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APEC Summit Wraps Up in Vietnam
Aired November 19, 2006 - 09:00 ET
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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR, CNN SUNDAY MORNING: "Now in the News": Take a look at this. Some video coming in to CNN, a suicide car bomb kills 17 people south of Baghdad this morning. The bomber apparently targeted day laborers who crowded around the car before it exploded. We'll take you live to Baghdad in just a minute.
World leaders and -- their gowns. President Bush and Pacific Rim leaders have wrapped up an economic summit in Vietnam with a traditional group photo in the traditional Vietnamese gowns. Right now, Mr. Bush is in Ho Chi Minh City, formerly known as Saigon.
A Secret Service agent recovering in the hospital this morning after being shot at an Annapolis, Maryland mall, of all places. He was shot while intervening in a fight between two teenagers. He returned fire, wounding the armed teen, and we'll take you live to the scene a little bit later this hour.
T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR, CNN SUNDAY MORNING: And police were on hand to try to control some of those overly exuberant Ohio State fans. They started dozens of fires on the Columbus campus celebrating the team's victory over Michigan. Police now say they've made over 40 arrests.
And, this is what we've been telling you about and what you've been waiting for. There it is.
NGUYEN: Oh, look at that.
HOLMES: Tom-Kat! The official wedding portrait of Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise shows the Armani-clad couple as only their official photographer can capture them. In case, I don't know, you've been living somewhere that doesn't have TV reception and --
NGUYEN: A cave?
HOLMES: And no other human beings around, the couple married yesterday in Italy.
NGUYEN: Who can forget that?
HOLMES: We'll go now to Bonnie Schneider who is Armani-clad, as well, this morning.
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HOLMES: We run down the top stories for you every 15 minutes on CNN SUNDAY MORNING. We have in-depth coverage for you all morning long. Your next check of the headlines is coming up at 9:15 Eastern.
A major shake-up. An amazing example of what an earthquake can do to a house like yours.
NGUYEN: Frightening.
HOLMES: Yeah. It wasn't the real thing. Everybody is OK.
From the CNN Center in Atlanta -- just a test, yes. This is CNN SUNDAY MORNING. It is November the 19th, 9 a.m. here in Atlanta, 5 p.m. in Baghdad. I am T.J. Holmes.
NGUYEN: Good morning, everybody. I'm Betty Nguyen. We want to thank you for starting your day with us.
Let's get it started, in Iraq where we have learned the identity of another abducted security contractor. Jonathan Cote is from Getzville, New York. This photo was provided to CNN by his family and it shows him while he was serving in the military. His family had no statement except to say they hope he's released. Cote and Paul Reuben, are two of the five Western contractors abducted Thursday, in southern Iraq, by men posing as Iraqi police.
HOLMES: Also, in Iraqi this morning Iraqi civilians targeted by a suicide bomber. It happened in Hilla, about 60 miles south of Baghdad; at least 17 people were killed in that attack. CNN's Arwa Damon live now in Baghdad for us with the details.
Hello again, Arwa.
ARWA DAMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT, CNN SUNDAY MORNING: T.J., that attack was targeting day laborers. They gathered at a location that day laborers traditionally gather at, looking for a day's work, when this attacker drove up to them. Drove up to their location in his vehicle and lured them around the car by saying he was able to offer them jobs.
As they gathered around him, he detonated his explosives, killing at least 17 Iraqis in that attack, wounding at least 49. Now, in Baghdad as well, an attack against -- occurring in a predominantly Shia area in southeastern Baghdad, in that attack, three car bombs exploded at a crowded bus station, killing at least 10 Iraqis, and wounding another 75.
A very deadly day here, T.J.
HOLMES: Arwa, we were talking about the second contractor that we have identified now, in addition to Paul Reuben. What do we know now? Is there any new update about the search for these kidnapped contractors?
DAMON: T.J., all we can really tell you is the search does continue. The military is increasingly reluctant to disclose specific details. They basically don't want to jeopardize any kind of rescue operation. All they really are confirming at this point is there are intense, ongoing military operations. The two were kidnapped, along with two other American contractors and one Austrian contractor, when their convoy came upon a fake checkpoint. The local militiamen were masquerading as Iraqi police. The five were abducted at that point. This is what the U.S. military is saying.
They are saying they believe it was a highly-coordinated, well- planned, well thought out attack. The convoy consisted of 43 vehicles, somehow the attackers were able to isolate 19 of those vehicles and kidnapped the five contractors, T.J.
HOLMES: Arwa Damon for us in Baghdad. Thank you so much.
The situation in Iraq is the focus this morning's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer." And among Wolf's guests, will be Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison and the incoming chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Carl Levin. That comes your way today at 11 a.m. Eastern. So stay right here with CNN.
Also today, CNN correspondents discuss military options and troop levels in Iraq with host John Roberts on "This Week at War" comes your way at 1 p.m. Eastern.
NGUYEN: North Korea was the dominant topic at the five-day economic summit that just concluded in Hanoi, but no mention of North Korea was made in the written communique at the end of summit. And that surprised many observers. President Bush is now in Ho Chi Minh City for a brief stop before he leaves for Indonesia. CNN Elaine Quijano is there, formerly known as Saigon.
Elaine, let me ask you this, was the president disappointed with this written statement?
ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, CNN SUNDAY MORNING: Well, you know, it's interesting. We had heard, Betty, from officials with the White House yesterday that, in fact, it was unclear what form this statement would take, exactly. So we learned today that that written communique did not ultimately, as you noted, include a mention of North Korea.
Now, what's interesting that what we did hear instead was something verbally from the APEC chairman, who this year, is the president of Vietnam. He expressed that concern verbally, we're told, behind closed doors to other APEC leaders as well as at a news conference he held earlier today calling on North Korea to return to the negotiating table.
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NGUYEN MINH TRIET, PRESIDENT OF VIETNAM (through translator): The leaders agreed to ask the parties concerned to strictly implement the resolution 1718 of the U.N. Security Council. And they also call on parties concerned to come back to the six-party talks so as to reach a satisfactory solution to the Korean nuclear issue at an earliest possible date, contributing to peace, stability region and the world. (END VIDEO CLIP)
QUIJANO: Now, earlier President Bush sat down with China's president, President Hu Jintao. China, of course, is a critical ally in those talks. Those six-nation talks aimed at getting North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons program.
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GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: China is a very important nation and the United States believes strongly that by working together we can help solve problems such as North Korea and Iran. Our bilateral relations are very good and you and I are committed to keeping them that way.
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QUIJANO: Now, President Bush also met with Russia's President Vladimir Putin, and as expected, two leaders announced after their meeting that in fact the United States is backing Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organization.
Meantime, here in Ho Chi Minh City, it is dinner time. President Bush actually spending a night out on the town. He's having dinner at this hour with a staunch U.S. ally in the war on terror, Prime Minister Howard of Australia. The president, the first lady, the prime minister and his wife all having dinner here in Ho Chi Minh City.
And then it's a full slate of events tomorrow for President Bush including a stop at the stock exchange here in Ho Chi Minh City, as well as a roundtable meeting with business leaders. Betty, President Bush, clearly trying to highlight what he sees as the new face of Vietnam.
NGUYEN: A lot of history there, in Ho Chi Minh City, formerly known as Saigon, as they look to the future we'll see how it plays out. Elaine Quijano joining us live.
Thank you, Elaine.
HOLMES: President Bush's planned visit to Indonesia tomorrow has sparked outrage and protests as you see here. Thousand of demonstrators marched through the streets of Indonesia's capital Jakarta today. They condemned the visit and called President Bush a war criminal, and a terrorist. Indonesia has the largest Muslim population in the world.
NGUYEN: Get this, a day at the mall actually turns violent and a Secret Service agent is among the wounded. We are live in Maryland with the details. Then we want you to take a look at this.
HOLMES: That's a fake quake. And it could help engineers design buildings that will stand up to the real deal.
NGUYEN: Also, mindless eating, we're all guilty of it. If you're looking for ways to lose a few pounds this holiday season, it can be hard. It may actually be kind of simple, believe it or not, to master the mind over the matter. We'll explain, coming up.
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NGUYEN: "Now in the News": Violence in Iraq this morning. Check out these pictures. A suicide bomb killed at least 17 people south of Baghdad. As many as 49 others were injured in that blast, which apparently targeted day laborers looking for work.
Another contractor is identified. The family of Jonathan Cote provided this photo of him on to CNN. It shows him while he was serving in the military. Cote is one of the five security contractors still missing in Iraq , and the second one that has been identified. Former police officer Paul Reuben is also among the missing.
Elsewhere in the Mid East, the Israeli military calls off an air strike after hundreds of Palestinians make themselves human shields. Protestors gathered outside the home of a militant leader after Israel warned him that an attack was coming. A military spokeswoman says they cancelled the strike to avoid hurting innocent people.
HOLMES: President Bush is now in Ho Chi Minh City. He arrived about two hours ago in the city known during the Vietnam war as Saigon. Earlier the president and Pacific Rim leaders upon wrapped up an economic summit in the Vietnam's capital of Hanoi.
And this was the celebration at the campus of Ohio State and it wasn't pretty at all times after fans got carried away celebrating the big victory over Michigan yesterday. Dozens of fires were set around the campus. Police now say that nearly 40 arrests were made for disorderly conduct, assault and arson. Ohio won that game 42 to 39 to stay undefeated, and head to the national championship game.
We run down the top stories for you every 15 minutes on CNN SUNDAY MORNING. We have in-depth coverage for you all morning long. Your next check is coming up at the bottom of the hour.
NGUYEN: Now to another big story that we've been following this morning. An off-duty Secret Service agent shot at a mall in Annapolis, Maryland. He was injured while trying to stop a fight between teenagers. Gary Nuremburg joins us live from Annapolis with the details.
How did this all start, Gary?
GARY NURENBERG, CNN CORRESPONDENT, CNN SUNDAY MORNING: Betty, put yourself in the position of hundreds of shoppers last night. The week before Thanksgiving, going to the mall to do some shopping and ending up in the middle of a gun fight.
This is a large shopping mall, about 270 stores, just outside Maryland's capital city of Annapolis. About 7:15 last night a group of teenagers got in a fight in a food court in front of hundreds of witnesses, including an off-duty Secret Service agent and his family. He intervened to try to break up that fight. Captain Tim Bowman, of the local police, tells us what happened next.
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CAPT. TIM BOWMAN, ANNE ARUNDEL CO. POLICE: One of those individuals pulled a handgun and began shooting at the second individual. At that time, an individual who was in the immediate area, we understand was an off-duty federal agent, drew his service weapon and began exchanging fire with the first assailant.
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NURENBERG: That off-duty Secret Service agent was struck by a bullet. He returned fire, hitting the gunman with a bullet. In the exchange of gunfire witnesses say that at least 10 shots were fired, at least one other person was struck.
Two of the shooting victims were taken to Baltimore Shock Trauma, which is kind of the premiere emergency room for the State of Maryland. At least one other was taken to a local hospital. All were reported to have non-life-threatening injuries and all reported in stable condition. And there was a report this morning that at least one of the teenage victims has now been released from the hospital.
When the shooting broke out there was pandemonium in that food court, with hundreds of people scrambling to get out of the way. One eyewitness told us the story of one man jumping on his family, smothering it, to try to protect them from the gunfire.
Told us a story of a 15-year-old girl going up an escalator, saw an unattended eight-year-old boy, grabbed him, rushed him into the restroom to get out of harm's way. Panic ensued.
Police officers arrived quickly. The mall was briefly closed. But, as you can see, as we approach 9:30 this morning there's already a line of folks lining up, getting ready to go back in.
NGUYEN: Yes, I can see them behind you. But, Gary, let me ask you this, any extra security measures being taken today especially with the holiday season upon us? A lot of people will be out and about.
NURENBERG: No question about the fact that this is a very busy weekend for the mall, and no question about the fact that there's heavy security here. Whether it's expert or not, I can't tell you, but we can report that security officers have been evident since at least 5:30 this morning, when we arrived.
NGUYEN: All right. CNN's Gary Nurenberg. Thank you for that, Gary
HOLMES: Other news making headlines "Across America". In Illinois, a hospital standoff in Aurora has ended with the fatal shooting of an armed patient. Police say they still don't know if the shot that killed the man was by police or whether it was self- inflicted. Autopsy results are due today. In Albuquerque, New Mexico, two containers with low-level radioactive materials will be turned over to state investigators tomorrow. Their discovery yesterday beneath a parked car, at the state fairgrounds, prompted an evacuation. It was later determined that cobalt and cesium did not pose any serious threat. Investigators will try to learn where the canisters came from.
CROWD CHANTING: Wii! Wii! Wii! Wii!
And we all want Wii. You can get what they're after. This new Nintendo game console, with the funny name, went on sale at midnight. I don't know if he got his, if he woke up in time. Some people camped out for a week to get their hands on the Wii, which is spelled W-I-I.
NGUYEN: Why? We don't know.
HOLMES: We don't have an answer to that. The small but clever little devices is cheaper than other consoles, like say, I don't know, the PS3, you may have heard of that one. It offers interactive games like tennis, that even the simplest beginner, the novice, anybody can play this thing.
NGUYEN: Are you referring to me?
HOLMES: No, I wasn't.
NGUYEN: Yes, you were. Because I played the game yesterday and --
HOLMES: You looked like a pro.
NGUYEN: I took a smack down on it.
HOLMES: No!
NGUYEN: But, hey, when we weren't live I was really killing the court. I was.
HOLMES: She was. We can vouch for her.
NGUYEN: Take a look at this, surviving shaky ground. These pictures now. Check that out. How would your house do in a major quake? Would it hold up? Do you even know how it would do? This fake quake may provide some answers.
HOLMES: Plus take a look at this picture. Can you identify your president in there? World leaders dressing up in some unique outfits. There he is in the back, president bush got a photo break for the fashion challenged, maybe. Stay with us.
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HOLMES: Well, we have a house here for you to take a look at. It doesn't look like much maybe, there, but scientists are shaking things up with this house see how it holds up in an earthquake. CNN's Rob Marciano has more on this ground breaking research. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ROB MARCIANO, CNN METEOROLOGIST, CNN SUNDAY MORNING (voice over): Three bedrooms, a cozy den, the table is even set for dinner. But the location might leave a little to be desired.
ANDRE FILIATRAULT, UB ENGINEERIG PROFESSOR: This is a full- scale, two-story, 1800-foot townhouse with an attached garage, and it's mounted on our shake tables here, and we'll submit it to a large earthquake.
MARCIANO: Andre Filiatrault is an engineering professor at the State University of New York, at Buffalo. His team spent a month building this house, in a huge lab, last spring. Now they plan to shake it apart with a simulated earthquake.
FILIATRAULT: In the other corner over there, we have a whole set of instruments that measure how much this foundation moves.
MARCIANO: The house is equipped with 250 sensors to monitor every nook and cranny; eight cameras will film what happens inside, but what's most important is what happens in the basement, so to speak.
(On camera): Now we're actually underneath the dining room where this house sits on top of this huge shaker. This is it. This is what is going to do it, isn't it, Andre?
FILIATRAULT: That's right. That's one of the shake tables. There's two of them. And this shake table has eight actuators. It's like a big piston. You can see one of those pistons here. You can see the stainless steel piston, here, the shaft of the stainless steel piston. And basically, this will move up and down during the shaking and in 15 seconds you will see very high velocity displacement and so on to reproduce the motion.
MARCIANO (voice over): Within a few seconds, one of the eight cameras dies. In one room, computers, TVs and lamps go flying. In the garage, a station wagon rocks and rolls. In one room where all of the furniture has been braced and bolted down, the bookcases and television are still intact. Plates slip and slide, but like a magic trick, remain on the kitchen table.
But the house severely damaged with large cracks in the walls. Studying all this will help engineers design better wooden buildings. Some day this fake quake could save your life.
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NGUYEN: Yes, it could. Well, hopefully that won't be happening any time soon anywhere across the nation, but just in case, let's check with Bonnie Schneider to see if there's any activity we should know about.
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HOLMES: Well, I've had a couple of meals with you, and I thought I needed to say this to you, after watching you eat.
NGUYEN: Oh, no!
HOLMES: Put down the fork! Walk away from the table.
NGUYEN: Because I can shovel it in, let me tell you.
HOLMES: The girl can eat. The girl can eat. But what you may not know, your mind may be making you fat. Not suggesting Betty.
NGUYEN: Right, I got it! I got it!
HOLMES: We'll tell you how to avoid mindless eating during the holiday season, plus this.
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NGUYEN: That sounds so fake, doesn't it? But go ahead, by all means, laugh out loud because it might actually cure what ails you. We'll explain coming up.
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NGUYEN: "Now in the News," day laborers the target of a deadly suicide car bomb attack south of Baghdad, this morning, 17 people killed when they gathered around the vehicle. Check out that vehicle now. They thought the driver was offering jobs, not the case.
CNN has learned the identity of a second American abducted in Iraq. Jonathan Cote is one of the five security contractors kidnapped last Thursday. His family provided this picture to CNN and it shows him while he was serving in the military. The contractors were taken in southern Iraq by men posing as Iraqi police.
Not very warm there, no. President Bush's planned visit to Indonesia tomorrow has sparked protests. Thousands of demonstrators marched in the streets of Indonesia's capital, Jakarta, today. They condemned the visit and called President Bush a "war criminal" and a "terrorist."
HOLMES: A secret service agent recovering in the hospital, this morning, after being shot in an Annapolis, Maryland, mall. The off- duty agent was shot while intervening in a fight between two teenagers. He returned fire, wounding the armed teen.
Also, police on hand to try to try and control some of those understandably excited Ohio state fan, but some of them got out of hand. They started dozens of fires on the Columbus campus celebrating the football teams' win over No. 2 Michigan. Police now say they made now nearly 40 arrests.
And as you know, we run down the top stories for you every 15 minutes here on CNN Sunday morning with in-depth coverage for you all morning long. Your next check of the headlines coming up at 9:45 Eastern.
NGUYEN: All right, I know it's early, but are you happy? Are you really happy because this weekend Dr. Sanjay Gupta is exploring the amazing link between happiness and health and how laughter really is the best medicine, even though it sounds kind of funny at times. Here's a preview of Dr. Gupta's series on happiness and health which airs tonight at 10:00 Eastern.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, big breath in.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Every morning on Laguna Beach, California, you'll find a group gathered on the sand laughing. There are no jokes, no punch lines. They're laughing for no reason at all. Before you write this off as another off-the-wall California fad, you should know that Laughter Yoga was the brainchild of Indian Dr. Madan Kataria. He was doing research for an article called "Laughter, the Best Medicine" when he got the idea.
DR. MADAN KATARIA, LAUGHTER CLUB CREATOR: I was a very serious physician practicing medicine in India. I never laughed so much because I don't have a great sense of humor. It just came from up and suddenly 4:00 in the morning I got this idea, "Why not start a Laughter Club."
GUPTA: What began with five people in a Mumbai park in 1985 has spread to more than 5,000 Laughter Clubs in 50 countries.
KATARIA: You don't need a sense of humor to laugh, you don't need to be happy in order to laugh. In fact, when you laugh you develop your sense of humor, you develop the joy within yourself.
GUPTA: More than that, Kataria says the breathing and laughing of Laughter Yoga will improve your health, even if you have to fake the laughter. It's a claim backed up by Lee Burke at Loma Linda University.
Burke has found laughter decreases stress hormones, improves our immune system and boosts endorphins. Those are the brain chemicals associated with the runner's high.
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Dr. Kataria, who began the laugh club movement, says people who laugh are, like the Dalai Lama, living in the moment.
KATARIA: Joyfulness makes you feel good immediately. It's now and that's what children do. And I want all -- everybody in this world to live like a child now. Just now.
GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Atlanta.
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HOLMES: You want to give it a try? NICOLE LAPIN, CNN.COM DESK: Yeah, I know, I saw that.
HOLMES: Let a good one out.
LAPIN: I'm not going do it.
HOLMES: Go ahead, let a good one out.
LAPIN: No.
HOLMES: Nicole, come on. Let a good laugh out.
LAPIN: I'm going to stick my tongue out at you. You try.
HOLMES: At the camera. Just give a good laugh. It feels good.
LAPIN: It's hard, it's almost uncomfortable. All right.
HOLMES: All right, you're not going play along. All right, but from CNN.ccom Nicole Lapin, if we didn't mention that. Not a lot of happiness on the...
LAPIN: Are you happy? I asked Betty earlier. Betty's happy.
NGUYEN: I'm happy.
HOLMES: I'm OK.
LAPIN: Are you healthy?
HOLMES: I'm OK.
LAPIN: OK, there could be a connection with happiness and your health, well, so say experts and we have a special report for you, T.J., in case you didn't know at CNN.com. Yeah, check it out.
We're all striving to be so, so happy these days. Americans actually spend more than $750 million on those so-called self-help books and, you know what, check out this map because it's actually kind of interesting. It tracks happiness levels in various countries. So on a scale from zero to 10 you can find out that folks in Denmark are actually the happiest with an average score of 8.2. The U.S., came in at No. 5 with an average score of 7.4.
You can also watch some special reports, not the laughing ones. These are different. These inclelude psychologists checking out these people's smiles to see if they're real or if they're fake. They can actually figure that out.
And are you happy at work? Don't answer that, the answer, of course, is yes. Well, you can take this online quiz. It's a link to Eye Opener from our site. We have just a few questions and it determines if you're really happy with your job.
Well, is there a time when you were really happy? Do you have to think about that? Maybe it's with your family, maybe it's while you were watching the game yesterday. You can just tun the camera around and take a picture of yourself, T.J.
HOLMES: I -- just taken a picture. I was doing real well at that time.
LAPIN: Yeah, I'm sure you were. From ear to ear. Well, you can send us those pictures at CNN.com/happiness.
HOLMES: I will do that.
LAPIN: Extra credit for CNN employees.
HOLMES: Really? OK, thank you. I appreciate that. And we don't want to miss Dr. Sanjay Gupta's hour-long special, "Happiness and Your Health." Apparently I need to pay attention to this stuff. We'll take a look at the surprising mind-body connection. That's tonight at 10:00 Eastern, here on CNN.
NGUYEN: All right, speaking of things that make you happy. You like popcorn, right?
HOLMES: The movie popcorn. Love the movie -- love it.
NGUYEN: The movie? The food popcorn.
HOLMES: The movie popcorn, you get at the movie theaters. That popcorn is what I'm talking about.
NGUYEN: Oh, I thought you were talking about the movie. I was like, I've never seen that movie. I don't know what you're talking about.
All right, here's a question for you, though. If someone gave you a free bucket of movie popcorn. Right? Would you eat more just because you were given a larger bucket? Would you? Answer it.
HOLMES: I can't talk anymore. I can't talk.
NGUYEN: OK, we're going to have the answer after this. Apparently we're way happy here.
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HOLMES: Breaking boundaries and racing to the finish. Danica Patrick is the fourth woman only to race ever in the Indianapolis 500. Now some of her tips from the top.
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DANICA PATRICK, RACE CAR DRIVER: There's a lot of people that are good at things, but they're not determined and then they veer off path. I think being determined is a huge quality of a lot of successful people.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Danica Patrick is drive tone succeed. She fell in love with being behind the wheel at age 10 after a go cart lesson and hasn't stopped racing since. In 2005 Patrick became the fourth woman to drive in the Indianapolis 500. She finished in fourth place, the highest position for a female driver. Patrick is able to persevere in a male-dominated sport by seeing herself as just another driver.
PATRICK: You have to just really be confident in what you do and if there's something different about you, just embrace it and use it.
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NGUYEN: Here's some food for thought, if someone gave you a bucket of free popcorn, movie popcorn as T.J. likes to call it, but if it's five days old and tasted like Styrofoam, would you eat more of it because the bucket was huge?
Well, the answer is yes. Yes, you would. According to a Cornell University study the average person ate 35 percent more of the stale popcorn simply because it was in the large bucket. So, is your mind making you fat? Could be. Brian Wansink, author of "Mindless Eating: Why we eat more than we think," joins us from Ithaca, New York.
Thanks for being with us.
BRIAN WANSINK, AUTHOR, "MINDLESS EATING": It's great to be with you.
NGUYEN: Well, let me ask you this, how many food choices do we make a day and how many times are we mindlessly eating? I mean, is it more often than we think?
WANSINK: Well, it's incredible. If you asked the typical person how many times they think about food of make a food decision, they'd say about 15. In reality it's well over 200.
NGUYEN: What?
WANSINK: Most people make -- oh, it's incredible.
NGUYEN: I don't think of food 200 times a day.
WANSINK: No, you don't think about food 200 times a day. You make those decisions 200 times of day that you're not aware of. So, for instance, you decide what cereal to eat this morning, but then you decided whether to have half a bowl or a full bowl or a second bowl. You decide whether you're going to put skim milk or whole milk, whether you're going to put sugar on it. And before you even have a bite to eat you've made about 20 decisions.
NGUYEN: All right, so when it comes to decision making, let's talk about some of the things we do right and we do wrong. In fact, we have some food to kind of illustrate that. When it comes to filling your plate, because you know at those holiday dinners, the buffet is out there, you've this huge spread. I do this. I load it up. I mean, I put on as much as I can on that plate, but really, should you try to do maybe half a plate or do less, smaller portions? I mean, obviously, that's what you need to do, but that's so hard. How do you know?
WANSINK: Well, in the book, "Mindless Eating," we have a lot of ideas about how people can go about portioning less out. One study we did, we gave people simply large plates and medium-sized plates. We found people with the large plates ended up eating 30 percent more food over the course of the meal.
So, one thing you can do at that buffet is just use a smaller plate. Another think you can do...
NGUYEN: Well, see, these plates look the same, that we have, but actually one is a little bit deeper. So a lot of these things your eye doesn't catch it right away. I guess it's part of the mindless eating and you keep filling it and filling it up because there's plenty of room left on the plate.
WANSINK: Well, and absolutely, and you're thinking about 20 other things. You're talking with the relatives; you're talking about the fun stuff that's happening later that day. And you're not paying attention so you simply use these plates as cues as to how much you're going to put on.
NGUYEN: And when you have the cookies and you know, the M&M's and all those things, you just grab a handful, right, and you just keep eating that, but you say it's better to put it in a bowl or some kind of way to measure it?
WANSINK: Well, yeah. If we don't premeasure something out, you don't have to measure it you just have to dish it out on a plate or something like that. What you're going to do is you're going to continue to eat, because there's not going to be any evidence, really, how much you've eaten; you've never actually been able to see how much you had. It's the best thing to do
WANSINK: Yeah, we have some chips right here. So you would say instead of taking these chips individually out of the bag ask shoving them in your mouth, which we love to do, just go ahead and put them in the bowl first because that way you visually can see how much you're eating.
WANSINK: That helps a tremendous amount. The other thing you...
NGUYEN: And what's the half-plate rule that you have going on? What's that all about?
WANSINK: Well, if we can go back to your buffet, one of the things we found in the book is that people have a real hard time figuring out what sorts of food they should be eating and the real easy thing to do is to say look, I've got my Thanksgiving dinner plate, on half the plate I can put anything I want, but on the other half of the plate I have to reserve it for vegetables, fruits, salads and the like. And at least, what you're going to be doing, though you'll eat a lot, at least you're guaranteed you're going to eat about half a plate of good stuff. NGUYEN: You know, this is so controlled, but I have to be honest with you, during the holiday season, all those foods out on the table, I personally feel like, you know what, if I don't eat up, I'm not going see this again for another year. So, let me just go ahead and indulge. And so if you have, you know, grandma over there making these wonderful desserts, you know, these little chocolate-covered pretzels or whatnot, you can't disappoint and say no, I'm not going have any of those. So, what do you do? What's the answer to that?
WANSINK: Well, grandma's not going to remember whether you had 57 pretzels at one time or not, but she going to remember whether you went back for seconds and thirds. So, one think you can do with your grandmother is you can, as the book says, you can use something called a "unitary bias." You can have one, then go back and as you have a second one actually point out to her, that wow, these are so good, I'm having seconds. She won't remember you only had two, she will remember you went back a seconds or thirds, though.
NGUYEN: One pretzel, come on, that's so hard. I'll try it and see, but that's very difficult to do. But really, it's just about being really mindful of what you're eating and especially the portions. That's the bottom line here, correct?
WANSINK: Yes. No, no, it's not being mindful. It's about, essentially, changing your environment so you can be mindless. We don't want to go through life concentrating on food, you just want to just set things up with smaller plates, put thing off the sideboard with the candy dish six feet away. All those are just to eat 20 to 30 percent less without us having to think about it at all.
NGUYEN: Wow, that's the easiest way to be, right? Just go ahead and shove it in, but make sure you're not shoving too much in. Don't get too large of a portion.
WANSINK: Yeah -- that's true. We want to mindlessly eat less and mindlessly enjoy it more.
NGUYEN: All right.
WANSINK: Thanksgiving, I mean, the last thing you want to do is go on a diet on thanksgiving.
NGUYEN: Exactly, it's so hard to do. All right. I tell you this, I'm not going to go on a diet this Thanksgiving. I'm going to partake, but I will try and be smart about it. We thank you so much for your time today. Appreciate it.
WANSINK: It's great to be here.
HOLMES: "Now in the News," a suicide car bomb kills 17 people south of Baghdad this morning. The bomber apparently targeted day laborers who crowded around the car before it exploded.
And inside Baghdad, at least 10 people are dead following three car bombings at a bus station. President Bush arrived in Ho Chi Minh City about two hours ago, it's the city once known as Saigon. Earlier, the president and Pacific Rim leaders wrapped up in the economic summit in Vietnam's capitol of Hanoi.
The Israeli military calls off an airstrike in Gaza after hundreds of Palestinians make themselves human shields. The protestors gathered outside the home of a militant leader after Israel warned him that an attack was coming. A military spokeswoman says they cancelled the strike to avoid hurting innocent people.
At least a half million dollars, that's the official estimate of damage caused by Thursday's tornado in southeastern, North Carolina. The storm left eight people dead in the town of Regalwood. Assessment teams says more than three dozen homes were damaged or destroyed.
And we run down the top stories every 15 minutes on CNN SUNDAY MORNING with in-depth coverage for you all morning long. Your next check of the headlines coming to you at the top of the hour.
But, at this time it's time for us to check in with Howard Kurtz, he's in Washington, going to see what's ahead on CNN's RELIABLE SOURCES.
Good morning to you, Howard.
HOWARD KURTZ, RELIABLE SOURCES: Good morning. Coming up, what could FOX executives be thinking by putting on that O.J. Simpson special and are the rest of the media helping to publicize it even as they denounce it?
The press turns on Nancy Pelosi and digs into Jack Murtha's ethical problems, but where were those stories before the election?
Plus the special conversation with CBS' Morley Saffer, Byron Pitts, and Bob Schaeffer on the legacy of Ed Bradley. That and more ahead on RELIABLE SOURCES.
HOLMES: All right, Howard. We'll see you here shortly and again we'll see you at the top of the hour, 10 a.m. Eastern for RELIABLE SOURCES, that's followed by Wolf Blitzer and LATE EDITION at 11:00 and then THIS WEEK AT WAR coming up at 1:00, so stay tuned to CNN as we go in-depth into the stories of the day.
NGUYEN: Speaking of stories, it's a funny short tradition.
HOLMES: Yeah, but some world leaders not really laughing about this. We'll tell you who's comfortable and who's not so comfortable in this custom-made gown, I guess, maybe?
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NGUYEN: This just in to CNN, an emergency landing at Japan's airport outside Tokyo, Air Canada Flight 38 on its way to Vancouver from the Chinese city of Shanghai had to land after hitting severe turbulence. Now, four passengers, as we know, are hurt. We're still checking this story and as soon as we get more information we'll bring it to you.
HOLMES: They call it a class photo. Check them out there -- and President Bush is in there as well. Anybody look a little bit uncomfortable in that picture to you? Leaders at the Economic Summit smile for the camera while wearing traditional Vietnamese gowns and as CNN's Dan Rivers reports, it's a tradition that doesn't always wear so well.
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DAN RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): After days of serious diplomacy over trade, security, and development, in the end what we'll all rember of this year's APEC is the final group photo. It's become a ritual humiliation on the summit circuit, President Bush seemed barely able to stand still, such was his discomfort.
It's the same each area, garish costumes and embarrassed politicians, gleeful press. This was china, 2001. The next year in Mexico they wore the traditional guayabera shirt for a seaside snack. Jiang Zemin looking like he'd rather be anywhere but here.
In 2003, President Bush's is trying to hide on the back row. We know you're there, Mr. President, and yes, we can see what you're wearing. Chile, the next year, enough said. And last year, in south on Korea, it was this floor-length number.
And this is what they're wearing this year. Traditional Vietnamese gowns, don't adjust your TV these really are the colors. Each is individually embroidered and each comes with its own accessories, a matching hat complete with its own little bag. Designer Minh Hanh gave me a tour of her creations amid a flurry of last-minute alterations for her very powerful customers.
(on camera): Who would normally wear these garments, traditionally?
MINH HANH, APEC SHIRT DESIGNER: Yeah. The king and hero, queen and the first lady.
RIVERS: What's fascinating about these garments is what they tell us about the leaders that are going to wear them. For example, a lot of the men opted for this slightly more sober blue, they all wanted to look the same. But the women went for much more vibrant tones. A couple of the leaders didn't want to wear the matching hats that come with the garments because they were worried they were going to look a bit silly, and interestingly, President Bush was too busy to have any sort of fitting at all.
And did their personality come out when they did the fitting?
Well, were some of them funny? Were some of them very serious?
HANH: All of them is serious.
RIVERS: Oh, really?
(voice-over): But, really, how can you be serious when you look like this?
Dan Rivers, CNN, Hanoi.
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NGUYEN: I don't know. I mean, those are traditional gowns, it's part of the culture, celebrating the culture. It's fine.
HOLMES: They're nice. You should get me one.
NGUYEN: I'm sure I can work on that for you.
HOLMES: RELIABLE SOURCES is coming up next followed by LATE EDITION and THIS WEEK AT WAR. Don't go anywhere.
NGUYEN: No, don't go anywhere and we'll have your top stories after this short break. Have a great Sunday.
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DANIEL SIEBERG, CNN TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: A group of scientists were studying human brain tumors when they stumbled across something totally unexpected. Venom from a scorpion might help cure cancer.
DR. JOHN FIVEASH, DEPT OF RADIATION ONCOLOGY: They realized it would bind to a variety of tumor types, particularly malignant brain tumors and didn't bind to the normal tissue including the normal brain. It was further tested and found out that it would stop brain tumors from growing.
SIEBERG: So they began producing synthetic venom in the lab, targeting it with radioactive iodine and injecting it directly into the space from which the tumor was removed.
FIVEASH: So, we looked at other methods -- other ways that we could deliver this drug and we'd also like to be able to treat different types of tumors, not just brain tumors because this will bind to best cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancers.
SIEBERG: The drug is still in clinical trials, but TransMolecular Incorporated, hopes to have the drug on the market within five years.
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