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Nancy Grace

NBC News Receives Video From V. Tech Gunman

Aired April 18, 2007 - 20:00   ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight in the deadliest shooting in U.S. history leaving 33 dead in the early morning at Virginia Tech campus. Bombshell tonight, all the warning signs were there. This guy was a ticking time bomb. Could this bloody shooting spree have been stopped? Tonight, we learn not only was the 23-year-old shooter, Cho Seung-Hui, just released from mental treatment and diagnosed as a, quote, "imminent danger," but was free to roam the campus as he wished.
Also tonight, the stunning revelation, 27 videos released that Seung- Hui mailed to NBC News, videos of himself ranting about his own seething hatred, in addition to the shooter`s own original multi-media manifesto and confession, all of it brimming with hate, reportedly mailed between the shootings! He went to the mailbox! All the warning signs were there, a tragedy waiting to happen, Seung-Hui already confronted about his behavior, stalking numerous women on campus, even teachers speaking out in fear, alerting the administration. Nothing was done! And tonight, 33 bodies wait to be carried home to grieving families.

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CHO SEUNG-HUI, VIRGINIA TECH GUNMAN: When the time came, I did it. I had to.

You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today, Cho says. But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off.

I didn`t have to do this. I could have left. I could have fled. But no, I will no longer run. It`s not for me, for my children, for my brothers and sisters that you (DELETED), I did it for them.

You just loved to crucify me. You loved terrorizing my heart and raping my soul all this time.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us tonight. You just heard newly released video from NBC News by the Virginia Tech gunman, Cho Seung-Hui. Here is some more of that newly released video from the shooter.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHO: To you sadistic snobs, I may be nothing but a piece of (DELETED). You have vandalized my heart, raped my soul and torched my conscience. You thought it was one pathetic`s boy`s life you were extinguishing. Thanks to you, I die like Jesus Christ, to inspire generations of the weak and the defenseless people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Incredible, seething with hatred. That was the newly released video from NBC News, video sent 27 different clips, along with photos and a multi-page, very dense manifesto about his hatred. That was sent to NBC News by the Virginia Tech gunman, Cho Seung-Hui. And it is believed that, based on the postscripts there, that it was actually sent between the shootings! He was at the post office! He was at a mailbox. Could he have been stopped?

Joining us tonight, CNN correspondent Brianna Keilar. Brianna, what`s the latest?

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Nancy, as you said it, he sent this, what`s being called a multi-media manifesto to NBC News in New York, postmarked at 9:01 AM. As you recall, that first shooting occurred Monday at 7:15 AM, or that`s when the first reports came in of it. The reports of the second shooting came in at 9:45 AM. So that was approximately 40 minutes before that second shooting that this was sent.

Now, we understand, as you said, there were 23, or 20-something, rather, Quicktime videos where Cho is addressing the camera. We heard some of that. He likens himself to Jesus Christ. He says that, "You raped my soul and torched my conscience." And he pretty much blames this on people, saying, You forced my hand in this, basically, Nancy.

GRACE: Yes, he blames everybody but himself. With us there on the scene not only CNN correspondent Brianna Keilar, but WFIR talk radio`s Tim Martin. Tim, Brianna`s right. I`ve been trying to write down and analyze what was in his rant, his manifesto. He talks about, "Have you ever had trash shoved down your throat? Have you ever had to dig your own grave? Have you ever been humiliated, torched alive?" It goes on and on and on, his hatred of other people.

What can you tell me about the locations there on campus? Where could he have actually mailed this, Tim Martin, between shootings?

TIM MARTIN, WFIR: Well, it`s not that difficult. Basically, every college campus has a place where you go and mail things. And from where his building was located, it`s not that far to get to.

This whole development is stunning. And what we`re learning from what NBC News said is that there was a problem when he went to mail it. He didn`t have the right Zip code, and that`s why it was so delayed in getting to NBC News, because the Zip code was wrong. They just got it today.

And something to note. In all these videos and documents, he`s talking about "you," You had a billion chances to stop this, you, you, you. What we want to know, what everyone is trying to figure out tonight is, who is he talking to?

GRACE: Well, another question -- back to you, Brianna Keilar with CNN. If he started the shootings, as we know, a little after 7:00 AM -- we know where this package, this multi-media manifesto was dropped off, I believe we do -- where is that in relation to the two facilities where he unloaded?

KEILAR: You know, I don`t know the exact location at this point, Nancy. I know that authorities are looking into exactly where it was dropped off. But from what we can tell -- we don`t know about post office facilities on campus, but we understand that there are a couple within about a half mile from the campus. So presumably, it would have been very easy for him to get there. It certainly wouldn`t have been difficult, especially with two-and-a-half hours between the two crime scenes.

GRACE: Well, apparently, there is so much information in this package this guy mailed to NBC just to inflict a little more pain on the victims` families and make them have to see this after their children are dead. Take a listen to this.

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CHO: Do you know what it feels like to be spit on your face and have trash shoved down your throat? Do you know what it feels like to dig your own grave? Do you know what it feels like to have your throat slashed from ear to ear? Do you know what it feels like to be torched alive? Do you know what it feels like to be humiliated and be impaled -- impaled upon a cross and left to bleed to death for your amusement?

You have never felt a single ounce of pain in your whole life, yet you want to inject as much misery in our life as you can, just because you can. You`ve had everything you wanted. Your Mercedes wasn`t enough, you brats. Your golden necklaces weren`t enough, you snobs. Your trust fund wasn`t enough, your vodka and cognac weren`t enough, all your debaucheries weren`t enough. Those weren`t enough to fulfill your hedonistic needs. You`ve had everything.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That again is from this newly released video that the shooter apparently mailed to NBC studios in New York, mailed by the Virginia Tech gunman, Cho Seung-Hui. Many people wondering tonight, Did he have help in taking these photos, taking these videos and writing this incredibly hateful and bitter manifesto?

Out to Harvey Barker. He is a special guest joining us tonight. He is the director at Access, the emergency -- an adult clinical service. He worked at a mental health facility that evaluated Cho back in 2005. Mr. Barker, thank you for being with us -- Dr. Barker, that is. Thank you for being with us.

HARVEY BARKER, DIRECTOR, ACCESS MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY: My pleasure.

GRACE: Dr. Barker, a lot of people are wondering, since this guy was evaluated after stalking several women on campus, after professors being afraid of him, why was he left to roam free on campus?

BARKER: Well, actually, our involvement with the situation -- we are charged with -- by the code of Virginia, to be an agency that provides an independent evaluation when there`s a possibility that somebody might need hospitalization against their will.

I can`t comment specifically about this case, other than the fact that we were called to do an evaluation on him by the Virginia Tech police. My emergency service staff came out and evaluated him. The result of that evaluation was to make a recommendation that he be temporarily detained for further evaluation. We make a recommendation to the local magistrate because this is a judicial process. And at that point, the decision is to either release a person or to have him temporarily detained.

With being in police custody at the time, as soon as the evaluation was over and the magistrate issued a temporary detention order, at that point this -- an individual would be taken to a mental health facility for further evaluation.

GRACE: So bottom line, this is a mixture of the judicial process and the mental health process. And apparently tonight, we have learned that there are records in not one but two medical facilities that cops are trying to subpoena.

Out to the lines. Snow in Colorado. Hi, Snow.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. Thanks for taking my call.

GRACE: Yes, ma`am. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`d like to know if the authorities have been in contact with the killer`s parents. And if so, why haven`t they made some sort of statement?

GRACE: To Brianna Keilar, CNN correspondent. I`ve been trying to find out why the parents haven`t come forward with some type of statement, Brianna. Where are they?

BARKER: Apparently, they`re holed up and they`re not speaking with the media. But that doesn`t mean they`re not speaking with the authorities. I believe a search warrant was executed on their home, but that it actually wasn`t even needed, that they did search the home, that the parents were there at the time and they gave permission. So they have been in touch with the authorities, but they`re certainly not talking with the media.

GRACE: Let`s unleash the lawyers, Renee Rockwell, Ray Giudice. Take a listen to this. There were a half a dozen red flags, a half a dozen, four students, two, possibly three women that he stalked or harassed, a student calling authorities and stating he feared Cho was suicidal, one professor being so afraid of his rantings, she had a code word that she would use if she was in fear, all of this brought to the attention of the administration, and nothing happened!

Ray Giudice, do they face liability tonight? We`ve got 33 dead bodies.

RAY GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, I don`t think there`s any criminal liability on their behalf, but I would expect, if I was their counsel, that I`d be receiving lawsuits sometime within the next 30 days. There`s obviously some defenses, the issue of sovereign immunity. This is a state or public institution. But there are a bunch of warning signs, and the issue becomes in the law, Was this foreseeable? And you flagged, or attached many of the red flags to this, and that`s going to be the legal issue.

GRACE: Renee?

RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: And not only that, Nancy, but excuse me, between the first and the second shooting, even if there were no red flags, you would imagine that something should have been done, some alert, something to notify the students to go back to their rooms. I see a ton of lawsuits.

GRACE: Tonight, newly released video is stunning the crime and justice community, as well as the victims` families. The shooter apparently sent video, 27 different segments of himself ranting and spewing. Here is some of what they received.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHO: I didn`t have to do this. I could have left. I could have fled. But no, I will no longer run. It`s not for me, for my children, for my brothers and sisters that you (DELETED), I did it for them.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Brothers and sisters? Children? Who`s he talking about? That`s the video just released by NBC News tonight that has been produced and sent by the Virginia Tech gunman, Cho Seung-Hui.

With us tonight, another special guest, William Giel, who refuses to allow his daughter to return to Virginia Tech. And sir, I don`t blame you. What is your thinking?

WILLIAM GIEL, FATHER OF VIRGINIA TECH STUDENT: Well, Nancy, I`ve been really going through a lot of problems, and today is, I think, as bad as the massacre with these tapes released. And I don`t feel that the school has a mechanism in place, nor the administration to handle this type of a problem. And I really have a problem with my daughter going back.

GRACE: Mr. Giel, where was your daughter at the time of the shootings?

GIEL: She was on her way to class, which is right near where the second firings took place. And she heard the gunfire, immediately turned around and went back to her -- she lives off campus -- and went back to her apartment, then attempted to try to call us to find out what was going on. At that time, she still didn`t know what was happening.

GRACE: Mr. Giel, just hearing you recount how close your daughter was to being part of this is very, very disturbing. What was your response when you saw this video the shooter sent to NBC?

GIEL: Well, like I said, Nancy, this is almost as disheartening. I guess now I`m as close to it as she was because I can only go by the -- right now, she`s extremely disturbed. She`s having trouble with sleeping, with talking, with anything. And now that these are released, I wonder, How can this get by? This is a professional institution that has a nut case on the loose. And he`s telling you, I`m a nut case, and no one`s doing anything about it. How many more do I have at Virginia Tech with the same MO?

GRACE: Also with us tonight, a dormitory mate of the shooter. He actually saw him the morning of the shooting. Tonight, Karan Grewal is with us. Welcome, Karan. What can you tell us about this guy?

KARAN GREWAL, DORM MATE OF GUNMAN: Nothing, really. In nine months that I stayed with him, I did not have one conversation with him. In August, when we all moved in, I introduced myself to him, but he looked away, pretended as if he didn`t hear me or notice that I was there at all.

GRACE: You know, it`s amazing to me that after nine months, he would never engage you in conversation. What were your observations of him when you saw him?

GREWAL: When I saw the video this evening, the video that came out in the news, it was shocking. Like I said, in the entire nine months, he never spoke one word to me or in front of me to anybody else. He kept his eyes down on the floor when he walked, never looked you straight in the eyes. So when I saw him looking straight into the camera, it was shocking.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ryan Clark, marching band member, a resident adviser and triple major, a senior from Georgia and one of the first killed. Reema Joseph Samaha, a freshman from Centreville, Virginia, who loved to dance more than anything else. G.V. Loganathan, 51 years old, an engineering professor educated in India and Purdue University. Nineteen- year-old Emily Jane Hilscher, an animal lover. A friend calls her friendly and helpful. Thirty-two families.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`ve lost a brother, you know. I had two, now I just have one. And I lost a friend. I lost part of my heart.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: This morning in Virginia, I saw this at a newsstand. It`s "The Roanoke Times," and it says something about the tragedy. A Holocaust survivor, a Christian teenager, engineers, artists, animal lovers and bookworms. The victims of this massacre were a cross-section of the human condition. His wrath knew no boundaries. It didn`t matter who he shot.

Out to Brianna Keilar. It seems as if all the people he`s referring to in his tirade -- who are they? Who`s "you" that he hates so much? He`s talking about Mercedes and gold chains and debauchery and Christians. It doesn`t even make sense.

BARKER: And he goes on to talk about snobs. It does sound, officials have said, like he sort of had a rich kid complex, like he was railing against rich kids. But keep in mind, NBC News president, Steve Capus, like the rest of us, saying, you know, this is hard to follow. It was disturbing. It was angry. It was profanity-laced. No doubt considering the magnitude of what happened here on Monday, this was not the product of a sound mind, Nancy.

GRACE: Here is more of that just released video this guy, this shooter sent to NBC studios.

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CHO: You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today, but you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: "You, you, you," blaming everybody but himself. That`s part of the video just released by NBC studios. That was the shooter himself.

Out to Bill in Illinois. Hi, Bill.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi, Nancy. Love your show.

GRACE: Thank you, dear. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, my question is, why did not Access contact the state police or the ATF and put a block on him from buying a gun? In Illinois, when someone checks into a mental health facility, the facility reports it to the state and that blocks them from purchasing any guns.

GRACE: What about that, Detective Lieutenant Steve Rogers (ph)? Is that possible? I think he`s right about Illinois.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, he is. But I`ve got to tell you, and here`s the kicker, Nancy, in many states, the police can do a criminal history check and a person could be convicted of nothing, clean record, but we can`t get our hands on mental health reports.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Matthew La Porte of Dumont, New Jersey, studying political science and French. Kevin Granata, an award-winning biomechanics researcher who still found time to coach his children`s sports teams. Twenty -- year-old Ross Alameddine, a sophomore from Massachusetts. His friends are using his Myspace page to say good-bye. Liviu Librescu, an Israeli professor who reportedly held the door to his classroom shut while his students jumped out a window.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was a hero of a level which I didn`t even think my father could be.

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GRACE: There were so many red flags, so many bells of alarm about this guy who has now turned out to be the shooter in the deadliest shooting in U.S. history, at of all places, a college campus.

Out to Brianna Keilar. What happened the first time one of these girls who were stalked went to police?

BARKER: Well, in the first stalking incident, like the second incident, police were called in, Nancy. But what`s interesting about the first incident, police tell us they referred Cho in this case to the university Office of Judicial Review, sort of for an internal review. And they say they`re not sure what happened there. What`s particularly interesting here is they tell us the -- that law protects the records of students in death, and also from parents, so we may never know what came of that review.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Friends and family came to comfort Michael Pohle`s parents, but there was so little comfort to be found. He was a senior majoring in biological sciences. He loved football and lacrosse, played lacrosse at Virginia Tech. Michael Pohle was two weeks from graduating.

The flags flew at half staff in memory of Julia Pryde. She was 23 years old and a competitive swimmer who played softball in local summer leagues. Julia was a semester away from a master`s degree and a lifetime of promise.

Caitlin Hammaren was a sophomore at Virginia Tech, with majors in French and international studies. She was a member of the National Honor Society. She was just 19 years old.

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GRACE: We know who the victims are. We know who the shooter is. But the lingering question: Why? Take a look at a mirror into the heart and the mind of the Virginia Tech killer.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHO SEUNG-HUI, VIRGINIA TECH SHOOTER: ... I`ve been nothing but a piece of (bleep). You have vandalized my heart, rapes my soul, and torched my conscience. You thought it was one pathetic boy`s life you were extinguishing. Thanks to you, I die, like Jesus Christ, to inspire generations of the weak and the defenseless people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: The rant goes on and on and on. That`s part of that newly released video the killer sent to NBC studios. The killer, Cho Seung-Hui, a student there at Virginia Tech. That`s not all. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEUNG-HUI: Do you know what it feels like to be spit on your face and have trash shoved down your throat? Do you know what it feels like to dig your own grave? Do you know what it feels like to have your throat slashed from ear to ear? Do you know what it feels like to be torched alive? Do you know what it feels like to be humiliated and be impaled upon a cross and left to bleed to death for your amusement?

You have never felt a single ounce of pain your whole life. Did you want to inject that much misery in your life as you can, just because you can? You got everything you wanted. Your Mercedes wasn`t enough, you brats. Your golden necklaces weren`t enough, you snobs. Your trust fund wasn`t enough. Your vodka and cognac weren`t enough. All your debaucheries weren`t enough. Those weren`t enough to fulfill your hedonistic needs. You had everything.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Your hedonistic needs? This guy was not wanting himself. His parents very well to do, sending him to school. That was part of the newly released video that he apparently sent to NBC studios in New York. I`m referring to the Virginia Tech gunman, Cho Seung-Hui.

Out to one of his dorm mates, Karan Grewal, who actually saw him the morning of the shooting. I`m sure you`ve seen this video. Do you have any idea where it was taken?

KARAN GREWAL, GUNMAN`S DORMITORY MATE: I have no idea where...

GRACE: Go ahead, Karan.

GREWAL: When I saw the pictures at first, I didn`t know where they were taken. But when I looked at the walls, the walls look exactly like how they look in the common area in our suite. The chair that he was sitting on is the same color as in our suite, but they`re the same color as in any other suite on the Virginia Tech campus.

GRACE: Was this guy a techie? Was he familiar in how to make self- videos, how to take the -- he sent like between 23 and 27 to NBC. And if this was taken there in the dormitory, I mean, this guy never uttered a word. After all this time, you hardly knew him. Did anyone ever notice...

GREWAL: Exactly. Exactly. I never saw him taking a video or even with a camcorder, with a still camera even. Most times when I saw him, he was just on his computer working on a Word document. And until now, I just thought he was really shy and just didn`t want to talk. But ever since I`ve seen the videos of him talking and taking those pictures, it just scares me to think maybe he was just putting on an act just to hide what he was doing.

GRACE: What type of interaction would you have? Would you try to talk to him, invite him to go to lunch? I mean, what did you observe him doing besides tapping on his computer?

GREWAL: Well, in the beginning of the semester, I tried introducing myself to him, but he ignored any kind of conversation that anybody brought up. He would act as if he never heard you or pretend that nobody was there. He would just stare into space or look away, no expression on his face.

GRACE: Were you familiar with the fact that he actually, although he was never seen with a girl, although we know he had contact with girls -- he stalked them -- of course, nothing was ever done about that. We think that there might be three stalking victims. Did you ever hear him refer to his supermodel girlfriend?

GREWAL: No. The entire nine months that I lived with him, most of the times he was alone. And like I said, he was either on his laptop or watching TV late at night. But never. I wouldn`t say he was acting weird or talking to himself or talking into space. He just sat there, staring, either at walls or at his computer.

GRACE: Were you surprised when you learned he is the shooter?

GREWAL: Definitely, I was amazed to learn that it was him. Even when the police were there Monday night in our dormitory, searching our rooms, it didn`t cross my mind until they actually confirmed that it was our suitemate that did the horrible thing that happened Monday morning.

GRACE: With us tonight, Polly Franks. Her daughter attends Virginia Tech. Ms. Franks, thank you for being with us.

POLLY FRANKS, MOTHER OF TECH STUDENT: Thank you.

GRACE: Apparently none of the students had any idea that this guy was a ticking time bomb, but not so for the administration, Ms. Franks.

FRANKS: Absolutely not. I mean, this guy was a -- I`m surprised it took him this long to blow up.

GRACE: Now, it`s my understanding that you have a child there at campus?

FRANKS: Yes.

GRACE: And where was she when all of this happened?

FRANKS: She was walking across campus about 9:30, oblivious to everything, because, of course, she had not been forewarned, and almost got run over by the SWAT team coming barreling into the campus. So she realized that this is not normal, so she wisely went back to her apartment.

GRACE: Out to the lines, Amber in Illinois. Hi, Amber.

CALLER: Hi, Nancy. I admire you and love your show.

GRACE: Thank you, dear.

CALLER: My question is, after incidents such as like Columbine, why, on a campus of this size, was there not surveillance cameras in the dorms or in the halls that could have maybe prevented some of this?

GRACE: Let`s go to one of the professors there. He is not just a professor there; he is also a victim, a very close friend of one of the other victims. With us tonight is Professor Kuppuswami. He is a retired professor of engineering.

Professor, can you hear me?

PROF. T. KUPPUSWAMI, RETIRED VIRGINIA TECH PROFESSOR: Yes. Yes. I`m here.

GRACE: Thank you for being with us. A lot of parents are wondering why the alarm that went out to students was simply an e-mail notice. What do you think about that?

KUPPUSWAMI: Nancy, for the past two days, we are so busy with the family, I never thought about all of those things. A lot of new things are coming out. We don`t have any opinion right now. And I was with the family. I was a close friend of Jeannie Loganathan. Myself and my wife are spending much of the time in the last two days with Rusha (ph), the wife of Jeannie Loganathan. I never watched any television or read all those things. I don`t have any opinion at all. I don`t have any idea at all what`s going on.

GRACE: Professor Kuppuswami, how long did you know Professor Loganathan?

KUPPUSWAMI: I know him for the past 25 years, as a colleague and as a personal friend. He is a family friend. We come from India, from the same place, so that is a common bond for us. We speak the same language, and that is why our family friendship is growing so much, very close. I think it`s a big shock to us.

GRACE: Professor, isn`t it true that Loganathan leaves behind two daughters?

KUPPUSWAMI: Yes. He has two daughters. The first daughter is 21 years old. She is going to graduate next month. And then another one is 13 years old. She`s in middle school. Yes, it`s a really big tragedy right now for us. I don`t know how we are going to recover from this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He got shot twice in the upper thigh.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Twenty-one-year-old Kevin Sterne`s mom was out shopping for his upcoming graduation when she got the unimaginable call: She learned a bullet had hit her son. In all likelihood, he was bleeding to death.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was an Eagle Scout. He wrapped a wire cord from apparently an electrical -- something electrical within that classroom. He wrapped it tightly, and I think he had one of the other students help him wrap this around his leg, because he knew he was bleeding to death.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Still several minutes had passed. The major artery supplying blood to his leg was shredded apart. The skin and muscle would start to die; just a little more time and his heart would die, as well. Finally, 30 hours after the ordeal began, good news...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s stable, and I think he`s going to be here a while.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kevin will walk out of the hospital, both his leg and his life saved.

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GRACE: As we go to air tonight, even more video being released by NBC. Apparently the gunman sent a huge manifesto, ranting, full of hatred, and between 23 and 27 mini-videos of himself. Here`s the newest.

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SEUNG-HUI: I did it. I had to.

You love to crucify me. You love inducing cancer in my head and terrorizing my heart and raping my soul all this time.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Clearly reading for the camera, knowing that this would arrive at NBC, further inflicting pain on the victims` families. That is part of the newly released video from NBC, video created and mailed by the Virginia Tech gunman, Cho Seung-Hui. Here`s more.

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SEUNG-HUI: I didn`t have to do this. I could have left. I could have fled. But I will no longer run. It`s not for me. It`s for my children, for my brothers and sisters that you (bleep). I did it for them.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Run from what? His parents, upper middle class, had their own business. He`s there getting an education. A lot of people would kill for that. That`s more of the NBC video.

To you, Dr. Jeff Gardere, run from what? Revenge on who?

JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Revenge against society. This is a person that, no matter how many people reached out to him -- and we know a lot of people reached out to him -- he saw them as the enemy. He saw himself as someone who had absolutely no power, was a victim, and anytime they tried to talk to him, they were intruding on this fantasy where he had this messiah complex.

Nancy, quite frankly, this is a person who had a severe personality and paranoid disorder. And unlike a schizophrenic that you can treat with medication, these personality paranoid disorders have lifelong maladaptive behaviors, so that`s why they`re below the radar. They`re not talking to themselves, but they`re not talking to other people, so they cloak their mental illness.

GRACE: Here is more of the newly released video from NBC.

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SEUNG-HUI: You had 100 billion chances and ways to have avoided today, but you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: The hatred, the hatred that is just spewing from this guy.

Joining us tonight, Reverend Franklin Graham, counseling students at Virginia Tech. Reverend, thank you for being with us. What do you say when faced with the simple question, why?

REV. FRANKLIN GRAHAM, COUNSELING STUDENTS: That there`s not an easy question to answer. I don`t know why. But I do know that God loves us, and he loves every one of those kids up there at that university. He loves not only you, Nancy. He loves me. And he gave his son, Jesus Christ, to die on a cross for the sins of all mankind.

And this young man that we have seen on television with this hatred and what he did, he was filled with evil. And we have seen evil manifest itself Monday there at Virginia Tech.

But yet we have seen today, when I was there on campus, some wonderful people that are coming together, pulling together. And, Nancy, we need to pray for these students. We need to pray for the faculty. We need to pray for the law enforcement. We need to pray for the administrators. This is going to be a tough time, and it`s not going to be something that they can get over quickly or easily.

GRACE: What did you see, Reverend Graham, on campus today?

GRAHAM: I met with students, and sometimes, Nancy, you don`t say anything. You just stand with them, and you hug them, you listen, and sometimes you just stand beside them. And I did that today.

GRACE: Out to the lines, Sharon in South Carolina. Hi, Sharon.

CALLER: Hi, Nancy. I`m just wondering, whose responsibility is it to track a troubled student like this?

GRACE: Let`s unleash the lawyers again, Renee Rockwell, Ray Giudice. Ray, we know that at least one, I believe two professors went to the administration. I mean, where`s the headline on that newspaper? It says, "Teacher warned the administration."

RAY GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, it really seems to me that nowhere along the line anybody was willing to take responsibility and say, "I`m going to do something about this young man. I`m going to force him off campus. I`m going to force him into counseling."

And I want to just say that I think that his high school records might be very enlightening. I don`t think a person gets this mean, sick and twisted in just a couple years of college. I think this started a long time ago. And people passed the buck on him, hoping he`d straighten out or find himself at VT.

GRACE: Right. OK.

Look at this headline. It was screaming from every newsstand there in Roanoke, "Teacher had warned Virginia Tech." Renee, don`t tell me nobody...

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RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: No, Nancy, not only a lawsuit do I see, but a lot of blood on a lot of hands. I`m looking at a court order, where he was brought before a magistrate, and the magistrate could have put him in for treatment. But there was an alternative here. And I just think that there will be a lot of answers.

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GRACE: Tonight, our thoughts and prayers to those suffering in the wake of the Virginia Tech tragedy.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The world was watching you even in the darkest moment in the history of this university. The world saw you and saw you respond in a way that built community, your spirit, even in the dark day, of optimism and community and hope and wanting to be together. And you taught something good yesterday, even in a dark day, to people all around the world, and the world needs that example before it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Those of us who were not present in those buildings have been traumatized vicariously. We have watched what happened to our loved ones, and we are sad. And we know that we are sad, and our sadness will continue as we mourn the losses, and we continue to mourn them. But we will survive. We will survive to honor the memories of each of those students and faculty who have died.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are strong, and brave, and innocent, and unafraid. We are better than we think and not quite what we want to be. We are alive to the imagination and the possibility. We will continue to invent the future. Through our blood and tears, through all this sadness, we are the Hokies. We will prevail; we will prevail; we will prevail. We are Virginia Tech.

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GRACE: Tonight, we stop to remember Army Sergeant Adam Kennedy, 25, Norfolk, Massachusetts, killed, Iraq. A paratrooper on his first tour, wanted to enlist since he was a boy. A computer science grad Norwich University, he loved rock climbing and running marathons. The youngest of five, he leaves behind a grieving family, parents David and Nancy. Adam Kennedy, American hero.

Thank you to our guests, but especially to you, for being with us. On this night when so many families have been torn apart, I`m especially happy to say happy birthday to my dad, Mac. Tonight, all of our prayers to those suffering in Virginia. See you tomorrow night. And until then, good night, friend.

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