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Congressman, Sheriff Respond to May Day Protests; al Qaeda in Iraq Leader Reported Dead; "Ask a Mexican" Author Discusses May Day Protests
Aired May 1, 2007 - 19:00:00 ET
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GLENN BECK, HOST (voice-over): Tonight, immigration rallies teed up all across Los Estados Unidos.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s not just my country or a Mexican country or any country. It`s everyone`s.
BECK: But what are some of these protestors really after? I`ll have the story of their not-so-hidden agenda coming up.
And reports that Iraq`s top al Qaeda chief has been killed, perhaps by his own people. I`ll tell you whether that`s a good thing.
Plus, what happens to a critic who dares question Al Gore`s carbon footprint? Would you believe death threats?
All this and more, tonight.
BECK: Well, I just want to wish all of our communist friends a happy May Day. Am I the only one that remembers that this was a communist holiday?
Oh, by the way, if you`re out there marching someplace, you might see a lot of people on the streets with you today. All across the country, there were demonstrators who were demanding a path to citizenship for as many as 12 million of the nation`s illegal aliens.
Now, as much as I just delight in being called a hatemonger, I can guarantee that I`m going to be called one after you hear the point tonight, and here it is.
Some of the groups at today`s marches don`t just want a green card, they want the whole country. And here`s how I got there.
Wherever you stand on the issue of illegal immigration, what I`m about to say may change how you think about it and rock you to the core. One of the groups involved in today`s rallies is a group called the Mexica movement. What is it? What does the Mexica movement want? Amnesty and innocent -- instant citizenship? No, not quite.
Here`s what their official platform says: "We totally reject all illegal European, colonial squatter occupation borders on our continent. We also reject colonialism`s right to keep stealing the wealth of our lands. And we reject their artificial divisions of our people."
So just to sum up for those of you who don`t speak Mexica, this is a group that thinks America is their property, and anyone who doesn`t fit their description should leave the country.
What it also means is this is a hateful racist group, and it should be denounced immediately. But of course, we all know that`s not going to happen. No, probably what will happen is the people who might have been sympathetic to the plight of illegal immigrants, they`re watch thing this program right now. Maybe they will see the footage of the people of this group holding posters like this one -- that`s nice, isn`t it?
They`ll take a look at it and think, wait a minute, I mean, adopting a radical racist agenda which involves kicking everybody, you know, out of the country is really not something I want to be involved in.
The more that people learn about groups like this and their agenda, the more they will be marginalized. But this is only one show. I`m only one voice. Other shows are not going to speak out about this sort of thing. Because in a post-Imus age, almost anything now is considered racist.
So instead, people are just going to watch fluff pieces that most people are going to masquerade as news tonight, and the truth is just going to be swept away. It`s May Day, by the way. Need I remind you of that? Yes again.
Here`s what I know tonight. Today`s rallies will do nothing but hurt people that they`re trying to help. No matter how many American flags they now may be carrying, these rallies give voice to radical groups who claim that America is theirs alone. The people who want to come here legally, through the front door, and melt into our great melting pot of a society are being drowned out by the voices of hate.
And I don`t want to just single out the Mexica movement, because that`s not the only group out there like this. More on that in just a second.
Now, here`s what I don`t know. Will so-called civil rights leaders and pro-amnesty organizations distance themselves from groups like the Mexica movement and call them what they are, delusional and dangerous? I don`t think so.
Dana Rohrabacher joins me now. He`s a Republican congressman from California.
Congressman, first of all, you know about the Mexica movement? Can you tell me any more about it?
REP. DANA ROHRABACHER (R), CALIFORNIA: Let me just note that I`ve been involved in this issue for 20 years, even when I was a reporter as a young man. I remember the -- these type of radical individuals who were part of the flow of illegals into our society.
And while that is certainly an element that we have to be concerned about in an age of terrorism, I just want to stem the flow of illegals into our society and make sure they can`t get jobs and benefits, and I`d be satisfied with that.
BECK: Well, so are you telling me -- for instance, there -- I know there was a school in California that is getting funds -- it`s a charter school -- that is teaching children in our own country, in our own communities, a hate much like what this group is, and you`re telling me you don`t necessarily have a problem with that?
ROHRABACHER: Well, it`s not that I don`t have a problem with it. It`s just that I`ll have to say that what we`re talking about is a fringe element. Of course, in an age of terrorism, when you have even a thousand people out of a million or two million or three million people, those thousand people can do great damage if they are as radical as the people that we`re talking about.
BECK: Wait a minute. Hang on...
ROHRABACHER: But I am very concerned -- more -- I`m much more concerned about trying right now to turn around the policies that have permitted this massive flow of illegals into our country.
BECK: I am...
ROHRABACHER: We can nip that in the bud by -- and change that whole dynamic by stopping that problem.
BECK: I am with you, Congressman. Believe me, I`m with you. But we`re talking about seeds that become trees and trees that become forests.
ROHRABACHER: Right now we`ve got a forest of illegals in our country, and I`m focusing on them. Not to say that these radicals who want to take back the southwest and all of that, their real threat is not that they`re going to take back the southwest. The real threat is that they`re so radical that they may turn to violence and do things -- and commit acts of terrorism.
And if there`s just a few thousand of them who are radicalized, that could lead to very dangerous consequences for us.
BECK: You know what? I have to tell you, we are in a dangerous situation in our country, because just a few thousand people can make a difference. And it`s not just because they blow things up. It`s because they plant the seeds of dissent and distrust.
And they -- they change us into a place to where you`ve got churches that are saying, "I don`t respect the laws of the United States of America anymore."
You have cities that are saying, "We don`t respect the laws of the United States of America anymore."
We have people who are planting the seeds of what I believe could develop into a civil war if we don`t wake up and start respecting our laws.
ROHRABACHER: Well, there`s no doubt that 25 years from now or ten -- even ten years from now, if we let the illegal immigration flow into our country the way it is, we are going to wake up. And we will have lost our country, and there will be tens of millions of new people here who may or may not agree with any of the fundamentals that make America America.
BECK: Congressman, thank you very much.
It`s strange to me that we started talking about people who want to take the country away, and we ended here with you saying that in 25 years we`ll wake up, and our country will be gone from us.
I want to turn to somebody who`s on the front lines of the battle for the border, Sheriff Arpaio from Maricopa County, Arizona.
Sheriff, you are a common sense kind of guy. I have this from Maryland. It is a -- it`s a little brochure, a little booklet warning protect yourself from immigration rage. And it talks a little bit in the cartoon form exactly how, if the cops come after you and they`re trying to nab you for some crime you`ve committed, what your rights are and what you shouldn`t say so you get kicked out of the country.
Are you a little frustrated with some of the cities and the groups that are actively trying to thwart you enforcing your own laws that you have on the books in Arizona?
SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO, MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA: I`m the only one enforcing the new state law in Arizona. We locked up 550. It`s a felony. They`re going directly to jail. Also, we have the ICE training now, and my deputies are using a federal hat to arrest illegals. And that`s what we`re doing. If you violate the law in this county, you`re going directly to jail, not a free ride back to Mexico.
So all these critics can talk and complain, but I`ll tell you one thing, we`re going to continue to arrest people that violate the law.
BECK: You know, I have a friend who just moved down to Phoenix and he was telling me, and I was quite surprised, that he moved from Texas. And he said it`s not the same in Arizona. You`re in a dangerous place where people who are pro-illegal immigrant are borderline dangerous. Do you find that true?
ARPAIO: Yes, they don`t like this sheriff. And first of all, I have compassion for the Mexican people. I did serve four years as head of the federal drug enforcement in Mexico.
However, if you come into this county, you`re going to jail. Some people don`t like it. But they`re still going to jail. I have the gun and badge, and I`m going to continue to enforce the law.
BECK: I have to tell you, Sheriff, it`s just -- you don`t see people like you anymore. It`s really tragically sad, but you don`t see people who are just plainspoken and saying, "It`s the law and I`m going to enforce it."
Is it true that you sing to -- that you sing to people that you arrest for -- on illegal immigration every night?
ARPAIO: No, I give them bedtime stories. But everybody booked into our jail, they learn in English. I don`t teach my officers Spanish, so we sing -- they have to sing "God bless America" in the morning, the national anthem at night. They happen to be in the United States of America, and they happen to be in my jail. I run the jail. So that`s my policy.
BECK: All right. So you don`t sing, but you do have the prisoners sing?
ARPAIO: Yes. In English.
BECK: ... in English.
Has there been any pushback on that? Because I`ve got to tell you, I don`t think I could get my kids in a public school to have to sing "God bless America" and "The Star-Spangled Banner" every day in school. Somebody would sue us.
ARPAIO: I haven`t been sued. Sometimes they sue me, they don`t like the 15-cent meals and the hot tents. I can go on and on. But I run the jails. We have almost 10,000 people in the jails. I want more. I want to be No. 1. We`re No. 2 in the nation.
BECK: Sheriff, it is always a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you very much, sir.
ARPAIO: Thank you.
BECK: Coming up, a top al Qaeda leader in Iraq reportedly been killed, but it doesn`t look like it was by our military. Who did it? And what does it mean?
Also, everybody may be saying fluorescent light bulbs will save energy and the environment, but everyone also may want to know that may not be true. That`s tonight`s "Real Story".
Plus, former Senate and presidential hopeful Mike Gravel has caused quite a stir at the first presidential primary debate, but tonight he`s going to face me. Political punches? No, no. Stick around.
And don`t forget, tomorrow night, a must-see for you and your family, the other side of the global warming debate, "Exposed: The Climate of Fear", 7, 9 and midnight Eastern. Do not miss it tomorrow.
BECK: All right. If you`ve been watching the final season of "The Sopranos", you know that the tensions between New York and New Jersey families are heating up, and as a result, people are getting wacked.
Now the feds investigating organized crime, they don`t mind gangsters killing other gangsters. A little less trash that they have to take out.
Something similar happened in the Middle East today. It was reported that the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq had been killed. We`re not exactly sure who pulled the trigger or even if he`s definitely dead yet, but much like the feds in "The Sopranos", as far as we`re concerned, one more dead bad guy, especially a captain like this guy, would be a very good thing.
But it doesn`t mean that we shouldn`t be interested in who`s putting out the contracts. Was it a renegade Iraqi, a Sunni militia, a rogue faction within al Qaeda itself? Lots of questions, but in the end, I`m just glad this guy was finally sent to collect his 72 virgins.
David Grange, he is a general that served in the United States Army for 30 years. Now CNN analyst.
General, you look like a general. I mean, you just...
GEN. DAVID GRANGE, CNN ANALYST: Well, thank you.
BECK: You are no -- you`re just no-nonsense, all business here. So let`s get to it. First of all, do you think this guy is dead or alive?
GRANGE: I have no idea. But if the perception is that he`s dead, that`s just as good as having him physically dead. As you know, this is a world of disinformation and psychological warfare, so it`s good.
BECK: This guy is -- he was much worse than al-Zarqawi. Because this guy had Russian military training. This guy was a military mind, was he not?
GRANGE: He was. And he had in-depth training. And -- but there`s many more like him out there that can take his place.
BECK: OK. I have to ask you this, and I don`t know if you`re a guy that can answer it. It`s killing me that there`s a $5 million reward on this. What happens if it turns out that they were terrorists that killed him? What happens if it was a rogue, you know, al Qaeda guy and he killed him and he just wants the money to finance al Qaeda, do we have to pay him the $5 million?
GRANGE: Well, first of all, we`d have to have proof that he, in fact, is dead in order to give the reward out. If it`s a terrorist organization, then that would be supporting a terrorist organization, which is, again, against our law. And what we say that no one should do.
Now if it`s a rogue element that maybe we have been combating in the past, and now they`re collaborating with us and they have killed one of our enemies, so what if we pay the money? I mean, $5 million is well worth getting this guy off the books. So yes, I think we should pay in that case.
BECK: There was a story in "the New York times" that I don`t think a lot of people paid attention to that came out this weekend that there are these elements that have been fighting us. And now they`re fighting with us because they have recognized that al Qaeda is the bigger threat instead of the Sunnis or the Shias or the Americans.
Is that going to come back and -- I mean, we`re kind of -- the enemy of my enemy is my friend right now, but how do you, once we clear out al Qaeda, if we could in that area, how do we unite them onto, you know, being decent human beings?
GRANGE: Well, you know, this is always -- in history, you always have collaborations for convenience. Our adversaries do it, we do it, coalition members do it.
If you recall, one of the -- when we started off in helping the Shia, now some of the Shia situation is causing us problems because the influence of Iran. And it`s going to continue to do that. We`re going to do whatever is best for us as we assess the situation now.
BECK: OK. You`re a general, so you`ve studied history, where I haven`t, on military affairs. Is there ever a time that that`s really -- that it lasts?
For instance, you know, we made friends with the Russians -- enemy of my enemy is my friend -- and look what happened to us. We got the Cold War. I don`t trust the Saudis for a second and we`re friends with the Saudis right now. Looks like they`re starting to turn on us.
How do we -- how do we not create more problems? We -- in a way, we trained Osama bin Laden. We kind of helped build Osama bin Laden, because he was the enemy of our enemy.
GRANGE: Yes, good point. And in fact, history is full of situations like this where, in fact, as you have the convenience of now, which is important, but you have to look at the second and third order of effects. What is the result of your collaboration right now?
I mean, in the future, we could have problems with the Russians again, going back to your example, and I will predict we probably will. We`ve got to do the best we can.
GRANGE: Yes. I don`t think -- the Cold War, that wall coming down was almost like David Copperfield. It`s like, don`t look over here. We`re not doing anything over here. I mean, I think these guys are going to come back and bite us in the butt.
Who are we really fighting in Iraq now? I mean, you`ve got a guy who was a major in Saddam Hussein`s army. We just caught him. He was coming from Iran into Iraq, and he was the mastermind behind the 7-7 bombing in England and the training over there. Who are we really fighting? Who`s the one that`s really causing us the trouble?
GRANGE: You know, it`s not a one. It is definitely a loose network of adversaries. It`s a very convoluted, complex battlefield, shifting alliances constantly, state actors, non-state actors.
GRANGE: Some were -- worked with us before. Back and forth, and it`s going to continue to be that way.
That`s why irregular warfare is so difficult. And why there`s no white and black answers when Congress discusses this and an easy solution. There is none. This is the gray area, and you have to be able to operate in the gray area.
In a regular warfare environment, which is very difficult to grasp but we got to do it.
BECK: You know, it`s amazing. It`s exactly what the president said that we were going to face right after 9/11. He said it was going to be a war like anything we`ve never seen before and you won`t understand it.
General, thanks a lot.
Coming up, the global warming hysteria reaches a new low. I`ll tell you what Al Gore`s carbon footprint has to do with death threats.
Plus, if you missed the first Democratic primary debate last week, you missed some real entertainment, and I`m not kidding. Former Democratic senator and presidential hopeful Mike Gravel.
BECK: The immigration issue today, everybody is talking about Mexicans, but rarely are we encouraged to ask politically incorrect questions of Mexicans.
With the Latino population exploding throughout America, one man has made it his mission to get the dialogue started in a rather unconventional sort of way. His column appears in 22 weekly papers across the country, and he has just released a very funny new book. It`s titled "Ask a Mexican". The author, Gustavo Arellano.
Gustavo, let`s start here. The rallies that were going on today I noticed that there were a lot of Mexican flags that were missing. Now it`s all American flags.
GUSTAVO ARELLANO, AUTHOR, "ASK A MEXICAN": Again, assimilation is working. All these Mexicans are transforming into Americans, except with browner skin and bigger -- a bigger liking of tacos.
BECK: Let me tell you something: that`s not assimilation, that`s propaganda. They knew what they did last time, carrying the Mexican flag, was just a huge error in P.R., and so they started carrying the American flag.
ARELLANO: Yes, exactly. So they assimilated into what they had to do in this country.
BECK: Not that. Now, listen, listen, when we want to talk about assimilation, assimilation is good. When we`re talking about speaking the language and obeying the laws, et cetera, et cetera.
You can still have -- like, you know, Italians. I lived in New Haven, Connecticut, for a while. It`s Italian City.
BECK: And you know, they all speak English, et cetera, et cetera. I was the only one in the block that didn`t have a statue of the Virgin Mary in the front yard, but still they became Americans. There are a lot of people now that are coming from Mexico that don`t want to become Americans. True or false?
ARELLANO: Yes, no. It`s a process. Obviously, when the Italian- Americans came to this country, they weren`t speaking English once they got off the boat. They were speaking Italian.
BECK: No, but wait a minute. Hang on.
They encouraged their children -- I know several immigrants that are - that are first generation. Their parents were there, and they`re first generation Americans. And they did not allow their children to speak the native tongue. They said, "Learn English. That`s the only way you`re going to be a success story."
Why isn`t it that way with many illegal immigrants?
ARELLANO: Well, obviously there`s many illegal immigrants. They`re not just Mexicans or whatever. People they -- in this globalized society, you`re going to continue to keep onto your language. So in this day and age, you can just go on the Internet and find your language in whatever medium you want to do. So they`re going to stick to their languages a little better.
BECK: Now, your book is very politically incorrect. I mean, people have asked you questions like, what`s with all the babies and no birth control in Mexico?
ARELLANO: There is birth control, except there`s no condom in the world that can hold back Mexican sperm.
BECK: Do you have any pushback from the Mexican community on your viewpoint and, you know, answers like that?
ARELLANO: Of course. Some people, they say I`m a sell-out. A bandito. That`s a word for you, Glenn. A sell-out. And they say that I`m mocking Mexicans.
What they don`t understand is that, in the book, I`m using satire to make bigger points across. So for instance, when it comes to why do Mexicans swim the ocean with their clothes on -- that`s the most asked question I get in the book -- my response is, you know, a lot of people in this country, they`re fat, and Mexicans are fat as well. So they want to - - they`re a little bit more modest than Americans.
It`s obviously satirical. And I think that`s the approach you need in this time and age when everyone else is just yelling at each other.
BECK: I`ve got ten seconds. Cinco de Mayo. We drink beer over here on Cinco de Mayo for Mexican independence. Do you on Fourth of July in Mexico, do you drink milk?
ARELLANO: No. We drink tequila every day, every morning and every...
BECK: All right, all right, all right. Thanks for stopping.
ARELLANO: Thanks so much.
BECK: Up next, the truth behind fluorescent light bulbs and how they`re not going to save the world. In fact, they`re going to make a bigger mess. Don`t miss tonight`s "Real Story".
BECK: All right. Welcome to "The Real Story."
A lot of people say that, you know, I am a global warming denier, but nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, here you go, America. TiVo this and play it back to all your environmentalist, nut job, hippy friends who say I hate the Earth and who hate me. Here it is: The Earth is getting warmer. Bloop, bloop, bloop. The Earth is getting warmer.
But that`s really not the question. The real story is that virtually no one is debating the Earth`s temperature. We all know the Earth has a fever. We`re just questioning what to do about it. And I want to share something that I like to call the logic tree, and it encompasses all of the decisions that you, the American citizen, need to make before you start spending money to fix global warming.
First, is the Earth still warming? I already said yes, so we move on.
Two, are we sure who or what is responsible for that warming? That`s really where I stop, because I think the jury is still out. But let`s just say, for the sake of the argument, we are sure.
Now you`ve got to figure out if throwing money at the problem can solve it. You know, a lot of supposedly very smart scientists say that it`s already too late. But again, for the sake of argument, let`s just say, yes, we still can stop it.
All right, next question then becomes whether this is the best use of our money. In other words, can the money that we spend save more lives if we spend it on other things, like, I don`t know, eradicating malaria or tuberculosis or AIDS? Again, let`s make the leap and say that global warming is the best use of that money.
Now we have to decide exactly where to spend all that money, and I want the government politicians and the U.N. to make that decision. But for those who don`t, there are a lot of ideas out there. Which one who we actually fund?
And, finally, we have to make sure that those solutions won`t unintentionally create other problems. So if all of that is true, then go ahead. Spend the money. Have the U.N. spend it all they want. I believe we`re a long, long way away from that last step, but there are a lot of other people who are apparently already there, ready to spend your money on unproven solutions. Example? Watch this.
"The New York Times" ran an article this morning about a new commercial venture to combat global warming by dumping iron into the ocean with the hope that it will grow plankton. They write, quote, "But even though many questions remain unanswered, the ship plans to dissolve tons of iron over 2.7 million acre area of the ocean." You know what, America? I have an idea. How about we answer those questions before we start dumping iron into the water?
It`s the same thing with those crappy fluorescent light bulbs that environmentalists are all trying to get the entire world to switch to. I`m glad that they last longer. I really am. They bother my eyes, but that`s a different story. The fact that mercury from those bulbs vaporizes and is absorbed into plants and animals and soil when they`re thrown away, that`s kind of a problem, isn`t it? You watch. As soon as we all switch, mark my words, the environmental groups will all start screaming about how we`re poisoning the environment with mercury. You think I`m kidding? Already happening in Canada.
The only thing worse than ignoring a problem is creating more of them when you try to solve it. But with global warming, that`s exactly what we`re doing, and nobody seems to care. Steve Milloy, he`s the head of the Free Enterprise Action Fund, runs the Web site junkscience.com.
Steve, first of all, are you in bed with big oil? And if so, how good in bed are they?
STEVEN MILLOY, JUNKSCIENCE.COM: Not in bed with anyone, just trying to do the right thing on climate change.
BECK: Tell me the story -- and I swore that this was an urban legend -- just heard about it, had it tracked down by the producers, and that`s why you`re on tonight. Tell me the story about the woman in Maine with the fluorescent light bulb.
MILLOY: Well, this was reported in the "Ellsworth American." This poor woman, Brandy Bridges, was switching out her incandescent bulbs and into compact fluorescent light bulbs, CFLs, because they`re going to help save us from global warming, and she accidentally dropped the bulb that she was replacing in her daughter`s bedroom.
Now, she knew that there was something odd about the bulb. She knew they might be somewhat more dangerous, so she called Home Depot to find out what to do. Well, they told her to call the poison control center. Poison control center told her to call the Maine Department of Environmental Protection. The Maine Department of Environmental Protection sent a specialist out to her house.
BECK: Now, wait, wait, this has got to be an urban legend. This is true? The EPA came to help clean up a light bulb?
MILLOY: Oh, this is not the end of it. OK, so the Maine EPA tells her that, well, you need to have a specialist come out here and clean this up. So she found a specialist to come out and give her an estimate: $2,000 to clean up a light bulb. The specialist found that the level of mercury in her daughter`s bedroom was six times as high as the Maine standard for being safe.
BECK: Holy cow.
MILLOY: So now this woman is trying to put together the financing to clean up, because she...
BECK: I sweep it up into a little dust bin and bury it in my neighbor`s backyard, because they`re a hippy freak. That`s what I do.
MILLOY: Yes, all because she wanted to save $5 a year in electric bills.
BECK: Oh, my god. You know, the problem is the solutions sometimes make things worse. We`ve done this with additives to gasoline. We did it with the CFCs. We fixed the ozone layer, but haven`t we made greenhouse gases, like, 10,000 times worse?
MILLOY: Oh, yes. We do this all the time, because we just fall for environmentalist alarmism. You had a great example in the intro with the plankton. You know, there are innumerable examples like this.
BECK: I`ve got to tell you, that one spooks me. Thanks a lot, Steve.
All right. Next, you might have heard the report from a few weeks back where the Tennessee Center for Policy Research concluded that Al Gore`s national estate in 2006 devoured nearly -- I`m quoting -- 221,000 kilowatt hours of electricity. That`s more than 20 times the national average.
Well, that`s spurred calls of Gore being a hypocrite from some, but it also spurred calls of a different kind to the offices of the people who did the study: death threats. The real story tonight is that the close-minded people who believe that denying manmade global warming is akin to denying the Holocaust will stop at nothing to prevent others from questioning their agenda.
After releasing the Gore study, the phones started ringing at the Tennessee center. Callers repeatedly referred to the woman, the poor woman, the receptionist who was just answering the phones, as, quote -- I`m quoting -- "a stupid, redneck bitch and whore."
Then, the home numbers of those employees at the center were openly posted on liberal environmental blogs. These people are terrorists! And then there were the e-mails.
Chris wrote in, quote, "I hope you all die slowly and have your hearts and brains trampled on, you pieces of small-minded, ignorant, backwoods ideologues." Wow, hope you global warming alarmists are proud to have that guy on your team.
Then there`s Russ. He had a suggestion for their staff. Quote, "How about you do humanity a favor and have a stroke?"
Or my personal favorite from Ben, quote, "Go `f` yourselves, you neocon, non-secular, Bible-thumping, anti-science dumb `fps.`" Sounds like a rational science-minded guy.
You might laugh at these e-mails, but I read many of them that had not been released to the public until today on my radio program today, and there`s at least 10 serious death threats that were made. Now, I don`t know about you, but I find it extraordinarily ironic that the same peace, flower-power people that claim to be concerned about the death of others from global warming have no problem advocating it for those who disagree with them.
Drew Johnson is the president of that Tennessee Center for Policy Research. Drew, I believe these environmentalists are extraordinarily well-organized, and that`s why they have so much power, right or wrong?
DREW JOHNSON, TENNESSEE CENTER FOR POLICY RESEARCH: Oh, absolutely. I mean, in our case, we showed that Gore uses about 20 times more energy than the average American. And within an hour or two of our information being released, you saw liberal blogs with our phone number, our home phone numbers, trying to encourage their readers to get in contact with us and really give us a piece of their minds.
BECK: Now, but you didn`t actually do the study, did you? I mean, I know that the "Tennessean," the national paper, had the same report, and they didn`t publish it. Do you know why?
JOHNSON: You know, it`s a missed opportunity for them, and it`s certainly a gain for us. I can`t say exactly why, but, you know, there are certainly theories about people wanting to take up for their hometown boy, Al Gore, and, you know, compassion towards this global warming hysteria.
BECK: Yes. You were on the radio with me today, and we were going through some of the e-mails that had not been released to the media. And they were horrifying. Some of them were so anti-homosexual that, I mean, if Ann Coulter -- it made what Ann Coulter said, which was despicable, tame.
JOHNSON: Oh, it was the same week.
BECK: And that got no press.
BECK: What happened to you got no press. Actual hate speech, the same kind -- but coming from the left. How come that didn`t warrant any kind of news story? Why wasn`t that front page?
JOHNSON: You know, it`s shocking that the same people who say, you know, we`re all about equality, we`re not going to put up with any disparaging remarks, you know, racial remarks, homosexual remarks, we received literally thousands, 5,000 or 6,000 e-mails, that made fun of everything from -- you know, questioned the relationship of my parents at the time of my birth and also just being from the South.
BECK: Yes. Drew, I`m sorry that you guys had to go through that. I can`t imagine what we`re going to go through with our special tomorrow night, but it is on tomorrow.
JOHNSON: Be prepared.
BECK: We are prepared. Believe me. That`s "The Real Story" tonight. We`ll be back in just a second.
BECK: Next guest is a veteran. He has been an author, a clerk on Wall Street, a brakeman on the Alaska railroad, New York City cab driver, both a United States congressman and now a senator. He`s also running for president of the United States. And in last week`s Democratic debate, if it is any indication, he`s going to keep the race, let`s say, interesting. Take a look.
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FORMER SEN. MIKE GRAVEL (D), ALASKA: I`m the senior statesman out here, and I was beginning to feel like a potted plant standing over here.
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BECK: Senator Mike Gravel, Senator, I have heard from everybody on my staff today that you and I will disagree on policies, but when it comes to principle, you and I are going to be best friends.
GRAVEL: Glenn, I look forward to that.
BECK: Good. Let`s start with the Iraq war and the spending bill. I think fight it. You think not. However, we both agree, apparently, on one thing, and that is, you either fight it with everything you have or you pull out right now. It`s immoral what both sides are doing with the war right now.
GRAVEL: I think so, too, and I quite agree with you. And we had the capacity in the Congress, if they had some leadership, to really bring this to a conclusion.
You`re right: We disagree. I think the mistake was made the day George Bush brought us into this war fraudulently. And there`s no way you`re going to correct it. It`s just costing human life. There`s a civil war going on, and let`s get the heck out of the way.
BECK: Oh, Senator.
GRAVEL: I know, I`m after your own heart, Glenn.
BECK: Bringing us in fraudulently, oh, I mean, shame on you, Senator. OK, I want to show a clip from the debate where you made a very eloquent point on this very issue, and here it is.
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GRAVEL: Now, with respect to what`s going on in the Congress, I`m really embarrassed. What has been passed? George Bush communicated over a year ago that he would not get out of Iraq until he left office. Do we not believe him? We need to find another way.
How do you get out? You pass the law. It`s not a resolution, a law, making it a felony to stay there.
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BECK: OK, do you really -- God bless you. I mean, at least you really are going for what you believe in. And I have respect for you, sir, on that. A felony, do you really think that that could pass and would work?
GRAVEL: Oh, of course it would. Of course it would, Glenn.
BECK: You could get that passed?
GRAVEL: Of course. If I were the leader and could control the speaker, both of them, I`ll tell you, I`ll have it passed in six months. Six months.
BECK: How do you do it?
GRAVEL: Well, very simple. You turnaround, turn the heat up. You know, you want to override a filibuster? Every single day, you have a cloture vote. Let the American people count the people who are keeping the war going.
BECK: You know what? I am absolutely in love with holding people responsible and stopping the games. And, you know, I...
GRAVEL: Feet to the fire, Glenn. Feet to the fire.
BECK: Yes, and I appreciate your candor. And on this particular issue, let me take it one step further. Do you find it offensive that a bill that was ready last week was held now for five days just so it could arrive on the "Mission Accomplished" day? We`re playing press games, are we not?
GRAVEL: It`s politics as usual, and both sides have been playing it. And I`ve got to tell you, Karl Rove and the White House have made mastery with this approach to politics. It`s politics as usual, and that`s what the people in the United States want to bring an end to.
BECK: Yes, well, I think it`s not just that. They would like to see a resurgence of common sense. You know, I mean, my grandfather, he was a Democrat, and my grandfather would be kicking ass in Congress right now and...
GRAVEL: And taking names.
BECK: Yes, and you know what? Maybe we should both start just taking names. You said something else, and let me play this audio also from the debate, which I find entertaining. Watch this.
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GRAVEL: It`s like going into the Senate. You know, the first time you get there, you`re all excited. "My God, how did I ever get here?" Then about six months later, you say, "How the hell did the rest of them get here?"
And I`ve got to tell you, after standing up with them, some of these people frighten me.
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BECK: How does Nancy Pelosi frighten you?
GRAVEL: Well, they`re not doing the right thing. Now, Nancy`s not the one that made the statement that she`ll end the war. This was Hillary. This was Obama. This was Edwards. They all said they`re going to end the war. But listen to the language, Glenn. Listen to the language.
What they`re talking about is drawing combat troops. Well, that`s ridiculous, because what you`re going to leave there is about 100,000 American soldiers, 50,000 mercenaries, and all these war profiteers making money off of them.
BECK: Senator, You know what? I got to tell you, I wish you luck. I hope you stay in, and I hope you`re able to control the debate just a little bit. It`s nice to have some common sense, even though we disagree on the issues. I like the plainspokenness, sir.
GRAVEL: That`s what makes our country great.
BECK: It sure is.
All right, beginning next week and continuing through the rest of the year, we`re going to shine the spotlight on some very special people. Each one has a remarkable story. Each one is an example of a single person that can turn their personal vision for a better world into action. They are called "CNN Heroes."
Our very first hero lives in Brooklyn, New York. His name is Thabiti Boone.
MICHELLE DEJESUS, FOURTH GRADE STUDENT: Dear Mr. Boone, my name is Michelle DeJesus, and I`m in the fourth grade. This neighborhood that I live in is not a good scene to me. I see a lot of crime and dangerous things in this neighborhood.
THABITI BOONE, RUNS LITERACY PROGRAM: I`m from East New York, Brownsville, Brooklyn, New York. Like many young people that come from this community, you have no chance. There is no hope, no joy to go to school.
My name is Thabiti Boone, and I chose a different path. My father didn`t want to be a father. My mom was too young at that time to take me out of the hospital, so I was stuck in the middle with no direction.
My life could have been, "I`m angry, I want to fight the world, I have an attitude," but something said, "You know what? I`m going to make a difference. I`m going to make it out of here, and I`m going to be one of the ones to come back."
DEJESUS: Mr. Boone, you make learning fun for us. And by you coming back, it shows my classmates and me that you care about us and our education.
BOONE: Our young people are in such a crisis of lack of love, lack of interest, lack of hope, lack of heroes. The Read to Succeed program is a unique program that connects sports, entertainment, and hip-hop to self- development and success, through the importance of reading. Bam, that`s it. So students have to read on a continuous basis. They have to learn how to give oral presentations, stand in front of the classroom, develop confidence.
DEJESUS: This program taught me and my classmates that we can be anything in life, if we just work hard.
BOONE: You may want to dream to be an athlete or an entertainer, but at the end of the day that may not be what you`re supposed to be. But let`s have a program that teach you how to self-discover many gifts and talents.
DEJESUS: Thank you so much. You are like a father to us. We love you so much. From, Michelle DeJesus.
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UNIDENTIFIED GROUP: ... achievement.
BOONE: There`s a piece of who you are that`s connected to where you came from. So if you go and don`t come back, you`re walking around half- dead.
BECK: Tomorrow night, we do have a very special episode of the GLENN BECK program. It`s not like other very special episodes of other TV shows. You know, my adorable, long-lost cousin Oliver is not going to be visiting, and I`m not going to get locked in a storeroom of Mel`s Diner.
Our special episode is dealing with an important issue. It`s called "Exposed: The Climate of Fear." In it, I`m going to tell you the other side of the global warming debate. Your kids are being indoctrinated in school right now. This is the other side.
I want you to know, we`re not doing this for yuks. This is a show that nobody really wants us to do. A few months ago, when we did a special exposing Muslim extremists, some people were so hacked off they want everybody here to lose their jobs or worse. Why? Because there are forces with inside this country who are afraid of people`s opinions, especially if they just might be true.
I don`t know when this started to happen here in America. I mean, here we are. We`re living in a climate where a documentary filmmaker who dares to present another point of view are having their lives threatened. Now, I could understand if that filmmaker were going to make a film about Al Qaeda. But we`re talking about debating science.
Every night, it is my job to give you my opinion. That`s what this show is: an opinion show. I`m not a journalist. But tomorrow night, my job is to give you the other side of the debate that you`re not going to hear, to ask honest questions on an issue that affects all of us. Your job is to decide.
Don`t let any group of scientists make up your mind for you. Don`t let the media make up your mind or Sheryl Crow or me. You make up your mind. I don`t want to give away everything that`s in the show tomorrow, but I will tell you what`s not going to be on. There are not going to be any boring slide shows or Melissa Etheridge music. We will not show you the Al Gore side. You can get that 24/7 on every other channel.
But most importantly, I will not tell you that you`re a moron or a hatemonger if you don`t agree with the opinions that are voiced on this show tomorrow. A lot of people will tell you that this show is dangerous. Really? What`s more dangerous, asking questions or trying to shut people up who do ask questions? I`ll let you make up your mind on that one.
We will see you back here tomorrow. Please don`t miss it. Tell your children. Gather them around. They`re getting the other side in school. Open their mind. Let them hear both sides of the debate, from New York, tomorrow night. Good night.