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Star Goes Supernova; Skinny Model Backlash; Serial Killer Justice?
Aired September 26, 2006 - 19:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: Paris Hilton charged with a crime.
I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: And "Six Feet Under`s" Michael C. Hall on his fascinating new role as a forensics expert who moonlights as a serial killer.
I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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HAMMER (voice over): On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Star Jones Reynolds versus the tabloids. The former co-host of "The View" is seeing stars. The tabloids say her husband is gay and their marriage is a sham.
Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has the story of how the whole mess could end up in court.
Janet Jackson speaks.
Tonight, Janet tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT about the weight she gained, why she was her heaviest ever, how she took it off, and what she thought of all the attention that got downright nasty.
JANET JACKSON, SINGER: The paparazzi were following me every single day. They were parked outside my place.
HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s special series, "Hollywood Weight Watch," continues with Janet Jackson and the interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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HAMMER: Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York City.
ANDERSON: Hi, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
HAMMER: Well, Star Jones Reynolds took on Barbara Walters and ABC. We all know how that ended up. And now she is unleashing a whole new round of Star wars.
ANDERSON: Yes, A.J., you can call this one "Star Wars: The Tabloid Menace." Star Jones Reynolds is on the war path over a "National Enquirer" report that her husband is gay and wants out of their marriage.
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STAR JONES REYNOLDS, "THE VIEW": I will not be returning as co-host next year.
ANDERSON (voice over): Just a few months after waging a P.R. war with Barbara Walters and ABC over her departure from "The View," Star Jones Reynolds is going after another media target, "The National Enquirer." And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you this time it`s personal.
HARVEY LEVIN, TMZ.COM: Star Jones is outraged. She says that it is wrong for anyone to suggest she is living a lie.
ANDERSON: The target of these latest Star wars is this "National Enquirer" article, the provocative title, "Star Jones` Husband Walks Out. He`s With a Man."
"The Enquirer`s" two-page spread claims Star`s husband of two years, Al Reynolds, has moved in with a male friend and wants to divorce Star. And the article rehashes years of tabloid rumors that Al Reynolds is gay, rumors that the couple have repeatedly denied.
LEVIN: Star`s lawyer told me yesterday that she is emotional and stressed out over this.
ANDERSON: TMZ.com`s Harvey Levin says Star is fighting those rumors with a politically correct zeal that almost reminds you of that famous "Seinfeld" episode.
JERRY SEINFELD, ACTOR, "SEINFELD": We`re not gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
LEVIN: Star Jones is saying it`s just baloney, that he has not left the apartment, that she is happily married, that he is not gay, not that there is anything wrong with it.
ANDERSON: But now Star is getting her attorneys involved. TMZ.com obtained this letter Star Jones Reynolds and Al Reynolds` attorney sent to "The Enquirer." About the gay rumors, it says, while the couple believes "there is nothing wrong with being gay," Al Reynolds is not.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE, "SEINFELD": Not that there is anything wrong with that!
ANDERSON: How Seinfeldian.
The letter goes on to threaten "The Enquirer" with legal action if it doesn`t run a full page retraction.
LEVIN: They are saying, not only is it a lie, but it is flat-out defamation.
ANDERSON: In a statement to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Star`s publicist says, "Mr. and Mrs. Reynolds have tried to handle these vicious lies and attempts at character assassination with quiet dignity for far too long. Now they will pursue immediate legal action against anyone who makes false statements about their family.
Earlier this year on "LARRY KING LIVE," Star Jones Reynolds talked about rumors involving her husband.
LARRY KING, HOST, "LARRY KING LIVE": You have no idea how it started?
REYNOLDS: I think probably people were just being mean. And in all honesty, for me to give it any energy is to give it credibility.
ANDERSON: But Star is giving this "National Enquirer" article lots of energy, and some say that`s not good.
JUDY KURIANSKY, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: What Star Jones should really feel is that, as long as they spell my name right, as the phrase goes.
ANDERSON: Psychologist Judy Kuriansky tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that Star should be laughing this whole thing off and that maybe Star`s bad year, which included her getting fired from "The View," may be motivating this anti-"Enquirer" crusade.
KURIANSKY: If Star Jones were not truly upset about her life, about the way things have gone, about her image, about what people have said about her, then she would be able to handle that and just say, well, it`s not true, instead of really getting upset and taking it to the limit, taking legal action.
ANDERSON: But it appears Star is taking this dispute to the limit, and that is her right. After all, as they say on "Seinfeld"...
SEINFELD: Not that there`s anything wrong with it!
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ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT contacted "The National Enquirer" to get its side of the Star story. They paper told us, "We`re not going to comment at this time."
And now we want to hear from you about it. It is our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Question of the Day."
Celebrity tabloids, do you care if they get the facts right?
Go to cnn.com/showbiztonight. Send us an e-mail, showbiztonight@cnn.com.
HAMMER: Well, all this week SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is bringing you the stories of celebrities` personal struggles with weight and the battle to stay thin. It is our special series, "The Hollywood Weight Watch." But tonight, Milan says, don`t mess with our models.
The city, which is hosting its spring-summer 2007 fashion shows this week, says it`s not interested in banning super-skinny model from its runways. A couple of weeks back, Madrid, Spain, shocked the fashion world by kicking models who were too skinny off the catwalk for its fashion shows.
We caught up with designer Isaac Mizrahi at the opening night of the Metropolitan Opera in New York City. He loves the idea and he wants Hollywood to pay attention.
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ISAAC MIZRAHI, DESIGNER: Oh, I`m so excited about that. It`s about time, don`t you think, someone said something about that?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Totally.
MIZRAHI: Totally. I hope that is heard in Hollywood. I hope that a lot of those girls listen. You know? It`s a really hard thing to address, isn`t it, like when someone is too skinny, because they think they don`t hear it?
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HAMMER: Other places like London, India and Israel are also thinking about similar bans because it gives off an unhealthy image of women. And Isaac Mizrahi is certainly not alone. More and more high-profile celebrities are speaking out about the dangers of too thin being too in.
Joining me now in New York, former Victoria`s Secret model and host of "Cover Shot" on TLC, Frederique Van Der Wal.
Nice to have you back here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
FREDERIQUE VAN DER WAL, FMR. VICTORIA`S SECRET MODEL: Thank you.
HAMMER: So, the last time you were here, you were very, very explicit about how you felt about this trend of super skinny being so in. And now, here you are, front page of "USA Today," talking about the shock that you experienced when you were at Fashion Week.
It really is a dangerous message to young girls, isn`t it?
VAN DER WAL: It is a terrible message and it`s not necessary. Designers need to have a sort of uniform group of models come out with their clothes, but it doesn`t need to be a 0 -- you know, size 0. It can be, as in some places, they say, OK, it has to be 125 pounds, which, you know, could be a size 4.
I think that, overall, not only for designers, but out there, we have to embrace all kinds of women. I mean, it`s really gone -- you know, if you start with the mo models, which in some cases with designer, they use girls of 14, 15, 16. So some of these girls are naturally thin.
HAMMER: That`s the way they are.
VAN DER WAL: That`s -- and they haven`t reached puberty yet. So when that happens, then probably their legs look a little bit different. But there is a trend this year that -- I looked at a couple of shows and I went like, "Oh, they went too far, the legs are very, very bony."
HAMMER: And clearly they didn`t get that way any natural way.
VAN DER WAL: No.
HAMMER: And it certainly is an unrealistic portrayal. Yes, maybe the clothes hang better. I don`t know. That was the theory that was being floated around a little bit. But we`re hearing some in the industry finally speaking out. We heard Isaac Mizrahi a few moments ago, high profile individuals such as yourself also speaking out.
So, are you thinking to yourself, wow, it`s about time we`re talking about this?
VAN DER WAL: It is about time. And it`s great that we can change something.
Like, if a designer says, this is the way I`m going to do it, like Isaac, like Neutrogena or Dove, using different kinds of women, and not different, voluptuous, you can use thin, you can -- but use different kinds of women, interesting women, different kinds of women. It`s a great message to send out.
Let`s embrace all kinds of women. It doesn`t have to be this ultra-thin look. You can still show the clothes as well on a size -- whatever it has to be.
HAMMER: The ban in Spain on the super-skinny models on that runway...
VAN DER WAL: Yes, I know.
HAMMER: ... it`s certainly caught a lot of people`s attention. We`ve been talking about it ever since it happened.
I`m curious, because we`ve been hearing, you know, talk on both sides of the issue. You know, it`s, "Don`t discriminate against the models," or, "Yeah, nice going."
You were there at the fashion shows. You were hanging out backstage. What were the models saying? Because certainly they have to have been talking about it.
VAN DER WAL: Well, I think it`s very dangerous because with the models they are very young still. They are told by a designer, you know, if they want to be in a certain show, you have to be this kind of weight or this kind -- you have to fit these clothes. So for the girls, it`s really -- they are put in a tough position.
I think that a lot of girls would love to say that there is less sort of pressure around the fashion show and that the size goes up, because I do think a big part of the girls were unnaturally thin. So...
HAMMER: So did you get the sense from speaking with them that some of them are seeing this as, hey, wait a second, maybe I can start eating again, or maybe I cannot, you know, concentrate so much and I don`t have to worry about looking like a stick?
VAN DER WAL: I think that the consensus is getting there, that they realize that -- that there is less -- going to be less pressure on them. But I think the funny thing is, because they are 16, 17, and very young, it`s really what is told to them at this point.
HAMMER: Sure.
VAN DER WAL: And it`s the agents, it`s the designers who make kind of the decisions. And they -- you know, for them to get to the next step, to go and work for a big ad campaign or an advertising job, you know, they have to be in those shows.
HAMMER: Well, hopefully they will pay attention to role models like you and they will figure it out for themselves at the same time.
Frederique, always good to see you.
VAN DER WAL: Nice to see you.
HAMMER: And you can catch Frederique`s show, "Cover Shot." It airs Fridays on TLC.
ANDERSON: We`ve got a whole lot more coming your way on the "Hollywood Weight Watch" all this week.
Tomorrow we`ll hear Kate Winslet`s candid comments about the pressures to fit a certain beauty mold as a movie star.
And Thursday, Jennifer Love Hewitt talks bout how even at a size 2, she feels the pressure to be thin in Hollywood.
Our special series, "Hollywood Weight Watch," continues all this week on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
HAMMER: Well, Paris Hilton has been charged with a crime. We have the story coming up next on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
We`ll also have this...
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JACKSON: Some people have seen me both ways, but never -- never 60 pounds.
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ANDERSON: Janet Jackson tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT what it was like to gain and lose 60 pounds, all under the watchful eye of the paparazzi.
Janet Jackson coming up as our special series "Hollywood Weight Watch" continues.
HAMMER: Plus, is George Clooney planning on running for president? We`re going to tell you what he said about that coming up.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT for Tuesday night. This is TV`s most provocative entertainment news show.
I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
And it`s time now for a story that made us say, "That`s ridiculous!"
UNIDENTIFIED GROUP: "That`s ridiculous!"
HAMMER: You guys are so good.
Now, this is about one Mr. Jack Kneel (ph). Jack bought a pink convertible on eBay for $17,000. So far, you may be thinking to yourself, not so ridiculous. But listen to this. It turns out that Jack is three years old.
His mom told the BBC that Jack apparently is a whiz on the computer and he just pressed all the right buttons to buy the car using eBay`s "buy it now" feature, which we all know can be a dangerous feature of that service. Luckily, the seller was amused by the situation, didn`t force little Jack to cough up the cash.
But we still say, a 3-year-old buying a car? Now, "That`s ridiculous!"
ANDERSON: Paris Hilton has been charged with a crime. The crime? Driving under the influence.
The charges are based on her arrest earlier this month in Hollywood. Prosecutors say Hilton`s blood alcohol level was .08. That`s the lowest that warrants an arrest.
Hours after her arrest, Hilton hold an L.A. radio station that she was on her way to get a burger after a long day taping her music video and that she only had one margarita at a charity event.
If Hilton is convicted, she could be sentenced to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. The minimum penalty is a fine, probation and an alcohol rehab program.
By the way, the LAPD says they don`t plan to release her mugshot.
HAMMER: You could say death becomes him. As an undertaker in the HBO hit "Six Feet Under," Michael C. Hall was busy burying dead people. Well, in his new show, "Dexter," Michael`s busy killing people.
But, wait, it`s a little more complicated than that. He`s a cop, and his professional job gives him the perfect cover for his true identity, as a serial killer.
The man who plays "Dexter," Michael C. Hall, joining me in New York.
It`s a pleasure to meet you.
MICHAEL C. HALL, ACTOR: Likewise.
HAMMER: Good to have you here.
HALL: Thank you.
HAMMER: I know a lot of actors research the roles that they do. I`m sure before you played in "Six Feet Under," you stopped by a funeral home or two...
HALL: Sure.
HAMMER: ... to see how things worked out.
HALL: Yes.
HAMMER: If people play a cop, they hang out with the cops, lawyers same thing.
HALL: Right.
HAMMER: So I`m sure you spent some time with cops, but then what about the serial killer part, Michael? I mean, did you hang out with a couple in the course...
HALL: I didn`t. I read some interviews, I read some books by some FBI profilers, but ultimately that`s the point in the part where you`ve got to take an imaginative leap. I mean, I don`t think it would stand up in court, "I killed him, Your Honor, but it was for research."
HAMMER: Yes.
HALL: That`s not going to fly.
HAMMER: Not really going to work.
HALL: So I`ve just got to imagine that part of it.
HAMMER: And the interesting thing about this guy, as I mentioned, he`s a cop. But he`s...
HALL: Well, he`s actually -- he`s a civilian working with the police department in the forensics department.
HAMMER: OK. Working -- working with blood and...
HALL: Yes, a blood splatter analyst.
HAMMER: A blood splatter analyst.
HALL: Yes.
HAMMER: Not something that you can say easily or you hear all the time.
HALL: Right. It`s hard.
HAMMER: But he feels, in terms of the killings that he does, that he is justified because he is basically killing people who have escaped justice, a drunk driver, perhaps, or another serial killer.
HALL: Right. Ultimately, he is killing killers. You could argue that he is preventing more deaths than he`s causing.
HAMMER: OK. You could argue that. It`s -- I don`t know if it would stand up in court.
HALL: No. Again...
HAMMER: But, here`s the point, he is also a very likeable guy. He brings donuts to the folks at work.
HALL: Sure.
HAMMER: You know, people like who this guy is. So it`s going to be a struggle, I think, for some viewers...
HALL: Right.
HAMMER: ... when they realize, man, I really like this guy, but he`s a terrible human being.
HALL: Right. Well, I think that`s what the show aspires to do, create that sort of sense of moral ambiguity in an audience member that this guy is doing things that, of course, are reprehensible on paper, and yet, I like him, I even think some of the people he is killing in fact deserve it. And so, yes, it operates in a pretty gray area.
HAMMER: Yes, because that`s going to make people question their own morals. It`s like, wait a second. That`s not really good what he`s doing.
HALL: Yes.
HAMMER: He seems to be justifying it.
HALL: Just stirring that pot.
HAMMER: It`s another show that just follows in a genre that has just been one of the most successful ever, the crime and justice genre, "CSI"...
HALL: Right.
HAMMER: ... of course, and some of the comparison are easy. It takes place in Miami.
HALL: Right.
HAMMER: That`s the number one franchise on TV. We love the crime drama. We love blood. We love gore.
Why do we have this fascination, do you think?
HALL: Well, I don`t know. I mean, as far as "Dexter" goes, I think Dexter is a guy who has a pretty formidable shadow side and is taking unique responsibility for that, trying to channel his compulsion into something arguably positive. But I think people are drawn to things that shine a light on that shadow side of humanity and human life. And this certainly does that, too.
HAMMER: Well, of course the show that put you on the map and made you famous, "Six Feet Under"...
HALL: Right.
HAMMER: ... where you played David Fisher. I am a huge fan of that show. I am not ashamed to admit to any of you guys in this room, I wept openly, as did many people...
HALL: Sure, as you should have.
HAMMER: ... at that finale, which was just so incredible.
I`m sure walking away from that show was difficult, but what -- what is the best thing about it that you walk away with?
HALL: Well, you know, I mean, there are so many great memories. And I maintain a relationship with a lot of those people. But I think the thing I`m most thankful for is the way it ended and the fact that Alan Ball ended it on his own terms, didn`t feel obliged to squeeze every bit of revenue he could from it, and said it`s time for the story to end and we ended it.
And the fact that we all got to die really was significant. I think it helped us move on.
HAMMER: You can`t ask for a bigger...
HALL: And it helped us -- yes, like, OK.
HAMMER: Can`t ask for bigger closure than that.
HALL: That`s it.
HAMMER: My tears were real.
Mike C. Hall, it`s a pleasure to have you here. I appreciate you joining us.
HALL: Yes.
HAMMER: The show is called "Dexter." It premieres this Sunday on Showtime.
ANDERSON: George Clooney is laughing off the suggestion that he should run for president. Clooney attended an event with Don Cheadle, and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed legislation aimed at helping stop the violence in the Darfur region of Sudan. A reporter asked Clooney about the possibly of him running for office.
Take a look.
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GEORGE CLOONEY, ACTOR: First of all, believe me, you don`t want me in politics. But secondly, you know, again, these are things -- we`re really trying to focus on this. And I do appreciate the question and think it`s funny. But...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE).
CLOONEY: Oh, I think they`re probably kidding. But...
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ANDERSON: Now, the reporters just wouldn`t let it go. Another one asked again, later, when he was going to put his name out there for the voters. And Clooney simply said, "Believe me, that`s a bad idea."
HAMMER: A reminder that SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is on seven nights a week. That`s right, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show has arrived on your weekends. Just make sure you tune in to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Saturday and Sunday, and each and every night on at 11:00 p.m. Eastern, 8:00 Pacific.
ANDERSON: Well, fans of "The View" love to listen to Joy Behar`s stories, but will kids like them, too? Joy Behar is here to tell us about her new children`s book. That`s coming up.
HAMMER: Plus, Steve Irwin`s widow sits down for an interview with Barbara Walters. We will hear from Ms. Walters herself. That`s coming up next on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
We`ll also have this...
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JACKSON: And the stupid thing about it, the paparazzi were following me every single day.
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ANDERSON: Janet Jackson tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT what it was like to gain and lose 60 pounds while the paparazzi recorded her every move. Janet Jackson coming up as our special series "Hollywood Weight Watch" continues.
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HAMMER: Tomorrow, I`m one-on-one with Russell Crowe. He has a lot to say about the press and how they reacted to a little stone-throwing scandal. Russell Crowe on that and his new movie tomorrow in the interview you will see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Steve Irwin`s widow says she is coping with her husband`s death one minute at a time. Terry Irwin sat down for an interview with Barbara Walters that airs tomorrow night. It`s her first interview since her husband died after a stingray pierced his heart on September 4th.
She says despite the heartache she`s going through now, she still considers herself blessed.
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TERRY IRWIN, STEVE IRWIN`S WIDOW: If I had to do it all over again, even knowing how it ended, I would in a minute.
BARBARA WALTERS, ABC: You`ve lost him and you feel you were blessed?
IRWIN: I feel so blessed. I had the best 14 years, two beautiful children, and just a romance like I didn`t think existed anymore.
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ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT sat down with Walters today and she told us more about how Terry and the Irwins` two children are doing.
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WALTERS: Terry and the children live at the zoo which the Irwin family founded. So they are surrounded by animals that they love. The children understand because they have grown up with animals that there is birth and there is death.
Terry is amazing. At one point she is so courageous and charming, especially when she talks about their love affair, how they met, and the next moment she is sobbing. She says she takes it one day at a time.
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ANDERSON: You can see Walters` interview with Terry Irwin tomorrow night on a special edition of "20/20."
HAMMER: The lovely Joy Behar has a new gig. Her very first children`s book is out. Let`s just say it`s got a very unusual name.
Joy is going to join me in just a few minutes to tell us all about it.
We`re also going to have this...
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JACKSON: Some people have seen me both ways, but never -- never 60 pounds.
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ANDERSON: Janet Jackson tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT what it was like to gain and lose 60 pounds all under the watchful eye of the paparazzi. She got a lot of attention for it.
Janet Jackson coming up as our special series, "Hollywood Weight Watch" continues.
HAMMER: Plus, Ashlee Simpson takes the stage in London. How did her debut in the musical "Chicago" turn out?
We`re going to tell you coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT for Tuesday night.
We`re coming right back.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. This is TV`s provocative entertainment news show.
HAMMER: We told you earlier: Paris Hilton arrested earlier today on suspicion of DUI.
Brooke, is it just me, or if you`ve been working all day without a bite to eat and you go off to a charity event, do you maybe not slam back a margarita before hopping in your car? Or maybe have somebody else drive or get a driver, especially when you`re in the public eye, like Paris Hilton?
ANDERSON: I know, A.J. I`m sure it`s a decision that she regrets. Fortunately, nobody was hurt.
HAMMER: Well all of that aside, coming up: What I hope may be the career ender for Paris, the career that I`m still trying to figure out - a straight-to-DVD movie. And I`ve got a clip that just could end it all for her, I`m thinking. It`s coming up in a few minutes.
ANDERSON: It`s coming up in just a few minutes, A.J.
Also, we`re talking about celebrity moms, A.J. It seems these days Hollywood actresses and celebrities, right after they have their baby, they`re immediately back down to their fighting weight.
HAMMER: How do they do it?
ANDERSON: So how do they do it? We`re going to find out how star moms like Gwyneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie, Gwen Stefani, how they slim down so quickly. Coming up.
HAMMER: All right, Brooke.
But first tonight, some amazing video. It is absolutely shocking. Take a look at this: it`s a San Diego, California, reporter getting attacked - and as you see, all caught on tape. John Madis (ph) of XE TV was investigating a suspected real estate scam, when as you see, he was brutally attacked by a woman and her husband. First the woman goes nuts, hitting the reporter with a water bottle, splashing water on the camera. And then her husband drives up - he goes nuts, beating Madis up as well, scratching his face. In fact, he even threatened to get a gun.
As you might suspect, both of them were arrested and booked for battery. It is just stunning to see. They are out on bail.
ANDERSON: Imagine now being kept in a small, dark, scary basement with no contact with the outside world for eight years. Sounds like a horrifying movie script, but it was actually a terrifying nightmare for one girl. And now she`s reached deep down to share her frightening story on camera.
Here`s CNN`s Matthew Chance for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For eight long years she was a terrified hostage. Aged just 10, abducted by a suspected pedophile as she walked to school.
NATASCHA KAMPUSCH, KIDNAP SURVIVOR (through translator): He grabbed me. I tried to scream, but no sound came out. Yes, I was in desperation and very angry. I was upset with myself that I did not change the side of the street and that I did not go to school with my mother in her car. That was awful.
CHANCE: Now a young woman of 18, this is the first time Natascha Kampusch has spoken on camera since her dramatic escape last month, and the suicide of Wolfgang Priklopil soon after, the man who held her captive.
KAMPUSCH (through translator): I was fully aware that my escape would also be his death sentence because he always threatened me with suicide.
CHANCE: This was a kidnapping that shocked Austria. In 1998, police had searched the country, but found no trace of Natascha. All along, she had been held in this tiny underground cell not 10 miles from her home. It had a bed and a toilet and a lot of books, but little else.
KAMPUSCH (through translator): It felt very claustrophobic in that small room. I threw water bottles against the walls or banged against them with my fists so that maybe someone could hear me. I don`t know. It was harrowing, and if he had not taken me up into the house at some point to have a bit more space to move, I think I might have gone crazy.
CHANCE: How long was it, she is asked, before he took you up to the house? Was it years? "No, after a half a year," she said. "Then I was allowed up to wash and to take a bath in the bathroom."
Over the years Priklopil occasionally took Natascha out of the house, into shops, even on a skiing trip. But all the time, Natascha says she was closely watched.
KAMPUSCH (through translator): He was very careful. He barely left my side. He would show signs of panic every time I was more than three centimeters away from him. He always wanted me to walk in front of him and not behind him so he could keep me in view. I couldn`t approach anyone because he threatened to harm them if I spoke with them. He would kill or get rid of them.
CHANCE: And she was so terrified she couldn`t even cry for help, she says.
KAMPUSCH (through translator): For example, the nice ladies in the home improvement stores, they would then ask, Can I help you? And then I would just stand there, completely intimidated and in panic. My heart pounding with problems in my circulation, barely being able to move. I then just had to stand by helplessly while he got rid of the salespeople.
CHANCE: The exact nature of this relationship remains unclear, though police believe there was sexual contact. Natascha is unwilling to discuss this. It`s the future she wants to talk about.
KAMPUSCH (through translator): I want to travel. For instance, go on a cruise with my family. Also, if I pass my Austrian high school graduation diploma, to go on a trip after completion of secondary school. But, of course, not with alcohol and partying, but a nice one. Not a summer splash or an all-inclusive, but, rather, something nice.
CHANCE: Something to make her life feel normal again, now her eight-year nightmare has come to an end.
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ANDERSON: What a brave, brave girl. That was CNN`s Matthew Chance.
Natascha says her since escape, she`s enjoying eating ice cream. And she also says it`s nice to smile at people without being recognized.
HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has your coast-to-coast celeb reaction to the frenzy over Suri Cruise pictures, now available at a newsstand near you. After five months of waiting, and even rumors like, Is there really a baby, it`s a huge spread in the October issue of "Vanity Fair" magazine. We`re talking about 22 pages of Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes and their lovely little girl.
John Travolta`s wife, Kelly Preston, is at a press conference - a press event for her new movie "Broken Bridges." That`s where we caught up with her when she told us that she`s thrilled for her friends and fellow scientologists.
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KELLY PRESTON, ACTRESS: She`s so cute. She looks so much like the two of them, and they look so happy. They`re beautiful photographs. Just gorgeous. And I`m sure a lot of people feel so foolish with all this hoopla, you know, that`s gone on. But they waited for the perfect time, and - and I`m so happy for them.
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HAMMER: Some really funny stuff though coming from talk show host Dick Cavett. I had the chance to sit down with Mr. Cavett, and of course he has interviewed some of the biggest stars over the years. And I asked him if he actually even cared about all the fuss over Baby Suri, and about Tom Cruise dissing prescription drugs that are used to treat depression.
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HAMMER: There`s been just a little bit of buzz recently surrounding the pictures of Tom and Katie`s baby, Suri. What do you make of all that?
DICK CAVETT, TALK SHOW HOST: Cruise, is it?
HAMMER: Yes.
CAVETT: Oh. Film actor.
HAMMER: You might know him from such films as "Mission: Impossible" and "War of the Worlds."
CAVETT: I have never disagreed with Katie Couric on anything in my life, except when she said the other night, the pictures that everybody`s waiting to see. I could go well over three more days without seeing Tom Cruise`s homunculus.
HAMMER: Well, you must have - you know, having - having had bouts with depression - you`ve been very public about it in the past.
CAVETT: Right.
HAMMER: It must have struck you very personally to hear all that he was saying.
CAVETT: Yes. It - it was - it was idiotic of him, and also dangerous. Because there are plenty of people waiting to hear, Don`t take your drugs. There`s a better way - herbal medicine, meditation. All those things have their thing to recommend them. But if the plain, blunt fact that your serotonin level is out of whack, no number of scientologists are going to help.
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HAMMER: By the way, I looked homunculus up in the dictionary. And it means "little person."
Cavett also there, referring to Katie Couric showing those Suri pictures during the very first "CBS Evening News" broadcast earlier this week.
Cavett happens to be hosting a new episode of "The Dick Cavett Show" tonight with legendary funnyman, producer Mel Brooks. And you can also pick up a copy of his new DVD. It`s "Hollywood Greats," featuring some of his best interviews ever. Those are always great to see, and that will be available next Tuesday.
ANDERSON: Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Garner, Brooke Shields, mom who - moms who look great after losing the baby weight. So how do they do it? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT spills their secrets, coming up next.
HAMMER: And oh, not a good day for Paris Hilton: a stunning drunk- driving arrest and a stunningly bad new movie. And I mean bad. We`ve got your first look - may want to make it your last. That`s also coming up.
Plus we`ve got this:
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RON PRICE, DALLAS SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER: It`s not a cultural thing to walk around with your underwear displayed. It`s not even a social problem. It`s a mental problem.
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ANDERSON: Pull your pants up, or someone is going to come down hard on you. Why saggy bottoms are becoming a top concern. "That`s Ridiculous!" and that`s next.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
And it`s time now for another story that made us say, "That`s Ridiculous!"
Remember a couple years back when stars like Britney Spears started wearing their pants so low you could see their underwear? And in some cases, with some stars, it was really more than we wanted to see?
Well, watch out, guys. Because if one official gets his way, if you pull your pants down, you`ll be pulling out your wallet.
Here`s CNN - CNN`s Ed Lavandera for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`ve been wearing my pants right here.
ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It`s hard out here for a guy wearing baggy pants. Some people just don`t get the fashion statement.
(on camera): Where are they right now?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All the way like this.
LAVANDERA: That`s your thighs.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
LAVANDERA: Where`s your waist?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Waist is up here.
LAVANDERA: How do you walk?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just like this.
LAVANDERA: Slowly?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
LAVANDERA (voice-over): Out here wearing them low is called saggin`. To Keith T. (ph), it represents where he came from.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s in our blood. Our daddies do it, grandpas, all of them do it.
LAVANDERA (on camera): Is it comfortable?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, that`s why we do it, it`s comfortable! We don`t want no tight clothes all up here.
LAVANDERA (voice-over): But this man says pull them up or pay up. Dallas school board member Ron Price wants people who wear their pants so low that you can see their underwear to get a ticket for public lewdness.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Man, you got belt on!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It don`t work.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right, man.
LAVANDERA: He`s asking the Dallas City Council to make it happen. To him, it`s about respect.
PRICE: It`s not a cultural thing to walk around with your underwear displayed. It`s not even a social problem. It`s a mental problem.
LAVANDERA (on camera): For now, the Dallas City Council is only looking into the idea. Almost half the council members have said the ban is worth considering, but not all are thrilled by it. Some even said the last thing they want to see is a bunch of street cops turned into the fashion police.
(voice-over): Most legal experts agree, legislating taste and fashion has been constitutionally dissed. That`s why some people can dress like this at work. So Keith T says good luck giving him a ticket.
(on camera): Do you think you`re going to get a ticket for showing off your underwear?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Man, we shouldn`t get no ticket, man. If they give me a ticket, man, really, I`m just going to rip it up. To tell you the truth, I`m just going to rip it up and throw it away.
LAVANDERA (voice-over): But if Dallas does baggy pants, the question then becomes, How high is too high? Remember Steve Urkel?
JALEEL WHITE, ACTOR: All you have to hitch up your pants, bend your knees and stick out your pelvis. I`m telling you, baby, it`s better than Elvis.
LAVANDERA: Not cool.
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HAMMER: That was CNN`s Ed Lavandera for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Good to see the important things are being focused on.
We want to bag a law banning baggy pants here at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. So we say, "That`s Ridiculous!"
ANDERSON: OK, so today, so not hot for Paris Hilton. As we told you earlier, the wannabe singing star was arrested in California for alleged drunk driving. Her publicist insists Paris just had one drink, and had been working nonstop on a music video for her new album, and that she didn`t even have anything to eat.
Well, Paris is never one to shy away from the camera, as we all know - especially when she needs to plug something. And with his potentially serious arrest - we would never suggest the timing here has - was more than a coincidence - but she`s also got a direct-to-DVD movie out about to come out. It`s called "Bottoms Up." Maybe it should be called "Throw Up," because it`s just that bad.
Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ew. Yuck. I`d never date an extra.
PARIS HILTON, ENTERTAINER: Come on. What if he was a nice guy?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If he was nice, uh, maybe. But he`d have to have a nice car, and no body hair.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My grandfather has a nice car and no body hair.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, I know.
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HILTON: You guys are terrible.
Well, I had a guy I like to see (INAUDIBLE) he`s buying lunch.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, that is so sweet.
HILTON: (INAUDIBLE) therapist is totally at my (AUDIO GAP). Like, I don`t have better things to do.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bye.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bye.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Love you. Mean it.
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ANDERSON: Hate it, we mean it.
Now, if you really must know, "Bottoms Up" is out next week. I`m sure A.J. will be first in line to see that one. Just kidding.
So now that we`ve finally seen Baby Suri Cruise, and all those other recently born beautiful Hollywood babies - but aren`t they all beautiful - you just got to ask, How do Hollywood moms like Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Garner and Brooke Shields lose the weight they gained while pregnant so quickly? The secrets are revealed in the new issue of "People" magazine, hitting newsstands.
And with us tonight here in Hollywood, "People" magazine`s Julie Jordan.
Welcome, Julie. Always good to see you.
JULIE JORDAN, "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE: Hi, Brooke.
ANDERSON: Hi, there.
Let`s talk Angelina Jolie first.
JORDAN: Right.
ANDERSON: It`s been almost four months after the birth of Baby Shiloh. And she looks fantastic.
JORDAN: (INAUDIBLE)
ANDERSON: What`s she doing?
JORDAN: Well, she says running around Maddox and - running around after Maddox and Zahara first of all, so that keeps her really busy. Ultimately, you know, (INAUDIBLE) occasional Pilates class as well. But she`s trying to eat better. She doesn`t deprive herself.
But, you know, her mom`s a former model. So she knows she`s got genetics on her side. But she says it`s about every woman feeling good about themselves, and she for one looks amazing.
ANDERSON: She does look amazing.
Also, Gwyneth Paltrow. Now she gained 40 pounds with her son Moses. She`s not losing this by any traditional methods, is she?
JORDAN: No. She`s kind of doing something a little different, just to lose the last couple of months. She`s cleansing sort of. We`re talking colonics, acupuncture and gluten-free diets. So.
ANDERSON: Ooh.
JORDAN: But it`s working for her, you know? And she already looks amazing. So.
ANDERSON: It - it sounds time consuming, complicated, expensive.
JORDAN: But again, all about what works for her and what she feels good about.
ANDERSON: That`s right.
All right. Let`s talk about Jennifer Garner. She and her husband, Ben Affleck, had beautiful baby Violet.
JORDAN: Right.
ANDERSON: Now she`s not back at work yet. She looks really great though.
JORDAN: Sure. Well, and I think she`s one of those women that we can relate to, because she wanted it to be about Violet at first, not about losing the weight really fast. So she did it moderately - walking, building in slowly with strength training. And then eventually working out four or five days a week. But now she`s back in bikini shape. So she looks really good.
ANDERSON: They do it so quickly! It just blows my mind!
JORDAN: I know. It`s infuriating.
ANDERSON: I know. It`s maddening.
OK. Brooke Shields, she`s the mother of two. She`s got Ronan - and Ronan is 3. And then little Greer.
JORDAN: Right.
ANDERSON: You know, mom of two, and she doesn`t even look like she`s had one baby yet.
JORDAN: No, of course not.
ANDERSON: How does she do it?
JORDAN: Well, I - she`s kind of, like, you know, will take Greer and put her in the baby bjorn (ph) to ask extra weight to, like, walk. So she`s kind of incorporating the kids into her workout.
ANDERSON: Weightlifting with the babies.
JORDAN: Exactly, you know? Doing push-ups with them.
So she says she knows that, you know, her body doesn`t respond the way it used to before she was pregnant. But she`s kind of working with it and going with it.
ANDERSON: Also a former model, so.
JORDAN: You know, it never hurts.
ANDERSON: You know, she`s naturally blessed.
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ANDERSON: OK. Mariska Hargitay just won an Emmy for "Law and Order: SVU."
JORDAN: Right.
ANDERSON: She was at the Emmys. I spoke with her. She was just glowing. And she told you a really funny story about what she wanted to wear to the Emmys, didn`t she?
JORDAN: Right. Well she said that she was going to embrace her pooch (ph). She loved the fact that, you know, she still had her pooch. She had 10 pounds left to go. And she said she wanted to wear a sign with an arrow pointing to it, saying, August, her son, lived here. Which I thought, You know, go with it. And she does. She looked so stunning.
Her mom`s Jane Mansfield. So she.
ANDERSON: Right.
JORDAN: .always embraced her curves. And, you know, she just looks really good.
ANDERSON: Look at her. I don`t think she has 10 more pounds to go.
JORDAN: No. Well, and that`s the thing - she said she was in two dress sizes - she doesn`t look at the scale though. She refuses to get on the scale until she gets down to her, like, non-pregnancy clothes. But she`s already out of all the maternity wear. She`s in transition, but she`s back to being just where she was.
ANDERSON: She looks sensational.
Gwen Stefani - she delivered her son Kingston by C-section.
JORDAN: Right.
ANDERSON: You have to wait longer to begin exercising. But she looks fantastic as well.
JORDAN: Of course. She waited six weeks. Doctor gave the go ahead; she started running again. But she`s always eaten really well - fish, veggies, lots of water. That`s her routine. She`s back on that. And looks like she never had a kid.
ANDERSON: And Jolie Fisher, she gave birth to her second daughter, True Harlow. She gained - what? - 45 pounds.
JORDAN: Right.
ANDERSON: .with this pregnancy. But she`s doing it the old- fashioned way.
JORDAN: Sure. Diet and exercise, low carbs. You know, low fat. She`s working out five days a week on her elliptical machine. She says - still says she has 10 pounds to go. But you know, with the new sitcom, she`s going to be busy. It`s going to fall off. And she looks really great.
ANDERSON: It sounds like most of the people you talked to doing it the healthy way, which is.
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JORDAN: You know, and that`s what you hope for them. They`re - you know, they have nutritionists and trainers to help. But they`re doing it like we have to do it. It`s just hard work and exercise.
ANDERSON: Well, thanks for sharing it with us. Julie Jordan of "People" magazine, always good to see you.
And to read more of those celebrity mommy secrets to losing the baby weight, just pick up a copy of "People" magazine. It hits newsstands tomorrow.
HAMMER: Lindsay Lohan a victim of a $1 million robbery. Her publicist tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that Lindsay was robbed at London`s Heathrow Airport today. When she was leaving the airport, she noticed that her very expensive Ermez (ph) bag was missing from her suitcase trolley.
Well, TMZ.com says that the bag reportedly contained more than $1 million in jewelry, and her much-needed asthma medication. Scotland Yard says no suspects yet.
ANDERSON: Bob Dylan has done something he hasn`t done in 30 years: he`s got a No. 1 album. Dylan`s at the top of the Billboard 200 album charts with "Modern Times." It`s also highest-debuting release ever. But critics really love it, as does our executive producer Dave Levine (ph). He loves it. We hear him listening to it all the time, all day long in his office.
By the way, that`s Scarlet Johansson you see in this video. She tells us she never even met Dylan, but would like to have him over for dinner sometime.
HAMMER: A reminder now that SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is now on seven nights a week. TV`s most provocative entertainment news show has arrived on your weekends. So you can join us Monday through Friday and Saturday and Sunday at 11 p.m. Eastern, 8 Pacific.
ANDERSON: Last night, we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Question of the Day." Those long-awaited pictures of Tom and Katie`s Baby Suri finally out. But, "Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes: Have the media treated them fairly?" Huge response here, and it`s pretty much split down the middle: 51 percent of you say "yes"; but 49 percent of you say "no."
A couple other e-mails we received. Cheryl from Wisconsin writes, "It was their decision that the baby remain unseen. If they felt they were treated unfairly, they have the power to change that."
Eileen from Maryland says, "They brought this on themselves. Other celebs have babies, show pictures and don`t have to deal with all this drama."
Stay with us. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is coming right back.
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ANDERSON: A presidential controversy surrounding a new 9/11 miniseries called "The Path to 9/11." Former President Clinton furious at ABC. He says they`ve got some of the facts wrong.
So we`ve been asking you to vote on tonight`s SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Question of the Day": "9/11 Movies: Do they have an obligation to get the facts right?" Keep voting at cnn.com/showbiztonight. Write us: showbiztonight@cnn.com. We`re going to read some of your thoughts tomorrow.
HAMMER: And welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. This is the part of the program where we find out what is coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Let`s roll out that "SHOWBIZ Marquee," shall we?
And tomorrow, as we get into the weekend, Kim Basinger. She`s doing something that she`s never done before. We`re going to find out what. Plus, we got to ask her how she`s dealing with the nasty custody battle over her daughter with ex Alec Baldwin. It`s a revealing interview that you`ll only see on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with Kim Basinger, tomorrow.
Also, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT asks the shocking question: Was Superman murdered? Tomorrow, Clark Kent`s sidekick from the old Superman TV series, Jimmy Olsen, played by Jack Larson. Was Superman George Reeves` death really a suicide? A Hollywood mystery tomorrow on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
That is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thanks for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
ANDERSON: Have a great night, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
Glenn Beck is coming up next, right after the latest headlines from CNN Headline News.
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