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Joey Buttafuoco`s Advice for Lindsay Lohan; Stars and Rehab
Aired July 25, 2007 - 23:00:00 ET
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BROOKE ANDERSON, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT ANCHOR: Beyonce falls on stage. We have the stunning video. And are the luxurious rehabs for the rich and famous really just a vacation? I`m Brooke Anderson in New York. TV`s most provocative entertainment show starts right now.
On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Lindsay Lohan in crisis. Tonight Lindsay claims she`s innocent. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with fast-breaking new developments about Lindsay`s latest DUI bust, what she`s saying about the cocaine the cops found in her pocket. Where`s Lindsay now? What`s really happening with her parents and what happens now?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s really on the brink of some major problems going forward.
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ANDERSON: Plus, Joey Buttafuoco right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with his personal story of battling addiction and his no-holds barred advice for Lindsay.
Tonight, startling new information about Britney Spears` magazine meltdown. Shocking details of Britney`s bizarre behavior at an interview and photo shoot. The strange, disturbing trips to the bathroom, wiping her greasy hands on expensive dresses, and then running off with thousands of dollars of stuff. Has Britney finally, totally lost it?
Tonight SHOWBIZ TONIGHT presents Britney behaving badly.
Hi there everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson in New York. A.J. Hammer has the night off. Tonight, for the very first time, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is bringing you the real story of what happened during Britney Spears` unbelievable meltdown during an interview and photo shoot for a major magazine from somebody who was there. That is coming up.
But first, Lindsay Lohan says she`s innocent. You heard right. For the first time since being busted again for a DUI and also cocaine possession, Lindsay Lohan is claiming she`s innocent. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is all over today`s late-breaking developments.
ANDERSON (voice-over): She`s possibly heading for jail.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lindsay is really in big trouble.
ANDERSON: Her film career is on life support.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s a real liability at this point.
ANDERSON: And the real troubles of this serious actress are now a TV punch line.
JOY BEHAR, "THE VIEW": It`s hard to get these alcoholics to go to AA in the first place. She thinks it`s an airline, I think, this girl.
ANDERSON: With her second DUI charge in as many months, Lindsay Lohan, once the most celebrated young star in Hollywood, is in freefall.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lindsay herself seems to realize that she`s really screwed up.
ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT brings you new details you may not know about the night Lindsay got charged with DUI and cocaine possession. And you won`t believe what Lindsay is saying about her new predicament. "Access Hollywood`s" Billy Bush told me he exchanged e-mails with Lindsay after her arrest.
BILLY BUSH, "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD": She said, yes, you know, I`m innocent. The drugs are not mine.
ANDERSON: Of course, as you can see by this unofficial SHOWBIZ TONIGHT survey, it`s not mine is the top drug excuse out there. What was Bush`s response? Stick around, in just a moment, I go one-on-one with Billy Bush to bring you the full, inside story.
Lohan`s latest DUI comes less than two weeks after she ended her long stay in rehab, a stay that was supposed to help her with the constant partying that led to her first DUI last May. In recent days she even sported an alcohol detection anklet to tout her new found sobriety.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She so publicly flaunted her ankle bracelet.
ANDERSON: This week`s "People Magazine" details Lohan`s fall from sobriety. "People`s" Galina Espinoza tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the inside details of the hours before Lindsay`s arrest.
GALINA ESPINOZA, SR. EDITOR, "PEOPLE MAGAZINE": On the night Lindsay Lohan was arrested, she was out at a party with friends. While there, she got into a fight with one of her assistants. The assistant apparently didn`t like the fact that it seemed as if Lindsay had started to party again. The two disagreed, had an argument and the assistant said, you know what? I quit.
And she called her mother to come pick her up from the party.
ANDERSON: There Lindsay reportedly got behind the wheel of an SUV. Remember, on a suspended license, and followed her assistant and her mother to this Santa Monica parking lot. The mom called the cops and the rest is Hollywood DUI history.
LT. ALEX PADILLA, SANTA MONICA POLICE: She was arrested for driving under the influence. While in the jail, officers found in her possession a small amount of cocaine.
ANDERSON: And now Lindsay`s career is in super jeopardy. "Daily Variety," the bible read by all of Hollywood, has on its front pages this shocking headline.
DADE HAYES, "DAILY VARIETY": She`s really on the brink of some major problems.
ANDERSON: Variety`s Dade Hayes tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that Lindsay`s latest arrest has thrown her future film projects into a tailspin. She is unavailable to promote her new movie, "I Know Who Killed Me." With that and all those past stories of Lohan`s unreliable on set attendance, Hayes says many Hollywood producers find that casting Lohan would be scarier than any horror movie.
HAYES: The producers who talked to us were very wary of her. We just kept hearing again and again, how do you stake your reputation and your fortune and, you know, all this money and effort on someone who really has shown herself to be unreliable in the last year or two.
ANDERSON: And now Lindsay sits with a pair of DUI cases and a cocaine possession charge hanging over her.
ESPINOZA: A friend of hers told "People Magazine" that she realizes her life is now in ruins and that she`s really upset about that.
ANDERSON: But now the big question is, is she upset enough to get serious about sobering up once and for all?
ANDERSON: As we mentioned, Lindsay e-mailed "Access Hollywood" anchor Billy Bush in her one and only comment about what happened to her. I spoke with Billy today and he told me how the whole exchange began. And he also told me that contrary to reports, she didn`t spend the night in rehab.
ANDERSON: When you reached out to Lindsay Lohan -- you sent her an e- mail -- how shocked were you when she actually responded?
BUSH: We have e-mailed back and forth, you know, several times over the course of months and years, so I didn`t know. And then last night at about 7:20 she responded to an e-mail I had sent in the morning. And she said -- I said -- e-mailed to her originally, is there anything you`d like me to get out there, because there`s so much stuff with the blogs and all this business.
And she said, yes, I`m innocent. The drugs are not mine.
ANDERSON: Let`s look at specifically what she wrote to you in that e- mail; quote, yes, I am innocent. Did not do drugs. They`re not mine. I was almost hit by my assistant Tarin`s mom. I appreciate everyone giving me my privacy."
OK, she says she`s innocent. She said the drugs were not hers. But the police said they found cocaine on her. What`s your take on all this, Billy?
BUSH: I e-mailed her back, obviously. My first thought was yours. I said, OK, got it. But, that said, why would you in your position be carrying someone else`s drugs? And there was no response to that question. Either way, all it does is change the defense. She still has some serious guilt there, and she`s going to have to face the court. But at the same time it`s as to whether she`s doing drugs and alcohol.
ANDERSON: Yes, she is facing a number of serious charges and there have been many reports that Lindsay went back into rehab yesterday after her arrest. What do you know about where she is right now?
BUSH: I know exactly where she spent the night last night and it was not in rehab. It is at the home of somebody who is very close to her out here. I know whose home it is, but I don`t know if it`s a good idea to say it. I would feel guilty.
ANDERSON: Just a friend or a family member? And is she planning on going to rehab? Do you know?
BUSH: I do believe, yes. That`s obviously -- her attorney and her parents have both addressed this as an addiction, so she will. And I think the hope is, in speaking to her mother, that she does it on the east coast, outside of this environment right now.
ANDERSON: You were on Larry King last night alongside Court TV`s Lisa Bloom, who asked Lindsay`s father, Michael Lohan, whether he felt responsible for what`s been happening to Lindsay. Let`s take a listen to what he said.
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MICHAEL LOHAN, FATHER OF LINDSAY LOHAN: Of course I do. If I didn`t, I`d be a liar. I mean, everyone around Lindsay, especially her parents, have a direct bearing on her life. And I made some really stupid choices in my life. I made some mistakes. And I can definitely identify with what she`s going through because when I was torn from my family I reacted the wrong way.
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ANDERSON: He had legal problems himself, as we know. Billy, of course, that was her father. You spoke with Lindsay`s mom, Dina as well. What did she have to say?
BUSH: I think she wishes that, you know, she had been out here. Lindsay has been living out in Los Angeles since she was 17 with a personal assistant on her own. I think she wishes that they could have done that together. I think there are obviously regrets there.
But I don`t think -- She is a little bristly in not accepting all of this blame. Everyone feels badly, and the sadness this family -- the mother and father can`t get along here. It would be nice to see them come together for her.
ANDERSON: On "Larry King Live" last night, you mentioned that maybe it would be a good idea for Lindsay to leave Hollywood, come east coast, head back to New York. Why do you think that would be a good idea?
BUSH: There`s a lot of wannabes and enablers around. For a young person in that scene -- I mean, if I was 25 doing my job out here without three kids and a wife, I`d be in trouble. I know I`d be in trouble because I love to have fun and I`m so glad I`m doing this at 35. But, you know, same situation for these young people.
The drugs are readily available. The clubs are going off. Lindsay has been in them since she`s 18. All she has around her are these people who, you know, want to enable. Hey, take the drugs. You can have them. Oh, no, you don`t have to pay for them. They`re cool. Whatever you want. She has that all around her. That`s what she`s grown up with the last four years.
Yes, she`s got to get out of here. Look at the biggest stars in Hollywood. Matt Damon lives with his wife and children down in Miami. Clooney lives abroad. Pitt is never here. None of these big guys, big stars are here. Russell Crowe lives in New Zealand. They all come back and do their work here and then they leave. They balance it out at least. If they have a home here, they balance it somewhere else.
She is here and in the club scene all the time.
ANDERSON: Yes, we certainly hope Lindsay can turn this thing around. Billy, if she responds to your follow up e-mail, hey, let us know, all right?
BUSH: I will.
ANDERSON: Thanks for coming on. Good to see you.
BUSH: Thank you.
ANDERSON: Now we want to hear from you about it. It is our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Lindsay says I`m innocent, do you believe her? Vote at CNN.com/SHOWBIZTONIGHT. Send us an e-mail, SHOWBIZTONIGHT@CNN.com. Hey, stay on top of the latest and most provocative entertainment news stories by signing up for the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsletter. It`s easy. Go to CNN.com/SHOWBIZTONIGHT. Click on newsletter and we will e-mail it to you every day.
Lindsay has been to rehab twice now. I have to wonder if maybe she`s going to the wrong one. Straight ahead, are the luxurious rehabs that the rich and famous go to just one big joke?
Plus Joey Buttafuco speaks exclusively to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. He`s in recovery for cocaine addiction and he`s all fired up about Lindsay and other young Hollywood party girls.
Britney Spears; now after hearing how she acted at a photo shoot and interview, I really think she might be losing it, poor girl. Wait until you hear what she did when we take you inside Britney`s magazine meltdown.
And Beyonce takes a spill. We were all gasping today when we saw video of Beyonce`s nasty fall during her concert in Orlando. We`ll show that video to you next.
ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show. I`m Brooke Anderson in New York. A.J. Hammer has the night off. Time now for the video that had us all gasping today. Beyonce took a nasty spill, really nasty, on stage in Orlando last night. Take a look at this video, which showed up on Youtube. During her song "Ring The Alarm," Beyonce tripped and fell headfirst down a flight of stairs on stage.
Some local news stations are reporting that afterwards Beyonce asked the audience to please not post her fall on Youtube. They apparently didn`t listen. I think it`s amazing though, how she got right up, started dancing, swinging her head around again.
And I`m not the only one. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT got this statement from Beyonce`s record label, quote, "Beyonce`s fall on stage last night was a mere spot on an otherwise sensational, flawless show. It was a case of her coat`s hem getting caught in her shoes. But Miss Knowles picked herself up without missing a beat, showing to all that she is the best."
She is quite the performer. Britney Spears` latest tumble doesn`t sound nearly as graceful as Beyonce`s. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT brings you the true story behind Britney`s unbelievable meltdown at a photo shoot and interview with "OK! Magazine," something that was supposed to rehabilitate her image, but instead has turned into a nightmare. The whole story is in the current issue of "OK! Magazine."
Joining me tonight from Hollywood is Ruth Hilton. She is deputy editor of OK!. Ruth was at the now infamous photo shoot. You know, Ruth, as I mentioned, OK was planning a comeback layout for Britney, setting the record straight on everything. At what point did it all begin to go terribly wrong and were you in disbelief?
RUTH HILTON, DEPUTY EDITOR, "OK!~ MAGAZINE": I`m still actually pretty much in disbelief and very shocked, as I think is the entire team. Everything started so solicitously. They approached us. We thought wow, this is a win-win situation. We got the photographer she wanted. We got the top makeup and styling teams that really money or fashion can buy.
And I would say there was no warning that she was suddenly going to walk off. In fact, no one even realized she had walked off until the security guard was trying to get her car. So, it felt to me anyway -- and I think to other people -- like a bolt from the blue.
ANDERSON: Really unexpected. We`ve heard a lot about the incident, Ruth, the shoot where your people say Britney stopped to eat lunch, fried chicken, and that she was wearing this expensive dress and the stylist asked her repeatedly, right, to change it or to cover it up and -- let me read what happened next. "Brit dismissively refused to take it off and after consuming her meal stood up and rubbed grease from her fingers into the front and back of the dress. It was ruined."
Ruth, do you think she was doing this maliciously or was she just oblivious?
HILTON: I wish I could say what was going on in her mind that day. I think we`re all still a bit baffled. I saw the dress and that was probably one of the most disturbing things for me of the day, was to see it scrunched in a ball just by the bed. And it wasn`t like just grease down the front, it was grease down the back.
ANDERSON: Yes, no regard for someone else`s property.
HILTON: And it was a really beautiful, pink silk dress. It`s gone and it was also going to be used on the shoot. Honestly, I`m just baffled.
ANDERSON: It`s sad. And then there is the story of her dog. We shook our head at this story. Her puppy relieving itself on a very expensive gown. Tell us what happened.
HILTON: Well, as I understand it, the puppy -- gorgeous puppy, London. We were going to put him in the shoot, actually. He did a great big poop on -- or a puppy poop anyway on a Zach Pozen (ph) gown worth over 6,000 dollars. And, I mean, in a shoot scenario what happens is you`ll have racks of clothing. There`s hundreds of outfits. And in the end you choose down to a final few.
It just seems -- I don`t understand how that could have been -- how that could have happened.
ANDERSON: Was she phased? Was she apologetic about what the dog did?
HILTON: I think the wardrobe team said can you pick it up and obviously they did. But the dress is still got poop all over it. So it`s, you know --
ANDERSON: Talk to us about the reports of the strange -- what frequent trips to the bathroom with the door open. What was going on?
HILTON: Well, this was part of the closed set. I think "OK!" tried to be really respectful. When she wanted to have her hair and makeup done, clothes, she did that. This is the stuff we`re hearing from the photo team about that -- What was going on downstairs. And who can truly know what was going on in her mind.
"OK!" adores Britney. I think we all want her to come back, to have a fantastic career. She`s an icon and we still want her to be that.
ANDERSON: I`m sure it wasn`t easy for you guys to decide to print all of what happened, but to make matters even worse, she bolted, right, with a lot of items from the shoot, clothing and jewelry. I`m reading, what, 20,000 dollars worth of stuff?
HILTON: That`s what the wardrobe team totaled up and it was, you know, very surprising. What happens on a shoot is obviously there are dresses, there`s jewelry, all that kind of thing. And, you know, normally what happens when a celebrity wants it is they come back and ask us to negotiate or the stylist to negotiate. But the stylist says they were missing and have not been returned.
ANDERSON: Oh, that is so unfortunate. Ruth Hilton, deputy editor of "OK! Magazine." Thanks so much for joining us with the story. We appreciate it.
HILTON: Thank you.
ANDERSON: You can pick up a copy of "OK! Magazine" on news stands everywhere Friday. So Britney and Lindsay have both been to rehab more than once. I have to wonder how come it isn`t working? Is it because they`re going to posh rehabs that let them leave to go shopping, even send text messages while they`re there? We`re looking into whether rehab for the rich and famous is one big joke straight ahead.
Also, Joey Buttafuco is really fired up about the young Hollywood party girls. He beat his own cocaine addiction and is here exclusively with some startling things to say about Lindsay and company.
And Kelly Ripa has a unique perspective on Lindsay`s situation. Next, what Kelly said happened to her own sister that makes her really wish Lindsay could get her act together. Stay with SHOWBIZ TONIGHT for Wednesday night. We`re coming right back.
ANDERSON: All the buzz tonight is about Lindsay Lohan, busted again. After her latest DUI arrest, some people feel sorry for her. Some say she`s on a collision course with even more disaster. Others are just fed up with Hollywood`s bad girls in general. And today on "Live with Regis and Kelly," Kelly Ripa said she has a unique perspective on Lindsay`s situation.
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KELLY RIPA, "LIVE WITH REGIS AND KELLY": It`s very difficult, you know. My sister was hit by a drunk driver and almost killed.
REGIS PHILBON, "LIVE WITH REGIS AND KELLY": Sure, it`s very serious.
RIPA: And so I would introduce her to my sister maybe so she could see, you know, the results of the physical agony that a person lives with after an accident like that.
PHILBON: Can`t drive that home sometimes to people. The addiction is so strong.
RIPA: You can`t but it`s more than -- it`s even more than that. You know, maybe that -- seeing the ramifications may not be enough, but how about wasted opportunity. I would talk to her about wasting opportunities and what a blessing it is each day just to get up in the morning and to be healthy and to waste that opportunity.
PHILBON: And to have a wonderful career like she does.
RIPA: To me it`s very sad.
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ANDERSON: I agree. It is very sad, very troubling.
So Britney and Lindsay have both been to rehab more than once. I have to wonder, how come it isn`t working? Is it because they`re going to posh rehabs that let them leave to go shopping and even send text messages while they`re there? We`re looking into whether rehab for the rich and famous is one big joke, coming up.
Also, Joey Buttafuco is really fired up about the young Hollywood party girls. He beat his own cocaine addiction, and he`s here exclusively with some startling things to say about Lindsay and company. And Lindsay gets a new outfit. I`ll tell you how they`re paying tribute -- sort of -- to Lindsay`s troubles at a wax museum. You won`t want to miss that. Stay with us.
ANDERSON: On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, why does rehab seem to fail for stars? Britney Spears in and out -- and still bizarre behavior. Lindsay Lohan in and out, twice, and now facing two possible DUIs. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT asks the controversial question, is rehab for the rich and famous a joke?
Plus, Joey Buttafuoco, the guy who had an affair with a teenager, Amy Fisher , who then shot his wife. Joey is here with his very personal story of battling addiction and exclusive must-hear advice for Lindsay.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m Brooke Anderson in New York. A.J. Hammer has the night off.
Tonight, everybody in Hollywood just shaking their heads in disbelief, wondering if Lindsay Lohan can be saved after her second shocking DUI bust. Here`s the latest -- Lindsay says she`s innocent. In an e-mail to "Access Hollywood`s" Billy Bush she also writes that the drugs found on her when she was arrested are not hers.
Also, TMZ.com reports that just before Lindsay was busted for this DUI, her lawyer was frantically trying to find her. The lawyer got a signal from Lindsay`s alcohol monitoring bracelet that Lindsay could be liquoring it up. But she couldn`t find her client in time.
I can also tell you that Lindsay`s career in real trouble. Tonight, "Variety" magazine tells us that studios are re-thinking their casting because she`s too much of a risk.
If there`s anybody who knows about addiction and rehab and living a spectacular, and sometimes messy life, in the public eye, it`s Joey Buttafuoco. Tonight a SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive -- Joey Buttafuoco speaking out about Lindsay Lohan and a whole lot more.
Joey became both famous, and infamous, in 1992 after his then-teenage lover, Amy Fisher, shot his wife, Mary Jo. Joey is now hosting a new radio show called "Let`s Talk Recovery" and Joey is with us tonight from Hollywood.
JOEY BUTTAFUOCO, HOST, LET`S TALK RECOVERY: Thank you. I really enjoy being here right now.
ANDERSON: We are happy to have you. First, I want to congratulate you on nearly two decades of sobriety. And now you have this radio show about recovery. It`s fantastic. You`re talking about your addiction, you`re helping other people going through substance abuse. What made you want to start talking about your past, Joey?
BUTTAFUOCO: Well, Hollywood was throwing all kinds of deals at me, with Amy, to do a reality show. Just to got -- just to bottle it up, real quick, it got out of hand.
That was like cocaine or alcohol or any kind of drug, and I just had to like stop. And I just had to really just question myself. Do I really want to do this at this point? Not that I wouldn`t do a show with Amy, because I would. But it has to be the right context, the right kind of a show.
I was spinning out of control with directors and producers. And we put a stop to it and I had a great opportunity to join "Let`s Talk" radio - - "Let`s Talk Recovery" radio with Brad Watson and Dennis Coder (ph). And they offered me an opportunity. And I took it. And it was the best thing I`ve done in a long time.
ANDERSON: That`s fantastic. You talk about how the money, the attention, the fame. You know, you talk about that downside. How you were spiraling out of control really quickly with all of that attention you were getting.
You`re somebody with a lot of life behind you. You`ve lived a lot. When you hear what`s happening with Lindsay Lohan -- the cocaine possession, the two DUIs. Do you get what she`s going through?
BUTTAFUOCO: Yes, I absolutely get what Lindsay`s going through -- what Paris is going through, what Britney is going through. They`re spinning out of control and it`s not going to stop or even slow down until somebody -- and I hate to say this -- somebody is going to die. Somebody is going to overdose, somebody is going to car crash, somebody is going to hurt a baby. Something is going to happen and that`s very sad, because it doesn`t need to.
ANDERSON: It`s awful to think about that but do you think that is what is going to have to happen to really grab their attention, so that they snap out of it?
BUTTAFUOCO: Recovery is a beautiful thing. And it does work, if you work it. OK? If you don`t get recovery, take it seriously, it`s death, jails, or institutions. That`s what`s in store for young Hollywood today. It`s not just the girls going crazy partying, the guys, too. There are a lot of guys out there doing it, also.
Now, very important. A lot of people may not realize this, the entourage that runs with these people, this young Hollywood, somebody is supplying the coke, the ecstasy, the designer drug, the alcohol. Somebody is making it available. It`s those dealers that they have in their life, people that are around them. Very, very poor choice of people that are around them that are supplying it. Let`s face it.
ANDERSON: Well, you know, and speaking of that. Speaking of recovery attempts, Lindsay already has two stints in rehab under her belt. As anyone can imagine, her parents are very concerned about her. On "Larry King" last night, her father, Michael, told Court TV`s Lisa Bloom that Lindsay does need to shed some baggage, which you just talked about. Listen to this.
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MICHAEL LOHAN, LINDSAY LOHAN`S FATHER: It`s said that people, places, and things have a direct bearing on our life, and it`s very true. And the people around Lindsay are just there for the wrong reasons. They enable her. They turned a blind eye to what was going on. And they`re there to make a paycheck. I don`t care if it`s the bodyguards, if it`s the -- I don`t even want to point fingers. Just people have the wrong motive and intention. And they`re just a -- their a terrible effect on Lindsay`s life.
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ANDERSON: Joey, what do you think? How important is it for Lindsay to really purge those people she`s hanging out with, the yes people. The people on the payroll who won`t tell her, no, this is a bad idea.
BUTTAFUOCO: You know, I`ve been there and done all that. Her dad is 100 percent right. Point the fingers, Mr. Lohan. Point to the one whose the problem for your daughter, because those are the people that are going to kill your daughter. Point the finger. Don`t be afraid. Do be a wuss. Do it.
I wish that somebody had done that in my life 18 years ago. And they didn`t point the fingers, but at intervention had saved my life. But point the finger. Weed out those problem people that are in that entourage. Weed them out, and get rid of them because they`re going to kill your daughter. You, or Paris, or even Britney get involved.
The agents don`t care. They`re just taking their money. Security people, come on! You get rid one you hire another, you buy them a boat, you buy him a car, he`s going to get you dope. I`m not saying anybody is, but if there`s a problem in that little group and you know who it is, step forward, and make it happen.
Recovery works, if you work it.
ANDERSON: Make sure you only have those positive influences in your life. It makes a lot of sense. And you mentioned the intervention that you had, that was back in the `80s. Your family sat you down. And this was before shows before shows like "Intervention". Before all the of press about the posh rehab facilities, that the likes of Lindsay and Britney go to. You mentioned earlier that it is going to take something terrible happening for these girls to wake up. But do they also have to just really want to do it themselves? They have to say, you know what, I`m going clean up my act.
BUTTAFUOCO: Unfortunately, they`re young. And maybe they`re being told that -- oh, you got arrested, you bailed out, go right into rehab so you don`t go to jail. They`re thinking, maybe, possibly rehab is just a way to stay out of jail, but it will catch up to them, eventually. Rehab works. Laguna Recovery works.
ANDERSON: So you don`t think they`re too luxurious, some of them? There`s been that criticism, too.
BUTTAFUOCO: Some of them serve lattes and let you wake up when you want, and have a cheeseburger when you want. Go to a real rehab that you`re going to get the information and be educated on how to straighten out their lives. They will get it. They might not get it right away, but if they stick with it, they may get it.
They have a lot at risk here. They`re going to lose their careers, their money. They`ll be yesterday`s news. Nobody is going to care about them. If that`s what they want, just stay on track and do what you`re doing. Do the dope, do the cocaine, do the alcohol. Let the drug dealers suck all your money, all right? Lose your house, lose your car. That`s what`s going to happen.
Recovery works, but somebody has to get them there and make them understand it`s very serious. It`s life or it`s death. I chose life in 1988, October 21st, Joe Buttafuoco co-chose life. Of course, I`ve had a bumpy road ever since then, but I`m still alive and that`s the bottom line.
ANDERSON: Why do you think we`re hearing more and more about substance abuse now? Because, you know, celebrities and drug abuse have gone together for many years, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe. Is it just that there`s more press about it now.
BUTTAFUOCO: I think there`s a tremendous amount of overexposure with press about it. Years ago you never heard of a president having an affair with -- you know, with somebody who worked for him, an intern. The press used to protect people. Today they exploit them.
I`m a perfect example of total exploitation in my life with what happened to my life in `92 so, yes, the press has to take some responsibility. But at the same time, the individual has to take responsibility of their own life so that if they`re not being shown in that out-of-control mode.
ANDERSON: Great advice. Joey Buttafuoco, congratulations on your own sobriety. And thanks for joining us and best of luck on the new radio show.
BUTTAFUOCO: Thank you. "Let`s Talk Recovery".
ANDERSON: That`s right.
OK, Britney Spears, in and out of rehab, and bizarre as ever. Lindsay Lohan, in and out of rehab twice and facing two possible DUIs. I just got to ask -- why does rehab seem to fail for stars? Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT asks the controversial question -- is rehab for the rich and famous a joke?
Remember the two Coreys, young, wild stars of the `80s from "The Lost Boys," "Goonies," "Stand By Me"? I`ll admit it, I was fan. Corey Haim (ph) and Corey Feldman. Tonight, they`re right here, and they have both bounced back from drug addictions in Hollywood. Some good advice -- pay attention Lindsay. Corey and Corey are coming up next.
And she`s not in jail -- yet -- but tonight, I`ve got your first look at what Lindsay Lohan will look like behind bars, when she goes there. Don`t miss that, straight ahead.
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BARBARA WALTERS, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": What is wrong with this girl? She gets out, she`s wearing the ankle bracelet. What is wrong with these rehab places? And you come out and go right back to it?
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ANDERSON: That was Barbara Walters on "The View" today asking the question that so many are asking tonight. Do stars like Lindsay Lohan take rehab as seriously as they should? And what about the spa-like, luxury rehab centers they go to -- do they really help?
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show. I`m Brooke Anderson.
Well, with me tonight from Hollywood, Howard Samuels, executive director and co-founder of Wonderland Treatment Center. Also with me, from Hollywood, lead interventionist of the A&E show "Intervention," Ken Seeley.
Ken, Howard, welcome to you both.
Howard, you helped create Promises, now that`s the rehab facility that Lindsay Lohan was in for 45 days.
HOWARD SAMUELS, EXEC. DIR., WONDERLAND TREATMENT CTR.: Right.
ANDERSON: And there were reports that her previous rehab stay was at Wonderland before that. Barbara Walters, you know, I think she speaks for a lot of people in the country, who maybe make it -- or think that it could be a little too cushy for Lindsay and stars with addictions. What is your response to that?
SAMUELS: Well, first of all, I have to say I`m tired of rehabs getting beat up over an individual`s case like Lindsay`s that is very normal. It is very normal for an individual to go to numerous treatment programs, to be arrested numerous times. That is part of, unfortunately, the process of recovery.
I mean, I`m sitting here, I`ve spent three years of my life locked up in treatment centers. I was shooting heroin at the age of 16. I`m a convicted felon. Now I`m 22 years sober, so the whole point of that is that we are not the exception. This is the example of what a lot of people have to go through.
ANDERSON: So it`s a long process, you`re saying, and that`s completely understandable.
Ken, what do you think about the whole thing? There is a lot of criticism because from the outside they do look super luxurious?
SAMUELS: But you have to know that the -- we have to create an inviting environment to seduce the addict/alcoholic into treatment.
ANDERSON: I under that. I understand. They want the comforts of home.
SAMUELS: So we seduce them in. We seduce them in and then we start to confront their arrogance and entitlement. And, believe me, at Wonderland people have to be up at 7:30. They have to make their bed. If they do not know how, we teach them. They have to go to group all day. So they have to go to 12-step meetings. If they don`t follow our rules and regulations, they are asked to leave.
ANDERSON: I can`t imagine some of those people wouldn`t know how to make their beds, but that`s another discussion.
ANDERSON: Ken, what do you think? Is the point for rehab to be successful, that you kind of do need to rough it a little and not have all the comforts of home at your disposal?
KEN SEELEY, INTERVENTIONIST, A&E`S "INTERVENTION": You know, I disagree with that, Brooke. Because, you know, if I were to have cancer and I had the funds that I could afford a rehab like that, Promises or Wonderland, is it OK for me to go there, or should I go to a county hospital?
This is a disease that kills a lot of people every year. And if they have -- if they`re used to that lifestyle, then I agree that they need to stay in that type of atmosphere to get their recovery. Because if they go to skid row to get treatment, they`re going to be out of there in less than 24 hours. So I don`t agree with a lot of the people out there saying these rehabs don`t work.
I mean, I`ve known a lot of people that have gone through these rehabs and are clean and sober and are living really nice lives right now. And doing the best they can. But the thing is that they hit a bottom. The reality is, is that`s what we do as interventionists, is we help people hit a bottom. These people that haven`t hit their bottom, we have to help them hit their bottom. And in Lindsay`s case, you know, let`s hope that jail is going to be her bottom.
ANDERSON: And as Howard says, it may take numerous visits to a rehab. I spent a lot of time in an exclusive visit inside the Passages rehab facility in Malibu. I was pretty amazed by what I saw. I didn`t want to leave, to be honest with you. It was beautiful. It was like a five-star hotel, and then some. When I was there, sat down with famed fashion designer Marc Jacobs. And listen to his first reaction when he arrived.
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MARC JACOBS, FASHION DESIGNER, PASSAGES GUEST: We pulled up here. I said we`re in the wrong place. Because I didn`t believe this was a, you know, a drug treatment center, at all.
ANDERSON: Does this seem a little bit like a vacation at the same time, though? Because you are a very busy person.
JACOBS: Well, sitting here in a tank top and a pair of shorts, with the sun shining, it seems like a vacation.
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ANDERSON: Howard, he was comfortable but you`re saying that`s not necessarily a bad thing. I do want to add that at Passages, showed me, they took us inside their treatment, there is intensive treatment going on at the same time.
SAMUELS: Yeah, I can`t speak for that program. All I know is that at Wonderland and at some -- a lot of the other treatment programs there are rigorous schedules. It`s a nightmare for the addict, the alcoholic, to come into a drug and alcohol treatment whether it`s high end, whether it is not. It is their worst nightmare because they have to go in without their drug and their drink. Do you know how shocking that is for them to be able to do?
SAMUELS: So if we -- it`s not like, OK, we`re normal. Oh, it looks beautiful, let`s go. Well, you`re not an addict/alcoholic. You take the addict/alcoholic and it is horrible.
ANDERSON: Well, we are going to have to wrap it up there. But Ken Seeley, Howard Samuels, you`re both doing a great service for those people struggling with addiction. Thank you so much for joining us.
SAMUELS: Thank you, Brooke.
SEELEY: Thanks, Brooke.
ANDERSON: All right, so if you`re a fan of `80s movies like "Lucas," "The Lost Boys," "Goonies," "Stand By Me," you know who the two Coreys are. Corey Haim (ph) and Corey Feldman were two of the biggest teen stars of the time, but there also was a dark side to their fame. They both had very well-publicized drug problems, hit rock bottom, a lot like the bad girls of today, the Lindsays, the Britneys.
Both Coreys have gotten together to star in a new reality show about bringing their very different lives together, under one roof called, what else, "The Two Coreys." and when they stopped by, I asked them about Lindsay`s problems. And Corey Feldman admitted it`s much harder to slip up when you have the media in your face, and that makes it that much harder to bounce back.
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COREY FELDMAN, "THE TWO COREYS": What`s happening right now with Lindsay or Britney, or any of them, is exactly what goes on all around the world. And if you look within your own family, you will find everybody in the world -- look within your own family -- you will find that you have a child, you have a brother, you have a sister, you have a cousin that is going through a parallel experience. The difference being it`s not under the media spotlight.
Every time you mess up, it`s not being brought up in front of millions of people, and that makes it much, much harder to deal with. But I think what we all need to realize is that, you know, if somebody is sick, or somebody has a problem, as opposed to laughing at them or poking fun, we have to under they`re just like you and me. They`re just like our friend and family.
And they are going through something that is a life experience. And they`re making a mistake and hopefully they`re going to learn from the mistake, grow from the mistake, and come out the other side on top, being a more intelligent, more sophisticated individual.
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ANDERSON: OK, so I`m not excusing what Lindsay`s done, but what he says definitely does make sense. By the way, you can catch "The Two Coreys," which premieres this Sunday, on A&E.
All right, so Lindsay is not in jail yet but tonight I have your first look at what Lindsay Lohan will look like behind bars. Don`t miss that next.
And, oh, no, a cow on the loose, running around the neighborhood. We`re going to milk that one for our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Video of the Day", that`s also next. Stay with us.
ANDERSON: Time now for the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Video of the Day".
OK, so remember that Wendy`s commercial where it asks, "Where`s the beef?", from the `80s? Well, tonight I finally know the answer. It`s running around Florida streets. Check this out. A cow escaped from a Miami Lakes farm and ran through the neighborhood.
Hey, this looks like an episode of "Cowps." "Bad bull, bad bull, whatcha gonna do when they come for you?"
Anyway, police tried everything to "steer" him in the right direction, but he just wouldn`t -- moove! In fact, at one point, he even charged an officer! But they finally tranquilized the cow and brought him back home.
Get this, though, police say another cow could be on the loose, and that`ll mean another "steak" out!
That`s the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Video of the Day". Sorry about that.
Well, Lindsay might be melting down, but her wax statue definitely isn`t! Take a look at this. The folks over at Madame Tussaud`s Wax Museum here in New York are having some fun with all this. They dressed up their Lindsay Lohan in some good ol` fashioned prison stripes.
It`s not the first time the museum has busted out their jail clothes. They did the same to Paris Hilton last month. So they`ve gotten good mileage out of those stripes. And who knows, with so many out-of-control Hollywood stars, they could be recycling them again soon! Well, we hope not.
Yesterday, we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day -- Lindsay Lohan, arrested again. Do you feel sorry for her? Only 9 percent of you feel sorry for her. That means 91 percent of you don`t feel sorry for her. Here are some of the e-mails received.
Vania from Florida, does feel sorry for Lindsay. "Nobody should have to deal with addiction. This is a girl who needs help and we need to show compassion."
But Myra from Massachusetts writes -- "I have never seen anything so utterly disgusting in my life! Lindsay Lohan needs to be in a court-ordered rehab and not allowed to drive for a very long time. She is going to kill someone!"
Time to see what`s coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Tomorrow, female stars behind bars! Why so many of Hollywood`s leading ladies are trading in their designer dresses for prison stripes! Yeah, it`s not just Paris. Some big names have gotten into big trouble! I`m investigating "Stars Behind Bars" tomorrow.
Also, Martin Sheen is right here. He`s got a lot to say about young, out-of-control Hollywood. Remember, his son, Charlie, kind of a reformed bad boy himself! So he`s got a good parent`s perspective on the bad girls! Martin Sheen, tomorrow, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
That`s a wrap for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thanks so much for watching. I`m Brooke Anderson in New York.
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