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President Bush and British Prime Minister Hold News Conference; Pope Benedict XVI Holds Mass in Washington, D.C.; Sailors Accused of Marriage Scam

Aired April 17, 2008 - 15:00   ET

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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Well, if you didn't know the importance of America and Britain and their relationship, you probably know now.
Listen to all the topics they hit on: economies, talking about lowering oil prices, working on housing and development projects. They talked about Africa, training health care workers there to fight HIV/AIDS and malaria. They talked about Iraq and Afghanistan, the British troop support there in both of those countries, also reform and preventing the building awful nuclear weapons in Iran, in addition to fair nonviolent Democratic elections in Zimbabwe, even talking about Darfur, and the fact that they want to create talks with the rebels there, trying to reduce the human suffering in Darfur.

A lot of topics the prime minister of England and the president of the United States discussing today, all in a week where the pope also dominates so much of the news here in Washington, D.C. -- Don.

DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: We are going to move on to other news now. Kyra, thank you.

New developments right now in Texas in the polygamy case we have been following. Child welfare officials and a controversial religious group are holding a court hearing today on the fate of hundreds, hundreds of children.

Straight to San Angelo, Texas, and CNN's Sean Callebs.

Sean, what is breaking? I understand you have some breaking news?

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. The court is in recess right now, but the big news came just moments before that recess. The state said that, while that raid was going on, on the compound, about 45 minutes from the town of San Angelo, they came across a safe that apparently belonged to someone with the FLDS named Richard Barlow (ph). Barlow opened the safe. They got some records out of there.

The state is convinced that those records show that there are 10 or 11 women who were either married as minors or pregnant as minors, very important to the state's case as they move forward and try to prove that children at that compound were physically and sexually abused. That is really the crux of what this whole argument is about. So, that's the way things have unfolded here late in the morning, just before the recess here for lunchtime, Don. LEMON: OK. And you have been saying this, as well as many legal experts we have been having on, Sean, that right now it is the state's burden. The burden of proof is on the state. So, this could be very helpful to them if it turns out to be indeed true.

CALLEBS: Well, it can. But let's take a look at what -- the way this whole day has unfolded.

Early this morning, a long line of people waiting to get inside this courtroom, many of them attorneys, but also members of the FLDS. Once inside, the judge asked the state to begin making its case, was met by a litany of objections. Really, this whole morning's hearing has been characterized by a lot of objections.

A lot of attorneys really have a problem with the way this has unfolded. They're worried about their clients, the children's rights being trampled on. We had a chance to speak with one attorney who was representing a 2-year-old. This attorney has been unable to get very little substantive information from her client.

And just listen to the concerns that she has.

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SUSAN HAYS, ATTORNEY: It's difficult to get the facts of the case when I don't have the typical documentation you would have on a family. I don't have access to the father. I don't have access to any kind of records that may exist. I think CPS has them. I don't know yet.

Right now, we're going on -- for those of us representing very, very young children who can't speak for themselves yet or speak at all, in some cases, we're going on what we know from the mothers and what we know from the court file.

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CALLEBS: Some of the objections were about witnesses. Some were about evidence that was seized at that compound.

Really, the attorneys have a great deal of questions. Also, we have told you time and time again, Don, that all the children must have their own attorneys. Well, they simply can't have every case go through individually.

So, they have broken them down into what they call blocks. And they have assigned these blocks colors, basically, maybe boys 5-years- old and younger, girls 5-years-old and younger, and each of those colored blocks has a lead attorney.

Well, that has caused some consternation for the attorneys as well. They're worried, how can one person speak for the entire group? The judge maintains, look, everybody is going to have a say. You're going to be able to question witnesses.

But right now, it is just a legal quagmire. They're in uncharted territory trying to navigate their way through this as best as possible. But, clearly, this is an uphill struggle.

LEMON: Sean Callebs in San Angelo, Texas -- Sean, thank you.

PHILLIPS: Well, a lot of people who went to see the pope also dropped by a special kiosk that CNN had set up to send us an I-Report. We are going to bring read some of the samplings straight ahead. Abbi Tatton is here with us.

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PHILLIPS: Some 46,000 worshipers went to Washington's Nationals Park to hear the pope this morning. And while not all of them sent us an I-Report, a good many did. I can tell you that.

Our Abbi Tatton has been busy combing through all of them. And I didn't realize that we actually set up a kiosk.

ABBI TATTON, CNN INTERNET REPORTER: Right. It's actually a couple blocks away from Nationals stadium, where that mass happened this morning.

And we keep talking about these 46,000 people that got tickets. But I talked to the archdiocese this week, and you sense some of the pope fever here in Washington -- 200,000 people wanted to go there.

And we have I-Reports from people who just didn't have tickets, but they just wanted to catch a glimpse.

If we can look at the first one we got from the kiosk, this is from Margaret (ph) and Christopher (ph), we take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're here to see the pope today.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No tickets, but we came anywhere just for hope. Anybody out there who has got tickets, we're at Starbucks.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The leader of our church, we're really excited about his visit here. Hopefully, we can get into to see him, at least get a glimpse, that he's energizing our faith here in America. Thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

TATTON: That's just a selection there that you can see at I- Report.com. There's a lot more out there, too.

PHILLIPS: OK. Tell me about just the level of interest. Were you surprise from an I-Report, Internet, Web perspective just how many people were in touch electronically?

TATTON: Absolutely. And this is something we have seen building up through the rest of the week. If you look at local Web site, even sites like eBay, people trying to get tickets, trying to get ahold of tickets to any one of the events, and there are several this week. But it's not just Catholics. There's a wider interest out there.

If we can look at another one of these I-Reports from the kiosk from Frank Palarusu (ph) and get a sense of that.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm here to support the pro-life movement. I'm not Catholic, but I feel it's necessary to take a stance in this world. And it's peace-loving movement. And we're trying to save lives on this planet.

God bless you and have a good day.

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TATTON: Someone else there waiting around this morning. But the pope, as always, has been traveling around this week in the popemobile.

PHILLIPS: Oh, there's got to be a fascination with that.

TATTON: Absolutely. We have got pictures of the pope in the popemobile, if we look at this from Sam Brusher (ph), who was out yesterday.

We have also got pictures of the popemobile sans pope, people really trying to get a sense of what it's like inside there, who is in there. Sam Brusher (ph) said it looks pretty comfy and was a lot smaller than he had imagined.

PHILLIPS: Well, did anything stand out to you as you started going through the pictures, the videos, hearing the stories?

TATTON: I think just the level of fascination from people in Washington, Catholics, people who have traveled from far and wide.

The stories we heard, we heard one story from someone who is online at I-Report.com saying he traveled all the way from Ohio, had a ticket at one point, lost it, and was just doing anything he could to catch another glimpse. There really has been this huge level of interest.

And people can follow along online, CNN.com/pope. That's an interactive site. You can watch the entire journey this week. And also if you look at anyone -- want to see people who have weighing in, I-Report.com, that's where you can upload all your pictures.

PHILLIPS: Terrific. Abbi, thanks so much.

And don't go anywhere. Abbi is going to have a lot more for us just ahead in "THE SITUATION ROOM." And that's of course at the top of the hour with Wolf Blitzer.

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LEMON: Meantime, we want to tell you about other stories we're working on for you today in the CNN NEWSROOM.

A huge child custody hearing began in Texas this morning. At issue, the more than 400 children removed from the Yearning For Zion polygamist compound.

Opposition leaders want the U.N. to set up an international crime court to prosecute those guilty of post-election violence in Zimbabwe. They say their supporters are being brutalized. There are still no official results from Zimbabwe's election, held nearly three weeks ago.

Heavy security as the Olympic torch was carried through New Delhi on its way to the Beijing Olympics. India is the home of the world's largest community of exiles from Tibet. And many Tibetans have been protesting China's control of their country. One exiled group says at least 200 of its members have been arrested.

It is a mystery movie, but not the kind you're used to. We will talk with the man behind "Where in the World Is Osama Bin Laden?

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MILES O'BRIEN, CNN CHIEF TECHNOLOGY AND ENVIRONMENT CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Marilyn Cook (ph) is a cancer survivor.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thought, this can't be happening. This must be a mistake.

O'BRIEN: She is in remission now, but knows all too well the value of early detection. And researchers at Georgia Tech and Emory University in Atlanta say they may have found a novel way to spot cancer sooner.

PAUL DOETSCH, PROFESSOR, EMORY UNIVERSITY: Each kind of human cancer actually excretes proteins that provide us with a signature or a fingerprint, if you will, of that particular kind of tumor.

O'BRIEN: The device, called ACuRay, contains a silicon chip that could spot that fingerprint long before a tumor forms. It can detect eight cancer proteins found in blood or saliva. The chip reacts with the proteins, actually vibrating differently when the markers for cancer are present.

DOETSCH: We believe be used in the future to do things like monitor outcomes following treatment by surgery, radiation and chemotherapy.

O'BRIEN: Even though researchers say the idea is still perhaps a decade away

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If I had the option, I would do it in a heartbeat.

O'BRIEN: Wouldn't we all want to be able to hear the cancer coming and nip it in the bud?

Miles O'Brien, CNN.

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LEMON: Well, we expect to see the pope again in about 90 minutes, but not like this. This was the first public mass of Benedict XVI's first papal visit to America. It took place at Nationals Park in Washington. And these scenes will be repeated on Sunday at Yankee Stadium in New York.

In the meantime, though, a meeting this afternoon with Catholic educators and later with envoys of other faiths.

In his homily and for the third day in a row, the pope addressed the sex abuse scandal in the U.S. Catholic Church. But for many of the victims and their advocates, mere words -- even from a pope -- aren't enough.

David Clohessy is a national director of SNAPS -- Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests.

And he joined me earlier from St. Louis.

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DAVID CLOHESSY, NATIONAL DIRECTOR, SNAP: Here's the most powerful religious figure on the planet, overseeing a billion Catholics, and we think he can and should take tangible steps to safeguard kids, not just mouth pieties.

LEMON: OK. Well, this morning he addressed that in his mass.

Let's take a listen. I want to get your response.

POPE BENEDICT XVI: It is in the context of this hope, one of God's love and fidelity, that I acknowledge the pain which the church in America has experienced as a result of the sexual abuse of minors. No words of mine could describe the pain and harm inflicted by such abuse. It is important that those who have suffered be given loving, personal attention.

LEMON: OK, David, so then he goes on to say, in that same thing, "Great efforts have been made to deal honestly and fairly to this tragic situation and ensure that children, that our lord loves so deeply and who are our greatest treasurers, can grow up in a safe environment.

Is that correct, in your opinion?

CLOHESSY: He's simply is ill-informed. Great efforts have been made by U.S. bishops in terms of public relations. There's been a lot of policies and procedures. But what hasn't happened is real reform. Church officials continue to deceive parishioners, to stone wall prosecutors and to move predators around. And I'm sad that the Holy Father is getting such -- such misinformation from American bishops about what they've been up to.

LEMON: So what do you mean misinformation? Why do you think that's -- why do you think he's getting misinformation?

CLOHESSY: Well, I mean, he relies for advice on men like Cardinal Law and Cardinal Mahoney -- men who have spent decades concealing these crimes. So, needless to say, they're not going to turn to their boss and say, well, we've made paltry efforts to report this abuse.

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LEMON: The pope leaves for New York City in the morning.

PHILLIPS: Well, up next, though, an event close to his heart -- a meeting with Catholic educators from all over the country. That happens about two hours from now at Catholic University, where we find CNN's Brian Todd.

We've been talking about this since yesterday -- Brian.

BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We have, Kyra. Still a very celebratory mood here on the campus of Catholic University. Behind me, some Catholic pilgrims from all over the country are singing, dancing, playing music. And they are anticipating the pope's arrival in less than an hour-and-a-half for that meeting that you mentioned with Catholic educators.

Some serious issues to get into in that meeting. But, also, one that follows that is going to be very heavily watched and that's his meeting with leaders from other religions. At least five other religions will be represented at that meeting in the 6:00 hour tonight. And these relationships that the pope has had with these other religions, namely with Islam and with Judaism, have been a real point of contention since he assumed the papacy.

There's continuing fallout in the Muslim community more recently from his decision to very publicly confirm and convert a prominent Muslim commentator to Catholicism at the Vatican over the Easter weekend. That generated some controversy.

But there's some continued fallout from a speech he gave in 2006 in Germany,, in which he quoted a 14th century Byzantine emperor as saying: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman."

And that was a quote from a 14th century emperor, but -- and the pope said that he was taken out of context, that he only meant that with faith must come reason. But that passage, that quote, set off a firestorm of violence in the Middle East. There were Christian churches that were burned. A Catholic nun was killed in Somalia. Also, the Jewish community has been a little upset with the pope for trying to -- for deciding to reauthorize a prayer of conversion of Jews to Catholicism for the Good Friday services. That's been a bone of contention.

And there's also fallout from another speech he gave at Auschwitz in 2006, in which he spoke about the Nazis as kind of a pagan campaign that was against all believers in God. He barely mentioned the Holocaust. That really put off some Jewish leaders. He's got some real repair work to do in this interfaith meeting tonight, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Well, also, there's a prominent group that's been excluded from this meeting, right, and is that creating a lot of controversy?

TODD: There is. And, you know, the irony, of course, is even his effort here at reconciliation has alienated one religious group and that is the Sikhs. They are the fifth biggest religion in the world, 25 million strong. The Vatican did invite Sikh leaders here and they accepted, but it got to a point where the Secret Service, the U.S. Secret Service, which is the main protective detail for the pope here, could not work out a compromise with the Sikhs, who insisted on wearing their Kirpans.

Those are the traditional ceremonial daggers that they wear, a very important symbol of that faith. The Secret Service basically drew the line, saying nothing even resembling a weapon can get near the pope. They tried to work out compromises, Kyra. They could not do it. A Sikh leader told me today they're still very disappointed in that.

PHILLIPS: Brian Todd.

We'll monitor the media, of course, and talk more about this afterward and also tomorrow.

Thanks, Brian.

LEMON: It is a mystery movie, but not the kind you're used to. We'll talk with the man behind this -- "Where in the World is Osama bin Laden?"

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LEMON: Well, we think this is really going to be worth your while if you pay attention to this next one.

Remember that movie "Super Size Me?" The man who made the documentary, he is out with a new movie. While "Super Size Me" was an investigation into the fast food industry, this new film is something just a little bit different.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Throughout history, mankind has gone to the ends of the Earth to chase the greatest treasurers. Now, the final search begins for the most elusive prize of them all. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yoo-hoo, Osama?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LEMON: OK. Morgan. That's right, Morgan Spurlock's new movie is titled, The new movie is titled "Where in the World is Osama bin Laden?".

He joins me now from New York.

Thank you, sir, for coming on.

Throughout history,

MORGAN SPURLOCK, FILMMAKER: Thank you. Thanks for having me.

LEMON: Why?

SPURLOCK: Why? Why this movie?

LEMON: Why the movie, yes.

SPURLOCK: Well, it's -- I live in New York City. This is a question all of us ask, you know, every single day. You know, I was here on 9/11. And, you know, since then, we all just wonder, you know, where is he, where is he hiding, why haven't we caught him, where in the world is Osama bin Laden? So I went to find out.

LEMON: It seems like, you know, just from that little clip like you're making light of it. But in the movie you're actually not. And you said that you set out to do this. One reason was to demystify Osama bin Laden and his appeal.

SPURLOCK: Absolutely. And, also, one of the other things that happened, once we started kind of going into preproduction on this film, I found out my wife Alex was going to have our first child. So the film also became, for me, a real search to find out what kind of a world am I about to bring a kid into?

LEMON: OK. In order to go into those war zones, because you went to Afghanistan and several other places -- and right in the middle of war zones -- you had to go to war training.

Let's take a look at a little bit of that.

SPURLOCK: Great.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This course is reality based personal protection, teaching you how to survive everything from explosions to small arms attacks to sniper attacks, chemical attacks. We're going to cover it all. We're going to simulate a hand grenade attack.

Boom!

You would have been killed.

How do we where the sniper is at based on our situation here?

SPURLOCK: Hold up a hat on a stick.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're dead here. You want to stay behind that line and you want to stay off the wall. You're dead here. You're dead here.

Now we're going to have a little classroom time about kidnapping. Here are some basics of surviving as a hostage. You've got to accept it and start planning on how you're going to survive it.

SPURLOCK: That's a whole another level of crazy.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LEMON: OK. So that -- it's called hostile environment training. And, if I'm not mistaken, it's done in Georgia, the same one that we take here at CNN.

SPURLOCK: Yes.

LEMON: The serious thing for me was that last thing that you did, when you're actually pretending, you know, that you're in some hostile situation and you're about to be taken hostage.

SPURLOCK: Yes.

LEMON: And, also, staying in that cabin was scarier for me.

(LAUGHTER)

SPURLOCK: Well, I mean it's scary stuff.

LEMON: It really is.

SPURLOCK: I like to call that class the "I hope I never need to know this stuff" class.

LEMON: Yes. Yes, absolutely.

But, I mean, do you -- were you afraid that you would and -- did you in any way find yourself in any position or predicament like this?

And I'm sure you probably did, because you stand out.

SPURLOCK: Oh, yes. I mean, yes. Well, I mean here I am a big 6'2" very pale guy. You know, it's hard for me to fit in. But, you know, we were in situations where the training definitely came in handy. We were at the Gaza Strip when the Hamas militants were firing Kassam rockets onto the town of Sderot, less than a kilometer away.

We were in Afghanistan embedded with the troops when we happened to be in the middle of a Taliban ambush on the local governor's convoy. So there was a lot of places where the training came in handy and it was very scary.

LEMON: Yes. And you needed it. And this -- we won't go to this, but we'll show some of the stuff -- I think you went to an Israeli school.

SPURLOCK: We did.

LEMON: And we can put that video up -- which had been trashed. And then, also, you said you wanted to teach people about different religions.

That's the school. This is in Israel. What had happened to the school, Morgan?

SPURLOCK: Well, this was the school that I was just talking about. You know, about eight hours before this, a rocket had fallen from the Gaza Strip. Luckily, there were no kids in this school. Otherwise, you know, all of them would have been killed. I mean it's tragic.

LEMON: OK. And talk -- you're with the family and you're talking about, what, being a Muslim, right, and praying. And then the little boy -- we can just show it. We don't have to play it up full. If you can put the video there on Nexus.

SPURLOCK: Yes.

LEMON: But as you were doing it, the little boys started praying. And they started making, you know, sort of light of it. Oh, my gosh there you go.

What did they say?

SPURLOCK: Yes, they're saying oh, now everybody is just going to think we pray all the time. And one of the things I think this movie also really does is it shows us a side of Muslims that we don't get to see very often in the United States. I think we just get one picture, one version, you know, of the people who like to scream and yell and talk about how much they hate America. And the majority of the people out there aren't those people.

LEMON: Yes. OK. So here's what -- here's the most serious part of it. You know people criticize the government and the military all the time...

SPURLOCK: Yes.

LEMON: ...saying, well, we can do this, we can do that and we can, you know, we can find Saddam Hussein in a hole.

SPURLOCK: Yes.

LEMON: But why can't we find Osama bin Laden?

SPURLOCK: Yes. LEMON: And before you may have been that cynical, as well. But you said this whole documentary sort of changed your attitude about that?

SPURLOCK: Well, I think that when you start to go over there and see the region where Osama bin Laden is, the military can't just go in there, you know?

It's a region of the country where Afghanistan doesn't have control, Pakistan doesn't have control. It's tribal warlords. You know, we can't just go marching in with the military. It would be a really bad idea.

And the terrain is impossible. I mean it's really difficult to move around. We would have to really get permission and work with other people to go in there. And hopefully one day that will happen.

LEMON: OK. Morgan Spurlock.

"Where in the World is Osama bin Laden?" opens when?

SPURLOCK: It opens tomorrow night.

LEMON: All right.

Thank you, sir.

SPURLOCK: Thank you.

LEMON: Best of luck to you.

SPURLOCK: Bye-bye.

PHILLIPS: Well, she's beautiful and she needs help. He's in the service and they get married.

Was it for love or for money? An alleged scam falls apart and some sailors are in big trouble now. We'll have the details straight ahead in THE NEWSROOM.

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PHILLIPS: Well, it's an old scam that apparently never went away -- young women from overseas with dreams of getting a green card. American servicemen willing to help them out and to benefit from the deal.

Well, a dozen U.S. sailors are named in a federal indictment today alleging marriage fraud.

CNN's Deborah Feyerick following that story from New York -- hey, Deb.

DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Kyra.

And, as a matter of fact, once the indictment was unsealed, a total of 30 names on that indictment, all of them charged with marriage fraud. This was a combination of husbands and wives, bogus couples who got together simply to profit.

Now, the scheme involved U.S. sailors and women from Russia and the Ukraine. They married, in some cases, on the day they met. The payoff is the sailors got thousands of dollars in housing alliances that they weren't entitled to. Their Russian brides were put on the fast track to citizenship. They got green cards, but they also military identification. And even the head of Norfolk's national -- I'm sorry -- Naval Criminal Investigative Services, the NCIS, says this really exposed a vulnerability to national security because of the fact that these women, in some cases, were representing themselves as military wives, even though they weren't even living with their husbands, but had moved to other states and were living with boyfriends, in some cases -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Well, Deb, was there anything else that authorities discovered besides just the deal of marriage? Were they involved in any other type of fraud?

FEYERICK: No. It doesn't look as if they were. But, again, the Navy takes this very, very seriously. Over the last year-and-a-half, more than 70 people have been arrested. And the Navy estimates it cost about half a million dollars.

That's the scheme -- the cost of this particular scheme. And they really want to discourage this because they do believe that it is happening at other naval bases. This is sort of to set an example and send the word that it won't be tolerated -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: And, Deb, they look so young. They look like teenagers.

FEYERICK: Well, they do. And you look at the ages listed on the indictment and all of them in their young 20s. A number of these girls here, they came on student visas -- in some cases, work visas. Once those visas expired, they had to come up with some sort of a plan in order to stay here. So they hooked up with these sailors.

And, in many cases, they either met in bars or restaurants down by the Norfolk Naval Station near Virginia Beach. And they just sort of made verbal agreements that they'd get married and it would benefit both of them.

PHILLIPS: Deb Feyerick on the investigation for us out of New York.

Thanks, Deb.

LEMON: The closing bell a wrap up of all the action on Wall Street just ahead.

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LEMON: All right, here's what you should know. Net users, we have got a huge archive of video reports at CNN.com, all organized and all are searchable. Here are a few of the most popular at the moment.

Look who had them rolling in the aisles at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Vice President Cheney pulled some knee slappers and got big laughs last night.

This guy took over a city bus in King County, Washington to propose to his girlfriend. It's OK, the bus driver was this on it.

And you think she said yes?

Well, or maybe she asked for a transfer. I don't know. You have to go there and see.

And what do you get -- what do you do when your duck gets stuck?

Well, if you have luck, an entire city goes on a rescue mission. They're so cute, I just want to keep looking at them. Water foul and law enforcement in Salt Lake City combined forces. And, yes, this one is a happy ending. You can watch the drama unfold anytime, CNN.com.

PHILLIPS: Loaded with ability despite a disability -- Brett Eastburn was born without arms and legs, but he says he has no handicaps. Eastburn gives motivational speeches and his demonstrations wow audiences like this one at a Greenfield, Wisconsin middle school.

Two foot, 10 inch Eastburn not only dribbles a basketball, he shoots and scores. The former high school varsity wrestler shows that he can still make the moves, pinning a young volunteer. And Eastburn shows that he's a pretty good artist, too. But the pictures he really likes are the faces of the kids who come to see him.

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BRETT EASTBURN, MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER: I get inspired just to see the reaction on their faces. And I think over the course of the hour of the program that I can actually watch their opinions change in their faces. As I come in and as they're loading in, they're just like poor guy to he's awesome.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: Well, Eastburn says that he is really for his next challenge. He wants to become a stand-up comedian -- Don, I...

LEMON: It just...

PHILLIPS: I think he'll...

LEMON: It just...

PHILLIPS: He'll be able to do anything he wants.

LEMON: As I said, it just shows you, if you really want to do something and you put your mind to it, you can really -- you can turn any situation around. Look at him. He's an inspiration now.

PHILLIPS: Yes. The mind is a powerful thing.

You can manifest anything, right?

LEMON: Yes. And it's good seeing you.

Kyra is going to go away for now, because we're at the end of the show.

We're going to see you next week, right?

PHILLIPS: All right. See you next week, Don.

LEMON: OK, Kyra.

Take it easy.

The closing bell is about to ring on Wall Street.

Susan Lisovicz is standing by with a look at the trading day -- hey, Susan.

SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And, also a look at what would be the crown jewel of any home entertainment system.

LEMON: OK. Let's look at it. Oh.

LISOVICZ: I know this would work for you. This is the Yamaha Disklavier Mark IV, which is the modern day adaptation of a player piano. It basically combines modern technology and traditional workmanship. Yahama says it's got hot onboard circuitry and a touch screen wi-fi controller that operates it from anywhere in your home.

Basically, you get the software. You can play thousands of songs, have them played for you. You can combine that with music that matches it and then you can have a live performance, along with Sting or Liberace or whoever -- whoever you want.

"The New York Times" says ranges, the Mark IV, from $4,100 to $150,000. It might be...

LEMON: It sounds way too complicated for me. And too expensive.

LISOVICZ: It might be a tough sell in this economy.

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LEMON: Now we're going to turn it over to "THE SITUATION ROOM" and Mr. Wolf Blitzer -- a special edition, I believe, from Catholic University.

Take it away, Wolf.