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Many Without Power After Storm Passes Through Dallas; Terrorist in Jill Carroll Kidnapping Killed; Iraq Funding Battle

Aired May 3, 2007 - 09:02   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Meanwhile, getting the power back on in Texas. Let's see how they're doing now.
Chris Schein of Encore Electric Delivery is on the phone from Dallas for us this morning.

Chris, tell us the latest situation. How many people are without power right now?

CHRIS SCHEIN, ENCORE ELECTRIC DELIVERY: Right now we have about 200,000 customers mostly in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area that are without power. At our peak, we had about 300,000 that were without, and through the night we've been able to reduce that by about a third. But one of the things that we're finding is that the damage is pretty extensive, and so it could be an extended repair period.

COLLINS: What kind of damage are we talking about?

SCHEIN: Normally in storms you have tree limbs and power lines. We're finding entire trees in the power lines.

COLLINS: Wow.

SCHEIN: And so, we're -- before we can even begin the repairs we have to cut up and remove that tree, and then the repair crews can come in behind it. These are all resource-intensive efforts, and so we've called in crews from Oklahoma, OG&E and crews from other utilities in Texas to assist us. And today we're going to have about 2,400 workers out there in the field trying to restore power.

COLLINS: Is that more than what you'd normally have in a situation like this? I mean, storms in your area are certainly not something new.

SCHEIN: No, they're not new. And we have one of the best records in being able to restore, but to have 2,400 people in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area performing the restoration efforts, that is significant, and significantly higher than anything we have.

COLLINS: OK. Wow. Well, good for you for making all that progress so far. I'm sure people are very anxious to have their power back on, such an inconvenience these days. But everybody's got to stay safe in the meantime.

Chris Schein with Encore Power.

Thanks so much for being with us, Chris.

TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: Boy, and check this out. You're looking at a tornado near the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. It is one of two tornadoes spotted near the range yesterday. We're told it kicked up sand and tumbleweeds. There are no reports of any damage, though, or injuries.

In Iraq, the fog of war shrouds the face of death. Who is this man said to have been killed by coalition forces? U.S. and Iraqi officials are giving different identities today. They agree on one thing -- he was a top leader of the insurgency.

Here to sort it all out, CNN's Arwa Damon. She joins us from Baghdad.

OK. One body, two identities. Sort it out for us, if you would, Arwa.

ARWA DAMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Tony, now, on both sides, from the Iraqis and the Americans, they are both saying that that is the body of Muharib al-Jubouri. Specifically, who Muharib al-Jubouri is, that is the source of some confusion. But Major General William Caldwell did say that he was a senior al Qaeda figure who had been killed in a series of operations that took place on Tuesday.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MAJ. GEN. WILLIAM CALDWELL, SPOKESMAN, MULTINATIONAL FORCE, IRAQ: As a result of that operation, that is when we, in fact, did kill the senior minister of information for Al Qaeda in Iraq. Muharib Abdul Latif was, in fact, killed on the target set on the first of May at about -- about 2:00 a.m. in the morning.

Based on multiple detainee debriefings, we know that he was responsible for the transportation and movement of Jill Carroll from her various hiding places. Again, from multiple detainee debriefings, we know he is responsible for the propaganda and ransom videos from the Jill Carroll kidnapping. Muharib was also the last one known to have had personal custody of Tom Fox (ph) before his death.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BASH: Now, after conducting DNA tests, Caldwell said that the military released his body to members of his tribe. At that point, it appears that as they were driving through Baghdad, they were picked up, stopped at an Iraq checkpoint, and then the body ended up in the hands of the Iraqi Ministry of Interior -- Tony.

HARRIS: OK. So, let me just be clear with you here. So, do we have an agreement now, one body, one I.D., or is this still up in the air a bit?

DAMON: Well, Tony, according to the Iraqis, they believe that he is, in fact, Omar al-Baghdadi. Omar al-Baghdadi is the head of the Islamic State in Iraq, and that is the umbrella group which also encompasses Al Qaeda in Iraq and has been responsible for a number of operations against the Iraqi people and against the U.S. military. Now, the Iraqis are basing this on facial recognition. They basically brought in a number of individuals who were very familiar with al- Jubouri to try to see if he is, in fact, al-Baghdadi or not.

And they determined that by playing back audiotapes that al- Baghdadi had been putting out. And according to the Iraqis who knew al-Jubouri, they said that he was one in the same. But the Americans have absolutely no confirmation of that -- Tony.

HARRIS: Well, Arwa, I was going to ask you for the latest on the story on al-Masri, but I'm still sorting this one out. So let's leave it there for now.

CNN's Arwa Damon in Baghdad for us.

Arwa, thank you.

COLLINS: Turning now to diplomacy in the Middle East.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is in Egypt for talks on stabilizing Iraq. The two-day conference opened with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki calling on all countries to forgive Baghdad's debts. That call is backed by the U.S.

All of this possibly overshadowed, though, by another development. A senior State Department official tells CNN Rice will likely meet with Syria's foreign minister. It would mark the first high-level talks between the two countries in years. Less likely, rumored talks between the U.S. and Iran, another country that Washington accuses of sponsoring terrorism.

HARRIS: President Bush dispatching top aides to a meeting today with key senators. The topic, paying for the Iraq war. With the Democrats' timetable for troop withdrawal off the table, at least for now, what's next?

CNN's Dana Bash has a look.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On the backs of our...

DANA BASH, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Democrats knew they did not have enough votes to override the president's veto...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Two-thirds not being in the affirmative. The bill has not passed.

BASH: ... but tried anyway.

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), HOUSE SPEAKER: Now it's the fifth year of a failed policy. This administration should get a clue. It's not working.

BASH: It was a combative closing scene before the next crucial act.

REP. JERRY LEWIS (R), CALIFORNIA: You've had your dog and pony show. You've posed for political holy pictures on TV. Now, what is your plan to support the troops?

BASH: Moments after the vote, the next act was under way, a bipartisan White House meeting aimed at clearing the poisonous air to make way for a compromise on a war funding bill.

REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R), MINORITY LEADER: I think there is a way for us to work together to try to find common ground.

PELOSI: Democrats are committed to ending this war, and we hope to do so in unison with the president.

BASH: Democrats in Congress may have picked this Iraq funding fight with the White House, but Republican lawmakers, under pressure from war-weary constituents back home, could hold the key to compromise.

REP. MIKE PENCE (R), INDIANA: I think it is a priority that -- for every member of Congress, Republican and Democrat -- that we send a message to the civilian authority in Iraq that says we need you to make progress.

BASH: GOP congressman Mike Pence stands with the White House in opposing legislation that sets a timeline for a troop withdrawal. But he represents many rank and file Republicans who support revoking economic aid for Iraqis if they don't meet specific benchmarks showing progress.

SEN. JOHN ENSIGN (R), NEVADA: You tie the benchmarks to Iraqi reconstruction money instead of to military timelines. That would give incentive for all sides in Iraq to want to meet those, because none of them want to lose the money.

BASH (on camera): As for Democrats, senior Democratic sources tell CNN they will not try again to pass a war spending bill with a timeline for troop withdrawal because the president won't sign it. Democrats know that means in the end they'll lose support from many who will not vote to fund the war without a plan to bring troops home.

Dana Bash, CNN, Capitol Hill.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COLLINS: Good news for California Bay Area commuters. One of two key freeway connectors shut down by an overpass collapse -- boy, that's an understatement, huh -- will reopen within 10 days. That word from California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

He says inspectors have determined the ramp was not damaged as badly as first feared in Sunday's fiery crash. The ramp connects Interstate 80 to Interstate 880 near the San Francisco- Oakland Bay Bridge.

HARRIS: Expanding the recall. Are more dogs and cats at risk from contaminated pet food?

That story ahead in the NEWSROOM.

COLLINS: A college campus unites in tragedy. T-shirts on sale to honor the victims of an unspeakable horror. Where to get them, where the money goes, ahead in the NEWSROOM.

HARRIS: Sex scandal and the seminary. Former New Jersey governor Jim McGreevey's new calling ahead in the NEWSROOM.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COLLINS: Emotions still raw, but students united in spirit. Virginia Tech T-shirts now on sale to honor those killed in last month's shooting rampage. Emblazoned with the phrases "Hokies United" and "We Are Virginia Tech," the shirts sell for $5 each. Students say it's part of a long process of recovery.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SARAH SAXTON, VIRGINIA TECH STUDENT: As a student body, we need to continue to pull together, not just now, but through the summer, through next year, through the years to come.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COLLINS: The shirts are available over the Internet. Also at some Blacksburg bookstores. All proceeds benefit the Hokie Spirit Memorial Fund.

HARRIS: And pet owners, listen up. Menu Foods is expanding its pet food recall. The company says products not thought to include melamine-tainted wheat gluten may have been cross-contaminated. Those foods manufactured at the same plants as some of the tainted foods recalled earlier.

Since mid-March, more than 5,300 pet food products have been pulled off store shelves. For a list of the recalled pet food, check out the Web site at menufoods.com.

COLLINS: There is news this morning of a new treatment for osteoporosis, a once-a-year shot.

Our chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, joining us now with details.

Hey, this sounds like -- pretty easy. You only have to remember to do it one time.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: And that's one of the big advantages, I think, is a lot of people stop taking medication because it makes them sick.

COLLINS: Yes.

GUPTA: Or they simply forget if it's a once a month or once a day sort of pill. That's why there's so much excitement potentially about this medication called Reclast.

Incidentally, osteoclast is a type of cell that attacks the bone. That's where the name Reclast comes from.

Osteoporosis itself, as many people know, means basically porous bones. What happens is, the bones become brittle, so brittle, Heidi, that just from coughing sometimes you can actually break a bone. Your spine, your wrist and your hip are the most common locations, typically because the levels of calcium and phosphorous and other minerals are too low.

Should point out that Novartis, the makers of the drug, actually did the study. What they found, though, was you have significant benefit overall in terms of trying to reduce the number of fractures. A significant problem.

About a 70 percent reduction, for example, with regard to spine fractures, 40 percent with regard to hip fractures. Other fractures about 25 percent. The existing medications seem to decrease fractures by about 50 percent across the board.

The good is, as you pointed out, Heidi, it's once a year.

COLLINS: Yes.

GUPTA: It's a shot, so you bypass the GI system. You don't get the nausea and the vomiting and all that sort of stuff.

The bad is that about one in 77 patients, they can get a heart rhythm abnormality called atrial fibrillation.

COLLINS: Right. Right.

GUPTA: The FDA is considering it right now for possible approval.

COLLINS: Wow. What's your thought as a physician about this?

GUPTA: Well, I think that it sounds like it's very effective, especially with regards to spine fractures, which is something that I see quite a bit as a neurosurgeon. The fact that it's once a year, look, I have a lot of patient who can't remember to take their medications.

COLLINS: I know. Yes.

GUPTA: It's an awful problem. Or, if it makes them sick, they just stop taking it.

So, if you take it once a year, your doctor will remind you. You can probably go to your doctor's office to get it.

COLLINS: OK.

GUPTA: If you have some sort of heart problem, though, I think you need to be a little bit careful. COLLINS: Yes, it sounds like it.

Now, we often hear, you know -- almost always hear, in fact, that osteoporosis is a disease that women get. Could this help benefit men?

GUPTA: Yes. You know, it seems too as well.

The studies are ongoing here, but I asked the same question, because I'm obviously interested in that. And, you know, they say within the next few years, about half the people over the age of 50 are going to have some sort of osteoporosis and be at risk for fractures. That's men and women.

COLLINS: Right.

GUPTA: So, at some point, this might be available for men as well.

COLLINS: And is there anything new to prevent this bone loss? I mean, as you get older, it just seems to come with the territory.

GUPTA: You know, it does not have to be a natural part of aging. Several things in our society makes us more likely to develop osteoporosis. A lot of it has to do with our diet in this country specifically.

If you change your diet somewhat, to add more vitamin D, add more calcium, things like that -- obviously limit your alcohol and your smoking. And when it comes to exercise, this is something you and I have talked about quite a bit. We focus a lot on aerobics, which is good.

COLLINS: Yes.

GUPTA: But starting to do some weight training, some resistance training, actually loading your bones and your arms and your legs seems to make a huge difference in terms of warding off osteoporosis later on.

COLLINS: And I can do that just by sitting on the couch and lifting some heavy weights, right?

HARRIS: Oh boy.

COLLINS: I mean, that's not heart.

GUPTA: Tony doesn't agree.

HARRIS: Oh man.

GUPTA: Get to the gym, Heidi.

COLLINS: You're not in the shot. Wait.

HARRIS: To the gym, Heidi Collins. GUPTA: Heidi looks great. Go to the gym. We want you to be healthy a long time.

COLLINS: Thank you, Sanjay.

GUPTA: All right.

HARRIS: I tell you.

All right. Still to come in the NEWSROOM this morning, diplomats meet to talk about Iraq, but will Iraq's neighbors steal the spotlight? The secretary of state set to talk with Syria.

Meeting on the sidelines in the NEWSROOM.

COLLINS: A symbol of the nation eager to fly again once his gunshot wounds heal. Interesting story here.

We'll have it for you in the NEWSROOM.

ALI VELSHI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And I'm Ali Velshi, "Minding Your Business".

In New York, another record for the Dow. The question is, what do you do about it?

Let's have that little discussion when we come back in the NEWSROOM.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HARRIS: Wall Street continues its winning streak, and how. The Dow picked up 75 points on Wednesday to close at a new high, above 13,200.

Ali Velshi here "Minding Your Business" this morning.

All right, Ali. We know this is a significant story, but come on. In real terms, how big a deal is this, really?

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

COLLINS: Want to go ahead and show you some of these pictures now coming to us. Obviously President Bush there in the East Room.

The National Day of Prayer ceremony taking place right now. He's delivering some remarks.

This is the 56th year that they have been doing the National Day of Prayer. This year's theme is America, Unite in Prayer. You probably remember the very first time this was done, if you checked your history books, was back in 1795, when President George Washington issued the proclamation for a day of public thanksgiving.

I just heard just a few minutes ago -- not sure of everyone who's in the room, but I do know that Mayor Ron Rordam of Blacksburg, Virginia, is there. The president pointed him out, as well as the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets.

So he's just right now kind of thanking everyone. And remember, it is a National Day of Prayer today.

HARRIS: And still to come in the NEWSROOM this morning, the face of death. An insurgent leader in Iraq, and that's where this story gets confusing.

We will try to clear it up for you this morning in the NEWSROOM.

WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SR. POLITICAL ANALYST: Why are 10 Republican candidates for president making a holy pilgrimage here to southern California?

We'll find out next in the NEWSROOM.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(STOCK MARKET REPORT)

TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning, again, everyone.

I'm Tony Harris.

Good morning.

HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Heidi Collins.

Republican presidential candidates hoping to follow in Ronald Reagan's footsteps tonight, debating in his presidential library.

CNN's Bill Schneider explains.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)

WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST (voice-over): For Republicans, the Ronald Reagan Library is sacred ground.

DUKE BLACKWOOD, DIRECTOR, REAGAN PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY: All of the candidates are trying to align themselves with Ronald Reagan. And we thought what a great place to have a debate.

SCHNEIDER: For decades, conservatives had fought and sacrificed and suffered and bled to realize their goal of gaining control of the Republican Party.

When Reagan became president, their dream came true.

MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thirty years ago, in this very conference, one man stood up and told America what was needed. It was conservatism.

SCHNEIDER: For conservative Republicans, 1980 was the Year One.

ROMNEY: I campaigned for him because I said that guy is right. And he was true to principles and he said it with a smile. SCHNEIDER: All Republicans now call themselves Reaganites.

RUDY GIULIANI (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He is, in fact, one of my -- one of my heroes.

SCHNEIDER: Reaganism is not just conservatism, it's also leadership.

GIULIANI: Ronald Reagan was a leader, which is a combination of being a visionary and a practical person who can achieve results.

SCHNEIDER: We asked the director of the Reagan Library what was the secret of Reagan's political success.

BLACKWOOD: Communication. Again, you've got to be able to know what your vision is, you've got to communicate that vision.

SCHNEIDER: Reagan could reach out to his political adversaries, whether it was the Democratic speaker of the House or the communist leader of the Soviet Union. A few days before the Republican debate, the featured guest at the Reagan Library was Senator Edward Kennedy.

BLACKWOOD: What we're trying to emulate here at the Reagan Library is to reach across the aisle and say, you know, Senator Kennedy, we may not agree with everything, but it's a good, consecutive debate that we're looking for. And we're proud to have Senator Kennedy here.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

COLLINS: Bill Schneider joining us now live.

Bill, nice to see you.

There's been quite a bit of talk and some complications, if you will, on both sides of the aisle here as far as these debates and whether or not people are actually going to show up to do them.

How did they get all 10 candidates to show up at this one?

SCHNEIDER: Two words -- Nancy Reagan. She personally invited the Republican presidential candidates to come to the Reagan Library. And if you're a Republican, you do not refuse Mrs. Reagan's invitation. It's both the sacred ground, to be at the Reagan Library. They all want to associate themselves with Ronald Reagan. And, of course, the invitation came from the widow of Ronald Reagan.

COLLINS: Right.

And, also, Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to be there, too.

Are there Republicans who wish he could be up on that stage tonight as an actual presidential candidate?

SCHNEIDER: I'm sure there are some. He's ineligible to run for president... COLLINS: Right.

SCHNEIDER: ... since he wasn't a natural born citizen. So under the constitution, he can't run. He's sort of trying to be the president of California.

COLLINS: Right.

SCHNEIDER: He has very ambitious programs to deal with global warming and health care right here in California. And I think a lot of people -- Republicans who say -- see that President Bush is in some trouble are wondering if Arnold Schwarzenegger is showing an alternative direction for the Republican Party.

He's much more of a centrist. He makes deals with Democrats. And he is very, very popular in California, in the nation's largest state. President Bush is very unpopular in California.

COLLINS: Wasn't he trying, too, for a while there, Bill, to change the constitution with that whole natural citizenship thing?

SCHNEIDER: There was some talk about doing that. But I think when he was talking about it, he said it wouldn't apply to him...

COLLINS: Right, right, right, right, right.

SCHNEIDER: ... it wouldn't apply to him, it would apply to future candidates.

And a lot of people wonder why is it still in there?

It would take some effort to change it and I don't think it could be done in time for Arnold Schwarzenegger to run.

COLLINS: Yes.

SCHNEIDER: But he really does have a following and a constituency here.

He did something interesting. He got in trouble in California. He apologized and he changed course. You don't see that happen too much.

COLLINS: Yes.

We hear a lot of apologies, though, don't we?

SCHNEIDER: Oh, yes.

COLLINS: All right, Bill Schneider, nice to see you.

Thank you.

SCHNEIDER: OK.

HARRIS: And let's get back to the severe weather story. What a day yesterday was for the folks in Texas, Fort Worth, Dallas.

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes.

HARRIS: Boy, when those storms are in the Plains and wide open, that's one thing. But when those storms enter into those big metropolitan centers, look what you get.

MYERS: Yes. That is the problem.

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COLLINS: In Iraq, developments on many fronts this morning. Conflicting reports on this man, said to have been killed by coalition forces. The U.S. says he is an al Qaeda militant linked to the kidnappings of two Americans. Iraq says he was also the leader of an insurgent umbrella group.

Regardless, today's announcement is seen as a blow to militants in Iraq. That death comes just days after tribal leaders reported killing this man, Abu Ayyub al-Masri. He is the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq. U.S. and Iraqi authorities have not confirmed al-Masri's death.

HARRIS: A diplomatic meeting in the Mideast.

The focus?

Iraq.

But the spotlight is falling on the U.S. Iran and Syria.

CNN's Zain Verjee reports.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)

ZAIN VERJEE, CNN STATE DEPARTMENT CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Iraq is supposed to be the star of this party, but the diplomatic dance between Iran and the U.S. may steal the spotlight.

A coy Condoleezza Rice is cracking open a door that could lead to the highest level talks in 30 years. She told reporters on her plane, if she runs into Iran's foreign minister, she is planning to be polite and see what the encounter brings.

The U.S. accuses Iran of helping Iraqi fighters with training and deadly explosive devices that kill U.S. troops. Once prepared to only talk about Iraq, Rice now says if the conversation wanders into Iran's nuclear program, she'll go with the flow. It's unclear whether Iran even wants to sit down with the U.S. without getting something in return.

JON ALTERMAN, CENTER FOR STRATEGIC & INTERNATIONAL STUDIES: Iran feels they have a very strong position. Iran is not looking to pick a fight, but Iran also doesn't feel a need to be helpful. VERJEE: And Iraq's Sunni Arab neighbors are coming with their own concerns, frustrated that Iraq's prime minister continues to shun Iraq's Sunnis. They're fearful of Iran's position as a powerful Shia force in the region and it's potential nuclear threat.

(on camera): Secretary Rice is playing down expectations at this summit, saying progress on Iraq will take time. But with competing agendas among Iraq's neighbors, it's hard to see how the focus can remain on Iraq's future.

Zain Verjee, CNN, Sharm-El-Sheikh, Egypt.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

COLLINS: Taking it to the streets -- the call for Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to step down goes public today. A massive rally is set to start just hours from now in Tel Aviv. Israelis are angry over their leader's handling of last summer's war against Hezbollah in Lebanon. They view it a failure because it did not result in the return of two kidnapped Israeli soldiers and it did not crush Hezbollah.

A newly resulted report on the war blames Olmert for "severe failures."

But the beleaguered leader is refusing to step down. He says he wants to be the one to fix the mistakes.

HARRIS: Sex, scandal and the seminary -- former New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey's new calling ahead in THE NEWSROOM.

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HARRIS: He was the nation's first openly gay governor. Now, New Jersey's Jim McGreevey says he's got a new calling. Some may find it a bit surprising.

CNN's Carol Costello reports.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)

CAROL COSTELLO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The mere suggestion Jim McGreevey could become a man of god is mind-boggling to many in New Jersey. After all, scandal has been his middle name.

But it's true. New York's General Theological Seminary told us: "We are pleased to confirm that he, Jim McGreevey, has been accepted to the Seminary's three year master of divinity program."

After graduating, McGreevey will decide if he wants to continue the process and become an Episcopal priest.

It's an interesting next step for a man who has publicly announced his failings. In 2004, when he was governor of New Jersey, McGreevey, with his wife beside him, told his constituents he'd lied to them. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, AUGUST 12, 2004)

JIM MCGREEVEY, FORMER GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY: My truth is that I am a gay American.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: Not only that, but he'd been having an affair with a staffer.

McGreevey created more controversy with his book, "The Confession," detailing his long struggle with his sexuality, sometimes graphically.

One memorable passage: "I settled for the detached anonymity of bookstores and rest stops, a compromise, but one that was wholly unfulfilling and morally unsatisfactory."

This year, McGreevey is in the middle of a sometimes bitter divorce. His wife appeared on "Oprah" this week, telling millions she was still angry at the damage he had caused.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM THE "OPRAH WINFREY SHOW," COURTESY HARPO PRODUCTIONS)

DINA MCGREEVEY: He had married -- married me for political gain. He lied and cheated on me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: All of this will matter in whether the Episcopal Church will allow McGreevey to become a priest. Speaking about the qualities the Church looks for, the bishop of New York told me: "Of course moral background matters. We don't expect people to be sinless, but to live a quality of life with a deeper knowledge of god."

Carol Costello, CNN, New York.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

COLLINS: Beautiful and majestic -- can you believe someone shot a bald eagle?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Concerning the shot, he is a lucky bird still. Of course, he shouldn't have been shot.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COLLINS: The national symbol getting ready to soar again. We'll tell you all about it, coming up in THE NEWSROOM.

HARRIS: Checking out the New World -- a royal visit just hours away. We have got the low down on where the queen is headed. That is coming up for you right here in THE NEWSROOM.

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HARRIS: OK, you are finding some bigger and bigger numbers here -- 9:00 a.m. until 12:00 Eastern.

Correct, Heidi?

COLLINS: Yes.

HARRIS: We love it. Thank you.

But did you know you could take us with you anywhere on your iPod?

The CNN NEWSROOM pod cast available 24-7 right there on your own personalized iPod. Look at the two of us there and everything.

COLLINS: A majestic symbol wounded but expected to soar again. This bald eagle on the mend in Huntersville, North Carolina. It has two shotgun pellets in its right wing. A man found the bird in his yard last week. A check-up shows the eagle is recovering. The male is getting antibiotics and having his wing stretched, as you do.

The wing is expected to -- I'm sorry. The eagle is expected to spread its wings on its own. But, you know, maybe he just thought it was a different bird of prey and accidentally, you know, shot it.

HARRIS: Yes. Mistakes happen, right?

COLLINS: Yes.

HARRIS: OK.

How about this?

A royal visit -- Queen Elizabeth II arrives in Virginia this afternoon. The queen and her husband, Prince Philip, will help mark the 400th anniversary of Jamestown, the first permanent English settlement in America.

The queen also plans to meet with families and survivors from Virginia Tech after attending the Kentucky Derby over the weekend. The royal couple will touch base with President Bush.

COLLINS: See, now I -- just like the bird of prey possible mistaken identity, I always think of her as Helen Miren (ph) these days.

HARRIS: Now you do.

COLLINS: Now I do.

HARRIS: Yes, yes.

COLLINS: Meanwhile, moving on to a story in Iraq today, both of -- both say he's a bad guy.

HARRIS: Yes.

COLLINS: They just don't agree on which one he is. Either way, a terror suspect out of the game. We'll tell you more about it, in THE NEWSROOM.

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COLLINS: Tonight, a CNN prime time event. Anderson Cooper takes us through 50 years of pop culture as seen through Larry King's trademark glasses.

Here's a moment in 1994 that unfolded on "LARRY KING LIVE," a moment we'll never forget.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE FROM "LARRY KING LIVE," 1994)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a Bronco. We believe O.J. Simpson is in it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All of the overpasses that we've seen have been lined with cars and pedestrians.

ANDERSON COOPER, HOST, "ANDERSON COOPER 360" (voice-over): It was the water cooler event of the '90s.

KING: They were in airports watching this. They were watching it in bars. All we're doing is along for the ride.

COOPER: Not a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) action flick, but a blockbuster just the same.

And the night?

Well, it belonged to Larry.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All of a sudden in one of the monitors I saw this white Bronco. So I called Atlanta.

I said what is this car?

KING: They busted into my ear and said O.J. is on the road in a Bronco being followed by police. So we go right to that.

OK, I'm going to have to interrupt this call. I understand we -- we're going to go the a live picture in Los Angeles.

Police believe that O.J. Simpson is in that car. This is Interstate 5, one of the many famed California freeways. We don't know if they're going north or south.

I don't know L.A. I live here now. And they bring me a map.

They veered off 91 onto 710 north.

And for three hours, following the roads on a map.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And we had so much adrenaline going in the control room and we just couldn't stop.

KING: Police radio is saying that Simpson, the passenger in the car, has a gun at his head.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, no.

KING: Which has explained why they haven't been stopping him and why they haven't moved up alongside.

This is really winging it, but that was the most high live drama.

COOPER (on camera): And do you like that?

KING: Oh, come on. It's the high of all highs.

COOPER (voice-over): The O.J. drama began on "LARRY KING LIVE" and six months later was still going hot and heavy in a Los Angeles courtroom.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely, 100 percent not guilty.

JOHNNY COCHRAN: If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.

MARCIA CLARK: Mr. Bailey has been caught in a lie.

JUDGE LANCE ITO: It became necessary for me to excuse one of the jurors in this case.

CLARK: Can you demonstrate for us how loud it was.

After he took her youth, her freedom and her self-respect, Orenthal James Simpson took her very life.

KING: You were totally shocked.

DENISE BROWN, NICOLE BROWN'S SISTER: I was totally shocked at the extent of all the abuse, yes. After I read her notes, I was completely shocked.

That's the one thing that Larry has been able to let me do is let people know who Nicole was, let me get the word, the issue of domestic violence out to the public.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

COLLINS: Anderson Cooper hosts a special two hour edition of "LARRY KING LIVE" tonight, looking at the top pop culture moments of the past 50 years.

It begins at 9:00 Eastern and it's only on CNN.

HARRIS: Well, it is a simple fact of life that when we get older, sometimes our feet begin to hurt more often. Here's another fact -- that occurs mostly in women.

The story now from medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen, in this morning's "30, 40, 50" report.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): As you age, your feet begin to feel the miles. When Donna Holladay turned 50, her feet felt twice that old.

DONNA HOLLADAY, SORE FEET: It's like walking on flat tires or something.

COHEN: That can be caused by years of wearing ill-fitting shoes or, in Donna's case, genetics.

HOLLADAY: I have this particular bump on my foot, which really hurts. That along with this corn on this side, which turns out to be a bone spur, have made my foot larger and a bit swollen.

COHEN: These types of problems can crop up at any age. Women have far more foot problems.

Why?

DR. RAMI CALIS, EMORY PODIATRIST: They want to wear nice, dainty type shoes. They're very, very pointy and they're, unfortunately, back in style now.

COHEN: High heels can take a toll.

CALIS: Not only by elevating your heel so high up does it throw off your back and your whole spinal curvature and tilt your hip forward, but it also forces your foot by pushing your foot forward and squishing all of your toes and your foot in this very tight, narrow space, as well.

COHEN: In your 30s, be kind to your feet now so you can use them later.

CALIS: That is the age to really be more self-conscious about the type of shoes you wear. Make sure you have good support in your shoes, shoes that are comfortable and fit well.

COHEN: Pregnancy affects your feet and even after you have your baby, your feet may stay a size larger, so adjust your shoe size.

In your 40s, keep flexibility and strength in your feet through exercise and stay light on your toes by losing weight.

And in your 50s...

CALIS: You want to remain active as best as possible and, again, get sensible shoe wear.

COHEN: So whatever you do on your feet, doctors say there's one final solution.

CALIS: We can fix anything with a big, wide ugly shoe.

COHEN: Elizabeth Cohen, CNN.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

COLLINS: White sands, black clouds -- a missile range has a close encounter with a tornado. We'll tell you about it in THE NEWSROOM.

HARRIS: Joan Baez forever the protester.

Was she banned by the Army?

Echoes from Vietnam, ahead THE NEWSROOM.

MYERS: Watching more showers and storms develop south of Dallas, Texas this time. Also, more rain into Louisiana. Some of that could be flooding.

We'll bring you the details, coming up.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COLLINS: Good morning, everybody.

I'm Heidi Collins.

HARRIS: And I'm Tony Harris.

Stay informed in the CNN NEWSROOM.

Here's what's on the rundown for you this morning.

A top terror suspect killed in Iraq, but which one is he?

The U.S. and Iraq come up with different identities for the body.

COLLINS: Texas bracing for another round of violent storms today. Fierce winds and floods leave widespread damage. Power lines tied in knots throwing thousands of people in the dark.

HARRIS: Still protesting after all these years -- singer, activist Joan Baez claims the Army kept her out of a concert for wounded vets.

It is Thursday, May 3rd, and you are in the CNN NEWSROOM.

COLLINS: Some 200,000 people in North Texas are waking up without electricity this morning.

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