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Queen Elizabeth II Feted in Jamestown; Cardinals Pitcher Drunk at Time of Fatal Crash; U.S., Iranian Representatives Miss Each Other at Summit; GOP Candidates Face off in First Debate
Aired May 04, 2007 - 13:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Don Lemon, live at the CNN world headquarters in Atlanta.
SUSAN ROESGEN, CO-HOST: And I'm Susan Roesgen, filling in just one more day for Kyra Phillips. She will be back on Monday.
Severe weather is threatening Louisiana and parts of the plains states today. CNN's Reynolds Wolf has the latest warnings, and he'll show you where the storms are heading.
LEMON: And a reception fit for a queen. CNN's Richard Quest and hundreds of Virginians greet her majesty for the 400th anniversary of the oldest British settlement in America.
ROESGEN: Plus, the fallout from the Republican debate. Did you see it? Which of these guys is apologizing today for something he said last night? CNN's Candy Crowley will have the details and the impact on the race for the White House.
You are live in the NEWSROOM.
We'll start with that rough weather in the Gulf states. Reynolds Wolf is in the CNN severe weather center to show us -- Reynolds.
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ROESGEN: Hey, Reynolds, real quick, a lot of people will be flying to New Orleans for Jazz Fest. It's one of the biggest events of the year. I'll be flying home tonight. Is it still going to be bad?
REYNOLDS WOLF, CNN METEOROLOGIST: You know, it is -- that's a very good question, Susan. It is going to be bad as we make our way into the evening. Definitely going to be some delays, I would say.
But not just for today. Tomorrow, we're looking at the potential of some rainfall back in the Big Easy. So if you're going out to Jazz Fest, make sure you bring a smile, but also, bring the umbrella with you. It would be a good idea.
ROESGEN: Not a lot of fun outdoors, though. But OK.
WOLF: Unfortunately, not.
ROESGEN: Thank you. WOLF: You bet.
ROESGEN: Don.
LEMON: We have another developing story for you. So far, about 20 bodies have turned up after a boat accident in shark-infested waters. Sixty-three people have been rescued, but about 60 others are still missing after a sailboat loaded with Haitian migrants capsized off of Turks and Caicos Islands in the Atlantic Ocean.
Now what exactly happened is unclear. One report says the police boat had intercepted the migrant vessel and was towing it to port when it flipped.
Thousands of bleary-eyed Americans and one bleary-eyed Brit, at least we know of, rolled out of bed before dawn today just to get a glimpse of Queen Elizabeth II when her majesty arrived in Jamestown, Virginia.
It's a busy day for the queen, and no one knows that better than our own Richard Quest. And he is there now.
Richard Quest, what is the atmosphere of the queen's visit this morning? You're a little bleary eyed. But you look like you're on top of it.
RICHARD QUEST, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Don, listen, when you said bleary-eyed, I thought you meant the queen!
LEMON: Oh, no! We're talking about, you know, the people who showed up and you. We're talking about you, Richard Quest, not the queen.
QUEST: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. It takes an early -- it takes more than that to keep me from being bleary-eyed. No, her majesty the queen here in Jamestown, Virginia. And what a magnificent day it was.
The queen arrived here. She was shown around the place. She looked at the recreation. She looked at the replica ships. She looked at the -- what they call the interpreters. These are the people who basically told her what it was like 400 years ago.
And then the Duke of Edinburgh. Now, he's a naval man. So he was very keen to go onboard the Susan Constant. That's the largest of the ships down here in -- down here at Jamestown.
And now her majesty is at lunch. The two have gone their separate ways. This is quite normal. What -- you know, they try and get maximum -- I think you have a phrase in the United States -- the maximum bang for the buck. Well, in this case, the bang for the buck comes, the queen goes off one way, the duke goes off another. And they manage to split their royal obligations and duties, so...
LEMON: All right, Richard Quest, you know what? The Kentucky Derby is tomorrow, and the queen will be going there. Why was that so important to the palace?
QUEST: Well, the Kentucky Derby -- right -- first thing's first. Back up a bit. You're clearly not familiar with the queen as being a woman of horse flesh. She knows one -- you know that old saying, you know, she knows one side of the horse from the other.
In fact, she's got race-horses, and the queen's mares have been sired in Kentucky over many, many years. She races over the flat. She loves racing. She absolutely adores it. In fact, it's often said she'd sell her lot down the river for a couple of extra good horses. And she's very successful at it.
Now, there's one race that she's never been to. That is, the Kentucky Derby.
LEMON: OK.
QUEST: So the queen has -- now you see, the other thing that I've also been learning on this trip, we didn't really know and we never always know, the queen has actually made several private visits to the United States. The palace never talk about them. But they're usually to Kentucky. They're usually to visit her good friends, people like the former ambassador, Mr. Farish, and it's always to talk about horses.
If you think the queen can often look a little sour, or perhaps as if she's not enjoying herself, I promise you, look at the face tomorrow. It will be [smiles] as opposed to [frowns].
LEMON: Wait, wait. Let's make sure our viewers got that, Richard. Let's do it again, on the full screen. Give me the...
QUEST: You get one bite at that. You get one...
LEMON: Come on, play along.
QUEST: Hey, hey, hey -- let me show you something. Let me show you something.
You see this?
LEMON: Yes. That's your passport.
QUEST: I -- I -- yes. The United Kingdom of Great Britain. I want to keep this. You get one bite at that one.
LEMON: Well, we'd gladly take you over here, as well, Richard Quest. Thank you.
QUEST: Thank you.
ROESGEN: And now we're going straight to the NEWSROOM and T.J. Holmes, who has developing news on a story in St. Louis -- T.J.
T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, St. Louis. Sad story from last week or this week, where we saw St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock died in a car accident. He was driving that vehicle, ran into the back of a flatbed truck.
Well, we did get word today from the medical examiner that, in fact, Josh Hancock was drunk at the time of that accident.
We are monitoring right now a press conference that's going on about this accident and about Josh. There's a live picture of that now. We are monitoring that, and as we get news out of that, we'll bring that to you.
But you'll remember this story. Early Sunday morning, he was in St. Louis, driving by himself, ran into the back of a flatbed truck that was parked on Interstate 64. He was parked in the -- in the fast lane.
He was going, according to police, 68 miles an hour in a 55-mile- per-hour zone. And, in fact, he was nearly twice Missouri's legal limit of .08 for legal intoxication. His level was .157.
In addition, police also said they found 8.5 grams of marijuana in his vehicle. He was not wearing his seatbelt at the time, but the medical examiner said, because of the impact of this crash and the devastating effect of it, it is likely that, even if he had been wearing a seatbelt, he may not have survived this crash. He did die instantly of head injuries.
There's a look at that vehicle. Just unbelievable impact.
But again, the word today -- it's been sad all week for the team and really for the whole baseball and sports community, but now it's some even sadder news, really, to hear. I hate to hear that, in fact, he was drunk at the time of that accident, Susan.
So again, we're monitoring that press conference. As we get information -- new information out of that. We'll bring it to you.
ROESGEN: OK. Thank you, T.J.
Now to the sometimes touchy world of international diplomacy. Brief encounters is how the U.S. diplomats are describing contacts today with Iranian diplomats at that big conference on Iraq in Egypt.
CNN Middle East correspondent Aneesh Raman joins us from that conference.
Aneesh, how significant were those brief contacts?
ANEESH RAMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Susan, I think they were more symbolic than in any practical sense significant. Both sides said nothing substantive was discussed.
We know that twice today U.S. and Iranian officials casually met on the sidelines of this conference that's now ended. At one point, the U.S. ambassador, the new U.S. ambassador to Iraq, met with the Iranian deputy foreign minister. At another point, he met with the Iranian ambassador to Iraq. But again, neither time did they discuss, specifically, the situation there. It was more a casual hello. The same situation we saw between Secretary Rice and her Iranian counterpart at a lunch yesterday.
The message, really, to the U.S. today was that the divide between Washington and Tehran is far deeper than that which exists between Washington and Damascus, Syria.
Yesterday, Secretary Rice met with her Syrian counterpart. We know that she wanted to meet with the Iranian foreign minister, at least talk to him last night at a dinner. The Iranian foreign minister, though, left before she came. Why? Well, there were reports that the entertainment and someone who was doing a violin concert for the dinner was wearing too short of a dress. He wouldn't confirm specifically what happened but said that the dinner wasn't meeting the Islamic standards. So he left before she came.
And it led Secretary Rice to have to face some questions today at a press conference as to whether she was chasing the Iranian foreign minister and had been snubbed. Here's what she had to say.
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CONDOLEEZZA RICE, SECRETARY OF STATE: I'm not given to chasing anyone. But I thought that -- we've had a very good conference here.
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RAMAN: Now, look, an important thing on both sides is they sat together in the building behind me. They were physically in the room at times. They acknowledge each other.
I just spoke with the Iranian foreign minister, Manouchehr Motakki, and his essential message was that Iran and the U.S. have nearly 30 years of diplomatic silence, issues from sanctions to previous to the revolution that took place, to Iraq, to the nuclear program. He said it simply cannot be fixed in a quick-fix discussion here at a summit like this.
He also said there was no advanced planning. But he left the door open for talks down the line.
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MANOUCHEHR MOTAKKI, IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER: We see the political need (ph) of realizing action and reach to a common agenda. Definitely, there is no barrier for talks and negotiation on Iraq.
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RAMAN: Now by political will, he means that a desire -- a genuine desire to interact with the Iranian government. I asked him who he thought had political will in the U.S. He had mentioned earlier he thought women in the U.S. had shown themselves more courageous than male politicians. Who? He said former secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, and the current secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice.
So both foreign ministers, while not talking to each other, talking to us in the press, have signaled that, down the line, something could happen in terms of direct talks. But there's such a history between these countries that no one should expect it to happen in any dramatically quick fashion, Susan.
ROESGEN: Lots of times, diplomacy begins with very small steps. Thank you. Aneesh Raman there, reporting live for us in Egypt.
Meanwhile, in Iraq, a series of raids in Baghdad's Sadr City has led to the capture of 16 suspects believed to be smuggling explosives in from Iran. And this same terrorist cell allegedly takes militants back to Iran for training.
LEMON: So you want to go to a fancy royal luncheon? We're going to take you there live right now. Take a look at these pictures.
You're looking at a lunch in Williamsburg, Virginia. There's the vice president, Dick Cheney. You see her back is to us. But that is former Justice Sandra Day O'Connor in pink and then Governor Tim Kaine, the governor of Virginia, standing up there. So they're at a luncheon.
And then tomorrow, the really interesting thing is they're going to head off to the Kentucky Derby. So they are doing that, and then they're going to visit William & Mary College a little bit later on today.
But then tomorrow, off to the Kentucky Derby, where you can be assured that there will be a nice interesting hat that the queen will be wearing, much to the like, I'm sure, of everyone.
ROESGEN: She has plenty to choose from.
LEMON: Plenty. Did you see all the hatboxes when they unloaded them off of the plane?
ROESGEN: Yes. We'll see those later. These guys carrying her hats.
LEMON: Her hat boxes.
ROESGEN: She wears one every day. It doesn't have to be the Derby.
LEMON: Well, there you go. She is royalty, after all.
Well, he's a watched man, a leading Democratic presidential candidate, now guarded by the Secret Service. We'll tell you why, straight ahead in the CNN NEWSROOM.
ROESGEN: And side-by-side, in the shadow of Ronald Reagan. GOP candidates for president square off in their first debate. The issues, the answers and the plugs, straight ahead in the NEWSROOM.
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LEMON: It is 16 past the hour. Here are three of the stories we're working on for you right here in the CNN NEWSROOM.
For the second day in a row, severe storms are rumbling through southern Louisiana and coastal Mississippi. Our Reynolds Wolf is keeping close watch on those developments.
St. Louis police say Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock was drunk when he crashed his SUV into a tow truck last weekend. He was killed instantly. Police also found marijuana in Hancock's vehicle.
Queen Elizabeth toured historic Jamestown, Virginia, today, 400 years after the first English settlers arrived there. There she is, live right now. Susan, you like the broach, the pearls, the hat...
ROESGEN: Everything.
LEMON: It's all looking good. She's very pulled together.
The queen also visited Colonial Williamsburg. Tomorrow, she stops at the Kentucky Derby in Louisville. Can't wait to see that.
ROESGEN: And now, potential political royalty in the U.S. The Republican presidential candidates agreed on just one thing at last night's debate. They all want to be like Ronald Reagan.
The debate took place at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in California, with Nancy Reagan looking on. Ten nominee wannabes took part, including the frontrunners, of course, Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.
Our Candy Crowley was there, too.
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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They talked Iraq, abortion, immigration, taxes and the legacy of Ronald Reagan. And the greatest of these was the war.
MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I want to get our troops home as soon as I possibly can. But at the same time, I recognize we don't want to bring them out in such a precipitous way that we'd cause a circumstance that would require us to come back.
TOMMY THOMPSON (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I believe the al- Maliki government should be required to vote as to whether or not they want America in their country.
CROWLEY: Of all of the candidates' muscular talk, John McCain, struggling to fire up his campaign, was the fiercest. On Iraq.
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R-AZ), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If we withdraw, there will be chaos, there will be genocide. And they will follow us home.
CROWLEY: On Osama bin Laden.
MCCAIN: We will do whatever's necessary. We will track him down. We will capture -- we'll bring him to justice, and I'll follow him to the gates of hell.
CROWLEY: Of the ten Republican presidential candidates debating at the Ronald Reagan Library, nine supported the war effort and warned against leaving too soon. And then there was one.
REP. RON PAUL (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Go to war, find it, and win it. But don't get into it for political reasons or to enforce U.S. resolutions or pretend the Iraqis were a national threat to us.
CROWLEY: In a party where opposition to abortion is an article of faith, the group was nearly unanimous that it would be a good day if Roe vs. Wade were overturned. And then there was one. Rudy Giuliani struggled with the issue, saying it would be OK if Roe were appealed, but later conceded while he is personally opposed to abortion, he is pro-abortion rights.
RUDY GIULIANI (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Since it is an issue of conscience, I would respect a woman's right to make a different choice.
CROWLEY: Debating in the shadow of Ronald Reagan's legacy, yards from his final resting place, the ten candidates all sought to pick up his mantle: a tough foreign policy, smaller government, and tax cuts.
MIKE HUCKABEE (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I would work for the fair tax, which meets the four criteria: flatter, fair, finite, family-friendly. We get rid of the IRS.
SEN. SAM BROWNBACK (R-KS), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'd put forward an alternative flat tax and allow people to choose between the current tax code system, which doesn't work, which ought to be taken behind the barn and killed with a dull ax...
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ROESGEN: Well, at least they tried to distinguish themselves, Candy, by their language.
You know, we didn't talk there about Tommy Thompson and his trying to say, "Look, I didn't understand the question last night on would I would fire someone who was gay." And today he's been on all the talk shows. He was here on "AMERICAN MORNING" saying, you know, "I'm sorry. I didn't hear it correctly."
Do you think this is the kind of wrong answer that's going to dog him for the rest of the campaign?
CROWLEY: Well, I think he tried to clean it up pretty quickly. And that's always the first rule in politic is if you've done something wrong, you need to move right away. You know, he was asked if it was all right for an employer to fire somebody because they were gay. And he said yes. He now says he misunderstood the question.
So he's moved pretty quickly to do it. On the other hand, you know, on the day after a debate, you don't want to be spending time correcting what you said. So it's not great news. But I doubt, you know, two or three weeks ago -- two or three weeks from now we'll be talking about it.
ROESGEN: OK. You also mentioned, in your report, the candidates different viewpoints on the Iraq war. Apart from that, how did they differ in their views from President Bush? Any remarkable things come up?
CROWLEY: Well, there were a couple of things, certainly, on stem cell research, which as you know, embryonic stem cell research, the president has limited federal funding on that. John McCain said he would expand it.
On immigration, you had someone like Tom Tancredo and others up there who were opposed to the president's plan, which they regard as amnesty.
You had, certainly, on the budget -- that was their biggest gripe with the president. And that is that he has spent sort of in Lyndon Johnson sort of Great Society terms. And a number of them said, "Listen, I know how to use a veto. I would use a veto on those big spending bills."
ROESGEN: You know, Candy, people who are only sort of dipping into the campaign now, only paying cursory attention at this point, they still want to know were there any winners or losers last night? Is it too soon to say there was a winner or several losers?
CROWLEY: Well, you know, I don't think anybody lost -- I think some people did themselves some good. I think Mitt Romney, who has not been on the stage with the frontrunners, Rudy Giuliani and John McCain, certainly presented himself well. Not that many people know him. Probably more people know him in a favorable light after this debate. It's, after all, their biggest audience so far.
John McCain, there have been questions dogging him. Did he have the passion? Was he really into this race? Sort of came out fiery, sort of obviously trying to dispel all of those questions about whether or not he had the fire in the belly anymore.
So I think some of them did themselves some good. I think there were mistakes along the way. But as everybody has described this, this is spring training. We're not in the regular season yet. So even hits here and even errors here don't matter as much as when we get into it later on down the line.
ROESGEN: Spring training, that's a good way to put it. Thank you, Candy Crowley.
CROWLEY: Sure.
ROESGEN: As always -- Don.
LEMON: Well, on the streets it's called cheese -- excuse me. Cops call it the new crack. It's cheap, it's a killer, and it's straight ahead in the CNN NEWSROOM.
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LEMON: Some developing news when it comes to the weather. Our Reynolds Wolf checking it out. A tornado somewhere, correct?
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LEMON: Reynolds Wolf, obviously, we'll be checking back with you today. Thank you.
WOLF: You bet.
ROESGEN: On the business front, when it comes to online search engines, you know Google is king. It's so popular that Google is now a verb in Webster's dictionary, to Google. But Microsoft and Yahoo! Would like to take down that industry leader.
Felicia Taylor is at the New York Stock Exchange -- Felicia.
FELICIA TAYLOR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Susan. Well, you've got that right. A merger between the two is far from a done deal, but it may be in the works.
Microsoft and Yahoo! considered a tie-up last year, but with no success. Now published support say Microsoft is once again pushing Yahoo! to enter into negotiations.
The back story here is that those two companies haven't been able to top Google. Just last month, Google outmaneuvered Microsoft to purchase Double Click, an Internet advertising company.
But together, Microsoft and Yahoo! could be force to be reckoned with. Online advertising is a weak spot for Microsoft. But combining with Yahoo! could give it a boost.
As for Yahoo!, analysts say it could benefit from Microsoft's technical expertise -- Susan.
ROESGEN: How close do you think they are, really, to a deal, then?
TAYLOR: Well, naturally with these kinds of situations, Microsoft and Yahoo! are not commenting yet. And any talks that are taking place are probably in the early stages.
There are, of course, obstacles. "The Wall Street Journal" says Yahoo! executives have a reputation for disliking Microsoft and even avoiding the use of Microsoft products. Keep in mind that Microsoft has traditionally shied away from big acquisitions, and of course, Yahoo! could be worth as much as $50 billion.
Investors, however, are hopeful. While Microsoft is down about 1 percent, shares of Yahoo! are surging 17 percent.
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TAYLOR: Coming up, at $647 million, Apple's Steve Jobs is America's highest-paid CEO. Next hour, I'll tell you who else is on the list and how some shareholders may get a say on pay. Don and Susan, back to you.
ROESGEN: Thanks Felicia.
Don?
LEMON: All right and now some developing stories news in the sports world. T.J. Holmes working it for us at the breaking news desk. What do you have for us T.J.?
T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: We're keeping an eye on this developing story. Of course a sad story really out of St. Louis. The news we got earlier this week about Josh Hancock the Cardinals' pitcher who died in that accident, a horrific accident you see there. He died after driving down the highway, a car, a flat bed truck actually was parked in the fast lane and he rammed into it. He was going 13 miles over the speed limit, but the news today is that in fact, Josh Hancock was drunk at the time of that accident. Actually almost twice the legal limit there in Missouri. We heard from a short time ago some of the Cardinals' officials -- team officials who spoke a short time and hoping that this will not be all that Josh Hancock's life will be remembered for. Take a listen.
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WILLIAM DEWITT JR., ST. LOUIS CARDINALS' CHAIRMAN: This tragic event must serve everyone everywhere as the ultimate cautionary warning -- do not drink and drive. But I also hope as we remember Josh Hancock, we will remember him for reasons beyond this past week. That we remember him with affection for his humor and thoughtfulness and respect for his competitive spirit.
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HOLMES: And, again, in addition to getting the news today that he was legally drunk. Also police said they found 8 1/2 grams of marijuana in his vehicle. He was at the phone at the time of that accident as well according to police. Also they found a glass pipe in the vehicle. But it's been a sad week. His funeral was on Thursday, after this accident was on early Sunday morning. Been a week of remembrances all around the league as they remember him during the games. So additionally some sad news today that in fact he was drunk at the time of that accident. Was not wearing his seat belt as well. Medical examiner says even if he had been, because of the impact and the devastation of this crash, don't know if that would have even helped him out because of the impact of it. So the news today -- Josh Hancock in fact was drunk when he had that accident. Back to you guys.
LEMON: Just terrible news I'm sure for the family and for the team as well. O.K., thank you T.J.
ROESGEN: Well, when you think of it, it is the hats, the famous drink, and oh yeah, the horses. The 133rd Kentucky Derby is a race fit for a queen this year. We are live at Churchill Downs coming up.
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LEMON: All right, it's no secret. Secret service agents are a new and visible presence around Barack Obama. Now here he is in New York today at a fundraiser. He was at the Metropolitan Club. An agency spokesman says he isn't aware of threats against the Democratic presidential hopeful, but fellow Senator Dick Durbin says disturbing information of a racial bent triggered yesterday's action by the Department of Homeland Security. Joining us now from Miami, a former secret service agent, Joseph Lasorsa. Talk to me about this. They said there was no threat that they could think of. There was some chatter on the internet, possibly, maybe among hate groups, some hate mail sent to his campaign. What distinguishes a threat or someone just on a blog, you know, writing something nasty? What makes a threat a threat in that respect?
JOSEPH LASORSA, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Well, essentially any type statement indicating an intent to inflict physical harm or a plan to disrupt or create a situation that could inflict some physical harm.
LEMON: So that's what -- we're not, again, not sure if there was a threat but they did say that there was chatter and that type of thing. Having chatter of this sort of bent -- especially of a racial bent, unusual in a campaign? I would imagine it may have happened when Jesse Jackson ran back in the '80s.
LASORSA: Probably did as well, yes.
LEMON: He was protected early on as well. Talk to me about that.
LASORSA: His protection began a lot earlier than usual, but, again, it's not unusual to establish protective coverage if there's any heightened level of threats being articulated.
LEMON: You served with several administrations, I would like to know how, now, might the candidates, Barack Obama's life change, the security detail around him. The number of people around him coming and going. I'm sure it will make it a little bit more difficult. How might his life change now.
LASORSA: Essentially it's going to make it a little less private, but on the other side, it's going to probably lend towards some -- some additional smoother logistics in planning. LEMON: How many people are we talking about around him?
LASORSA: There's usually a standard detail that they apply in presidential candidates. Specific numbers, they could vary. But I wouldn't be able to get into the specific numbers on it.
LEMON: All right, well we thank you for joining us and helping us to clarify some of this information.
LASORSA: No problem Don, my pleasure.
LEMON: Have a great day, thank you.
LASORSA: You too, take care.
ROESGEN: Well you know some people will be watching the horses and others will be watching the queen. Britain's Queen Elizabeth, as we said, is going to be at the Kentucky Derby tomorrow, the first leg of the triple crown. And already some on-line betting sites, get this, we're taking odds not on the horses but on what color hat the queen will wear and whether the hat will have feathers. CNN's Mary Jo Mitchell joins us now from Louisville. I like your hat, Mary Jo. Tell us about the royal touch there this year.
MARY JO MITCHELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Thank you.
ROESGEN: Yeah, it looks great. You're in the mood, you're in the spirit.
MITCHELL: You can't come to the derby without a hat. And as far as the queen's hat goes, I've heard maybe red and blue, maybe with white feathers, the colors of the British flag? Who knows? We'll have to wait and see. But, yes they are anxiously anticipating the queen's arrival here in Louisville. She will be here tomorrow -- [ inaudible ] a lot of horses her whole life. She's actually been in Kentucky a few times in the past. Never attended the derby. It has been one of her lifelong dreams to come here. So she will be here tomorrow indeed. In preparation for that visit, some of the workers have actually had to take some etiquette classes on how to deal with the queen should they come into contact with her. Things like do not touch her unless she, of course, holds out her hands. And you may touch her then. But do not touch her, do not mock her accent. Just speak in your normal speaking voice. A bow is appropriate even though we are not technically her subjects and she is to be called her majesty. So there have been lots of preparations put in place even with the staff here anticipating the queen's arrival. Susan?
ROESGEN: Mary Jo I know that people stay in the infield. I've never been to the derby, but I understand if you can't get one of the good seats up in the stands, you're in the infield. Do you know where the queen will be? Will she be behind you up in the glassed in suites?
MITCHELL: I can tell you she will not be in the infield, that's for sure. But she will probably be somewhere -- I don't know if you can see behind me where the twin spires are, she'll be just to the left of that, I am told, either on the fourth, fifth, or sixth floor. So we're not exactly sure where her location will be but that's where she'll be watching the race from -- high atop the infields. I guarantee you, she won't be down there.
ROESGEN: And does she actually bet? Does someone go and place her bets for her?
MITCHELL: There will be people made available for that we're told, if she does want to make a bet. She won't have to go to the betting window herself, someone will be there to take care of that for her.
ROESGEN: Well I can't imagine her not betting, I mean we were told earlier by Richard Quest that some of her own horses were bred there in Kentucky and she really knows her stuff. This isn't something that she's just a casual observer of, so. I bet there is a lot of excitement where you are because she's going to be there tomorrow.
MITCHELL: Absolutely. A lot of excitement for that and of course, for the derby. I mean this is something people look forward to all year. All of the pageantry that goes along with it. Buying the hats, of course. Even the guys are decked out to the nines. And of course you have to have a mint julep. The queen -- one bourbon company has actually made a cup especially for her that they're going to give her a mint julep in. And get this, the mint julep would cost you $1,000 because the ice is from Bavaria, the mint is from Ireland, and the sugar is from Australia. So that's quite an expensive drink.
ROESGEN: Well listen I can't let you go, but I almost forgot to ask you. What are the odds on the horse. Who's supposed to win this race?
MITCHELL: Which horse? The favorite keeps changing all the time. Curlin was set by the odds maker as the early morning favorite but we've seen today that changed already to some of the horses that prefer a sloppy track, because it's been a little bit messy here.
ROESGEN: Ok, thank you, Mary Jo, you'll fill in the excitement for us there at the Kentucky Derby.
LEMON: I think you need to get a hat like that and wear it right here on the air.
ROESGEN: My head is too tiny. I kind of hide under hats.
LEMON: Yes, see that's no big deal. My mom has hats like that and she wears them on Sunday to church.
ROESGEN: To church, I was going to say.
LEMON: Very southern, yes, Sunday go to meeting, you got it right on.
On the streets it is called "cheese." Cops call it the new crack. Unfortunately it is cheap, it is a killer, and it's straight ahead right here in the CNN NEWSROOM. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
ROESGEN: Here are three names that you might not have known. Keith Witherspoon, Diego Martinez and Scott Boone. They are three of 19 teenagers in Dallas County, Texas who have died because they tried a new street drug. It's called cheese. And the Dallas police say it's popular with young teenagers because it's cheap -- it's only about $2 a hit. Health officials though warn that it is the most instantly addictive and deadly drug since crack cocaine. And here with more is our medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen. Elizabeth, what is cheese? I hadn't heard of it before?
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Right, a lot of people haven't heard about it. As you can see in some of that video it's called cheese heroin because it looks like parmesan cheese. The counselors who we talked to said they have never seen anything like it. Let's look specifically at it because it's not just heroin. What this drug is, heroin mixed with over-the-counter nighttime cold medication. What these kids do is they take that capsule, the over- the-counter medicine and they crush it, and they mix it with the heroin, and then they snort it. So that's what this new drug is. And the counselors we talked to said it is especially popular with the 10 to 12-year-old set. They said they have one girl in their rehab hospital who her friend gave it to her as a birthday present if you can believe that. The clinic says that a year ago 80 percent of the pediatric patients were addicted to marijuana. Now, just one year later, 80 percent of their patients are addicted to this cheese, heroin.
ROESGEN: Well what makes the combination so dangerous?
COHEN: Really, it's the price. I mean when you get down to it of course it's the heroin and what it's mixed with. But really, the price, in a way, is what makes it so addictive. It's very easy access to this drug. It's easy to take it the first time. It's easy to keep on taking it. There are stories that kids are buying this stuff with their lunch money. Instead of having lunch they'll buy a few hits of this stuff. And what we're told is that of course the heroin causes awful health problems but in addition they're taking so much of this cold medicine, the kids are also turning up with liver problems because of the cold medicine.
ROESGEN: Is this just a problem in the Dallas area or have you heard reports of it in other places?
COHEN: We asked that question of a rehab hospital that has clinics in many different parts of the country. They said that it clearly is the worst in the Dallas area. They're not sure why it started there, but they said it has spread to other pockets in other parts of the country. They said it started out mostly among Hispanic youths, but they said that now black, white, Hispanic, rich, poor, they said they're seeing a lot of variations.
ROESGEN: Something else for parents to try to find, try to watch out for. COHEN: That's right, try to watch out for.
ROESGEN: Ok, thank you, Elizabeth.
LEMON: Family feuds, troubled times, and the making of a legend. Ahead in the CNN NEWSROOM, how a junior high dropout became an influence to a generation of Americans. You don't want to miss that. Straight ahead right here in the CNN NEWSROOM.
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LEMON: James Brown -- you know what they call him -- the Godfather of Soul -- the hardest-working man in show business. A cultural icon whose message helped to shape an entire generation. Well this weekend, get the real story on the remarkable life of James Brown in my special investigations unit report. Check this out.
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LEMON (voice-over): The James Brown of the late '60s. Was a man with a message. From a nobody who dropped out of school in the seventh grade to the somebody he always said he would be. Standing side-by- side with Vice President Hubert Humphrey.
JAMES BROWN: Want to get out and exercise --
LEMON: Encouraging kids to stay in school.
BROWN: And you won't be able to do nothing unless you have a good education.
CHARLES BOBBIT, MANAGER: Mr. Brown had a talent that until this date has been unequalled for any politician. People listened to him. He could talk to the masses.
BROWN: And talk he did. In April, 1968, in the wake of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination, cities around the country erupted in violence. The day after King's death, Brown was scheduled to perform in Boston, but city leaders feared he might stir up more trouble.
BRUCE TUCKER, BIOGRAPHER: The mayor of Boston, Kevin White, was under some pressure to cancel it. But after some tense negotiations in the limo, from the airport on the way to the garden, arrangements were made for WGBH there in Boston to broadcast the concert live to try to keep people home and off the streets.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All of us are here tonight to listen to a great talent, James Brown.
LEMON: The atmosphere that night was tense. Towards the end of the concert, many in the audience rushed the stage. Then, the police jumped in.
BROWN: I'll be all right. I'll be fine.
LEMON; Brown, unphased, kept the peace.
BROWN: We're black -- don't make us all look bad. Let me finish doing this show. Get off the stage.
LEMON (on camera): After the Boston concert, it became clear -- James Brown had sway with blacks -- so-called street cred. It became more apparent in the riot-filled summer of '68. After performing in Los Angeles back in his hotel room, James Brown saw a disturbing news report about black-on-black crime. It became inspiration.
BOBBIT: And he said come to my room, I want to show you something. So I walked up to his room and when I went in his room, laying on the desk, on two napkins, was "say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud."
LEMON: Just 40 hours later, the song hit the air waves and struck a nerve. It was finally OK for black people to say --
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Say it loud I'm black and I'm proud .
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LEMON: You know there's a lot more where that came from. Reynolds Wolf, I'm trying to get him to dance, Reynolds?
REYNOLDS WOLFE: I can't do it man. Busy day, this is about as much as I can do right here.
LEMON: I want to see you get on the good foot, Reynolds. He was dancing during the whole James Brown thing and now he won't dance. But there's more where that came from. Don't miss James Brown, the real story. My report for the CNN Special Investigations Unit. It airs Saturday and Sunday, at 8:00 p.m. eastern, only here on CNN. When I get back to the anchor desk, I'm going to make my cohort over there Susan Roesgen get on the good foot with me.
ROESGEN: Don't think so, but we're excited for you, we'll be watching.
Now a celebrity not looking so great. David Hasselhoff is being called on the carpet today after he fell off the wagon. We'll tell you about it. The back story of a disturbing video coming up.
Plus, a flat tire on a tall bridge -- the driver winds up in the water, but there wasn't a scratch on her. How did she survive that fall? That's ahead in the NEWSROOM.
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ROESGEN: A tire goes flat the driver pulls over, then she falls 20 feet into a river in Jacksonville, Florida. Today she can almost laugh about it. We get the story from Jennifer Bower of CNN affiliate WJXT.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a scary feeling.
JENNIFER BOWEN, WJXT (voice-over): Arlene Payan says she can't find the words to describe what was going through her mind as she flew over the side of the (INAUDIBLE) Point Bridge and into the water below. Standing on the side of 9A soaked from head to toe, Payan says she's lucky to be alive.
ARLENE PAYAN, SURVIVED PLUNGE OFF BRIDGE: Oh yes, I'm amazed. I am amazed.
BOWEN: This is how Florida Highway Patrol says it happened. Payan was driving southbound in the right lane when she got a flat. She pulled over the side of the road and got out of her car. The car immediately behind Payan swerved to avoid hitting her. A Hummer behind that car then clipped Payan's car, sending the 21-year-old over the side.
PAYAN: When I was walking towards the side of the car, I hear screeching of the other car hitting my car. I didn't even know what it was or anything until they told me it was a Hummer that hit my car.
BOWEN: Standing here at the base of the Dames Point Bridge you can sort of get an idea at how far the driver -
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