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Nancy Grace

Paris Hilton`s Jail Sentence May Be Halved

Aired May 17, 2007 - 20:00   ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight: Paris Hilton beats the rap. Star treatment takes on a whole new meaning. Celebutante Paris Hilton drives drunk, then violates probation two times. But tonight, we learn her sweetheart sentence of 45 days in ladies` lockup slashed by half. We also learn Hilton is too famous to serve time with GP -- general population. Instead, Hilton will relax in a more exclusive private section of the jail. But there is an alternative. The so-called toughest sheriff in America offers to house Hilton for the full 45 days in Arizona`s Tent City, a tent city for criminal wrongdoers.
And tonight: Music icon Michael Jackson walks free on child molestation charges, but he`s headed back to court, fighting an auction of thousands of personal items, allegedly including drawings and photos of unclothed little boys. No wonder Jackson`s legal team swoops in to stop the auction.

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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us tonight. First, to LA, where it`s Lady Justice versus Paris Hilton.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now Paris Hilton`s getting her jail sentence slashed in half before serving a single day. The hotel heiress, originally sentenced to 45 days in an LA County jail, will now serve just 23 days. Sheriff`s officials say she`s not serving her full sentence because the state allows time off for good behavior. Hilton`s also off limits from the rest of her inmates, where she`ll stay in a special needs housing unit. It`s not the Hilton, but many are asking, Is this treatment fair?

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GRACE: Welcome, everyone. Tonight we learn that the sentence for Paris Hilton, before she`s ever even put one dainty toe behind bars, on not only a DUI but violating sweetheart terms on probation, her time has been slashed in half for so-called good behavior. Correct me if I`m wrong, but what good behavior?

Out to Sibila Vargas, CNN correspondent. She is joining us live from the jail where Paris is now set to serve just 23 days. Sibila, how did this happen?

SIBILA VARGAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know what? I think a lot of us are scratching our heads. That was my response from the very beginning. Twenty-three days -- you cut it in half for good behavior? Didn`t understand it. I had to call the LA County`s Sheriff Department because, apparently, the good behavior was that she had turned up in court the last time. So that was good behavior.

And also, they`re speculating that she could also do very well when she`s in jail. They`re hoping that that`s what she`ll do. So that`s her good behavior. So today, I was baffled, like so many other people, and I had to call the LA County`s Sheriff`s Department. I spoke to the spokesperson there. Apparently, he was also inundated, like, so many calls, his phone was ringing off the hook. He didn`t even want to talk to me. He said, Sibila, I have no comment. I`m going on vacation. Everyone has called. I said, Well, you haven`t spoken to me yet. And he says, Well, there`s too many people calling about this. I have no comment. And I think, you know, they`re going to be under a lot of scrutiny because of this.

GRACE: Wait a minute. Who did you call?

VARGAS: The LA County Sheriff`s Department. I spoke to Steve Whitmore, who is the spokesperson there, and I tried to get -- to find out why it was that she was served with -- what kind of good behavior does this constitute? And that -- and he said, Look, I`ve spoken about as much as I can about this. The good behavior was the fact that she, again, was in court the last time. She made it to court. And they`re expecting her to have good behavior or to be on her best behavior when she actually gets to jail.

GRACE: Well, maybe the LA County sheriff forgot, but she was late to court, and then her mother heckled the judge and the prosecution from back in the gallery. I don`t know what kind of behavior that constitutes.

Out to you, Susan Moss. What kind of message does this send?

SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: It sends a terrible message. There has been no good behavior. She showed up late to court. Allegedly, she committed perjury during that hearing, and allegedly, she got her PR man to also commit perjury during that hearing. That does not constitute good behavior. Nobody -- nobody should have this happen to them. This is absolutely unfair.

GRACE: Joining us tonight is a very special guest whose cause is dear to my heart. Glynn Birch is joining us. He is the national president for MADD, Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Not only that, on May 3 of `88, Glynn`s son, Courtney, was playing with two older cousins. He was killed instantly.

I want to go out to Glynn Birch. Glynn, thank you for being with us. What is your response to slashing the sentence in half?

GLYNN BIRCH, MADD NATIONAL PRESIDENT: You know, first of all, MADD`s very disappointed that Hilton -- Paris Hilton has not accepted the responsibility of what she`s done. You know, a 5,000-pound vehicle in the hands of a drunk driver is a deadly weapon. Thirteen thousand people die each year due to drunk driving, and over half a million are injured.

Luckily, no one was hurt or injured, and as a result, you know, she has another opportunity. But she`s setting a very bad example. And what we say for people who are arrested for drunk driving, they deserve an alcohol ignition interlock placed on the vehicle so they can provide -- or it helps them drive and keeps the public safe from the behavior.

GRACE: Glynn, I know that you sometimes tire of telling the story about your son, Courtney. I understand that an ice cream truck came along and he was lured by the ice cream truck, and then a car barreled down on him and killed him?

BIRCH: Yes. It was May 3, and seems like it still -- like it was yesterday. But he was out beside the road, getting ice cream, like, you know, any kids do. We often see the neighborhoods. But the car was going over 70 miles per hour when it struck Courtney, drug the body 150 feet before the car finally stopped. You know, the driver that killed my son had three prior convictions, blood alcohol level of .26. They had no idea why he was behind the wheel. He was driving on a revoked license.

And I`ll tell you that nationally, 75 percent of the drivers continue to drive when their license is revoked or suspended. So it was a terrible tragedy that took place, but it could have been prevented. And that is what we have to do is have a deterrent. And when I talk about the ignition interlock vehicle placed on vehicles, that`s a deterrent. Who wants to have an ignition interlock placed on their vehicle? But I`ll tell you, it...

GRACE: Hey, Glynn. Hold on. I want to show this beautiful child. Gorgeous. What -- what mother, what woman, what father in this country would not want to raise this little angel and see him grow up and graduate from high school and college, grow to be a man? This is Glynn Birch`s baby boy. And that`s why he speaks the way he does tonight.

You know, Mr. Birch, many people say she didn`t hurt anybody. What`s your response?

BIRCH: I didn`t hear the question. I`m sorry.

GRACE: A lot of people say, Paris Hilton didn`t hurt anyone. What`s the problem? What is your response to that argument?

BIRCH: We`ve got to stop it before she hurts someone. I will tell you that my son, who was the youngest, will never be back in my life. And the devastation -- you know, it`s an adjustment. It`s something that you can`t forget about. We don`t want to hurt anyone, and the way we do that is by obeying the law. You know, if you have a driver`s license, it`s a privilege. But when your driver`s license is taken away and your license is suspended and you continue to drive, you deserve the sentence that you get. We don`t want to have injuries or deaths, so we have to immediately hold her responsible.

GRACE: Glynn Birch, I am on your side. Everyone, Glynn Birch is joining us. He is the national president of Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

I want to go back out to David Caplan, celebrity journalist. David, I don`t understand it. I guess the sheriff didn`t want to take calls and didn`t want to give a comment to Sibila Vargas, I guess because he`s ashamed. This woman has not done one thing to justify good time. She hasn`t even gotten into the jail. All she`s done is violate probation and show up to court late. I don`t get it.

DAVID CAPLAN, CELEBRITY JOURNALIST: Yes, I mean, it`s a mystery what good behavior is. Merely showing up to court. But again, she was, like, 15 minutes late on that day. She has been out and about. She was even driving after she was initially slapped with a 45-day jail sentence, just essentially thumbing her nose at the sentence. So it`s very -- it`s bizarre. And in fact, she`s even slated to host a party in Miami this Saturday night.

GRACE: OK. Take a listen to this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The point was made that Paris has gone into hiding a little bit. I disagree. She`s been out at the Polo Lounge. She`s been at Teddy`s nightclub, which is the hottest spot for young Hollywood.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s expected in Miami this Saturday night at Casa Casuarina, which is Versace`s old mansion. And she`s going to be hosting a big party there in Miami, which is the place to go if you`re a celebrity, you`re young and you want to party.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There`s been people who`ve seen her around alcohol, who have seen her partying. Whether -- what she`s doing when people aren`t looking, we don`t know, but she really hasn`t changed her lifestyle that much.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Paris?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, just imagine, the heir to the Hilton hotel fortune bunking here. Not with the men, of course, but in Tent City for women, with none of the comforts of home.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ah! Look at that!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Arpaio says he made the offer to bring Ms. Hilton to Tent City to help the overcrowding problem in Los Angeles. The sheriff says he`s got the room and the know-how to deal with celebrities.

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GRACE: Joining us tonight, that sheriff, the so-called toughest sheriff in America, Sheriff Joe Arpaio with Maricopa County. He has offered to house Hilton in his facility for the full 45 days. Sheriff, it`s great to see you on the air again. You`ve got a lot of admirers. Tell us about your Tent City, where Paris would be housed.

SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO, MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA: Well, you know, it`s about 140 degrees in the summertime. Our meals are 30 cents a day. They have to wear pink underwear, striped uniforms. So it`s not nice, but you know, when you violate the law, you should be punished. That`s my philosophy. When you do the crime, you do the time. You don`t do the crime and do half of the time.

So I`m not going to criticize the sheriff out there. I did call him and said, If you need help, I`ll take the defendant off your hands. But it`s a system out there in California where everybody seems to get good time, not just this person.

GRACE: Sheriff Arpaio, what led you to offer your Tent City for Paris Hilton?

ARPAIO: Well, I was trying to help another sheriff. He had some problems out there with overcrowding in the jail. And why not bring her here? I have plenty of room -- 10,000 inmates, 2,000 in the tents. And I sure can take an extra person in there. It was a lot of publicity. I think we should send a message to everybody. I don`t care if you`re rich or whatever, if you do something wrong, you have to pay the consequences. She`s idolized by many, many young people, unfortunately. This does not send a good example to those young people.

GRACE: You know, Bethany Marshall, Dr. Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst and author, that`s something that has really stumped me. You know, I thought kids wanted to grow up to be doctors, lawyers, rappers, superstars. No offense, but with all her money and position, did she even try to go to college? I mean, why do people want to be like Paris Hilton?

BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST: I think people want to be...

GRACE: She`s beautiful...

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MARSHALL: She`s gorgeous. She may be a shrewd businesswoman. But there`s the illusion that she`s loved, admired and seen for doing absolutely nothing. And there are a lot of kids in our culture who don`t feel loved by their parents, and the idea of being loved just for who they are is very appealing.

But I want to make a comment about Glynn Birch and his unfortunate situation with his child. You know, whether you rob a bank, whether you`re a child molester or whether you violate the conditions of probation, one thing that everybody has in common who violates the law is a profound disruption of conscience.

And what I would do, if Paris Hilton was my patient, I would sit her in a room with Glynn Birch. I would show her a picture of that little boy. I would say, How do you think this father feels? How does he feel right now? How does he feel about you driving that Bentley? How would he feel if you plowed into a little boy, like his little boy was plowed into? And I would get her to track with his thoughts because that is the only thing that`s curative, as well as these other deterrents that Glynn Birch and everyone on your show has been talking about tonight, is learning to feel other people`s feelings in a more serious way.

GRACE: You know, it hurts me to even look at the photo of Glynn`s little boy. And I guess he would be almost 21...

BIRCH: Yes. Yes.

GRACE: Or 22. And he`s just -- hold on. Out to the lines. People want to talk to you, Glynn. Jackie in South Carolina. Hi, Jackie.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy.

GRACE: What`s your question, dear?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is, how can you possibly get good behavior for a court-ordered appearance? How is that considered good behavior, when you have to show up?

GRACE: Out to the lawyers, Ray Giudice out of Atlanta, Michael Cardoza, defense attorney and author, out of the San Francisco jurisdiction. How is that, Michael Cardoza?

MICHAEL CARDOZA, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I`ll tell you, Nancy, here in California, that`s the way the law is. If you`re sentenced to county jail, for every two days you do in jail, you get one good time work (ph) time day. She doesn`t have that yet. When she goes in, she earns those credits. So theoretically, she should be doing 30 days. Because it`s crowded there at the jail, apparently, they`re going to let her out after 23 days.

But you`re all sounding like this lady killed somebody or did something really horrific. This is what every other person gets in this state, so why should Paris be treated any differently? Why should she have to do the entire 45? Nobody else does.

GRACE: I disagree with you that this sentence of just 45 days...

CARDOZA: You disagree about what?

GRACE: ... is what everybody gets. I don`t think that`s what everybody gets.

CARDOZA: Nancy, she got a little more time than most people get in this state for what she did. I`m not going to argue the 45 days. She, in my opinion...

GRACE: Well, nobody`s asking you...

CARDOZA: ... failed the attitude test...

GRACE: ... to argue anything! I`m telling you...

CARDOZA: Nancy...

GRACE: ... that she could have gotten 90 days behind bars!

CARDOZA: Sure, she could have, but...

GRACE: I don`t care if you argue anything or not!

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CARDOZA: ... depending on the judge.

GRACE: This is inappropriate!

CARDOZA: No, what`s inappropriate about what she`s doing? Every other prisoner...

GRACE: She hasn`t even...

CARDOZA: ... that gets 45 days...

GRACE: ... put a toe in the jail. How do I know she`s not going to show up with one of these?

CARDOZA: Nancy, they make her...

GRACE: Have you ever seen a shank, Ray Giudice? How do I know she`s not going to show up with one of these, which is farfetched. I know that.

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GRACE: I think this is to Ray Giudice, Michael!

CARDOZA: Nancy, listen. She won`t get her (INAUDIBLE)

RAY GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: She won`t get her good time. She`s got to earn it.

CARDOZA: It`s really simple.

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GRACE: OK. I`m directing this to Ray Giudice, if you have an answer. My question is...

GIUDICE: I`m ready, Nancy.

GRACE: My question is, How can she get good time when she hasn`t done anything good yet?

GIUDICE: She has to earn the good time. The court appearance is one credit. Every day she`s in, she`s going to get earned credit. If on day three, she pulls a shank and causes a fight -- listen to Michael. He`s right. She`s not getting any more good time. It`s the same here in metro Atlanta, 30 days or more in the county jail, you start earning good time credit. You take the classes, you work...

GRACE: Buh! Buh! Buh! Buh! Buh!

GIUDICE: ... in the kitchen...

GRACE: Wa-wait!

GIUDICE: ... you get good time.

GRACE: Wait! Wait!

GIUDICE: OK.

GRACE: You said, You get in, you work in the kitchen, you go to your classes, you get good time.

GIUDICE: That`s right.

GRACE: She hasn`t done any of that yet! So why has her sentence already been slashed almost in half?

GIUDICE: It hasn`t been. You people keep focusing on that it`s already been slashed. It has not. She is eligible, just like every other inmate in that jail on a misdemeanor sentence, to earn good time. That`s what the court (INAUDIBLE)

GRACE: Out to you -- out to you, Sibila Vargas, joining us live from the jail. It`s my understanding that the jail has already announced that she will be doing 23 days.

VARGAS: That`s what we get. I mean, that`s according to the wires. That`s according to when I spoke to the spokesperson for the LA County Sheriff`s Department. I mean, I`m not a legal expert. I don`t know that particular, but that`s what everyone has been reporting. That`s what`s in the wires, and that`s what we know.

So you know, again, I do -- I do agree. I do think that maybe this has to do with her good behavior because I was told that that`s also the good behavior that they`re expecting her to do in jail. And again, if she does get out of line, I will have to agree -- if she does get out of line...

GRACE: So what you`re...

VARGAS: ... she is going to have to...

GRACE: ... telling me, Sibila Vargas...

VARGAS: Her jail time could get longer.

GRACE: And you have called the sheriff and said her sentence is now standing at 23 days. So Ray Giudice and Michael Cardoza, you can put that in your pipe and smoke it during this commercial break.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We actually thought Paris`s career was done back in 2004, when her scandalous sex tape surfaced on the Internet. No such luck. Surprisingly, it seemed to make her more famous.

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GRACE: Apparently, the jail sentence for Paris Hilton has been slashed in half, and she hasn`t even set a foot in the jailhouse yet.

Out to the lines. Vanessa in Illinois. Hi, Vanessa.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. I have respect for what you stand for. Here`s my question. My question is, if she is given the 23 days, from the time she starts and she`s in jail, can she obtain more time off for good behavior, meaning she won`t even serve the full 23?

GRACE: Vanessa, I couldn`t hear you question. Will you repeat, please?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. My question is, if she starts from the 23 days, and she continues with good behavior while she`s in jail, does she get time off for that good behavior, as well?

GRACE: You know, interesting question. Michael Cardoza, if you`re through smoking that pipe...

CARDOZA: I`m through smoking it, Nancy. And I`ll tell you...

GRACE: How would that work? Would she...

CARDOZA: ... it gave me clarity.

GRACE: ... get even less?

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CARDOZA: No, she cannot get less. That`s it. If she goes in...

GRACE: How about with jail overcrowding?

CARDOZA: ... and if she behaves, then it could be lowered to that. Now, there have been instances where the jails like Lynnwood are so crowded, they toss them out early. But that`s not for good behavior, that`s the sheriff`s choice.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We interviewed people involved with the sheriff`s department, who told us quite extensively about what to expect there. And you know, the joke has been made a million times, but it is no Hilton. It is a -- it`s what you would expect. It`s a confining, somewhat depressing, very rigid place, where, you know, the goal is to mete out punishment, and that is what will happen.

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GRACE: Apparently, Paris Hilton`s short sentence has already been cut almost in half, from 45 days to 23 days. Is celebrity winning the battle with Lady Justice? And here`s the alleged good time. There`s Paris Hilton behind the wheel of a car, smoking, partying, drinking. That`s the good time. Her sentence in half for good time.

Out to the lines. Jennifer in Maine. Hi, Jennifer.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. How`re you doing, Nancy?

GRACE: I`m good, dear. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was wondering, how come after her original DUI arrest, she wasn`t given a bail restriction against going into bars and drinking alcohol?

GRACE: You know -- to Ray Giudice -- she had several conditions on her probation, which she violated. Why is that?

GIUDICE: Nancy, there`s absolutely no question her revocation of her probation was a slam dunk against her on multiple counts. So that`s clear...

GRACE: You know what, Ray? I can`t hear you. You`ve dropped your mike.

What about it, Michael Cardoza? What about when someone refuses to follow the conditions of probation?

CARDOZA: Well, then their probation gets violated. But usually, on a first-time driving under the influence, they don`t put that type of condition on it unless you`re a full-blown alcoholic and they can prove it. Just a simple DUI...

GRACE: Can you see these pictures?

CARDOZA: Say that again?

GRACE: Can you see these pictures?

CARDOZA: Nancy, she`s partying. You don`t know whether she`s been drinking there or not. That`s not fair to look at those pictures and say that.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you tell me what you`re wearing tonight?

PARIS HILTON, HOTEL HEIRESS: Esteban Cortazar.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why did you pick it?

HILTON: Because I love it. This is Julia McDonald (ph), a British designer. I love it. I`ve been wearing it for years.

BROOKE ANDERSON, CNN HEADLINE NEWS ANCHOR: What mischief did you get into?

HILTON: A lot. A couple more parties.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, just imagine. The heir to the Hilton Hotel fortune bunking here, not with the men, of course, but (INAUDIBLE) for women, with none of the comforts of home.

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GRACE: Welcome back. Tonight, we learn that an already brief sentence behind bars is being slashed in half for celebrity Paris Hilton. As we went to break, Michael Cardoza pointed out that she`s not doing anything wrong in any of these pictures, not drinking or anything else. Hey, Cardoza, get your glasses out, friend. Take a look at that apparently -- well, I was showing it to you, a hand rolled cigarette in her hand behind the wheel? Can you...

MICHAEL CARDOZA, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Do we know if there`s a green, leafy substance in there? Or maybe it`s just tobacco. You don`t know. I don`t know.

GRACE: You know, Michael, I appreciate that. Note to self: When charged with pot smoking, hire Michael Cardoza. Let`s take a look at...

CARDOZA: No question about it. I agree with that.

GRACE: If you could just keep your eyes on the screen. Could you continue, Elizabeth, with the photos? That would be great. There`s the hand-rolled cigarette. That`s Paris on a cell phone. That`s not really going to help either side. If you take a look at the big margarita in her hand, I guess you want me to believe that that`s prune juice.

CARDOZA: You know, Nancy, who knows what it is? But, you know, we`re getting...

GRACE: Oh, oh, oh. Look at that. There`s about 20 -- no, no, no. You look. No! You look!

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CARDOZA: I got it. I can see.

GRACE: OK, Elizabeth, do I have to cut his mike? Take a look at this photo, because you said you can`t tell whether Paris Hilton is drinking. This is...

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CARDOZA: Nancy, your logic is she`s having a drink, therefore she`s an alcoholic.

GRACE: I would like to continue with the photos. Thanks. Oh, that`s a good shot for Michael Cardoza. Here we go at another bar, drinking apparently, unless she`s drinking fruit juice. Maybe it`s bottled water. You know, Michael Cardoza, as we went to break, said, "How do we know she`s drinking? She could just be out kicking her feet up, having a good time."

CARDOZA: Sure.

GRACE: To you, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, you have housed celebrities in your facility. What do you think about this slash in the sentence by half?

JOE ARPAIO, MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF: Well, like I said, the judge knows this is like an entitlement. Everybody that goes to jail usually gets a cut in half. Maybe he should have jumped the sentence to 100 days and then she can do 50.

But they have a problem in California. And, like I say, I run a different type of operation here. She would be doing times in the tents, and it`s not nice doing time in the tents, especially in the summertime. And on our female chain gang, I have the only female chain gang in history. So I wish I could have her come here to send a message to the young people around our nation that you don`t have any special treatment just because you have a lot of money.

GRACE: Also, tonight, we learn the possibility, David Caplan -- and this is totally wrong on Paris` confidentiality behind bars -- that already there is a price by photogs, paparazzi, for photos of her behind bars. I find that highly inappropriate. It won`t be another inmate. It will be someone that works at the jail getting a photo of Paris Hilton. It could go for $200,000, $250,000.

DAVID CAPLAN, "STAR" MAGAZINE: Yes, absolutely. That`s a lot of times how a lot of these photos surface. You know, we had that with Martha Stewart. A lot of times, unfortunately, it`s people on the inside who sell these photos, and a lot of the paparazzi agencies are going to be buying these photos for upwards of $500,000. And, of course, the price ranges. If it`s just a photo of Paris, say, from far away, in the yard, that could maybe be $250,000. If you get Paris crying, that ups the ante. So it`s a very sort of vicious way of getting the photos, and it`s a little unfortunate, but everyone wants to make money in this.

GRACE: Highly inappropriate.

And to Sibila Vargas, we checked on the incomes of jailers behind bars and they go anywhere from $30,000 to about $60,000. If one of them can make $250,000, $300,000 off one photo from a cell phone, what is the jail doing to ensure that won`t happen? That`s wrong.

SIBILA VARGAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, they definitely are going to have her separated from the general population. I know that. She`s going to be in a special housing unit, which is only for high-profile celebrities. They`ve got some police officers, anyone who, you know, would be in a position where they would be harmed.

And let`s face it: Paris Hilton is a beautiful girl. Everybody knows who she is. There`s a lot of bad sentiment out there for Paris Hilton, and they`re just hoping that she`s not harmed, and that`s why they`re putting her in this facility.

GRACE: I`m not quite sure why she is being treated like former cops behind bars.

Out to the lines, Anne Marie in Colorado, hi, Anne Marie.

CALLER: Hi there. Colorado loves you, first of all.

GRACE: Hello to my friends in Colorado.

CALLER: Great. First of all, she`s a repeat offender. That`s obvious. And second of all, why no restitution? Why no community service?

GRACE: You know, out to you, Susan Moss, it`s highly unusual. She was offered to go to classes and refused.

SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Absolutely. She should be doing restitution for what she has done. And I`ll tell you something else: The only people who should look up to Paris Hilton are short people, and that`s only because she`s 5`8". She has done nothing to show that she is remorseful, in terms of her deeds and her acts, in terms of doing community service, in terms of signing up for that course on alcohol awareness. She has done none of this and does not deserve the half cut in her sentence.

GRACE: Out to you, Glynn Birch. Glynn is the president of MADD, Mothers against Drunk Driving. He`s a national president, his son killed by a drunk driver. When you see these photos that we were showing earlier of her drinking with a hand-rolled cig, at best, behind the wheel, to me, that`s just rubbing our noses in the fact that she`s getting a light sentence for DUI.

GLYNN BIRCH, MADD NATIONAL PRESIDENT: First of all, we`ve got to all admit that Paris Hilton could have had a limo driver or chaperone drive her when the license was suspended. But, you know, studies have clearly shown that first-time offenders, doesn`t mean it`s a first time that they drank and drove.

Estimates are anywhere from 80 to 200 times that they`ve driven drunk before they were actually caught. So I`m like many of the callers, you know. We need to really figure out who the victim is. And I will tell you that I can show them 41,000 families that we helped being injured and lost lives that she can talk to and understand the choices she`s making. It`s a privilege, and she is abusing that privilege and setting a bad example.

GRACE: Out to the lines. Carolyn in Indiana, hi, Carolyn.

CALLER: Hi, Nancy. Love your show.

GRACE: Thank you, love. What`s your question?

CALLER: Actually, Susan Moss just kind of addressed it about the alcohol education classes, with that part of her probation, and she didn`t sign up for them.

GRACE: What do you think about the sentence, Carolyn? Do I have Carolyn? What, dear?

CALLER: I think she should do the whole time.

GRACE: I want to go back out the Sibila Vargas, CNN correspondent, live at the jail where Paris will serve 23 days. What do we know about the day behind jail? What will it be constituted? What is it?

VARGAS: June 5th would be the day that she is going to jail. And I have to tell you, the one thing that we haven`t spoken about is that she`s no longer going to appeal this. You know, she was vowing to fight this all the way, and she`s no longer going to appeal this, because I think she realize that she`s got it pretty good.

Like you said, she could have had 90 days, you know, and she ended up getting 45 days. It`s now been slashed to 23 days. I think her attorneys are probably saying, "This is it, Paris. This is as good as it gets."

GRACE: Sibila Vargas joining us there at the jail, where Paris is now set to serve half of her sentence, just 23 days behind bars.

Very quickly, breaking news tonight in the case of a missing Orlando young woman, Jennifer Kesse. Police news conference today, the 24-year-old beauty reported missing a year ago when she didn`t show up at work. No one had seen or heard from her since.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Michael Jackson is trying to block an auction of personal items scheduled for the end of May, but a Florida businessman threatens that, if Jackson puts up a fight, he may auction some very embarrassing items. Those items include sex toys, pictures of naked boys, and lightening cream.

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GRACE: Michael Jackson`s legal team swoops in to put a temporary restraining order on a public auction, an auction of thousands of Jackson`s belongings, allegedly including photos and drawings of young boys without all their clothes on. We`ll find out.

Out to you, Jane Velez-Mitchell, investigative reporter and author. What`s the latest?

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, this auction is set to happen in about two weeks at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, Nancy. As you mentioned, approximately a thousand lots that they expect to get as much as $100 million for. That`s their estimate. The purported owner of this stuff says he`s already been offered $50 million privately. He thinks it can fetch $100 million.

We`re talking about all sorts of Jackson memorabilia, from Janet Jackson`s ballet shoes to Michael Jackson`s sunglasses, his fedora, his jacket with epaulets.

Now, Michael Jackson is absolutely furious that this auction is going on. He`s tried to get and gotten a temporary restraining order. There`s going to be a hearing in Las Vegas tomorrow. It`s a closed-door hearing, but sources tell us Michael Jackson himself might actually show up.

On the other side of this, you have the man who says he rightfully purchased this stuff and he says, if Jackson doesn`t back down, he`s going to reveal and release and auction off some of the more embarrassing items that he`s held back. And he says some of those include, allegedly, Michael Jackson`s purported paintings of naked boys, whitening creams, sex toys, and other stuff like sealed documents from his past molestation charges. This could get really, really ugly.

GRACE: Joining us tonight, Diane Dimond, investigative reporter and author, expert on the Jackson case, "Be Careful Who You Love: Inside the Michael Jackson Case." Let`s take a look at Diane Dimond going in the storage facility and looking at all of this stuff that is now going on public auction.

Diane, explain to us how you ended up there inside the storage facility?

DIANE DIMOND, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, it`s down in Asbury Park, New Jersey, Nancy. And I got a source who told me about all of this memorabilia in a big warehouse that was about the size of like a half of a Costco.

And I spent two days, the better part of two days going through it. I found tubes of bleaching cream. My male producer was shown some sex toys. The man who owned all this stuff -- he was a gentleman. He was an old- fashioned kind of guy, and he said, "I can`t show you everything, but I`ll show it to your male producer."

I have to tell you, Nancy. I never saw any pictures of boys in an unclothed position, not at all. I did see a lot of artwork of Michael Jackson`s, some of it dating to 1994, right after those first allegations came out, sketches of young boys, sketches of Charlie Chaplain. There were report cards of Janet Jackson. I saw her diaries. I saw the costumes. I saw the costume trunks, even saw some old underwear of Michael Jackson`s in a costume trunk. I don`t know if this man in Las Vegas is bluffing. He may have some pictures that Michael Jackson drew or took of naked, young boys, but I have to tell you, I never saw them.

GRACE: Take a listen to this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is interesting. In here, it`s kind of crazy stuff in here. Here`s some little socks. I don`t think Michael`s could fit in there, little sparkly socks. There`s a watchtower.

DIMOND: These Jehovah`s witness newspapers?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

This is a chemical compound, and it says skin bleaching agent.

DIMOND: Skin bleaching agent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s what it says.

DIMOND: But Michael Jackson...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Prescription compound, and I`m not saying it`s Michael Jackson`s. I`m just saying it was found in his wardrobe trunk, which is this wardrobe trunk.

DIMOND: Two tubes of it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Two tubes.

DIMOND: And it clearly says skin bleaching agent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Correct.

DIMOND: And it`s used.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is used.

DIMOND: Somebody used it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Somebody used it.

DIMOND: This is his trunk.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s his trunk. See this? It`s somebody`s white briefs that were soiled right here.

DIMOND: Calvin Klein underwear.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t know whose they are, and I`m not about to find out, but they`re soiled.

DIMOND: How big are they?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t know. I don`t want to...

DIMOND: Mind if I check?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go ahead.

DIMOND: They`re a size 28.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, they`re not mine.

DIMOND: Henry, you know...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They`re not mine.

DIMOND: That might have some DNA on it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It probably does.

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GRACE: Thanks to Court TV and Diane Dimond for that, Diane inside the storage unit, all these items going on auction.

Now Jackson family attorney Brian Oxman is with us. Skin bleaching cream? Underwear? You guys are putting up a legal fight to keep that from going on the auction block?

BRIAN OXMAN, JACKSON FAMILY ATTORNEY: The most interesting thing I heard, Nancy, is what Diane had to say, is that she didn`t see these things in there. For eight years, I`ve dealt with this storage facility, and every time I deal with it, there`s something brand new that shows up, like bleaching cream, that never was there when I inspected this facility.

GRACE: We`ll be back with Jackson family attorney Brian Oxman. But now, "CNN Heroes."

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ZACH HUNTER, STUDENT: I think that the most important thing that people should know about this issue is that slavery is still going on. Many people don`t know that. Even though it`s illegal everywhere, it goes on everywhere, too.

This is a pair of shackles that they would use on modern-day slaves today. If your little brother or sister was wearing these and rolling cigarettes all day, you would want somebody to go and free them. That`s what we`re trying to do.

I`m Zach Hunter, and I`m a modern day abolitionist. I always had a strong sense of justice. You know, if I saw someone getting pushed down on the playground or something, I wanted to go help them. So I first heard about modern day slavery three years ago. You know, I was learning about Frederick Douglass, Dr. Martin Luther King, and I found out that slavery still existed. I felt like I had to do something.

If everybody in this room has benefited from slavery (INAUDIBLE) When I was 12 years old, I started Loose Change to Loosen Chains. It`s entirely student-led, and it`s about raising loose change to free slaves. Loose change that we raise goes directly to the organizations so they can actually raid the places and get the slaves out.

There`s more than $10.5 billion of loose chains in American households, so I decided to take something as underestimated as loose change and as underestimated as the teenage years, put them e together. This is a really good issue for people my age, and that`s just something that we really get dirty and do something about.

The main plan is to abolish slavery within my lifetime, and I really believe that that could happen. This Loose Change to Loosen Chains campaign really is my heart. It`s something I`m passionate about it. People my age can really change things. It`s sort of my dream for my generation.

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GRACE: Michael Jackson`s personal belongings on auction? To you, Brian Oxman, you`re the Jackson family attorney. If it`s not for real, why are you fighting it so hard? And isn`t it true you and the Jackson family had a chance to pay up in court and buy all the stuff yourself and you didn`t?

OXMAN: The reason that it`s a fight, Nancy, is it`s a misrepresentation. These things never existed in this storage locker. It originally belonged to Taj, Terrell and T.J. Jackson. The pictures of the infants who are disrobed Taj, Terrell and T.J. They`re their baby pictures. There was an offer to pay $25,000 for this. Everyone in the family said, "No way. It`s junk. It`s not worth it." And since that time, it`s been adulterated and expanded tenfold with what we think is counterfeit material.

GRACE: They didn`t want it, they didn`t want to buy it, what`s to stop this guy from selling it? You don`t have standing. The people that buy it, if it`s counterfeit, they`ve got standing to complain, not you.

OXMAN: It`s the counterfeit nature of the material. The shoes of Janet Jackson were supposed to be originals. There were never any such shoes in there. There`s no such thing as a fedora in the storage locker.

GRACE: If they buy a fake, that`s their problem, not yours. You don`t want the stuff to go on auction because it`s for real.

OXMAN: No, because the fedora is a fake. The shoes for Janet Jackson are a fake. Much of this material is just adulterated nonsense.

GRACE: Well, we`ll see about that, Brian Oxman, the Jackson family attorney.

Very quickly, let`s stop to remember Army Staff Sergeant Jay E. Martin, just 29, Baltimore, killed Iraq. An avid runner who loved the military, he dreamed of becoming a police officer in L.A. He said he was honored to go to Iraq and fight for his country. Leaving behind grieving father, Dwight Martin, four sisters, Lark, Dove, Raven, Shannon, Aunt Laurie and others, Jay Martin, American hero.

Thank you to our guests, but especially to you, for inviting us into your homes. See you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.

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