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Global Warming Takes Center Stage in Live Earth; Congressional Gridlock Ad Infinitum?; U.K. Attempted Car Bombers; British Prime Minister disallowing Words; Louisiana State Penitentiary Radio Station; Pulverizing a New iPhone
Aired July 06, 2007 - 20:00 ET
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GLENN BECK, HOST: Global warming takes center stage tonight, and new reports that two of the suspects in the U.K. bomb plot had thought about coming here.
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BECK (voice-over): Tonight: putting aside partisan politics to focus on the issues that really matter.
Congressional gridlock now at an all-time high -- can Congress ever get their act together in time to solve the issues that matter to all Americans?
Plus, in search of the missing -- I will bring you the amazing story of one man who turned personal tragedy into a call to help others in need.
And iPhone backlash -- meet a computer repairman who wanted to see how his new iPhone worked. He got more than he bargained for.
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BECK: Hello, America. I'm Glenn Beck, from Headline News, filling in tonight for Paula Zahn.
Let me tell you a story. It's that happened back in the 1800s. The U.S. government, with the best of intentions, built a dam on a lake in South Fork. It's a small town in central Pennsylvania.
Unfortunately, the government never anticipated the changes, nor could they anticipate the changes, that would eventually take place in the area around the dam. Over the years, the level of the lake rose. A resort was built. Roads were built all around it. And the dam itself was sold to private investors.
Well, 1889, dam bursts -- 20 million tons of water roar downstream and flooded Johnstown, destroying most of the city, and killing over 2,200 people. What started out as a noble idea to solve a problem ended up in a disaster.
Why do I tell you this story? Well, this week, Al Gore's Live Earth concerts take center stage. Let's just try to remember some of the lessons from Johnstown. Recognizing that there is a problem is one thing. Fixing it the right way is entirely different. I think we all agree that the Earth has warmed, 0.7 degrees Celsius in the last 100 years, to be exact. Now, who's causing it? What's causing it? Can we recklessly dive into a solution, until we completely understand why it's warm? Is this natural? More importantly, what can man actually do about it?
The people who want to take drastic measures to fight climate change likely have the best of intentions, just like the builders of the dam did. But, until we know how our actions today are going to affect the people in the decades ahead, let's keep the bad ideas confined to Kelly Clarkson, and Kanye West, and Roger Waters, all appearing on the same stage. Can we?
Joining me now is Chris Horner. He's a senior fellow with the Competitive Enterprise Institute and author of "The Politically Incorrect Guide To Global Warming."
Chris, Bob Geldof doesn't even like this concert. And look at the people who are involved in this. You have the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who said -- quote -- "Have you ever seen a mother polar bear drowning while trying to feed her cubs? It's too sad to ignore."
CHRIS HORNER, AUTHOR, "THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT GUIDE TO GLOBAL WARMING": My suggestion is, he has not, because the Latin name for the polar bear is Ursus maritimus.
Now, I will leave it to the Latin scholars out there whether that has anything to do with the word maritime and swimming. But they are among the world's strongest swimmers, which is why, in his movie, Al Gore uses an animated drowning polar bear. It's a serious issue requiring serious study.
The U.S. taxpayer spends $5 billion a year on it. Unfortunately, I suppose -- fortunately, from my perspective, and given the alarmism that we're hearing -- an Ipsos MORI poll released -- done for BBC, released this week, you may have seen showed that 56 percent of the public believed that this is an overhyped agenda item driven by people with an axe to grind, placing this, in terms of gravity, behind graffiti and sidewalk dog poop.
And I suggest that it is concerts, energy-slurping, traffic-jam- and pollution-creating, pay-attention-to-me concerts, like you're going to see tomorrow that may contribute strongly to the public's belief that this is, in fact, an overhyped item.
BECK: Yes. There was an article in "The New York Times" just last week that said many serious environmentalists are starting to say, wait a minute. This is all just about consumption. This is all about money.
Even -- I saw a new study out today that, people who drive a Prius, the number-one reason why people drive a Prius, all the way down -- I think it was fourth or fifth was that it was efficient. The number-one reason was because -- quote -- "It says something about me."
I mean, we have -- we're so narcissistic, we have made this just about us just appearing to be somebody that cares.
HORNER: If you read Al Gore's first book, you have to understand that modern environmentalism -- and I'm not talking about conservationism and actually environmentalism -- is a combination of baby boomer narcissism and New Age mysticism.
That's what we're talking about. And that is why this perfectly personifies the catastrophic manmade global warming alarmism. Al Gore calls for a World War II-style commitment, and apparently thinks World War II was a battle of the bands.
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HORNER: What in the world does this have to do with telling the rest of the world to massively reduce consumption?
BECK: And I have to tell you, some of the bands -- you have Kanye West, who is a guy who said in the last concert that Bush hates black people. He also said -- in Live 8 in 2005, he said, manmade disease has been placed in African communities by the American government.
He's basically saying that the American government introduced AIDS. You have Akon, who was dropped by, I think it was Verizon and Gwen Stefani after darn near raping a girl on stage. I mean, that's at least what it looked like.
These are the best that you could get? How -- what is happening?
HORNER: Here's what happened.
If you go to the Arctic Monkeys, who I turn to for sage advice on this, they responded in an interview in France the other day, it would seem rather pompous for us 21-year-olds who bang a drum, essentially, to -- who use -- who guzzle energy, that the quantities of which would run -- fuel 10 homes, who fly around the world on jet airplanes, to get up on the world and tell people, we know the world is coming to an end from massive energy consumption, and the rest of you need to cut it out.
I think those are the messengers, if you need to listen to the artistic community, to listen to regarding catastrophic manmade global warming. But, again, we spend $5 billion every year studying this in the U.S., taxpayers alone. And that's the same amount we send to the National Cancer Institutes -- out of priority.
BECK: Chris, thanks a lot.
Coming up: Even the people on the left are just screaming that Live Earth is a bad idea. PETA, the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, is angry that they will be serving meat at the concerts. And, believe it or not, I agree with PETA. PETA and the U.N. says the meat industry produces massive quantities of greenhouse gases, so selling meat at the concerts to benefit the environment is like selling cigarettes at a cancer fund-raiser.
Joining me now is Bruce Friedrich. He is the vice president of campaigns for PETA.
I have to tell you, Bruce, you and I really don't agree on very much. I don't like the campaigns in PETA, and I think you guys get a little out of control. However, I have got to call a spade a spade. When you're right, you're right.
The U.N. study says that the -- that animals actually cause more greenhouse gases than anything you can do with an SUV, and you should be a vegan. And, yet, somehow or another, we're not hearing that message.
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BRUCE FRIEDRICH, VICE PRESIDENT FOR CAMPAIGNS, PEOPLE FOR THE ETHICAL TREATMENT OF ANIMALS: I think, Glenn, that you and I might have more in common, if we were able to sit down over a beer and talk about our various philosophies.
BECK: Well, see, I don't drink.
FRIEDRICH: But...
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FRIEDRICH: OK. So maybe not.
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BECK: All right.
FRIEDRICH: But, seriously, the United Nations, as you just said, they say that the number-one cause of greenhouse gases is raising chickens and pigs and other animals for food.
We're chopping down the Amazon rain forest. Last year, Greenpeace unveiled a massive banner in the Amazon. It said, "KFC, Amazon Criminal," because they're chopping down the rain forest to grow soy to feed to chickens and pigs and other farmed animals.
Any issue that you care about, environmentally, according to the scientists, from the smallest issue to the largest issue, funneling crops through animals, in order to eat animals, is one of the top three causes. And, with green -- with global warming, it's the number-one cause of global warming.
BECK: So...
FRIEDRICH: So, like you said, if you're serving meat at these massive concerts, this is the easiest thing you can do. Make the concerts vegetarian, since this is the number-one cause of global warming. BECK: So why, Bruce -- first of all, is Al Gore a vegan?
FRIEDRICH: No, I don't think that he is. And he doesn't address it in his movie either. And...
BECK: So, why? That leads you to believe that -- and I'm not saying this is true, but it leads you to believe that this is bogus, that he doesn't believe it, because this is the easiest thing for you to do.
FRIEDRICH: Yes. It's very hard to imagine.
Anybody who says buy a Prius, or change your light bulbs, or whatever else, for the environment, and they continue to munch down on chicken nuggets and hot dogs and burgers, which all of the scientists agree, from the U.N., to the University of Chicago, to the University of Bristol in the U.K., all of them agree that growing crops to feed to animals, to raise animals, so that we can eat the animals, is causing water pollution , and soil depletion, and air pollution, and greenhouse gases.
I mean, it just makes no sense to grow all of these crops to feed it to animals to raise animals to eat them.
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FRIEDRICH: Environmentalists should not be contributing to these sorts of environmental problems.
BECK: So, then, why are they not touting this? Why are they not saying it? Have you gone to Al Gore and his people and said, why aren't you doing this? What is their response?
FRIEDRICH: Yes. We have gone to Al Gore. Many other people have gone to Al Gore. It's tough to understand.
Like you said, I don't want to cast doubt on his motivation or the motivation of environmental groups who send out a fund-raiser saying 20 things you can do to save the environment, and the number- one contributor to environmental problems, including global warming, isn't even listed on the -- isn't even on the agenda, I will leave it to your viewers to decide how that can be.
BECK: I have got to tell you, Glenn Beck and PETA, with Bruce Friedrich, strange bedfellows, but...
FRIEDRICH: Hey, Glenn?
BECK: ... got to do the truth wherever you find it.
Yes, Bruce?
FRIEDRICH: Let me just toss out, for people who want more information on this issue, please check out our Web site. It's just PETA.org...
BECK: OK.
FRIEDRICH: ... PETA.org, and give it a little bit of thought.
BECK: You got it.
FRIEDRICH: If you care about the environment, don't pay people to pollute it.
BECK: OK. You got it. Thanks, Bruce.
Coming up: What do we have after seven months of Democratic leadership in Congress? Oh, I don't know, maybe the worst case of gridlock ever.
Also, tonight's "Independent Thinker," he turned his own personal tragedy into a commitment to find missing people.
And the U.S. connection in the British car bomb plot -- did the two suspects have plans to come here to America?
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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Tom Foreman. Glenn Beck continues in just a moment -- first, a look at what's making news right now.
An Iraqi doctor is the first person to be charged in connection with the failed car bombings in London and Glasgow. Bilal Abdulla will appear in a British court tomorrow. He was arrested at Glasgow Airport after a car packed with explosives rammed into a terminal and burst into flames.
The FBI is investigating a terror threat against Goldman Sachs. In letters sent to 20 U.S. newspapers, the investment bank is targeted with the words -- quote -- "Hundreds will die. We are inside. You cannot stop us."
The AK-47, the Kalashnikov, is 60 years old today, a favorite weapon of the insurgents in Iraq. Mikhail Kalashnikov designed it in 1947. Since then, more than 100 million have been produced, making it the world's most popular assault rifle.
And, starting this weekend, more Burger Kings will start using trans fat-free cooking oil. The fast food chain expects all of its U.S. restaurants to be using the oil by the end of 2008 -- a lot of potatoes finding a new way to be fried.
That's a look at what's happening.
"We the People" with Glenn Beck continues right now.
BECK: Welcome back to "We the People." My name is Glenn Beck.
In case you don't know who I am, I'm a conservative. And, last year, I thought many conservatives felt disenfranchised by the Republican Party, the people we gave our vote to. And, so, we helped them -- you know, usher them out the door, along with a lot of good Democrats.
Well, now it's the Democratic turn. Now we both think our parties stink on ice. Old-fashioned political gridlock is standing right in the way of the people's business.
And we have a report now from Lisa Goddard.
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LISA GODDARD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Just seven months ago, Democrats were flush with victory and promises.
REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Today, we have made history.
GODDARD: But now...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The motion is not agreed to.
GODDARD: ... stark pledges of change have become a cloudy, more familiar Washington game. Congress has passed a few major bills, a minimum wage increase, some key spending measures, and a stem cell research bill, which the president promptly vetoed.
But here's what hasn't happened: immigration, lobbying reform, health care reform, and something no one even mentions, fixing the ailing Social Security system.
(on camera): All four of those issues are among the top concerns for voters, but, right now, all four are in limbo, at best. Of course, there's one other major issue. And that's where the cannon wheels of this Congress have hit the mud.
NORMAN ORNSTEIN, AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE: Let's face it. Iraq is the eight-million-pound gorilla in the room.
GODDARD (voice-over): Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute sees this Congress as fairly typical. The problem, Democrats promised something different, and they got stuck.
ORNSTEIN: It took the Democrats running Congress so long to figure out that they really had no way to get us out of Iraq, that it pretty much mucked up the works for a lot of the other things they wanted to do.
GODDARD: Approval ratings are dropping. Democrats in Congress were at 51 percent in January, and they have slid to 42 percent now. Meantime, grandstanding and finger-pointing are on the rise.
SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), MINORITY LEADER: The problem continues to be the Democrats' effort to block a proposal.
SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV), MAJORITY LEADER: Senate Republicans, including many who are now expressing concern about the lack of a debate, blocked our efforts. GODDARD: Even so, just last week, the parties did agree on something, a pay raise. The House approved a cost-of-living boost of $4,400 for each member, bringing their salaries to almost $170,000.
ORNSTEIN: To the American people, it's just another sign of a Congress that isn't focusing on the things that matter to them.
GODDARD: Congress does have a numbers problem. With a nearly split Senate, bills can get snagged on a pin. But experts say there's also an internal fight between Democrats who want deeper reform and others who think change mostly means that they're now the ones in charge.
Lisa Goddard, CNN, Capitol Hill.
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BECK: Jonathan Allen knows about congressional gridlock all too well. He's a reporter for "The Congressional Quarterly."
Jonathan, I'm so sick of hearing that the president is a lame- duck president. Congress has lower approval ratings than the president does. They're both lame ducks.
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JONATHAN ALLEN, "THE CONGRESSIONAL QUARTERLY": Well, the difference between Congress and the president, of course, is that the president won't be on the ballot in 2008, so he has a lot less to lose right now.
BECK: But, I mean -- but they can't, neither of them -- I mean, I keep hearing one side blame the other. The blame is one giant blanket. And we can't even get security done for the people.
Why is it they can't break through and secure the borders? I'm not talking about a comprehensive plan. I'm just saying, let's make sure that terrorists aren't coming across the border. Let's just -- let's just seal the border, put the troops there, build the wall. Why can't they get that done?
ALLEN: I think the problem is that you need to have 60 votes in the Senate to do anything. And, if you tried to move a border bill through the Senate right now, just a border bill, that you might have trouble getting those 60 votes, because there are Democrats who say they want to see the rest of the immigration, what they would consider to be the comprehensive solution, go along with it.
Otherwise, if the border goes first, they have no confidence that the other two pieces come along.
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BECK: When did they stop listening to us? Because the American people are very, very clear on this, that we don't trust the Congress and the White House to actually secure our border. We have done this two times before, where we have had the comprehensive package, and they never secure it. So, when did they stop listening to us?
ALLEN: Well, Glenn, I think the thing is, for the politicians, it's hard to tell exactly what it is that everybody wants. I mean, certainly, there's an interest in getting something done on immigration.
But, if you go back and talk to your constituents, depending on who you are and where you come from in the country, they're telling you different things. And I think that's what you see here on immigration. I mean, from your perspective, or at least from a lot of conservatives' perspective, inaction on that Senate bill was probably a good thing, not a bad thing.
BECK: Well, I -- I wouldn't mind if they all took sleeping medicines and took night-night for a while.
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BECK: The less they do in Washington, the happier I am.
ALLEN: I think the founding fathers intended for it to be difficult to pass laws.
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BECK: Yes. I think we should make it more tough.
Is this Congress worse now than the last Congress?
ALLEN: Well, I can't get into a better-or-worse judgment.
But I will say this. We're only six or seven -- six months, I guess, into this Congress, so they have a year-and-a-half to get better or worse, to get some things done, or to really foul it up. And I think only time will tell.
BECK: Are we already in the period now, because we're starting this election -- I don't know how long we have to have to decide who our president is going to be. My gosh, I want to hang myself now, already, in this cycle.
Are we in the place now where nothing can or will happen because we're looking at a presidential campaign, so, I mean, gridlock here until the new president gets in?
ALLEN: Two things, Glenn. I would urge you to call a hot line if you're feeling...
BECK: Suicidal?
ALLEN: ... feeling suicidal.
(LAUGHTER) BECK: Yes. Yes.
ALLEN: But, to answer your question, yes, I think there's a small window for Democrats to get done what they want to get done. By January of next year, it's too late. Maybe even by the end of this year, it's too late.
The presidential politics take over, and there's too much risk for each side in getting major legislation accomplished.
BECK: America, I'm just begging you. Please, once the campaign ads -- please, let's not start hating each other again. We're all good Americans, left and right, Democrat and Republican. We are just decent people. We are the people that we were, we found out we were, on 9/11 and 9/12. Let's just remember that and let them -- stop them from dividing us.
Jonathan, thanks a lot.
Coming up: stories of missing children grab our attention like nothing else. In a minute, you're going to meet a man who knows the pain firsthand, and how he's helping others, so they don't suffer like he did. That's tonight's "Independent Thinker."
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BECK: Welcome back.
I want to introduce you to tonight's "Independent Thinker."
They say that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I want to introduce you to Tim Miller. He's suffered incredible hardships over the course of his life. But, instead of using that as an excuse, he has channeled this awful experience into something that is having significant impact on people's lives.
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BECK (voice-over): It's a blazing day in Houston, Texas, and Tim Miller is hot on the trail of a missing person.
TIM MILLER, FOUNDER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: A busy day in Texas.
BECK: He and his crew are looking for the body of Gloria Ryan, who police suspect was murdered by her own son.
MILLER: She's wrapped in a blanket.
BECK: They think he dumped her body here on the outskirts of the city, somewhere off the highway.
MILLER: Give me that right there.
BECK: Tim has set up a makeshift headquarters at a nearby Harley shop, and gathered the local media to help get the word out. MILLER: There's one thing worse than having a murdered loved one; that's knowing that they're dead out there some place and never being able to say good-bye.
BECK: Tim Miller is the founder and director of Texas EquuSearch, a nonprofit organization devoted to finding missing people, dead or alive.
He's weathered, wiry, and with a cell phone constantly at his ear. Using four-wheelers, horses, trucks, helicopters, any way he can, Tim hunts for the missing. And he is relentless.
MILLER: The best thing that can ever happen is, we find that missing person alive, and -- and bring them home. And we have done that hundreds of times.
BECK: It's not a glamorous job. He works around the clock, getting by on donations, sometimes barely making ends meet. But he walks on. He keeps searching, because he has to.
You see, Tim made a promise to God and to his daughter Laura.
MILLER: Yes, this is where Laura's body was found.
BECK: In 1984, Laura Miller was just 16 years old when she went missing.
MILLER: For that 17 months, every time my phone would ring or somebody would knock on my door, I would literally get heart palpitations, thinking she was coming home.
BECK: But Laura didn't come home. And, in the year-and-a-half before they found her body, Tim lived in a quiet desperation, begging the police to search for her and try just a little harder.
MILLER: You know, I kind of beat my own self up, because I remember, when I reported Laura missing, that I told them about this area out here where another young girl had been found. Her body was found five months before Laura disappeared.
BECK: But police brushed it off, and told Tim to butt out. It was a group of kids that finally stumbled onto Laura's body, along with the remains of another girl.
MILLER: I miss her every single day. I love her. There's so many things I wanted to do with her that I didn't do.
MILLER: Come on, guys. Come on.
BECK: But here at his ranch, with the horses, Tim looks the most at peace. It's here that he reflects back and tries to put life in perspective.
MILLER: I come out here in my barn, and I start thinking about all the cases that we have worked. BECK: He can't forget all the people still missing and their families experiencing the same quiet desperation he once felt, like Dave and Beth Holloway, whose daughter Natalee went missing in Aruba. Tim and his team spent 73 days combing the beaches, looking just to bring Natalee home.
Wherever Tim and his team are needed, he goes: to Sri Lanka after the tsunami in 2004; and to New Orleans after the ravages of Katrina.
The people who volunteer with Tim come from all walks of life, and many are there because Tim once helped them find a loved one.
For Philip Yates (ph), he does it because he believes in EquuSearch. He took off from work to help find Gloria's body.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's one of the best things I have ever done in my life. I just feel good about doing it. I wish I had started a long time ago.
BECK: Philip and Tim and the whole team search for Gloria's body well into the night. And , the next day, after Tim finished his interview with us, he went out looking again. This time, he found her. He brought her body back home to her family, just as he promised.
MILLER: I know what the families are going through. I have, unfortunately, been there. This is not a career I would have chosen, by any means.
BECK: For Tim, it's just one more family that he's helped in a list of many, and one step closer to his ultimate promise to Laura.
MILLER: This place is OK now. It didn't used to be.
BECK: He's come to peace with Laura's death, because he's now able to bring that same peace to so many other families.
MILLER: Well, her death wasn't in vain. It really wasn't.
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BECK: Gloria's son is in jail on murder charges, awaiting trial.
If you would like to learn more about Tim's organization, or you want to make a donation, visit his Web site at EquuSearch.org.
Now, coming up: Were two of the suspects in the British bomb plot trying to come here to the U.S.? We're going to have the latest on the American connection in the case.
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BECK: Welcome back to WE THE PEOPLE. I'm Glenn Beck from HEADLINE NEWS in for Paula Zahn, who's taking a few days off.
Tonight, here's what we know. We know two suspects in that botched car bombing in Great Britain had considered coming to the United States. It has been almost a week now since a Jeep full of explosives slammed into that Glasgow airport entrance. That happened a day after two car bombs were found in London before they could explode. The British quickly rounded up all eight suspects, all of them healthcare workers. One of the eight is a doctor from Jordan, Mohammed Asha.
Tonight the FBI says he and another suspect, they haven't named yet, contacted a clearing house for foreign doctors here in the U.S. They wanted information about coming to work here. If you're like me, you're asking yourself, why is there a clearing house for foreign doctors who want to work in the U.S.? Turns out we desperately need them. We have more now from Jill Dougherty.
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JILL DAUGHERTY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): According to the FBI, two suspects in the British car bombings looked into the possibility of working as doctors in the United States. Contacting the Philadelphia based Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates. Apparently, however, they did not take the test for med school graduates and never came to the U.S.
Muslim physicians in the United States, meanwhile, are condemning the U.K. attacks.
DR ASMA MOBIN-UDDIN, CONCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS: I actually was shocked to hear about the plot. I was angry. I was -- I really felt a sick feeling inside that physicians, people from my own profession, could be guilty -- suspected of being guilty of such heinous acts. I really couldn't believe it.
DAUGHERTY: The number of foreign-born doctors in the U.S. is growing because the country needs them.
(on camera): The United States has a shortage of medical personnel. And about a quarter offual physicians working in the United States are international medical graduates, according to the American Medical Association.
(voice-over): In order to work in the U.S., foreign medical professionals must have an H-1B Visa which is meant for highly skilled professionals. The Department of Homeland Security says doctors get the same kind of screening that a computer specialist or lawyer would, including fingerprinting and a face-to-face interview at the U.S. embassy in their home country.
Their names are run through what's called the Interagency Border Inspection System, cross checking a number of law enforcement and security databases. If they get a visa, they're checked by Customs and Border Protection and fingerprinted again as they enter the U.S. Homeland Security says it is not planning any changes to H-1B Visa regulations at this time.
Dr. Khalique Zahir of the Islamic Medical Association of North America agrees the checks are thorough. DR KHALIQUE ZAHIR, ISLAMIC MED ASSN OF N AMERICA: It's difficult already for foreign doctors to emigrate here and get the training that they need. It's significantly harder since 9/11. Other than the backgrounds that they do, I don't know what more needs to be done.
DAUGHERTY: Dr. Zahir says the U.K. attack should not reflect on Muslim physicians in the U.S. Terrorism is contrary to Islam, he says, and contrary to Islamic medical ethics.
Jill Dougherty, CNN, Washington.
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BECK: Joining me now is Steve Emerson, investigative director of the investigative project on terrorism, the author of "Jihad Incorporated: A Guide to Militant Islam in the U.S."
Steve, you've been on top of this way before 9/11 and so many people are surprised at this doctor ring. But you say that this is what happens. They come in groups, is that right?
STEVE EMERSON, AUTHOR: They come in clusters and they sort of move in clusters. It's not your typical recruitment of a domino chain reaction, but, rather, they move as part of a team. And that's what is believed to have happened here.
BECK: You know, Steve, I can't help -- and steer me in the right course here. I can't help but think this is kind of, in a way, teaching us a lesson about the border and illegal immigrants in a way. We've got to bring the people in, know who they are, need their skills. But then melt them into our society. It's not what Great Britain is doing. They don't melt in over in Great Britain and so they are disenfranchised.
EMERSON: Yeah. But the problem here is that unlike -- let's just say this. Melting in is dependent upon the willingness of the person to melt in. If they are tuned out to becoming a member of that society and if their allegiance is to the larger Muslim umo (ph) or community and start hating their society, there's nothing you can do, whether it's Britain or the U.S. to make them loyal.
BECK: How close to you think we are to seeing this happen in the United States?
EMERSON: I think we're much closer now than we've ever been since 9/11 because I think since 9/11 we've seen the FBI be very successful in stopping attacks like Ft. Dix and the JFK plot. But we see the frequency of those plots occur much more greater than ever before.
BECK: Condoleezza rice said a few months back about birth pangs in the Middle East. I think that's exactly what we're going through. Gordon Brown said over in Great Britain, he said they no longer want the government to use the words Muslim and terrorists in the same sentence, Jihad, Islamic or fundamentalists. What exactly do we call these people? EMERSON: Oh, we just call them bad people. I mean, that's like saying in World War II we wouldn't call them Nazis, we'd just call them bad people. That's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. It's like waving a white flag and saying we surrender. If we can't identify and name the enemy as who they are, then we can basically surrender the fight because we've lost. It's impossible to delegitimize the enemy if you can't identify them.
BECK: Steve, you've been working on a breaking story and we'll talk to you on HEADLINE NEWS next week. Thank you very much for joining us, tonight.
EMERSON: You're welcome.
BECK: First let me go to Zuhdi Jasser. Zuhdi is a former U.S. Navy lieutenant commander and the chairman of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy.
Zuhdi, let me ask you the same question that I just asked Steve. And that is Gordon Brown says no use of Muslim and terrorists, jihad, Islamic or fundamentalist in any statement coming out of his new government. What would you call them, you're a Muslim? What would you call these guys?
DR ZHUDI JASSER, AMERICAN ISLAMIC FORUM FOR DEMOCRACY: They are, you know, it's between them and god what they call themselves and they call themselves Muslim. And the only way we're going to get traction in the anti-Islamism movement to fight this global movement for a caliphate or whatever they're seeking against secular democracies is call them Muslim and give us room to have the debate in the Muslim community. If we don't call them Muslins, we might as well, as Steve said, give up and not debate them and continue to live in platitudes.
BECK: For anybody who doesn't know what a caliphate is, that is a global Islamic state and it is a spooky -- I mean, it's everybody is wearing a burqa.
Let me ask you this. I asked you to look in an ad that was in the paper, "Muslims United." This is over in Great Britain, in the name of god most beneficent, "Muslims United." "The Muslim communities across Britain in condemning the attempted bombings in London and Glasgow." This seems like a pretty good ad coming in from the Muslim community saying, look, it's not us. What did you think?
JASSER: Well, I want to believe their heart's in the right place. And you know, we've seen so many of these. We saw them from CARE and others in America, that nod (ph) in our name, petitions. But, OK they condemn the means, what about the ends? This is not an action we're fighting, we're fighting individuals. When they start putting ads saying Muslims against al Qaeda, Muslims against Islamism, Muslims against the califate and the transnational movement, then I'll start to believe them. Right now they're condemning the means and you know, that gives them a...
BECK: So, how do you know, Zuhdi -- as a -- I mean, I don't hate Muslims by any stretch of the imagination and I know it's maybe 10 percent of the Islamic world, but that's an army of 100 million that are -- that want this califate. How do people know the difference? When you see these organizations and they stand up and say, we're the good guys, how do you know?
JASSER: Just like how we knew who was on our side in the Cold War and World War I and World War II, we knew whether they stood for America's ideology or Western secular free universal religious freedom ideology or not. and that's what we need to do here. There's an organization call Hizbit Harer (ph) that they recruited some of these doctors from. And all we need to do is ask these Muslim organizations that have filled out this ad, what do you think about this califate, what do you any about Hizbit Harer (ph)? Are you with them or against them? Because if they are with them, they are certainly are going to be supporting the end of the terrorist. Even the organization condemned the means which is the terrorist actions in London and Glasgow, but what are they doing about the ideology? If they're not going to use the same passage in their ad to say we are anti-jihad, anti-al Qaeda, just may as well not say anything.
BECK: Zuhdi Jasser, a Muslim voice that America needs to hear more often. Thank you very much.
JASSER: Then you Glenn.
BECK: Coming up, every broadcaster's dream, the true captive audience. A look inside the only prison in the U.S. with its own radio station.
And you have to see this to believe it. After all of the endless hype about the iPhone, why would anyone destroy it with a hammer?
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BECK: All this week, we've been showing you what people around the world are doing to make their communities and this country better for all of us. Now, I want to take you down to Louisiana. This is a unique radio station where the deejays are an amazing collection of characters who know a little bit about lifting spirits in a place where there's very little hope.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you so much for tuning in to KLSP 91.7.
BECK (voice-over): It's typical day at KLSP 91.7 fm, a radio station that caters almost exclusively to an audience of the highly coveted 18 to 45-year-old male demo.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Running really good, here. I think they're really good.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: KLSP radio, the station that kicks behind the bricks.
My audience range from athletes to just average guys who just like to lay back in the dorms. BECK: As general manager of KLSP radio, Burl Cain knows his audience better than just about anybody.
WARDEN BURL CAIN, ANGOLA STATE PENITENTIARY: We have murder rapists, armed robbers, habitual felon's average sentence is about 88 years and there's 3,200 of those with life sentences.
BECK: Did I mention that Burl Cain is also the warden? KLSP broadcasts live from the notorious Louisiana State Penitentiary in Angola, making this the only prison in the country with its very own radio station.
Now, as far as business models go, KLSP seems like it can't miss. There's a captive audience, more than 5,000 listeners, with no competition from any of those morning zoos or those annoying talk radio stations. In fact, here it's pretty much just Christian-themed programming, with a wide variety of music. Just no gangster rap, heavy metal, or sleepy elevator music.
CAIN: The kind of music we play reflects our culture, has a very calming effect on them.
DJ SHAQ, PRISONER: We'll do some jazz. We'll do some soft R&B. We'll do some country, some rock. But primarily, throughout the week, continuously, you going to get gospel -- 91.7 Angola, the incarceration station.
BECK: As KLSP's program manager, it's up to DJ Shaq to spread the Warden Cain's gospel.
SHAQ: Honestly, in terms of being a big gospel music fan, I wasn't.
CAIN: Well, it grows on you, you know. Even got the rap gospel, and they play that. And that's cool. I like that.
BECK: Most of the deejays here are convicted murders, making them uniquely qualified to preach to these inmates.
DJ RR, PRISONER: I can play that song for that guy and give him that comfort zone or relaxed state of mind and get away from all the pressures of the mental weight of this prison.
BECK: And with song requests and shout-outs, KLSP shamelessly caters to its most loyal listeners, the men on death row.
SHAQ: We don't call it death row here.
BECK: Oh, I'm sorry. Life row.
SHAQ: Guys on life row are some of the most faithful listeners to the radio station. I mean, a number of them any given day, I might get anywhere from five or six letters. What can I play for you?
BECK: And just like their fellow deejays on the outside, when it comes to payday, radio guys never seem to get the respect they deserve.
SHAQ: It's one of the more higher paying jocks at 20 cents an hour, probably the highest pay you can make as an inmate.
BECK: And one more thing that's no different inside these walls. No matter how much you try, you can never please everybody.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I like other stations better, you know. More rap, you know. It's just -- it's just something that's going to pull people into it. But rap is really on the incline.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They say music really changes your moves. And they play just the type right of music to put you in the right type of mood.
SHAQ: On Saturdays I have a slow jam show. There are a number of songs I've scrapped from my repertoire simply because of the content. It could be a beautiful love song, but by nature listen to it, you're in an all-male maximum security prison, and so I don't want to move anybody in the way of, you know, something negative.
In terms of music calming the wrath of an angry beast, I don't know how true that is. But I do know that music here in Angola has proved to be a mechanism that actually works.
CAIN: That's going to be cool and we're just going to keep rocking and rolling.
SHAQ: God bless you and keep you. Thank you for tuning into KLSP 91.7, Angola. The next song on air is "I'm so satisfied."
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BECK: The radio station has been so successful, the warden is now thinking about building a small television studio at prison. I mean, why not?
Coming up, what generates almost half a million hits on YouTube. Try a guy pulverizing who's pulverizing a brand new iPhone with a hammer.
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BECK: Well, welcome back to WE THE PEOPLE tonight the people versus the iPhone. It's been a week now since iPhones have been on the market. Last Friday thousands of people were ling up for hours to get their hands on one. And now I saw a video on YouTube that about 400,000 people have watched. Why would anyone want to do this to the brand new iPhone? Well, Rob V. Burr can tell us. He's the guy who helped hammer the iPhone to pieces. He also shot that videotape -- Rob.
Hi, how are you doing?
BECK: Very good. Are you surprised how many people are watching this video? ROB V BURR, SMASHED IPHONE: Very surprised, to say the least. I put it up just thinking just a few people that I was stringing for might be interested in looking at it. The next thing you know, I wake up the next day and thousands of hits already.
BECK: Yeah, 400,000 people have seen it and they've left you some messages. Just take a clip of some of them.
BURR: Oh, joy.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Like that nimrod (ph), break open a brand new iPhone to see what's inside, of course.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You could have just gone home, sat -- waited like one or two hours and then got to see some videos of other people smashing their phones.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dear Mr. Smash, the man who smashed the iPhone, I think you are incredibly stupid.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Smacking the iPhone, that's wrong. What are you doing? You spent $600, just smacking it on YouTube.
BURR: Oh, man.
BECK: Mr. Smash. How do you respond? Why did you do it?
BURR: Well, specifically I videotaped it here. And it was another patron standing in line that actually smashed it. We wanted to get a look inside to see who had made the chips, but Apple did a really good job...
BECK: Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Hang on just a second.
BURR: Sorry.
BECK: You're telling me the Apple store is like in a neighborhood. You're not standing in line for that. This is -- come on, that's a neighborhood. That's like in front of your house. That's a walkway in front of your house.
BURR: Huh?
BECK: I'm an investigative reporter. I'm seeing it right here. You're not in line at an Apple store.
BURR: No, I stood in line at the Apple store for six hours to get an Iphone. The guy standing next to me wanted to see what was inside it. He ask me if I'd opened an before, I said, yeah, I've opened my own. So, he wanted me to look at his iPhone. I tried. I tried to be gentle with it for the next half and hour, but we were under a time limit. He wanted to know who had made the chips. So he grabbed a hammer. I said: wait, wait, wait, before you smash the thing, let me videotape it. I mean, there's no going back after this.
BECK: So, why did he want the chips? Is this a stock thing? BURR: I couldn't tell you. I tried to stay out of his business.
BECK: You didn't ask?
BURR: No. Well, I just wanted to be the guy that would see the inside of the iPhone first. I mean, it was an hour and a half after the thing was even being sold on the eastern seaboard and we had already opened one up with a hammer. Granted, it was with a hammer, but we opened it up before anybody else.
BECK: Right. So, what did you learn?
BURR: Well, we learned that Apple stripped everything off of there except for a Samsung logo and Apple logo. So, still don't know who made the wi-fi card or the display, but now we know what the inside of an iPhone looks like.
BECK: Any idea why they're keeping that secret? I mean there are people that would like to know for investment...
BURR: Sure, it's Apple. Wouldn't you keep it secret, too? It's Apple. Come on, everything that makes them good is the fact that they keep everything secret.
BECK: Let me tell you something. They're as evil as Halliburton, I'm just saying.
BURR: Well, they could be but you know something, at least they're not obvious about it.
BECK: Come on, Rob. Thanks a lot.
BURR: Come on. You want to talk about come on.
BECK: Coming up on the top of the hour is LARRY KING LIVE from cleaning septic tanks to collecting road kill, Larry King is going to take you inside the world's dirtiest jobs with the host of "Dirtiest Jobs." coming up.
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BECK: Well, that's it for tonight. I'm Glenn Beck, been sitting in for Paula Zahn. And I want to thank her very much for allowing me to, well not sit here, but stand here. It's been a blast. We'll see you next week on HEADLINE NEWS. Larry King starts right now.
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