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Aired February 04, 2007 - 22:00 ET
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TYRA BANKS, "THE TYRA BANKS SHOW": To all of you that have something nasty to say about me or other women that are built like me, women that sometimes or all the time look like this...
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SANCHEZ: From the runway to your driveway, Tyra reaches out and takes on a weighty cause. Definitely not model behavior.
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CHARLIZE THERON, ACTRESS: Well, I would argue that there's a lack of freedom in America.
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SANCHEZ: Charlize Theron on politics, patriotism, and passion. And then this...
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THERON: I want to make out with you right now.
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SANCHEZ: Right now?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When the papers came in, I saw this picture of Dahmer and I started creeping out. I just - this is the guy, this is the guy I saw in the (INAUDIBLE)."
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SANCHEZ: One of the most notorious serial killers, one of the most notorious child murders, is there a link?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He just filled teeth. I mean, his front teeth is about that long.
(END VIDEO CLIP) SANCHEZ: Hello kitty. One man pushes the limit to keep this cat in the wild. Talk about having nine lives. This is the CNN NEWSROOM.
And hello again, everybody. I'm Rick Sanchez. And we're going to begin with a story that's got a lot of us here shaking our heads, wondering if it could possibly be true. Could Jeffrey Dahmer, a serial killer and cannibal, really be the man who murdered little Adam Walsh? He was the son of John Walsh of "America's Most Wanted" as you may probably know.
Well, judge four yourself as you watch this report from Colleen Henry from our Milwaukee affiliate WISN.
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ARTHUR JAY HARRIS, AUTHOR: The official line is he didn't kill. And the official line is what Jeffrey said. Now should we believe that?
COLLEEN HENRY, WISN NEWS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Arthur Jay Harris is a freelance writer, who's published three true crimes books. Harris started looking at the Walsh case back in 1996 after a landmark legal ruling opened the 10,000 page Walsh file to the public. The Dahmer angle intrigued him. He started digging. Harris just finished a book about Dahmer and recently laid out his case in "The Miami Daily." The (INAUDIBLE) book puts Jeffrey Dahmer at the Hollywood mall and the suspected getaway car on the day Adam Walsh disappeared.
HARRIS: One of the reasons the police believe Dahmer that he didn't kill Adam because he said he didn't have a vehicle.
DARLENE HILL, DAHMER'S FORMER BOSS: This blue van had a crate for a passenger seat.
HENRY: Harris located Darlene Hill, a former owner of the restaurant where Dahmer worked. Hill tells 12 News the business had three delivery vehicles. One was a blue van. Several witnesses reported seeing a blue van speed from the mall that day. Hill said employees often took the blue van for personal use.
HILL: Somebody would take the van and not come back with it for two days.
HENRY: Harris then found Dahmer's boss at the restaurant, who Harris says shows Dahmer lied to Hollywood police.
HARRIS: He said he worked seven days a week at the sub shop. No and no. All day and all night. So that was another reason he wouldn't possibly have had an opportunity. Well, the guy who hired him said that he worked maybe 20 hours a week. Late morning to late afternoon, five days a week. So that's not true.
HENRY: Also buried in the Walsh file, Harris found two statements, witnesses who say they saw Dahmer at the mall the day Adam disappeared. For the first time, both men shared their stories on television. WILLIS MORGAN, DAHMER WITNESS: And I had a sense someone was staring at me.
HENRY: Willis Morgan says he was shopping when a dirty disshelved guy in his 20s started hitting on him. Morgan was a buff blond in 1981, the Chippendale dancer type Dahmer repeatedly told cops was his type.
MORGAN: I didn't answer him. And he says hi, there, nice day, isn't it? And I still didn't answer him. And then the smile went off his face and he had this like look of anger. And I was just like looking at him. You know, I didn't know what this guy was up to. And then all of a sudden, that look went to like rage. I mean, it was just an unbelievable look. I mean, I had to look away.
HENRY: Morgan says he followed the man into the Sears store and lost him in the toy department, the last place Adam was seen alive.
10 years later, Morgan was at his printer job at "The Miami Herald" proofing the morning paper.
MORGAN: When the papers came in, I saw this picture of Dahmer and I started freaking out. I said this is the guy, this is the guy I saw in the mall.
HENRY: Around the same time, another man was shocked to see Dahmer's picture in the paper.
BILL BOWEN, DAHMER WITNESS: That Sunday in 1991, when the picture of Dahmer came out, it hit me like a baseball bat.
HENRY: Bill Bowen says he just pulled into the Sears parking lot that day in '81 when he witnessed an explosive scene.
BOWEN: There was a man holding a little boy by one arm up in the air. And the boy was struggling. And the little boy was saying, I don't want to go. I'm not going.
HENRY: Adam's father, "America's Most Wanted" host John Walsh, said Dahmer deserves a second look.
JOHN WALSH, ADAM WALSH'S FATHER: Even though it's a cold case, people have come forward who are claiming one thing, who were saying we weren't taken seriously back 25, 26 years ago. So I think that they have to look at this case.
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SANCHEZ: Colleen Henry is good enough to join us now. She's a reporter with WISN. As a matter of fact, you're going to see her in the shot here. I know it looks a little weird. She's holding a phone up to her ear, because we're having a little bit of audio problems, but we want to get the information from her.
HENRY: I'm sure, it's the (INAUDIBLE).
SANCHEZ: Exactly.
Hey, Colleen. Thanks a lot. Let me ask you this first. Dahmer, according to police, copped to most of his crimes. Why wouldn't he have copped to this?
HENRY: That's the obvious question. You know, but the other thing that you have to consider is Dahmer was a notorious liar. You remember, there was one kid who actually got away from Dahmer, ran to the police. And Dahmer came out and convinced them that this was a lover's quarrel and that he should have it back. And the police gave it to him.
So you know, he was a prolific liar and a very successful liar. You ask yourself why he wouldn't have copped to it. Good question. I'll tell you, the police officer, the detective who took his confession, 170 hours with Dahmer, told me that he believes Dahmer told everything but he did say he wasn't always truthful. In fact, when it came to talking about his cannibalism, he didn't come clean right away.
Finally, they got him to admit that he did eat some of his victims. And they said, you know, why did you lie about that? And he said I didn't want you to think less of me.
SANCHEZ: Wow, what...
HENRY: So you know, in his mind, there was just, you know, God knows what he was thinking.
SANCHEZ: Here's the $60,000 question. If this author and these reports seem to indicate that there's a connection, why wouldn't police know about this connection? Why wouldn't they be all over these witnesses? And how credible are these witnesses?
HENRY: Well, you know, that's a good question, Rick. Actually, both of those witnesses that you've just heard from say they went to the police in 1981 after this encounter at the mall, but there's no record of it. Hollywood police will tell you there is no log at all of the early tips. They said that this was very overwhelming to them, had never had a situation where there was a child who had been abducted.
And you remember this Adam Walsh case is the one that changed the way police all across the country handle missing children.
SANCHEZ: Sure do. Covered myself, yes.
HENRY: It really was kind of a big - well, yes, a big deal, big deal. And they weren't sure how to handle it.
In fact, John Walsh in his book often said, you know, he became so frustrated, he'd see cops taking down tips on matchbook covers. And obviously, they never made it into the file. Hollywood police told us that no, they don't even have a log of those early tips.
In 1991, Dahmer's picture shows up on the front page of every newspaper in America. And these two guys, one in Birmingham, Alabama and one in South Florida, again, again, call the cops and say, hey, that guy I told you about 10 years ago, that's the guy on the front page of the paper.
Now of course, police told them at that time, why didn't you call me 10 years ago? We had no record of it.
So you know, these guys say they were contemporaneous in their reporting. They followed up 10 years later. They are fairly credible in that their statements to do not vary, at least the statements they made to me do not vary from the ones in the police file from 1991.
So you know, they've been saying the same thing all along as far as I can tell. The question is cops have talked to them. They both say cops dismissed them as if, you know, hey, we appreciate what you had to say, but you know, two eyewitnesses really don't close a homicide case.
And keep in mind, eyewitness identification is among the most unreliable evidence there is. It's used every day at courtrooms across America, but there are problems with it.
SANCHEZ: Fascinating story. Well, keep on it. Colleen, we certainly thank you. And good phone service there in Milwaukee. We appreciate it.
HENRY: Yes, a ham and a plugger. We did - Rick, this was an 11- minute piece. And we keep getting calls from people saying, you know, how do I get the full thing? Go to the milwaukeechannel.com. You'll see all 11 minutes. You'll see all the other witnesses and people that we talked to, even the naysayers. You'll hear from both sides of the story, so...
SANCHEZ: We'll check on it ourselves. Thanks so much.
Well, detectives have been working on the Adam Walsh case, as you know, for 26 years now. It's been 16 years since the Dahmer case came to light in Milwaukee.
A year later, he was convicted of killing 15 people, but confessed to 17 murders. 1994, he was beaten to death by a fellow inmate at a Wisconsin prison.
Now Dahmer's crimes involve necrophilia, dismemberment, and cannibalism. I know, the kind of words you don't usually use when it comes to crimes every day. His known victims ranged in age from 14 to 36. And there you have the facts.
Now we want to hear from you. It's tonight's last call. This is where you call us and tell us what you think. Should police be taking a second look at this now after hearing and watching Colleen's piece? Give us a call right here. It's 1-800-807-2620. 1-800-807-2620. And we're going to air some of your responses later during this hour.
What if you could virtually erase 20 years worth of bad habits?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You sure don't want one to help you relax?
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SANCHEZ: We're going to show you how in 12 minutes.
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THERON: When you live in a country with turmoil, that's something that's -- it's your everyday life. And that is always the hot topic of discussion.
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SANCHEZ: She's beautiful, passionate, and opinionated and willing to go right for a guy's libido. You'll hear it for yourself.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm scared. He was hissing and pawing at us.
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SANCHEZ: Here kitty, here kitty, maybe not. The fur was really flying in Kansas. This story might have you hurrying. After the break.
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SANCHEZ: And as we roll along on this Sunday night, we welcome you back to the feed room. This is where we get stories and a lot of the videos from all over the world and all over the country. We were going to start with this one. This is in Little Rock, Arkansas.
He's holding a little boy, that rescuer. As you see, we've blurred his face because we certainly don't want to identify him. He walked across from his family's home. And there was a pond there, fell through the ice. He was under water for as long as two hours, if you can believe that.
And that's the miraculous part of this story. We just called the hospital and they're saying that he's in critical condition, of course. And that he's getting better. But he's still alive.
We checked with some experts. And they tell us that this is something that often happens with little kids when they follow through the ice. They're more apt to survive because of a condition that allows their tissue to literally stay alive for a longer period of time.
Let's take you to another story now. This is in Jakarta. This is, of course, the capital of Indonesia. And this is what it looks like on this day. Unbelievable, really, if you look at the pictures. 20 people have already been killed as a result of this flooding. We also understand that 340,000 other people have been left homeless. And the meteorologists in this region are saying there's a real good possibility that they're going to get even more rain in the coming days.
Maybe one of the most unbelievable stories is this one only because somebody found something they didn't expect to find. And that is it. You're looking at it.
The man's name is Ernest Edwards. And he lives in Kansas City, Missouri. And he put a trap in the backyard because his ducks were all disappearing. And he wanted to know what was doing this. Well, you know, he knows. We all know. That is a bobcat, to his surprise. When they asked him what he thinks they should do with the bobcat, he said this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I mean, the right thing to do was try to find somebody that knew what to do with him.
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SANCHEZ: In other words, he didn't want to kill it. He wants the thing to be taken care of.
You know what else we're going to be following today? Some of the pictures that have been coming to us as well from a situation that's starting to develop in Florida after the storm. How are people surviving? We'll take you to a church and we're going to tell you how they survive there.
In the meantime, there it is, our feed room. This is the CNN NEWSROOM. We'll be right back.
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ROGER GANTNER, SR., TORNADO SURVIVOR: I've got so many friends. And I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm in a daze. And I got so many people who love us to death and have called us from all over from everywhere. And I appreciate everything, prayers and everything people have sent to us. And we'll get back somehow or another.
LAURA GANTNER, TORNADO SURVIVOR: We really can't make a decision until we take care of now.
R. GANTNER: My mom would take care of...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And what I understand is too that your father just found out that your mother died and that he was now anxious and he wants to get out of the hospital.
R. GANTNER: Absolutely. And I told him we'd take the journey up there and -- for -- to bury my mom.
(END VIDEO CLIP) SANCHEZ: Your heart just goes out to him. Doesn't it? Raw emotion. You can hear it in their voices and see it in their faces. And they've been hearing before.
Remember, Florida gets hit constantly by hurricanes. And now we see this string of tornadoes like this one. But what about those who didn't have any insurance? We go to this story again. What happens to them?
Here is CNN's Susan Candiotti.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We were able to cut the trees away.
CANDIOTTI (voice-over): Sometimes it's hard to think about insurance when you're still reeling from what once was.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Our house is right here. We were one of the lucky ones.
CANDIOTTI: I'll say.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just lost some part of the roof and the screen room. And a broken window on the back and one in the kitchen here.
CANDIOTTI: Louise Ogiter (ph) will have to pay for the repairs on her own.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And we have no insurance because they told us our trailer was too old. And they canceled just two years ago.
CANDIOTTI: The Hicklings' mobile home next door is a total loss and like their neighbors, they have also been living without insurance. Told their home built in 1979 was too old, too risky to ensure. They took their chances and lost.
Are you going to buy a new one?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Probably not. We'll probably buy a house some place if we buy again. Because these mobile homes might not be that sturdy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As long as we can get one new enough so they'll insure it. That's the main thing.
CANDIOTTI: For now relatives are loaning the Hicklings a camper. For those without backup plans, FEMA is now taking claims. Nikki Rainey, nursing a broken foot from the tornado, came looking for help.
Do you feel they'll come through?
NIKKI RAINEY, TORNADO VICTIM: I hope so. They have numbers for me to call.
CANDIOTTI: You're optimistic?
RAINEY: I'm optimistic. I'm alive. Everything else can be replaced. It doesn't matter.
With the inspections that were conducted yesterday, I would imagine the treasurer will have the checks printed and sent out Monday and maybe some of the first checks start arriving by mail on Tuesday.
CANDIOTTI: And in the middle of destruction, sitting outside what was their mother's home, Shawn and James Tooley (ph) are waiting for the insurance adjuster, time to allow themselves to think about something else. Let's say a certain football game.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What else are you going to think about on a day like today? If you're not thinking about this, you might as well think about the Super Bowl.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Take your mind off of this.
CANDIOTTI (on camera): FEMA says because there are enough temporary housing options in this area, such as motels and apartments to rent, there are no immediate plans to bring in trailers.
Susan Candiotti, CNN, Lady Lake, Florida.
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SANCHEZ: Well, certainly the storm has passed, but the danger remains. Jagged edges, rusty nails, unsafe water just to name a few. Nurses are now going door to door, we understand in some of the hardest hit areas, offering aid to storm victims and recovery workers as well. Tetanus shots for anybody who hasn't had one yet.
And among the most popular handouts, bottled water and hand sanitizers.
You know in many ways, the Lady Lake Church of God has come to symbolize the resilience after this storm. You've been seeing it on our air. Parishioners holding their service amid the ruins today. Outdoors, because their sanctuary was destroyed.
Here's CNN's Susan Roesgen.
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SUSAN ROESGEN, CNN GULF COAST CORRESPONDENT (voice over): As the choir praised the rock of Christ, Pastor Larry Lynn stood in the rubble of his church, the first service here since Friday's tornado.
PASTOR LARRY LYNN, CHURCH OF GOD: We look not at the things that are seen, but we look at the things that are not seen. The things that are seen are temporal, are temporary, but the things that are not seen are eternal. ROSENTHAL: In the past, Lady Lake Church of God had been a storm shelter built to withstand 150-mile-an-hour winds. Now the faithful see a deeper meaning in its destruction.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We don't need the building to have church. You know?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Amen.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We've got Jesus. When we've got Jesus, we don't need the building.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Amen. We just proved it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I felt compelled to come back and just support the church -- that this is where I got saved, right here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just have to thank the lord that we made it through. And we will pick up from this. And we will go on.
ROSENTHAL: Out of respect for the 20 people killed by the tornado, Florida Governor Charlie Crist joined the congregation and canceled his trip to the Super Bowl.
GOV. CHARLIE CRIST (R), FLORIDA: That's why we'll be here and we'll worship today for them. They are in a better place.
ROSENTHAL: Pastor Lynn says the church will be rebuilt, even though he says it's not the physical building that makes a church, it's the people.
Susan Roesgen, CNN, Lady Lake, Florida.
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SANCHEZ: We welcome you back. And as we talk about Florida, we also have to talk about something else today. We're going to have to talk about the Midwest. As a matter of fact, the pride of Minnesota is there standing behind me. There she is. Are you smiling yet? She's going to be telling us about the situation that's taking place in Chicago and also in Minneapolis, where -- below zero?
JACQUI JERAS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: In Minneapolis? Absolutely, wind chills in the 20s to 40s below 0 in some parts of Minnesota tonight.
SANCHEZ: Can't wait to hear about it. You'll see it right here. Stay with us.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it might stop a couple of kids, but not all of them.
(END VIDEO CLIP) SANCHEZ: Also this, temptations and tough choices. All teens face them. Now one school is stepping in. Is it a case of protecting kids or invading their privacy? If you're a parent, you might want to see this and then you'll be able to decide in 10 minutes.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One of the rooms taught me how I could be there, smell the smoke, and still resist smoking. And I'm able to do that now.
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SANCHEZ: And next, a virtual world, but the vices are real. We're going to take you to a smoke-free tour. That's right.
And don't forget tonight answer last call. It's about a new report citing a possible link between serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer and murdered child Adam Walsh. Should police be taking a second look at this? We want you to give us a call. 1-800-807-2620. 1-800-807- 2620. And hear what you say and others like you later in the news cast.
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SANCHEZ: There it is. You're looking at us. It's the CNN NEWSROOM. Welcome back. I'm Rick Sanchez.
You've heard the expression, light up, smoke them if you got them. Well, for millions, that's an irresistible invitation.
But what if you could get off of cigarettes by going online? A video game of sorts, where you're the player in your own life. This is groundbreaking studies that have been done with virtual reality. A way to quit. And you'll see it only on CNN.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Welcome to the party. I'm Greg and this is Carol. What's your name?
DAVID: David.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Great to meet you.
SANCHEZ: Inviting attractive hosts, a hip loft. Could be Manhattan. Maybe Seattle. But the goal at this party isn't to make new friends. It's to face temptation and beat it.
DAVID COSANCHEZ: Feel free to look around. You see chips.
SANCHEZ: David Cox is a CNN staffer who's been trying to quit smoking for years now. He hooks up to a device that allows him to enter a virtual world.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would you care join us? COSANCHEZ: No, thank you. I'm trying to quit.
That's a great job. Way to go. We can do that. And often, people just won't stop there. If they know you're a smoker, let's say it's friends of yours, they may try to up sort of their pressure on you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: : Are you trying to quit?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're again inquiring. You told them you're quitting.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've quit many times. Why don't you just have a cigarette with us?
COSANCHEZ: And I've tried the patch. I've tried cold turkey. I've tried having other people hold my cigarettes for me.
SANCHEZ: The study's investigators didn't want us filming actual patients, because the camera's presence they thought could prejudice the results. So we used David to show you what it's really like.
The patients have 10 weekly sessions with a therapist to discuss coping techniques. What to say to people who offer you a smoke, what to tell yourself when you're tempted.
PATRICK BORDNICK, DR., UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA: We can stop someone from having nicotine withdrawal with like a nicotine, patch but they still need to go into work and walk past smokers on their way into the building. They still need to drive in a car. So if they smoked in a car, we need to teach them other non-smoking behaviors and coping skills.
SANCHEZ: Then the patients try those techniques out in the virtual world. All the while, they're wearing nicotine patches to help them deal with their chemical withdrawal.
Clara Williams is a heart attack survivor who smoked for 25 years. She said struggled with chronic asthma and bronchitis. She tried patches, medication, even cold turkey, but none of it seemed to work until she went virtual.
CLARA WILLIAMS, STUDY PARTICIPANT: One of the rooms taught me how I could be there, smell the smoke, and still resist smoking. And I'm able to do that now. I can be in the room with four or five people smoking. And I don't light up.
SANCHEZ: Now 12 weeks later, her blood pressure has dropped drastically. In fact, doctors have taken her off half her medication. And she hasn't had a single cigarette.
WILLIAMS: My children are very happy for me, because they figure they're going to have me around a couple more years.
SANCHEZ: Back at the lab, David had his strongest cravings when he was stuck in virtual traffic. COSANCHEZ: That's a distracting thought.
SANCHEZ: Did that sort of make you angry?
COSANCHEZ: Yes. That, it did.
SANCHEZ: You could see David balling up his fists. It's that real for him.
COSANCHEZ: When that horn hit, the anger shot up and the desire for a cigarette shot up right with it.
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SANCHEZ: Isn't that amazing? By the way, it's going to be a couple years before you can actually get virtual reality counseling for yourself.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't like how they try to put a leash on us all the time. Like give us some space to make our own decisions.
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SANCHEZ: A leash? Well, teens and booze a dangerous combination we all know. Well, now one school wants to get into the mix. It's uncorking a new and, some say, a controversial rule.
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THERON: I think we tend to think that problems are always across a lot of water and not really anything that reflects on us.
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SANCHEZ: Is she beautiful or what? That's actor and activist Charlize Theron. She's not holding back about a unique comparative criticism of the United States and about wanting to kiss me. I know, it sounds weird. We're going to explain though, we promise.
By the way, this is Indianapolis. Yes, congratulations, you've finally done it. You took the monkey off your back. You won! We know. We'll be hearing about Peyton Manning and watching the commercials from here to kingdom come. We'll be back.
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SANCHEZ: OK. Here we go.
I'm a parent, so I get this one. I think you will, too. Be honest for just a second.
Do you really know how your teenager spent this weekend? Was he hanging with some of his friends? Was he at a Super Bowl party?
Well, here's some facts for you to consider. This is something we've been looking into the last couple of weeks.
According to a news survey, three-quarters of all teens who say they drank say they had done so at their friend's house or at social events. And the CDC found that when teens do drink, they often binge drink, and that means they drink too much, they drink too fast.
With those facts in hand, and plenty of others in mind, a high school in New Jersey says, we've had enough. It's taking extraordinary measures, measures you may not agree with.
Len Turner from our affiliate News 12 from New Jersey brings us this.
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LEN TURNER, REPORTER, NEWS 12 (voice over): Students at Pequannock Township High facing a new pop quiz -- a random test that shows if they've had a drink in the past three days. The idea is to cut down on teen alcohol use, party on Friday or Saturday night, and test positive on Monday.
COSIMO LATERZALLY, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT: I think it might stop a couple of kids, but not all of them.
TURNER: The tests get a chilly reception from some students. These freshmen say they don't drink but plenty of their classmates do.
TYLER HOGAN, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT: A lot of kids who actually drink probably think it's, like, violating their privacy and stuff, but there's probably just some kids who just think it's good because they have to stop the drinking somehow.
TURNER: Pequannock schools already conduct random stress for drugs. The district calls alcohol abuse among its students a serious concern. But some older students say they think the real problem is a lack of trust.
KEITH MARTINEZ, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT: I just don't like how they try to put a leash on us all the time. Give us some space to make our own decisions and choose whether to drink or not.
TURNER: Students who fail the test won't face discipline, at least not at school. Instead, they face a phone call home to mom or dad.
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SANCHEZ: Well, we're not finished with this subject, not by a long shot. We thought it was interesting, so we wanted to bring you some comparative analysis. How is that for a good term?
Two guests with me now from both sides of this teen testing issue. Marsha Rosenbaum, she's with Drug Policy Alliance. She's good enough to talk with us.
Thanks for being with us. She's against testing the kids randomly, by the way.
And this is the principal, Chris Steffner. She's from Colts Neck High in New Jersey. That school is also testing its teens.
Madame Principal, I want to know, what are the parents, what are the kids saying to you about this rule?
CHRIS STEFFNER, PRINCIPAL, COLTS NECK HIGH SCHOOL: Well, we actually haven't started testing our students. We're still in dialogue. But I think that we realize we've -- we've really spent the last 30 years trying to find ways to keep our children off drugs and alcohol. We have developed student assistance programs, we hire student assistant counselors.
SANCHEZ: And, what, it's not working?
STEFFNER: Well, some of those things do work and they've been effective. But we lose thousands of kids every single year to drug and alcohol use.
SANCHEZ: So...
STEFFNER: And so, we need to find more ways to try and get that message across.
SANCHEZ: OK. So tell me how this is exactly going to work in your school. Randomly they'll be taken out of class and say, we're going to test you, and they have to go to the bathroom? Or what?
STEFFNER: Well, whenever a student has a random -- whenever a school has a random drug testing program, the student is just called down, a number is picked through an Excel number generator or some other random program. They come down, and they submit to a urinalysis with the school nurse.
They provide a sample from behind a closed door, and then it goes through a series of tests. It's tested on site. Then it goes out for confirmation test. And no action is taken until it's then reviewed by a medical review officer.
SANCHEZ: All right.
Marsha Rosenbaum, you're going to tell me, I bet, this is an invasion of those children's privacy, right?
MARSHA ROSENBAUM, DRUG POLICY ALLIANCE: Well, what I'm going to tell you is that this is a policy which is being pushed by both the Bush administration and the drug testing industry, which has a lot to gain from it that has not been proven...
SANCHEZ: Really? So wait. So wait, wait, wait. I'm going to stop you right there.
You're saying the real reason they're doing this is just economics, good old-fashioned "we're going to make some money off of this"?
ROSENBAUM: Well, certainly the drug testing industry has everything to gain, but...
SANCHEZ: But you think that's -- you think that's the real motivation behind this?
ROSENBAUM: Well, of course. You know, we all would like our kids to be safe. But the point is that you don't embark on a program which runs counter to what our own federal government research has told us...
SANCHEZ: Which is?
ROSENBAUM: ... which is that there's no difference in drug use between schools that test and do not test.
STEFFNER: Marsha, there is no research that shows that.
ROSENBAUM: Real prevention -- real drug -- real drug abuse prevention is about four things. It's about quality drug education.
STEFFNER: Which we provide.
ROSENBAUM: It's about counseling when that is available, more counseling. It's about after-school programs and beefing-up programs that make -- help kids to thrive, and it's about parental involvement.
SANCHEZ: Marsha, I'm going to stop you for a minute.
ROSENBAUM: Drug testing does none of this.
SANCHEZ: Let me do this -- let me let the principal have her say here.
Go ahead.
STEFFNER: And when all those things don't work, Marsha, as they haven't -- they have been somewhat effective, but we lose thousands of kids every single year -- you have to look for other tools. You just can't continue to do the same things.
ROSENBAUM: I don't think...
STEFFNER: And we know from the research -- we know from the research we're providing plenty of those activities. And students are still using drugs and alcohol.
The study that you speak of has been exposed for not being a reliable, valid research tool. It did not compare random student directing testing, and it didn't differentiate between under suspicion or schools that do one-time testing.
SANCHEZ: No filibustering now.
Go ahead, Marsha. We're down to 20 seconds. We'll split that as best we can -- go ahead.
ROSENBAUM: This is the largest -- 90,000 kids in this study by seasoned, credible researchers. It's the best study we have. We need to keep trying.
STEFFNER: No, you need to look at the...
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ROSENBAUM: We need to keep parents engaged. Drug testing is not the way to go.
SANCHEZ: That's the last word. We'll have to stop it there because my producer is telling me we won't be able to get the rest of the news on.
We thank you, guys, for being with us.
STEFFNER: Thank you, Rick.
SANCHEZ: It really is...
ROSENBAUM: Thank you, Rick.
SANCHEZ: No, it's a fascinating argument and, you know, good points to consider on both sides.
We thank you, both Marsha and Principal Chris Steffner. Marsha Rosenbaum, by the way.
You know, it was supposed to be a routine procedure done for the right reasons. So why did a teenager's nose job go wrong?
CNN investigates.
And then Tyra Banks, man, she turns up the heat and the language. She's angry. She really gives you the skinny on her weight and what people have been saying about it. She's fed up. And you're going to hear her screams and her cries.
Stay with us.
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SANCHEZ: Welcome back. I'm in the control room now.
I'm Rick Sanchez, with some of the people who put this news cast together, who, you might say, really put it together.
Time for a serious reality check now. And you're going to want to pay specific attention if you're even considering cosmetic surgery to this story.
This is a story about a girl you see in this pictures. It's an 18-year-old New Yorker. Her name is Mor Glisko. She did what millions of people around the world do every year. She went in for what's probably the most common, most routine plastic surgery. But what happened to Mor Glisko was anything but routine.
Here is Fredricka Whitfield taking it from there.
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TALLY GLISKO, MOR GLISKO'S MOTHER: You see her (INAUDIBLE)? Everything was organized.
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): For Tally Glisko, it's painful to go through her daughter Mor's room, untouched since the day she left for nose surgery last November.
GLISKO: 11/21/2006 was the last thing that she was writing.
WHITFIELD: Mor Glisko was an 18-year-old honor student with dreams of becoming a corporate lawyer. She thought a routine nose procedure might help correct damage caused from a car accident.
GLISKO: It was a gift to fix her nose that was broken in the accident. It was -- it was very damaging, the accident.
WHITFIELD: Glisko took her daughter to Dr. Yoel Shahar's office in Manhattan. She says the doctor assured her there was nothing to worry about.
GLISKO: One, two, three, she makes (ph) the surgery, she go into a recovery room. After two hours, she's in the house.
WHITFIELD: Glisko left the doctor's office briefly, only to return to a nightmare.
GLISKO: And the doctor came from the other room -- other room and told me, "Tally, I'm sorry. Your daughter's heart stopped beating."
WHITFIELD: While in Dr. Shahar's office, Mor went into a coma. She was rushed to the hospital, where she later died. Glisko said some three months later she still doesn't know the details of what happened that day.
GLISKO: Dr. Shahar blamed the anesthesiologist, Dr. James Spencer -- James Spencer blamed Yoel Shahar.
WHITFIELD: The Gliskos are suing both doctors, and the New York State Health Department is investigating. CNN asked both doctors for on-camera interviews, but both declined, instead providing these statements through their lawyers...
"We have extended our condolences to the Glisko family. Dr. Shahar is a fine surgeon, and this is a tragedy for everyone involved. He did nothing wrong."
"Dr. Spencer's heart goes out to the parents of this child, he did nothing wrong. It appears there was an allergic reaction to one of the medications."
Dr. Andrew Jacono is a board-certified plastic surgeon who performs roughly 2,000 cosmetic procedures a year. He says rhinoplasty is typically a very safe procedure.
DR. ANDREW JACONO, PLASTIC SURGEON: Elective cosmetic surgery is generally procedures that don't involve vital organs. They don't involve manipulations of portions of the body that could cause somebody to die. So nobody should die from cosmetic surgery.
WHITFIELD: That's a hard statement for Glisko to accept as she still mourns the loss of her daughter.
Fredricka Whitfield, CNN.
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SANCHEZ: And now what we're going to do is bring you some news out of Hollywood. Really, this is more, you might say, about the Hollywood rap sheet courtesy of an Oscar nominee, of all people.
This picture we're about to show you, here it is, not the most flattering image in the world of Ryan O'Neal, but it's -- well, it's a mug shot. And mug shots rarely are flattering.
The charge, assault with a deadly weapon and negligent discharge of a firearm. Police say O'Neal and his 42-year-old son Griffin got into something of a spat at dad's Malibu home, when suddenly a gun came out. This is according to police.
Nobody was hurt. Ryan O'Neal now is out on bond.
So, do you think that Tyra Banks is fat? Do you really think that one of the world's most beautiful women, without -- you know, without any question, a Victoria's Secret model, actress, talk show host, is too heavy -- or we should say former fashion model and runway model.
Is this really part of the American conversation now? It is. And Tyra Banks is the reason it's there.
She addressed her critics, telling them to kiss her on the spot that they say has gotten too large. She does this in no -- well, let's just say she doesn't hold anything back.
I did some unscientific research right here at CNN. We randomly picked some people from our CNN tour and talked about some things with them. Something we hope to do every week for you. We put them in front of a camera and we put the question to them.
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TYRA BANKS, TALK SHOW HOST: For some reason people have a serious problem when I looked like that. All right? When I looked like that. So I have something to say to all of you that have something nasty to say about me or other women that are built like me, women that sometimes or all the time look like this, women whose name you know, women whose names you don't, women who get picked on, women whose husbands put them down, women at work or girls in school, I have one thing to say to you, kiss my fat (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
SANCHEZ (voice over): Here's a woman saying, you know what? Stop trying to make me a bean pole. That's not the way God intended me to be.
LUANN LOEBER, TRAVELERS REST, SOUTH CAROLINA: I think she's perfectly right, and I'm glad she's saying it.
TRACEY TOKUHANA-ESPINOSA, LIMA, PERU: I think you really have to pull a balance into what is healthy and what is a natural body.
WILMA KAMMER, ALPHARETTA, GEORGIA: Well, it's not only girls. One of our grandsons is eight years old. He is a big kid. He is tall, he's almost up to my shoulder. And I can't tell I all the times he comes home from school and somebody has said, "You're fat."
And, I mean, it just breaks your heart.
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SANCHEZ: It's what you're saying, America, people just like you. And we'll keeping talking to them every week to get your opinions.
Well, from Tyra, we turn to Academy Award-winning actress Charlize Theron.
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CHARLIZE THERON, ACTRESS: At the end of the day, we're all human beings, we're all trying to survive the same way. And our politics sometimes can be the same problems, same situations that we face.
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SANCHEZ: This is interesting. Making relationships a reality. But what about me?
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THERON: I want to make out with you right now.
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SANCHEZ: Whoa! My answer in less than three minutes. We'll be back.
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SANCHEZ: And we welcome you back to the CNN NEWSROOM.
I'm Rick Sanchez.
Tonight I want to show you an interview with a movie star that didn't go exactly as I thought it would.
Charlize Theron is a smart and beautiful South African actress now living in the United States, and she just completed a film about Cuba. It's called "East of Havana." That's what I thought we would be talking about.
Instead, our chat suddenly took a different direction.
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THERON: We set out to tell a human story. We followed three people. And we wanted to see them as human beings living their life.
SANCHEZ (voice over): This documentary Charlize Theron co- produces provides that and more. It's a unique story of the free spirit represented by Cuban rappers -- yes, rappers -- and the hardships that they're forced to endure.
EMILIA MENOCAL, CO-DIRECTOR: Hip-hop is a language that transcends everything. You know? Hip-hop is a movement that is actually all over the world.
SANCHEZ: It shows them struggling to make ends meet, and struggling with the limits on freedom that are a constant in Cuba. So, naturally, I asked Theron about that lack of artistic freedom.
(on camera): There's still a lack of freedom in Cuba, obviously. And you may have experienced...
THERON: Well, I would argue that there's a lack of freedom in America.
SANCHEZ (voice over): Now, that seemed to come out of nowhere. Did she just say...
THERON: Well, I would argue that there's a lack of freedom in America. I think -- I think -- you know, I think we tend to...
SANCHEZ (on camera): Yes, but you don't have Democrats being arrested and thrown in jail. And you can have a meeting in your House and...
THERON: No, but I do remember not too long ago some people getting fired from their jobs in television because they spoke up on how they felt about the war.
SANCHEZ (voice over): OK, fair enough. But does that mean Cuban and U.S. freedoms, or lack thereof, are parallel?
I wanted her to explain. So I asked. And then it got a little testy.
(on camera): Do you think the lack of freedoms in Cuba are parallel to the lack of freedoms in the United States.
THERON: Well, I would -- I would compare those two, yes, definitely.
SANCHEZ: Yes?
THERON: I mean, the fact that these rappers have to show their lyrics to government officials before they perform, and that they have to get the OK from that, to somebody on a television show speaking up on the war in Iraq and losing their job.
SANCHEZ: It sounds like -- it sounds like you don't have a very high opinion of the United States if you think that the freedoms...
THERON: Oh, my god. No, you're so wrong.
SANCHEZ: ... are only -- are as bad as the lack of freedoms in Cuba.
THERON: I absolutely love it. Why do you think I live in the United States?
SANCHEZ (voice over): This interview about east of Havana was headed in a different direction. I realized it and so did she, which explains why in a moment I totally missed she threw this out...
THERON: I want to make out with you right now.
SANCHEZ: Was it just a way for a beautiful woman to get a guy to change the subject? I guess. We'll never know.
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SANCHEZ: This documentary is called "East of Havana," and you can see it right now in select theaters.
Let's go now to Jacqui Jeras. She's checking to see how things will be going tomorrow.
Yes. If I'm blushing, I am.
JACQUI JERAS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: That will heat things up in the Midwest, won't it?
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SANCHEZ: A new record in space. And we're going to talk about that after the break.
First, though, your responses to our "Last Call" question.
We asked, you answered. It's about a new report citing a possible link -- remember we began the newscast with this -- possible link between serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer and murdered child Adam Walsh. Should police take a second look?
Most of our callers have pretty much the same answer. Listen in.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. This is Angela (ph) in West Palm Beach. And yes, I absolutely think they should follow up on it. It's almost a no-brainer. I mean, if there's some -- some connection, it doesn't matter how much of a connection. You follow up on that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. It's Molly (ph) from California. And I do believe that the police should take a second look at thi this, especially if there is a connection. It could really give the Walshes complete and total closure.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I don't think there's any connection, because Dahmer always seemed to go for adolescents, more mature, young men. And he was of a different mind than just abducting a child.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. My name is Teresa Jenkins (ph), calling from Norfolk, Virginia. I think they really should look into the new evidence and the witnesses' statements as far as who they saw take little Adam.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I absolutely think they should look at it again, just the fact that he was in that area at that time. And you have a couple of people that are eyewitnesses that placed him at the scene of the crime.
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