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Actress Natasha Richardson Dies; Octomom`s Babies` Homecoming; Jen and John`s Split: Who Dumped Whom?; Beyonce`s Revelation About Having Kids
Aired March 18, 2009 - 23:00 ET
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BROOKE ANDERSON, HOST: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, breaking octomom news. A wild scene outside the octomom`s house as the first two octuplets leave the hospital and come home. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the caught-on-camera chaos and an exclusive look inside the house as the octomom`s older kids meet the babies.
Tonight, Jen and John. Who dumped whom? Brand-new details about Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer`s latest breakup. But whose idea was it? And how is Jen doing now? Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the hot Hollywood couple news breaking right now.
Plus, Natasha Richardson`s tragic skiing accident, the tear-jerking scene as her family rushes to her side in New York.
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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Hi, there. I`m Brooke Anderson coming to you tonight from Hollywood.
And tonight, we have the developing story on the tragic Natasha Richardson skiing accident that is making news right now.
Tonight, there is the very sad news that the 45-year-old mother, actress and wife of Liam Neeson has died. Richardson was left seriously injured after falling during a ski lesson on Monday in Canada. She didn`t show any immediate signs of injury.
Richardson was transferred from a Montreal hospital to a New York City hospital where several members of her family, including her mother, Vanessa Redgrave, sister Joely Richardson and her two sons were seen entering and leaving the hospital. And now, this tragic news.
Joining me tonight in New York, David Caplan, who is a senior editor for "People" magazine. The Richardson tragedy is on the cover of the new issue of "People." Also tonight in New York, Dave Karger who is a senior writer for "Entertainment Weekly" magazine. The Richardson tragedy is also the cover story of the new issue of "Entertainment Weekly."
David, Dave, it really was a sad scene last night as her family went in and out of Lennox Hill hospital looking very grim. I want to take a look at one of the photos.
Here, we have her two sons leaving the hospital. And frankly, it is heartbreaking. David Caplan, judging from the looks on their faces, their behavior, it seems that they knew this was a grave situation. Didn`t they?
DAVID CAPLAN, SENIOR EDITOR, "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE: Oh, absolutely. I think heading into that hospital, they were very aware of what potential for the situation is. Because, you know, even anecdotally, if we look at what happened since the accident, you know, it hasn`t been so well.
First, she was transferred from a hospital near the skiing community to Montreal. Then from Montreal back into New York. Liam Neeson, her husband, you know, immediately left the set in Toronto. So we`re just seeing a lot more signs here that it is not going so well.
ANDERSON: Well, you know, as we try our best to piece together the tragic events of the last 48 hours, one eyewitness in the hospital in Canada, "The Toronto Star`s" Andrew Chung gave his heartbreaking account on CNN`s "LARRY KING LIVE" of seeing a woman he believed to be Richardson being wheeled to the ambulance, Liam Neeson by her side. Listen to this.
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ANDREW CHUNG, "THE TORONTO STAR": Then I saw Liam Neeson, who was already there in the ambulance, crouched down in the back. I mean he was - he just looked devastated. He didn`t seem to notice anyone or anything. His eyes were just focused solely on his wife.
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ANDERSON: Oh, it`s just so tough to hear. Dave Karger, he and Natasha were so close, married for 15 years. I cannot imagine how devastating this must be to Liam.
DAVID KARGER, SENIOR WRITER, "ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY": That`s right. They met in 1993 when they did a Broadway play together. Then, the following year, they were in the film "Nell" together with Jodie Foster. But it was after that time that Natasha really took a couple years off to focus on growing their family. They had their kids in 1995 and `96.
So they really were a very strong family unit. How suddenly this has all transpired must be just awful for the entire family.
ANDERSON: Oh, just horrible. A very close-knit family. And this comes at a time when Natasha was getting ready to perform on Broadway with her mother, Vanessa Redgrave. And she does come from a family that has a long line of truly talented actors. Besides her mother, her late father was Tony Richardson, an Oscar winning director. Her aunt is Lynn Redgrave. Her sister, Joely Richardson, stars in "Nip Tuck." David Caplan, this whole family is really Hollywood royalty, right?
CAPLAN: You know, they absolutely are. What`s interesting about them is that they also really transcend all these different sort of genres of Hollywood. You know, the sister is big in TV. The mom does a lot of movies. Her late father did.
So I think that`s why they are such an endearing Hollywood family to so many people. Because you may not know them from movies, but you`ll know one of them from a TV show or from the theater as well.
ANDERSON: Absolutely highly respected and all of them very, very versatile. Richardson has had a long, successful career as an actress. She won a Tony in 1998 for her lead role in "Cabaret." I want you though now to take a look at one of her more famous movie roles, this in "Parent Trap," the remake of "Parent Trap" when a very young Lindsay Lohan comes back from summer camp. Take a look.
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NATASHA RICHARDSON, ACTRESS: Oh, darling, what is it?
LINDSAY LOHAN, ACTRESS: I`m sorry. It`s just I missed you so much.
RICHARDSON: Oh, I know. It seems like it`s been forever.
LOHAN: You have no idea.
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ANDERSON: Always such a fresh actress, such an energetic actress. Dave Karger, just looking at this clip of Richardson, describe for us just how beloved she really was as an actress.
KARGER: Well, she was so talented. And to look at that clip from "Parent Trap," movies like that and "Maid in Manhattan" were not the kinds of films that she normally gravitated towards.
I mean, she seems more interested in doing films like "Asylum" and "Handmaid`s Tale" and "Patty Hearst." And the Broadway show "Cabaret" was really tough, emotional stuff, too.
ANDERSON: Sure.
KARGER: So those are the kinds of movies that she really does seem to gravitate to. And I think that`s one of the reasons why maybe she hasn`t necessarily become an even bigger household name, because she does take on these tougher, more dramatic roles.
ANDERSON: Really demonstrates though her wide range of talents. David Caplan, Dave Karger, thank you both.
And you can read more on Natasha Richardson. She`s the cover story of "People" magazine and "Entertainment Weekly," both on newsstands on Friday.
Moving now to the wild homecoming for the octobabies. For the very first time since Nadya Suleman gave birth to octuplets, some of the babies are home. But just like everything else surrounding the octomom, the homecoming turned into a three-ring circus. Such a circus that tonight there are brand-new questions about whether the babies are safe.
And wait until you see the exclusive video inside the octomom`s house with the babies. Because SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you that this is all making big news right now.
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(voice over): It is a happy occasion when a new baby comes home for the first time, but there are no calm balloons and flowers for this baby homecoming.
Welcome to the world of the octomom. In this Hollywood.tv footage we see pandemonium as octomom Nadya Suleman brings the first two of her world- famous octuplets home from the hospital.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you it was a real mob scene. Watch as the army of paparazzi surrounds the SUV carrying Nadya and the two babies to the Sulemans` house where an even bigger crowd was waiting.
That noise you hear, flying overhead isn`t the stork, but helicopters, all this for a pair of 7-week-old babies. And if you think the scene outside wasn`t chaotic enough, check out the scene inside Suleman`s house.
In this video from "Radar Online," we see Nadya letting a camera crew into her home to capture the homecoming.
NADYA SULEMAN, OCTUPLET MOTHER: This is Noah and this is Isaiah. They`re pretty content right now.
ANDERSON: Watch the chaos as Nadya takes the babies inside to meet her six older kids.
SULEMAN: What do you think, guys?
SULEMAN: My head is going to burst with all the noise now, when all eight are here.
ANDERSON: With all these kids, who can blame her for having trouble keeping up?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Mommy. Mommy.
SULEMAN: Hi.
ANDERSON: Suleman later told "Radar Online" that the whole scene scared her.
SULEMAN: It is beyond anything I expected.
ANDERSON: Nadya is not the only one surprised by the mob scene.
KIM SERAFIN, SENIOR EDITOR, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": This is just for the first two babies. So we have the second two and the third two. And I have lost count - the fourth two.
ANDERSON: Kim Serafin of "In Touch Weekly" tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the paparazzi madhouse may have surprised Suleman but she is partly responsible for it.
SERAFIN: This is how she is making money. She`s been having photographers follow her everywhere. She`s been posting video blogs. She`s been doing things like going on "Dr. Phil," like doing interviews that obviously exacerbate the media attention that she is getting.
DR. JUDY KURIANSKY, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: There is nothing worse for little children than to have noise and chaos going on when they are changing their environment.
ANDERSON: Clinical psychologist, Dr. Judy Kuriansky tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that not only is she worried about the babies in this media circus, she is worried about the other older kids.
KURIANSKY: They`re worried, "What is left for me," for the food, for mommy, for the attention, everything. So sibling rivalry is going to be 14-fold in this household.
ANDERSON: The nonprofit group, Angels in Waiting, is providing nurses and around-the-clock care for Nadya`s kids. As for the other six babies, officials at this California hospital say they`ll be released in the next few days. And when they are, they`re in for one heck of a homecoming.
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I cannot believe the crazy, out-of-control scene at the octomom`s house.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get out of the car!
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ANDERSON: Two of her babies come home. It is complete chaos. Tonight, an exclusive new look inside the octuplet mom`s house. We`ve got the guy with the explosive video right here.
Plus, should we be even more worried about all of the octomom`s kids now? Is the family in danger? Coming up.
And Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer - who dumped whom? How is Jen doing? The brand-new details. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
(CAPTION READS: "Tootsie" actress Jessica Lange breaks collarbone, bruises ribs after falling while on vacation. Broadway theaters dim lights Wednesday night in memory of Ron Silver.)
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ANDERSON: Hey, welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. Tonight, inside the octomom three-ring circus as her babies came home last night. And there are many who think the three-ring circus we saw was totally inappropriate. But is the octomom to blame?
Joining me tonight in Hollywood is Attorney Gloria Allred who was right there inside the octomom`s house during the mob scene.
Gloria, you were at the center of the Dr. Phil-octomom peace pact that led to the group Angels in Waiting committing to help octomom care for all 14 of her kids. Gloria, there are a lot of people who believe, from what we just saw, Nadya is not off to a good start. What do you say?
GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY: Well, we are most concerned about these little premature infants who are innocent and who do need protection. And I was there to protect our nurses from Angels in Waiting so that they could do their job of protecting the best interests of these little babies. And that`s what they did last night.
They were there. You know, they helped to feed them. They changed them. They helped to swaddle them and put them to bed, to create little boundaries in the crib, two in the same crib, little protective nesting for each baby.
And I can tell you they take their job very seriously. And I think it is really important that they`re there because even Nadya herself has said she`s not capable of caring for 14 children. She needs help, and it is a good thing she has accepted the help of Angels in Waiting.
ANDERSON: Yes. And hopefully, those nurses provided a little bit of peace to those babies as well because it was just such incredible chaos.
And even octomom, Nadya Suleman, is insisting that she did not expect the crush of photographers. In a brand-new interview with "Radar Online" posted today, she said it was so crazy that she had to call the police. Watch.
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SULEMAN: I saw something unsafe. They were following us into the garage, and that scared me. So then I ended up - yes, I called 911. I called 911.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why did you call the police?
SULEMAN: I called them because I felt it was dangerous. Because they were posing danger to the babies. It felt like they were trying to break down the garage door.
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ANDERSON: Oh, Gloria. One of your concerns from the start has been about the safety of octomom`s children, of course, that they are the priority.
ALLRED: Yes.
ANDERSON: Does the fact that she had to call 911 in her own garage, for crying out loud, make you maybe just a little bit concerned here?
ALLRED: I have a very heightened concern as do the nurses about the safety of the babies. And yes, it was clearly a very dangerous situation. Dangerous for the babies. Dangerous for Nadya. Dangerous for all the reporters and other people who came to that scene. And I hope that it will never happen again because this is an unacceptable, dangerous situation.
ANDERSON: Yes. It got very aggressive. And Nadya has said hopefully this kind of action and this kind of behavior will not continue.
And Gloria, I want to ask you this. Late today, reports surfaced that somebody from Nadya Suleman`s house actually called police to have you removed from the home. Now, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT reached out to police who did not return our call in time for our show. But Gloria, what happened? Can you clarify?
ALLRED: Sure. Here is the lowdown. Someone that the police identified as a person named Marcy (ph) in the house called 911. The police came to the house.
In the presence of the police officers and myself, and others, we asked the one person that we knew was named Marcy in the house if she made the call. She denied making the call. At some point, the police left. I remained in the house.
Later when Nadya came back, I asked her if she wanted me to stay in the house. And she said absolutely she wanted me to remain in the house. And so that is the story.
ANDERSON: OK. Well, thank you for clearing that up. And let me ask you this, Angels in Waiting needs donations from the public. It costs $135,000 a month for them to care for all these children. Are you concerned that people will see what happened in this onslaught and say, "I am not donating to that circus?"
ALLRED: Right. Their Web site for donations, AngelsinWaitingUSA.org. Let me say that there is no way that these nurses would condone that kind of scene outside of the house or frankly, chaos within the house because they are very, very protective of these babies.
And they want it to be safe and quiet and healthy. And they`re concerned about the welfare of these babies. And I think that they are so important to be in this home as the voice of these babies and the other children because they`re concerned about all 14 of them
ANDERSON: Yes. And they want to provide a safe, healthy environment, I`m sure. Gloria Allred, thanks for your time. Good to see you as always.
ALLRED: Thank you. You, too.
ANDERSON: And now, we want to hear from you. It is our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Octomom`s Fame Game: Are her kids at risk?" Vote at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. E-mail us showbiztonight@cnn.com.
We are still getting tons of calls into the "Showbiz on Call" phone lines about the octomom. Hey, now that some of the octuplets are coming home, we would offer up some help from the "Showbiz on Call" operators. But look, they`re still just too darned busy.
Here is Joseph calling into "Showbiz on Call" from Arizona.
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JOSEPH, CALLER FROM ARIZONA: I just think that people need to mind their own business as far as the octomom`s personal life and what she is doing in her life.
And, you know, if she makes it to Disneyland because she struck it rich or because she`s got a deal on TV because of her situation, that`s her problem and her business. And more power to her. I think people who are just in a jealous rage need to mind their own business and get a life.
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ANDERSON: Thank you, Joseph. We will have more fired-up calls on the octomom coming up in a bit. Remember, "Showbiz on Call" phone lines, always open - 1-888-SBT-BUZZ; 1-888-728-2899.
OK. Like so many people, I want to know what happened with Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer. What`s the real reason they broke up? Who dumped whom?
Tonight, I`ve got brand-new juicy details coming up. You have got to check out this wild, out-of-control scene at the octomom`s house. Two of her babies come home. Tonight, we are taking you inside the octuplet mom`s house. We`ve got the guy with the explosive video right here. Plus, should we be even more worried about all of the octomom`s kids now? Is the family in danger?
Also this -
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: AIG against the world -
MOOS: It`s the world against CEOs.
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ANDERSON: These CEOs are the brand-new punching bags. They`re getting ripped in songs. You`ve got to see this stuff. Very funny. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson. Here are some more stories making news right now.
Tonight, is Joy Behar really getting married? That`s right, the 66- year-old "View" co-host says she`s thinking about getting married to her boyfriend of 26 years, a guy by the name of Steve Janowitz. Joy says one of the reasons she is considering marriage again is if she or her husband gets ill, she wants one partner to take care of the other person.
Here`s what the ladies of "The View" said this morning about the exciting news.
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FRED ARMISEN, ACTOR (as Joy Behar): So what, who cares?
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ANDERSON: No, no, no. Here`s the real clip.
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JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": If I get married, I will -
SHERRI SHEPHERD, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Which you`re thinking of.
BEHAR: Which I am thinking of doing -
WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Does he even know? Have you talked to Steve about this?
ELISABETH HASSELBECK, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Is she literally thinking of getting married? (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
GOLDBERG: I want you to know Steve, just in case.
SHEPHERD: She`s waiting for that magical -
BEHAR: He`s watching now saying, "What?" But if I do -
BARBARA WALTERS, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER AND CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": When you get home, we won`t be there.
BEHAR: I just spent a lot of money on my daughter`s wedding. And she has a beautiful album. We can just Photoshop, put my pictures in there. No one will know the difference.
(CROSS TALK)
BEHAR: Listen, Valentino can make her dress.
SHEPHERD: That sounds right. But I`m saying instead of having to pay -
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ANDERSON: By the way, Barbara Walters has offered to throw Joy the wedding. But Joy says she doesn`t want anybody at the ceremony. Behar was married previously and she`s got a daughter from that marriage.
And tonight, I can tell you that Ellen DeGeneres is going to be in charge of "Earth, Wind and Fire." No, not the R & B group. She is going to play Mother Nature in a brand-new movie. Listen to Ellen on "Ellen."
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ELLEN DEGENERES, HOST, "THE ELLEN DEGENERES SHOW": I am going to be playing Mother Nature. I am doing a movie.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
Very exciting. It will be fun. You know - "Finding Nemo" which I`m sure someday they will do a sequel. But in "Finding Nemo," I played a fish, but it was just the voice. It was an animated film. And now, this is live-action. I`m actually going to be playing Mother Nature and I get to control the weather and save the earth. And that`s like the ultimate superhero. And I`m hoping I get to wear a cape.
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ANDERSON: The untitled movie is a comedy. No word yet on when it will be released. Maybe during September. Earth, Wind and Fire song?
Aha. OK. Moving now to the SHOWBIZ lineup, here is what is coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE:: Get of the garage! Out, out, out!
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ANDERSON: The octomom brings two of her babies home and it`s complete chaos. Tonight, an exclusive new look inside the octuplet mom`s house.
Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer - who dumped whom? Brand-new, juicy details of what happened.
And Beyonce reveals if she is ready to start having kids with Jay-Z. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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ANDERSON: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, the octomom brings two of her babies home. And it`s complete chaos. Tonight, an exclusive new look inside the octuplet mom`s house. We`ve got the guy with the explosive video right here. Plus, should we even be more worried about all of the octomom`s kids now? Is the family in danger?
Brand-new secrets of Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer`s breakup. Who dumped whom? And how is Jen doing right now?
Plus more stories breaking from the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker."
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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Hello again. Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m Brooke Anderson, coming to you tonight from Hollywood.
Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is bringing you the stories you haven`t heard about some of the octuplet babies finally coming home.
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Check out the wild scene outside octomom Nadya Suleman`s house Tuesday night as she brings home the first two of her octuplets. The paparazzi swarming the SUV as the it pulls into Suleman`s garage. The photographers following her into her garage to get the shot.
And tonight, we are bringing you the exclusive look inside octomom`s home as the babies arrive Tuesday. Suleman`s older children meeting the babies for the very first time.
Plus, we`ve got octomom`s reaction to the melee outside and why she is now saying she hopes the fascination with her family dies down sooner rather than later.
But in the meantime, should we be even more worried about all of octomom`s kids now that some of the octuplets are home? Could this crazy rush to get the shot, the picture, the fascination over the babies put her whole family in danger? We`re going to talk about this in a moment.
But first, joining me tonight in Hollywood, Chris Myers from RadarOnline.com. "Radar Online" got the exclusive inside look of Octomom`s new home.
Chris, I do want to look again at this explosive new video, the crush of paparazzi outside of Nadya Suleman`s home as she pulled up with two of the babies from the octuplets. Chris, this frenzy is down right scary. Your camera crews were right there, front and center, getting it from inside the octomom`s car. Tell me what it was like.
CHRIS MYERS, "RADARONLINE.COM": Well, Brooke, hi. This is like O.J., Britney, Lindsay - all having a big paparazzifest. I mean this was ...
ANDERSON: Yikes.
MYERS: ... a feeding frenzy like I have never seen. And L.A. is known for paparazzi feeding fests. But it was down right scary look you said. It was sheer chaos.
ANDERSON: O.J., Lindsay and Britney. That is frightening.
MYERS: Yes. Well, I mean - and Nadya, she was, for a brief moment, inside the vehicle. She was scared. You had people jumping on top of the vehicle to get the shot. And that`s because outlets will pay money for the shots. So the paparazzi are going to do whatever they can do to get that shot.
ANDERSON: Yes.
MYERS: So while we were pulling in, while our team was pulling in to the house, you saw just this melee, this swarm attack, the vehicle. They damaged the vehicle. It`s dented. Then we pulled into the garage. The garage wouldn`t come down. They ran into the garage.
She tried to - you know, we tried to get everyone out because they were on private property getting the shot. It`s fine to get the shot in the street. But there was no - you know, the cops weren`t there to control the situation. So that was the result.
ANDERSON: Yes, you know - and you can tell she looks frustrated. She does look a little bit scared. And in some of the video that you guys shot, we do get to see some of Nadya`s older kids greeting the babies when she walks in with them, "Radar Online" cameras there exclusively. How did the older kids react?
MYERS: Well, you know what? The older kids were very excited. They knew this was happening. I mean they didn`t know about the frenzy outside. But on the inside, they knew that two of their little brothers were coming home. They were very, you know, excited. And when they showed up, there was hugs and kisses.
And you know Nadya was concerned and she still is concerned about how the other six children are going to interact with the new eight octuplets because, you know, you are talking 14 children, around-the-clock care. And she is worried the other six children - you know, how is she going to spend time with all of these kids?
ANDERSON: Yes, and it is going to turn their world upside down. It`s not an atmosphere they`re used to. So legitimate concerns for sure. Chris Myers, thank you so much for sharing your video. We appreciate it. Good to see you.
MYERS: Thanks, Brooke.
ANDERSON: And tonight we are asking - should we be even more worried about all the octomom`s kids now that some of the octuplet babies have come home?
Joining me tonight in New York, Cooper Lawrence, who is a psychologist and the author of "The Cult of Celebrity." Also in New York, Jane Velez- Mitchell, host of the fabulous show "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL." That is seen weekday nights at 7:00 p.m. Eastern right here on HLN.
Hey, Cooper, I`ll begin with you. From what you just saw, should we be concerned?
COOPER LAWRENCE, PSYCHOLOGIST: We have been concerned the whole time. I`m so happy to see that she is finally concerned. I mean there was a moment in the back of the car where you saw that she really realized what she created here.
And she realized that maybe she might have made a mistake. And I see why people have sympathy for her because I think they saw this side of her all along even though we are seeing it the first time.
But this is a great example of how television desensitizes people. You get somebody like Nadya Suleman home watching this thinking, "That looks like a glamorous life," until you are in it. And then it is a whole different story.
ANDERSON: Yes. It`s like reality set in. Jane, it was a mob scene. How worried should we be?
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL": Well, I think that scene out there totally crazy. And I would say that I think it is irresponsible on the part of the paparazzi. On the part of the public involved, however, I will say I have been in those media scrums and the problem is, if one outlet goes and gets a good shot, and you`re there and you don`t follow them and you miss it, you can get in trouble.
So it`s competitive craziness. Law enforcement could have predicted this would have happened. They should have known and they should have been there with barricades. They have done it many times for celebrities. This woman is a celebrity whether she wants to admit it or not.
I do not understand why the police were not there to keep this situation under control. It was absolute bedlam. And people can get hurt. I have been injured in these stampedes. It can happen.
ANDERSON: Yes. And maybe authorities like you say should have been a little bit more prepared for a crowd like this. Well, we were watching what was happening outside. But the octomom - you know, she came home to a camera crew inside her house as well.
As you know, "Radar Online" has been interviewing her over the past few weeks. And when they asked if she could have imagined the attention she was going to receive when the octuplets began to come home. She said something pretty darn surprising. Watch this.
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SULEMAN: I couldn`t imagine this happening at all. I don`t see why they are so fascinating. I`ve understand because of the babies, but they are covered. You can`t even see them. It didn`t make sense to me.
I am still in denial. I still keep telling myself that every week it`s going to die down. It`s going to slowly disappear as the time progresses. It will slowly go away. We will have a year until they turn one, I think. Then we will have a break.
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ANDERSON: Cooper, she sounds downright dumbstruck by all the attention. Come on, should she really be surprised that given, you know, she has had a camera crew following her every move for weeks?
LAWRENCE: Well, Brooke, the only person surprised right here seems to be her. You know, people watch this and they`re rolling their eyes, thinking, "You are wondering why we are fascinated? You came to us. You came to Dr. Phil. You came to the "Today" show. You created this for yourself. And now you are surprised that we are interested? Really?"
And I just think this shows - to me, this reads like more of the mental instability. Because this reads as somebody who acts on impulsivity. She behaves and now, the consequences are happening. So she didn`t think about the consequences ahead of time. Now, she`s considering them and it is a little late.
ANDERSON: Yes. And you know, she, like you say, really did initially put herself, thrust herself into the spotlight. Jane, is she responsible for this three-ring circus?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Of course, she is responsible, Brooke. And she is a metaphor for everything that`s wrong with our society. All of us in America feel that whatever we want, whether it`s 14 kids or something that is environmentally incorrect, we need - we have to have.
And then we are shocked, absolutely shocked, by the consequences, like global warming and the case of something that is bad, like having 14 kids, mobbed by the paparazzi in her case. We do not consider the consequences of our actions.
And I think one of the reasons why America is so fascinated with the story is that she is us. She is a mirror, an extreme example of what happens when we just give way to all of our cravings and desires and anything we want we tell ourselves we need.
ANDERSON: Oh, it is quite disturbing to see this scene and to see that these babies are coming home, not to a calm, serene environment, but to this craziness, this mob scene, this circus. Cooper Lawrence, Jane Velez- Mitchell, we`ll leave it there for now. Thank you both.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thank you.
LAWRENCE: Thanks.
ANDERSON: AND we have been asking you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day, "Octomom`s Fame Game: Are her kids at risk?" Keep voting at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. E-mail us showbiztonight@cnn.com.
Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer went from the "it couple" of the Oscars to splitsville in a hurry. So what`s the real deal behind their A- list breakup? Tonight, we are digging deep to find out who dumped whom. Plus, how is Jen coping now? It`s the Maniston fallout you haven`t heard.
And also this -
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MOOS: These days.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: AIG against the world
MOOS: It`s the world against CEOs.
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ANDERSON: Outrage economics is fueling big-time laughs on TV and online. You have just got to see the hilarious new spoofs that are becoming Internet sensations.
Also tonight, Beyonce`s bombshell revelation about having kids. Beyonce in her own words, just ahead. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: "60 Minutes" creator Don Hewitt has pancreatic cancer. Brad Pitt and Natalie Portman to co-produce and co-star in romantic comedy.
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ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
Tonight, Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer - who dumped whom? It`s a SHOWBIZ special report, Hollywood`s A-list. Jen and John`s on-again, off- again relationship is off again. There are brand-new details out tonight in the upcoming issue of "People" magazine about who dumped whom this time around. And did John Mayer Twitter about the breakup? Plus, we are helping Jen find love again.
With me tonight in New York is David Caplan who is a senior editor for "People" magazine. David, good to see you.
CAPLAN: Good to see you.
ANDERSON: Hey, to say that John Mayer and Jennifer Aniston have had a rollercoaster relationship would be an understatement. Let`s roll out the "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Newsline," shall we?
CAPLAN: Let`s do it.
ANDERSON: They were first spotted together in Miami last April while Jennifer was filming "Marley and Me." They were low-key until their surprise split last August which sparked Mayer`s New York City street corner rant blaming himself for the breakup.
Then, a month later, they were back on and finally made their relationship public at an Oscar`s party in February. Then, not two weeks later, the news that John and Jen split again.
David, what has "People" magazine learned about this latest split? Who dumped whom?
CAPLAN: Well, the split we`re now hearing is mutual. Sources tell "People" actually, neither of them were particularly happy in this relationship. They ended it very recently when Jennifer returned from Europe where she was promoting "Marley and Me."
John, meanwhile, had stayed back in L.A. recording songs for an upcoming album. When they came back, they decided to split. Jen, you know, she was getting the companionship and she liked hanging out with John. But he was not ultimately the ideal guy that she wanted.
John, on the other hand, he wasn`t really that much into this serious relationship with Jennifer. Because at the same time, he is a bit of a serial dater, a source tells "People."
ANDERSON: OK. So you say that it was a mutual breakup. Let me ask you this. From what you have learned, if it kind of wasn`t mutual, do you think John or Jen really even cares who is seen publicly as the person who broke it off?
CAPLAN: You know, they don`t seem to overly care. I definitely don`t think John cares because he is always the one who`s more vocal about talking about relationships.
However, Jennifer Aniston - she clearly, as we all know, given what happened with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, she had her heart broken in public. So I bet she is somebody who would rather not have any more relationships, you know, out in public like that.
ANDERSON: Very true, though she has had experience. She probably knows how to deal with it. But you know, it does seem that every time they break up, John, as you say, talks about it.
Let`s go back to that hot summer day in August, on the streets of New York City, after their first breakup. Watch this.
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JOHN MAYER, SINGER: Jennifer Aniston is the smartest, most sophisticated person I think I have ever met. And people are different. I ended the relationship to be alone because I don`t want to waste somebody`s time.
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ANDERSON: OK. And after this latest breakup, Mayer Twittered, blasting off a short message saying, "This heart didn`t come with instructions."
David, is John Mayer suffering a broken heart, or do you think he really is glad it`s over?
CAPLAN: I believe he is glad it is over. He does what he wants to do. Again, you know, a source tells "People" he likes to go from girl to girl. He`s a bit of a serial dater. And a source even tells people he likes them younger and hotter, younger and hotter. So he is not complaining.
I don`t think Jen appreciates him talking about it, because last time around, sources told "People" she was not happy that he took to the streets of New York to talk about the relationship.
ANDERSON: And she, for one, keeps her mouth shut about her personal life. David, there have been a lot of conspiracy theories out there. I want to ask you about this - that John and Jen got back together and went public just so Jen could get publicity for her new film "He`s Just Not That Into You" and her recent movie, "Marley and Me." David, do you buy that? Quickly.
CAPLAN: It is great. But you know what? She walked so many red carpets alone that I think she`s fine. She doesn`t need a guy for any of these movies.
ANDERSON: Yes. Seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to for a little bit of publicity and exposure. David Caplan, thank you so much. Great to see you.
CAPLAN: Thank you.
ANDERSON: And you can read more about John and Jen`s breakup in the brand- new issue of "People" magazine. It is on newsstands, Friday.
Tonight, bashing the bosses. Did you see this? Online and on TV, people have turned disgraced company CEOs into chief executive punching bags. They`re being mocked in song, mocked by comedians, and JetBlue has even created a tongue-in-cheek ad campaign teaching pampered executives how to jet set on a commercial airline. Here is CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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MOOS (voice over): These days -
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: AIG against the world
MOOS: It`s the world against CEOs. Take that corporate jet and shove it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The feds said them jets have got to go. Let them eat cake, CEOs.
MOOS: Seems like everyone is mocking the poor CEOs, even the nice Canadians at the CBC comedy show with their sponsor and executive skit.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He can barely afford Napoleon brandy. For only $3,700 a day, you can ensure that Wayne and CEOs just like him will still get the bonuses they already approved for themselves.
MOOS: And now, inspired by that moment when an auto company CEOs were grilled by a congressman asking -
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To raise their hand if they flew the air commercial. Let the record show no hands went up.
MOOS: Now, a viral ad campaign has gone up.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you are not a CEO, please stop watching this video immediately. Are you still there?
MOOS: JetBlue presents the CEO`s guide to commercial jetting. Now that they have had to dump their private jets, they need lessons in dealing with airport terminals.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Unlike the terminals where you parked your old private jet, T-5 is filled with regular people. Relax, Carl. Think of them as shareholders. JetBlue can get you to many cities where you already own homes or hide money. Aruba.
MOOS: The creators of the ad campaign even found inspiration in a gossip item in the pages of "The New York Post." It told of spotting the former chairman of Lehman Brothers getting instructions apparently from his driver on how to work a JetBlue ticket kiosk. That concept ended up in the ad campaign.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And there you have it. Easier than writing off a toxic asset.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Actually, we had to make this as snarky as possible.
MOOS: These two are from the JWT ad agency.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We struck a cultural chord.
MOOS (on camera): You`re just mocking those CEOs.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sorry. We`re having fun. Yes. I`m not sorry, but I kind of feel like -
MOOS (voice over): Got to show the CEO what the inside of a commercial plane looks like.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Every seat has its own private and exclusive entertainment system.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Carl Davis embezzled $48 billion from his company`s retirement fund.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, Carl. That`s OK.
MOOS: With so many companies in the toilet, that`s where the fictional CEO ends up.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: JetBlue is the next best thing to private air travel. Cheers.
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ANDERSON: That was CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Tonight, Beyonce is making some shockwaves of her own. Coming up, Beyonce`s bombshell revelations about having kids. Is she getting ready for a family? Beyonce in her own words, next. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: Kanye West faces three misdemeanors after paparazzi incident at L.A. airport. Madonna`s greatest hits album, out in Sept., will include new songs.
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ANDERSON: And welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Tonight, big Beyonce baby news. Beyonce reveals in a brand-new interview with "Vogue" magazine she`s got plans for a family with husband Jay-Z.
Beyonce confesses to "Vogue" magazine`s Web site, Style.com that she`s looking forward to the pitter-patter of little feet and a date with another guy, Oscar.
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BEYONCE KNOWLES, SINGER: Ten years from now, hopefully I`ll have a couple of children. I hopefully will - wow - maybe be doing Broadway, more movies, maybe closer to that Oscar. I`m 27 so I`ll still be young in 10 years and hopefully, I`ll be doing it as long as my fans want me to perform.
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ANDERSON: Beyonce is holding off on kids for now but she`s already having a huge influence on the first kids, Sasha and Malia Obama. Beyonce says she was shocked when Michelle Obama said that her girls love her. Quote, "She told me she was very happy that her daughters have someone like me to look up to. I`m like, `Oh, my god.` You have to feel fortunate to be one of the people whom parents don`t mind their children looking up to."
You can check out Beyonce`s interview in the new issue of "Vogue."
On Tuesday, we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Rihanna and Chris Brown: If he goes to trial, should she testify?" A whopping 91 percent of you say yes; only 9 percent say no.
Some of the E-mails we got. Tina from Pennsylvania, "Whether Rihanna testifies against Chris Brown in court should be at her discretion. The district attorney still has a case against him with or without her testimony."
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT viewers are also fired-up about the octomom. Stephanie in Florida called into the "Showbiz on Call" phone line to share her view. Here`s what she said.
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STEPHANIE, CALLER FROM FLORIDA: I haven`t really heard anybody, you know, say the fact that she hoarded all this money to have this in-vitro fertilization, that she did not save money to take care of these kids. And now, she`s turning to everybody for help. And I think that`s why everyone is so outraged with her and that`s why I am outraged.
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ANDERSON: Thank you for that, Stephanie. But Henry from New Mexico called "Showbiz on Call" to defend the octomom`s recent trip to Disneyland.
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HENRY, CALLER FROM NEW MEXICO: If she wants to go out and have a little bit of fun before she has to take care of all those kids, then just let her. No, she`s not doing anything wrong. She`s trying to have a little bit of a good time before she has to sit there with eight kids, plus the six she already has and just watch them. You know, people are being too bitter about it.
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ANDERSON: Thank you, Henry. The Showbiz on Call phone lines are always open at 1-888-SBT-BUZZ; 1-888-728-2899.
That is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. Take care.
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