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Did Drug Cartel Smuggle Terrorists Into U.S.?; Hillary`s Radical Summer; Wounded Soldiers Asked to Return Bonuses

Aired November 26, 2007 - 19:00   ET

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GLENN BECK, HOST (voice-over): A new report shows the dangers to national security.

Plus, it`s the summer she`d like to forget. A young Hillary Clinton reportedly interned for a firm that defended accused communists and draft dodgers. Will this hurt her campaign for the White House?

And an insult to our troops. Why some soldiers who have been seriously wounded overseas are being asked to refund their bonus money.

All this and more tonight.

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BECK: Hello, America. I want to talk to you tonight about a little concept called the truth.

I`m not a journalist. I`m just a commentator on TV and on radio. It is my job. That`s what I`m paid to do, is to tell you the truth as I understand it. But there are times I don`t understand the truth. I don`t even know if we understand the concept of the truth anymore in America.

Politicians lie to us, and we accept it. The media has agenda. Sponsors have an agenda. Global corporations have an agenda. You can go to the Internet and try to find the truth, but people can go in and change things on the Internet. I don`t even believe my eyes anymore, because they can doctor pictures. What is the truth? Well, here`s "The Point" tonight.

The "Washington Times" says dozens of terrorists might have paid drug lords to be smuggled over our unprotected border. Maybe. Then again, maybe not. I`m going to ask some tough questions about this story in just a second, but first, here`s how I got there.

In the "Washington Times" story today, the paper claimed that it had obtained FBI documents warning other law enforcement agencies about as many as 60 Iraqi and Afghani terrorists who had been struggled into the U.S. in underground tunnels. I mean, who wouldn`t have seen that one coming? It sounds reasonable so far, right?

I`m sure that the tunnels normally are only used for poor, innocent folks that just want to help us do the jobs that Americans just won`t do. But that`s the thing. Unfortunately, when you leave the door wide open, you don`t get to choose who comes through it.

According to the article in the "Washington Times," the FBI sources say that the terrorists had their heads shaved and their beards shaved so as to not appear to be Middle Easterners. They were snuck across the border at a little hot spot you might have heard of called -- what is it? Oh, yes, Laredo, Texas, where it`s all sunshine and lollipops.

Well, once they got to Laredo, Texas, they could all go claim their weapons, conveniently smuggled into Arizona and New Mexico separately by the very helpful drug cartel.

For this service, the terrorists allegedly paid $20,000 each, or the equivalent in weapons because, you know, you want to have an alternative way of paying for things. I mean, you know what they say: $20,000 in terrorist weaponry, it`s everywhere you want to be. You know what I`m saying?

Well, what were the terrorists supposed to do once they arrived here? Well, according to the "Washington Times," attack our nation`s largest intelligent training center, Fort Huachuca, conveniently located 20 miles north of the southern border.

The documents were based on a source that has proved credible in the past, along with a sub-source in the cartel. You know, those drug runners aren`t usually reliable. But our government apparently found the threat credible enough to actually change the security measures at the base, at least for a while, to protect the 12,000 people who work at the base, along with their families. OK?

America, here`s what you need to know tonight. It is likely that this story is absolutely true. It is equally likely that this is a complete false story. I don`t know. Our sources here at CNN, credible journalists with even more credible inside sources, are saying the story is, frankly, complete bull crap. I don`t know. Maybe. Maybe not.

Let`s start with a reporter. Why write this story? Sara Carter broke the story for the "Washington Times" as it appeared today.

Sara, I have to tell you, I have heard from credible sources in Washington, D.C. Throughout the afternoon. We`ve talked to several journalists here at CNN who also say not true: this story is old news, and it didn`t pan out.

Can you help me with the truth on this?

SARA CARTER, "WASHINGTON TIMES": Yes. I`d be happy to fill you in on that. The story opened with the changing of security measures at Fort Huachuca military post.

One of the reasons I wrote this story is I`d visited Fort Huachuca just last month. So I`m very familiar with the post and the training that goes on there.

When I came across these documents, I contacted the FBI immediately. Actually, that was on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving. I spoke to them about the documents. That was in Washington, D.C.

They reported back to me that they were working together with various law enforcement agencies. And what they said was this is based on raw data.

BECK: Homeland security is saying that they did change the security procedures at the base. But the very next day, six months ago, they changed them back, because they said there was no credibility to the story. Why would the FBI tell you differently?

CARTER: I just was on the phone with the Department of Defense, and I was speaking to people at the base, and no one had said that. I was talking to people directly on the base, and security measures were changed.

And as far as I know and the report that I had written and the people that I`ve spoken with, nothing else has been re-changed. They did change security measures, and those security measures are still in place.

BECK: OK. So you`re standing by the story?

CARTER: Oh, absolutely. I mean, look, these are documents from May. This is based on an FBI advisory to law enforcement agencies. And it`s also based on DEA intelligence.

And now, the DEA intelligence, the primary source, is highly credible. The sub-source, as it`s stated in the story, is somebody connected to the drug cartels. So the sub-source is questionable.

But I`ve spoken to intelligence sources, also very credible intelligence sources, that said not all of this was inaccurate.

For example, part of the story may have been -- he may have exaggerated some of the story. But a lot of it may be truthful, as well, the use of the tunnels, the movement of persons being smuggled into the United States, and the type of weapons, certain types of weapons that could be smuggled into the U.S.

So absolutely. I mean, this is based on documented fact.

BECK: OK. Sara, thank you. We will follow this story.

I want to turn to Congressman Jon Culberson. He is from Texas.

Congressman, help me find the truth, for the love of Pete. I don`t know. When it comes to the border, everything is a lie.

REP. JON CULBERSON (R), TEXAS: Glenn, the best way that I have found to get to the truth is to talk to the officers on the scene, on the border, the local sheriff, the local Border Patrol sector chief, because I have given up trying to get the truth or accurate information out of homeland security headquarters in Washington.

And I can tell you that I have confirmed, Glenn, in sworn testimony before my appropriations subcommittee, the FBI, for example, knows about Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists that have been smuggled over the southern border.

BECK: OK. That is not the same story that the "Washington Times" is reporting, but these are other terrorists that you have sworn testimony they have come over?

CULBERSON: I have sworn testimony from the FBI. We`ve seen it in published reports as well in the San Antonio paper. The FBI director came in to the San Antonio office for breaking up a Hamas terror smuggling operation.

But as far as Fort Huachuca, I`ve always found, personally, Sara Carter to be very reliable and credible.

And as far as the Iraqi intelligence officers, Glenn, at Fort Huachuca I was able to confirm independently of Sara that the -- that homeland security was -- that we had brought, the United States, Iraqi intelligence officers at taxpayer expense into the United States to train them in counterterrorism operations at not only Fort Huachuca but in Alabama and other bases. And there were published reports that one of those Iraqi terrorists -- one of those Iraqi officers walked out of the base in Alabama and disappeared.

And I have also heard reports that I`ve confirmed independently also of Sara that several of those Iraqi intelligence officers at Fort Huachuca just disappeared, carrying out undoubtedly drawings of the base, information as to which Army U.S. officers to take out and most damage our counterterrorism operations.

Much like the Zetas, Glenn, I think it`s important to draw the parallel here for your listeners. The Mexican military sent an elite group of officers to Fort Bragg about a decade ago to be trained at U.S. expense at Fort Bragg to fight the drug lords.

The drug lords waved a lot of cash under their nose, and they are now working as the Zetas for the drug lords. And I think we could see that with these Iraqi intelligence officers that walked out of Fort Huachuca.

BECK: Yes. OK. Congressman, this is the frustration of America. They no longer trust anybody. They no longer trust anybody.

We -- look, we know that the border is being controlled by drug money. We know the border is being controlled by big business money. The mayors and nobody down there wants to say it`s out of control because they need the business, the companies need the business.

We know that the -- the country is at least going together -- going down this road of knitting Canada and Mexico together, at least in a trade situation. And you can`t have those borders sealed.

Good God in heaven, man, if something like this does happen -- and I don`t know if this "Washington" story -- "Washington Times" story is true. If something like this does happen, the American people, if we`re lucky, knit themselves back together like we did after 9/11, but we come with torches to Washington.

CULBERSON: Right. Glenn, I have become so frustrated and fed up with headquarters in Washington, I just literally -- you`ve got to go straight to the officers on the border on the ground, Glenn, the local community. We need to take back the border the same way the passengers in Flight 93...

BECK: But how do you do it?

CULBERSON: You do it by, for example, Glenn, I`m on the appropriations subcommittee. And I successfully persuaded the local Border Patrol sector chief, Carlos Carrillo (ph) in Laredo. Beginning October 30, they are arresting every single illegal alien that crosses the border into Laredo. That`s working. It`s working in Del Rio.

BECK: The things that you`re doing, Congressman, we have talked about on the program and the things that you`re doing are working. I want to have you come back and please address to the American people what they can do. Because I`m a citizen. And it`s "we, the people" that are in charge, but we`re not being listened to.

If this story is completely false, which it may be, you know what? One of these days it ain`t going to be false. I want to know specifically from you, and I don`t have time now, but I want to know specifically from you what can we the people as individuals do, besides calling up our congressman and not being listened to?

Congressman, thank you very much. Now...

CULBERSON: It`s good to be with you, Glenn.

BECK: You bet.

Another intern story. This time involving the Clintons, except Hillary is the focus. How a summer internship held back in 1971 could come back to haunt her. Why would this make a difference?

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BECK: Well, happy Cyber Monday, everybody. And I hope you had a beautiful Black Friday. But before you and your mouse drop from shopping, I have some news about our true state of the economy that Santa may not be able to fix. That`s coming up in "The Real Story" in just a few minutes.

But first, we turn to my favorite -- what does she call herself? Modern progressive, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Seems the self-characterization isn`t so modern after all.

I want to take you back to 1971, when a young Yale law student named Hillary Rodham did a summer clerkship in Oakland, California, at a law firm there, Treuhaft, Walker & Burnstein.

OK. So far you`re saying to yourself, "Oh, boy, where`s the remote control?" Uninteresting, mildly boring. Not so much. Because the kind of cases that the future senator of New York may or may not have worked on for the infamous left-wing firm -- two partners were members of the Communist Party, by the way. That`s about as left as you can go.

They would have included the defense of Black Panther Huey Newton for the 1967 killing of an Oakland police officer, a Berkeley student activist -- which to me is kind of redundant -- that was denied admission to the bar for inciting a violent riot which left one guy dead.

And finally, there was the case of child custody. Guess which one Hillary Rodham Clinton is on record of actually working on. Yes. That last one.

But regardless of almost 40 years that have passed between that crazy summer of radicalism in California and the calculatingly moderate presidential campaign of today, people`s past experiences so often inform their current choices.

So isn`t it responsible to ask the question, how much of communist Treuhaft, Walker & Burnstein stayed or walked out of that office with Hillary Clinton?

Josh Gerstein is the reporter from the "New York Sun" who wrote the story for today`s edition. And also David Horowitz is a conservative author and president of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture. He`s also a dope-smoking hippie from the `60s that was a radical raised by communists. So I thought he might be able to comment on this one.

But let me start with Josh quickly.

Josh, give me the -- give me the core facts on this story. Not the speculation but the real facts on this story.

JOSH GERSTEIN, "NEW YORK SUN": Well, Glenn, basically, what happened here was Hillary Clinton was at Yale in the early `70s, in 1970, `71, could have pretty much had her choice of law firms and different legal organizations and non-profit groups to work from.

And she picked, of all the firms in the country, to go to what was probably one of the No. 1 or No. 2 most left-wing radial law firms in the country, which is Treuhaft, Walker & Burnstein. It was also all the way across the nation on the West Coast, a place she`d never lived before.

So it was a pretty significant choice for her to go all the way across the country and spend her summer working at this firm that was rather obscure, but to those people who knew about it was known for its left-wing ties.

BECK: Any -- any possibility she just didn`t know what she was walking into? You said, you know, it was kind of off the radar. But it was -- at a time when communists were not popular, it was run by two communists.

GERSTEIN: Yes. I mean, there`s some chance she didn`t know exactly the history of some of the partners. I can`t tell you for sure that she knew that they were communists before she got there.

But it seems like she must have known the kind of work this firm did, and she did go all the way across the country to this firm. If she wanted to just handle child custody cases, there are plenty of those in New York City. There are plenty of those in Washington, D.C., or back in Illinois, where she was from.

BECK: OK.

GERSTEIN: So it seems like a decided effort on her part. But exactly why she did it, I can`t tell you for sure.

BECK: All right. Let me go to David Horowitz.

And David, I asked for you to be on the program because you were a -- you were a radicalized guy. You were raised by communist parents. You were part of this movement. But then you had a pivot point where you went, "Uh-oh, wait a minute. Look who I`m in bed with," and you changed.

I don`t have a problem with people`s pasts. Quite frankly, I could care less about the whole swift boat thing. What people did in their past, if they recognize it and say, "Yes, I was part of this, but this is what I learned from it," it`s not so bad.

Why should people pay attention to this story today from 1971?

DAVID HOROWITZ, AUTHOR, "INDOCTRINATION U.": You just put your finger on it. If you`ve been involved in destructive behaviors and have come out of that, you tend to want to talk about it and warn other people and distance yourself from people with destructive behaviors, where she stayed in that nexus.

What you didn`t mention was when she was in New Haven, she worked for the defense. By the way, her mentor in Yale Law School was Thomas Emerson, another communist. But she worked on a trial for the defense where the defendants were Black Panthers who had tortured a young black man by pouring boiling water on his chest and then took him out and executed him.

So -- I was involved with the Panthers at that time and, actually, the communist lawyer, the firm, Bob Treuhaft and his wife, Jessica Mitford, I was at their house for a fund-raiser, as Hillary was, in New Haven, for the Black Panthers.

It was a kind of interesting event because David Hilliard, the Black Panther that punched out Tom Hayden and broke up the whole meeting, saying Hayden hadn`t been forthright in his defense of the Panthers on trial.

BECK: All right. Let me go back to Josh here for a second.

First of all, they`re going to -- people are going to claim that, you know -- because Bush had this information, the first Bush, or the GOP did in `92 and decided not to use it because it was about a spouse of somebody that was running.

But they`re immediately going to come out and say, OK, what corporation are you for, or you know, is the GOP shoving this down your throat, Josh? Who are you in bed with? How would you respond?

GERSTEIN: Well, I would respond that the stuff in the article mostly comes directly from the mouths of the people that were involved at the time.

The two partners from the law firm that I spoke to, they`re the ones who describe it as a left-wing firm. They`re the ones who say they were communists. I`m not say -- I`m not calling them communists the way you run around and call people names. That`s what they say.

And who thought it would be used against Hillary in political campaigns? Jessica Mitford, the wife of one of these lawyers, said she was sure it was prime meat, and it would be rolled out during that presidential bid. So this is information that`s coming from people that are even more left-wing than Hillary is, by any stretch of the imagination.

BECK: Josh, David, thank you very much.

Coming up, a story that is going to make your head explode, as if that one didn`t make it explode. Grab the duct tape and wrap the head. American soldiers, seriously wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, being asked to return some of their bonus money? You`re kidding, right?

And shoppers came out in force this holiday weekend, but was Black Friday big enough to help the economy? Don`t miss tonight`s "Real Story," coming up.

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BECK: The men and women who make up our armed forces represent the very best that we as a country have to offer. Day after day they put themselves in harm`s way so we can live without fear.

When I saw a story last week about what our Pentagon is doing to our wounded soldiers -- they want them to actually give back some of the bonus money that they got when they signed up -- blood started just shooting out of my eyes. I wonder who we are sometimes.

Paul Rieckhoff is founder and executive director of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.

Paul, the Pentagon now is saying that this was just some sort of an error. This -- nobody was really asked to turn this money back in. That was just a clerical error. Do you buy that?

PAUL RIECKHOFF, FOUNDER/EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN VETERANS OF AMERICA: I don`t, Glenn. I think it`s an inexcusable error, even if it was what someone considered an error.

Anytime our soldiers are wounded in combat they`ve literally put life or limb on the line. And the idea that this soldier, Private First Class Jordan Fox, who has gotten a bit of news attention lately, has to pay back $3,000 of a signing bonus because he was wounded is absolutely inexcusable.

It`s also, if it is an error, something they knew about at the Pentagon since July. The president`s commission on wounded warriors, headed by Bob Dole and Donna Shalala, brought this to Congress and brought this to the Department of Defense way back in July.

So they`ve had plenty of time to act on this, but unfortunately, it`s taken the courage of one young service member to really make it a national issue.

BECK: Right. And this -- this was brought to the attention by Private First Class Fox, and he said that it couldn`t have been an error, because they gave another notice to him in the meantime that said we`re now going to start charging you fines for the money.

RIECKHOFF: Absolutely. They wanted to charge him interest. And this was a soldier who had a back injury, almost lost an eye due to an improvised explosive device that exploded near his vehicle.

So this guy`s dealing with enough already. He shouldn`t have to have the Department of Defense tracking him down for money that he`s entitled to anyway as a part of his initial signing bonus.

So our organization and others are very upset about this. And there`s a way people can get involved. They can go to our Web site, IAVA.org. There`s legislation pending. We need to get every member of Congress signed onto this bill to make sure this is fixed immediately.

BECK: I`ve got to tell you, America, you`re going to get your health care from these weasels? What, are you out of your mind? This is the way we treat our heroes.

You said a minute ago, you said that Private First Class Fox had courage. There are a lot of people that this has happened to, but they haven`t had the courage. Why are -- why are veterans afraid to speak out?

RIECKHOFF: I think that they may be worried that this is going to endanger their benefits, that maybe it will slow it down even further. Some of them are still in National Guard and Reserve. Five hundred thousand people who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan are part of our reserve component force.

So they may be reluctant to step forward. They`re worried about being blacklisted or some kind of retribution.

But they should contact our organization or contact their congressmen if they`ve had this type of problem arise, because it`s absolutely inexcusable. They will be protected. And we and other organizations that support veterans will do everything we can to get it fixed.

BECK: Yes. Veterans have 350,000 claims that have not been filed yet. They filed them, and they haven`t been paid. Three hundred and fifty thousand.

Let me tell you something. If you are a vet and you`re watching this show and you`ve got a problem, you either get it to Paul and his organization or you get it to me. This is absolutely inexcusable. And we will take care of it. It`s the right thing to do.

Paul, thank you very much.

RIECKHOFF: Thank you, Glenn. Appreciate it.

BECK: You bet.

Coming up, our economy, no matter what anybody says, is in trouble. If you think that Black Friday or Cyber Monday is going to pull us out of it, think again. I`ll tell you. Tonight`s "Real Story," next.

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BECK: Well, today Al "The Green machine" Gore and president bush spent some quality time together in the Oval Office. Yeah. I bet that was awkward. I`ll explain later on in the show.

But first, welcome to "The Real Story." Not that you need more evidence about what a loser I am. But while most people were enjoying their holidays, I was looking for stories that businesses or the government tried to release while no one was paying attention because we were all stuffing our face with turkey. It`s actually called a story dump. And there were three that caught my eye.

The first story is about 5,000 U.S. troops heading home from Iraq starting tomorrow. Really? According to the military, their brigade will not be replaced, and the withdrawal is an indication of the quote "overall improved security within Iraq."

News flash to the military. It`s hard enough to get good news from Iraq into the media. Dumping it on Thanksgiving weekend really is not helping.

Story number two. Ever wonder where all these suicide bombers in Iraq are really coming from? Well, I mean, unless you read the paper on Thanksgiving Day, you`d have no idea that 60 percent of the insurgents who came to Iraq from in the last year were coming from two countries that are viewed by our government as allies in the war on terror -- Saudi Arabia and Libya. But hey, we`re not slaves to foreign oil at all. Really, we`re not.

And finally, story number three. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. They need billions of dollars in capital to stay solvent if the credit crisis continues. Our good friends Freddie and Fannie were hoping that everybody would be too busy with friends, with alcohol last week to pay any attention.

But unfortunately for them, the real story is I don`t have any friends and I`m a recovering alcoholic. So I`ve got nothing but lots of sober time on my hands. One estimate says that these three companies may have to raise as much as $4 billion because of bad loans. That could put their entire business at risk. Something that`s kind of important given that these are the same two companies that our politicians think will bail out homeowners if things get bad.

Mark Zandi is the chief economist and co-founder of Moody`s economy.com.

Mark, I saw a report, this actually came from the A.P., the headline was "New Wave of Mortgage Failures Could Create a Nightmare Economic Scenario." Two million homeowners hold $600 billion in sub prime that`s due to reset in the next eight months." What`s that story mean? What does that mean to the average person?

MARK ZANDI, MOODY`S ECONOMY.COM: Well, it does mean that many homeowners are having trouble making their mortgage payments, mortgage quality`s eroding, defaults are rising, foreclosures are surging and that`s going to continue through 2008 and 2009.

And of course that has significant problems for those homeowners but broader problems from other households who want to borrow, the credit`s going to be much less ample and of course it`s creating all kinds of problems in the global financial system which runs risks for everybody.

BECK: Right. And this is why our dollar hits another record low over the weekend. People are seeing our credit problems not just with homeowners and credit cards but also with the national debt and they`re starting to say I don`t think America`s a real good investment. Am I reading that wrong?

ZANDI: I think that`s fair. Global investors are very nervous. Their mortgage investments are going south, and that`s a problem for them. And they see the Federal Reserve as lowering interest rates. And that lowers the return on the investments that they`re making in this country. So they are nervous, yeah.

BECK: Everybody keeps saying -- you know, I don`t know how anybody trusts anybody on television because I`ve talked to a lot of people that are on TV saying oh, no, everything`s great. And then you get off camera and they`re like hey, keep saying this, shooting straight, brother the with the American people because somebody`s got to say it. I`m like, wait a minute, wouldn`t that be you? I don`t know. Because everybody`s got an investment and nobody really wants to say anything bad about the economy.

How do you get the real straight scoop? Everybody says the economy is fine, the underpinnings are just, you know, hunky-dory, yet Citigroup keeps saying, well, wait a minute, maybe we miscalculated, it might be a little worse than we said just about three weeks ago. When do we know we`re safe?

ZANDI: Well, it`s changing. Those views are changing. Former secretary of the treasury Lawrence Summers wrote an editorial saying he thought the odds of recession were very high, more likely than not and I think a lot of mainstream economists myself included now believe recession is a very significant possibility. So I think those voices of concern are getting through at this point.

BECK: OK. I read something over the weekend about the generational storm that`s coming our way when baby boomers start to dump out of the economy, and they said we`re just not going to be able to afford some of the stuff that we`ve got. The best advice this person gave was save. Save, save, save. Good advice? What would you do? What was the one piece of advice you would give the average viewer?

ZANDI: Oh, well, saving and the most appropriate thing to do. Most Americans don`t save anything at all. They borrow. And of course you`ve got to pay those debts back at some point. So the key thing for most households, particularly younger households, is save now because you`ll be able to enjoy life a bit more in your later years.

BECK: OK. Thanks, Mark.

Now, in the last chapter of my new book "An Inconvenient Book" I basically make the case that special interest groups and big businesses, the ones that are taking your money, are now in control of our immigration policy.

I have been called crazy, and I`ve got to shoot straight with you, America, I don`t want to believe this crap. I really don`t. I think it is nuts. But I also believe it`s the truth. Some people say it`s nothing but a conspiracy theory. But the real story is I can tonight offer you an ironclad concrete example of exactly how the whole cycle works.

I want you to consider Western Union. This is a place where you used to go if you desperately needed your parents to wire you some cash. Well, believe it or not, a major portion of their billion-dollar business is dependent on illegal immigration. Or what do they call it? Global migration. One study says that at least 40 percent of Latin Americans who use money transfer companies like Western Union are illegal immigrants.

And now these companies know it. And they`re exploiting it. Back in 1999 Western Union actually sponsored a lunch for detained illegal immigrants. Hmm. They gave them t-shirts and bandannas and flyers, all with their 800 number on it.

In fact, the second an illegal alien walks out of a detention facility these days, they are most likely going to receive a marketing pitch from Western Union.

Since any new laws or, heaven forbid, any fences would be built, they would hurt their business and Western Union has taken up quite an interesting politics these days. They`ve donated thousands to groups that support open borders and pathways to citizenship and they oppose politicians who get in their way. Well, tonight you`re going to meet one of these politicians, you`re going to hear what Western Union`s parent company reportedly did to try to make sure he lost his job. In 60 seconds.

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BECK: We`re back talking about how money transfer company Western Union and others like them profit from illegal immigration. As a result, they`ll do everything they can to make sure our borders remain open, and that includes influencing political campaigns. Congressman and presidential candidate Tom Tancredo knows this all too well.

He represents the Denver suburb where Western Union is based. And he has gone head to head with them on several occasions. First thing you tried to do, Tom, was stop them from sending money overseas tax-free. You wanted to tax this money, right?

TANCREDO: I said, yes, we ought to tax the money. And I also said that we should reduce the amount of -- and this is -- I think this is what really got them. I have to tell you. Because after I said this they went ballistic.

But I said I think we`ve got to reduce the amount of foreign aid that goes to any country by the amount of remittances from their nationals working here, mostly illegally, to their country.

BECK: Oh, that`s great.

TANCREDO: And they just went crazy, man. So I know we must have hit a nerve with that. And that`s when the next day they actually held a press conference to establish a PAC essentially to defeat me.

BECK: Tom, I have to tell you and be real honest with you on a personal note here. You were on last week, I think it was last week you were on the show.

TANCREDO: Yeah.

BECK: And I mentioned this today on the air, that the last time I saw you I thought you looked tired and worn out. You are a guy who has been ringing this bell and beating this drum for years. You were one of the first people that had any kind of credibility that said this is about big business, it`s about governments merging with another, our sovereignty is being taken. How are you doing?

TANCREDO: Well, it`s a challenge. That`s true. I have spent a lot of time in airports and a lot of time in hotels and don`t get the right rest and don`t get the right food, and I certainly don`t hp anything because I`m not much of an exercise person. You know, you do what you can. I`m home in Colorado now. I`ve had a couple good nights` sleep. That makes a big difference.

BECK: Well, I applaud you for continuing to speak out because there`s nobody that wants to hear this news in government or in business. You say that the people from Western Union actually provided guides in Spanish on exactly how to protect yourself. It appears as though they`re doing everything they can to help illegal immigrants.

TANCREDO: They are. They absolutely want those borders open. I guess they really don`t care whether they`re legal or not. They just want a huge flow of people coming into this country from all over because of course the remittances.

Now, remember, they are of course aided and abetted, if you will, by the Mexican government that does everything it can to keep those borders open for the same reason. They saw last year about $26 billion coming into their economy from their nationals working here.

BECK: Well, the Arizona attorney general says that that money, a lot of it, is being used for human -- going right to human smugglers.

TANCREDO: Smugglers. That`s exactly right.

By the way, Glenn, just an interesting little factoid. The last I heard, and this is now probably dated information because it may be about a year old or so. But when this whole issue came up with First Data, which owned Western Union at the time, I said that -- and we found out that there were seven countries in the world that had more than 10 percent of their gross domestic product a result of the remittances from their nationals working in the United States. And that was -- Jordan was one. Jordan.

BECK: Unbelievable.

Just so you know, America. Western Union, five times more locations than McDonald`s, Starbucks, Burger King and Wal-Mart combined. Congressman, thank you very much. Keep up the good fight. That`s "The Real Story" tonight.

If you`d like to read more about it, please pick up a copy of my new book "An Inconvenient Book." Read chapter 22. Read it in a bookstore, don`t buy the damn book. Just know this. This is all the truth behind who and what is really controlling our borders. I give you the names of the people, the companies, and the groups that are all behind it. This is important stuff, and it`s in "An Inconvenient Book." You can order your copy right now at glennbeck.com.

It`s also available in bookstores everywhere.

Now, coming up, new evidence surfaces in the Natalee Holloway case. But is it enough to put somebody behind bars for her death? We`ll have the latest.

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BECK: There is a movement in America, and I have been warning against it, and the only thing that`s going to stop it is to not be a Republican, not be a Democrat, but be an American. Care more about the country. Care more about the whole picture than just your picture. Care more about the country than the political office. Than if it`s a donkey or an elephant. Make sure they understand they`re not the ones with power, we are, we the people.

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BECK: Joran Van der Sloot went before a judge in closed hearing this afternoon in Aruba to face charges that he`s responsible for the death of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway back in 2005. I`ve got to tell you, this story pisses me off because we`ve got 21 missing Americans down on the border and one person missing in Aruba. No body has ever been found. Bad news for Joran is that Aruban law doesn`t require a body for trial.

You know, between you and me, and I can say this because I have absolutely no legal training or journalistic credibility whatsoever, but come on. The kid`s guilty, right? It`s like Michael Jackson and O.J. Simpson all over again. Kind of seems like a slam dunk. But then again, maybe I`m wrong. Mickey Sherman, who is a criminal defense attorney, says that I absolutely am.

Pam Bondi, Florida state prosecutor, says I`m right. Let me start with you, Mickey. Tell me how wrong I am that this kid didn`t do it.

MICKEY SHERMAN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, it`s round up the usual suspects again. I mean, first they arrested these two other guys, then they arrested these guys, then they un-arrested them, now they arrested them again.

BECK: But honestly, I mean, honestly, Mickey, the thing that everybody thinks of Aruba, you know, is hey, go for a good time and, you know, swim in the sun and everything else. Why would the government of Aruba bring this up again if they didn`t have something hardcore?

Because you know, I saw a billboard going into the Lincoln Tunnel about a year ago. It was the worst billboard I`ve ever seen. It said "Your last glimpse of daylight. Come to Aruba."

I thought, that`s really not a good slogan. Now I`m kind of past it. Why would they want to bring this up if they didn`t have hardcore evidence?

SHERMAN: I think they`re doing it because they want to show they`re doing everything possible to make this thing safe. Plus they`ve got a change command, a new prosecutor down there and he wants to show he`s not going to do a lousy job like the old guys did that it`s a new deal, a new sheriff in town and he`s going clean it up and he`s going to solve the case.

BECK: Pam, they say they have hardcore evidence that they know she`s dead and they know these guys did it. What is that evidence?

SHERMAN: Well, Glenn, all we know now is what they`re telling us is they have -- and this is the prosecutor coming out and saying this. "We have compelling evidence and if we had that evidence back then they would have never been released when they were released previously." so they have to have new evidence. I can speculate they probably had wiretaps on their phone. Glenn, this is how we catch people all the time. You let them go, you let them out, they think it`s died down and they can`t help themselves but talk.

And even if you have Mickey Sherman to defend you, you can`t control your clients when they`re out there unless you gag them. And these kids are going to talk.

BECK: All right. I mean, to me I don`t -- I mean, this is the perfect place to commit a crime if you`re going to murder somebody because you chop the body up and throw it out in the water and the sharks get it I don`t mean to be gruesome here but you chop the body here and you throw it out into the water and the sharks get it.

What is Natalee Holloway`s father -- and hey-f it was my kid, I`d be doing everything I could as well. But they`re going after -- and they`re going into deep seas. The body would be gone. There`s no way this body would be found in deep seas. Mickey?

SHERMAN: It`s hard to say anything negative against a parent who`s lost a child .

BECK: I don`t .

SHERMAN: But having said that, having apologized in advance, you know, he wrote a book, he was on a book tour. I don`t know. I`m just so skeptical about this. It seems like such a useless wasteful effort to start searching deep seas two years after is, again, I just -- I don`t question his motives, but I question his means. I just think it`s .

BECK: Are you telling me that somebody -- you think somebody would sell out their values for a book?

SHERMAN: Not a question of values, but it just seems like the profiteering on it is unseemly.

BECK: OK. What is the likelihood that these guys walk again, Pam?

PAM BONDI, FLORIDA STATE PROSECUTOR: Well, I hope they don`t walk. And I really don`t think the prosecutors and the FBI would subject themselves to this again. It had died down. It`s been quiet. Unless they had substantial evidence. And Glenn, one other point. We prosecute murders without bodies. Not all the time, but we`ve done it. We`ve got a guy on death row right now who we prosecuted and never found the body.

BECK: Would you have ever as a prosecutor, ever made the comments that they have made? It sounds to me like they`ve got DNA or they`ve got the wire -- they`ve got something huge. Would you in your wildest dreams ever make this kind of comment, oh, we`ve got them nailed? Without having them nailed.

Right. No way. Especially after all the Nifong stuff. You know, they`ve heard all that. And that`s why I believe they must have compelling evidence to subject themselves to this scrutiny again.

BECK: OK. Mickey, Pam, thanks a lot. Coming up next, al gore finally gets his moment in the Oval Office. But when we come back, I`ll share with you the uncomfortable reunion that will make your family Thanksgiving look like a pre prison Martha Stewart special.

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BECK: Well, I don`t know about you, but I feel better. Al Gore has finally figured out a path to the White House. He figures if you just have an international organization pick you for an award then you can hope that the real president invites you to hang out at the White House.

Yes, President Bush invited the U.S. winners of Nobel Prizes to come to the White House today. Among them, Al Gore. And if you remember correctly, gore won the award for his work on a movie about a slide show about the weather. Don`t you remember how peaceful you felt after watching it? Gore`s work is definitely Nobel worthy. I mean, unlike the other invitees, winners of the Nobel Prize for medicine, Mario something or other from the University of Utah and Oliver Smithies (ph) from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. I mean, all they did was figure out a way to manipulate genes in mice helping science study, you know, heart disease and diabetes and cancer, blady, blady, blady. Big deal. Make a movie about it, and then maybe you can be on "Oprah." Think about that one.

Wouldn`t you love to be there to see this meeting with Al Gore and George Bush at the white house? Do you think it was a tad awkward? I just hope that Al Gore was able to cruise on his private jet for the meeting. That`ll teach that evil George Bush a lesson on how to fight climate change. I`ll tell you that right there.

This of course won`t be the only appearance gore is to make this Christmas season to complain about the climate. He`s also expected to go to Indonesia this weekend along with Leonardo DiCaprio, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and other politicians, TV crews, and environmentalists, to map out the future of the climate change industry -- I mean movement. The summit will attempt to map out the successor to the disastrous Kyoto protocol, the laughable failings I excoriate -- I`m sorry, outline in chapter 1 of "An Inconvenient Book."

What the members of the summit probably won`t be telling you is that their little get-together will spew into the environment almost as much carbon dioxide as the entire African country of Chad does in an entire year.

By the way, on a side note, has anybody noticed that the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize was also the number two man in the administration that originally made regime change in Iraq official U.S. policy? Yeah, that`s pretty inconvenient, huh?

Well, don`t forget, if you want to know what`s on tomorrow`s show, if you`d like a little more in-depth commentary on the news of the day, sign up for my free daily newsletter at glennbeck.com. From New York, good night, America.

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