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Simpson Robbery Case Takes New Turn; Gore's Nobel Peace Prize; Drinking While Pregnant Controversy; Study Finds Bad Relationships Can Damage Your Heart; Miley Cyrus Concert Ticket Scandal; Fran Lewin Receives Award in Journalism; Clinton Receives Fashion Advice From Supporters; Fiery Crash in Los Angeles
Aired October 13, 2007 - 16:30 ET
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GEN. RICARDO SANCHEZ, RETIRED: There is no question that America is living a nightmare with no end in sight.
SUSAN ROESGEN, CNN, ANCHOR: Up next in the NEWSROOM. Harsh words about the war in Iraq from a former top commander. Retired General Ricardo Sanchez said a lust for power leads to lost American lives.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it's taking advantage of me as a consumer, my children and it's not teaching my children a good lesson either. Oh, you can get what you want if you pay the right price.
ROESGEN: A teenage girl, Hanna Montana, all the rage. But what you will pay for a ticket to see her is an outrage.
And our top story, 15 big rigs smash into each other inside a California tunnel and a major interstate could be shut down for days. We will take you there live.
You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Susan Roesgen, filling in today for Fredricka Whitfield.
We got new information on our top story. We now know that two people are dead after this fiery chain reaction pileup in a tunnel on interstate 5 north of Los Angeles. The intense heat from the wreckage keeps emergency crews from getting too close. And what's worse, this tunnel is part of this interstate, i-5, linking L.A. to San Francisco, a major thoroughfare, and it may have structural damage. CNN's Peter Viles is there live. Peter.
PETER VILES, CNN, CORRESPONDENT: Susan, this is a very difficult fire to fight. It's been burning for 13 hours now. It started late last night, around 11, 11:30. It was huge blaze when it erupted. Some sort of chain reaction as big rig trucks in a tunnel that is just for truck traffic that runs underneath interstate 5. Now, we are down at the front end, we're at the back end of this tunnel now.
At the front end you can see four big rigs that almost made it through. Those four big rigs are almost completely torched. They are just twisted, burned, mess of metal. Now, as you said, there had been reports of fatalities, conflicting reports at this hour. The California Highway Patrol is reporting that two people have died in this fire and accident. However, fire officials on the scene are not yet confirming that. We can say that when we were at the other end of the tunnel where those twisted big rigs still haven't been moved and they are still smoking, there was a coroner on the scene and she had a team and she had a large tarpaulin so that the news media she could not see exactly what she was doing. And they asked us in the event that they did move bodies that we would not photograph that. That said, California Highway Patrol says two people have died. But the story at the moment right now is they cannot get into the tunnel to fight the fire. There are engineers now on top of the tunnel, exploring the possibility of puncturing a hole, cutting a hole in the middle of the tunnel so that they can start pouring fire retardant foam into the middle of the tunnel. It's a long tunnel, maybe an eighth of a mile. And they cannot fight the fire in the middle so it is still burning. Just one other personal note, when we were down at the end of the tunnel, we heard a number of small explosions. This was just about a half hour ago. Small explosions, could have been tires blowing up, could have been fuel tanks that hadn't yet blown up. But after 13 hours this fire still packs enough heat and enough punch that there are little explosions inside that tunnel and nobody is inside it fighting the fire. Susan.
ROESGEN: So Peter, we've got this bottleneck here on the I-5 and we got this possibility that the tunnel itself may be unusable after all this. How are people going to get around? When they might they somehow repair it? Is anybody talking about getting people going again on that stretch?
VILES: Let me take the second part of that first. They don't know if the tunnel is structurally sound until they get in there and take a good look at it. They can't get in there and take a good look at it until this fire is out and they really can't go in and fight the fire aggressively knowing there's a chance that the tunnel isn't sound. So, they have a catch-22 on how quickly they can get in and fight this fire. The second question about the inconvenience and the traffic jams. Monday morning without I-5 would be a pretty major traffic nightmare for Los Angeles. In the short term, they have already given truckers some alternate routes and they are big, big detours, if you will, 30 and 40 miles around this. So, it's not an easy spot. You can avoid it but it's not an easy spot to avoid. So, a number of big traffic headaches in the near future for this area, just north of Los Angeles. The big concern is getting this fire under control, getting this fire out and clearing the trucks. They don't even know how many trucks are in there; original reports 10 to 15 trucks. There could be more trucks in that tunnel. And we have also heard reports that there are passenger cars. They are not supposed to be in there but some cars use this as a shortcut. So, there could be passenger cars in that tunnel as well, Susan.
ROESGEN: OK. Thanks. Peter Viles, reporting for us live.
So a lot of people may need another way to get to work on Monday morning. Already last night, a lot of unlucky drivers spent all night in traffic jams going in either direction.
We got this i-Report photo from a USC student, Joshua Sharp. He took the picture this morning about 12 hours after that collision happened. If you got an i-Report picture, if you're stuck in traffic or you're in that area, you got a picture or cell phone cameras and video, all you have to do is go to CNN.com, click i-Report and that will show you how to do it. And we would love to get your images from the scene.
We know everybody's got an opinion on the war in Iraq but a former top commander of the coalition forces there say it's a disaster. Pentagon correspondent Jamie McIntyre reports this three-star general, retired three-star general, has dropped the bomb on the Bush administration.
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JAMIE MCINTYRE, CNN, PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Ricardo Sanchez was brimming with optimism when he was the top commander of U.S. troops in Iraq. He's retired now. His career cut short by the fallout of the Abu Ghraib scandal that happened on his watch. And he's turned into one of the biggest critics of how the Bush administration has managed the war, calling it "a catastrophic failure."
SANCHEZ: Continued manipulations and adjustments for military strategy will not achieve victory. The best we can do with this flawed approach is stave off the beat. The administration, Congress and entire inter agency, especially the State Department, must shoulder the responsibility for this catastrophic failure and the American people must hold them accountable.
MCINTYRE: Sanchez told the group, military reporters and editors, that he had reservations about the strategy while in Iraq back in 2003 and 2004. But he felt he could not resign without jeopardizing his troops. But now retired he says the current strategy is too little and doomed to fail.
SANCHEZ: There has been a glaring unfortunate display of incompetence strategic leadership within our national leaders. As the Japanese proverbs say, action without vision is a nightmare. There is no question that America is living a nightmare with no end in sight.
MCINTRE: Sanchez was in line for promotion to four-star general until tarred by the Abu Ghraib scandal. While officially cleared of any wrongdoing, he had fierce critics in Congress. For a while he sat quietly in the job in Europe waiting to see if the furor would blow over but the controversy essentially made him unconfirmable, and he retired. He now plans to write a book. Jamie McIntyre, CNN Washington.
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ROESGEN: Well, most insiders say the was in Iraq cost another general, General Peter Pace, an expected re-appointment as chairman of the Joints Chief of Staff but it was what he did to honor his marines in the Vietnam was that's been very moving today. On the day he retired, October 1st, General Pace made a trip to the Vietnam memorial wall. And our correspondent Barbara Starr brought us these pictures to show us the purpose of that visit. General Pace left behind note cards and his own stars in memory of the men he lost in his platoon in combat in Vietnam. In his farewell speech, he mentioned those men by name.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PETER PACE, JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF CHMN. (RET.): I made a promise about 38 years ago to Guido Farinaro, Chubby Hale, Whitey Traverse, Mike Witt, Little Joe Arnold, Freddy Williams, Jon Miller, that I would serve this country in whatever capacity I could for as long as I could and try to do it in a way that would pay respect to the sacrifice that they made following Second Lieutenant Peter Pace in combat.
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ROESGEN: And on those notes, the general said that those stars belong to his fallen marine men, and not himself. That was again Joint Chiefs Chairman Peter Pace at his retirement October 1st.
Another eyewitness account contradicts the official version of the Blackwater shootings in Baghdad. Yesterday, CNN reported that American troops who arrived at the scene found no indication of hostile fire against a Blackwater security team. Now "The New York Times" has found three Kurdish politicians who say they saw what happened from a nearby rooftop. One of these witnesses says Blackwater guards fired on a civilian bus and on a man who was trying to run away. Here's part of that eyewitness account.
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OMAR H. WASSO, SENIOR OFFICIAL, PATRIOTIC UNIION OF KURDISTAN PARTY: They were in the middle of the circle there.
CORRESPONDENT: Yes.
WASSO: They shoot one red bus like this one. The bus has 40 passengers.
CORRESPONDENT: 14 or 40?
WASSO: Women, and kids and old people. The driver of the Volkswagen tried to escape and they shot him in the back of the head.
He was running and they hit him from the back. The head was opened like this.
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ROESGEN: Well, you will want to be watching here tomorrow when Blackwater founder, Eric Prince, will answer questions from Wolf Blitzer. That's on CNN's late edition at 11:00 a.m. Eastern.
And in our next hour, a closer look at what those private security contractors are doing in Iraq. Are they doing what our troops should be doing there?
A new development today in the armed robbery case against O.J. Simpson. One of his co-defendants is about to cut a plea deal. Charles Cashmore's attorney said his client will plead guilty on Monday to being an accessory to robbery in the confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers last month at a Las Vegas hotel. Cashmore will also testify that two other men with Simpson that day were armed when they allegedly took the collectibles from the dealers. Simpson has been insisting that no guns were involved, and he says that he was only retrieving items that belonged to him.
We had some very poignant examples of what can happen when a child feels threatened. Coming up next in the NEWSROOM, a new concern about bullies in school.
Also, when a marriage is good, life is great. But when it's bad, could it kill you? A new study out this week.
Plus this,
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And lastly, would you tie your shoes so you don't trip over?
ROESGEN: Talk about scrutiny on the campaign trail. How much attention is too much attention? See for yourself when we come back later in the NEWSROOM.
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ROESGEN: It's been a scary week for students and teachers in some of this country's high schools. A shooting in Cleveland left four people hurt and a teenage gunman dead. And then near Philadelphia, a troubled teenager is accused of plotting to kill his former classmates. In both cases, the boys may have wanted to kill because they had been bullied. CNN's Alan Chernoff has more on that.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) ALAN CHERNOFF, CNN, CORRESPONDENT: The teenage gunman at a Cleveland high school who shot four and then killed himself this week had a history of being bullied. The same is true of the 14-year-old boy arrested Wednesday who had a cache of arms in his bedroom, allegedly to be used in a Columbine-style attack at Plymouth Whitemarsh high school outside of Philadelphia. His former karate teacher, who says she knows the family well and did not want to appear on camera, believes the boy has had social problems for years.
So he was bullied quite a bit though?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, he was. Yes, he was.
CHERNOFF: To your knowledge, for any particular reason?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, kids are kind of cruel when kids are overweight. Or they made fun of him by the way he talked.
CHERNOFF: The Columbine attackers also had been bullied at school. In fact, the federal government safe school initiative found more than two-third of school shooters feel they have been bullied, often severely, condition, experts say, that can set off a child to seek vengeance.
JOHN DAVIS, 2XTREME ALTERNATIVE YOUTH COUNSELLING: If they are going to isolate themselves, possibly have issues with depression and then eventually they're going to either start self-medicating or finding ways to be able to act out.
CHERNOFF: Schools recognize the problem of bullying and many have programs to stop it but they are largely ineffective, says youth violence expert Sally Black, whose two children are students at Plymouth Whitemarsh High. Too often, Black says school administrators end up siding with the bully rather than the initial victim, which can instill in that victim a desire to strike back in a big way.
SALLY BLACK, SAINT JOSEPH'S UNIVERSITY: We just need to get the programs out there that work. And stop doing these programs that don't work. We are causing a whole lot more harm than good. We're wasting taxpayers' money and there's going to be a whole lot more bloodshed unless we as adults get it right.
CHERNOFF: What's needed, says Black, are school programs that aggressively address bullying but understand that children, including teens, need to learn what is unacceptable. So the best defense against school violence, Black says is for schools and parents at home to constantly teach proper behavior. Alan Chernoff, CNN, Plymouth meeting, Pennsylvania.
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ROESGEN: Here's advice that we've all heard for pregnant women. We heard this for years. Don't drink alcohol. But some doctors say, well, maybe they can have a little alcohol. How much? Coming up.
Plus, toll evaders costing you millions when we come back. Tracking down the people who try to get away.
BONNIE SCHNEIDER, CNN, METEOROLOGIST: I'm CNN meteorologist Bonnie Schneider. Most of the country is enjoying great weather this Saturday evening but some spots get ready for rain. Let's take a live look at St. Louis, Missouri. Here's a picture of the arch, the gateway to the west. Well, it looks like you're going to face some heavy downpours tonight. We'll have a look at that plus your forecast for Sunday, coming up next on CNN NEWSROOM.
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ROESGEN: News across America now. This was the dramatic and deadly end to the pursuit of a triple murder suspect. Arthur Jackson committed suicide as he crashed his car into Lake Arlington after a police chase. Jackson was wanted for shooting his estranged wife and two stepchildren to death in nearby Ft. Worth.
In Texas right now, Latino activists are protesting a controversial plan instituted by the Irving Police Department. This is live video, a live shot there in Dallas. These protesters are angry that the police now refer illegal immigrants they've arrested to federal authorities. We will keep an eye on this protest and we'll bring you more as we get it.
And this is a New York City first. Gotham's tallest city goes green, emerald green, to mark the Muslim Feast of Eid al-Fitr that marks the end of Ramadan, Islam's holiest month. And in Islam, green symbolizes a happy occasion.
Well, it is the rule of the road. You pay the tolls when you're supposed to. And if you don't, there's a high-tech way you might get caught. CNN's Kathleen Koch shows you how this works and why some drivers say it's not fair.
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KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN, CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's the toll booth fast lane, cashless systems where drivers prepay tolls and an electronic device on their cars calculates the amount due as they drive through. The so-called ez-pass lanes also make it ez-sier to violate the law.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are folks who take that as an opportunity to go through without paying the toll.
KOCH: The violations rack up. It loses roughly $20 million a year to toll evaders, Maryland, $2.5 million. This year it began cracking down that reads license plates electronically.
UNIDENITIFIED MALE: We will scan every license plate that comes in the range of the cameras.
KOCH: The two cameras mount to an unmarked car. They check licenses against the database of chronic toll violators. Violators who owe more than $1,000 in tolls and fees.
SGT. WILIAM BARRY: That's what I get and a picture of the vehicle is going to be right here.
KOCH: One of Sergeant William Barry's biggest catches, a driver owing $3,000 in tolls.
SGT. WILLIAM BARRY: Just talking to her, it was just someone who for four years not paid any tolls.
KOCH: Speed is the system's biggest asset.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you think about the number of vehicles that this system is scanning, 2,300 vehicles a day, compare that to just what one patrol officer would be able to do, it's unbeatable.
KOCH: Police around the country are also using the electronic license plate readers to find stolen cars and drivers with suspended plates. But the ACLU warns the technology could violate driver's rights to privacy.
BARRY STEINHARDT, AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS UNION: If you look at the bigger picture, we will be tracked everywhere we go. The license plate readers are only part of that, but an important part of that, we got a mobile society where people move around in cars. This enables the government and private industry to determine where you have been.
KOCH: Police insist the devices don't take a toll on civil rights. Only targeting law breakers with more accuracy and speed than humans can. Kathleen Koch, CNN, Washington.
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ROESGEN: Well, one of the big weather stories we're following is how dry it is in much of the country. And the southeastern U.S. is especially suffering. This is Lake Lanier, the main water source for metro Atlanta. Look at how dry it is. Look how much is dry land that should be under water. At the present rate, this lake is expected to be tapped out completely by January. Bonnie Schneider is in the severe weather center searching for some storms to rain on Georgia. Bonnie.
BONNIE SCHEIDER, CNN, METEOROLOGIST: That would be nice. I wish I could bring that to Georgia because not only are we in an extreme drought here in Georgia, but it's actually at level four, which is considered exceptional. And that's not just in Georgia but in areas of the Carolinas, back through Alabama and even into parts of Tennessee and Kentucky. So the southeast drought is a big story for many states across the region. This is from the U.S. drought monitor and you could see there are some areas of moderate drought out to the west and parts of California and New Mexico. But nothing like what we are seeing here in the southeast. Dry as a bone, no rain to report all the way from Nashville down to Atlanta. Dry once again. And that is unfortunate because the forecast for Atlanta, for example, doesn't even bring any rain until just a chance of showers and thunderstorms on Wednesday. And that's only 30%. The weather pattern we are seeing now continues for the next couple days. High pressure in the east, which brings brilliant sunshine but unfortunately the dry conditions we are talking about. But there is some rain to talk about once you start heading west. Kansas city, the rain is starting to pass further to the east but as we zoom into this region along i-70, some very heavy downpours there and into St. Louis. Let's take a live look at St. Louis right now because we have overcast skies right over the arch. You can see breaks in the horizon but don't let that fool you, there's a batch of heavy rain heading your way. So, if you're heading out this Saturday night, be ready for downpours and bring the umbrella with you. Susan.
ROESGEN: OK. Thanks Bonnie. And in Atlanta, take shorter showers. That's what they are telling us to do.
Coming up, you know a bad marriage is destructive. But a new study says a bad marriage could also be hazardous to your health. We will tell you why coming up in the NEWSROOM.
JOSH LEVS, CNN, CORRESPONDENT: Hey, there, Josh Levs here. Big question in America today, is the Nobel Peace prize really about peace or is it about politics? Well, guess what, we have the answer from the mouth of one of the heads of the Nobel's committee.
Also, who turns down a Nobel peace prize? That and more coming up here on CNN, the most trusted name in news.
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ROESGEN: Happening right now, California police now say two people have died in this fiery crash just outside of Los Angeles, near Santa Clarita. At least 15 big rigs, maybe more, smashed into each other inside a tunnel Friday night. There are still apparently explosions in the tunnel. The fire is not quite out. They believe that ten people, maybe more, were hurt. Perhaps one is still missing and the traffic there on i-5, the major north-south interstate, is stopped.
A former U.S. commander in Iraq is blasting the Bush administration for the war. Retired Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez calls it in his words "a nightmare with no end in sight." He says the war planning was flawed from the start. But Sanchez also said we shouldn't pull out now. He says that would create chaos. No comment from the White House.
And, one of O.J. Simpson's co-defendant is copping a plea. A deal that could strengthen the armed robbery case against the former football star. It involves the confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers last month in Las Vegas. Charles Cashmore's attorney said he will plead guilty to a lesser charge and testify that two men with Simpson that day were armed. Simpson has said all along that no guns were involved.
And this is now a look at what's going on in Dallas, Texas today. This is a protest, protesting the Irving Police Department's decision to turn illegal immigrants over to the federal government. A huge Latino activist protest there, no reports of any disturbances with this, but we will keep an eye on it and let you know what happens.
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AL GORE, FMR. VICE PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES: Tipper and I will go to Oslo and I will accept this award on behalf of all of those who have been working so long and so hard to try to get the message out about this planetary emergency.
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ROESGEN: Former Vice President Al Gore, now newly crowned Nobel peace prize winner. He won the prize for his efforts to raise awareness of global warming. Many people say it's well deserved. Others say it was a political decision. What role does politics play in naming the peace prize winner? We've got Josh Levs here now to keep us honest. Tell us something about this selection process. Who are these guys? Who is on the Nobel Selection Committee?
JOSH LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, it's so secretive. You can't even nominate someone unless you're invited to nominate and you don't even know how you can be invited to nominate. I couldn't just nominate you, I'm sorry. It's amazing how secretive this entire system is. So that's what we've been looking into and also trying to get to the bottom of this question, about whether it's really about peace or politics and what we know for a fact is that the leader of the Nobels has said, yes, politics are involved.
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GORE: It is the most dangerous challenge we ever faced. LEVS: Al Gore's Nobel Peace Prize puts him in the company of such human rights activists as Iranian Shirin Abadi(ph) and more controversial winners like Palestinian Leader Yasser Arafat. In 1973, Henry Kissinger won along with North Vietnamese Leader Lai Doctoa(ph) who turned down the prize saying his country was not at peace. But is the prize principally about peace or is the committee also making a political statement? The answer, politics play a big role. In 2002 when Former President Carter won the Nobel Committee Chairman said the award should be interpreted as a criticism of the line that the current U.S. administration has taken in international politics. In selecting Gore and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the committee wants to increase focus on efforts to protect.
OLE DANBOLT MJOS, CHAIRMAN, NOBEL COMMITTEE: There was future climate and, thereby, to reduce the threat to security of mankind.
LEVS: Many environment experts do see these efforts as critical for peace.
ROGER HIGMAN, FRIENDS OF THE EARTH: The committee has recognized that climate change, if unchecked, will be a cause of conflict in the future.
LEVS: The British newspaper, "The Guardian" says drought helped spark the conflict in Sudan making it likely the first climate change war. Still, there are plenty of peace activists worldwide. Who was Gore's competition and how does the committee decide? They don't want us to know.
GORE: I, again, thank the Nobel committee.
LEVS: You have to be invited to nominate someone and the five-member panel appointed by the Norwegian Parliament keeps its work top secret. Including, the committee says, investigations and opinions related to the award of a prize.
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LEVS: Now speaking of award of the prize, a lot of you have incredibly strong opinions about this. One of the things I do on weekends too is monitor dotcom. You have got to see some of the opinions that are being posted there. Let's start with this one, John Groover of Washington State. He mailed us saying, "Gore took the defeat of the 2000 election and rechanneled that energy into a cause that he feels passionately for. He has raised the awareness of a growing global issue and regardless of whether those changes affect us in 50 years or 100 years, he's shown courage for pointing out things that others don't want to acknowledge." Alright, now let's look at the flipside. Because we're hearing a lot on both sides, too. This one is from Matthew Whitley of North Carolina. He's writing us, "The Nobel Committee actually expects us to believe that, out of all human organizations working for peace and the improvement of the human condition that this," he goes on to say, "he could possibly be the one that should be awarded. How ridiculous." He ends by saying. So you can see that, you can see a lot more on CNN.com. We just wanted to show you some clips of them, of course, there are dozens of them up there. This story really galvanizes people. It's always interesting to see what people are weighing in on. This weekend it's this more than anything else.
ROESGEN: Yeah, I think it has to be the guy himself. Gore is the galvanizing figure.
LEVS: Well, that and the fact that he's the one getting it, exactly, most of it's about him. You're right.
ROESGEN: Thanks, Josh.
LEVS: Thanks.
ROESGEN: While we're talking about your world, our world, we want to bring you the story behind the statistics. Tune in for CNN's worldwide investigation, (PLANET IN PERIL) with our own Anderson Cooper, Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Jeff Corwin. It premieres Tuesday October 23rd at 9:00 eastern and Wednesday, October 24th. You can also get a preview of (PLANET IN PERIL) online. Just go to CNN.com/planetinperil.
Pregnancy and alcohol. You heard for years that you cannot mix the two. That might depend on which doctor you talk to and on where you live. We'll have the facts after the break.
Plus, a new study says a bad marriage can break your heart. Literally. Dr. Lloyd is talking about love next.
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ROESGEN: Well, we have known for a long time about the dangers of fetal alcohol syndrome, pregnant women drinking during pregnancy. But now British researchers say some mothers could be bellying up to the bar; in moderation. CNN's Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen has our 'Health for Her' report.
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ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: The last thing you would think a doctor would say to a pregnant woman is go ahead and drink. It's okay. But British health authorities are considering telling pregnant women in their second and third trimester, a drink a day is okay. The Brits have gone back and forth about advice on alcohol for pregnant women.
AMY, PREGNANT MOTHER: Having drunk, sensibly, two or three units a week throughout my pregnancy and having felt fantastic on it, I would be very interested to know if there is a danger to my baby, what that danger is.
COHEN: The draft of this new policy makes it pretty clear.
DR. DAGHNI RAJASINGAM, ROYAL COLLEGE OF OBSTETRICIANS: Drinking one to two units of alcohol once or twice a week is unlikely to harm your baby. COHEN: No matter what's decreed in Britain, don't expect American authorities to change their advice any time soon. That advice -- don't drink when you're pregnant.
DR. IFFATH HOSKINS, LUTHERAN MEDICAL CENTER: We know that drinking alcohol and pregnancy is dangerous for the developing fetus.
COHEN: Doctor Iffath Hoskins admits there isn't much science to say either way if a drink a day is okay for pregnant women. Doctors can't do studies on pregnant women in alcohol. It would be unethical. She says that don't drink at all advice is really just to be safe and absolutely sure that the fetus isn't harmed.
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COHEN: A draft of the British policy says women in their first trimester should avoid alcohol if possible, and more than five drinks in one sitting could be particularly harmful during pregnancy. The full recommendation from the British health authorities isn't expected to be out until next year. You can get more medical news from Elizabeth Cohen by clicking on to our website, CNN.com and going to the link on medical.
ROESGEN: And you can get more medical news from Elizabeth Cohen by clicking onto our website CNN.com and going to the link on medical. In our 'Living Well' segment today, a bad marriage can break your heart, literally. And even a rocky relationship is bad for your heart. Dr. Bill Lloyd is with us in Sacramento to tell us about this new study. Bill?
BILL LLOYD, SURGEON: Susan, this appears this month in the archives of internal medicine. A British group looked at 9,000 adults, followed them for 12 years. Now, at the beginning of the study, they gave them a questionnaire saying, "Hey, how is your life?" It had 15 different questions that included, how is your long-term relationship going? They kept the data, followed the people for 12 years. Susan, they found out at the end of 12 years that if you were trapped in an unhappy marriage or an unhappy close relationship, you were 34% more likely to suffer a heart attack or to die from heart disease.
ROESGEN: So what are you supposed to do, Dr. Bill, get out of it? Is that the answer?
LLOYD: Well, you know, there's no study that says it's good to be married, it's good to be around people and if you are single or divorced and live alone, you're going to have a shorter life. If you're in the marriage and it's not healthy to get out of the marriage, it's probably wiser to fix the marriage. And here's an important point, there are other we call co-morbidities that go with unhappiness, things like depression, excess alcohol consumption, obesity, et cetera. You can talk to your doctor in trying to manage these health problems by, perhaps, mitting(ph) in a little marital therapy as well. There's many insurance plans that will offer these types of services to people who simply ask for them. Your doctor may not invite you to go to marital therapy but you can ask your doctor and you may discover what the real issues are that are causing that friction between you and your partner and, with that, hopefully enjoy a healthier life.
ROESGEN: That would be a good thing. Thank you, Dr. Bill. Appreciate it.
LLOYD: Take care. We will talk to you again soon.
ROESGEN: Now, our own CNN heartbreaker, Tony Harris, is here.
TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: Whoa!
ROESGEN: You are a heartbreaker.
HARRIS: How are you doing?
ROESGEN: I'm doing okay. How are you?
HARRIS: I tell you what, at the top of the hour, are you familiar with teen speak?
ROESGEN: No.
HARRIS: Teen speak. I tell what you, parents, I've got a near teenager. We are losing our minds trying to figure out what teens are talking about. Teen speak. What is it all about? Trying to break the code. Josh Levs, a very busy man, will be back in the five o'clock hour trying to help us understand to break the code of teen speak. Susan, here's one for you, "My brother, he is so agnorant." What does it mean?
ROESGEN: Ignorant?
HARRIS: Yes.
ROESGEN: Just mispronounced?
HARRIS: It's a combination, arrogant and ignorant.
ROESGEN: Oh.
HARRIS: A high-five, you are so good.
ROESGEN: About the only one I could figure out.
HARRIS: So there you go, it's not nice but it's, we'll get to the yin and yen of teen speak at the top of the hour. We're getting word that we might get a news conference on your top story about the horrible chain-reaction crash in the tunnel out in Los Angeles. The Los Angeles County Fire Department maybe holding a news conference at the 5:00 hour. If that comes to pass, we will bring it to you.
ROESGEN: Okay, we'll be watching for that and a lot of parents will learn to talk to their kids.
HARRIS: Good for you.
ROESGEN: Speaking of parents and teenage girls, Hannah Montana might be the hottest ticket in town for teenagers and tweenagers. But 2,500 bucks a ticket? Some kids and their parents say that's a slap in the face value. We will tell you about it coming up.
But first, "Fortune" magazine's list of the '50 Most Powerful Women in Business' is out and here's your chance to find out who is making the cut.
ROESGEN: She sold makeup door-to-door and has climbed the 'corporate ladder' at Niemen Marcus and Bloomingdale's. Now she heads up one of the largest female-run firms in the country. Who transformed beauty into bucks? We will tell you after the break.
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ROESGEN: Coming in ninth in "Fortune" magazine's Most Powerful Women in Business list is Andrea Jung, Chairman and CEO of Avon products. She's given Avon a makeover by targeting teens and launching new products. Stocks are up 15% this year and with Reese Witherspoon as the new face of Avon, Jung plans on bringing more attention to women's issues such as breast cancer and domestic violence.
Teens and tweens love Hannah Montana, and apparently so do ticket brokers. The pop star's upcoming concert is sold out in minutes with the brokers getting most of the tickets. Tickets that went for $25 now going for more than 100 times that amount. John Zarrella has the story.
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JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Cara, Casey, Amanda. 7:00 p.m. Like clock work, they are plopped on the sofa in front of the TV.
CARA VON MINDEN, HANNAH FAN: We didn't miss like any episodes of her, unless something really big was happening.
ZARRELLA: The "her" is Miley Cyrus, the 14-year-old star of her own Disney show called Hannah Montana. Every parent with girls between the ages of 6 and 16 knows about it. It has exploded in popularity, so Cara, Casey and Amanda had to have tickets to Cyrus' concert billed as "The Best of Both Worlds.'
MINDEN: All of our friends are going to come, too. But now we can't.
ZARRELLA: Can't because within minutes of going on sale, tickets at all 54 venues were gone. So, where did they all go? They are right here. Ticket brokers using sophisticated computer programs gobbled up nearly every ticket available, and now tickets that went for $25 to $65 face value are going for hundreds, even thousands, on internet sites. And all of that cash going into ticket brokers' pockets. Cyrus' October 25th concert in Denver, on ticket liquidators you can buy one in section 212 for $228 or in section AAA row 2, for $2,550 each.
MAUREEN VON MINDEN, MOTHER: I think it's taking advantage of me as a consumer, my children and it's not teaching my children a good lesson either. Oh, you can get what you want if you pay the right price. ZARRELLA: After undercover investigators paid ten times face value for tickets in Kansas City. Missouri's Attorney General filed suit, accusing three companies of violating local anti-scalping laws.
JAY NIXON, MISSOURI ATTORNEY GENERAL: When you allow the hijacking of the market, it's literally the 'worst of both worlds.' You get too much charge for the price and no access for the locals.
ZARRELLA: Ticket brokers would not talk with us but Donald Vacarro, whose company ticketnetwork.com, resells tickets for brokers says the bottom line that the marketplace defines the price.
DONALD VACCARO, CEO, TICKETNETWORK.COM: I'd say a reasonable price is whatever a consumer wants to pay.
ZARRELLA: Thursday, Cyrus and her co-star dad, Billy Ray, appeared on the Ellen DeGeneres show, saying they understand their fans' disappointment.
MILEY CYRUS, POP-STAR: It's going to be a good show but I don't think it's worth what it's going for. But the people who do get in, it may be like the best show ever.
ZARRELLA: Except in this case the concert promoter AEG Live auctioned off select tickets at 15 venues. They went for hundreds to thousands per ticket.
DEBRA RATHWELL, AEG LIVE: If the brokers are going to end up with the tickets, the owners should get paid for them is kind of the theory.
ZARRELLA: The fact is no one anticipated that a ticket to see a 14- year-old might end up the most coveted concert docket ever. John Zarrella, CNN, Miami.
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ROESGEN: Presidential candidates get some pretty close scrutiny, but how much is too much?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And lastly, would you tie your shoe so you don't trip over it?
ROESGEN: Tripping along the campaign trail with Jeanne Moos next in the NEWSROOM.
Which marriages have the highest divorce rate? Is it the first marriage, the second marriage, or the third marriage? The answer is after the break.
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ROESGEN: Since we talked about bad marriages earlier tonight, before the commercial break we asked which marriages would you think would have the highest divorce rate? The first marriage, second or the third? The answer, according to divorcerate.org, third marriages. Third marriages have the highest divorce rate, 74%. Apparently the more times you marry, the more times you'll divorce. The divorce rate for first marriages in this country is still about 50%.
We would like to congratulate one of our own today. Fran Lewin has been a journalist for more than 50 years, and this week the University of Missouri paid tribute, awarding her the Missouri Honor Medal for Distinguished Service in Journalism. Fran is a producer here with CNN, but she started out as a reporter for the Associated Press, covering the Kennedy and Johnson administrations. And she always encourages journalists to ask tough questions and put the spotlight on national problems.
Some friendly advice for White House hopeful Hillary Clinton. Tie your shoes. The last thing you want to do on the campaign trail is trip yourself up. CNN's Jeanne Moos as the public's hints for Hillary.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A typical day on the campaign trail. Collecting compliments, posing for photos.
HILLARY CLINTON(D), SENATOR, NEW YORK: I feel like this is my class picture.
MOOS: A candidate can't afford to be tongue-tied, but what about the candidate's shoe?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And, lastly, would you tie your shoe so you don't trip over it?
MOOS: Voters scrutinized the candidates from head to toe, right down to Hillary's Minnetonka moccasins.
CLINTON: I bought these moccasins, which I highly recommend to you, at the Ft. Dodge Museum and Gift Shop. They are so comfortable.
MOOS: And then Hillary got comfortable taking a seat, so she could tie her shoe. Audience members craned their necks to get a better view. Barack Obama in his sensible footwear, Hillary in her moccasins, at least they don't have to worry about stumbling like the Speaker of the House in heels. Never underestimate the power of footwear. In 1952, this photo of Adelaide Stephenson, won a Pulitzer prize and inspired a political ad.
UNIDENTIFIED SINGER: I would rather have a man with a hole in his shoes than a hole in everything he says.
MOOS: And the photos are not only examining a candidate's soul. They getting in her hair. In Iowa, a 84-year-old Hillary supporter brought pictures of his favorite hairstyle to a Hillary event and gave them to her handlers.
VOICE OF ERNEST KELLENBERGER, CLINTON SUPPORTER: She's look so much better if she fixed her hair like Paris Hilton did. She would look like a real dignified person.
MOOS: But, you know Paris Hilton isn't very dignified. You know, she's pretty wild. That didn't deter Ernest Kellenberger. He loves Paris' up-swept look, reminds him of old movie stars. So he went to the library and they printed out pictures of Paris from the internet so he could give them to Hillary. But, you know, my producer said you said something about her looking like she just got out of bed.
MRS. KELLENBERGER: Oh, he says that about every woman that doesn't fix her hair like he thinks it should be fixed.
MOOS: That's Ernest's wife chiming in. He just hates what he calls 'straggly, straight hair.'
KELLENBERGER: And the crooked part, most of them got a crooked part.
MOOS: At the website 'Politico' they put Hilton's fair on Hillary's face, Paris Clinton for President. And as if having your shoes and your hair scrutinized weren't bad about enough, beware of pacing in front of the middle-class express. Lest it express this. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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ROESGEN: Wearing comfortable shoes here at the CNN center in Atlanta, I'm Susan Roesgen.
The next hour of NEWSROOM with Tony Harris starts right now.
HARRIS: Are we on the edge of a water war? A major drought in the south has fed a political fire. Who needs more water and who has enough? Plus, Blackwater new eyewitness accounts of the fatal shooting incident in Baghdad at odds with the official version.
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JASON HURD, INSPECTOR, L.A. COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT: Traffic is snarled, and it's on a Saturday. You can only imagine what it will do if this interchange happens to be closed during a weekday.
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HARRIS: A major California freeway still shutdown after a big rig accident turns a tunnel into an inferno, we will take you to the scene live in just moments. And welcome, everyone, to the CNN NEWSROOM, I'm Tony Harris. CNN has learned that two people have died in that chain- reaction pileup in an interstate tunnel north of Los Angeles. Many hours later, intense heat from the wreckage is still causing troubles for emergency crews and the important tunnel may have suffered some structural damage. With the latest from the scene, CNN's Peter Viles, Peter, good to see you. This event happened hours ago now. It really has been slow going for firefighters.
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