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Aired February 05, 2007 - 14:00   ET

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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour. We start with developing news, that story T.J. was following a worker stuck in a trench.
T.J., it looks like they're getting him out.

T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: They got him out. A tough start to the workday for this guy -- workweek, really. But there he is on that stretcher, a guy we had an eye on for the past hour or so.

He had gotten stuck in a trench there that had collapsed. He was working at a residence there. This is in Hollywood Hills, California.

He got stuck there. He was stuck from the waist down, is what we were told. Stuck up to his waist.

Now, the whole time firefighters said he was conscious. He was -- he was breathing and appeared to be all right.

Not sure what the injuries may to be his legs. Again, he was trapped from up to his waist, so don't know about the injuries.

I think we have this tape we can queue up for you to show him actually being -- I guess unstuck, if you will. But the firefighters here, you could see several of them. But what they had to do -- you see that hydraulic equipment they have on the wall there. Just had to get enough space in there to just make enough space to essentially just pull him out of there.

He was squeezed in there some kind of way. Don't know how exactly it happened, but certainly he was trapped because the trench collapsed.

Again, don't know how badly injured. No word on the injuries or anything like that from earlier, but they did, maybe just as a precaution, hopefully nothing too bad, but maybe just as a precaution put him on that stretcher to make sure he gets checked out. But really, a good number, as you can see here, of firefighters were on this project and were working on it for some time.

But something we had our eye on, this rescue. We'll try to get an update possibly on his condition and get that to you. But he's out. That's good news, good to hear, good to see, and I'm sure he's ready to get along with his workweek -- Don.

LEMON: Yes. He's like, OK, let's start over anew. But I'm OK. All right. Thank you very much for that, T.J.

We want to take to you Washington right now. And the secretary of defense, Robert Gates, holding a briefing there. He's expected to talk about Iraq and the new budget that the president has and how much we're going to be spending on Iraq. We'll get to that live just as soon as he says something about Iraq.

BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: In the meantime, a small plane, a big building, a deadly combination. New York City, last October, Yankee's pitcher Corey Lidle and a flight instructor are killed when their plane slams into a high-rise. Now, we know what happened, but we still don't know exactly why.

CNN's Kathleen Koch has the latest now from Washington. What have you learned?

KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Betty, the NTSB put out a factual report today, and they found no evidence of any problem with the New York Yankee pitcher's single-engine plane. Investigators found that the propeller and the engine of Lidle's Cirrus SR-20 were operating normally and there was no sign of an in-flight fire, no sign of damage to the plane.

Now, radar did show, however, that instead of beginning the dramatic 180-degree turn over the East River with a full 2,100 feet of clearance from one side of the river to the other, the pilot began the turn at a mid-river position. And prevailing winds caused the plane to drift even further toward the buildings, and that cut its space to turn to just 1,400 feet. Now, the NTSB hasn't reached a conclusion as to what caused the crash, but one aviation expert told me earlier they just ran out of room.

Now, one interesting question that remains unanswered is just who was flying the plane. The NTSB right now can't determine whether or not it was Lidle or Tyler Stanger, the certified flight instructor who was aboard with him.

Other instructors who the investigators interviewed said that Lidle was an average pilot and he was quick to adapt. He was conscientious. And as to Stanger, he had plenty of flying experience in California, but he had never flown before in New York City. He had also never flown over the East River and had no experience on a Cirrus aircraft.

So, Betty, who was at the controls that day will remain a mystery.

NGUYEN: There are so many mysteries here, so many questions. I mean, why aren't we learning more about the crash from this final report? I mean, were there cockpit voice recordings? Is there anything that will lead us to, you know, understand exactly why this happened?

KOCH: Well, Betty, like most small planes, the Cirrus SR-20 did not have a cockpit voice recorder. So there is no transcript, no recorder of Lidle or Stanger's final words. Also, they did not have to be in touch with the -- with air traffic controllers, so there was no air traffic control tape of their final words to the tower.

Another thing that's interesting, the plane didn't have a flight data recorder. Now, there were a couple of portable GPS systems on board. There was a microchip. The NTSB tried to repair those to get more information out of them, but they were too badly damaged.

One final interesting note, the plane did have a parachute, and it turns out that the parachute had been activated. But investigators don't know if that happened when the plane hit the building or if the pilot actually activated it.

NGUYEN: Again, so many questions in this final report.

We appreciate your time. Thank you.

KOCH: You bet.

LEMON: Enforcing the law, or is it an invasion of privacy? There's a debate heating up over a move by the Justice Department to collect a lot more DNA, including samples, from hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants.

Our Brianna Keilar is live in Washington with more on this plan -- Brianna.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: HI there, Don.

The plan is to take DNA samples from federal suspects, suspects who are arrested by federal law enforcement agencies. This could include illegal immigrants who are detained, as well as suspects who are not necessarily convicted or even charged of a crime, and then, of course, all of these DNA samples would be compiled and then law enforcement agencies at different levels would be able to look at them and potentially make matches in crimes that they're investigating.

Well, critics are concerned that it might be a little bit of big brother, that a person also could be detained by mistake and then their DNA sample is irreversibly going to be in this vast DNA database. But some opponents -- or, pardon me, opponents of this include the ACLU, as well as advocates for undocumented workers.

They have some concerns about profiling, that this is going to end up being a bunch of illegal immigrants who are over-represented in this DNA database. But opponents here in Washington --- or, pardon me, proponents, supporters of this here in Washington, say the Department of Justice will be able to tailor this so that that doesn't happen, so that it's illegal immigrants who are creating criminal acts who would be represented in this DNA database -- Don.

LEMON: All right, Brianna. Now, some groups are split over whether or not to support this plan, aren't they? What's going on with that?

KEILAR: That's right. And this is somewhat surprising. Some groups say the bigger the database the better, then you have more to choose from, more matches that you can make. But still, others are concerned that this database, this federal database, could be bogged down with a bunch of people who maybe aren't really a risk for criminal behavior, and that's going to prohibit the processing of maybe people who really are at risk.

For instance, just to give you a sense of these federal labs and how backlogged they are at this point, an FBI spokesperson tells me they have about 150,000 samples backlogged, and they only process about 100,000 per year. They put some robotics in place to speed these things up. But at the same time, that tells you they're about a year behind at this point.

So, definitely a challenge, considering the FBI says this plan could give them anywhere from a few hundred thousand more samples per year, to as much as a million more per year -- Don.

LEMON: Brianna Keilar, thank you.

NGUYEN: Severe weather is right. Our meteorologist, Jacqui Jeras, is standing by with more on the arctic blast.

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LEMON: Well, thought the field of presidential candidates was already crowded? Well, word just in to CNN, according The Associated Press, just coming off the wires, former New York City mayor Rudolph Giuliani is to file a statement of candidacy in the U.S. presidential race.

We're getting word from the AP that he has already filed those papers, and of course we're working our sources to try to get new information on this story. But as you know, the former mayor came to fame, national fame, during the 9/11 tragedy, when he took the helm of New York City and brought that city out of that tragedy.

But again, former New York City mayor, Republican, Rudy Giuliani to file a statement of candidacy in the U.S. presidential race. And word is that he's already filed those papers.

We'll have details on this story as they become available to us in the CNN NEWSROOM -- Betty.

NGUYEN: In the meantime, no one has ever been charged in the 1981 kidnapping and death of Adam Walsh, but even his dad thinks there is reason to take a closer look at serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer.

The evidence and a profiler's take it on next in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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NGUYEN: It has been more than 25 years since Adam Walsh was kidnapped and murdered, 12 years since serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison. And a new book is linking the two of them, suggesting that Dahmer might have been the monster who ended the little boy's life.

So, joining us from Washington with some insight is investigative criminal profiler Pat Brown.

Thanks for being with us, Pat.

PAT BROWN, INVESTIGATIVE CRIMINAL PROFILER: Hi, Betty.

NGUYEN: Well, let's dissect some of the details in this book.

Arthur Jay Harris says at the same mall where Walsh was abducted back in 1981 and later found to be murdered, a man named Willis Morgan says he was approached by Dahmer in a RadioShack there and, actually, Dahmer was trying to hit on him, saying, "Nice day, isn't it?" But Mr. Morgan really didn't say anything to Dahmer. He was put off by him.

But then, after that, take a listen to what Morgan says happened.

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WILLIS MORGAN, WITNESS: Then the smile went off his face and he had this, like, look of anger. And I'm just looking at him. You know, I didn't know what this guy was up to. And then all of the sudden, that look went to, like, rage. I mean, it was just an unbelievable look. I mean, I had to look away.

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NGUYEN: All right. Now, Morgan says that Walsh -- not Walsh, but Dahmer left the store immediately, but he followed him because he thought there was something evil in his eyes, followed him all the way to Sears and the toy department where he lost him. That's the same toy department where Walsh was last seen.

As a profiler, I give you this background because, let's dissect Dahmer for a second. Does this fit his characteristics? Mr. Morgan says he looked like he had the devil in him. He also said he was flirting with him, Dahmer was flirting with Morgan.

Does this fit the way Dahmer operated?

BROWN: Well, I think, you know, he liked to lure in his victims. And this certainly could be a way he would operate.

What's interesting is that Adam Walsh was a very small child and Dahmer generally went after older -- older teens or young adults. So this wasn't exactly in his profile. But, having said that, sometimes when a serial killer can't get who he wants, he'll just take who he can get.

Now, I think the real problem here is determining how accurate Morgan's story is. Did he really -- did this really even occur? Is this something he has created because he wants publicity, or did this occur and he can't -- he thinks it's Dahmer, but it isn't Dahmer? Or did this really occur and it was Dahmer and he followed Dahmer to Sears?

I would say if he really -- if it really was Dahmer he interacted with, then I would say, yes, Dahmer killed Adam Walsh. Because the chances of him being in Sears when Adam Walsh was there and Adam Walsh disappearing and it not being him is unlikely. If it's the other two possibilities, then I think we haven't -- we just don't any more than we did before.

NGUYEN: Well, your questions are valid. But, that raises the point that another man named Bill Bowen says that he saw a man in a Sears parking lot grab a boy and take him out to a van.

Listen to what he had to say.

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BILL BOWEN, WITNESS: That Sunday in 1991, when the picture of Dahmer came out, it hit me like a baseball bat. There was a man holding a little boy by one arm up in the air, and the boy was struggling. And the little boy was saying, "I don't want to go. I'm not going."

(END VIDEO CLIP)

NGUYEN: So, Mr. Bowen didn't really make the Dahmer connection until he saw the picture of Dahmer in a newspaper after all the killings had occurred. And so that's when he said that was Dahmer.

But does this really fit Dahmer's profile? I mean, did he lure victims, or did he grab them and take them by force?

BROWN: Well, generally speaking, he lured them. So he didn't really just go out there and grab that we know of. But of course we're talking about this as before his other crimes were found. He may have changed techniques when he found he didn't like the way it worked. But again, I say we have to go back to witnesses, the problem with witnesses.

You know, we like to believe exactly what they say, but sometimes they think they saw somebody that was that person, but maybe it just looked like that person, or maybe now that they see a scary person, they think that must have been the guy. Witnesses are real problematic, and it doesn't -- it means it's a very interesting piece of information, and if it were way back then, if this were right after Adam Walsh was kidnapped, this would be a wonderful lead to follow up to find the evidence, but at this point in time, the evidence does not exist.

So we're never going to be able to absolutely conclude that this could -- this was Jeffrey Dahmer who was in the parking lot or in the store.

NGUYEN: Well, those were two witnesses, but two FBI agents say it's worth another investigation. They, in fact, interviewed Dahmer, and one agent, Neil Partells (ph), says when you hear a person say, "Honest to god, I didn't do it," when they preface is by "honest to God," he knows they're lying. And that's what Dahmer told him.

What do you think about that?

BROWN: It's yet another theory. And these are very good things for investigations and certainly make us look at someone very closely. But I've had enough experience in this field to know that you can have many coincidences, strange coincidences, where two or three serial killers are right on top of each other in the same area, and none of them even committed the crime that we're looking at.

We can have people come in to confess to things or sound like they absolutely did it and know things, and it turns out not to be them. So we cannot jump to conclusions. And just I don't believe that unless they have DNA evidence or some article of Adam shows up in Jeffrey Dahmer's -- some bag he left someplace with somebody, unless we have that conclusive evidence, they're going to waste a lot of money that could be used in cases that actually could be solved today.

NGUYEN: Well, another event has people scratching their heads, too, because a statement from the Broward County attorney says investigators, in fact, offered Dahmer immunity from Florida's death penalty if he indeed did kill Adam Walsh, and Dahmer said, "No, I didn't do it."

BROWN: Right.

NGUYEN: You would think a man who is not going to go to the death chamber would have nothing -- well, not nothing to lose, but me more likely to say he did it.

BROWN: That's possible. But, you know, we're talking about a psychopath here, and he has his own reason.

It may be that he did fear admitting that because people in prison might kill him. And he might just not have wanted to admit it because he didn't want to be considered the killer of a little child. Maybe the other guys he thought were OK to kill, but not a little child like this.

So, a psychopath's mind is different from ours. So we cannot really get into his mind and know exactly what he was thinking at that exact moment.

NGUYEN: And quickly, bottom line, is there ever going to be a solution to this case?

BROWN: Not without absolute physical evidence. Other than that, it's going to be a conclusion somebody might like to believe in. It may make the family happy, it may make the police department happy to close the case, it may make -- it may make us all happy, but it may not prove anything. It may not have anything to do with Jeffrey Dahmer at all, unless we have that evidence, physical evidence linking him.

NGUYEN: Pat Brown, investigative criminal profiler.

We appreciate your insight today.

BROWN: My pleasure.

LEMON: A major flap after deadly bird flu shows up in Great Britain, despite great precaution. Details straight ahead, right here in the CNN NEWSROOM.

NGUYEN: Not a good night for Bears fans. Oh no. But what about Madison Avenue?

Ahead in the NEWSROOM, the hits and misses in the so-called Super Bowl of advertising.

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LEMON: All right. Details on a developing story now.

We're hearing that former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani is throwing his hat into the ring to be a presidential contender for the 2008 race. According to The Associated Press, Mr. Giuliani has filed a statement of candidacy in the U.S. presidential race, and we're also hearing that he has already filed those papers.

We're going to talk to our political analysts and correspondents about this story coming up in just a little bit. But again, Republican former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani throwing his hat into the ring to possibly run for president in 2008. We'll have much more details coming up right here in the CNN NEWSROOM.

NGUYEN: In the meantime, we're talking a lot about the budget today. The president is asking for $2.9 trillion. So far, an estimated $400 billion spent on Iraq.

So here's what that money could buy for you right here in the U.S. Look at these graphics. It may cause to you think a little bit.

What would that buy? 126,500 bonus dollars for every U.S. public school teacher. That's how much in a bonus they could get for $400 billion.

LEMON: $1,000 in savings bonds -- a savings bond per person in the United States. That's -- I'm sure everybody would like that.

NGUYEN: With $100 billion left over.

LEMON: Yes. That's a lot.

$23,158 tuition for every U.S. college student.

NGUYEN: Can you imagine that?

LEMON: A lot of people are struggling to pay for college right now. So...

NGUYEN: $23,000 would pay for every U.S. college student. It may not get you fully through there, but, boy, it would do a large chunk of it.

LEMON: Yes. And I wonder what the factors are there. That's probably in a completely utopian society where everything is equal, but...

NGUYEN: That's true.

LEMON: ... this seems like it's -- you know.

NGUYEN: Hey, $400 billion, any way you cut it, is going to buy a whole lot.

LEMON: That's a lot of money.

Let's talk about fighting for rebuilding Iraq. More boots on the ground. Who is really footing the bill for Iraq? You are. And President Bush wants lots more from you in his budget plan.

It's your money, your tax dollars. So it's only fair to ask your opinion.

Well, CNN's Rick Sanchez did just that by taking a random sampling of people touring CNN.

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JANET MARSH, SENECA, SOUTH CAROLINA: First of all, I want to say that as an American, I don't want $400 billion to go there and to a large extent cause more death and destruction.

RICK SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So what do you think?

ALICIA CEDRONE, GROTON, CONNECTICUT: I think it's atrocious that any money goes outside the United States before it takes care of our own.

SANCHEZ: You think the money should have been kept here.

CEDRONE: Absolutely.

SANCHEZ: You would have loved that $23,000 to help pay your kids' -- put them through school and pay tuition, right?

CEDRONE: Absolutely.

SANCHEZ: You believe we should do everything we can to secure our country first?

JOHN LOEBER, CARMEL, INDIANA: Yes, I do.

SANCHEZ: I have got a stat for you. You ready? With $400 billion, we could have built a 12-foot concrete wall two feet thick and painted on both sides along the whole border of the United States and Mexico, plus the rest of the United States, including Alaska and Hawaii 20 times over.

LOEBER: Well, that's interesting.

(LAUGHTER)

SANCHEZ: Nobody here agrees that the cause in Iraq is necessary to eliminate those terrorists who are there?

MARIAN WEISS, WOODSTOCK, ILLINOIS: We're making more terrorists.

SANCHEZ: You think we're making more terrorists?

WEISS: I absolutely think we're making more terrorists by our policy.

LUANN LOEBER, TRAVELERS REST, SOUTH CAROLINA: I assumed that there was going to be more of a plan once we got in there what we were going to do doing. And I think that's where our government has failed us.

TRACEY TOKUHANA-ESPINOSA, LIMA, PERU: I'm sorry to say that our reputation around the world as global citizens has just plummeted.

SANCHEZ: What do you say to people who say, you know what, if you're critical of this war effort, then by golly you are not a patriot.

STEVE CARPENTER, BOYDS, MARYLAND: That's freedom of speech. And that's what you're to supposed to have as being an American. You're supposed to be able to speak as you feel.

SANCHEZ: But you're hurting the troops.

CARPENTER: No. You're saying what is correct.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

NGUYEN: So, if all this budget talk has you hot under the collar, let me tell you, there's plenty of places where you can go to cool down. And we're going to talk to Jacqui Jeras about that, because there's an arctic blast out there, and you'll want to find out exactly where it's happening.

LEMON: Yes.

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LEMON: Hello, everyone. I'm Don Lemon live at the CNN World Headquarters in Atlanta.

NGUYEN: And I'm Betty Nguyen, in for Kyra Phillips today.

A step closer to entering the fray. Is Rudy Giuliani about to officially throw his hat in the ring for president?

CNN's Candy Crowley joins us with his chances, here in the CNN NEWSROOM. LEMON: Well, he hasn't officially said he's running for president, but Rudy Giuliani seems a lot closer to it today. Our senior political correspondent Candy Crowley is following this developing story.

Candy, we hear that, a statement of candidacy. He's filed the papers -- an exploratory committee. What does all of this mean now for Rudy Giuliani?

CANDY CROWLEY, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, without trying to get into bureaucratic babble, there are two things you need to do if you're thinking about running for president. One is to file for an exploratory committee, and the other is to file a statement of candidacy.

Now, most of the people that are currently in the race have already filed a statement of candidacy. So -- I mean, people like John McCain have already filed those. So this just sort of catches up to them.

Now, the significance may be that there has been in the past couple of weeks a number of stories about, "Well, is Rudy Giuliani just playing around or is he really going to run? What's the deal here?"

And then we've begun to see these stories about how Rudy Giuliani is beginning to put together a team and now we see that he's filed his statement of candidacy.

So it's part of the package that you have to do. And all of the candidates that we've been talking about for the past couple of months have already filed their statement of candidacies with the notable exception of Senator Barack Obama, who I assume is going to do that this weekend since he's -- we all expect him to announce his candidacy this week.

LEMON: So, Candy, let's talk about at least Republicans here. According to a recent poll by CNN and Opinion Research, it shows that, among registered Republicans -- who would they like to see? They'd like to see Rudy Giuliani run for the Republican nomination. Seventy- seven percent of those polled said that they would. Seventeen percent said no.

And this is also one for registered Republicans, their choice for nomination in 2008. Rudy Giuliani is right at the top with 32 percent, followed by McCain with 26 percent there.

CROWLEY: It's really interesting because, as you know, Rudy Giuliani is a good more liberal on social issues than the bulk of the Republican Party.

So having said that, what I think attracts Republicans to Rudy Giuliani is the obvious. He was sort of Mr. 9/11, that tough guy that looked terrorism in the eye and walked down the streets and that sort of thing. So that's very appealing because in the end, when you look at the Republican Party or the Democratic Party, what they really want is someone who can win. And if you transport ourselves two years hence and figure what are the issues going to be -- is it going to be terrorism and safety at home, and is it going to be Iraq? Rudy Giuliani seems to have the credentials at least to those in the Republican Party to at least be able to play among this group of Republicans that now all want to be the Republican presidential candidate.

LEMON: It appears that he may be palatable at least to conservative voters, sort of middle of the road conservative voters. But how is all of this, especially with him being so liberal on issues like pro-life or gay rights, how is this going to play in the South?

CROWLEY: Well, and it's not just the South because there are elements in the Midwest as well. But you're right. The biggest problem may well be in the South.

However, given the choice between, say Rudy Giuliani and a Democrat who also believes -- sort of stands in sync with him on social issues, I would judge that the Republicans in the South would eventually come around to Rudy Giuliani despite their differences with him on these social issues.

LEMON: Now, I remember -- let's talk about past, because I actually lived in New York City when New York -- when Rudy Giuliani beat David Dinkins and became mayor. Very controversial start, at least. And it wasn't really until the end, until 9/11 that people started to warm up again to Rudy Giuliani...

CROWLEY: Absolutely.

LEMON: Yes. And so...

CROWLEY: They were ready to drive him out of town on a rail, you know, for a while.

LEMON: Absolutely.

CROWLEY: Yes.

LEMON: How much is his past going to play into this? Will that come up in this?

CROWLEY: Absolutely. Anybody's -- once you put yourself under this microscope, under the klieg lights, everything in your past -- although I will tell you that the thing that comes up most often with the former mayor is what he's been doing since then. Obviously, he's had his own consulting firm. You know, when you begin to look at, "Oh, he was partners with this person or he worked for that company," there can be a lot of things that can come up that will cause people to raise their eyebrows. So, this happens to all of these candidates. And you will go through with a microscope every line of their biography and the lines that weren't put in their biography.

LEMON: Yes, including his divorces will come up and his past wives and that kind of thing...

CROWLEY: Right.

LEMON: As they have already.

CROWLEY: Yes. Yes. I mean, he's been married three times. He's had a messy personal life, at least. Now he's by his own account happily married.

I have to tell you, we saw him in Iowa several months ago and sometime last year. And he was a much mellower Rudy Giuliani than I remembered. And I asked him about it, and I said, "So is this the new Rudy Giuliani?" Because, as you know, he was very in your face with reporters, and he was, you know, very welcoming when a bunch of us were out there. And he said, "Well, a bout with cancer and 9/11 sort of changes a guy. And yes, I do feel a little bit mellower, a little bit, you know, more laid back."

So, look, he's appealing to a lot of Republicans in a lot of ways, and again -- I mean that's why he's at this point ahead in the polls.

LEMON: All right. Senior political correspondent, thank you so much, Candy Crowley. Always interesting to get your perspective.

And of course this will be the topic today on the "SITUATION ROOM" with Wolf Blitzer following this broadcast at 4:00 p.m. Eastern time. Live prime time edition at 7:00 p.m. Eastern, as well. The "SITUATION ROOM," you don't want to miss that.

NGUYEN: What to do? Where to go? Hundreds of people in central Florida just in limbo -- you can see why, looking at these pictures -- after losing almost everything to Friday's deadly tornadoes. They're still digging through the debris, searching for something, anything that can be salvaged.

NGUYEN (voice-over): You hear it there. The sound of chain saws echoes for miles. National Guard troops, even low-risk prisoners are helping with the enormous cleanup. Early estimates put the damage at $68 million. President Bush declares the four hardest hit counties disaster areas. FEMA, the Red Cross and the Salvation Army on the scene, helping survivors get back on their feet.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DAVID PAULSON, FEMA DIRECTOR: Right now, we're working with the state to determine exactly what the housing needs are. We have moved a lot of equipment and people into the area. We've moved a lot of blue tarps in, food, water, ice, generators to assist the state. But this is a state-run disaster. Florida is doing an outstanding job.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

NGUYEN: Now, those who need help can call FEMA toll-free. The number is on your screen. It's 1-800-621-FEMA.

Or you can get information from its website at FEMA.gov. Well, tornado-linked injuries don't just happen when the twister hits. CNN's Rusty Dornin looks at what is being done to protect people days after the storm.

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RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): After the shock wears off, there's the nasty, dirty business of cleanup complete with rusty nails and water that's unsafe to drink.

PAM STEINKE, NURSE: We're just making sure everybody's okay health wise.

DORNIN: So Pam Steinke at the Lake County Health Department is making the rounds, a woman armed with a weapon to fight infection.

STEINKE: OK, relax honey. Relax.

DORNIN (on camera): What's one of the kinds of things that crop up in situations like this?

STEINKE: Well, the main thing is tetanus. We're asking people if they've had their tetanus shot because they're removing debris.

DORNIN: Here at the Lady Lake Mobile Home Park few were spared when it came to damage. Local officials were concerned because most here are elderly retirees.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I only got a few bruises on my arm..

DORNIN: Many, it turns out, have already had tetanus shots but are happy to take things like hand sanitizer and water. Their biggest customers turn out to be disaster relief workers.

PAMELA SHEFFIELD, RELIEF WORKER: We work with a lot of debris, nails and stuff like that and we're afraid that maybe, you know -- I might get sick or something like that.

DORNIN: Patty Stiffler lives nearby and wanted to lend a hand but forgot about the dangers.

PATTY SNIFFLER, RELIEF WORKER: Part of my community got hit but these people just -- I cried when I saw this and I just feel I want to be here to help the people.

CROWLEY (on camera): You haven't had a tetanus shot?

STIFFLER: No, I haven't had a tetanus sot in five years. So it's better to be safer than sorry.

DORNIN (voice-over): Steinke has been amazed how well the storm victims here seem to be handling things, but knows that down the line, mental health issues are bound to come up.

STEINKE: Right now people want information and they're still in a shock, and so we haven't done a lot with mental health yet. When the recovery centers open up, like the Red Cross, then they'll have mental health people there.

DORNIN: So many problems to be solved here, and recovery has only just begun.

Rusty Dornin, CNN, Lady Lake, Florida.

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LEMON: Well, from the deadly tornadoes to the freezing cold. Look at this: a live picture from Indianapolis, Indiana. Look at that. You can tell it's cold just from that picture.

NGUYEN: No doubt about it.

LEMON: A super-chilly reception for Super Bowl champs in their hometown today. It's not the fans don't love them, but the Indianapolis Colts are returning to a city gripped by an arctic blast. Many schools in Indiana are closed because of the cold. And you close the schools in Indiana because of the cold...

NGUYEN: You know it's cold.

LEMON: It's got to be really, really cold. But in Indianapolis classes are canceled for a different reason. Several school bus drivers called off work on the day after Super Bowl.

Extreme cold is also making for miserable conditions in my former home city of Chicago. Look at that. Everybody's calling me today telling me they are freezing. It is a double whammy for dejected Bears fans who are also coping with their team's loss.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Definitely colder because the Bears lost. But you know what? It's so cold even if they won, it would be cold. But people would be more smiling.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's cold. It's cold. And I ran across the street with no coat on right now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What were you thinking?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Crazy. I'm trying to get back in here now.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Freezing! Way too cold!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Much too cold to stop.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm from San Diego, so this is hell.

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LEMON: OK. The sun is up on the Magnificent Mile, usually tons of people out there. When people are cold in Chicago and Indianapolis, Jacqui Jeras, it is really cold.

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NGUYEN: Well, not a good night for Bears fans. But what about Madison Avenue? Ahead in CNN NEWSROOM, the hits and the misses in the so-called Super Bowl of advertising.

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LEMON: Straight ahead, entertainment news.

Sibila, you are not sitting by the pool when the rest of the country is freezing, are you?

What's coming up tonight on "Showbiz"?

SIBILA VARGAS, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: But I don't have a pina colada.

Well, tonight I'll tell you, a poolside -- there's a reason for this, OK? This is the Oscar Nominees' Luncheon. And we're going to be talking to all of the stars as they come down and start making their appearance and talking about their fruitful year. And this year, Oscar nominee Martin Scorsese may be one step closer to nabbing at the award. And I'll tell you why when NEWSROOM continues.

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NGUYEN: All right, a glittering collection of Hollywood's brightest, a lunch time gathering in the heart of Beverly Hills. The guest list? This year's Oscar nominees, of course.

And our own Sibila Vargas is there, too, reporting poolside from the Beverly Hilton Hotel.

You know you've got it good when you're getting paid to sit glamorously by a pool of all places when people are freezing to death up in the Midwest.

VARGAS: That is very true. The only thing I need right now is a pina colada, but I am working. (INAUDIBLE)

But, yes, this -- we are just -- I am surrounded by outlets, I mean, different -- you've got entertainment outlets. And they're just waiting for all of the Oscar nominees to come down. And we're going to talk to some of the biggest ones. Hopefully, we'll get Forest Whitaker and Helen Mirren. I'm going to be speaking to Jennifer Hudson, also hoping to get Martin Scorsese. It is a big, big, big weekend for him this weekend. He got the Directors' Guild Award. This is one of the most prestigious awards here in Hollywood. And, of course, he got a nomination, his sixth nomination -- Oscar nomination for "The Departed". So, you know, everybody's pulling him now because they think that, you know what, he's due. And, like I said, he got the Directors' Guild Award. And let me give you one of the highlights of that winning moment.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the award goes to Martin Scorsese for "The Departed".

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VARGAS: He had been nominated seven times for that coveted award and he finally got it. And I guess, you know -- I got a chance to speak to him backstage and this is also what he had to say to me.

NGUYEN: Absolutely. But let me ask you this: for those that don't already know, Sibila, what is the significance of the Directors' Guild Award? For those, you know, trying to keep score but that really don't have the background info?

VARGAS: Well, first of all, the Directors' Guild Award is one of the most prestigious awards here in Hollywood. And this is where the directors get to nominate and recognize their fellow directors. So there's a lot of prestige, there's a lot of honor to go with this. And it also is an excellent barometer to what's going to happen come Oscar. Out of the 58 times that directors have gotten their award, 52 of them have gone on to win Oscar gold. So it is extremely significant.

And, like I said, this is a man, Martin Scorsese, who has been recognized before. He's been nominated six times. Everyone is thinking this is his year. He did such a fabulous job with "The Departed". And, you know, just to -- the fact that he's gotten 16 people that have worked with him nominated, 16 nominations that have come out of the work that he's done, and about seven or eight people have also picked up awards goes to show a lot about this man and his work and his ability, his talent. And they're saying that it is his year. And you know, like I said, the Directors' Guild Award is a good barometer. So it looks like he is one step closer to getting the award.

NGUYEN: So then, besides Scorsese, who else are you looking forward to talking to today?

VARGAS: Just a whole bunch of people. Eddie Murphy, Kate Winslet, Cate Blanchett, too many to count. You know, I'm also looking forward to talking to Jennifer Hudson because I will be talking to her at length. We definitely have that interview locked.

And, you know, I think I've spoken to you before. I've spoken to so many people at CNN. She is the Cinderella story this year. It's just amazing. I've spoken to her two times before and she is just in awe. She just can't believe how fast her life is going and all of these -- one award show after another. She's been -- she got the SAG Award, she got the Golden Globe award. Now she's definitely the top contender come Oscar. And it's just such a wonderful story. This is a girl who was on "American Idol", a reject. According to Simon Cowell she didn't fit the bill. And all of a sudden, it's almost like art imitating life, a little life imitating art with this role in "Dreamgirls" where, you know, she's playing a kind of bigger character, which -- they want to have her in the background, and then, all of the sudden, she just ends up stealing the show. So it's really just an amazing story. So I can't wait to speak to her for sure.

NGUYEN: No doubt. Her story is really quite amazing, remarkable and she deserves so much applause for that. I mean, I saw it. It was incredible, that performance.

Sibila, all we need....

VARGAS: It's an inspiration.

NGUYEN: Absolutely. Speaking of inspiration, your shot, we're just trying to get a pool in the back of the NEWSROOM somewhere, so maybe we can get a little bit closer to being someplace fabulous as you are.

Thank you.

VARGAS: I would love to have you here with me.

NGUYEN: It would be fun.

Don, what do you think?

LEMON: I think that would be a good idea. But we would need some heat with it as well.

Thanks to both of you.

Soldier, objector, defendant. This Army officer is all three. He drew national headlines for refusing to go to Iraq. Now he could draw prison time. His case, that's ahead in NEWSROOM.

It can stop a potentially deadly virus, but some say a vaccine to prevent a sexually transmitted disease sends the wrong message. Others disagree.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it no more encourages sex than a tetanus shot encourages to you step on a rusty nail.

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LEMON: If it helps save lives, is it worth a shot? More on this debate ahead tight here in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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LEMON: How are you supposed to work after hearing that? I love The Beatles' "Come Together". And they did. It's a result of "A Hard Day's Night" in the music industry. Two companies named Apple have finally come together, as we said. Susan Lisovicz is at the New York Stock Exchange to explain all of that.

The Beatles, amazing, just to hear that, right? I just want to go and hang out somewhere.

SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Yes. Prince last night, The Beatles today, it's not so bad.

LEMON: And is that the reason for your voice there? Because your Colts...

LISOVICZ: I think it was the Bears that...

LEMON: Hey, listen. This is for you...

LISOVICZ: ... that first touchdown, boy. And that opening kickoff, boy, that sent my heart...

LEMON: I know. That was the best part of the game.

LISOVICZ: Yes.

LEMON: Unfortunately for me, so...

LISOVICZ: Sadly.

LEMON: Let's talk about the Apple, though.

LISOVICZ: Yes, well, this was a "Long and Winding Road", if you want to throw in yet another Beatles title. We talking about Apple, the iPod and maker, the iPhone maker, the computer maker, and Apple Corps, The Beatles' record label. The lengthy trademark lawsuit between the two will be dropped and the computer company will own all of the rights related to the Apple name and logo. The company will license certain trademarks back to The Beatles for continued use.

The problem stems from a 1991 agreement. Apple Corp. was given the rights to use the logo for making and selling music, while the other Apple could use the logo for making and selling computers. But when the iTunes Music Store was launched a few years ago, The Beatles' company sued the computer giant, saying it entered into the music business -- Don.

LEMON: For a while, though, you could not get Beatles music on iTunes, am I correct? Is that going to change now?

LISOVICZ: That is still correct. But, obviously, this is a big hurdle, so we are hoping that the trademark settlement will enable the two sides to focus on cutting a deal that will solve the Fab Four's music on iTunes. And during the recent launch of Apple's new iPhone, CEO Steve Jobs pumped up the crowd by referring to The Beatles and displaying the cover of the Sergeant Pepper's album on a giant monitor.

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