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NANCY GRACE

911 Call in Lindsay Lohan Incident Released

Aired July 27, 2007 - 20:00:00   ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, breaking news, 21-year-old Hollywood superstar Lindsay Lohan busted only two weeks out of a luxury rehab, just weeks after her last arrest, Lohan facing charges on DUI nearly double the legal limit and felony cocaine possession, the latest of arrest just five days after her last court date on a Beverly Hills DUI hit-and-run smash-up also allegedly involved cocaine.
Headlines tonight. A frantic, hysterical 911 call is released, that call by a woman begging cops for help as Lohan allegedly drunk and chasing her in a white SUV. And tonight, stunning claims emerge by three men inside that SUV when Lohan allegedly grabs the keys and takes off, Lohan described as raging, running drunk over a passenger`s foot who had actually jumped from the SUV. At speeds of 100 mph, Lohan allegedly says, I`m a celebrity, I can`t get in trouble. Is the "Herbie Fully Loaded" star facing even more jail time?

And tonight, another star, celebutante Nicole Richie, heads to jail on charges of dangerously driving the wrong way on a California highway while high on Vicodin and pot.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) the lead of her "Simple Life" co- star Paris Hilton and heading to jail, Richie appeared at a court in Glendale (ph), California, this morning agreeing to a plea bargain.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Miss Richie received standard second-time DUI for pleading guilty to driving under the influence. The sentence is three years summary probation, $500 plus penalty assessments, 96 hours in the county jail.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This morning, we`re hearing the 911 call that led police to arrest Lindsay Lohan. The call was made by the mother of Lohan`s personal assistant, who thought that she and her daughter were being chased by a mysterious car. She didn`t realize that Lindsay Lohan was driving that mysterious car. Police showed up and arrested Lohan on misdemeanor drunk driving and felony cocaine possession.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... this is a serious crime, and that if you drive while you are under the influence, you will be charged and you will be brought into court. And if you drive while under the influence a second time, you will go to jail.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us tonight. While "Simple Life" star celebutante Nicole Richie heads to jail, new and serious allegations emerge against Hollywood mega-star Lindsay Lohan, stunning allegations by three witnesses inside that SUV.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

MICHELLE PECK, ASSISTANT`S MOTHER: Right now, we`re on 7th and Wilshire.

911 OPERATOR: OK. What`s going on there?

PECK: I don`t -- we were -- we were just about to park our car. We were coming home. And out of nowhere, a huge white GMC came up and...

(CROSSTALK)

PECK: We`re coming -- we`re 4th and Wilshire. We`re coming down right now. We`re being followed by a GMC. The gentleman jumped out of the car...

911 OPERATOR: And what did he do?

PECK: ... tried to -- oh, my God, sir! They`re following us! We need help!

911 OPERATOR: OK. I need to know what he did, ma`am.

PECK: He pulled -- I don`t know what exactly -- oh, my God! What is he doing?

911 OPERATOR: What`s going on? Ma`am?

PECK: Oh, my God! Oh, my God, sir!

911 OPERATOR: Ma`am, listen to me. Ma`am, listen to me, OK? Answer my questions. Answer my questions, OK? I need to...

PECK: Sir! Sir!

911 OPERATOR: Ma`am -- (INAUDIBLE) Ma`am, what`s going on there? Hello? Hello? Ma`am? Hello?

(END AUDIO CLIP)

GRACE: Tonight, stunning new allegations emerge from the three young men inside the SUV that Lohan apparently commandeered and began driving at speeds of 100 miles an hour right down a California highway.

Let`s go straight out to Jason Kennedy, correspondent with E! News. What are the three claiming?

JASON KENNEDY, E! NEWS CORRESPONDENT: They are claiming a lot of things, that Lindsay Lohan was intoxicated at the time of driving, that she was driving at speeds in excess of 100 miles per hour, Nancy, that she was swerving and weaving down the Pacific Coast Highway late and -- very early in the morning -- late at night for some people.

And they`re saying, at one point, Lindsay got into a fight with her assistant, Tarin, and Tarin apparently sped off. And Lindsay said, I`m going to chase after her, allegedly. Lindsay took over. She got into the white Denali. One of the guys is claiming that Lindsay in the process ran over his foot...

GRACE: Wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wait-wait. Let`s back up. Let`s back it up. How did this whole evening start? They were all at a party?

KENNEDY: There was a party going on in the Malibu area, and Lindsay`s assistant -- her name is Tarin. She invited her boyfriend and her boyfriend`s friends to come to the party. Apparently, later that evening, there was a fight between Lindsay and Tarin. Tarin allegedly quit or Lindsay fired her. We`re still trying to figure out that information at this time. That`s when Tarin sped off...

GRACE: But didn`t the three guys say that they heard the assistant say, I quit?

KENNEDY: They are not specifically saying that, but they are lobbying and saying...

GRACE: Hold on. Hold on just a moment. I watched an interview on TMZ.com with the three guys, and they state they heard the assistant say, I quit.

KENNEDY: Well, if you look from some people in Lindsay`s camp, they`re not specifically saying that. And I guess you could take into effect what these gentlemen are saying. That`s one of the many things and one of the charges that they`re claiming against Lindsay. And they`re also, more importantly, Nancy, going to file charges, apparently, against Lindsay Lohan, one of them saying that she ran over his foot when she took over this white SUV.

GRACE: Holy moly! OK, let`s take a listen to the three guys inside the vehicle Lohan allegedly commandeered that night drunk.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then this is when, you know, I`m, like, Dude, I`m, like, you`re going to kill us, you know? And she -- and then that`s when she`s, like, you know, I don`t give a (DELETED) about it, you know? She`s, like, I don`t give (DELETED). I can`t get in trouble. She`s just...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean, she can`t get in trouble? Did she say why she couldn`t get in trouble?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, because she knows people who can do things to us.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She says, No, I can`t get in trouble. I`m a celebrity. I can do whatever the (DELETED) I want.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At that time, that`s when Lindsay reaches over me because my window is down, snags the key out of my ignition, runs around the car, hops in the car. I tell her -- that`s like, when I`m, like -- I`m, like, No, you know? Don`t drive. That`s when he hops out of the car.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s when I -- I jump out of the car and...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You were where? You were in the back seat?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was in the back seat behind Dante. I jump out of the car as she`s just about to start accelerating. She accelerates. She runs over my foot.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She actually ran over your foot?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She actually ran over my foot. And she didn`t stop. She kept moving. She kept driving.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then she gets out of the car like nothing happened and tries to go over and walk to the escalator with the -- and you know, and the cops -- I don`t -- I don`t -- I don`t really -- the cops come up, and she kind of just, kind of, like -- it seemed like she shunned the cops, like, you know, Oh, big deal, the cops are here. And then that`s when they sit us down. Then they arrest her and they put her about 40 feet away from us. And you can -- you can -- we can hear her saying that, No, no, I wasn`t driving. The black kid was driving.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She said the black kid was driving?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you hear that?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I didn`t hear that, but they came over and they were really...

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... interrogating me, if I was driving or not.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And everybody asked me if I was driving.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And they -- and they...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you heard Lindsay tell the cops that, It wasn`t me. The black kid was driving?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That is courtesy of TMZ.com. Back to Jason Kennedy with E! News. So when the cops get there, she goes, Oh, it was the black kid.

KENNEDY: Exactly. She quickly said it was this African-American kid. And you`ve got to remember this was only a block away from the police station. This woman, Michelle Peck -- she is the mother of the assistant. She`s the one who made that now infamous 911 call. And she pulled into this driveway at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium. And when the police arrived there, she quickly said, you know, This is the situation that happened. And Lindsay was quick to point out, You know, It wasn`t me, allegedly. It was this black kid driving.

GRACE: So you`re saying it was the assistant that made the 911 call?

KENNEDY: No, it`s the assistant`s mother.

GRACE: Mother...

KENNEDY: Her name is Michelle Peck.

GRACE: ... that made the 911 call. Oh, OK. I understand. I understand.

Out to Sibila Vargas, CNN correspondent. You know, at first we thought we were dealing with a DUI and felony possession of a user amount of cocaine, powder cocaine.

SIBILA VARGAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right.

GRACE: This has changed things a lot.

VARGAS: Oh, absolutely.

GRACE: What else are you hearing?

VARGAS: Well, you know, let`s get back to these poor guys. If you believe what they say, it is absolutely terrifying. Like you were saying, when she got to the location, when the police actually confronted her, she blamed it on the black kid. At one point, she actually says, Tell them the truth. Tell them I wasn`t driving the car. They all looked at each other and said, Are you kidding?

She`s going to be facing serious charges if, indeed, she did run over -- look at that kid walking. Obviously, his foot is hurting. He hasn`t even gone to a hospital, according to his attorney, because he doesn`t have any medical insurance. And you know, she slammed -- thankfully, he was the one who got out of the car because according to these kids, according to these young men, there was one point where they were driving down 4th Street and saw multiple red lights in front of them. And they said that Lindsay just went behind the wheel, and they knew right then and there she got out of the car because according to these kids, according to these young men, there was one point where they were driving down fourth street and saw multiple red lights in front of them. And they said that Lindsay just went behind the wheel and they knew right then and there she was going to do something crazy. She took off and they were saying she was in excess of 80 miles per hour. They must have been terrified, Nancy.

GRACE: Now...

VARGAS: I don`t know what she...

GRACE: Everybody was at this party. The girlfriend and the boyfriend come outside and have an argument.

VARGAS: Right.

GRACE: Lohan comes out of the party and starts arguing with her assistant, or they have an argument.

VARGAS: Yes. They`re having an argument. She`s upset because they`re having an argument and making noise.

GRACE: That`s when the assistant allegedly quits.

VARGAS: That`s what these young men are saying.

GRACE: The assistant drives off.

VARGAS: Yes.

GRACE: And Lohan jumps in the car?

VARGAS: Jumps in the car and starts heading down the PCH going in excess of 80 miles per hour. That`s what they`re saying. She starts doing multiple U-turns as this woman, Tarin, her assistant, is trying to run away from Lohan. She says, I`m going to go get her. At one point, she loses Tarin. She can`t find her.

GRACE: She loses the assistant.

VARGAS: She loses her. She figures out, according to the men, Tarin is probably going to her mother`s house. That`s how she ended up at her mother`s house, or at least the yard. That`s when they met up with her mom, who doesn`t even know what the heck is going on. Lindsay Lohan is now going after Tarin`s mom, according to the young men again. You know, she has no idea who`s going after her.

GRACE: Here it is, after 1:00 in the morning. The mom is pulling into her own driveway and suddenly believes she`s being chased by a bunch of guys and calls 911. Let`s listen to the 911 call in its entirety.

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911 OPERATOR: Santa Monica Police. What`s the emergency?

PECK: Yes, sir, I`m...

911 OPERATOR: Hello?

PECK: ... and Montana.

911 OPERATOR: You`re at where on Montana, ma`am?

PECK: Is this a police officer? No, it`s not.

911 OPERATOR: This is the Santa Monica Police. What`s...

PECK: Is he behind you? Is he behind you?

911 OPERATOR: Where are you? Ma`am? Ma`am?

PECK: Right now, we`re on 7th and Wilshire.

911 OPERATOR: OK. What`s going on there?

PECK: I don`t -- we were -- we were just about to park our car. We were coming home. And out of nowhere, a huge white GMC came up and...

(CROSSTALK)

PECK: We`re coming -- we`re 4th and Wilshire. We`re coming down right now. We`re being followed by a GMC. The gentleman jumped out of the car...

911 OPERATOR: And what did he do?

PECK: ... tried to -- oh, my God, sir! They`re following us! We need help!

911 OPERATOR: Where are you?

PECK: Right now, we`re on Arizona.

911 OPERATOR: I need to know exactly where you are so I can send you help.

PECK: On, my God! Are they following us? OK, sir. Right now, we`re on Santa Monica.

911 OPERATOR: Where are you?

PECK: We`re in -- I`m so sorry.

911 OPERATOR: I need to know where you`re at. Otherwise, I can`t help you.

PECK: We`re driving to the police station right now.

911 OPERATOR: But where are you?

PECK: On 4th and Broadway. We`re on 4th and Broadway and...

911 OPERATOR: OK. And the white GMC? What did this guy do?

PECK: We were pulling -- we were pulling into a -- we were just coming home.

(CROSSTALK)

PECK: We`re coming right now. We`re driving into the police station.

911 OPERATOR: I understand.

PECK: Sir, please...

911 OPERATOR: OK. But what -- what did he...

PECK: The gentleman came out of his car.

911 OPERATOR: There he is. It`s that white GMC pick-up.

PECK: They may have a gun, sir, and...

911 OPERATOR: OK. I need to know what he did, ma`am.

PECK: He pulled -- I don`t know what exactly -- oh, my God! What is he doing?

911 OPERATOR: What`s going on, ma`am?

PECK: Oh, my God! Oh, my God, sir!

911 OPERATOR: Ma`am, listen to me. Ma`am, listen to me, OK? Answer my questions.

(CROSSTALK)

911 OPERATOR: Answer my questions, OK? I need to...

PECK: Sir! Sir!

911 OPERATOR: Ma`am? They`re in front of (INAUDIBLE) now. (INAUDIBLE) Ma`am, what`s going on there? Hello? Hello? Ma`am? Hello?

PECK: Get them! Get them right there. And him. Stop them!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anything on the other vehicle?

911 OPERATOR: No, it was just that white GMC Yukon that was going southbound. She hasn`t answered any of my questions.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s in the white GMC?

911 OPERATOR: No, no, no. That`s the suspect vehicle.

(CROSSTALK)

911 OPERATOR: Confirm there`s a unit out with her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 10-4.

911 OPERATOR: All right.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

GRACE: Well, first of all, the woman`s clearly scared out of her brain. And that 911 operator just sounds like he`s too busy to be bothered.

I want to go out to the lines. Lucy in New York. Hi, Lucy.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. Love you, Nancy.

GRACE: Thank you. Thank you for watching.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is, being that this is her second offense with DWI, endangering people lives, drug possession, would that be automatic imprisonment?

GRACE: Let`s unleash the lawyers. Joining us tonight, Susan Moss and Anne Bremner. Susan Moss out of New York, Anne Bremner, high-profile Seattle lawyer. Also, out of San Francisco, Daniel Horowitz. Sue Moss, jail time?

SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Hi-lo, hi-lo, it`s off to jail she`ll go. She`s absolutely going to see some real jail time, and not some Nicole Richie four-day stint. She`s going to see weeks upon weeks, and it is deserved. Not only do we have the possession of coke, not only do we have the transport of coke, not only do we have the two DUIs, but we have a whole host of other offenses now, including assault, battery, reckless driving, et cetera.

GRACE: What about it, Anne Bremner?

ANNE BREMNER, TRIAL ATTORNEY: She needs help, Nancy. And he fact is, right now, she`s not been convicted of anything. Could she serve four days, like Nicole Richie, or could she serve six years because there are potential felonies in this with the cocaine possession? Not just constructive possession this time but potential possession.

GRACE: Anne, we`re asking you the question.

BREMNER: Well, but the fact is, Nancy, here`s somebody -- she`s a train wreck, a car wreck. She needs help. And in the system, as you well know, you can have help, therapy, as an alternative to confinement in certain circumstances. And she`s not going to make it that past age 21 if she doesn`t get that. And she deserves to get that help and she needs to be in rehab right now. We don`t know where she is, but it`s very important that she is safe from herself and others are safe from her.

GRACE: Correct me if I`m wrong, Daniel Horowitz, but hasn`t she just finished one of the premier rehabs in the world, $48,000 a month? A believe that was Promises. And before that, there was another one, Daniel. So why does everybody -- sounds like a broken record. Rehab, rehab. Look, I`m all for rehab. She can get dried out in jail.

DANIEL HOROWITZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: You know, Nancy, rehab is I think overrated for a lot of people. The core problems don`t get taken care of in three weeks drying out in rehab. It`s a lifetime...

GRACE: Look at your monitor. This is the rehab she was just in. Do you see that? Hold it.

HOROWITZ: Yes.

GRACE: Keep going.

HOROWITZ: Nancy, I think that rehab ultimately can be an opening to allow you to deal with your real core problems. She has kind of crazy parents, we can all agree, and I`m sure her childhood caused her to be this way. She was not made into a drug-using...

GRACE: Let me see Horowitz.

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Did I just hear him say childhood? Childhood is over.

HOROWITZ: Yes.

GRACE: This is a 21-year-old Hollywood superstar. Where were you when you were 21, Horowitz? Where were you? What were you doing?

HOROWITZ: I was working, Nancy. I was a stock boy...

GRACE: With a job.

HOROWITZ: ... and a janitor. But the point is that I had great parents. You had great parents. And we`re lucky. She was unlucky. And I`m not saying it`s an excuse to hurt other people, but like Anne said, she`s a train wreck. And if she got the right treatment and intensive personal therapy, she could put her life in order.

GRACE: OK. Thanks, Horowitz.

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: I sound like I`m hearing second verse same as the first between you and Bremner.

Out to Ken Seely, interventionist with A&E`s Intervention. He`s the founder of Intervention911.com. Ken, if she hadn`t already been to not one but two very expensive, very well-known rehabs, and all this is happening right after getting out of rehab, I`d be all for rehab. But that`s not working.

KEN SEELY, INTERVENTIONIST: Yes. Nancy, you`re absolutely right here. I mean, she doesn`t need more rehab. She needs to hit a bottom. I mean, it`s so sad what`s happening here. Everybody -- all your other guests I`m hearing rehab, rehab, rehab. She`s had that opportunity. She pretty much spit in their face and said, Screw you, I`m going to do it my way. I`m still in control here.

Enough is enough. She needs to do some time, feel the pain, and then let her go to rehab and do it the way other people do it, and not these luxurious places.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then this is when, you know, I`m, like, Dude, I`m, like, you`re going to kill us, you know? And she -- and then that`s when she`s, like, you know, I don`t give a (DELETED) about it, you know? She`s, like, I don`t give (DELETED). I can`t get in trouble. She`s just...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean, she can`t get in trouble? Did she say why she couldn`t get in trouble?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, because she knows people who can do things to us.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She says, No, I can`t get in trouble. I`m a celebrity. I can do whatever the (DELETED) I want.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That video courtesy of TMZ.com. Those were the three young men in the SUV that Lohan apparently commandeered. One of the passengers reportedly jumped out of the SUV in fear, and Lohan ran over his foot, according to reports.

I want to go to Dr. Betty Cohan, psychotherapist and author. According to these witnesses, Lohan says, when they try to make her stop driving, Don`t touch me or I`ll sue you, number one, Then says, I can`t get in trouble because I`m a celebrity. I can do what the "F" I want. OK. Think rehab`s going to work?

BETTY COHAN, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Well, no, I don`t think that rehab the way it`s goon on in the past is going to work at all. I think that Lindsay Lohan is a very, very seriously disturbed young girl. What she needs -- I see Lindsay Lohans in my practice, Nancy, every day of the week. And what these people need is intensive, intensive individual psychotherapy to help them get to the root of their problems, so that they`re going to be able to understand what it is about their lives and what it is about them...

GRACE: Betty, I`m all for her solving her problems. But what about the rest of us poor schlumps out on the street when she comes barrelling down at 100 miles an hour?

COHAN: There`s no question, Nancy, that she is going to have to face the legal consequences of her actions. I mean, I would say, Nancy, although I haven`t treated Lindsay Lohan, my diagnosis would be bi-polar disorder. And she needs some good help, and she certainly hasn`t gotten it at all at this point.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: Santa Monica Police. What`s the emergency?

PECK: Yes, sir, I`m...

911 OPERATOR: Hello?

PECK: ... and Montana.

911 OPERATOR: You`re at where on Montana, ma`am?

PECK: Is this a police officer? No, it`s not.

911 OPERATOR: This is the Santa Monica Police. What`s...

PECK: Is he behind you? Is he behind you?

911 OPERATOR: Where are you? Ma`am? Ma`am?

(END AUDIO CLIP)

GRACE: That 911 call from a woman -- she`s not to be taken lightly. She`s a very well-respected businesswoman there in the area that caters to a lot of stars.

Out to the lines. Linda in Washington state. Hi, Linda.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. My question is, with the information that came out today, shouldn`t she be charged for carjacking and for lying to a police officer?

GRACE: I was just going to the lawyers. Out to Susan Moss. So far, we only have the police charges. That will change when prosecutors get a hold of the case. What charges do you expect?

MOSS: Absolutely. Once prosecutors get involved, we may get a carjacking. We may get a kidnapping. We also will get a battery, assault, reckless driving. We`re going to get a whole host of other charges, and it`s going to be serious time for Lindsay.

GRACE: What about it, Daniel Horowitz?

HOROWITZ: The story of these three young men is -- it doesn`t make sense. There`s a little, slender woman...

GRACE: I just asked you what the charges are going to be.

HOROWITZ: Driving under the influence and possession of cocaine. Those three guys are full of baloney.

GRACE: What about running over the guy`s foot?

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DISPATCHER: Santa Monica Police. What`s the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... Montana...

DISPATCHER: You`re where on Montana, ma`am? This is the Santa Monica police.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is he behind you? Is he behind you?

DISPATCHER: Where are you, ma`am, ma`am?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right now, we`re on Seventh and Wilshire.

DISPATCHER: OK, what`s going on there?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We were just about to park our car. We were turning, and out of nowhere, a huge white GMC came up and -- OK, that`s OK. This is -- we`re coming. We`re at Fourth and Wilshire. We`re coming down right now. We`re being followed by a GMC. The gentleman jumped out of the car...

DISPATCHER: And what did he do?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my god, sir, they`re following us. We need help.

DISPATCHER: Where are you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right now, we`re on Arizona.

DISPATCHER: I need to know exactly where you are so I can send you help.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my god. Are they following us? OK, sir, right now we`re on Santa Monica.

DISPATCHER: Where are you? I need to know where you`re at, otherwise, I can`t help you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`re driving to the police station right now, sir.

DISPATCHER: But where are you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Fourth and Broadway. We are on Fourth and Broadway. And...

DISPATCHER: And the white GMC, what did this guy do?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We were pulling into a -- we were just coming home. We`re coming right now. We`re driving into the police station, sir, please.

DISPATCHER: OK, but what -- what did he...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The gentleman came out of his car.

DISPATCHER: There he is. It`s that white GMC pickup.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They may have a gun, sir.

DISPATCHER: OK, I need to know what he did, ma`am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He pulled -- I don`t what exactly. Oh my god, what is he doing?

DISPATCHER: What`s going on, ma`am?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh my god. Oh my god, sir!

DISPATCHER: Ma`am, listen to me. Ma`am, listen to me, OK? Answer my questions. Answer my questions, OK? I need to...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sir, sir!

DISPATCHER: Ma`am, what`s going on there? Hello? Ma`am? Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get them! Get them! Right there and him, stop them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anything on the other vehicle?

DISPATCHER: No, it was just that white GMC Yukon that was going southbound. She hasn`t answered any of my questions.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s in the white GMC?

DISPATCHER: No, no, no, that`s the suspect vehicle. Confirm there`s a unit out with her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ten-four.

DISPATCHER: All right.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: The woman clearly scared out of her wits as she thought she was being chased by a carload of men. Actually, it was Lindsay Lohan, the "Herbie: Full Loaded" star, then arrested for DUI and possession of cocaine. Tonight, stunning suggestions emerge from the passengers inside the vehicle Lohan had apparently commandeered. That was not her SUV.

Out to the lines, Sherena in Virginia. Hi, Sherena.

CALLER: Hi, Nancy. God bless you.

GRACE: Thank you.

CALLER: My question is, with Nicole Richie, when she was charged with driving under the influence, couldn`t she also have been charged with felony drug possession, since the marijuana was actually found in her system?

GRACE: Let`s go out to Carolina Lugo, deputy D.A. in L.A. County. She handled the Richie case. Carolina, thank you for being with us. We really appreciate you being on the show tonight. Why wasn`t she charged -- actually, just tell me, what was she charged with exactly? What happened today with Richie in court?

CAROLINA LUGO, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, LOS ANGELES: Good afternoon, Ms. Grace. Thank you for having me on. Ms. Richie was charged with one count and that is driving under the influence, in this case of drugs. There was also an allegation that she had a prior conviction for driving under the influence, and she pled guilty to the count charged, and she admitted the allegation charged.

GRACE: With us is Carolina Lugo, deputy D.A. in Los Angeles County. She handled the Richie case. Carolina, was there any other drug confiscated from the car, or was it simply what was in her system?

LUGO: We charged -- the count that we charged and the allegation was what we had evidence for. We had evidence to prove those counts beyond a reasonable doubt. The people believe that. We didn`t charge anything that we didn`t believe we had evidence to prove.

GRACE: So the drugs -- what I`m asking is, the drugs that she`s charged with, that was in her system, right, nothing in the car?

LUGO: I don`t have any evidence that there was any possession of any drugs.

GRACE: OK. Wasn`t she driving under the influence of drugs? Yes, no?

LUGO: Driving under the influence, which is different than being in possession of.

GRACE: Right, so, in answer to the question, the drugs were in her system. She was not charged with drugs in the vehicle.

LUGO: Correct.

GRACE: OK. Back to Sherena in Virginia, according to Carolina Lugo who handled the case today in court -- this is the deputy D.A. there in Los Angeles County -- she was charged only with the drugs in her system. For possession with intent to distribute, you have to have an amount of drugs beyond individual use.

Now, for instance, if you`re talking about cocaine, that could be five, eight, 10 hits of crack. That`s clearly beyond individual use at one sitting. So just what was in her system, according to Carolina, is what she was charged with. The state felt they were beyond a reasonable doubt standard on that, and so that`s what they went with.

Back to Carolina Lugo, her sentence will be what, Carolina?

LUGO: Her sentence was, she will be on summary probation for 36 months. That`s almost like a deal she makes with the court, that for 36 months she will abide by all the terms and conditions of probation and will not get in trouble anymore. She will also have to pay fines, and she`ll have to serve 96 hours in the county jail. And she`ll have to suffer the consequences that the DMV imposes on her.

GRACE: Ms. Lugo, it`s my understanding that in court today she was very serious, she was very respectful of the state -- that would be you and the judge -- and flat-out pled guilty. None of the back and forth, "It`s not me. It`s not my drugs. It`s not my pants. It`s not my legs. It`s not my car." She pled guilty and didn`t make a fuss about it.

LUGO: That`s correct. She was serious in court. The judge spoke to her. He was serious, as he should have been. These were serious charges. She admitted guilt and admitted the prior conviction.

GRACE: I want to go back out to our attorneys, Daniel Horowitz, Anne Bremner, Susan Moss. You know, Daniel Horowitz, it`s like night and day the way that the Nicole Richie case was handled versus the way we see the Lohan and the Paris Hilton cases shaping up.

DANIEL HOROWITZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, you know, Nicole Richie drove the wrong way down a street. She really could have killed somebody. And at first, she resisted pleading guilty, but I think in the end she has some character to her. She has some inner strength. I think she`s finally going to get a handle and deal with her problems.

GRACE: Daniel. Daniel.

HOROWITZ: Lohan is too messed up and needs stronger help.

GRACE: You`re saying Richie posed a threat, 80-pound Richie, while Lohan driving 100 miles an hour DUI with cocaine in her pocket, that`s not a threat, and ran over somebody`s foot?

HOROWITZ: I purposefully made that point, Nancy, to contrast the fact that people are so hard on Lohan, but Richie, it`s OK...

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GRACE: Lohan ran over somebody! Rosie, can you show me that guy`s foot? Did you see this guy`s foot? She ran -- Sue Moss, throw me a bone here. She ran over the guy`s foot. And Horowitz and Bremner are saying she`s not a threat.

SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: It`s ridiculous. You know, Nicole Richie was very serious today, but she was still wearing stilettos. But, obviously, she`s going to do her time, and that`s exactly what should happen. But what could have happened in the Lohan matter, she nearly hit a few people on her, you know, tirade down in Santa Monica. The amount of damage, considering she also had two other passengers in that car, could have been devastating.

GRACE: I`m going to go out to a special guest joining us tonight, George Pizzo. His daughter, killed by a drunk driver. Mr. Pizzo, thank you for being with us.

GEORGE PIZZO, DAUGHTER KILLED BY DRUNK DRIVERS: Hi, Nancy. Thank you.

GRACE: When you hear people say this doesn`t pose a threat -- there is a picture of Mr. Pizzo`s daughter -- how do you respond?

PIZZO: Well, it`s insane. I mean, my daughter went out for the evening in town to watch a firework display and was walking back to her car and was killed in a second like that. So, you know, I don`t know how to respond to you, Nancy, other than it`s a problem that we have to deal with. The drunk driving...

GRACE: Mr. Pizzo, people don`t understand. According to statistics, every time there`s actually a vehicular homicide or a crash, that driver has driven many, many times before drunk.

PIZZO: Right. And there are also statistics -- I was trying to find them before I came here tonight; I wasn`t able to -- that, after they`re convicted of DUIs, they continue to drive drunk.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just before Lindsay Lohan`s arrest, the mother of her former assistant called 911 to say she was being followed. That woman totally unaware Lohan was behind the wheel of that mysterious vehicle that was tailing her. Well, according to the dispatch tape, the woman was frantic after she saw that white car. Lohan was arrested soon after the call on charges of drunken driving and felony drug possession.

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GRACE: Lohan facing charges of DUI and possession of cocaine. Now stunning allegations emerge from the people inside the SUV Lohan had commandeered. Out to Marty Mackary, Dr. Marty Mackary, professor, public health at Johns Hopkins. We know that driving DUI is bad enough. Mix cocaine with DUI, what effect does that mixture have on someone?

DR. MARTY MACKARY, PHYSICIAN, JOHNS HOPKINS: Well, we`re talking about two substances here that significantly impair your judgment, perception and orientation. There`s no actual medical association, although it`s not good to take both -- there`s no actual medical interaction between the two, but the two have additive effect of some.

GRACE: Such as what? What do you mean?

MACKARY: Well, for example, you`re disoriented with alcohol. You`re disoriented with cocaine. The crash with cocaine comes about 15 minutes to an hour after usage. With alcohol, it`s a continuous six-, seven-, ten- hour depressant.

So, you know, Nancy, the thing is, celebrities, they often feel -- and people of power -- that they are immune from medical problems. And these are often, frankly, the most difficult patients. They have the poorest relapse rates in rehab facilities. And oftentimes treatment doesn`t work because treatment is based on a willingness to get better and a change in environment, two things celebrities have a tough time with.

GRACE: Change in environment, you mean not being with the same group that you drink and drug with all the time?

MACKARY: Exactly. Those temptations need to be gone.

GRACE: Dr. Mackary, to Nicole Richie, quickly, what is vicodin, and what effect does it have on your system, especially if you`re driving?

MACKARY: Vicodin is probably one of the most commonly used narcotics by doctors to treat pain. It`s most commonly used after surgery and orthopedic surgery. Over the course of a few weeks, it`s not addictive. But beyond that, it can be addictive. It`s a narcotic, and it makes you drowsy. Many hospitals have gotten burned with patients having accidents after vicodin.

GRACE: Vicodin.

To Don Clark, former head of the Houston FBI bureau, Don, considering the allegations and the evidence that we are hearing tonight from the people that were basically trapped inside the SUV with Lohan, do you see additional charges coming down the pike?

DON CLARK, FORMER HEAD OF FBI HOUSTON BUREAU: You know, Nancy, it`s possible that additional charges could come down the pike. But here`s what`s got to take place. First of all, the investigators have to really establish and develop the evidence. And besides developing the evidence, they`ve also got to get credible witnesses that`s going to be able to get on the witness stand. And if they can put those two pieces of the puzzle together, based on the evidence that they collect, then they may have some of these others. I don`t really see that in this group coming so far. And I think the cops -- police officers may have to rely on what they happened to see and know at that time with the charges.

GRACE: You don`t believe that the adult woman being chased is credible?

CLARK: Well, I`m not saying that she`s not credible, but she`s not the only one in there. The young men...

GRACE: You`re talking about the three guys in the car.

CLARK: Yes, the three guys in the car. I can`t see these people saying, "Ok, yes, we`re going to go up, we`re going to testify against her."

HANNITY: Let me go to Anne Bremner on that. I think you have a valid point, Don. With me, Don Clark, former FBI head of the Houston bureau. Anne, what he`s getting at is these three guys are probably going to sue.

ANNE BREMNER, TRIAL ATTORNEY: That`s right.

GRACE: They have a monetary interest, a pecuniary or monetary interest, can be attacked on cross-exam. Explain.

BREMNER: Well, absolutely, because it shows an incentive to try and change your testimony to make money and that kind of advice. And they even said, "We hope people don`t think that we`re opportunists." And keep in mind, also, Nancy, that here we have a situation where the claimed victim said a guy was chasing her. So it`s a little bit murky.

GRACE: Well, don`t you think that goes to help the alleged victim being chased? She didn`t know it was Lindsay Lohan. She had no idea, so that she doesn`t have a dog in the fight. "Let`s get Lindsay Lohan." She was driving into her own driveway when an SUV comes barreling down 100 miles an hour.

BREMNER: No, that`s true. But I`m just saying, the only reason I bring that up, Nancy, saying it`s a guy, I mean, the whole thing about what exactly happened out there in this situation is at issue. And the fact is, they come out and say, "We`re going to sue her right now," and they say, "but we don`t want to be seen as opportunists." So...

GRACE: Did you see that guy`s foot?

BREMNER: I saw that foot. But, you know...

GRACE: OK, that says it all.

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BREMNER: Well, I mean, the thing is, you know, a closed mouth gathers no foot. And maybe they should be quiet right now and go through the system and get the treatment and see if there`s going to be charges filed, based upon the evidence given to the police department.

GRACE: Out to Leslie in Georgia, hi, Leslie.

CALLER: Hi, Nancy. Thanks for taking my call. As a person who was charged with DUI, I was fortunate enough to spend time in jail, a few days, and then I was placed in a drug court therapy in Tripp County. What are the chances that she will be placed in an intensive drug court program?

GRACE: You mean in some kind of a therapy program, Leslie?

CALLER: Drug court is a very intensive drug program. It involves random drug testing.

GRACE: Right. I think that the likelihood is that she`s going to get some amount of jail time, probably not as much as many people think she would deserve, and then be under supervision that you were describing as drug court, intensive probation, with urinalysis, drug screening intermittently.

I want go back to George Pizzo, his daughter killed by a drunk driver. Mr. Pizzo, it seems to me that people don`t take DUI seriously until someone has been killed.

PIZZO: That`s the unfortunate fact: They don`t. And, you know, people who -- anybody who suffers from any type of substance abuse does not wake up in the morning and say, "I`ve done it enough. I need to get help." You have to hit a bottom, and that bottom is something that is so intolerable to you that you`ve got to reevaluate what you`re doing in life and want to get help.

GRACE: What has your life been like since losing your daughter?

PIZZO: You know, when you lose a child, your life in many ways is over. It`s just a thing that you think about every waking minute of every day.

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GRACE: What a week in America`s courtrooms. Take a look at the stories and the people who touched our lives.

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GRACE: ... told the little girl, Wendy Murphy, you can`t leave the apartment unless you have sex with me in Vai.

WENDY MURPHY, FORMER PROSECUTOR: Oh, no. I think that`s the big Vai lie of this case, Nancy. He commanded her to perform certain sex acts in English.

GRACE: Yes, we called the home, too, but whoever answered spoke fluent English. They said "f you," and there was not a hint of an accent.

Her whole life was all about going to medical school and following her father`s footsteps. That will never be now. She, her sister, and her mother all dead after a fatal home invasion by two repeat offenders, say police.

Here`s the girl slinging herself down the road at 1:38 a.m., high as a kite. When she gets out on the public roads, then it becomes my business and your business, Susan Moss.

MOSS: Absolutely. Lindsay Lo caught on blow, to jail she must go.

GRACE: He begs her not to drive drunk. Bottom line: She went anyway, pedal to the metal, dragged her fiance for blocks, killing him.

Training camp for the Atlanta Falcons without Michael Vick, their star quarterback, once the number-one draft pick in the NFL. Vick in a federal courthouse today pleading not guilty.

MIKE BROOKS, FORMER D.C. POLICE: They can be afraid of the FBI, but he could even more afraid of the Internal Revenue Service criminal investigation division.

GRACE: Please don`t say tax man. That makes even me start shaking.

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GRACE: Let`s stop to remember Army Sergeant Ronald Coffelt, 36, Fair Oaks, California, killed, Iraq. On a second tour, a career soldier MP, devoted to family and country, loved coaching Little League, leaving behind grieving widow, Debbie, five children, 7 to 15, parents, Robert and Janice, sister, Kimberly, and grandma, Pauline. Ronald Coffelt, American hero.

Thank you for being with us. And to our guests, thank you for inviting us into our homes. A special good night from friends of the show from Millington Baptist Church, New Jersey. And a special good night from the New York control room. Night, Rosie, Brett, Big Ben. Until tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern, good night, friend.

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