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Kerry Comments an October Surprise?; Minnesota Senate Candidate Speaks Out

Aired November 1, 2006 - 19:00:00   ET


GLENN BECK, HOST: Coming up, the second John Kerry apology, possibly worse than the first. Once again, this guy shows us why he would have been a disaster as president with his elitist, boneheaded comments on Iraq.
And once again, always an enemy, Russia. I`ll show you their true colors tonight.


ANNOUNCER: Tonight`s episode of GLENN BECK is brought to you by the 2006 original Kings of Campaigns Comedy Tour, featuring the comedic stylings of John Kerry.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We should be all paraplegics with baseball bats. OK. I may have botched that one.


BECK: There are a lot of things to love about this country, but one of my favorite things is just the incredible diversity of opinion that you can find here.

You know, if you`ve seen this show even once, you know I`ve got pretty strong opinions, and I`m not really shy about sharing them. I don`t think any of us should be.

Here`s the point tonight. I have never, ever called anyone un- American for the honest questioning of their government or this war. It is -- it is not our right to do it. It is our responsibility as citizens.

But John Kerry is where I draw the line. I want you to take a look at the statements that he made as this thing started unraveling.


SEN. JOHN KERRY (D), MASSACHUSETTS: You know, education, if you make the most of it and you study hard and do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you -- you can do well. If you don`t, you get stuck in Iraq.

I apologize to no one for my criticism of the president and of his broken policy.


BECK: Well, now, the focus groups have met, I`m sure, and Kerry has actually issued an apology from him. It`s an apology for his apology. And this is what it says: "As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop. I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted."

Here`s an idea, Senator. You know, try to do what I tell my 2-year- old do. Stop with the qualifying and just say you`re sorry.

Yes, John Kerry is a veteran. You`d think he`d know better. He fought in Vietnam. But let`s remember in 1971 what the guy did. This is where we first really met the John Kerry that we know today. He gave testimony to Congress, not just as a veteran but as a veteran who opposed the continuation of the war. And what was he willing to do to stop it?

Well, he spun a little tale, of half-truths and lies that our soldiers did everything from rape to torture to murder and, remember, in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan. All of these allegations were never even close to substantiated. All John Kerry did was dishonor the courageous efforts of American soldiers.

And you know what? Something else that didn`t ever make sense to me, if you believed all of this stuff, that all of these atrocities were committed by your fellow veterans, why would you stand shoulder to shoulder with them and take the full value of the currency of your service with the murderers and rapists? Doesn`t make sense.

Now, fast-forward to a speech that happened on Monday. Kerry casually asserted that those who don`t get smart in college will get stuck in Iraq. You know what? Senator Kerry, I`m sorry, but your record is clear. Your statement is clear.

Even the people you surround yourself makes it clear. You`ve surrounded yourself by people like Dick Durbin, who has recently compared our troops in Iraq to Pol Pot. I`ve seen this movie before, senator.

And by the way, serving our country isn`t a burden for the dumb. It is an honor for those courageous enough to stand up for what they believe in. Stand up for something good and decent and noble.

And just so we`re perfectly clear, a study released in 2005 by the Heritage Foundation showed that the men and women in our military tend to be more educated than their peers in the general population.

Senator Kerry, you know, your comments, I really, truly believe will never be seen by people other than spitting on our forces from your ivory tower. The privileged class is the first to criticize our fighting men and women. You`re also the last to join them.

The reason that the draft was instituted in the first place was to ensure that those other than collegiate types joined the service. Believe it or not, in World War II college graduates joined in such overwhelming numbers that there was a concern here in America that the private sector would be denied the necessary doctors and engineers needed to keep the home fronts running.

So tonight, here`s what I know. John Kerry, even with your second apology -- maybe with your third it will change -- I believe you have forfeited your ability to ever, ever be president of the United States.

Now, the other thing that I know tonight is that this is proof positive of what I told you yesterday. This -- this is not a referendum on Iraq. All you need to do is listen to John Kerry or listen to Charlie Rangel, who just called Vice President Cheney an SOB, but not with just the letters. All you have to hear those things and you realize that the Democrats today are still bitterly fighting the Vietnam War, the 2000 election, the last election.

You know, and I thought the Republicans were the ones that were supposed to be so angry and mean-spirited. How come you never see that on TV?

Now, what I don`t know. The Democratic candidates who have come out so expediently today and said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, John Kerry doesn`t speak for all of us," would they say the same thing if it wasn`t the election next Tuesday? Are they going to be saying the same thing next Wednesday?

You know, I`m a conservative, and while the Democrats rarely have my support in the voting booth, they usually have my respect. So I can only hope that those, like Hillary Clinton, have spoken out today and are just as sincere about this as they are about getting elected.

Ryan Sager, he is a columnist for the "New York Post" and author of "The Elephant in the Room: Evangelicals, Libertarians and the Battle to Control the Republican Party".

Ryan, has John Kerry just delivered a gift-wrapped October surprise?

RYAN SAGER, AUTHOR, "THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM": Well, thanks for having me on, Glenn.

I think what we`ve seen here is John Kerry`s Al Gore`s beard moment. You know, when the Democratic -- losing Democratic presidential candidate just loses it in public and just goes off in the wilderness and acts crazy. And it`s not -- it`s not what the Democrats need a week before the election.

BECK: He`s kind of fallen off the radar today. Everybody cancelled everything with him. He`s suddenly busy doing other things.

I am -- I am increasingly shocked, and I shouldn`t be. I guess I just -- I`m an optimist. I try to be, at least. But I never want to think that the media is some big machine that is just churning out bull crap, but it is. I`m surprised at how I`m not hearing anywhere how angry the Democrats really are.

You`ve got Conyers. You have Pelosi. You have Al Gore screaming at the top of his lungs. You have Howard Dean. You have clearly an angry John Kerry. And yet they don`t have that wrapped. Why?

SAGER: Well, look, the party out of power is always going to be seen as the party that`s nuts. The Republicans got this in the 1990s. They were driven crazy by Clinton. And to a certain extent they were. And you`re seeing it since 2000 and 2004 with Democrats now.

You know, what this does is it possibly at least gives a chance for some of these Democratic candidates in local races to stand apart from John Kerry, to turn him into their Sister Souljah, you know, like with Bill Clinton, and say, "We don`t stand with this Northeastern effete liberal. We -- we support the troops."

BECK: You know, I was talking on my radio program today to Democrats, a lot of Democrats. And I said, you know, I really feel that there is a -- there is a core of people, the conservatives that feel disenfranchised from their party right now.

And I think there are a lot of Democrats, they don`t hate America. They don`t want us to lose, et cetera, et cetera, but they are so disenfranchised because it seems the party right now is being controlled by these -- these nut job leftists. Am I wrong?

SAGER: You`re not wrong. I mean, the Democrats are their own worst enemy, the Republicans` best friends. I mean, until they get their act together on national security, they`re going to have a real problem winning a national election, certainly a presidential election.

BECK: Do you -- do you see that the Republicans are -- this is going to be a shot in their arm to get out and vote? Because I think it kind of wakes people up when you go, "Oh, yes, you`re right. That is the party that we rejected a few years ago, because they don`t have any clue on national security. They don`t know what they`re talking about."

SAGER: You`re right. I mean, the best things the Democrats had going for them this year was that Kerry and Al Gore weren`t on the ballot. And so that was a wonderful thing for them.

I think the Republicans, though, the problems in the party go so much deeper than this and so much deeper in this election cycle. And I talk about this a lot in my book. You know, the big government conservatism we`re seeing from Bush is the betrayal of everything the party stands for. These aren`t voters who are going to easily be motivated by -- by a gaffe like this from John Kerry, I don`t think.

BECK: OK. Ryan, thank you very much.

Coming up tonight, the next installment in our weeklong series, "Vote American". The voters in Minnesota could determine which party takes control. We`re going to talk real issues with senatorial candidate Congressman Mark Kennedy.

Also, an incredible story out of Texas today. Hurricane Rita evacuees using FEMA trailers as meth labs. Unbelievable.

And actor John C. McGinley stops by to talk about his hit TV show "Scrubs" and something a little closer to his heart.


BECK: Welcome to our next installment of our "Vote American" series. It`s a daily segment where we try to find candidates who are humans, not just political robots. Been tough to do.

Here`s what I mean by this. If you`re a Republican and you`re standing by Mark Foley, well, then, you`re a robot. If you`re a Democrat and you honestly believe that John Kerry was just joking about military education, you know, that whole comment, well, then you`re the king of the robot people.

Figuring out where you stand when it comes to issues like that isn`t about politics. Honestly, it`s about common sense. And that`s not what people really talk about in Washington anymore. So much of Washington, the problems that we have there, they could be solved with common sense.

Immigration, you build the fence; you fine the companies. Taxes, we have one of the best economies of all time going on since the latest tax cuts. Why mess with it?

Iran, well, OK, I don`t have an idea with Iran. But you get the point.

I believe that we`re the same people. We want to fill Congress with people who care about issues. It doesn`t matter if they`re donkeys or elephants. Just care about the issues and want to solve them.

So today we feature a Senate race in Minnesota where Republican Mark Kennedy says he wants to replace angry words with bipartisan solutions. Like me, he also believes that the war in Iraq and our national security are two of the most important issues that we face today.


REP. MARK KENNEDY (R), MINNESOTA SENATORIAL CANDIDATE: None of us like war, and we`ve made some mistakes in Iraq. We`re facing an enemy that must be defeated. Leaving Iraq now will create a breeding ground for new attacks on America. That`s the harsh reality.

My opponent says the answer is diplomacy, but you can`t negotiate with people who want to kill you.


BECK: Joining me now is Congressman Mark Kennedy.

Mark, how -- how is it that people just don`t get that? You can`t negotiate with people who want to kill you!

KENNEDY: It`s amazing to me -- amazing to me why they don`t understand. When you`re dealing with folks like al Qaeda, like Iranian sponsored terrorist groups, you can`t negotiate with them. They`d just soon kill you than look at you.

BECK: Yes. Now you have an opponent, I know, that -- I don`t want to talk about the opponent. I want to talk about you. But she brings up a point that she says this is a civil war in Iraq and we should get out now.

I know you`re in Minnesota, but can you explain to the people in Minnesota that this is not a civil war, this is a holy war and who`s influencing all of it?

KENNEDY: Well, if you look at a lot of the troubles that are being stirred up by Iran, who`s funding, supplying, nurturing a lot of the sectarian violence, we need to make sure that we eliminate the militias. That`s got to be one of our near-term goals. And we need to further cut off the influence of Iran on Iraq.

They don`t want a democracy right next door that would encourage their people to push for freedom.

BECK: Right.

KENNEDY: That`s what this is all about right now.

BECK: So you are -- you`re doing, you know -- you`re doing what Santorum is doing. You`re speaking out the issues. You`re saying the truth. And nobody wants to hear this. Why is it that nobody wants to hear it? What is it -- what is it going to take for people to wake up and start listening to this stuff?

KENNEDY: Well, you know, it`s a grave concern because this is not about politics for me. It`s a matter of principal. We cannot allow Iraq to become a sanctuary for terrorists to regroup and attack America again. We can`t give them that oil revenue. We can`t strengthen Iran`s hand. That`s what would happen if we pulled back from Iraq.

BECK: So what is the percentage of people in Washington that, A, get it and, B, have a spine to do something about it? No. 1 question I get is from people who say, "Glenn, you`re talking about this stuff. How come I don`t hear this from other people in Washington?"

And there are -- I can count them on one hand, the people who are brave enough to say. Here`s what`s coming, guys, and it`s really, really bad. What`s the percentage that get it? And what`s the percentage that have a spine to stand up for it?

KENNEDY: Well, I think a large percentage get it. The question is who`s willing to speak up about it right before an election? But our job is to do what our constituents are asking us to do. And when I go over to Iraq, as I have each of the last three years, the soldiers plead with you; don`t let America lose its will.

It`s our responsibility to make sure folks understand the consequences of not prevailing and the fact that the soldiers in the field see the value of what they`re doing, and they see that we can prevail, we can establish a democracy in the heart of the Middle East that will greatly influence that region.

BECK: You were a -- you were a shoe-in when you -- I mean, when you first said, I`m going to take -- I`m going to try to get that Senate seat. You were a guy who was absolutely marked to win. But then you stand where you are, and you see your numbers go -- keep going down. Why do you do it?

KENNEDY: Well, this is important. This is beyond politics. This is doing what`s right. Because you know, what`s most important is when we`re sitting back in our rocking chair, are you going to want to have to explain to your children why it is that you allowed this threat to mushroom in size, grow stronger and come back and face our children in a far more dangerous way? That`s what we have to prevent.

Any time you don`t confront a threat, give them a chance to win, they will get bigger; they will get more dangerous. We have to win this war and we have to prevail in Iraq.

BECK: You know, the -- so many people are saying, well, we don`t have health care. I was on a train and someone said, "You know, I`m a health care professional, and you are always saying that, you know, this war is so important. Look at all the things we could do with health care." Your response?

KENNEDY: Your health care isn`t going to make a difference to you if you don`t have security at home. The No. 1 responsibility for our federal government is to make sure that we keep America safe.

This is an enemy that will follow us home, unlike many other enemies we`ve had. Their intentions of meaning evil to us is clear. If they could have killed 300,000 instead of 3,000 on 9/11, they would have done it. We need to make sure they never have that chance.

BECK: By the way, Osama bin Laden is prepared to kill 10 million, I`ve read recently. Congressman, thank you very much.

With the election less than a week away, it is time once again to bring you another in our series of public service announcements, because I believe that an educated voter is an educated voter.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Voting is a right, but it`s also a responsibility. Each year thousands of votes are illegally cast. It`s called election fraud. And it`s a felony, punishable by up to seven years in prison.

On November 7, remember, if you`re dead, please do not vote.



BECK: Every day, you can hear my radio program on stations all across the country. And today, we are happy to welcome a brand new talk station to our lineup, starting tomorrow on Super Talk 96.5 FM in Cincinnati Ohio.

If you can`t find an affiliate in your area, you can sign up and listen online at my web site, at

Now we go to Pat Gray at our affiliate in Houston, Texas, 950 KPRC. Pat does mornings.

Hello, Pat.


BECK: The outrage of the day is, again, with the hurricane survivors or evacuees in Houston, Texas. Tell me the latest.

GRAY: These happen to be Hurricane Rita survivors who got free FEMA trailers from the government, and they`ve been vandalized to the point where they`re ruined. They`ve been used as meth labs, and they`ve been taken on deer hunting trips.

BECK: Wait a minute. Been used as meth labs?

GRAY: Meth labs. Yes.

BECK: That is beautiful.

GRAY: Isn`t that nice?

BECK: And special, yes. Is there -- is there nobody walking around these trailers and saying, "Hey, by the way, the meth lab should be shut down"?

GRAY: That`s kind of the point, isn`t it? There`s about 1,200 that have been used and abused and even destroyed. You know how many people have been kicked out of their FEMA trailer? Five, a whopping total of five.

Now, you know this, because you saw me through this really difficult period of my life just after Hurricane Rita.

BECK: Yes.

GRAY: I lost a plant during Hurricane Rita.

BECK: Right.

GRAY: But when...

BECK: I remember the loss of the plant. Now I understand the tragedy that you...

GRAY: It was awful.

BECK: Yes.

GRAY: And -- and when I got my FEMA trailer, I took care of it.

BECK: Sure.

GRAY: I made sure that it was in good shape, because I knew the government paid $20,000 for it.

BECK: You know, it is amazing to me, Pat, how the survivors and the evacuees -- you know, I really don`t consider a lot of these people survivors. I think the survivors are the ones that are out building their -- rebuilding their life right now. And that`s the majority.

GRAY: Exactly.

BECK: But how many of these people are still complaining that they -- they haven`t gotten enough from the government? When did the government become the first resort and not the last resort?

GRAY: And not only that, but when did FEMA become a welfare agency? It`s been over a year since Katrina and Rita now, and we`ve still got people using FEMA trailers as meth labs? Or taking them -- taking them on deer hunting trips?

When does that free ride stop, and who`s -- I think you touched on this -- who`s minding the store? Why is no government person, no official, nobody, checking into what`s being done with our tax dollars?

BECK: How was this -- how was this found and what is the answer, then, on why somebody isn`t checking up on this?

GRAY: Well, I think somebody finally, you know, a year later finally said, I wonder how those FEMA trailers are doing after all this time, and I wonder if our tax dollars are being spent properly? And they finally went and investigated and found that it`s all being wasted.

BECK: It is amazing to me how correct FDR was when he talked about the difference between welfare and workfare. And he said it`s got to be workfare because if you don`t earn it, it doesn`t mean anything. We really have become a nation that is just owed it, give it to me, and you`ll see it here. It doesn`t mean anything.

GRAY: We`ve seen that over and over again. When you just give and give and give, people tend to take and take and take.

BECK: Pat, thank you very much. Talk to you again at KPRC in the morning. Pat Gray. Back in a minute.


BECK: All right, welcome to "The Real Story." And with all of the talk about John Kerry and the elections, I want to bring our attention back to something that`s just a little more important: I like to call it the end of Western civilization. Call me crazy.

Today, we`re going to focus on the threat from Russia. And you`re sitting there thinking, "Russia?" I swear to you, in five minutes, you are going to think it`s one of the most important issues that we face.

But I want to start with the politics of war. We`ve got to be very, very careful who we elect to lead us in wartime. And, you know, we all think that voting is a right, but with that right comes a responsibility to do our homework and put people in office who have the country`s best intentions at heart and are honest.

The wrong people may not just disagree internally, they may actually circumvent the president and help the enemy! You think that`s outrageous? Listen to the real story of what one of our politicians did during the Cold War with Russia.

According to an author and political science professor, Paul Kengor, Senator Ted Kennedy was so upset the way President Reagan was handling the Cold War that he actually reached out to the Soviet Union and offered to help them. His motivation was not only to stop Reagan`s, quote, "belligerence" that he thought would lead us to nuclear war, but also to influence the 1984 election.

Kennedy denies this, saying that the allegations are "way off the mark." But, unfortunately for Ted Kennedy, a recently released KGB memo from 1983 says the opposite. In it, Russian officials make it quite clear that, through an intermediary, Kennedy reached out to then-President Andropov, offering to meet with him and help, especially with public relations on American television.

Of course, you might remember, a few years later, we won that war, forcing Kennedy to admit that, OK, well, you know, Reagan has to be honored as the president who won the Cold War. That must have killed him.

So this year, as you hear people like John Kerry and others saying that we should pull our troops out, we should negotiate, just know that history has shown us that some people feel so strongly that they`re right that they will actually go behind our back and help the enemy. So as you vote next week, make sure you pay attention to the resumes of some of the people that we`re electing, because some things never change.

Now, from the enemy within to the real enemies, one of them, Russia, a country that has gone from superpower to third world country in the minds of most Americans. But the real story is that couldn`t be farther from the truth.

Let me lay out the case for you. A couple of weeks ago, a story came out that most of the media either missed or decided to ignore. The headline read, "Russia: Arms race with the U.S. may start again." It featured a quote from the Russian chief of staff warning the United States that deploying a missile defense system in Europe would bring about a new arms race. Yes, I can see why we ignored that one, huh?

Then, of course, there`s the little matter that Russia has been a major roadblock towards passing a U.N. resolution against Iran. The Russian defense minister recently said that they will oppose any attempts to now punish Iran. Gee, guys, didn`t we already agree to that in the first resolution, you know, the one with the August 31st deadline?

And finally, a new congressional study was just released showing that Russia is now the number-one supplier of weapons to the developing world and to China. To Iran, they sold $700 million in surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles, along with upgrades to their new bombers, new MIG fighter jets, new battle tanks.

OK, you`re saying, "Oh, big deal. I mean, they`ve threatened the arms race. They`re blocking sanctions. They`re dealing weapons to our biggest enemies. They`re harmless. They`re Russia. And we do some of that stuff, too."

Well, let me put this into a greater context for you, because I believe this isn`t just about Russia at all. It is about Russia`s idea of who they are, who they want to be, their plans for a future, a future in which they control not only all of their former territories of the Soviet Union, but also those of -- are ready for this -- Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt and Israel, basically a modern-day Byzantine Empire.

Now, the scary part is you`ve dismissed that until you realize -- I didn`t make that up -- that actually comes from a Russian politician. This guy is basically the Karl Rove of one of the leading parties in Russia, a party that some people think may take power in the next six years.

But even if that happens, how would they pull that off? Well, consider now the solution proposed by a former Russian military officer, that he believes that Russia should befriend the Muslim world and tell them that, "We have the weapons and the power, you have a billion people. Let`s work together."

Is Russia`s support of Iran starting to make a little more sense to you now?

If you will just for a moment seriously consider that that may be their long-term plan, then what`s the one thing that would unite the former Byzantine Empire along with the Muslims? Israel, taking on Israel. Now, if you think that`s crazy, it has been attempted before.

In 1982 -- and you are not going to believe that you haven`t heard this before -- the Israeli military found an enormous cache of Russian weapons, including tanks and heavy artillery. They were all buried in Lebanon.

When Israel found them, the Israeli prime minister said at the time, "The pre-positioning by the Soviet Union" -- I`m quoting -- "of such massive quantities of arms could only be in preparation to overrun Israel, then Jordan, then Saudi Arabia, and the other Persian Gulf states." Again, that was 1982.

You know, Winston Churchill said that Russia is a "riddle, wrapped in a mystery, surrounded by an enigma." I don`t mean to throw Churchill under the bus, but I think he was wrong. It ain`t that hard, Winston. Russia, once again, is our enemy. And this time, I fear, the war with them will not be cold.

Daryl Kimball, he is the executive director of the Arms Control Association.

Daryl, Russia`s Security Council, the secretary there, just said that they have -- and I`m paraphrasing -- they have no information that Iran is non-peaceful. My question to you is: Do they have TVs in Russia?

DARYL KIMBALL, EXEC. DIR., ARMS CONTROL ASSN.: Well, I don`t think anybody knows exactly what Iran`s intentions are. It`s impossible to judge somebody`s intentions, to look inside their mind. What`s happening in Iran -- what`s happening...

BECK: We can take them at their word, can`t we?

KIMBALL: Well, I`m not saying we take them at their word, but what is important is that right now Iran is moving towards the capability to produce bomb-grade nuclear material with their uranium enrichment program. And the problem we`re having right now with Russia and others, in part, is, you know, what is the best way to prevent Iran from getting to that point? And in what way can we use the Security Council to persuade or cajole Iran into stopping its enrichment program? And that`s one of the areas where there`s disagreement right now.

BECK: You know, I know that you are a nonproliferation expert and not an expert on, you know, the political goings-on of the world. But when you`ve got a 10-day military expert that`s happening right now in Iran, and they are calling it -- the military expert -- the great prophet, which is, I believe, an ode to the 12th imam, you don`t sell arms to these people.

KIMBALL: Well, the Russians shouldn`t be selling arms to Iran, but we do -- this does reflect a problem we have and we`ve had for decades, the United States and Russia competing with one another to exert their influence in certain areas of the world.

And Russia wants to be on Iran`s good side. Iran is on Russia`s border. And we have a difference of opinion with Russia -- and we should - - about whether they should sell air defense systems to Iran.

But the difference of opinion about the Iranians and the Security Council and whether to move ahead with sanctions also has to do with the fundamental difference of opinion between the U.S. and Russia and China about whether tough sanctions are going to persuade this Iranian regime to do a full stop and a 180 on its nuclear program or whether it is going to embolden them.

BECK: Well, I mean, this is the same excuse we have over and over again, and we all know how it ends. It ends with them getting weapons. It happened in North Korea. We were having the same discussion. Either road we would have taken, most likely, eventually, would have ended with them getting a weapon.

Is there any way to turn this clock back, because we are soon going to be facing a world full of people -- it`s like you`re going to be able to get a nuclear weapon at a Sharper Image soon.

KIMBALL: Well, I mean, I deal in arms control and nonproliferation. We`ve been following this for decades. And one of the big problems we have with respect to the sale of conventional arms, as well as nuclear technology, is that the rules and the standards are often broken.

And with respect to conventional arms sales, as you said in your opening, Russia has become the leader in sales to developing nations, which is defined as China and India. The United States remains the global leader in all arms sales, with about $12 billion.

So we have a problem with the global arms trade that all states need to work towards dealing with and limiting. Otherwise, these hands are going to fall into the wrong hands, and we`re going to be fighting against our own weapons in the future.

BECK: Great. Daryl, thank you. I believe we already are fighting with our own weapons or against our own weapons in some places.

That, my friend, is "The Real Story" tonight.



BECK: There is a chance that the Democrats -- this is exactly what the Democrats have been talking about the whole time -- that this John Kerry statement is nothing other than the Karl Rove October surprise. It very well could be.

Karl Rove, he`s this evil. Karl Rove`s evil plan could have been the whole time -- you remember everybody was saying, "Why is he so happy? Why is he feeling like everything`s going to be so good?" Maybe it`s this. Maybe his whole plan was, "Listen, just keep going. Never mind. Don`t worry about the polls. At some point, John Kerry will say something stupid and lose this election for the Democrats, as well." I`m just saying!


BECK: You know, there are shows that are funny, and then there are shows that break ground, but usually they don`t -- you know, a show doesn`t do both. "Scrubs" is one of the few.

Dr. Perry Cox, our next guest, has given America a chronic case of the giggles. Get it? He`s a doctor, and I`m using medic -- anyways. He was on our program -- I don`t even know. John C. McGinley, when were you on, a couple of months ago?

JOHN C. MCGINLEY, ACTOR, "SCRUBS": You had me on when you guys were just getting started, I would say back around June or so, right when you guys were just getting up and running.

BECK: When we were just a horrible, horrible show.

MCGINLEY: No, congratulations. You`ve had a lot of success here.

BECK: Thank you. Now, John, when you were on, we were talking about your son, Buddy. And we had a great conversation, and I said, "I`ve got to have you back when it gets close to the Buddy Walk." And here we are already. Tell America...

MCGINLEY: Well, you were good to your word, and you were nice enough to have us back on. My son`s name is Max.

BECK: Oh, my gosh, I am so sorry.

MCGINLEY: But that`s OK, not to be confused with the Buddy Walk, which is our day of inclusion that I wanted to talk to you about, because we have about 250, 300 of them spread out over September, October, and November. And it`s this wonderful day of inclusion and empowerment for kids with special needs, primarily in this case kids with Down syndrome.

BECK: OK. Now, you say that the Buddy Walk is not just for kids. It`s also for parents. Why do you say that?

MCGINLEY: Well, as a caregiver -- and you may know, because I know you have a child with special needs.

BECK: If you would like to call my daughter Lisa so I feel better, because that`s not her name.

MCGINLEY: Yes, I would feel better. You were blessed with Lisa.

BECK: No, sorry. My daughter`s name is Mary.


BECK: Yes, but...

MCGINLEY: You were blessed with Mary. And a lot of parents who come out to the Buddy Walk, it`s almost like the first time they`re reintroducing themselves to kind of a coalition of people who are in the same boat, because you feel a lot of times a lot of parents -- Charlie Weis talks about in his new book, the Notre Dame coach, "No Excuses," talks about how there`s a natural sense that maybe you did something wrong, which is entirely wrong. You didn`t do anything wrong.

BECK: How long did that take you to get over that? I...

MCGINLEY: About four or five months.

BECK: Yes, really? Wow, you were fast. It took me a little longer to recover. I think it was our second, maybe our second child before we really kind of got over that.

MCGINLEY: That`s intense. And it`s an opportunity at the Buddy Walk for when parents, when caregivers do come out to embrace other people who have kids with special needs and be welcomed into the first of many communities -- hopefully, you know, a whole society -- where they embrace the differences that their child has and include them instead of excluding them.

And that`s what the day is about. It`s really a pretty special day about inclusion and elevation.

BECK: OK, you have something that really makes you angry, and it is a term that you would like to see banished from our vocabulary.

MCGINLEY: Well, it really just takes the wind out of you when people refer to kids as "retards" and "retarded." And the reason it`s so heinous to me is because, when you refer to somebody as a retard or a `tard, you`ve actually picked a perfect storm of cowardice, because you`re picking on someone who`s not going to return serve.

God forbid you call an African-American a (bleep), or a Jewish person a kike, or an Italian person a ginny. A, it`s wrong, it`s not acceptable, and you just might get your ass kicked. So that`s not going to happen when you do that to a kid with special needs, so you`ve picked the perfect target.

BECK: Well, no, OK, now wait a minute. Hang on just a second, because there are -- you know, there are some terms -- like yesterday I was talking about what John Kerry said. And I said, "So we`re calling our troops, as I understand it, we`re calling them emotionally retarded." Well, that is -- I`m sorry, educationally retarded. That is not calling someone with special needs -- because I agree with you -- calling somebody with special needs retarded is the worst of the worst, because you`re exactly right. However, that is an actual "to slow down," to say you`re educationally retarded. Are you saying you have a problem with that word in any form?

MCGINLEY: No, of course not. But the slang use of, "Don`t be a retard," "That`s so retarded," the visual image that begs is -- the poster child for that is a kid with special needs. And so what you`re essentially -- the synonyms for "don`t be retarded," "that`s so retarded," is you`re an idiot, you`re a moron, you`re that kid drooling in the corner whose 21st chromosome tripled.

Well, guess what? That kid is trying his hardest, and he`s doing his best. And so guess what?

BECK: May I...

MCGINLEY: He might be doing a great job.

BECK: Devil`s advocate quickly here, because I`ve only got 30 seconds. But I would rather know -- the thing I hate about political correctness is it shuts people up. It doesn`t change their hearts. And I want to know who that person is that would call my child retarded. I want to know them. I don`t want them to be thinking it. I want to hear it so I can deal with that person. Do you understand that side of it?

MCGINLEY: Well, I do, but the fundamental problem with hurtful language is that a lot of people don`t know. And so all I`m sharing with you is that, when you do refer to somebody as a retard or a `tard, it is hurtful.

BECK: No, I know.

MCGINLEY: And it`s like a spike right in my sternum...

BECK: I know. I feel the same way.

MCGINLEY: .. and all caregivers of people with special needs. And so just to be aware it`s hurtful.


MCGINLEY: What you choose to do with that, you know, go with God. I`m not going to tell you how to talk, but now you know it`s hurtful.

BECK: John, thank you very much. If you want information on the Buddy Walk, please visit We`ll be back in a second with your mail.


BECK: You know, once the Ohio votes came in and it was the end of the 2004 presidential election, I`ve got to tell you, the last thing that I thought we`d be talking about less than a week before the 2006 election was John Kerry. But here we are, and your e-mail is all Kerry, all the time.

"Hey, Glenn, you sick, twisted freak. So sorry about the spellin`. I be in the Army. Thought you`d like to see the photo attached. It`s for our kind Senator Kerry, AKA Lurch. Love all you do for us ignorant folks in the military. Keep up the great work! Thanks, brother. Joel from Fort Benning."

You`ve got to love these guys. Look at this. You`ve got to love them. Here they are. They`re in the middle of a war zone, and they`re still maintaining their sense of humor. God bless you guys.

Now, Democratic candidates in close races are running away from John Kerry, like the enemy runs when these troops in this picture roll down the street. You know, I believe America will accept an awful lot of crap during a political election, but they`re really going to take it when they think that you`re going after these guys. It`s difficult to understand what Kerry was going for here, but it is just impossible to understand his reaction to all of this.

Our next e-mail comes in from Amy. "Hey, Glenn, I`m a longtime listener, and I was dying when you were talking about the fun-size candy bars, UNICEF, et cetera. Well, I think my son may have topped the list of the crappiest things to get in your candy bag. We just spent the last hour laughing so hard we could barely breathe. Could you ever imagine giving a coupon to unlimited Jazzercise for one week to a kid?"

Amy, not so much, but she proved it. Here is the coupon -- watch this -- she found it mixed in with the Reese`s and the Snickers that she found in her kid`s candy bag. Plus, can we highlight the fine print here? There it is. I mean, I feel like it`s like some twisted fat joke or something. It`s got to be, right? Has the media freaked us out so badly about childhood obesity that we can`t let our kids enjoy a little candy on Halloween? Can we leave our kids with at least one holiday, please?

All right, a couple of things we have to clean up here quickly. First of all, I have some homework for you. We have an entire hour with Al Sharpton on Friday, and it is Al Sharpton and Glenn Beck unplugged. I want to hear your questions and anything goes. Just e-mail them to

Also, we`re getting lots of e-mail on our Christmas comedy tour. It`s a stand-up tour. It`s really, really great. Many of the shows have already sold out. Tickets went on sale Monday. Still tickets available in Denver, Omaha, Akron, Worcester and I believe Toledo. We also added a second show to Tampa. Tickets go on sale for that one tomorrow. Get all of the details at, and don`t miss it. See you tomorrow.


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