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Aired April 05, 2007 - 15:00   ET

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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Hello. I'm Don Lemon, live at the CNN world headquarters in Atlanta.
BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Brianna Keilar.

All hands on deck -- more than 1,000 passengers abandon ship when their cruise comes to an abrupt end in the Greek Isles -- the good news, not an iceberg in sight.

LEMON: Plus, listen to this. Exterminating X-rated urges? It's a new crusade for some Christian groups. Faith can move mountains. Can it conquer porn addiction? That's the question.

You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.

KEILAR: First this hour, new reports on the 15 British troops who are back with 15 British families today. A two-week standoff between London and Tehran is broken. Why, how, and what now, we leave to the politicians.

Now, because, this evening, in the United Kingdom, some families have some celebrating to do, and also wanted to get to Paula Hancocks here in a moment.

But, first, British media reports -- this is what we're just going in now -- that one of those Britons was held in solitary confinement in Iran. That's according to his family.

Let's go now to CNN's Paula Hancocks in Devon, England -- Paula.

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Brianna.

Well, yes, that is the latest information we are getting here. No mention of which crew member at this point, but we do know from a Ministry of Defense official that at this point the 15 British military personnel and their families are relaxing inside the RAF base behind me here in southwest England. They are starting to have dinner. They are starting to talk about what has happened, and just starting to relax a little bit, after what has been happening to them over the past near two weeks.

Now, they came here earlier this Thursday. We know that they have had a short debrief at this point. Obviously, the British military wants to know exactly what happened during their time in captivity, and also to find out where they believe they were, whether it was Iraqi waters, whether it was Iranian waters. Were they coerced during those televised incidents when they were saying they were in Iranian waters?

They want to find out whether or not that was forced on them by Iranian authorities. At this point, they haven't had a physical, we understand, but we did get pictures in earlier on of emotional reunions between the 15 and their loved ones, obviously, an extremely stressful time for the families, not knowing when they were going to be released.

And, at this point, diplomatically, both sides are claiming victory, saying that their tactics worked. There was, obviously, no military action needed. There was no negotiation, in the sense of a prisoner swap, needed -- so, at this point, both sides claiming victory.

But, for the 15 military personnel here, they are just happy to be free. We're hoping to talk to some of them on Friday. Whether that will be in the format of a press conference or individually wanting to talk, we will hear about that later -- Brianna.

KEILAR: Paula, do you know any more details on this report about -- from one of the families that one of these service members was in solitary confinement? Or are we just going to have to wait until Friday, you think?

HANCOCKS: Well, that at this point is just emerging, those details just emerging, very sketchy. All we know at this point is, the British media is reporting one family member saying one crew member was held at some point in solitary confinement.

Now, we don't know whether or not that family member was the one of the crew member. We don't know which member of the crew. Obviously, this is the sort of information that's going to be emerging over the next couple of days, hopefully, some official reaction from the Ministry of Defense on Friday, also from these military personnel themselves.

If anyone is best qualified to talk about what happened when they were in captivity, it's certainly the 15 inside the base behind me -- Brianna.

KEILAR: All right, thanks, Paula -- Paula Hancocks live for us from Devon, England.

LEMON: And the standoff ended with nobody hurt, everyone home and safe. But, if the sailors and marines had been American, do you think events would have gone the same way?

Well, CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr spoke to a man today with strong feelings on that subject.

Barbara, what did he have to say?

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Well, Don, this type of emerging information that my colleague Paula Hancocks was just talking about is exactly the same reason Admiral Mike Mullen, the U.S. Navy chief of operations, wants to know more about what exactly happened to those British troops while they were being held in captivity.

We conducted an exclusive interview with him earlier today, and asked him that very question: Could this have happened to U.S. Navy sailors and Marines?

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ADMIRAL MICHAEL MULLEN, CHIEF OF U.S. NAVAL OPERATIONS: It's a very dangerous world. We can't be perfectly predictive.

But my expectation is that American sailors are never seized in a situation like that. And individuals and units are guided by the right of self-defense. They don't have to ask permission to take action to protect themselves. And they go into operations like this and missions like this with that understanding.

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STARR: Don, Admiral Mullen being extremely blunt that it is his view U.S. Navy sailors and Marines would never be taken without a fight. They would exercise the right of self-defense. They would shoot. They wouldn't have to call anybody for permission about that.

But Admiral Mullen did go on to say that he wants to learn a lot more details from the Royal Navy. The U.S. Navy already has stepped up its own security procedures in the Persian Gulf when it conducts the type of missions that the British soldiers and marines were conducting, boarding and inspecting cargo ships.

So, the U.S. has already stepped up its security procedures, but they want to know more about this specific incident, of course, so they can figure out if there is anything else they have to do.

I have to tell you also, to answer the obvious question, yes, U.S. military personnel have closely watched over the last several days all of that video coming out of Iran which shows the British sailors and marines. But they also know that those young people may have been under duress, may have been under coercion.

However, what Admiral Mullen did go on to say, for the U.S. Navy, for the U.S. military, there's a very strict code of conduct if they are taken captive in any fashion. And that means name, rank, Social Security number, and, as he said, no conversation -- Don.

LEMON: Barbara, we saw you at this Pentagon briefing earlier, asking some questions. What was the news about Iraq today?

STARR: Ah. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and General Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, were asked a lot of questions about Iraq, as they always are.

Secretary Gates was very low-key today when he was asked how long he thought the surge might last and what signs of progress he saw in Iraq.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ROBERT GATES, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: Everybody is being very careful.

I think that there is a great reluctance to engage in happy talk about this. It's a tough environment. General Petraeus, I think, has been very realistic in his assessments, in terms of what is working and what he is happy with and what concerns him. And I think we will just to wait several more months before we're in a position to make any real evaluation.

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STARR: But Secretary Gates said he hoped that evaluation could at least be made by late summer -- Don.

LEMON: All right, Barbara Starr, thank you so much for that.

Back to Iraq in a moment, but happening now in a Mediterranean cruise -- a Mediterranean cruise ship ends a day early, earlier than planned, passengers and crew of the Sea Diamond forced to abandon ship when it runs aground near the Greek island of Santorini.

When the ship started listing, everyone was ordered off. All are safe ashore now, but the most of the almost 1,600 passengers and crew are American, some of them high school and college students.

Among them was David Land.

And I spoke with his mother, Denise, just a short while ago.

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DENISE LAND, MOTHER OF CRUISE SHIP PASSENGER: They were, I guess, having -- it was 4:00 in the afternoon. They were eating, and they were out of their room. And he saw some people running up with life vests on. And he wanted to go back to his room to get his personal belongings, and they wouldn't let him go.

LEMON: Yes.

LAND: So, they told him to get to the high side. Apparently, it started to tilt, and they had everybody go on the deck on the high side.

LEMON: Yes.

LAND: And when they rushed the group around, he was separated from the group, but, apparently, when they dropped them off at this little island, they -- he got back with his group.

LEMON: Now, you -- you are saying that they made him go to the high side, and you're -- he was, what, on his way to his cabin, or at least, you said.

But did he hear anything, because we understand this is a volcanic area. And so the ship hit some rock under the water. Did he...

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LAND: He said he felt the ship rock a little bit...

LEMON: OK.

LAND: ... and hit it, and that he heard it. But he said he was thinking that maybe they were getting close to port, you know? But he didn't think they had hit anything until he said that his cabin was about knee deep.

LEMON: Yes. Oh, my goodness. So -- and he was on one of the upper decks, right?

LAND: Yes. Yes. He had gone up to eat.

LEMON: And his cabin was knee-deep.

LAND: Yes. He tried to get back, and he could see it.

LEMON: He couldn't do it.

LAND: But he couldn't get back to it.

LEMON: Yes.

So, how you doing?

LAND: It's been a very different day. I'm glad that he's on dry ground.

LEMON: Yes. I bet you are.

LAND: And I hope this does not ruin him against travel.

LEMON: Yes.

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LEMON: And the Greek tourism minister says his department is working with hotels in Athens to find everyone rooms, adding, the Greek government will pick up the tab for that.

KEILAR: Let's get to the latest now on the shooting death of an FBI agent in north central New Jersey. At this point, law enforcement still looking for two suspects. What happened here, FBI agents were investigating a string of recent bank robberies in central New Jersey.

And, at this point, you can see they have -- in this video at this point, this is obviously one of the suspects who they did capture. But FBI agents were investigating this string of bank robberies there in the area, when they came upon some suspects who were leaving a bank. This was near Route 22 in Readington.

And, as you can see, they have one suspect in custody. Two did flee into nearby woods. And, at this point, state and local authorities are still searching for those two suspects. And we will continue to bring you the latest developments in that search for the two suspects in the shooting death of this FBI agent.

And lead us not into temptation. What about the daily avalanche of X-rated spam? Ahead in the CNN NEWSROOM: New Christian ministries fight back against porn.

And this:

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The rules are, there is no noise allowed on this ride. You guys can't scream, can't make any noise at all. Please cover your mouth tightly, like this.

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LEMON: Aha. Silence is golden, even on a high-flying ride.

Keep quiet -- right here in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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KEILAR: Fourteen past the hour now, and here are three of the stories we're working on in the CNN NEWSROOM.

An FBI agent is killed in New Jersey during a shoot-out with bank robbery suspects. Agents were investigating a string of robberies when they came upon three suspects leaving a bank.

And a Greek cruise ship carrying 1,600 passengers, most of the passengers American, was evacuated safely today off the Greek coast. The ship is taking on water after striking rocks.

Add another pet food to the recall list. The FDA says dog biscuits made by Sunshine Mills in Red Bay, Alabama, may be contaminated.

And this just in now: A source has been identified in that peanut butter salmonella outbreak. At this point, a report from the Associated Press says ConAgra Foods said today, moisture from a leaky roof and a faulty sprinkler was the source of that salmonella bacteria that contaminated peanut butter at its Georgia plant last year. That outbreak sickened about 400 people, as you may recall.

LEMON: All right, let's talk about something that David is going to be following on "A.C. 360." It's about a mainstream addiction that has got Christians talking about a lot more than the Bible, right?

CNN's David Mattingly is here now to talk about what's being done about it.

I couldn't believe the statistics on this. We're actually talking about porn.

DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Porn.

LEMON: People watching porn, what, every second of the day, about 28,000 people. That's surprising to me, but you say it's not.

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MATTINGLY: Some Christian ministers say it's a real battle for souls that they are engaged in right now, and they fear that they might be losing, just because there's porn everywhere.

LEMON: Yes.

MATTINGLY: And there's so much temptation.

But we're looking at some of the ministries that are trying to do something about it. And what we are finding, there was one fascinating place I went to in Kentucky where men give up everything for six months -- six months. They get away from their family. They get away from their jobs, all in the hopes of breaking their addiction to porn.

LEMON: Wow.

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MATTINGLY (voice-over): At the Pure Life Ministries in rural central Kentucky, porn addicts spend six months on a desperate path to salvation.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you're given over to lust, fantasies, masturbation or pornography, you are on dangerous ground.

MATTINGLY: Privacy here is nonexistent. New arrivals sleep 16 to a room. There's limited free time, but plenty of time for prayer.

(on camera): I don't see a television. I don't see any computers. Is that by design?

JEFF COLON, HEAD COUNSELOR, PURE LIFE MINISTRIES: Yes, it is. We try to avoid any outside temptation these men might have to deal with through TV or magazines.

MATTINGLY (voice-over): There are no books here either, except for the Bible and study materials, with scriptural lessons on guilt, anger, depression, and selfishness. Head counselor Jeff Colon says the real test is leaving the structured environment and going home.

COLON: We do live in a sexualized culture, and it is difficult for these men when they leave here. It doesn't help.

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MATTINGLY: And now the big question, of course, does it work?

LEMON: Yes. MATTINGLY: I'm going to have to leave you hanging on that one. We want you to watch tonight on "A.C. 360" -- "What Is a Christian?: Sex and Salvation," a special tonight at 10:00.

LEMON: So, there's enough time behind it? Has this been around long enough to figure out if it works or not? You don't have to tell me the answer, but it's been around for a bit, I imagine.

MATTINGLY: It's been around awhile. Hundreds of men have gone to this place. And they all have to come in. They all have to go home and deal with their problem, probably for a lifetime.

LEMON: Yes. Yes.

OK, "What Is a Christian?: Sex and Salvation," "A.C. 360" tonight, 10:00 p.m. Eastern, only here on CNN.

MATTINGLY: That's right.

LEMON: Check David Mattingly out.

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LEMON: Thank you sir.

MATTINGLY: Thank you.

KEILAR: The garden tomb, a tranquil setting, to be sure, but is it a sacred site? Ahead in the NEWSROOM, we ask, was Jesus buried here?

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KEILAR: If you're a screamer, you may want to sit this one out. Mum's the word on a certain amusement park thrill ride in California.

Reporter Gina Villarreal of CNN affiliate KXTV has the story.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just closed my eyes and it felt like I was flying like free. It was so fun.

GINA VILLARREAL, KXTV REPORTER (voice-over): High in the sky, Sacramento's Scandia Screamer is making spring break a blast.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The thrill is so wonderful.

VILLARREAL: It may be a thrill, but there's no screaming going on here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If we hear any noise, we're going to stop the ride and escort you off.

VILLARREAL: A new rule to please some not-so-happy neighbors.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's been a nightmare. It's because, you know, you can't go to bed, and, just, they are so loud.

VILLARREAL: Folks living in this quiet neighborhood say screams at all hours rattle their homes and their patience.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Screaming day and night. I would have to turn the volume up on my TV. I could hear the screams above the television. It was awful.

(LAUGHTER)

VILLARREAL: Neighbors admit the shrieks have calmed a bit. But is it really realistic to enforce silence on the screamer?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Rules are, there is no noise allowed on this ride. You guys can't scream, can't make any noise at all. Please cover your mouth tightly, like this.

VILLARREAL: I listened to their instructions, but, at 65 miles per hour, flying high over I-80, it was easier said than done.

(on camera): Oh, my goodness.

(LAUGHTER)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, the rider will essentially...

VILLARREAL (voice-over): Owners of Scandia Family Fun Center say they have followed every rule, received all the correct permits, and are enforcing silence as a courtesy. And, so far, it's working.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It doesn't just kick in late at night. We have this policy throughout the entire day. There's no screaming, no profanity. There's no noise on this ride.

VILLARREAL: But that's not always the case.

Adrian Virrella (ph) found out the hard way. Her ride suddenly came to a stop.

(on camera): Did you get kicked off because of screaming?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, not because of screaming, but he said he heard a cuss word, though.

VILLARREAL (voice-over): What does she think about the new rule?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It sucks.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. It's taking the fun out of it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That takes all the fun out of it.

VILLARREAL: But others, like Charlie Demar (ph), look at it as a challenge...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, shoot. Yes. VILLARREAL: ... taking on the Scandia Screamer while doing his absolute best to keep calm and quiet.

In Sacramento, Gina Villarreal.

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LEMON: Oh, I don't know if I would get on that thing. I would have to -- I would be screaming like crazy.

So, what if you live in Chicago or Houston, but want to watch the Saint Louis Cardinals? It was a problem, but it's not a problem anymore.

Susan Lisovicz at the New York Stock Exchange here -- Exchange -- here to explain all that.

Hey, Susan.

SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey Don.

So, if you want to see the Cubbies or White Sox.

LEMON: Yes.

LISOVICZ: I'm not sure which team you root for -- maybe both, the diplomat that you are.

Negotiations for this went into extra innings. Fans came out the winner. After months of stalemates, Major League Baseball reached a seven-year agreement with sports programmer iN Demand. The deal will return an MLB package called "Extra Innings" to cable viewers outside a team's local market.

Companies included are Cox, Comcast, and Time Warner Cable, a corporate cousin of CNN. So, if you're a Yankees fan, but live in Florida, you can now see the Bronx Bombers, if you pay iN Demand's subscription fee. And the league is getting what it wants, too. An estimated 40 million homes will be able to see its MLB Channel, a 24- hour baseball network, when it launches in '09. In essence, the MLB used the "Extra Innings" package as a bargaining chip.

Under the agreement, any cable operator that receives access to the package will also have to carry the MLB Channel. So, you will get all baseball all the time -- Don.

LEMON: Yes. Some people are going, what's the big deal? If you are a sports fan, you know this is a huge deal.

(LAUGHTER)

LISOVICZ: Mm-hmm.

LEMON: So, I heard this deal even got the attention of lawmakers.

LISOVICZ: Yes, because a lot of them are baseball fans, too.

(LAUGHTER)

LISOVICZ: Let's face it.

DirecTV, a satellite provider, was originally supposed to have exclusive rights to the "Extra Innings" package. But baseball fans and Congress put pressure on the MLB to extend the deal. Some lawmakers said it was unfair to only allow satellite subscribers to see out-of-market baseball games. A lot of them are out of time (sic) a good portion of the year, right, when they are in Washington.

On Wall Street, the major averages, well, they are hitting. We're not talking about home runs here. But we have a nice winning streak on this last trading day of the week. The stock market will be closed tomorrow for good Friday.

Even though the market will be closed, a major economic report is due out tomorrow morning. That's the monthly numbers of employment. Ahead of that, the Dow industrials are up 33 points, six for six here now for the Dow, six for six so far for the Nasdaq. It's up 10 points or half-a-percent -- not bad at all.

And that's the latest from Wall Street. I will be back in 30 minutes for the closing bell.

You're watching CNN, the most trusted name in news.

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LEMON: All right, some new information just into the CNN NEWSROOM involving the pet food recall. It is expanding. Now, we had told you about Menu Foods. They had problems with their pet foods earlier in March. Well, they are expanding its recall of dog and cat foods to include products with an earlier production date and 20 more varieties.

Now, the company just announced that just a short while ago. It's based in Canada. It says it will now recall all products manufactured with wheat gluten brought from ChemNutra Inc. going back to November 8, 2006. And, as you know, just a couple weeks ago, they recalled 60 million cans of foods and pouches of foods.

Today, also, Sunshine Mills made an announcement, Sunshine Mills in Alabama, recalling dog biscuits made with contaminated wheat gluten. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced that earlier today.

So we have an expansion of the pet food recall. And also more developing news when it comes to this, Senator Dick Durbin from Chicago, Illinois, just announcing just a short while ago that the Senate will hold an oversight hearing on the ongoing investigation into this tainted pet food. And they want to establish new regulatory mechanisms that govern the pet food industry. And they are going to talk about that widespread recall of contaminated food. So two developments here. One, an expansion of the recall and then Senator Dick Durbin also saying that the Senate is going to hold hearings about that pet food contamination. The recalls cover about 100 brands of pet food. And you can find the complete list on a special Web page we've created at CNN. It's cnn.com/petfoodrecall.

KEILAR: Another developing story, ConAgra Foods, which makes Peter Pan Peanut Butter, has identified the cause of a salmonella outbreak in Peter Pan Peanut Butter. It says it discovered it was moisture from a leaky roof and a faulty sprinkler. That was at its Georgia plant last year. This company is based in Omaha, but as we said, it does make Peter Pan Peanut Butter.

Also this recall -- it wasn't just Peter Pan Peanut Butter, it also affected Wal-Mart Great Value Brand Peanut Butter. Those peanut butters from both brands that began in product code 2111 and were made between October 2004 and May of 2006.

We also understand from ConAgra Foods that they are pledging to ensure that Peter Pan Peanut Butter will be safe when it returns to stores. That is expected in mid-July.

LEMON: And now to news overseas. It's the ending everyone was hoping for. Safe, sound and at home, 15 royal marines and sailors getting an energetic welcome just hours after leaving Tehran and 13 days in captivity.

All smiles, of course. New clothes and souvenirs from their almost two weeks in Iran. Fifteen British sailors and marines looking well-fed and healthy. They are back in the United Kingdom and back in the arms of their families.

Before they left Tehran, though, some of the troops made a last appearance on Iranian television. We have translated their comments from Farsi.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): I had a very pleasant stay. I will go back to my country to see my daughter and my family. Under the circumstances, it is apparent that our stay was pleasant in Iran. All our wishes were granted. We do not have any bad feelings towards Iran. And we are indebted to the Iranians. They were kind to us, and they took care of us.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We had a very kind treatment. They were generous and good to us. Many in Britain do not know much about Iran or the Iranian people. I think if the West knew more about Iran, we would witness more cooperation.

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LEMON: Now check out those colorful bags the troops are carrying as they got off the plane there in London. See them? We're told the sailors and the marines received parting gifts from the government of Iran. What's inside? We don't know. We can only guess. Maybe we'll ask our reporters there, if they'll tell them.

KEILAR: All right. Over the past 13 days, Iranian officials took several opportunities to show the British troops to the world. We saw them on television eating, smiling, meeting the president and asserting that what they did in the Persian Gulf was wrong.

You may wonder whether American troops would do the same thing. Well, turns out, that depends. U.S. forces in hostile areas are bound to a set of rules called the code of conduct.

One article of the code is very specific. It says simply: "Should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability, and I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies."

Several conditions have to exist before the code applies to U.S. troops. And we don't know yet whether the Iran incident would qualify. So we asked our military analyst, Brigadier General James Marks about it a short time ago.

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BRIG. GEN. JAMES MARKS (RET.), CNN MILITARY ANALYT: The specification is very, very clear in terms of what you can do. You also understand that the most desirable outcome is for that service member to be set free without loss of life. At the same time, you cannot afford to give up information that would put at danger or risk your brothers and sisters that are in harm's way.

So it's a very thin line you have to walk. But you have to be very, very conscious of the fact that you don't want to get yourself killed but you also don't want to get your buddies killed. So, that's the difficulty. And that's why the regulations specifies very emphatically what should and should not be done.

KEILAR: The point obviously, is to not get into these situations, right? To evade capture from the get-go?

MARKS: Sure, absolutely. It's a thing called SERE training, which is survival, escape, resistance, and then evasion. And what you want to do, in the British sailor and marine instance, in the very first, I would say, evaluation is, they failed on the first count in that they got captured. But the outcome was very, very positive and so they succeeded in the second count in that they escaped. They were given up.

So in a doctrinal sense, the outcome was very, very favorable. You have to look at what they were forced to do and say during that period of captivity. And I would tell you what's happening right now is all of those sailors and marines are being debriefed individually so that they can get into -- they can be forced to remember, and encouraged to remember what took place so they can gather intelligence about this very critical event.

KEILAR: All right, I actually want to get back to that because there is some valuable information that they could bring with them coming out of this situation. But first let's listen to an interview that our Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr did. This is with Admiral Mike Mullen, chief of U.S. Naval operations.

Let's listen to what he said.

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ADM. MICHAEL MULLEN, CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS: My expectation is that American sailors are never seized in a situation like that. And individuals and units are guided by the right of self-defense. They don't have to ask permission to take action to protect themselves.

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KEILAR: So, we've heard -- and he told Barbara Starr that he would just not expect for U.S. sailors to be captured. But is that realistic? I mean, obviously, there has to be a plan B.

MARKS: Of course, I mean, the CNO, the chief of naval operations is absolutely correct in that. As are the British sailors, I mean, their rules of engagement and their terms of resistance are very much the same, right. They're all under the same command and control in the theater of operations in Iraq and in southwest Asia. So they have the same rules of engagement. They have the right to self-defense.

In this particular instance, I do not know what took place specifically aboard that boat at that particular moment, whether they were surprised, whether they realized that if they resisted they all would have been at the end of a barrel and then dumped into the ocean. You don't know what took place.

And that's what has to happen now is there has to be an evaluation, after-action review, very specifically, of the incident, what occurred, what the British sailors and marines did. And it will be determined how you need to move forward. But the real thing is to get to the bottom of the instance of the capture and then what happened afterwards, because there was some great intelligence that needs to be exploited.

KEILAR: What intel might they bring back?

MARKS: Well, it's the type of capture, the individuals that were involved, what type of equipment did they have? What was their activity? What was their location? Did they have a certain type of operating habit that needs to go down so that we can look at other types of operations that they might be conducting? Were other languages being spoken? Was there a kit or equipment from other nations? Were other faces involved? Were there some other folks with the Iranians during that period of capture? A lot of good intelligence can be derived that can be used to better prepare for the next potential incident.

KEILAR: All valuable information. And just one more quick question because we're running out of time here. But would U.S. soldiers have apologized for this infraction that their government would say, in this case, didn't even happen? You know, would they have been released now if it were U.S. soldiers?

MARKS: I would hope not. They are trained not to do that. Absolutely not.

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LEMON: Well, when two U.S. soldiers died in Iraq in February, the Army said they were killed by enemy fire. Today, it is not so sure. Private Matthew Zeimer and Specialist Alan McPeek suffered fatal wounds in Ramadi. Last week their families got word that a friendly fire investigation is under way based on suspicions the two were killed by other U.S. troops.

The Army has received heavy criticism for the way it handled a previous friendly fire case, that of former pro football player Pat Tillman in Afghanistan.

A U.S. Army helicopter crashed south of Baghdad today near the Sunni insurgent strong hold of Latifiyah. All nine personnel survived. But four are hurt. A U.S. military official tells CNN the chopper was damaged by small arms fire but it's not yet clear it was bad enough to cause a crash. Enemy fire is blamed in the crashes or hard landings of eight U.S. military and contractor helicopters in Iraq this year.

KEILAR: With U.S. helicopters coming under frequent fire in Iraq, veteran pilots are teaching newcomers what to expect. CNN's senior Pentagon correspondent Jamie McIntyre went to Fort Rucker, Alabama, for a first-hand look at the training.

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JAMIE MCINTYRE, CNN SENIOR PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): At the Army's Aviation Warfighting Center in Fort Rucker, Alabama, it's the job of aging veterans to keep rookie students from getting shot down. The pilots and students are all well aware that this year in Iraq, U.S. helicopters have become a favorite target of insurgents, too often, with deadly results.

But it is not the first thing on their mind.

1ST LT. CURTIS WILLIAMS, APACHE STUDENT PILOT: I want to focus on training to make sure that I am ready for when my time comes, if something like that is to arise.

MCINTYRE: 1st Lieutenant Curtis Williams has been a soldier since the first Gulf War in 1991 and now he's itching to fly an Apache in a war zone. In particular, he's grateful his IP, instructor pilot, is just back from the front lines.

(on camera): Did you have any close calls when you were in Iraq?

CW3 GREG SANDERS, APACHE INSTRUCTOR PILOT: I sure did.

MCINTYRE: You are flying in Iraq, you're in a combat situation, you're the pilot, what are you thinking?

SANDERS: Self preservation. You have to think about yourself and take care of yourself and the aircraft to be effective in a combat multiplier.

MCINTYRE (voice-over): Alan Mays is another veteran instructor with Iraq experience. He sat down in the cockpit of his Kiowa Scout Helicopter to show me how not to get shot out of the skies.

CW3 ALAN MAYS, KIOWA INSTRUCTOR PILOT: Our primary thing is air speed is life. We never stop flying. We never come to a stationary hover and we don't have to as a scout pilot because we go forward on the battlefield.

MCINTYRE: Mays is reluctant to give away the latest tactics, he knows anything he reveals on CNN could help the enemy. But he confirms that reports from the front lines are incorporated into every lesson.

MAYS: We pass that off to our students. These things are happening. These are the tactics that the enemy are using and this is how we can combat some of those tactics.

W01 ERICK KNARZER, KIOWA STUDENT PILOT: I'm extremely confident. The IPs we have here I think are the best pilots around. And the machine is fantastic. I would not have wanted to fly this helicopter if I wasn't confident. And I love this helicopter.

MCINTYRE: It won't be long before Erick Knarzer and his fellow Army pilots, test their mettle in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Jamie McIntyre, CNN, Fort Rucker, Alabama.

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LEMON: A top U.S. diplomat is going on a sensitive mission. Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte leaves for Africa next week to discuss the crisis in Darfur, where Sudan is accused of supporting genocide. Negroponte will also visit Chad where hundreds of thousands of Darfur refugees are now living, and Libya, condemned until recently, as a state sponsor of terrorism. Negroponte will be the highest-ranking U.S. official to visit Libya in decades.

KEILAR: The nation's top elected Democrat is winding up her Middle East tour with a key U.S. ally. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she and Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah talked about ways to bring peace to that region as well as to war-torn Somalia and Darfur. She said they did not discuss the king's recent criticism of the U.S. occupation of Iraq, but she did bring up the lack of women in political office in the Saudi kingdom.

LEMON: Conspiring with suicide bombers. That's a charge filed against three men in England, the first suspects charged in the 2005 terror attacks on London's transit system. Fifty-two people were killed in those subway and bus bombings. More than 900 others wounded. Prosecutors say the men charged today helped plan those bombings. And for the first time, investigators reveal tourist attractions also may have been targets. And they expect more arrests.

The parents of John Walker Lindh, the so-called American Taliban, want President Bush to commute his 20-year sentence. Lindh was captured in Afghanistan by U.S. forces in 2001. He was charged with conspiring to kill Americans and support terror but eventually pleaded guilty to lesser offenses, offenses similar to those admitted by the so-called Australian Taliban David Hicks, who got a seven-year term.

KEILAR: The Garden Tomb, it's a tranquil setting, to be sure, but is it a sacred site? Ahead in the NEWSROOM, we ask, was Jesus buried here?

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KEILAR: The suffering and death of Jesus. It's the focus of Holy Week for Christians all over the world. Thousands have flocked to Jerusalem to visit sacred sites as well as sites that may seem sacred but probably aren't.

CNN's Atika Shubert takes us to one such place.

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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Garden Tomb stands under a skull-shaped hill, beside a tranquil garden with a number of ancient tombs, just as the Bible describes the tomb of Jesus, but historians and archaeologists say something is amiss.

FATHER JEROME MURPHY O'CONNOR, BIBLICAL SCHOLAR: Nobody believes that it has any authenticity as a historical site.

SHUBERT: These tombs date hundreds of years before the time of Jesus. Because the Book of John says that Jesus' tomb was newly made, it can't be the older tombs found here. In fact, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is widely believed to be the most likely location of Jesus' tomb. Why then is the Garden Tomb so popular, especially with Protestants?

O'CONNOR: A lot of Protestants believe in the Garden Tomb precisely because the Christian groups who own the Holy Sepulchre won't let them pray there.

SHUBERT: The Garden Tomb is not the only alternative. A new documentary by American filmmaker James Cameron argues that a recently discovered tomb with the inscription "Jesus, son of Joseph" is the right place. Archaeologists point out that Jesus was such a common name, there are multiple tombs with the name Jesus.

STEPHEN PFANN, HOLY LAND UNIVERSITY: Seventy-five percent of the population had either one or another of the 16 names that we're talking about right now. It just simply is no great consequence to find a Jesus son of Joseph.

SHUBERT (on camera): Here at the Garden Tomb, guides remind us that the Bible says Jesus was resurrected and so it shouldn't matter the exact location of where Jesus' burial place is. Instead, they say, the Garden Tomb shows what that tomb may have looked like and provides a place for spiritual reflection.

Atika Shubert, CNN, Jerusalem.

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LEMON: Well, a homeowner comes home to a nightmare, ripped off and vandalized after a Web site listing. That amazing story is straight ahead in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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KEILAR: We just got word that a Senate oversight committee is planning to investigate contaminated pet food. Senator Dick Durbin, majority whip, says the hearings will start next week when Congress comes back from its Easter break.

Also, Menu Foods just announced it's recalling 20 more products and widening the previous recall by including earlier production dates. The Food and Drug Administration today made an addition of its own. It says dog biscuits from Sunshine Mills in Red Bay, Alabama, contain a potentially deadly toxin.

So here are the ones that you are going to want to throw out. The brands include Field Trial Large Plain, Nurture Chicken and Rice, Nurture Lamb and Rice, Pet Life Large, Pet Life Extra Large, Pet Life Large Variety, Pet Life Large Peanut Butter, Lassie Chicken and Rice, Lassie Lamb and Rice, and Pet Life People Pleasers Dog Treats.

Also, Private Label biscuits for five of Sunshine's customers were also affected. So go ahead and throw those out. The recalls cover almost 100 brands of pet food. And you can find the complete list on a special page that we've created at cnn.com. That's cnn.com/petfoodrecall.

LEMON: Think you're not prone to anger? Well, if you were the person in this next story you might be. It's an ad on a Web site. Well, it said, come and get it. And they did. Trouble is, the homeowner did not know anything about it. We get the story from Trisha Manning Smith of CNN affiliate KING in Seattle.

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TRISHA MANNING SMITH, KING REPORTER (voice-over): The outside of her home is trashed. The inside is nearly gutted and covered in graffiti. Laurie Ray is devastated.

LAURIE RAYE, VANDALIZED HOMEOWNER: But it hurts. I was attached to this home because it used to be my mom's.

SMITH: A phone caller alerted Raye to the destruction. She walked through her garbage-strewn front yard to find her house dismantled.

RAYE: Including the front door. This used to be a nice vinyl window here. SMITH: From the light fixtures to the hot water heater, everything is gone, including the kitchen sink. Her neighbors later reported seeing strangers hauling stuff away from her home, seemingly looking for salvage material.

RAYE: Because in the ad it said, come and take what you want, everything is free.

SMITH: This is the ad posted on Craigslist last weekend.

DET. GRETCHEN ELLIS, TACOMA POLICE: Please help yourself to anything on the property.

SMITH: An off-duty Tacoma police officer noticed the Craigslist ad last week inviting people to enter the unlocked house and take whatever they wanted. Later that same officer noticed the ad was flagged and canceled after a reported burglary at the house.

ELLIS: We get a lot of scans off of Craigslist. We have had prostitution things happen. We've had rental scams, fraudulent activity, that type of thing. And in this case, it appears that items were just being given away which they were not.

RAYE: This can happen to anybody but look what happened to me.

SMITH: Raye believes the unknown person who posted the added carries a personal grudge against her, but that person also conned unsuspecting people into taking part.

RAYE: The instigator that published this ad invited the public to come in and vandalize me.

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KEILAR: That is scary.

LEMON: I saw you were watching the story like this.

KEILAR: Well, I've used Craigslist, so that is -- it's very scary. And a lot of people use Craigslist.

LEMON: A lot of people use it. And you know what? The homeowner did say she got in touch with Craigslist but they said they couldn't give her -- tell her who posted that ad without a subpoena or a search warrant.

KEILAR: Oh, my goodness.

LEMON: So there you go.

KEILAR: All right. Well, the closing bell and a wrap of all of the action on Wall Street straight ahead.

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