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Nancy Grace
Encore: Casey Anthony Interrogation Tapes
Aired January 20, 2009 - 20:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, the desperate search for a beautiful little 3-year-old Florida girl, Caylee, after her grandparents report her missing, little Caylee last seen with her mother. So why didn`t Mommy call police?
Tonight, caught on tape, tot mom Casey Anthony on the hot seat, her entire police interrogation. We hear in her own words what the tot mom tells investigators about the suspicious disappearance of her little girl, lie after lie. But one thing remains consistent. Tot mom Casey Anthony`s story just doesn`t add up.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Basically, if you`re trying to fabricate a story to kind of make something look a little bit better, now is your time to tell me. Are you telling me that this is the story you want to stick with?
CASEY ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S MOTHER: It`s the truth. It`s the story I`m going to stick with, yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. In your own words -- let`s go back. Your daughter`s name is Caylee, C-A-Y-L-E-E...
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... Marie Anthony? She was born August 9?
CASEY ANTHONY: 2005.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And according to your statement back on August 9 -- I`m sorry -- back on June 9, 2008, you took Casey (SIC) to a baby-sitter`s house.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And who was this baby-sitter?
CASEY ANTHONY: Her name is Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How long have you known Zenaida?
CASEY ANTHONY: Almost four years. It`ll be four years Christmas this year.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And where did you meet her? Who did you meet her through?
CASEY ANTHONY: A mutual friend. His name is Jeffrey Michael Hopkins. I met him at Nickelodeon at Universal. I met her through him. She was his son`s nanny at the time.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does Jeffrey still work at Universal?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, he does not.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How long has it been since he left?
CASEY ANTHONY: About 9, 10 months, give or take.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he move back to Jacksonville?
CASEY ANTHONY: He moved up to North Carolina for a short time and moved down to Jacksonville within the last three months.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When was the last time you spoke with him?
CASEY ANTHONY: About a week-and-a-half ago.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Do you know a telephone number for him?
CASEY ANTHONY: I can find a number for him. I don`t know the number offhand. No, I do not.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You mentioned something before we went on tape about your cell phones.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. I have two phones. I had just received a new phone through work, through Universal. The phone won`t keep charged, so I use my old phone that I actually had gotten again through Universal for work.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Did you lose the phone?
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And in that phone, you`re saying, was a SIM card and the SIM card had the contact information?
CASEY ANTHONY: Actually, the SIM card is in my Nokia phone, but I know there`s numbers saved to the cell phone itself. So if we get the actual phone, I know I have one other number for Zenaida.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But they`re not in your SIM card?
CASEY ANTHONY: They`re not saved on the SIM card, they`re saved on the phone. I`ve been trying to figure out on that new phone how to save numbers from the phone to the SIM card and switch them back and forth so that I have everything all in one piece.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. So the phone where you have the number saved was lost.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. I filed an incident report.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, how did you end up keeping the SIM card?
CASEY ANTHONY: I had taken it out. I know I left the phone on my desk at work after I`d switched the SIM card back to my old phone because this was the phone that actually would keep charge. I want to be able to have a working phone instead of having a phone that would only stay charged for about a half hour and then it would die and I can`t make any more calls. It`s for me not practical.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So after you -- after you switched the SIM cards on the phone, what?
CASEY ANTHONY: I left it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
CASEY ANTHONY: I know I left it on my desk. And I hadn`t been at work for at least three or four days.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you said you made a report to Universal or...
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, with security.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When was that?
CASEY ANTHONY: Nine days ago.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nine days ago?
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you say you`ve known Zenaida for about four years?
CASEY ANTHONY: Almost four years, yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you knew her before you had your child?
CASEY ANTHONY: Well, I met her just before. I was actually pregnant at the time, so...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And when did she start watching over your child?
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s been within the last year-and-a-half, two years that she started watching Caylee.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How would you normally do the exchange with your child and Zenaida? Would you drop the child off? Would she meet you somewhere?
CASEY ANTHONY: I would usually drop her off. For a few months, we would go over to Jeff`s house. He lived over in Avalon Park. That was a couple of years ago, almost a couple years ago.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you would go to Jeff`s house why?
CASEY ANTHONY: To drop off Caylee. That`s where Zenaida would go to watch both of the kids.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How long would you say you dropped the child off there, from the beginning of -- end of `06, beginning of `07 to?
CASEY ANTHONY: Maybe about six, seven months and maybe in the middle of 2007.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So she lived in the Sawgrass in the middle of `07?
CASEY ANTHONY: She`s been at that apartment in Sawgrass for about the last three or four months. She`s lived with her mom for a little bit.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Had you dropped the child off there before?
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you had to find the place, would you be able to find it?
CASEY ANTHONY: Mostly likely, yes. I think I`d remember the house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go back to your statement. You dropped off your - - you dropped off Caylee on June 9, and walk me through. You dropped her off to go work?
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Get off of work and -- go from there.
CASEY ANTHONY: I got off of work, left Universal, driving back to pick up Caylee, like a normal day. And I show up to the apartment, knock on the door. Nobody answers. So I called Zenaida`s cell phone, and it`s out of service. It says that the phone is no longer in service. Excuse me.
So I sit down on the steps and wait for a little bit to see if maybe it was just a fluke, if something happened. And time passed. I didn`t hear from anyone. No one showed up to the house. So I went over to Jay Blanchard Park and checked a couple other places where maybe possibly they would`ve gone, a couple stores, just regular places that I know Zenaida shops at and she`s taken Caylee before.
After about 7:00 o`clock, when I still hadn`t heard anything, I was getting pretty upset, pretty frantic, and I went to a neutral place. I didn`t really want to come home. I wasn`t sure what I`d say about not knowing where Caylee was, so hoping that I would get a call or, you know, find out that Caylee was coming back so that I could go get her. And I ended up going to my boyfriend, Anthony`s, house, who lived in Sutton Place.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you talk to Anthony about what happened with Caylee?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, I did not.
I talked to Jeff, Jeffrey Hopkins. I also attempted to contact Zenaida`s mother and never received a call back from her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know Zenaida`s mother`s name?
CASEY ANTHONY: Wow. I think it`s Gloria.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know a telephone for Zenaida`s mom?
CASEY ANTHONY: I do not, no.
I`ve tried to find out just information from people, going out to different places, like Fusian, Ultra Lounge, and a couple bars that I know Zenaida had gone to downtown before to see if -- just kind of random talk, if anybody had heard about my nanny or talked to her lately.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you tell anyone specifically that Zenaida took your child?
CASEY ANTHONY: No. The only two people that I specifically told were Jeff and Juliette (ph).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, what`s the reason you didn`t call the police before? Since right now, we`re here because your grandparents -- or your parents asked you about the child and they were concerned, didn`t get an answer as to where the child was, they called the sheriff`s office. Why didn`t you call prior to today?
CASEY ANTHONY: I think part of me was naive enough to think that I could handle this myself, which obviously, I couldn`t. And I was scared that something would happen to her if I did notify the authorities or got the media involved or my parents, which I know would have done the same thing -- just the fear of the unknown, fear of the potential of Caylee getting hurt, of not seeing my daughter again.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I asked you this at the onset and I asked you before we went on tape, and I`ll ask you again just to make sure we`re clear. Is there anything about this story that you`re telling me that is untrue?
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Or is there anything that you want to change or divert from what you`ve already told me?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you cause any injury to your child, Caylee?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you hurt Caylee or leave her somewhere and you`re...
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... worried that if we find that out, that people are going to look at you the wrong way?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there any underlying cause to why Zenaida would have taken your child?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, nothing that...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She ever make any statements to you about...
CASEY ANTHONY: Only how much she loves Caylee and how great of a kid she is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When she was watching your baby, she -- for the year-and-a-half?
CASEY ANTHONY: Almost two years.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Almost two years. Was she always in that same building?
CASEY ANTHONY: She`d been at a house over in Andover Lakes for a while. That was one of the main things...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was it her house, or was it one she was sharing?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, it was a friend`s house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So it probably wasn`t in her name?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, it was not.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you remember how to get to that house, so we can get the address, maybe do a title search or -- but she was probably just renting a room or...
CASEY ANTHONY: She had a couple other roommates. I know the house wasn`t in any of their names. I think they were just renting through...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you know any of those roommates?
CASEY ANTHONY: I have names. I have two names for them. But nothing...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you given then to Yuri?
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. What were those names?
CASEY ANTHONY: Raquel Ferrell (ph) and Jennifer Rosa (ph).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. You had any contact with them?
CASEY ANTHONY: No. I never really talked to them much anyway. I think I probably saw them maybe a handful of times.
Even with the boyfriend that Zenaida had last year...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.
CASEY ANTHONY: ... I saw him maybe twice.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.
CASEY ANTHONY: They only dated a couple months. It was never anything serious. She never had him around Caylee or the other children she baby-sat, so it was never an uncomfortable situation. But this is so heart-wrenching because there was never a sign, never a single sign that this was going to happen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there anything I haven`t asked you about Caylee or Zenaida or just this incident in particular that you feel is important that you wanted to tell me about before I turn this off?
CASEY ANTHONY: I mean, Caylee has very distinctive features, even if her hair was cut or changed. She has dark hazel eyes. They`re brown and green. She has a birthmark on her left shoulder.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anything else?
CASEY ANTHONY: I just want my daughter back.
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GRACE: When we come back, tot mom Casey Anthony`s web of lies.
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GRACE: Universal Studios, the place where tot mom Casey Anthony claims she`s at work the day little Caylee is kidnapped. It`s also the place where police confront the tot mom as they try to untangle her massive web of lies. But Anthony still insists the last time she saw her little girl was at Sawgrass Apartments just weeks before.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re about halfway down that hill, three quarters down that hill, and it`s a pretty big snowball, which means that there`s a lot of stuff going on right now.
And I can tell you just for a certainty that everything you`ve told me so far has been a lie. I can tell you that with certainty. And let me explain why. Since I left you this morning, I`ve gone to every address that you`ve told me. I`ve looked up every name. I`ve talked to every person that you -- you wanted me to talk, or tried to.
I`ve reached out. I`ve talked to your ex-boyfriend. I`ve talked to Amy. I`ve talked to Tony. I came over here. I`ve already talked to all the employees.
And I found out all these names you`re giving me are people that either never worked here or been fired here for a long time ago, OK? So where we are right now is in a position that doesn`t look very good for you.
And this is going to be your -- your escape hatch, so to speak. This is going to be the point where you stop all lies and you stop all the fibs and you tell us exactly what`s going on. I`m just being -- you know, being straight with you.
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because obviously, I know and you know that everything you`ve told me is a lie, correct?
CASEY ANTHONY: Not everything that I told you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Pretty much everything that you`ve told me, including where Caylee is right now.
CASEY ANTHONY: That I still -- I don`t know where she is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure, you do. And here`s...
CASEY ANTHONY: I absolutely do not...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Listen to me. Let...
CASEY ANTHONY: ... know where she is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This stuff about Zanny the caretaker or the nanny taking care of...
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s the truth.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s not the truth because I went to the apartment complex. There`s no person that ever lived there by that name. The apartment`s been vacant since March, that same apartment. Now, the apartment that you pointed out to me, the two-story apartment, that`s an old folks home. It`s right across the street from your ex-boyfriend`s house, who you never mentioned. And you said you wrote the address down because it was across the street. That`s a lie because I`ve already talked to him and we`ve already been by the house and we`ve already, you know, look at everything we need to look at over there.
CASEY ANTHONY: The horrible thing that happened is -- this is the honest-to-God`s truth of everything that I`ve said. I do not know where she is. The last person that I saw her with is Zenaida. She`s the last person that I`ve seen my daughter with.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know that`s not the truth. That can`t be the truth because if that were the truth, everything you would`ve told us would`ve been on the money. The addresses you would`ve taken us would`ve been on the money. Everything else would`ve matched. If you had told us the truth, we wouldn`t be here at Universal Studios, at a place that you`ve been fired since 2006, with you trying to explain to us, you know, you got an office and all that stuff.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to go through this, and I want you to stop me at the part that isn`t the truth, OK? You take your daughter and you drop her off on June the 9th, OK...
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... at somebody -- at a baby-sitter`s house, OK? Now, this is a baby-sitter that lives at this apartment, OK, that`s been vacant...
CASEY ANTHONY: I dropped her off at that apartment.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: At those stairs.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, you just walked her -- you dropped her off and...
CASEY ANTHONY: I walked her to the stairs. That`s where I`ve dropped her off a bunch of other times besides just that day.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And when you dropped her off, who took her at that point?
CASEY ANTHONY: Zanny did. She took her at that point.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you left her in Zanny`s care...
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... on June the 9th, OK? So far, that`s right?
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You first call the police about this when your mother and father, OK -- actually, you don`t call the police to report your daughter missing. What happens is your parents find your car that`s been towed from Amscot, and your parents ask you where your daughter is. And you tell your daughter -- or your parents that you haven`t seen your daughter for over a month. Right? That`s true, OK? So I haven`t told you anything -- so, so far, I haven`t said anything that`s not true, OK?
CASEY ANTHONY: That`s all true.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s true, OK? Sounds -- that`s true. Sounds reasonable to you, correct?
When the police do get involved, OK, when your parents involve the police in an attempt to locate your child because they`re worried, the first thing you do, OK, is you lie to the detective whose job it is to try to find your daughter and get her back into safe hands, OK? You give him all kinds of bad addresses to look at, right? OK? So far, I`m on track, correct?
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Then you bring us out to Universal, where you say you work in an office, to try to help find stuff that will help us find your daughter. I`m on track so far, OK?
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And we get her, we walk up a way down the hall to where you tell us. You don`t really work her. You don`t have an office here, OK?
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So far, everything I`ve said is true, correct?
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re here to come search your office for anything that will help us, OK? We`re here because you brought us here, right?
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, I want you to tell me how that`s helping us find your daughter.
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s not.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But everything we`re doing is to find your daughter. That`s the most important thing in the world to you right now, right?
CASEY ANTHONY: Caylee`s been up here. Maybe we can talk to security to see if she`s come through the front. I know she`s come to the park. She`s gone to Disney. She`s been at Sea World.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa, whoa!
CASEY ANTHONY: She`s been to other places...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let`s go back to -- let`s -- let`s -- we`re here...
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s a backwards way of looking...
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why do you think it`s backwards? It`s backwards because you haven`t been truthful to us, OK?
CASEY ANTHONY: Because I`ve been reaching.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`ve been reaching, huh?
CASEY ANTHONY: I`ve been reaching to try to figure out a place where she is actually is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So once again, OK, because you never did answer any question -- you`re reaching and helping find her by bringing us here to this office that you don`t have. It`s helping us find her how?
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because what you`re doing right now is you`re doing everything you can to find your daughter. You have three experienced detectives right now whose sole focus is here to help you find your daughter, OK? And we`re here because you brought us here, correct?
CASEY ANTHONY: Absolutely.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You directed us here because we`re going to office to find evidence that`ll help us find her, OK? Now that we`re here, I want you to tell me how that`s helping. What is it we`re doing here, what`s helping us right now, OK? We`re coming to an office that doesn`t exist.
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s not helping.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So why`d you do it?
CASEY ANTHONY: Honestly, I wanted to come up and try to talk to security, maybe pass around a picture of Caylee. I legitimately have not seen my daughter in five weeks. I didn`t let anything happen to her except I trusted her with somebody, somebody that had been taking care of her, that had been taking good care of her, someone that she was comfortable with, that I was comfortable with.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What about -- what about Jeff? You said Jeff worked her about -- until about two months ago?
CASEY ANTHONY: No, he hasn`t worked here for quite a while.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ten months? How long?
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s been at least 10 months.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our purpose of coming here was to do what, go where?
CASEY ANTHONY: I guess there wasn`t a purpose. There wasn`t a purpose whatsoever to come up here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So we`re wasting time, valuable time that ought to be spent looking for your daughter.
CASEY ANTHONY: I`m trying to think of places where I know she`s been.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`re not answering my question. Do you want us to help...
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Will you help us find your daughter?
CASEY ANTHONY: I do want you to help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, then you need to. And a good starting point would be to answer the questions, OK?
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I say to you, We`re here because, and then you just ignore that, like as if I never asked it, and go off in some other direction, is that answering the question?
CASEY ANTHONY: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. All right. Let`s go through this again. We`re here because? We got here how, to do what?
CASEY ANTHONY: Because I lied, because I brought you up here. And honestly, I was reaching for another avenue...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stop right there. I want you to tell me how lying to us is going to help us find your daughter.
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s not going to.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Huh?
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s not going to.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the main thing you want to do is find your daughter and you don`t think lying to us is going to help us find her, why would you do that?
CASEY ANTHONY: Because I`m scared and I know I`m running out of options. It`s been a month.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Obviously, you`re doing things to help us find your daughter, right? And I want you to tell me how lying to us is getting to that end. How is lying to us helping find your daughter faster?
CASEY ANTHONY: It isn`t.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Then why would you do that?
CASEY ANTHONY: But saying I don`t know and telling you that I just dropped her off and that was the last time that I`ve seen her -- even starting with that, everybody else is, like, Well, and what happened after that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want you to focus on what we`re doing here, OK, all right, because I want to make sure we get this right. After -- after having -- after having not seen your daughter for five -- or heard from or not knowing where your daughter was at for five weeks, she calls you on the phone. You have a conversation with her where she talks about the books and this other stuff. But then you ask her to speak to an adult, and then she hangs up or the phone hangs up, OK, correct?
CASEY ANTHONY: She can`t...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. Hold on. Let me finish.
CASEY ANTHONY: Go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have this conversation with her after not seeing her or hearing from her for five weeks. The phone call`s terminated. You don`t get a chance to talk to an adult, OK? The very next thing you do after that is what? Call the police because now something really strange has happened, so you must have called the police right after that. Did you call the city police or do you remember who you called? Which police agency did you call yesterday?
CASEY ANTHONY: I didn`t call anybody at noon after I got that phone call.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You didn`t...
CASEY ANTHONY: I sat down...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa, whoa. You didn`t think that was odd? This conversation, you didn`t think this...
CASEY ANTHONY: I thought it was extremely odd.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But not odd enough to call the police and try to get help.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
GRACE: Next: mystery phone call, the last time mom Casey says she hears from little Caylee.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: Tot mom Casey Anthony still insists her little girl kidnapped by the so-called nanny. With Caylee missing an entire month, mom Casey claims her little girl makes contact during a random phone call, a call that allegedly comes through just one day before grandmother Cindy reports Caylee missing. But if Casey Anthony really just heard from her little girl for the first time in a month, why didn`t she call police immediately and track down the kidnapper?
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You remember the phone call you were telling us about?
CASEY ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is that true?
CASEY ANTHONY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you actually talk with -- what day was that you talked to her?
CASEY ANTHONY: Yesterday.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know about what time of day?
CASEY ANTHONY: Around noon. It was from a private number.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. What did she tell you? What did your daughter say to you?
CASEY ANTHONY: She said, Hi, Mommy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And that`s it?
CASEY ANTHONY: And she started telling me a story, talking to me about her shoes and books.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s important that you tell me -- I mean, maybe there`s something in what she said that can help us figure out where she is. What did she say?
CASEY ANTHONY: I tried to ask her where she was, and she just kept talking about the book that she`d been reading.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.
CASEY ANTHONY: We have videos of her reading the story, and she`s telling me the story...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So she seemed happy and...
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She seemed happy...
CASEY ANTHONY: She seemed fine.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She seemed fine, seemed happy?
CASEY ANTHONY: Perfectly fine. There was nothing in the background...
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... telling you about a book (INAUDIBLE) no sign of any type of stress at all?
CASEY ANTHONY: Not at all.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Great. That`s wonderful. Now let me ask you a question. Your daughter hasn`t seen you in over a month, and she`s not -- she`s...
CASEY ANTHONY: She was excited. She was excited to talk to me. But at the same time, it`s crazy that she didn`t get upset when she talked to me, which had it been my mom, I know it would have been...
ALLEN: Is that another thing...
CASEY ANTHONY: ... totally different.
ALLEN: Is that another thing that makes sense to you?
CASEY ANTHONY: She never gets upset when she talks to me, whether I haven`t seen her for an entire day, or if I had to work late at night and I didn`t see him almost an entire day until the next morning.
(CROSSTALK)
CASEY ANTHONY: She was fine.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... talked about the book. I mean, is all that stuff you`re saying true, right?
CASEY ANTHONY: She`s always been like that, though.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK...
CASEY ANTHONY: I don`t understand how.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. But I`m getting (INAUDIBLE) let`s get back to -- you say this has never happened before. She`s never not seen you for five weeks.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, if this is the first time she`s ever been gone or away from you for more than a day -- I`m a parent, too. I would have been -- I would have been just beside myself.
CASEY ANTHONY: I have been.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would have called the police immediately, and that`s the part that I just don`t understand.
CASEY ANTHONY: I didn`t know...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`ve got so many resources...
CASEY ANTHONY: ... what to do.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... out there that we could help on day one.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You didn`t know what to do?
CASEY ANTHONY: I didn`t know what to do.
I didn`t know what to do. At that point, I`m thinking, OK, they haven`t been gone that long. Maybe I can find them. Maybe I can track them down. That first...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They haven`t been gone that long.
CASEY ANTHONY: That first...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is yesterday, right?
CASEY ANTHONY: That very first day that all of this happened, when I went to pick up Caylee and she wasn`t there, initially, my thought is that they went out to do something for a little bit. Maybe I just missed a phone call.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.
CASEY ANTHONY: Maybe I didn`t get the call or the text message. Maybe something fell through the crack. It`s happened before.
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GRACE: When we come back, showdown between investigators and tot mom Casey Anthony all on tape.
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: After taking cops on a wild goose chase around Orlando and telling lie after lie, police run out of patience with mom Casey. Investigators confront the tot mom, telling her they are on to her and know something terrible happened to Caylee.
But even after admitting some of her behavior and actions don`t make sense, mom Casey still sticks to her story.
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DEP. APPLING WELLS, ORANGE COUNTY INVESTIGATOR: I can tell you for a certainty that right now, looking at you, I know that everything that you`ve told me is a lie, including the fact that, you know, your child was last seen about a month ago, and that you don`t know where she is.
See, I - I`m very confident, just by having talked to you the short period of time that you know where she is.
CASEY ANTHONY, MOTHER OF CAYLEE ANTHONY: I don`t.
SGT. JOHN ALLEN, ORANGE COUNTY INVESTIGATOR: You do. And here`s the thing. We need to get past that because we can sit here and go back and forth all day long about, I don`t, I do, I don`t, I do. It`s pretty obvious that with everything that you`ve told us, nothing has been true. You know where she is.
Now, my question to you is, is this: we need to find Caylee. I understand that right now Caylee may not be in very good shape. You understand what I`m saying? She may not be the way we or the way your family last remembers her.
We need to find out from you where Caylee is. This -- this right now is just -- this has gone so far down hill and this has become such a mess. We need to end it. It`s very simple. We just need to end it.
ANTHONY: I agree with you. I have no clue where she is.
ALLEN: Sure you do.
ANTHONY: If I knew in any sense where she was this wouldn`t have happened at all.
CPL. YURY MELICH, ORANGE COUNTY INVESTIGATOR: Are you a person who, who`s scared about the consequences of what happened? Or are you scared about something that happened? Or are you, are you really this cold callous person who doesn`t care about what happened?
It`s one of these two options.
ANTHONY: I`m scared that I don`t know where my daughter is.
ALLEN: Since you`ve talked to him this morning, in an attempt to try and help find your daughter, you`ve give him bad addresses, OK? You drove me all the way out here. We walked from the gate back here all the way to your office, right? OK? To the -- to an office that you don`t have.
We got all the way to the building into the hallway out here before you finally says, well, I really don`t have an office here. We were walking to your office, right? OK. So I mean, does any of this make sense to you?
ANTHONY: I understand how all that sounds.
ALLEN: Now I want you to look at this from an outsider`s perspective. Somebody, somewhere down the road, and we have to decide, you know, how this all plays out. What would you do? How would you see that person? How would you see that person differently?
You might se somebody, maybe a young mother who made a mistake and you know, maybe, initially, was afraid to tell the truth but at some point came forward and said a horrible thing happened. I`m sorry. I feel terrible about it. I have to tell you.
MELICH: And I can tell you now that everything you`ve told me is a lie, everything that you`ve told me this morning, from -- Zani, from the addresses, from Universal, from all these people that you`ve talked to, including people that you never told me their names, and I found them and talked to them.
You know, everything that you`ve told me this morning is a lie. Every single thing. That there`s one of two options right now. You need to tell me the truth and we can work with that. Or if you continue down this path and continue lying, I can tell you that when this snowball gets to the bottom of the hill, the only person White House`s going to get hurt is you.
ALLEN: That`s not true. A lot of people around you get hurt.
MELICH: Your parents...
ANTHONY: A lot of people are hurting right now and...
ALLEN: And you know what? One person could put a stop to that.
ANTHONY: I`ve been trying.
ALLEN: That makes sense to you? It makes sense to you that I`m trying to help the police find my daughter by giving them a bunch of bad addresses that makes sense to you?
ANTHONY: That`s what I said. Yes.
ALLEN: No, no. I`m asking you, that makes sense to you? My attempt...
ANTHONY: That part of it? No. Not at all.
ALLEN: My attempt to help him find my child, OK? What I`ve done to try to help him find my child is I`ve given him a whole bunch of addresses to go to that are bad addresses. That`s what I did to help him try to find my child. That makes sense to you?
ANTHONY: I took him to the last place that I`ve seen my daughter. Besides that I took them to other places that I`ve seen...
ALLEN: OK, when you -- when you brought us here, when you brought us here to go look in your office, that was supposed to help us how? Because everything we`re doing here is about finding your daughter, OK? So I want you, OK, to explain to me how coming here to go to an office that you don`t have, I want you to tell me how that`s helping us find your daughter.
MELICH: Everything you`ve told us is a lie. You`re looking me in the eyes, you`re looking at -- everything you`ve told us is a lie, every single thing.
ANTHONY: No, it isn`t.
MELICH: And you can`t, you can`t -- yes. And you can`t keep sitting here and telling us the same thing and getting constantly over and over and over again we`re disproving everything you`re telling us. You`re telling us that you`ve lied to us. You`re telling us that you`re giving us misinformation. Everything you`re telling us. OK? This needs to end.
ANTHONY: The truthful thing...
MELICH: This needs to end.
ANTHONY: ... is that I have not seen my daughter. The last time that I saw her was on the 9th of June.
MELICH: And what happened to Caylee?
ANTHONY: I don`t know.
MELICH: Sure you do. You need...
ANTHONY: I don`t know.
MELICH: Listen, something happened to Caylee. We`re not going to discuss where the last time you saw her. I`m guessing something bad happened to her sometime ago and you haven`t seen her. So that part is true if you say you haven`t seen her because she`s somewhere else right now.
ANTHONY: She`s with someone else.
MELICH: We got to throw these lies out, OK? All these lies are out. We know that everything you`ve told us is a lie. Tell us what happened to Caylee. Tell us what happened to Caylee.
ANTHONY: I dropped off Caylee and that`s the last time that I`ve her. I dropped her off...
MELICH: Where did you drop her off?
ANTHONY: I dropped her off at that apartment.
MELICH: No, you didn`t.
ANTHONY: That`s exactly where I dropped her off.
MELICH: No, you didn`t. And who`d you drop her off to?
ANTHONY: With Zenaida.
MELICH: No, you didn`t.
ANTHONY: She`s the last...
MELICH: Because none of that...
ANTHONY: ... person.
MELICH: No. That`s not true.
ALLEN: Zenaida give you any money that day?
ANTHONY: No. I would not sell my daughter. If I wanted to really just get rid of her, I would have left her with my parents and I would`ve left. I would`ve moved out. I would`ve given my mom custody.
WELLS: What about the baby`s daddy`s parents? Would you have left her with them, too?
ANTHONY: I haven`t talked to them since we were probably six or seven years old, since we were little kids. That was probably the last time I saw or talked to them.
WELLS: You don`t have a phone number for them?
ANTHONY: No, I do not. I would not have let anything happen to my daughter, except I made the mistake of trusting another person with her. That`s it.
MELICH: No, no, no.
ALLEN: Whoa.
MELICH: You -- no, no, stop. You...
ANTHONY: That...
MELICH: You made -- stop. You`ve made a lot more mistakes.
ANTHONY: Yes.
MELICH: We need to stop this lie. Your mother has called me countless times today, OK? And that`s why my phone keeps going off. Countless times because your mother knows, your father knows. Everyone around you knows that you have life completely and absolutely from the get-go. Everyone knows.
Why you`re coming out with it and why you`re telling us the truth, no one has an answer to. The only person that has an answer to that is you. And this is what we`re trying to implore upon you. You need to tell us the truth about what happened to Caylee. It`s not that she`s with someone and you didn`t call...
ANTHONY: It`s the truth.
MELICH: That`s not the truth.
ANTHONY: It is the truth.
MELICH: That`s not the truth. You need to tell...
ANTHONY: Absolutely the truth.
MELICH: No, it`s not the truth. See, we can`t get past that unless you go ahead and tell us the truth.
ANTHONY: There`s nothing to get past because that is the truth.
ALLEN: Let`s get past how we got to Universal Studios. Let`s get passed why you talked to you daughter yesterday on the phone, having no idea where she`s at, and haven`t seen, having not seen her for five weeks, and you didn`t call anybody.
Did you just think that one day she`s just going to show up at your house?
ANTHONY: No. I sat around yesterday trying to figure out what to do. I`m glad that I ended up seeing my mom. That all of that stuff happened. Happened for a reason because...
ALLEN: You`re glad you saw your mom.
Let me ask you this. You could`ve saw your mom five weeks ago, said Mom, I don`t know where -- you could have called your mom five weeks ago.
ANTHONY: I was scared.
ALLEN: What does that mean?
ANTHONY: I saw my mom`s reaction right off the bat and it would`ve been the same from the get-go.
WELLS: Is your daughter in a better place?
ANTHONY: No, she`s not.
WELLS: Are you worried about her?
ANTHONY: I`m absolutely petrified. If she was with her family right now, she`d be in the best place. She`s not. My one goal is regardless of how it happened -- like I said, I don`t care if I will lie, I will steal, or do whatever just to find my daughter.
WELLS: Well...
ANTHONY: I put that in my statement and I mean that with all of my heart.
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GRACE: When we come back, detectives make a last ditch effort to get mom Casey to come clean about what happened to 2-year-old Caylee Anthony.
But first, a special happy birthday to Georgia, friend of the show, Ruby Huckabee, oldest of eight children, daughter of a share cropper. As a little girl, she insisted on baptizing a rooster. Supported her family, raising chickens to sell eggs. And still, to this day, loves to make chocolate pie. 103 years old tonight.
Happy birthday, Miss Ruby.
And a special happy birthday to the single-best baby nurse on the planet, Lani.
Happy birthday, beautiful Lani.
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GRACE: Still getting nowhere, cops make another attempt with tot mom Casey Anthony to get to the bottom of what really happened. Of course, tot mom Anthony brings the investigation right back to the so-called nanny she claims kidnapped her little girl, nanny Zenaida Gonzalez.
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ANTHONY: I started bringing Caylee over to Zenaida`s apartment.
MELICH: How long were you using or were you going to Zenaida`s apartment? How -- when did you start taking Caylee?
ANTHONY: I guess maybe the end of 2006, beginning of 2007.
WELLS: You last saw her June the 9th?
ANTHONY: Ninth. A Monday.
WELLS: Do you remember what you all did on June the 8th?
ANTHONY: It`s a Sunday.
WELLS: I can`t think of what I did. But, anything significant?
ANTHONY: I think I might have been at Tony`s. I think my mom took Caylee up to see her parents in Mount Dora. She either took her up there Saturday or that Sunday.
WELLS: What`s Tony`s?
ANTHONY: It`s my boyfriend`s apartment.
WELLS: OK. So it was like a day visit?
ANTHONY: For my parents or for my mom, yes. And my mom goes up there even just by herself or with my dad or I go up there with her.
WELLS: Your baby went up there with your mom to see her parents?
ANTHONY: See her great grandparents.
WELLS: Yes.
MELICH: So you`ve stayed at your ex-boyfriend`s house the 9th of this month when you`re staying at your other boyfriend`s house, Tony, the rest of the month?
ANTHONY: He`d been out of town. So I was staying over at another friend`s place while he was gone. I wasn`t staying at his apartment. I was staying with Amy and Ricardo and JP. JP and Ricardo own the house.
MELICH: So why didn`t, why didn`t you tell us you were staying there? We drove right by the house this morning, didn`t we, when we went to -- OK? And you`re at this old folk`s home which is another lie, right? Because Amy never lived there. Am I correct?
ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
MELICH: OK. Why were you pointing at this old folk`s home and saying Zani lived there at one point when she didn`t?
ANTHONY: Because she had gone there before, I had seen her there.
MELICH: She went to the old folk`s home?
ANTHONY: Yes.
MELICH: But you never dropped your kid off to her at an old folk`s home. You never went into the old folk`s home, you went to an apartment with her.
WELLS: You`re our biggest help. You`re going to be our biggest help in solving this.
ANTHONY: I have nothing to go off of. That`s the problem. I have perspective ideas of maybe where she could go.
WELLS: Tell me.
ANTHONY: At the same time -- she could`ve gone back up to New York. She could`ve gone back to Jacksonville where we have a friend, could`ve gone down to Miami where her mom and her sister live now. She could`ve gone anywhere.
WELLS: Does she have any children?
ANTHONY: No.
WELLS: And we`re talking about the babysitter, right? She didn`t have any children?
ANTHONY: No.
WELLS: Could she have children? Is this something that she could`ve done and...
ANTHONY: I`m pretty sure that she could. That was never anything that came up.
WELLS: Where did Zenaida? Does she have another job besides watching children?
ANTHONY: She has this seasonal ID for Universal. However, the only job that I know that she`s had for the last few years, she`s been a nanny.
MELICH: So seasonal employee at Universal?
ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
MELICH: When was the last time she worked at Universal, do you know?
ANTHONY: I have no idea.
MELICH: Zani has never worked here. How do you explain that?
ANTHONY: She has an ID. She has an ID with her name on it. I`ve seen it.
MELICH: Just like you -- just like you have an ID?
ANTHONY: I do have an ID. Somewhere at my house. Both of my parents have seen it. Both of my parents know that I worked here.
MELICH: Just like you have office?
ANTHONY: I used to have an office.
MELICH: Now. Just you have an office?
ANTHONY: No. I don`t have an office now.
WELLS: Do you know where she was from? With a name like Zenaida whatever.
ANTHONY: Zenaida.
WELLS: Zenaida.
ANTHONY: She`s mixed. She`s Puerto Rican and her father`s black. She`s from New York from what I`ve been told. That`s where she was born.
WELLS: Right.
ANTHONY: She moved to Miami. She went to U of F.
MELICH: You said Zenaida had family up in New England, up in New York or something?
ANTHONY: Yes. She has family down south. Her mother, her sister, her brother`s in New York. She`s originally from New York. As far as I know she pretty much grew up there, moved down here, went to University of Florida?
MELICH: Would you be willing to drive with me to show me where her mom lives and the apartment that you used to drop her off at?
ANTHONY: Yes.
WELLS: Did she ever make any funny, oh like I love this child, you know, and I wish you were mine or anything like that? Or...
ANTHONY: Never that I have witnessed or anybody else had ever told me. She used to just say how much she loved Caylee and that she was such a good kid. And you know, she was very, very proud of how she was being raised.
WELLS: Right.
ANTHONY: It was always, good praise, but more of things that I heard from other friends. Nothing that sounded out of the ordinary that was ever strange or weird.
WELLS: Right.
ANTHONY: But then this just happened And she was nonchalant with me in the morning of -- everything was perfectly fine.
WELLS: And when you contacted -- when you call, like you would drop the baby off in the morning, or for the day or was it, because you got to go to work, and she was watching. Would you call during the day? Call her up during the day say...
ANTHONY: I would always call and check on Caylee or send a text message, or if I was online, just to make sure that everything was OK, she would occasionally call me just to...
WELLS: Can you get online here at the work? Can you send text messages from work?
ANTHONY: I usually just use my phone.
WELLS: The phone might have some valuable clues in there to could help us try to track down, maybe that...
ANTHONY: The only bad thing is it only saves 20 calls at a time. And text messages, it only saves the messages that I have received. It doesn`t show my anything that I sent. That`s why I pull up a list of stuff for them.
WELLS: But the phone company, your service will have your telephone itemized or...
ANTHONY: Yes. I have everything. But...
WELLS: Incoming and outgoing, right?
ANTHONY: Incoming and outgoing. The thing is...
WELLS: Do you have those itemized bills for...
ANTHONY: Uh-huh. I printed off the ones for July.
MELICH: Do you have any of these numbers programmed into your SIM card that you kept into your other phone?
ANTHONY: No, I do not.
MELICH: How long did you have this old phone?
ANTHONY: I`ve had the Nokia for almost a full year.
MELICH: OK. So after a full year of dealing with Zenaida and having her babysit, you don`t remember...
ANTHONY: Switching the numbers back and forth. Zenaida`s number has changed a couple different times. She switched services between having Sprint and having AT&T or Cingular.
MELICH: What about Jeffrey? You`ve known him for at least four years.
ANTHONY: His numbers changed a couple different times from when he moved from Orlando up to North Carolina and back down to Jacksonville. I know I do have a current number for him.
MELICH: How would you get that number?
ANTHONY: If we can find that other phone or I might have it online, I may be able to access it off the Internet.
She`s had at least three different phone numbers in the last almost four years that I`ve met her. And I know that she was on two different phone plans at...
WELLS: And she`s lived in two different places since...
ANTHONY: Well...
WELLS: ... that you know of?
ANTHONY: She`s lived at a couple of places.
WELLS: Since she`s been watching your child?
ANTHONY: No. She`s lived just in Orlando since I`ve met her. But she had just moved here.
WELLS: At Andover Lakes, she lived -- was she watching your baby there?
ANTHONY: Yes. There`s another apartment that she had been probably right about the time that I met her. It`s Alafaya Club Apartments. She`d only lived there for a few months. I think Caylee probably was only there maybe once or twice.
WELLS: Did she live in the apartment that you dropped her off at the steps? Was that one of the ones she lived in or was that...
ANTHONY: That was one of the places where we had met up a couple of different times. I actually have a couple of friends that live in that complex, so does she.
WELLS: OK.
ANTHONY: A good friend of mine from high school still lives there. He has a one-bedroom apartment.
She used to talk about people all the time but she would never use specific names or really go into any detail about anything. And it never seemed weird. Some people are just very particular about giving out details or specific details...
WELLS: Right.
ANTHONY: ... about other people. So I understood all of that. But looking back at stuff now, the privacy, the way she was a little bit changing phones and, it just -- it didn`t seem right whatsoever.
WELLS: Well, if you were in our shows, what could we do to help you find your child?
ANTHONY: I don`t know.
WELLS: What more can we do? Do you have a computer at home?
ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
WELLS: Did you ever send, what`s the nanny`s name?
ANTHONY: Zenaida.
WELLS: Did you ever send her any emails or did she...
ANTHONY: Her e-mail account bounced back. I`ve tried twice. I tried...
WELLS: Does she...
ANTHONY: ... twice this morning.
WELLS: Does she -- have you...
ANTHONY: She had e-mail.
WELLS: Even when you all were in good times, does she -- would she send e- mails back and forth?
ANTHONY: On occasion. We would talk online. Not usually through e-mail.
WELLS: So we might be able to track her. We might be able to track her.
ANTHONY: If I check my log you can probably find her through instant messaging.
WELLS: What would be great is if we could have our forensic computer guy take your computer with your permission and search it. And he can probably track her by her AOL or whatever account and maybe see -- because she`s got to set up another account somewhere where she goes.
ANTHONY: Oh yes. She`s going to set up another account.
WELLS: Would that be something you`d be willing to do?
ANTHONY: I`m OK with that.
WELLS: Yes?
ANTHONY: Looking back at any place that I know that she had ever gone to or that, again, would seem familiar for me that maybe I`ve gone to, to meet her to drop off Caylee or to pick up Caylee for whatever reason. We`d find mutual places sometimes.
WELLS: Right.
ANTHONY: Or I`d go and pick her up at a grocery story if that`s where they were to try and make it a little bit easier.
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GRACE: Next, more from tot mom Casey Anthony`s police interrogation caught on tape.
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GRACE: Only when she`s forced in a heated confrontation with her own mother does Casey Anthony finally admit little Caylee`s been missing an entire month. Not once does the tot mom reach out to family, friends or police to report the little girl`s kidnapping.
But suddenly, under intense scrutiny by police, hindsight`s 20/20 for tot mom Casey Anthony. She says not reaching out for help immediately is her biggest mistake.
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WELLS: If we found the nanny today, and we found your baby, what`s your biggest, what`s your biggest hurdle for you in your life as far as who`s it -- maybe explaining something to somebody or who -- what`s the next biggest concern?
I know your major concern now is finding your baby.
ANTHONY: Honestly, that`s all I care about at this point.
WELLS: Who`s going to be the next hurdle in your life as far as trying to explain, that no, I`m not a neglectful mother, I`m not, you know, is it going to be your mom?
ANTHONY: Myself. No, it`s going to be saying that and proving that to myself every day.
My mom flat out told me yesterday she would never be able to forgive me and I even told her, I`m not going to be able to forgive myself. Every day I`ve been beating myself up for this, every single day.
WELLS: Right.
ANTHONY: Not knowing where to go, what to do. Running in circles, literally, because it`s all I can do at this point.
WELLS: I would hope this would never happen to you again, but I think if this ever...
ANTHONY: I would never...
WELLS: ... happened again...
ANTHONY: ... let this happen again.
WELLS: The very first phone call should be to the...
ANTHONY: Absolutely.
WELLS: ...police.
ANTHONY: Be to the police.
WELLS: Because we got so many resources.
ANTHONY: I wouldn`t hesitate to talk to my parents this time if something happened.
WELLS: Right.
ANTHONY: I mean I learned the biggest lesson from all of this. I made the greatest mistake that I ever could have made as a parent.
The biggest mistake was not calling you guys right off the bat. I understand all of that. It`s the biggest slap in the fact and I did that to myself. But the worse is I`ve done this to my daughter by allowing her to still be with someone else.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Let`s stop and remember Army Chief Warrant Officer Robert Hammett, 39, Tucson, Arizona, killed Iraq. On a second tour, highly decorated, awarded three Bronze Stars, Army Commendation medal, Meritorious Service medal.
Leaves behind grieving parents Carolyn and Robert, sister Kit, widow Leanna, and five daughters.
Robert Hammett, American hero.
Thanks for being with us, everyone, and inviting us into your homes. I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.
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