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Rock Star Talks about Overcoming Addiction; John Walsh Weighs in on Fight Against Child Molesters; Study: Men, Women Differ in Choosing Partners
Aired September 07, 2007 - 19:00 ET
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GLENN BECK, HOST (voice-over): Tonight, what`s it like to go from the peak of success to the brink of death? I`ll talk about overcoming demons of addiction with Motley Crue`s Nikki Sixx.
Plus, 21 perverts busted for soliciting underage sex in a major sting operation. "America`s Most Wanted`s" John Walsh will join me.
And from the Department of the Obvious, a ground-breaking new study says guys are attracted to hot women. No.
All this and more tonight.
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BECK: Well, hello, America. You know, in this country we love our personal freedom, but when it comes to personal responsibility, what? Responsibility? Not so much.
Senator Larry Craig may be the latest example of somebody who doesn`t want to deal with the consequences of his own actions. But he`s a long way from the first person to do it. So here`s the point tonight.
It doesn`t matter who you are. It doesn`t matter how much you have or what you do. If you want to dance, you got to pay the piper. Here`s how I got there.
Larry Craig got caught looking for love in all the wrong places. I mean, who would have thought a bathroom in an airport would be the wrong place? But then he pleaded guilty to it.
But now, he doesn`t have the stomach for the shame or the good answers for the tough questions. Here`s a reminder how the senator handled his fall from grace.
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SEN. LARRY CRAIG (R), IDAHO: I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis airport. I did nothing wrong, and I regret the decision to plead guilty.
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BECK: Yes, he probably should regret that one. Cry me a river here, Larry. Your being indignant doesn`t mean you`re innocent. My son isn`t a big fancy senator or anything. He`s got a 2-year-old`s understanding of the value of saying he`s sorry and meaning it.
What too many public offenders fail to realize is that Americans, the only thing they love more than sin is redemption, lessons learned from our mistakes. It builds character.
You know, you can`t make a giant comeback unless you first slip and fall. And if you don`t believe me, just ask Mel Gibson, Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan, the holy trinity of celebrity screw-ups.
But on the other side of that coin, are those who make a mistake and then own up to it and actually learn something about themselves in the process. You remember Hugh Grant?
I am far, far -- far, far, far -- from perfect. I`m on a different continent from perfect. I`ve screwed up in so many ways that were truly epic. But when I hit rock bottom back in my drinking days, it was the best thing that ever happened to me. It didn`t feel like it at the time, but I took the hit, because I had no choice. I learned what I could because I wanted the redemption. And in the end, it allowed me to revive my family, my career and my spirit.
I, for one, wouldn`t trade anything at my bottom for anything at the top, because I wouldn`t have one without the other.
So tonight, here`s what you need to know. Getting knocked down is easy. It happens to everybody. Getting up, that`s the hard part.
Somebody who knows exactly what I`m talking about is my next guest. This is one of the members of the most successful band of the 1980s. He lived the rock star life and nearly died from it, from hit singles to drug addiction. He`s written a brand new book that tells the tale. It`s called "The Heroin Diaries: A year in the Life of a Shattered Rock Star", Motley Crue`s Nikki Sixx.
Nikki, how are you, sir?
NIKKI SIXX, MUSICIAN/AUTHOR: How you doing?
BECK: I`m very good.
Heroin was one of your drugs of choice, and it`s kind of in the news this week, possibly, with Owen Wilson. Here`s a guy, like you. The public sees you`ve got everything going for you. What makes a guy do heroin?
SIXX: Well, you know, I think that your life experience, looking at that one year in my life, that was -- I was a heroin addict. But I was also a lot of things. You know, we`ve become human garbage cans, and we`ll take anything to fill up something. We don`t understand what that is.
Through getting this book together and through recovery myself and being able to go into therapy and look at a lot of things, I was able to go back to my childhood and go, you know what? I felt bad because my dad left. I felt bad because my mom left. I felt bad because I was shuffled all over the place. I ended up being a runaway, then being a homeless teenager. And I ended up trying to fill that hole with something.
And then when I got in Motley Crue, you know, it actually was really great, because I was making money. I was getting, you know, all that -- you know, love from the fans. But there was a period in `86, `87 when I just couldn`t fix it anymore.
BECK: Do you think it`s -- because I -- I talked to so many people. I just want to shake them. They -- they`re afraid to look into what it is that makes them drink. Because it`s not the -- it`s not the attraction to the drugs. It`s not the lifestyle of the drugs. At least, I don`t think it is for people who are doing it. Mostly, it is you`re trying to -- you`re trying to medicate yourself to not feel whatever it is you`re afraid of actually looking at.
Most people are afraid that they don`t -- they won`t find anything in there. Did you fear that? That there wasn`t anything in there or you didn`t want to look at the things that were bothering you?
SIXX: You know, I don`t know if you`ve had this experience, but there`s sort of an invisible line. And I don`t like to stand on a soapbox and say don`t drink, because I think that if you can drink successfully, you can have a glass of wine with dinner. You can do whatever you want.
BECK: Whatever.
SIXX: That`s fine. A lot of my friends drink. They come to my house, they have a glass of wine. They don`t even finish their glass of wine. I don`t get it. If I was them, I would have been four bottles of wine.
BECK: Can I tell you something? Because I`ve got to tell you how many people I`ve said, we`ll go out to dinner. They`ll have one drink. And I`ll say to them, "One drink? What is the point of one drink? Why bother? Why get started?"
SIXX: Exactly, I know. But that`s the addictive side of the personality. But you know, we hit an invisible line. We go over that invisible line and we don`t know we`re there.
So you know, I think a lot of times, you know, we -- we use so much. I see a lot of 18- to 24-year-old kids that are just pounding alcohol and drugs every single day. And they call it partying. They call it spring break. They call it, you know, just rocking out.
BECK: It`s -- it`s the same thing, though, isn`t it? Of just trying to fill -- I think the more we have, the less we have in many ways. There`s so many people that are just empty inside, and this -- drugs and alcohol just are filling it up.
SIXX: Yes. I mean, you know, there`s a reason that a lot of addicts are very successful, because we`re very creative people. And we do really outrageous things, behind drugs and alcohol. We do really outrageous, wonderful things without those in our life.
And I know, in my situation, all the greatest things I`ve done in my life have been when I was sober. And I`m a sober father. I`m a single father, you know, and I like to say I`m a single father, not a single rock star. There`s a big difference. And I really don`t want my kids to have the same experience that I had.
And you know, through this book, I think that there`s an opportunity to see what happens when you cross that line. You can also see what happens when you take care of it and get into recovery. And you can still be rock `n` roll. You can still be cool.
You can still be a great poet or an artist or a photographer, or you know, a government official, a business man. You know, you can achieve all these things. It`s -- it`s a farce. It`s just not true that you need that stuff to succeed.
BECK: It is -- it is one of the biggest lies. You`re afraid that you`re a success -- at least it happened with me. My success happened at the same time I was doing all the drugs, and I thought, "I won`t be successful without any of this. I can`t be that guy."
And it`s such a lie. It`s so holding you back. It`s just the opposite, once you clear whatever it was in your life, once you just deal with it and get it out of the way. I`m convinced the only thing that will kill you are the things that you just don`t deal with.
SIXX: That`s true. And, you know, I don`t know if you`ve experienced this, but when I went back and really dug in the past, I peeled the onion over and over, and I got to the core. It was -- it was bad. But you know what? It wasn`t that bad.
BECK: No.
SIXX: It wasn`t that bad. It was like that`s it? You know, you put it down on a piece of paper and you go, that`s what I`ve been killing myself over for 20 years?
BECK: I know. I looked at it like, there`s got to be more than that.
SIXX: There`d better be more than that. I know.
BECK: Nikki, thank you very much. We`ll look forward to your book.
Coming up, 21 men busted for soliciting sex with teens over the Internet. Now, we`ve got them, but what do we do to keep them behind bars? John Walsh, the host of "America`s Most Wanted", here next.
Breaking news: new study shows that men are attracted to hot women. Yes, I`ll repeat it. Men like hot women. I will try to explain in all those beautiful details, for several minutes, coming up in just a second.
Plus, Hillary Clinton`s facing tough questions about the origins of some of the campaign funds she`s received. Legit contributions or funny money? Tonight`s "Real Story".
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BECK: I don`t remember ever demanding, "Could you make the political season -- I don`t know -- four times as long? These guys are never going to be in Washington doing any work. They`re only going to be campaigning the whole time.
It`s like we`re going to vote in November, and I`ll bet you that, years down the road, by December they`ll start the next political campaign. And the guy hasn`t been sworn into office until January. On your first term, at the inaugural speech, there will be people in the crowds with signs that say "Four More Years".
I do have this announcement for you. Rafe is announcing that he`s running for president in 2071.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your son?
BECK: It`s weird.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What`s going to happen?
BECK: A lot of things are changing, dude (ph).
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BECK: The Internet is an amazing thing. It is -- it is something that is free. It is open. It allows you to connect with all kinds of people. The trouble is, if you`re a sexual predator, the Internet is free. It`s open and provides access to all kinds of people, including our children. Fortunately, this is a problem that`s getting more and more attention.
Today, New York police announced a major crackdown on the Internet pedophiles, and they hauled in 21 men accused of trying to solicit sex from teenagers.
Even television news shows are getting into the action. The NBC series "To Catch a Predator" has proved that exposing low-lives and the catch gets high ratings. But now many people have serious questions about the methods of that show.
One man who has been on the front lines to keep our children safe is the host of acclaimed "America`s Most Wanted", John Walsh.
Hello, John.
JOHN WALSH, "AMERICA`S MOST WANTED": Glenn, nice to see you.
BECK: You know, I was having a conversation with somebody yesterday, and we were talking about the guy in New York at Times Square that lured a 20- -- a 20-year-old in. He was wanted in two different states for touching 12-year-olds. He killed her, put her underneath the bed here in New York City over the weekend.
Now you`ve got these 21 guys that have just been busted. What is it going to take to keep these guys behind bars?
WALSH: Well, I think this awareness, you and I talking about it, and all this attention to pedophiles, particularly pedophiles and the Internet, has woken up legislators. It`s woken up judges. It`s woken up cops. And things are changing. You know, last year, President Bush signed the Adam Walsh Child Protection Law.
BECK: Is it being -- is it being implemented?
WALSH: Unfortunately, it`s -- first of all, the Justice Department said there`s 690,000 convicted sex offenders in the United States. Those are the convicted ones; 100,000 of them are in noncompliance.
The marshals are out there arresting these guys. The FBI is out there helping to look for them, but Congress hasn`t funded it yet.
I would assume when I stood in the Rose Garden next to members of both sides of the parties, Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate, that the Adam Walsh Child Protection Law would be funded, that we would be saddling up to go out and get these 100,000 guys.
So it hasn`t been funded, and -- but I think now the laws are changing. Most of these laws need to be implemented on a state -- on a state level. People are becoming aware. I don`t think they still have figured out how big the problem is.
Ten thousand pedophile priests. You and I talked about it one time. Ten thousand pedophile priests. I was raised in the Catholic Church. I went to Catholic boys` school, and now the final report comes out. The Los Angeles diocese almost went broke last month. "Los Angeles Times" (sic) settled $660 million worth of suits and payoff money and 25 pedophile priests in that -- in that diocese alone.
At least people are starting to say these creeps are out there; we need to keep them in jail longer.
BECK: But you know, there`s -- I don`t -- I don`t know of a soul that says that this isn`t a problem. Not a soul.
WALSH: Exactly.
BECK: And yet, you touch a 12-year-old, you`ll go to jail for three years.
WALSH: Yes.
BECK: What are we doing? What about one strike, you`re out? Forget about everything else. One strike, you`re out.
WALSH: I`m on the same side that you are. I can`t be objective. I`m the father of a murdered child, of a 6-year-old boy that was murdered.
We`re not talking about the guy that urinated at Mardi Gras. We`re not talking about the 17-year-old boy that had consensual sex with the 14- year-old girl and they know each other.
We`re talking about the serious, level 3 sex offender, like the guy we caught last week. Richard Goldberg was a molester for whole -- his whole life. The guy they`re going to put on the FBI`s ten most wanted tomorrow. Molested a child, got out of prison and molested again. Those are the guys that need to be in jail for a long time.
I think people have got to wake up and say I`m fed up with it, I`m sick of it, but I want to see the laws change.
BECK: And I think we are -- are saying that. But it`s getting -- it`s only getting more complicated. This guy in California, Jack McClellan, what do you do with him?
WALSH: I think that we know who he is now. You know, I`ve talked to literally thousands of victims of Catholic priests, when we never used to talk about it, Glenn. When they used to transfer them from parish to parish and move them around from state to state.
At least with this open dialog, with the mandate that there be a sex offender registry in every state and that they exchange information with the FBI and getting the funding that needs to be there for the Adam Walsh Child Protection Law, at least we can track creeps like this. At least we`re aware of them.
BECK: But I don`t want to get into -- look, did you see the movie "Minority Report" with Tom Cruise?
WALSH: No, I didn`t.
BECK: OK. Well, it`s future crimes, and it`s in the future and they can just sense that, you know, you`re going to commit this crime.
We pretty much know the intent of Jack McClellan, and I don`t want to get into future crime stuff and thought police, but there`s got to be a way to pull this guy off the street. There`s got -- isn`t there anything that you can do to say -- to you even say you can`t -- we can`t scream fire in a crowded movie theater. Why can we say, "There are the hot kids over there"?
WALSH: Yes, well, you and I both live in a country where we have freedom of press, where we have freedom of religion. And I don`t believe you take the law into your own hands, and I don`t believe that you arrest somebody because of what they say.
But I do know one thing: that pedophiles are incurable. The psychiatric community says that, now that they haven`t figured out a way we should be studying them.
And I say this guy is probably a ticking time bomb, if he hasn`t molested already, and has been lucky enough to not be caught, like the vast majority of them.
When they do pedophile studies, the guys will say -- you know, they tracked 500 pedophiles in Georgia, at Emory University. Those guys admitted to about -- I forget exactly the figure, 35,000 molestations over their life. But they said they hadn`t been caught for 90 percent of them.
BECK: It is...
WALSH: So this guy is a ticking time bomb. I think people -- I think it`s a good thing we`re talking about him, and people -- and he`s dumb enough to love the publicity. Somebody is going to get him someday.
BECK: John, as always, a pleasure, sir.
WALSH: Thank you, Glenn.
BECK: New season of "America`s Most Wanted" starts this Saturday. Back in a minute.
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BECK: All right. I`m about to break some news here so put the Cheetos down for just a second and listen. Here goes.
According to scientists, men like hot women. No, I know. I know it`s a shock. Take a deep breath. Let it just wash over you for a second.
See? Like, I like that. That`s OK with me.
New study on speed daters show that men pick their dates pretty much on looks alone, while women actually consider other things: personality, wealth, family. Whatever.
I`m not actually sure I buy into this. I -- I don`t think men are really that discriminating, a lot of them. I think it`s more like, you know, whatever`s available. Larry Craig. Bathroom, you know what I`m saying? More often, a mammal will do for a lot of guys.
Steve Sanigoty, he is the "New York Times" best selling author of "The Manual" and a relationship expert.
Come as shock to you that men like hot women?
STEVE SANIGOTY, AUTHOR, "THE MANUAL": I was appalled.
BECK: Yes, me too.
SANIGOTY: How shallow. You know, the funny thing is women are no different than us. It`s just that they`re more forgiving.
BECK: No, that`s not true. I get as many women as you get and look at me.
SANIGOTY: No...
BECK: No, not true.
SANIGOTY: My point is that women are just as shallow. Women are always saying, I want someone to love me for my inside. And I go, "Well, I`ll introduce you to a guy. He`s hairy and fat and weighs 360 pounds, you know, and he`ll be committed and romantic." And they don`t want to date him. So they`re just as bad.
BECK: Yes, but they`re not -- look. I mean, here`s the thing. How come there`s not an epidemic of women in the bathroom stalls of airports?
SANIGOTY: Because -- because guys are so visual, I don`t know. That`s - I wish there were. I wish there were more women...
BECK: Can`t be visual in the bathroom. I don`t want to have any senses while I`m in the bathroom.
SANIGOTY: All those -- all those -- all those delayed flights would take on a whole new meaning if women were in the bathroom stalls. But -- let`s stay -- I digress. Let`s stick to the point here. Which is, OK. Why are women -- guys are going to always like attractive women. It`s genetically programmed into us.
Women have genetically -- things genetically programmed to them, as well. They want a dominant, masculine man. That`s the end of the day. And so, that comes in a lot more packages than a girl with curves.
BECK: Just speaking generally, because, I believe that a good relationship isn`t based on any of this stuff, quite honestly; it`s what gets you to a good relationship. What, you disagree with that?
SANIGOTY: Yes, well, it will attract you. The bottom line is, looks...
BECK: It will attract you, right.
SANIGOTY: But if a woman doesn`t take care of herself, it`s going to reflect in a lot of other aspects of the relationship. That`s just how it goes.
BECK: She`s out. Oh, she`s out. Yes. But generally speaking, a woman could be poor, stupid as a box of rocks, but hot, and she`ll find herself a rich man.
SANIGOTY: True.
BECK: A guy, rich, and, like, disfigured by battery acid, and he`ll be with that stupid hot blond.
SANIGOTY: Absolutely.
BECK: They`re a match made in heaven.
SANIGOTY: Absolutely. And you know what? They deserve each other. Technically, gold diggers and the guys that will date them, they`re a perfect match.
BECK: So, have you ever noticed that guys, I mean, if a guy looks like you. I mean, you know, when you get up, and you`re like, "Oh, gee, I wonder who will be attracted to me?" Me, a guy looking like me, it`s a different story.
But have you ever noticed that really ugly men still, they don`t -- they`ll just go and they`ll just walk right up to a hot woman and be like, "Hey, I mean, hey, how about a little piece of this?"
SANIGOTY: Let me get -- I want to answer. I want to go back once again. Because you keep saying these things about yourself, self- deprecating, if you will. First of all...
BECK: It works. Chicks dig it.
SANIGOTY: It does work, because you`re funny. And women are going to find you a turn on...
BECK: Yes.
SANIGOTY: ... much faster than any good looking guy out here, because you`re funny and charismatic.
BECK: He`s right. He`s right.
SANIGOTY: That`s fact. That`s fact.
BECK: I know.
SANIGOTY: "Maxim" magazine did a report about it.
BECK: See. I didn`t know they did a story about me being funny. But he`s right, ladies.
SANIGOTY: Yes, there you go.
BECK: Steve, thanks.
Up next, why God`s love for Iowa may lead to changes in our primary process. Don`t miss tonight`s explanation in "The Real Story". It`s next.
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BECK: A 30-something-year-old guy has sex with a 12-year-old minor. He serves his three years. Now, he`s out of prison, and he`s just been charged with murdering a woman in New York. One strike and you`re out. More on that story in just a minute.
But first, welcome to the "Real Story." Yesterday, I told you about the alleged hijacker of a secure Pentagon computer network that was none other than the People`s Liberation Army of China. Of course, you know, they deny having anything to do with it. But now circumstantial evidence is starting to pile up, as the "Guardian" newspaper reports today that Chinese hackers may also have been responsible for a little attack against the networks of the British Parliament and Foreign Office. China, what`s up?
Tomorrow, I`m going to tie it all together for you, and I`m going to tell you about another attack I bet you you`ve never heard of, in where someone remotely gained access, almost full control, of a nuclear power plant here in the U.S. Unfortunately for us, the software that attacker exploited still used to control critical infrastructure all across our country, and we may still be vulnerable to attack. That is tomorrow.
But today, let`s just pretend that foreign governments aren`t hacking into our networks and distract ourselves with politics instead.
The Republicans are debating, again, tonight. I believe the most important issue of this entire campaign, however, isn`t even going to be discussed on the stage. The "Real Story" is that the key to the entire `08 nomination just might rest with whoever wins a cutthroat game of primary leapfrog that is being played out right now. In the game, the players are the state delegations. The object is apparently to be the first one with the earliest possible primary election date.
Florida made an earlier bid for the title, moving their primaries to January 29th. Then Wyoming responded, moving theirs to January 5th. I mean, I don`t even know -- I don`t have my tree down by the 5th of January. Michigan then retaliated by moving their primary up to January 15th. A dozen other states have already scheduled their primaries to be earlier than February 5th.
Aside from the novelty factor of, "Look at me, I`m first," there doesn`t really seem to be a whole lot of solid rationale behind any of this. For example, here`s New Mexico`s governor, Bill Richardson, trying to make the case for the first primary to actually be in Iowa.
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GOV. BILL RICHARDSON (D), NEW MEXICO: Iowa, for good reason, for constitutional reasons, for reasons related to the Lord, should be the first caucus and primary!
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BECK: Related to the Lord? I mean, really? Can you imagine Mitt Romney if he would have say that? I`m a pretty big Christian kind of guy, but I don`t think God actually cares whether Iowa holds their primaries first or not, especially, you know, how busy he is considering the whole return of his son thing, but that`s a different story.
However, there are actually a few good reasons why you should care about any of this. First, early primaries probably hurt lesser-known candidates the most because it doesn`t give them as much time to raise money or get their names out there. In fact, people like Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton probably would have never become the nominee if this schedule were in place.
Second, the whole debacle -- hello, Democrats? It may actually end up helping Republicans when it comes to the general election, and here`s why. Democrats made a pledge over the weekend to avoid campaigning in states like Florida that violated party rules for moving their primaries up. I mean, good thing for Florida. They`re politicians, so they`re not going to keep their word, most likely, but Republicans have gone the other way, deciding in some cases that they`re going to campaign even harder in those states, because it may end up being winner-take-all.
It doesn`t take an election consultant to figure out that the extra face time may actually help the Republicans win next November, but no one seems to be talking about who`s losing in all of this: us, the voters.
John Fund is an editorial writer for "The Wall Street Journal." John, worst-case scenario, we could have primaries before Christmas.
JOHN FUND, "WALL STREET JOURNAL": Trick-or-treating this year might feature candidates rather than hobgoblins.
BECK: How did all of this start? When did we start running -- have you noticed most of these people, I don`t think they even have jobs anymore. They`re full-time campaigners. When did this start?
FUND: I don`t know how you serve as a U.S. senator, which is a full- time job, and also campaign full-time for president. It`s beyond me.
BECK: Of course, that might be a good thing to keep them out on the road and away from doing business.
FUND: I agree. You know, the less money they spend, the less time in Washington. But seriously, I think it started with primary envy. Iowa and New Hampshire have got a cozy little business going where, every four years, journalists and candidates keep pouring in, and they bring lots of money, lots of attention, more attention than the states normally get. In New Hampshire, there`s one television station, Glenn. Every four years, they open up a new wing, and they call that wing the 1996 wing, that wing the 2000 wing. I mean, all of the ad money that comes in.
BECK: I have to tell you, what frightens me about this whole election season is we keep moving it closer and closer to the last election. It becomes longer and longer. Nothing becomes about really doing anything or real, new ideas. It becomes about constant positioning.
FUND: Constant campaigning. We don`t govern anymore. In fact, it used to be that a president would have a year or two before they`d have to worry about running for re-election. Now, literally, with the constant campaign, the permanent campaign, you`re always in campaign mode. That means things like Social Security reform were immediately dumped because they couldn`t get momentum within two or three months after they were announced. It makes you wonder how in the world we`re ever going to solve our problems if all we do is campaign.
BECK: Be cynical for a second. Who is this going to -- is there any candidate -- Clinton comes to mind, because this would be something that would really help Hillary Clinton -- is there any candidate that was really behind moving these primaries up?
FUND: No.
BECK: So it was just really the states just saying, "I want to be first"? Oh, just as bad, it`s all about money?
FUND: Look, I favor a decentralized federalist system, but I also think that, after this election, the two parties are going to get together. They`re going to have separate commissions formed and they`re going to create some order out of this chaos, because we cannot have this go on. Imagine, we`re going to have our nominees effectively decided in early February. That`s nine or ten months before the rest of the electorate votes on who`s going to be president.
BECK: How is that possible for Fred Thompson? I mean, Fred Thompson announces tomorrow. How is that possible that he can make up this much ground?
FUND: Because most people don`t pay any attention to this. You and I do. We`re interested in politics.
BECK: Not really.
FUND: But, remember, over 50 percent of people in the key primary states make up their mind in the last week. In some cases, it`s two- thirds. In some states, 19 percent, 25 percent make it up on Election Day. So a candidate, if they can get their message out, the key for them is the last few days, not now. Now they have to build up an organization. Now they have to raise money. So there`s time for anyone to still win, but it does help the frontrunners in these early primary states.
BECK: I got to tell you, you know, you don`t make it -- I go stand in the voting booth, and I swear to you, to me it`s like playing Russian roulette. John, thanks a lot.
Now, two things that get politics into more trouble than anything else: sex and money. Media prefers a story where they`re combined, but quite honestly we`ll take either one of them on this program. Now, things will get a little tricky, a little dicey when two stories happen simultaneously, if one is about sex and the other is just about money, sex wins every single time. And that is exactly the scenario that occurred last week. But should it have?
While the media was feasting on the bones of Larry Craig`s little "Penthouse" forum moment, another scandal, this one involving some Democrats and their campaign donations, was almost completely ignored by the mainstream media. What a surprise there, huh?
Emmett Tyrrell, Jr., is the founder and editor-in-chief of the "American Spectator" and the author of "The Clinton Crackup." You`ve been following this scandal. Why is this a huge scandal?
R. EMMETT TYRRELL, "AMERICAN SPECTATOR": Well, you know, this is what the Clintons would call "old news," but it`s old news because campaign finance violations with shadowy, Asian figures have been going back with the Clintons all the way back to 1986. I mean, this is chapter five of my book. There`s been one figure after another.
In `96, you had half a dozen shadowy Asian figures, and now you, of course, have Norman Hsu reported to have been dispersing as much as a million dollars to Clinton people, to other Democrats. And it turns out we`ve now discovered he doesn`t even have an address. His home address was a New York public library, and he`s on the lam again.
BECK: OK, where does he -- where does he get his money? Where is this money coming from?
TYRRELL: Well, we don`t know. He was supposed to appear -- he put up $2 million -- at the end of last week, the week in which the story wasn`t reported, as you quite incisively point out, at the end of the week, it was discovered even worse. Not only is he dispersing money that apparent is increate, but the money -- he`s been on the lam since 1992. So he appears up at a San Francisco courthouse, and the San Francisco courthouse, he posts $2 million bail, and today, this very day, was supposed to appear in the courthouse once again, and he skipped bail. He`s out on the lam once again.
BECK: All right. Tell me about the -- do you have anything on this Pakistani -- I read something last week about a guy who is a Pakistani national, he also gave money to the Clinton campaign, and then he disappeared. Do you know anything about that? Or is that true at all?
TYRRELL: No, I only know about the Indian that disappeared. There was an Indian that gave money. I don`t know if he`s disappeared. But the Clintons have been tied up in the last six weeks with at least two people fighting felony charges, one a convicted felon.
BECK: OK. This is kind of -- the reason why this is bad, let`s just say all of this is innocent, which I find that hard to believe, this just brings back -- I mean, I immediately thought of the monks. I immediately thought of, what was the other guy back in the `90s that was funneling money from the Chinese army?
TYRRELL: Chinese military, Johnny Chung. And he was dealing with Chinese military intelligence. Again, it`s chapter five of "The Clinton Crackup." It`s all over the book.
BECK: OK. I don`t know, I don`t know if anybody else feels this way, this is why I`d like to stop the Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush thing, maybe next time around. Bundling, is this illegal? Bundling is just when they take -- they`ve got one guy who was a postal worker making $46,000 a year, and he gave I think $200,000 in donations. That`s just people just gathering a bunch of money and spreading it out, right?
TYRRELL: Yes, and Hsu was the man that worked with him on this, Hsu the man without a home.
BECK: Is it illegal?
TYRRELL: It`s very much illegal now, as of the 2002 campaign finance law, it`s very much illegal. And the Paw family, another Chinese-American family, in this case Chinese-born, they are facing serious investigations.
BECK: OK, Emmett, thank you very much.
Coming up a little later on the program, the Air Force sends a B-52 on an atomic road trip across the Midwest. Too bad no one knew the plane was actually carrying live nukes. Yes.
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BECK: You know, like the old -- my bakery, my dad`s bakery, when you`d open up the door, it had a little bell. Sometimes you`ll open up a door and it will -- it will, you know, make some sound. So they know, when you come into an Apple store, it should just say, "Buy a new one. Buy a new one. Hey, dummy, buy a new one." You know what? I think they think that we don`t have any memory. They don`t realize that we`re screwing them every time they walk through the door. "Buy a new one. Buy a new one."
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BECK: I am a parent of four children, and you don`t have to be a parent to be sick and tired of these sex offenders and scratch your head and say, "What the heck are we doing?" Time and time again, we see these guys showing up as repeat offenders. And every time we say the same thing. The latest tragedy happened in a Times Square hotel in New York City. A maid went in to clean the room. She found a woman stuffed underneath a bed. She had been beaten and strangled to death and then jammed into black garbage bags.
Thirty-five-year-old Clarence Dean now charged with second-degree murder. He was first arrested in the mid-1990s for raping a 12-year-old girl. He is listed as a sex offender for crimes, plural, involving minors, plural, in Florida and Alabama. He had a warrant out for his arrest in Alabama for failing to register as a sex offender. His defense? Oh, well, in this case, he told the detectives he was a scapegoat. You know, this killing thing, he didn`t do it. He was just a scapegoat because of his past arrests for sex crimes.
Wendy Murphy is back for a further conversation of this. This guy they think now is responsible for raping a girl in Alabama at a college university this year. At what point do we say we`re in the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?
WENDY MURPHY, FORMER PROSECUTOR: Look, I guarantee you, the guy has got a longer list of victims than just the ones you mentioned, because that`s what predators do. They keep going. They keep hunting. And the saddest thing is, they pick on the social undesirables, the people who`ve had tough luck in their lives, the prostituted women, the kids whose parents aren`t paying attention or are drug addicts. And that`s one of the secrets, dirty, little secrets, that predators prey on the vulnerable people, and they hope they get away with it. And this guy did.
And you know what, Glenn? I don`t have the answer, except what I can tell you is it`s enough now. We have had how many stories where we look back and go, "All the red flags were there"? Now, with hindsight, we can tell we should have grabbed him. When does hindsight become foresight?
BECK: But, you know, Wendy, I have to tell you something. This kills me, because we`re doing the same thing with Islamic terror. Another hit is coming. And when it does, everybody will say, "What did you know and when did you know?" We`ve known it the whole time! Where is the disconnect from the people that we talk to on television every night, who I know feel as passionately as I do about the border, about child molesters, about terror, about our budget being out of control, all of these things, and yet nothing happens? Where is the disconnect?
MURPHY: You know, look, it`s cheaper and easier, and it sure feels a lot better to cover our eyes and stick our fingers in our ears, Glenn. That`s the sad truth. We hope against hope that these predators will go away or drop dead or overdose. And you know what? They don`t go away. They go hunting.
And as they`re hunting for their next victim, the next child, the next vulnerable woman, we should be hunting for them. But we don`t spend the resources because we don`t have the leadership or the political will, because people don`t care enough. And what are those leaders going to say when another child gets raped by yet another guy like this? What are we going to say to the parents of that child? "Oh, sorry, we didn`t think your child`s life was worth the money"? I don`t know.
BECK: I have to tell you, I have John Walsh on the program tomorrow, I want to talk to him about this very thing. I just don`t know what it`s going to take. You know, we have Jack McClellan, the guy with the hat, the creepy guy in California, and he`s out, and he`s saying, "Hey, I love little girls. Look at me. I love little girls." And the argument becomes, "Well, can he say this? It`s like screaming fire in a theater. Can he do it or not?" This guy, the guy who just brutally murdered this 20-year-old girl, he had already done stuff. We just didn`t hang onto him.
MURPHY: And you know what? We could have grabbed this guy for the probation violations, for not registering. And we don`t think those kinds of crimes are serious enough. Just like the loser prosecutor in California with McClellan didn`t stick with the trespassing charge. OK, trespassing isn`t the most serious crime. But for guys like this, you get them on anything, like Al Capone. You couldn`t get him on murder; you get him on taxes. Anything at all is better than nothing.
BECK: Were you -- when I saw this story, the one thing that I saw was, the way he brutally murdered this girl, and then he put her in a garbage bag, and then jammed her body underneath a bed. You know what jumped out at me? And maybe I`m wrong. I`m not a psychiatrist, but, you know, I am a thinker. What jumped out at me is, it was almost -- I don`t know, the act of hiding it and jamming it under the bed and putting it into garbage bags, the guy knew he wasn`t going to get away with it. It was almost like he hated her because she brings something out in him. Is that at all possible that this is how they`ve just twisted this in their heads?
MURPHY: There`s no question that there`s a sickness there, but there`s evil, too. And I don`t care if it`s sick or evil; I still think he should be off the street.
BECK: Oh, yes. No, no.
MURPHY: But you know what, Glenn? You point out something important. We do know how to identify the most dangerous people by asking the right questions, by the psychologist with the right degrees and the right expertise. They could have found out this guy was likely to do this, and he shouldn`t have been able to get away with it.
BECK: Thanks, Wendy. We`ll talk to you again.
Now, I personally believe sentences for sex offenders a little too weak. As far as I`m concerned, one strike and you`re out. Where am I wrong? Go to CNN.com/Glenn and cast your vote. Let me know whether you agree or disagree. By the way, if you disagree, please leave your address. We`ll send the cars right over.
Up next, did you hear the one about the B-52 that flew three hours over the Midwest with a bunch of nukes strapped to its wings? Yes, yes, they didn`t know they were there. Details on the Pentagon`s lost flight, back in a minute.
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BECK: Well, earlier today, military officials confirmed that six 150- kiloton nuclear warheads attached to cruise missiles mistakenly carried aboard a flight last week between North Dakota and Louisiana. Oops. Flight crew completely unaware that they were carrying live nuclear weapons, and the mistake wasn`t discovered until after the plane landed. Officials admitted that the incident was a colossal breach of the security rules surrounding nuclear weapons -- you think so? -- but wanted to reassure us that at no point was the public in any real danger. Oh, thank goodness. I feel a whole lot better now.
The Air Force has promised a full investigation and has already reprimanded several people involved. I personally think that everybody`s overreacting, you know? I mean, it`s not like the plane exploded and hundreds of thousands of innocent people were just vaporized. Plus, these nukes just don`t blow themselves up on their own. There`s like a three- step process to detonating one of these babies. I, for one, think the whole thing is getting blown out of proportion, which is probably a bad choice of words in this story, but the nukes weren`t actually missing. We just didn`t know where they were.
That`s it. I mean, look. Take a look. Here it is, Minot, North Dakota, there are the nukes, OK? When the Air Force base and the planes take off, the nukes were right there on the plane, right here. Let me repeat. Nukes, not missing. They were on the plane. Now, here`s the path. The plane took first to South Dakota. And even if something did no wrong, I mean, what is it, North and South Dakota, what, 10 people live there?
Then they crossed into Nebraska, would have been a shame there. A lot of good people in Nebraska, but good news? Meal and beverage service would have ended, and the in-flight movie would have begun right about this area. There are unconfirmed reports that the film that was offered was "Music and Lyrics," which, frankly, I enjoyed when I saw it in the theater, while I don`t think there was a lot of on-screen chemistry between Hugh Grant and Drew Barrymore, I do think they both gave excellent performances. But I digress.
OK, so the plane then proceeded over Kansas. This is where I admit things get a little rocky. Over these populated regions right here, you know, it could get dicey. Here`s Tulsa, where I can be heard on 1170 KFAQ. Now, if the nukes would have blown here, I would have lost a lot of loyal fans, and I would have felt bad about that. But the nukes safety touched down right here in Louisiana.
See? We knew where they were the whole time, right on the plane. There it is.
Don`t forget, if you want to know what`s on tomorrow`s show or if you`d like to hear a little bit more in-depth commentary on the news of the day, you can sign up for my absolutely free daily e-mail newsletter at glennbeck.com. From New York, good night.
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