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Power Plant Fire; Bush Vetoes SCHIP; Uncovering America; Gerri's Top Tips; Manhunt Continues for Sexual Predator; Giuliani's Tough Stance on Immigration
Aired October 03, 2007 - 10:00 ET
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TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: And why did their fathers, sons, and brothers die? Relatives of the miners killed in Utah this summer speaking out this Wednesday, October 3rd. You are in the CNN NEWSROOM.
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Trapped underground. A chemical fire at a power plant. Five workers dead this morning. Chris Lawrence is on the scene in Georgetown, Colorado, this morning.
Chris, what does the investigation stand to gain this hour?
CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, right now, Heidi, they're trying to still identify these men and figure out exactly what started that fire down about 1,000 feet deep into the tunnel.
Now we know that this plant is run by a company called Xcel. That it was built about 40 years ago. But that these men actually were contractors from another company who were brought in to do routine maintenance. The plant itself was shut down yesterday for that maintenance and this team of men went into that tunnel basically to apply an epoxy that would prevent corrosion in the water tunnel. They were in a water tunnel probably no more than four feet in diameter. At about 2:00 in the afternoon, that fire broke out.
Now, initially, some of the rescue crews had thought about going in from the top and repelling down to where the men were, but they decided against it because they would have had to climb back up about 1,000 feet with these men who may have been injured. So that was a reason. They had other reasons as well not to go in from the top.
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TOM HENLEY, XCEL ENERGY SPOKESMAN: They made the determination pretty early on that because of the fire in the area and because of what they may not have known about the air quality, that they would go in from the ground. They had to determine, first of all, if the fire was out. So they spent in specialized crews from the Henderson Mine, which is up here, and we're very grateful for their participation as well, as all the other entities.
And they went in there to see if the fire was out and they had determined at that point, I believe, that the fire extinguished itself. Determined the air quality was good. And we were going to be able to send people in from up top, but they weren't able to clear out the air quickly enough to get the crews in from the top. So they decided to go from the bottom.
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LAWRENCE: Yes, and about 45 minutes after the fire, they started shooting the clean air straight down into the tunnel. And at that point they had still had radio contact with these five men. The men said no one was hurt at that time. Now the big question is, what happened from that point, 45 minutes after the fire, to the time overnight when the rescue teams found those five bodies inside the tunnel.
Heidi.
COLLINS: Yes. All right. Still lots of questions, obviously.
Chris Lawrence from Georgetown in Colorado this morning.
Thanks, Chris.
HARRIS: Well, the president makes good on a promise. Moments ago he vetoed a bill to expand the children's health insurance program. Why did the president veto this legislation? What happens next? Let's take those questions to Capitol Hill and our congressional correspondent Dana Bash.
Dana, good to see you.
DANA BASH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You too.
HARRIS: The first question. Why did the president, for folks who are just joining us and catching up on the story, veto this legislation?
BASH: Well, the reason the president says that he vetoed it is because he sees what this legislation is. It's an expansion of the children's health care program. He sees it as the beginning of an expansion unnecessarily of government-run health care. And from the president's perspective, and the perspective of some Republicans here on Capitol Hill, they think that is best left to the private sector, not to the government, to give any American health care, but specifically to expand this children's health care program to more children even into those who may be perceived to be in the middle class.
However, what the president is up against is a lot of members in his own party, Tony, who adamantly support the expansion of this health care bill. They have joined hands with Democrats. And so what you are going to see now is very intense lobbying efforts. It's actually already going on to try to get the votes to override the president's veto.
So that bill is going to come back here to Congress. And what's going to happen is there's going to be a royal battle in the House of Representatives. Democrats trying to pick off enough Republicans to override the veto.
HARRIS: Yes. So, Dana, it's not over for this legislation?
BASH: Not even close. This is a galactic battle between Democrats in Congress and the president. And it is going to be potentially -- you know, every vote matters here, but what is going to be very interesting is to watch Democrats run as against some of these Republicans, pressure them behind the scenes in every way they can find.
Because what they need here is just about 15 votes, Tony, to override the president's veto. They're hoping to get some -- a few Democrats who voted no last time to vote yes. But, you know, you talk to Republicans here, they admit full well, this is a very, very hard position to take, to oppose this kind of legislation.
And Democrats are certainly not making it easy for them. We saw the lobbying push that they had publicly last week and it's going to continue on the air, in private. It's going to be certainly an interesting thing to watch. And also this vote is not going to happen until at least next week in order to give Democrats more time to have that lobbying.
HARRIS: OK. Our congressional correspondent Dana Bash for us.
Dana, thank you.
BASH: Thank you.
HARRIS: Well, polls show popular support for expanding health insurance for children. Results from an ABC News/"Washington Post" poll conducted just a few days ago. Seventy-two percent of those surveyed said they favor an increase in spending on the program. Twenty-five percent said they were opposed.
COLLINS: Protests planned outside a Panama City, Florida, courthouse. Seven former boot camp guards and a camp nurse go on trial this hour. They are charged with aggravated manslaughter in the 2006 death of 14-year-old Martin Anderson.
We're seeing some live pictures now inside the courtroom there on the left of your screen. Surveillance video on the right of your screen shows instructors kneeing and punching the teenager while the nurse looks on. The boy had collapsed earlier, but his drill instructors thought he was faking fatigue. Most of those instructors were white. Anderson was black. The NAACP protesting the selection of an all-white jury.
The Michael Vick dogfighting case also back in court today. This time it's the state's turn. Lawyers for Vick expected at the hearing. Vick faces state charges of beating or killing a dog and endangering in or promoting dogfighting. He has already pleaded guilty to the federal charges. Vick is not expected in court today, but he did attend a recent class on preventing animal cruelty. It was taught by PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. A PETA spokesman says Vick was attentive, asked questions, and took notes during the eight-hour class. HARRIS: Nuclear diplomacy apparently paying off this morning. Two top administration officials telling CNN, North Korea has agreed to disable a nuclear facility by the end of the year. The deal worked out late last month during six party talks in Beijing. The facility in Yongbyon (ph) was shut down and sealed over the summer. Now the U.S. will be in charge of making sure North Korea really does disabled its bomb-making abilities there as promised. A U.S. team is expected to head to North Korea next week.
COLLINS: Exclusive images for you this morning showing a brutal crackdown on protesters in Myanmar. A caution, some of these pictures might be disturbing to you. Witnesses risked their lives to smuggle these pictures out of the isolated country. They show soldiers attacking pro-democracy demonstrators in the streets. The video is at least two days old now. But today the acting U.S. ambassador reports military police are hunting protesters, pulling them from their homes and taking them away. Witnesses telling CNN, the military regime's campaign of intimidation is intensifying, but many say they will not back down.
Want to tell you more now about the isolated country of Myanmar. The nation's leaders now call it Myanmar, but other countries and officials still refer to it as Burma. The military's been in control since 1962. The current regime came into power in 1988 after defeating a pro-democracy movement. That democratic push was crushed in a crackdown that left at least 3,000 people dead. In 1989, the National League for Democracy won the country's first free multiparty elections in 30 years. But the generals refused to give up power. Human rights activists Aung San Suu Kyi is the head of that party. She's been held in detention now for 12 of the 18 past years.
HARRIS: Well, a search for a registered sex offender intensifying this morning. Police say Bill Mitchell abducted a 15- year-old girl he met on the Internet. Alyssa Frank was found yesterday at a Wal-Mart. Police say Mitchell apparently took the girl to the store to "dump her." Mitchell is believed to be driving a 2000 model black Chevrolet Lumina, Florida tag number G025EL. At the bottom of the hour, are authorities getting any new tips or leads? We will talk with the Florida sheriff leading the investigation.
An initial autopsy inconclusive. New information today about airline passenger Carol Anne Gotbaum. She died in police custody at a Phoenix Airport. Toxicology tests may tell more, but results are weeks away. Authorities say Gotbaum was not allowed to board her plane after arriving late at the gate. Police say she became angry and they handcuffed her. Police believe she lost consciousness while trying to get out of the handcuffs in her holding cell. A police officer says officers followed established policy in detaining the woman.
COLLINS: Convenience store combat caught on tape. A gas station attendant goes up against a robber. Authorities say the thief was armed with a broken pool cue and a knife. The clerk tried at first to fend off the robber with a broom. You can see it all here. At one point the two are going at it hand-to-hand. The robber eventually drops the pool cue and breaks out through a locked door. He got away with $165. The story attendant was not hurt.
HARRIS: And still ahead in the CNN NEWSROOM this morning, after the storm, suspected tornadoes leave damaged buildings and downed trees in the heartland.
COLLINS: Also, federal bureaucrats flying in the lap of luxury? Most are supposed to travel coach, but many are upgrading on taxpayer dollars.
HARRIS: And walking in their shoes. Immigrant day laborers on the street corner. Uncovering America in the NEWSROOM.
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COLLINS: You are in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Heidi Collins.
Taking an immigration stand at the cheesecake -- excuse me, that's cheese steak stand.
HARRIS: What are you thinking, Heidi?
COLLINS: I prefer cheesecake. Politics on the menu for Rudy Giuliani. What he had to say about people who want to become U.S. citizens.
HARRIS: And I'm Tony Harris.
Not a meter maid. Police say a man made off with meters. One hundred twenty-three of them. Let's see 25 cents times 123 times -- how many quarters can you get in those things anyway? Park yourself with us for the story coming up for you in the CNN NEWSROOM.
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HARRIS: New developments this morning in the case of an Ohio mother. Just disturbing all the way through. Accused of drowning her two daughters in a bathtub. Bail set at $2 million for 22-year-old Amber Hill. She spent the night in jail on suicide watch and was in court this morning. The father of her two and four-year-old girls speaking out.
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JAMIE CINTRON, FATHER OF DROWNED GIRLS: She did that to them. She should pay for it. She had no reason to take their lives. They didn't do nothing to deserve this. They were just innocent little girls.
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HARRIS: The father and police still trying to figure out why this happened. The funeral for the girls is scheduled for Saturday.
COLLINS: Thousands of immigrants gathering daily on street corners hoping for work as a day laborer. CNN's Rick Sanchez goes undercover to uncover America. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice over): You see the guy in the hat? The blue shirt? The jeans? Carrying a bag over his shoulder? That's me in Palisades Park, New Jersey, trying to blend in with the scores of day labors looking for work.
My goal is to try and mingle in with one of the thousands of groups of day laborers that assemble all over the country on street corners just to try and make a buck. There's a camera that's hidden right there. There's a microphone right here. My goal is to walk in their shoes, to tell this story, their story, from the inside out.
It is 7:00 a.m. and the waiting has begun. These guys are hoping for a job. Any job. Sheetrock, gardening, moving. I approach them as Ricardo Sanchez, my birth name. Speak to them in Spanish. I tell them I'm Cuban. I ask them how it's going. Then I ask, this is where you wait? What do you tell somebody who possibly wants to give you a job?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): "You ask how much they're paying."
SANCHEZ: I wondered if he asked in English?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): Yes, in English. Mostly in English.
SANCHEZ: I ask him, what specifically do you say? I mean, what do you ask?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): Because I can't speak English, it gets complicated for me sometimes too.
SANCHEZ: What I want to know is, how do you know when someone's going to give you work? Do they signal?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): Yes, a signal.
SANCHEZ: So I ask him, what, they say listen, come over here and then they talk to you? And then, what, you negotiate?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): Of course.
SANCHEZ: Sometimes they don't want to pay?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): Yes. Sometimes they don't pay.
SANCHEZ: It's amazing. These guys can spend all day standing on these street corners and they're lucky, lucky if they get two jobs a week. The rest of their time is filled waiting and hoping. But they have to be here, they say, to feed their families and pay the rent. By the way, the going rate is about $90 a day. If it's a smaller job, they try and get $9 to $10 an hour. I ask him how much he charges.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): Well, it depends. Whoever goes for $10, goes for $10. Me, I don't go for $10.
SANCHEZ: He says the pay should be daily and he shoots for $100 a day. The last thing these guys need is more competition, yet they welcome me, and even try and give me a lesson on how to negotiate.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): How much do you charge per hour up front? How many hours are you giving me? It's ten hours, $100. No, eight hours is $100 if you like it.
SANCHEZ: After four hours, I saw few job offers. This homeowner need his furniture moved. I walked the 20 minutes to his apartment for a job that paid only $9 an hour. Unfortunately, it was only about an hour's worth of work.
By the way, only one of these workers noticed that I wasn't the reel deal. He knew I just didn't quite fit in. But even then, his honesty both surprised and saddened me. He tells me all he wants to do is work.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): Of course, supposedly that's what it is. All it is. You want to work for, at least as far as I go. If I can work for at least a year straight, then what am I going to be in this country for? I'd rather be in my country. All you get in this country is bitterness and sadness and loneliness.
SANCHEZ: But he tells me he needs the money.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): Of course, that's true. The first place is, that's the money. That's why we come.
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COLLINS: Check out cnn.com special online report, "The Hispanic Experience Today." Read about the real issues facing the Latino community and significant moments in Hispanic history. You can also share your stories and photos through an i-Report. That and more at cnn.com/uncoveringamerica.
More of our "Uncovering America" series coming up in the CNN NEWSROOM. A CNN correspondent moonlighting? Feeling fried at the fish factory.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Back's getting a little sore. Hands get cold. Feet get tired. And there's a lot of repetition going on here.
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COLLINS: A day in the life of an immigrant worker.
HARRIS: And meet a sportsman with a real drive. Disability doesn't keep him off the links.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Most of us complain about the least little thing and, you know, if you walk a day in his shoes, you think you're very, very lucky.
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HARRIS: An inspiring story from the -- nice swing. The story coming up in the NEWSROOM.
GERRI WILLIS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Gerri Willis.
It's that time of year again. We'll tell you how to make those important open enrollment decisions. That's coming up next on TOP TIPS.
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COLLINS: OK. All right. All right.
HARRIS: What. What's going on, Heidi?
COLLINS: Let's look at the big board, shall we? Not that it's bad, hello, 14,500. But it is down to the negative about 40, 41 points or so. We are watching those numbers, of course, for you. The Nasdaq also down by about 10 points. We're going to check in a little bit later on with Susan Lisovicz and talk more about the housing recession and some of these layoffs that it's causing. So it might have something to do with some of the numbers that we're seeing. But, seriously, not complaining.
HARRIS: Well, and in the time that you started talking about . . .
COLLINS: It's gone up.
HARRIS: Thank you.
COLLINS: Right.
HARRIS: Choices, choices, choices, choices and even more choices if your company has health care open enrollment. It is time to check the menu. Gerri Willis is back with suggestions this morning.
Gerri, good to see you again.
WILLIS: Good to see you.
HARRIS: All right. What can we expect this year, Gerri?
WILLIS: Hold on to your wallets.
HARRIS: Oh, no.
WILLIS: Next year we'll see higher premiums and out-of-pocket costs. Big surprise there, right?
HARRIS: Yes.
WILLIS: Employees can expect to pay about 10 percent more than last year for total health care cost. That's about $300 more than last year out of your wallet.
HARRIS: Oh, boy. Why does it cost so much to be healthy? I mean, come on.
WILLIS: Well, you know, I've got to tell you, if you developed healthier habits, you would pay less. More and more companies are offering economic incentives for their employees to develop those habits, like enrolling in disease management programs or taking a health risk appraisal online.
But get this. There are a few companies out there that take the opposite approach. They penalize workers for unhealthy habits by charging higher monthly premiums. For example, employees may be charged an extra $50 to $100 for smoking. So, yes, I think that's interesting. To find out what programs your workplace may offer, contact your human resources department. Maybe you'll get penalized. Maybe you'll get some cash.
HARRIS: That would be nice.
Gerri, what about any dependents you have on your plan?
WILLIS: It's getting cold out there. Employers are paying much closer attention to the people that employees report as dependents. Companies are conducting eligibility audits and asking workers to provide proof that dependents enrolled in these health plan are considered legal. Other companies are enacting spousal surcharges. Get this. If your spouse gets insurance from an employer but is listed on your plan, you may have to pay a surcharge.
HARRIS: Man, it is getting tougher.
So how do you sort through all of these options?
WILLIS: Well, first of all, there are fewer options to sort through.
HARRIS: OK.
WILLIS: OK. So if cost is your bottom line, think HMO. You'll pay lower premiums, lower out-of-pocket costs, but choice of doctors is more restricted. If you're more about the choice or your primary care physician is outside the HMO network you're being offered, think about a PPO. You'll be able to choose any doctor. Keep in mind your costs are higher if you go to an out of provider list. And, of course, if you have any questions about your health care coverage or anything else, send them to us at toptips@cnn.com. We love hearing from you.
HARRIS: Well, you've got to clear out the inbox, Gerri, you're so stacked. Some of the folks are writing to us saying, hey, look, I'm trying -- and the e-mail is bouncing back. So clear out the inbox and make some space.
WILLIS: Oh, boy. Oh, we'll get on it.
HARRIS: Will you do that, please.
WILLIS: Thank you, Tony. That's next. I'm going to go do that now.
HARRIS: Gerri, thanks.
WILLIS: Appreciate it.
COLLINS: Federal bureaucrats flying in the lap of luxury? Most are supposed to travel coach. That doesn't look like coach. In fact, many of them are upgrading on taxpayer dollars.
HARRIS: A chemical fire under ground. Five workers lose their life. Authorities set to update reporters on their investigation. See the briefing live in the NEWSROOM, 11:00 a.m. Eastern Time.
Losing hope. Pioneering aviator Steve Fossett missing for a month. Now searchers make a critical decision.
COLLINS: A registered sex offender, the subject of an intense manhunt. Accused of abducting a teenage girl he met on MySpace. She has since been found, but we are going to talk with the Florida sheriff who's leading the investigation.
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HARRIS: Welcome back, everyone, to the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Tony Harris.
COLLINS: Hi there, everybody. I'm Heidi Collins.
Among our top stories this hour, fire at a Colorado power plant kills five people. Four others were able to escape. And this morning, now a desperate search for answers. Nine workers were inside a water tunnel at the hydroelectric plant when it happened.
Here's a closer look at that tunnel. The company says the workers were doing routine maintenance, hundreds of feet underground. Officials say the machine they were using malfunctioned, a fire ignited. Four escaped from the tunnel, but the five remained trapped as the fire raged. A plant spokesman described the scene earlier on CNN's "AMERICAN MORNING."
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TOM HENLEY, XCEL ENERGY SPOKESPERSON: When the fire first started, we pumped down in fresh air through a pipeline and sent them down oxygen bottles and at that point in time, they did have a radio and they were in communication with us.
(END VIDEO CLIP) COLLINS: The workers died before the rescuers got to them. We do expect authorities to update us on their investigation next hour. You will see that news conference live right here in the CNN NEWSROOM.
HARRIS: Also new this morning, President Bush making good on a threat just a short time ago. He vetoed a bill to expand a popular children's health insurance program. He says it is too expensive and a step toward government health care.
Democrats plan an aggressive effort to try to override the veto. There are about two dozen votes short in the House. Supporters say the bill would add another four million children to the insurance rolls (ph) at a cost of $35 million, and they would pay for it with higher Federal cigarettes taxes, a hike of 61 cents to a dollar a pack.
COLLINS: Government employees upgrading their plane tickets and you get the bill. A government report finds (ph) 53,000 first class or business class tickets for federal workers in just one year. The cost: $230 million, $146 million worth of those upgrades never authorized.
Missing now for a month, the search for aviator Steve Fossett called off. Still no sign of his missing single-engine plane in the Nevada desert. Fossett was last seen taking off September 3rd. The Civil Air Patrol says rescuers covered 20,000 square miles, one of the largest searches for a missing plane in modern history. Officials say they will revive the search if they get any more promising tips.
HARRIS: Man, cleanup time after some stormy weather. Residents in several communities in northeastern Missouri have a lot of repair work to do today. A strong storm, possibly from a tornado, ripped through the area. Buildings damaged, power lines knocked down, large trees uprooted. Good news here, no serious injuries reported.
COLLINS: Rob Marciano is watching this story for us as well as plenty of other things that are happening across the country.
Good morning to you, Rob.
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COLLINS: We are also keeping a very close eye on this story. We told you about it yesterday as well. The search for a registered sex offender still on. Police say Bill Mitchell abducted a 15-year-old girl he met on the Internet. Alyssa Frank was found yesterday at a Wal-Mart. Police say Mitchell apparently took the girl to the store to "dump her." Mitchell is believed to be driving a 2000 model black Chevy Lumina, Florida tag number G025EL. You see it on your screen there.
Polk County sheriff Grady Judd is leading the investigation and the search for registered sex offender Bill Mitchell. He's joining us now with the very latest on the manhunt.
First of all, Sheriff, excellent news that Alyssa Frank was found. We'll talk about her in just a minute, I think the more immediate story here this morning now is the fact that Bill Mitchell is still on the loose.
SHERIFF GRADY JUDD, POLK COUNTY, FLORIDA: Yes, we're after William Mitchell. We have assistance from the U.S. Marshals, the FBI, FDLE. We know that he's out there, and he's a predator. He's listed by Florida Probation & Parole as a high-risk offender, and he's capable of striking again at any time. That's why we need him in custody.
COLLINS: Sheriff, it might be helpful to remind our viewers, I know we spoke about this yesterday, about his arrest record and his criminal history, 14 some odd arrests, some of the crimes violent ones.
JUDD: Absolutely, he's got an arrest history that shows that he should have been in jail. He was sentenced to about 70 to 77 years. He's only spent 16 years in jail. He shouldn't have been out yesterday. Charges such as robbery, violent crimes such as possession of destructive devices. He even dated a girl and then had sex with her child, her 13-year-old child.
So he's very, very violent. He is a predator, he is a pedophile. He will strike again, and, by the way, he's got personality and charisma to talk or groom these children into a mood to go with him. That's what makes him so very dangerous.
COLLINS: And from what we understand here, we've spoken with some FBI profilers as well, usually, that ends up being the case and part of the problem where they are able to charm and sort of mesmerize their victims. What should people be doing if they have information about Mitchell?
JUDD: They can dial their local sheriff's office or police department. Just dial 911. We want everyone to look out for that black Lumina and the tag number you just described because he's on the loose. He's scared, but he's also capable of striking again. We know that once they have this profile, they never change their behavior, as was evidenced this last week. Predators are all over the Internet, and they're after our children, and it's up to parents to be the first line of defense.
COLLINS: Excellent, excellent point on that. It must be incredibly huge frustration of yours in law enforcement to see someone like this, a repeat offender, back out on the streets.
JUDD: You know, we ask the question, why is this person on the street? We know that he's dangerous, we know that he's violent. He's struck before, and he's struck again. And quite frankly, when you look at predators, that's their trend. They look for profiles of chat rooms online, and then they groom the children, and in this case, talked this girl in less than two weeks from leaving her home in the middle of the night, climbing out of a bedroom window and going with him. That's just how much personality they have.
COLLINS: Yes. JUDD: That's how dangerous they are.
COLLINS: Yes, it is absolutely terrifying. We also know that Alyssa Frank had never run away before.
Before we let you go, though, Sheriff, and I don't want to pry too much here, but I would like to ask you how Alyssa Frank is doing. I know she was found just wandering in this Wal-Mart store, but you told me yesterday, you know, she said she was in love.
JUDD: Well, Heidi, she is doing really well. She's back united with her parents. She wandered around in the Wal-Mart store when she saw that he left her and told a Wal-Mart employee that she had been kidnapped. Well, in fact, she left with him, but never mind that. She's home, she's safe, and now we all need to work together to find the predator.
COLLINS: So she, I assume, is trying to cooperate with you and not in that mode of trying to protect someone that she thinks she's in love with.
JUDD: That's absolutely correct. At this time, she is cooperating with us, and so is her entire family. The strange part about this, Heidi, is at least three of her friends knew she was going to leave home, knew that she was going to run away "for love," as she said. They all had a chance to stop this, and they didn't.
COLLINS: Yes, it is terrifying, as we have said. So glad that she is OK, at least at this point now.
Sheriff Grady Judd, we appreciate your time here once again today, and we will continue to put this information out there on William Mitchell. Thank you.
JUDD: Thank you very much.
HARRIS: The autopsy is complete, but a family still isn't sure why their loved one died in police custody.
A hostile work place? New York Knicks coach Isiah Thomas found liable in a multi-million dollar suit, but should a type of work place have been a factor? We'll talk with a leading employment (ph) attorney in the NEWSROOM.
SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Susan Lisovicz at the New York Stock Exchange where stocks are selling off for a second straight day and the DOW is now below 14,000. I'll tell you why the bulls are nervous, next.
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COLLINS: You are in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Heidi Collins.
Not a meter maid. Police say a man made off with meters, 123 of them. Let's see, 25 cents -- Tony, you already tried to do this.
HARRIS: Yes, yes.
COLLINS: I'm not going to attempt it. We are, a little bit later on though, after we get a pen and paper, and ...
HARRIS: Yes, (INAUDIBLE).
COLLINS: ...duke (ph) it out, we're going to do the math and let you know how much he made ...
HARRIS: Yes, yes.
COLLINS: ...or hopes to make or something. Coming up, in the NEWSROOM.
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HARRIS: They say you need a quarter for the parking meter. Police in Massachusetts say one man's got plenty, and the meters to go with him. Cambridge, Massachusetts, police went to serve an arrest warrant on the man, and they say they found the tops -- yes -- of 123 stolen parking meters in the apartment. The suspect has pleaded not guilty in the case. Apparently, meter theft is not an isolated problem in Cambridge. Prosecutors say the city lost $100,000 over the past year due to meter thefts.
COLLINS: Stocks kicked off the week with a big bang, and the DOW even hit a record high on Monday, but it didn't take long for fears about the housing recession to pull stocks back down a bit.
Susan Lisovicz is at the New York Stock Exchange now with a look at the latest market action.
Susan, you know, I've taken to pulling up a monitor here so I can watch the numbers as we go throughout the three-hour program.
HARRIS: Well, you're vested, you're vested.
COLLINS: I'm vested.
HARRIS: Yes.
COLLINS: That's true.
LISOVICZ: No -- no cow bell for you today.
COLLINS: No cow bell. Darn it, that was just a historical moment.
LISOVICZ: Heidi, Tony -- Tony missed out on that.
COLLINS: I know, he did.
LISOVICZ: But it -- I know that it will return soon.
COLLINS: OK.
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HARRIS: Taking an immigration stand at the cheese steak stand. Politics on the menu for Rudy Giuliani. What he had to say about people who want to become U.S. citizens.
COLLINS: Also, he's got his life on course despite a disability. The golfer with no arms, but a whole lot of swing.
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HARRIS: So you know, Heidi, I've had a couple days off because I've got that split schedule working now.
COLLINS: Yes, and thank God you're back to do this.
HARRIS: To do this?
COLLINS: Yes, you're so much better at it.
HARRIS: No, you've been holding it down. I'm sure you have, come on, Heidi.
COLLINS: No, no, I just can't do it justice.
HARRIS: You are highly trained, a highly -- you are, a highly trained professional.
COLLINS: Podcast promoter.
HARRIS: Yes, yes.
So, I'm thinking of the places where folks can sort of download the podcast as they go about their day-to-day, and I'm thinking, look. Folks are watching us at the airport right now. They're going nowhere fast.
COLLINS: Yes, this is true.
HARRIS: They're going nowhere fast.
COLLINS: No.
HARRIS: So, while you're there, why don't you take a moment and download ...
COLLINS: You have been thinking about this for two days.
HARRIS: I've been thinking about this. This is the best I could do.
Why don't you go to CNN.com and download the CNN daily NEWSROOM podcast available to you 24/7 on your iPod. Do it today while you're at the airport because you're going nowhere fast. COLLINS: However, that is not the case for the man we're about to tell you about. Meet a man with a real drive. A 48-year-old golfer who was born with no arms. George Utley started working on his swing -- look at at -- 25 years ago. He saw a guy just like him playing golf on that old TV show "That's Incredible," remember? Utley got specially made extra long clubs and hit the links.
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GEORGE UTLEY, GOLFER: Life is too short. You just got to get out, you know, conquer the world because you never know what you can do unless you try.
NANCY UTLEY, GOLFER'S MOTHER: I run into people that say he's an inspiration because most of us complain about the least little thing, and, you know, if you walk a day in his shoes, you think we're very lucky.
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COLLINS: Utley says he can drive the ball about 180 yards.
HARRIS: English for citizenship? The top GOP presidential candidate places his order.
CNN's Mary Snow reports.
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RUDY GIULIANI, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If you want to become a citizen of the United States, you should be able to read, write, and speak English.
MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Rudy Giuliani, speaking out on a very hot topic. The former New York City mayor and Republican presidential candidate made his comments at the same cheese steak stand that grabbed national attention last year.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the cheese whiz.
SNOW: Geno's Steaks, one of Philadelphia's most famous and popular joints, made headlines last year when it posted signs saying, "This is America. When ordering, please speak English."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That sign's never coming down.
SNOW: And owner Joey Vento kept his word. The sign still stands, even though he's been criticized that they're discriminatory. Giuliani has toughened his stance on illegal immigration since his days as New York City mayor, but some rivals are highlighting his earlier career.
MITT ROMNEY, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Mayor Giuliani made New York City what's know as a sanctuary city.
SNOW: Giuliani defends his decision to continue a policy started by a predecessor to allow the children of illegal immigrants to attend public schools, receive medical attention, and cooperate with the police without fear of being deported.
Giuliani now opposes efforts to give some legal immigrants a pathway to citizenship, and he's in favor of beefing up border security.
GIULIANI: Most important thing is we have to end illegal immigration.
KEATING HOLLAND, CNN POLLING DIRECTOR: Immigration may not be a hot button issue in Iowa and New Hampshire, but it matters a great deal in Florida, California, New York and other big states where Giuliani hopes to score big wins later in the primary season.
SNOW: Giuliani did win over Vento. The Geno's owner says, he's supporting Giuliani because the two men agree on immigration.
Mary Snow, CNN, New York.
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HARRIS: For once, now it is time for history to repeat itself. Go to CNN.com/youtubedebates and post your questions for the Republican presidential candidates. The debate's scheduled for Wednesday, November 28th. Your voice will be heard only on CNN, your home for politics.
COLLINS: A chemical fire underground. Five workers lose their lives. Authorities set to update reporters on their investigation. You can see that briefing live right here in the NEWSROOM, coming up in about five or six minutes.
HARRIS: And images of brutal repression caught on tape, witnessing history in real time. What you haven't seen yet from Myanmar.
COLLINS: A CNN correspondent moonlighting? Feeling fried at a fish factory.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Back's getting a little sore, hands get cold, feet get tired, and there's a lot of repetition going on here.
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COLLINS: A day in the life of an immigrant worker.
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): The situation in Myanmar doesn't seem to be getting any better. An i-Reporter, who, for his safety, wishes to remain anonymous, sent us this video. The military junta is seen here using rubber bullets on protesters. One demonstrator is hit and falls to the ground. This kind of violence in Myanmar is getting worldwide attention with people from across the globe coming out to show their support.
I-Reporter Rob Welham shot this video of a crowd in London, praying for the people in Myanmar and the dozens killed in earlier protests. In New York City, Umyat Soe captured these images of protesters gathered in a park near the United Nations. Many people, including Buddhist monks, took to the streets to show their support. And in Jakarta, Indonesia, i-Reporter Meistra Budiasa shot this video of people protesting for democracy in Burma and a stop to the military violence.
You can see more i-Reports like these and send in your own by going to our Web site at CNN.com.
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COLLINS: Close call for Poland's ambassador to Iraq. His convoy, the target of a car bomb. Authorities tell CNN the Polish diplomat was wounded, one of his bodyguards killed, along with two Iraqi civilians. Eleven other people wounded as well. The ambassador headed to Ramstein Air Base in Germany for treatment. He is in stable condition. Poland currently has about 900 troops in Iraq.
HARRIS: And good morning again, everyone. You're with CNN, you're informed.
I'm Tony Harris.
COLLINS: Hi there, everybody, I'm Heidi Collins.
Developments keep coming in to the CNN NEWSROOM on Wednesday, the third day of October. Here's what's on the rundown.
Five workers killed in Colorado in an underground chemical fire. How did it happen? A live briefing this hour.
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