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Brand-New Hulk-O.J. Outrage; Exclusive with Kim Goldman; The Donald Disses Rosie Yet Again; Octomom for Sale; Billy Ray Cyrus Defends His Daughter; The Susan Boyle Phenomenon

Aired April 16, 2009 - 23:00   ET

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A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, the brand-new Hulk-O.J. outrage. Why did Hulk apparently say he totally understands why O.J. Simpson may have killed his wife? Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with Hulk`s unbelievable cutthroat comment.

Plus, an explosive SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive. Kim Goldman, whose brother O.J. was also accused of killing. Tonight, her personal Hulk and O.J. outrage in the interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

There he blows again. Tonight, why is Donald Trump dissing Rosie O`Donnell again?

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DONALD TRUMP, BUSINESS TYCOON: Rosie`s an animal, you know, who has failed at almost everything she`s ever done.

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HAMMER: What set off the Donald this time? And should he just let it go already?

Tonight, octomom for sale. The outrageous brand-new video game inspired by the octodrama.

TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.

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Hello, I`m A.J. Hammer, broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City.

BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: Hi there, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson, coming to you tonight from Hollywood. And tonight, the explosive brand-new outrage over Hulk Hogan`s O.J. Simpson remarks including a SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive.

HAMMER: Hulk Hogan today continued to dig himself even deeper in after what he said in an interview with "Rolling Stone" magazine. The wrestling and reality show star compares his rage over his bitter divorce battle with Linda with the Simpson murder case.

And now, tonight, Hulk is trying to backtrack on the viral remarks that he made, saying they were all taken out of context. But Hulk`s ex- wife Linda is just furious over the comment. And today, she told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that she now fears for her life.

And tonight, in a SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive, Kim Goldman is here. Kim, of course, is the sister of Ron Goldman who was killed alongside O.J.`s wife, Nicole. Kim, I do I really appreciate you being here with us tonight.

I want to take a look now at what Hulk Hogan did say in that "Rolling Stone" interview when he was talking about 48-year-old Linda and her teenage boyfriend. These are Hulk Hogan`s words, quote, "I could have turned everything into a crime scene like O.J., cutting everybody`s throat. You see a 19-year-old boy driving your Escalade and you know that a 19- year-old boy is sleeping in your bed with your wife. I mean, I totally understand O.J. I get it."

Kim, I`ve got to ask you, when you first heard what Hulk Hogan said, I`m guessing you were just outraged, weren`t you?

KIM GOLDMAN, SISTER OF RON GOLDMAN: I was and I was immediately reminded that those were words that the killer used many, many years ago before he killed Ron and Nicole. And to hear the same level of anger Hulk Hogan expressed - this was very reminiscent of what we heard in all of the, you know, interviews and stuff with the killer and the 911 tapes of Nicole. I mean, it`s all leading up to those murders.

HAMMER: And now that everybody is talking about it and the outrage is flying around, Hulk Hogan said he`s just being misunderstood here. I`m having a hard time wrapping my head around it.

He and his attorney are now basically responding to the outrage that`s really been growing since these comments were first made public. And they tell TMZ that they were taken out of context. Watch what Hulk is saying about all this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The problem is "Page Six" included one sentence of a multi-page interview. All that was said was by example how he didn`t behave like O.J. And "Page Xix," of course, posted as though he`s comparing himself to O.J.

HULK HOGAN, PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER AND REALITY TV STAR: I spent three days with the wrier from "Rolling Stone" talking about being positive and happy and walking in the spirit of Christ. And he asked me, "Why didn`t you flip out?" Well, I didn`t jump off the Empire State Building. I didn`t buy a white Bronco. I didn`t do the O.J. Simpson thing. I took the high road." So I guess that`s a teaser to sell magazines.

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HAMMER: All right. Right there, he`s saying I didn`t do the O.J. Simpson thing, Hulk saying his comments were taken out of context. The idea that he understands that what O.J. might have been thinking - Kim, do you buy this defense at all?

GOLDMAN: You know, listen, we`ve all said some stupid things in our life. But also think that when you are a public figure, you should know better and that you don`t accidentally say something as violent and as vile as he did if it`s not buried in your brain somewhere.

And even in his comments to sort of cover up what he said, he still refers to the killer again. He still makes a comment about throwing some guy into the ring. I think it was probably in reference to his ex-wife`s boyfriend. I mean, there`s still violent tendencies that are attached to it. And it`s very sad. It`s a sad state of affairs that we`re that glib about taking somebody else`s life or about a violent reaction to a marital problem.

HAMMER: Yes. I mean, it raises a lot of questions, raising eyebrows all across the country. Kim, I want you to stay with us because joining me right now in New York is Cooper Lawrence. Cooper is a psychologist and author of "The Cult of Celebrity." Also, in New York tonight, the lovely Jane Velez-Mitchell, host of "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL." You can watch her show weekday nights, 7:00 p.m. Eastern right here on HLN.

I want to start with you, Jane. You covered the O.J. Simpson trial. You were right there when all of it was going on. Does Kim and everyone else truly have the right to be outraged at Hulk Hogan suggesting that he understands the rage O.J. might have felt?

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL": The family of Ron Goldman, who was murdered, has a right to be outraged, disgusted, repulsed, just like the rest of us are. This is horrific. And what boggles my mind is he doesn`t even apologize. He spins it and says, "I should be complimented for taking the high road for saying I didn`t pull an O.J."

This man is emotionally stunted. He is a 16-year-old boy trapped in a man`s body. And I believe he`s a rage-aholic and I think he really needs to get help. He revealed himself in that interview, and what he revealed was really disgusting, pathetic, callous, thoughtless. He needs to take that little headband of his and crawl under a rock and disappear.

HAMMER: And I think with his excuses that he was trying to fly in that TMZ clip, I think it just shows that there`s a real disconnect going on there. Now, understandably, Linda Hogan is now saying she fears for her life since she heard those comments that Hulk made about her.

Well, this afternoon, in a brand-new statement to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, here`s what Linda is saying, quote, "Hulk thinks he can do whatever he wants, to whomever he wants, whenever he wants. He is your classic narcissist who demands total control and will go to any extent necessary to get it. His violent and scary mood swings have been my nightmare for too many years. I hope for the sake of our kids that he gets the psychological help for himself and the safety of others."

Cooper Lawrence, off to you. What do you think, should Linda Hogan be worried?

COOPER LAWRENCE, PSYCHOLOGIST: She should be very worried. And let me just say you don`t get credit for not killing somebody. So his comments are just bizarre and they`re not taken out of context. I read the article. They`re in context and they`re frightening.

And Linda should be concerned, because we do see a pattern with people who do kill their spouses. And we do see pattern behavior and we do see aggressive tendencies. And this is not simple "`roid" rage. This is somebody who has very serious aggression and maybe the steroids have brought it out. Maybe years of being a narcissist have brought it out.

But we definitely have seen a lot of impulsive behavior on his part that hopefully, one day, will not be the ultimate. But remember, he gave his gun to his lawyer. So clearly, on some level, he feels that he cannot be left alone in the house with a gun.

HAMMER: Well, Kim Goldman, you`ve been very productive. You`ve done a lot of good since the murder of your brother, being an outspoken advocate on behalf of crime victims. What would you say to Linda Hogan right now given all we know?

GOLDMAN: Well, I think that she`s doing what she`s supposed to be doing, which is taking, you know, the right steps, the legal steps to make sure that she`s safe and protected.

And you know, you don`t accidentally make comments, like I said, unless it`s buried in your brain somewhere. And hearing him speak about justifying his behavior because of what he saw with his ex-wife is very reminiscent to what we heard.

And I hope this is a reminder of all women that are trapped in relationships or bad marriages or men that might be abusive or whatever, to take notice and if you have a fear that you should react appropriately and take the law into your own hands, not your own violent tendencies.

HAMMER: Yes. Hopefully people really paying attention and getting the help that they need if they`re in this kind of situation.

GOLDMAN: Yes, very sad.

HAMMER: As I`ve said, everybody is talking about this. The ladies of "The View" got into a heated debate today about Hulk`s comments. Now, some of the ladies defended Hulk saying they kind of get where they`re coming from. Barbara Walters, however, plugged right into the outrage that we`re talking about right now. I want you to watch what was said.

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BARBARA WALTERS, CO-HOST AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER, "THE VIEW": Everybody understands, but that doesn`t mean that you`re going to take a knife to.

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SHERRI SHEPHERD, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": I don`t think Hulk Hogan meant what he said. I think he was trying -

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WALTERS: We understand, and he has since apologized. But what upsets everybody is violence.

SHEPHERD: Anybody who has dealt with that, you know that there`s a little second. There is a feeling that comes up in your stomach.

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WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Sometimes it lasts for a couple of years.

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HAMMER: All right. I certainly get what Sherri and Whoopi are saying there. But Jane, let`s remember Hulk did say on top of everything, "I mean, I totally understand O.J. I get it." To me, that doesn`t come across flip at all, regardless of whether or not what he said was literal.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: This guy is - he epitomizes the worst of our culture, which is a glorification of violence. And this is in a sense professional defamation. Because what did he do for a living? He was a pro-wrestler who slammed people to the ground.

So he`s used to getting applause and getting credit for being violent. So his first reaction is violent. And we have to look in the mirror and ask ourselves as a society, why is this guy a star? Why are we caring and giving this guy attention at all?

And why are we so enthralled by violence, whether it`s in a wrestling ring or on television or in the movies? We have to look at - if we want a peaceful society, we have to be peaceful. And the first thing we can do to be peaceful is reject knuckleheads like this guy, Hulk Hogan.

HAMMER: Well, I`ve got to tell you, I think obviously a lot of healing needs to start now as far as all this is concerned. Hulk perhaps needs to get help and certainly come forward with a sincere mea culpa of an apology.

Cooper Lawrence, Jane Velez-Mitchell, Kim Goldman, I do appreciate you all being with us. Thank you.

ANDERSON: Hey, A.J., the drama surrounding the octomom just took another outrageous turn.

HAMMER: Yes, Brooke, I`ve got to tell you, I thought this story was already strange enough. But alas, there is now brand-new octodrama. Wait until you see the outrageous new video game inspired by the octodrama. It is so wild. Plus, is the octomom really battling to sell and protect her octoname?

Also this.

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TRUMP: Rosie is an animal, you know, who has failed at almost everything she`s ever done. And Barbara was very nice and then Rosie put her in a very, very bad position.

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ANDERSON: Donald Trump`s brand-new war of words. But why is he dissing Rosie O`Donnell again? What set him off this time and why, oh why won`t he just let it go?

HAMMER: Also tonight, Miley Cyrus` dad, Billy Ray, coming out swinging over the nasty and just vile things that Jamie Foxx said about his 16-year- old superstar daughter. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

ANDERSON: And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.

TEXT: Rihanna set to perform for the first time since Chris Brown incident in Dubai May 28. Divorce case with Bruce Springsteen as "the other man" to remain in public record.

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JOHN MADDEN, BROADCASTING LEGEND: To say that this is going to be a defensive team, no way. This is all about offense.

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ANDERSON: Broadcasting legend John Madden is hanging up his microphone after nearly 30 years covering the NFL. 73-year-old Madden worked for the past three seasons on NBC`s Sunday Night NFL game. He started as a player, became a Super Bowl-winning head coach, and then turned to broadcasting in 1979.

Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. Tonight, did you see this? Wow, what a mansion. Wait until you see Candy Spelling`s home. She`s the widow of legendary TV producer Aaron Spelling and estranged mom of actress Tori Spelling.

Candy says because of her rift with her daughter, she`s telling Tori`s childhood home and moving out. Asking price for the Spelling Manor? A whopping $150 million.

Now thanks to our friends at "LARRY KING LIVE" and comedian Chelsea Handler, we`re getting an inside look at the mansion that is so amazing you would have to see it to believe.

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CHELSEA HANDLER, COMEDIAN: We`re here at the world-renowned manor, which is where you`ve lived for several years, right? And you built this property with your husband?

CANDY SPELLING, WIDOW OF AARON SPELLING: Yes, I did.

HANDLER: OK. And you`re going to give me a special tour, right?

C. SPELLING: Yes, I am.

HANDLER: Just me and Larry King and these three people that watch.

C. SPELLING: Right.

HANDLER: OK.

SPELLING: I always had a dream about - when I saw "Gone with the Wind" I wanted - someday if I have a house this big, I want the same stairs.

HANDLER: You really had a good husband.

C. SPELLING: Yes, I did.

HANDLER: Yes. That`s why you can never get married again because you can`t replicate that.

C. SPELLING: No.

HANDLER: Maybe the staircase, but not the husband.

C. SPELLING: All right. This is our living room and I have all my various collections. I collect candy dishes as you see around.

HANDLER: Yes, you love to collect things, right?

C. SPELLING: I do.

HANDLER: You collect dolls, right? Is that correct?

C. SPELLING: I collect dolls. I collect ball clocks. The arcade room.

HANDLER: There`s a Ms. Pac Man machine. You guys aren`t going to see me for a couple of hours. That`s my favorite game in the universe.

C. SPELLING: I had this made for my husband.

HANDLER: OK. Oh, that`s sweet.

C. SPELLING: This is like his life - this one here.

HANDLER: That`s Randy, Tori and you and your husband. And that`s the house.

C. SPELLING: That`s the house.

HANDLER: Look, the manor.

C. SPELLING: This is the bowling alley.

HANDLER: Oh, bowling. Oh, my gosh. Camera back to me, please. Thank you. What did I tell you? That was a home run, everybody. This is the very infamous gift-wrapping room. Oh, my goodness. Do you actually wrap the gifts yourself?

C. SPELLING: Oh, yes. I love it.

HANDLER: That`s the one thing you do?

C. SPELLING: Yes.

HANDLER: Wow. That`s amazing. You really like gift-wrapping because that`s the one thing I don`t do. OK. Come on, Madison. Is this a coy pond?

C. SPELLING: No, this is a lily pond. The coy pond is over a little further.

HANDLER: So let`s take a look at the coy pond. Oh, look at the beautiful fish. See, that`s the kind of fish that I`m looking to get. I love those big fish. Did Aaron at any point ever say, "Maybe let`s not get too carried away?"

C. SPELLING: Yes, he saw the budget for the house. Everything you`re doing, this is what we`re spending and that`s it.

HANDLER: And this is actually the only house in the United States that`s bigger than the White House, right?

C. SPELLING: Yes.

HANDLER: And then, here we are, back at the driveway, which leads back up to our humble abode, everybody. Oh, you can`t get in. You`re locked out. Oh, look at this. Candy Spelling is locked out of her own house.

C. SPELLING: I am. They won`t let me in.

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ANDERSON: I`m sure she was able to get back in. And you know, despite Candy`s claims that Tori doesn`t want her in her life, Tori says her mom is welcome to have a relationship with her Tori`s two kids. I certainly hope they work that out.

HAMMER: I love that she collects candy dishes. That`s funny to me.

ANDERSON: Yes. Me, too.

HAMMER: All right, Brooke. Let`s move on to the "Showbiz on Call" phone lines. They keep cranking, a lot of people calling in about the whole Jamie Foxx-Miley Cyrus controversy. Foxx went on a crude rant making fun of Miley, even suggesting she should make a sex tape.

And I`ve got to tell you, even our "Showbiz on Call" operators were outraged. Look at them. They`ve been working overtime to catch up on the amazing number of calls coming in.

ANDERSON: Yes. No kidding, A.J. We got a call in to "Showbiz on Call" from Robert in Missouri who says, don`t be so hard on Jamie. He`s just a comedian.

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CALLER: I think what Jamie Foxx did is no different than any of the other comedians that are out there. "Saturday Night Live" and other comedians that made fun of Britney Spears and other people many times and said mean things, said much worse that what he has said. And they did those while they are minors. So if you`re going to make Miley Cyrus off-limits, everyone should be off-limits.

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ANDERSON: Thanks, Robert. April in California also called in to "Showbiz on Call" to say Jamie was way out of line.

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CALLER: I`m sorry, but that`s totally unacceptable what he said about Miley Cyrus. I`m not a fan of hers, but she`s 16. She`s just a teenager. And even if she was 27, being a comedian does not make you immune to the fact that you should behave yourself. He has a daughter, he should know better.

And I`m sick of these people saying, "Well, I`m a comic. I can do what I want. It`s a free country." No, be a gentleman. It`s not funny. It`s just disgusting and he should know better.

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HAMMER: Thanks, April. Call us at "Showbiz on Call" and let us know what you think about this or anything at all.

ANDERSON: The "Showbiz on Call" phone lines always open, 1-888-SBT-BUZZ; 1-888-728-2899.

HAMMER: So Brooke, did you hear the octomom may be for sale?

ANDERSON: Yes, well, not the octomom herself, but at least her name.

HAMMER: Yes. You`ve got to hear what the octuplet mother Nadya Suleman is doing now to make sure she cashes in on her name and her fame. But she`s got some competition from a pretty outrageous octovideo game.

Also this.

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TRUMP: Rosie is an animal, you know, who has failed at almost everything she`s ever done. And Barbara was very nice and then Rosie put her in a very, very bad position.

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HAMMER: The Trumpster calling Rosie O`Donnell an animal. But wait, hasn`t he done this before? Why can`t he let it go?

ANDERSON: And the celebrity rat race to remember. Ratalina Jolie. Robert Ratford. Hannah Ratanah? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

HAMMER: Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.

TEXT: "Slumdog Millionaire" producers give $750,000 to kids in Mumbai slums. LeAnn Rimes to sing national anthem at the Kentucky Derby.

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HAMMER: Oh, rats. Did you see this? Now, we know you wouldn`t want to miss it. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is your front row ticket to the annual running of the rodents. This year, the rats have gone Hollywood.

We have Hannah Ratanah. Robert Ratford. Ratalina Jolie. And of course, you have Bo-rat. Huh? The winner of the most exciting two seconds in sports, Ratalina. Yes, kind of figures, even the rat version of Angelina Jolie is a superstar, Brooke.

ANDERSON: Yes.

HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I am A.J. Rat-Hammer.

ANDERSON: And I am Brooke Anderson with more stories making news right now. And hey, do you remember Rudy Huxtable?

HAMMER: Sure.

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KESHIA KNIGHT PULLIAM, ACTRESS, AS RUDY HUXTABLE: Daddy?

BILL COSBY, ACTOR, AS CLIFF HUXTABLE: Yes, dear?

PULLIAM: I want to watch television.

COSBY: Yes. See, we`re having a funeral for your fish.

PULLIAM: I want to watch TV now.

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ANDERSON: The actress who gave us lots of laughs as Rudy on "The Cosby Show" is all grown up now. And she is set to play herself in a brand-new reality TV show. Keshia Knight Pulliam and her live-in boyfriend, entrepreneur Kaseem Penn, will star in "Keshia and Kaseem." The Oxygen Network says the show will explore what it`s like being young, rich, single and cohabitating. An air date hasn`t been set yet.

HAMMER: A history-making event, thanks to YouTube. The online video sharing site helped assemble a symphony orchestra with musicians from around the world. This is pretty cool.

And the best part, the chosen group got to perform in New York City`s famed Carnegie Hall. Here`s the composer and musician giving us just a little sample of the amazing event.

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TAN DUN, COMPOSER AND CONDUCTOR, YOUTUBE SYMPHONY: When I was conceiving this work on the streets of New York, London, Beijing, Shanghai, I heard the street noise, then I thought, "My God, this is the spirit beyond. This is the spirit of today."

JENNIFER LINDSAY, YOUTUBE SYMPHONY: I`ve been to Carnegie Hall before. I sat in the audience and watched performances. I dreamed about being on stage, and I never thought it would happen at all.

DUN: The whole world tonight is Googling around what`s happening in Carnegie Hall.

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HAMMER: Everybody is Googling. The musicians were chosen by YouTube voters from more than 3,000 videos from more than 70 countries.

ANDERSON: Wow. All right. Now, the SHOWBIZ lineup. Here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

The octomom for sale. The outrageous video game inspired by the octodrama. Wait until you see this unbelievable game.

Donald Trump`s brand-new war of words. Why is he dissing Rosie O`Donnell again? And why won`t he just let it go?

A worldwide phenomenon tonight. For the very first time, we are hearing from the woman whose story and voice has captured the world`s imagination. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

HAMMER: Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.

TEXT: TV classic "Father Knows Best" to be turned into feature film. Celine Dion part of group trying to but Montreal Canadiens pro hockey team.

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HAMMER: Now on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, octomom for sale. Tonight, the octomom in a wild legal battle to make sure she cashes in on her nickname. But wait until you hear the competition she`s facing. It`s an outrageous octovideo game

Tonight, Miley Cyrus` dad, Billy Ray, comes out swinging over the nasty and vile things Jamie Foxx said about Billy Ray`s 16-year-old superstar daughter.

And Donald Trump, did you not ever hear if you can`t say something nice about someone, don`t say anything at all? I guess not, because the Donald-Rosie smackdown-showdown is on again. But why, Donald, why?

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TRUMP: Rosie is an animal, you know, who has failed at almost everything she`s ever done. And Barbara was very nice and then Rosie put her in a very, very bad position.

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HAMMER: Plus, more stories breaking from the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker."

TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.

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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer, broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City.

ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson, coming to you from Hollywood. And tonight, the octomom for sale.

HAMMER: Yes, Brooke. Tonight, we`ve got two big octomom stories that are new right now. And is that the sound of a cash register I`m hearing? Why, yes it is. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can now tell you that octomom Nadya Suleman is trying to legally trademark her infamous nickname to be used perhaps in a TV show or even in a line of diapers.

But get this, she may actually have to duke it out with a company that wants the trademark octomom for a game that can be played on iPhone. Now, this game would feature a pregnant octomom and when you press down on her belly, she pops out a baby. I`m in.

Joining me tonight in New York, Cooper Lawrence who is a psychologist and author of this book, "The Cult of Celebrity." And with me tonight from Hollywood, Leslie Marshall, the host of the syndicated radio show, "The Leslie Marshall Show."

All right. So here`s what`s going on. The octomom has officially filed two applications with our federal government to trademark her name. Now, in her application she notes, and I love this, "It would be for dresses, pants, shirts and disposables and textile diapers as well as a TV variety program," by the way. Ridiculous as all of that sounds, Leslie, can you blame octomom for cashing in on the name that`s made her famous?

LESLIE MARSHALL, HOST, "THE LESLIE MARSHALL SHOW": Well, yes, I can, A.J. Because what about "I don`t want all this attention? Poor me, I just care about my babies." We`re talking big ka-ching here. We`re talking about bling-bling. And when she talks about all those shoes and pants and shirts she gets to mention, they`re for her. I told you, this girl`s playing us and now she`s playing our checkbooks.

HAMMER: Well, no. She has an excuse for this because, obviously, we know in the past she said, "Don`t call me octomom, I don`t want all the attention." But today, perhaps in need of a little attention, octomom spoke with "Radar Online" about how she feels about being called octomom and why she decided to trademark her name. Let`s watch that.

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NADYA SULEMAN, OCTUPLET MOTHER: I never invented that name. I don`t know if everyone else did. But people choose who you are going to be. You know, I was thrust into all this without my awareness and without my willingness. And now I feel almost like I have no choice but to do what I can to support the kids.

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HAMMER: Yes. She thinks she has no choice. Now, Cooper, what do you think here? If a line of octodiapers and clothing comes out, number one, are people going to buy it? Number two, can we sign you up?

LAWRENCE: Oh, yes. Well, you know, I heard that the diapers are going to be sold in a pack of 14. You know, you can only afford one.

HAMMER: Yes. OK. That`s perfect. Perfect.

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LAWRENCE: No, I`ve got to say something. No, of course, they`re not. You know what? If you`re the kind of person that`s going to buy this, you deserve what you get. You deserve an image of somebody that doesn`t know anything about taking care of children, that has no respect for children, that wants to exploit your children. So if you`re that kind of person, this is the line of clothing and diapers for you.

HAMMER: Well, I`ve got to tell you, this is not a done deal yet. Suleman has some competition and, you know, they say don`t mess with Texas. There`s a Texas company that has already filed a trademark application for the name. They did it a month before she did because they want to use the name for their iPhone game.

Now, I got to read to you how they describe this game. This is fantastic. Here`s what you do, "You press down on octomom`s swollen belly and another adorable bundle of joy will be brought into the world." But wait, there`s more, "Each baby earns welfare money. Having babies while the paparazzi is in the room earns a cash bonus. Money of course is used to buy more fertility shots. Fertility shots let octomom have more babies."

You know, I`m just wondering what the sound effects are going to be like for this particular game. Leslie Marshall, in all seriousness, if that`s possible here, is this just plain out of line to have a game like this?

MARSHALL: Oh, you know, it should be. But I have to admit I would look at it, and I probably would push the belly a couple of times. And I know the injections would hurt a lot less than when I was injecting myself with my I.V.F.

You know, it seems that it would be out of line. But A.J., I mean, seriously, the culture we`re living in - it`s a bad economy. If people can make a buck ...

HAMMER: Yes.

MARSHALL: And you know what? She brought this on herself. I`m thinking maybe dead beat dad diaper Jeannie(ph) might be next.

HAMMER: 99 cents for an apple like that, I`m thinking how do I avoid it. That`s all. Now, Cooper, what do you think, though? What we hear Leslie saying bad economy. People should be able to do this. Is there anything wrong regardless of how they do with others trying to cash in on octomom or even this kind of video game?

LAWRENCE: Oh, I`m with Leslie. I think if you can exploit octomom like she is exploiting herself and her children, I mean, go for it. Why should she be the only one making money off of this whole adventure that she`s on? I mean, believe that she had those children just to be famous and just for these conversations. And here we are.

HAMMER: And here we are indeed. But you know what? She needs the money and she will keep crying that cry is what I think is going to continue to happen here. Leslie Marshall, Cooper Lawrence, I`ll buy you the game if it comes out. Thanks for being here tonight.

ANDERSON: Tonight, for the very first time, we are hearing from the woman whose story and voice have captured the world`s imagination.

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Her name is Susan Boyle, a 47-year-old unmarried woman, who everyone, including Simon Cowell, seem to assume was nothing but a big loser. But boy has Boyle proved them wrong. Her knock-your-socks-off performance on the TV show "Britain`s Got Talent" has turned her into an overnight sensation.

And today, Susan Boyle wowed everybody again in amazing TV appearances as she told her equally amazing story. And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you it`s making big news right now.

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(voice-over): She made Barbara Walters cry on "The View."

WALTERS; We`re all sitting here with tears in our eyes.

ANDERSON: She had Kathie Lee Gifford dabbing her eyes with a sock on "Today."

KATHIE LEE GIFFORD, CO-HOST, "TODAY" SHOW: I love that woman.

ANDERSON: She even made Simon Cowell gush.

SIMON COWELL, JUDGE, "BRITAIN`S GOT TALENT": Susan Boyle, you can go back to your village with your head held high. It`s three yeses.

ANDERSON: Singing sensation Susan Boyle is moving people to tears because of what she did on Simon Cowell`s British talent show, "Britain`s Got Talent." where the skeptical audience that laughed at her on sight -

COWELL: What`s the dream?

BOYLE: I`m trying to be a professional singer.

ANDERSON: Heard her incredible singing voice and were blown away.

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Now SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you this 47-year-old unemployed Scottish woman, who said she`s never even been kissed, is now in a love affair with the entire world.

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Thanks to the YouTube clip of her amazing performance.

KIM SERAFIN, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": This clip of Susan has been viewed 11 million times. Watching Simon - his kind of frown and scowl turn into this bright grin. Hearing the crowd`s reaction - that is what is drumming up emotions in so many people.

ANDERSON: Now, for the very first time, Boyle is talking directly to TV audiences in America.

BOYLE: Breathtaking. Unbelievable.

ANDERSON: On CBS` "The Early Show," she admitted she`s had professional vocal training and her smashing singing performance was in honor of her late mother.

BOYLE: I knew it was something I had to do. I had to go on with this. I think I got this dream from my mother.

SERAFIN: It`s such an inspirational story.

ANDERSON: "In Touch Weekly`s" Kim Serafin tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT why Boyle`s touching story seems to resonate with so many people.

SERAFIN: She said that she used kind of get made fun of when she was growing up in school. She`s someone who had a dream when she was younger, kind of put it aside to take care of her mother and then came to this competition.

ANDERSON: In fact, Boyle told "The Early Show" that the audience`s initial skepticism didn`t faze her much.

MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ, CO-HOST, "THE EARLY SHOW": How did you keep it together even though everyone was laughing at you and not really taking it seriously at first?

BOYLE: Well, you have to take yourself seriously. So what I did was concentrated on the song.

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ANDERSON: And concentrate she did, bringing tears and cheers with the rendition of "I Dreamed a Dream" from the Broadway show, Les Miserables. And the praise continued on "The Early Show" when Boyle got a surprise call from the Broadway legend who first sang that song in 1985.

RODRIGUEZ: And Susan, joining us on the phone right now, we have Patty Lapone. Good morning, Patty.

PATTY LAPONE, ORIGINALLY SANG "I DREAMED A DREAM": Good morning.

RODRIGUEZ: Did you just hear that?

LAPONE: Yes, I cried. Susan, you got pluck, girl.

ANDERSON: Now, British bookmakers say Boyle is the best bet to win the "Britain`s Got Talent" competition.

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ANDERSON: But it`s her personal victory that`s resonating throughout the whole world.

SERAFIN: It seems that she gives you some sort of hope that if you have a dream, things can still happen for you. It`s not too late. It`s never too late.

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ANDERSON: Now, Susan Boyle may have scored what many consider the ultimate prize in her rags to riches story. She tells the Associated Press she`s been invited to appear on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

HAMMER: And I`m not kidding when I tell you Susan`s story and voice truly give me the chills, Brooke.

ANDERSON: Yes, me too, A.J. And you know, Billy Ray Cyrus is shaking too, but he is shaking with furry as he defends his daughter, Miley. Tonight, Billy Ray strikes back. He`s lashing out at Jamie Foxx over the comedian`s off-color and some say downright nasty comments about Miley - a sex tape and drugs.

And we`ll have this.

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TRUMP: Rosie is an animal, you know, who has failed at almost everything she`s ever done. And Barbara was very nice and then Rosie put her in a very, very bad position.

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HAMMER: Oh, should we be surprised? Donald Trump goes nuts on Rosie O`Donnell again. The Donald is picking another fight and yes, he`s dragging Barbara Walters into it, too. What the heck is his deal? That answer is next.

ANDERSON: And John Travolta`s first movie since the tragic death of his young son. Tonight, we`ve got your SHOWBIZ first look at Travolta`s brand- new film, a remake of the 1970s cult classic "The Taking of Pelham 1, 2, 3." This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.

TEXT: Supermodel Heidi Klum pregnant with her fourth child. "American Idol" star Fantasia Barrino to get reality show on VH1 next year.

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ANDERSON: Hey, welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. Tonight, Billy Ray Cyrus strikes back against Jamie Foxx, and the Donald`s brand-new attack on Rosie. They are two brand-new stories making big news right now.

Tonight, Jamie Foxx has apologized for the vile comments he made about "Hannah Montana" star Miley Cyrus. But her dad Billy Ray was clearly steamed. Wait until you hear what he said.

Plus, Donald Trump goes off on Rosie O`Donnell, again. It`s been years since the Donald attacked his favorite target. So why a brand-new Rosie rant now?

Joining me tonight, Ben Widdicombe who`s the celebrity editor for StyleList.com. Tonight, in Hollywood, Leslie Marshall, host of the "Leslie Marshall Show."

Ben, Leslie, jaws really did drop, mine included, over the vile things that Jamie Foxx said about 16-year-old Miley Cyrus on his Sirius Satellite radio show, including "Is she the one with all the gums? She has got to get a gum transplant. Make a sex tape and grow up. Get like Britney Spears and get some heroin. Do like Lindsay Lohan and get some crack in your pipe." Now look at what Miley`s dad, Billy Cyrus said today on "The Bonnie Hunt Show" in response to that.

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BONNIE HUNT, HOST, "THE BONNIE HUNT SHOW": Everybody`s talking about Jamie Foxx making those comments where he`s making a joke. I didn`t hear it but.

BILLY CYRUS, FATHER OF MILEY CYRUS: I`ll just keep it real brief and just say this, that it was hurtful. There was nothing funny about it. And quite frankly, I think if I said those things about his daughter, he might not find it so comedic.

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ANDERSON: I completely agree. Now, Jamie Foxx did later apologize. But Ben, is Billy Ray right to be angry here, that no matter how many times Foxx might apologize, this was just terrible.

BEN WIDDICOMBE, CELEBRITY EDITOR, "STYLELIST.COM": Oh, absolutely. You know, something tells me what he said on "Bonnie Hunt" was the sanitized version of what he`s really thinking.

ANDERSON: Probably.

WIDDICOMBE: Jamie`s remarks were repugnant, you know. And some people might say, well, Miley is taking on the job of being a pop culture phenomenon and she`s accepting the millions of dollars that go with it. So that makes her fair game, a bit of a target. But she`s only 16 years old. She`s a child star. And I don`t think it`s a enough for Jamie to say, "Well, I`m a comedian. I say these things." I think he crossed the line this time.

ANDERSON: Yes. And I can completely understand why Billy Ray was upset. He was defending his daughter. No parent would think this was funny - an attack on their child, unless that parent, you know, was not in their right mind.

But I do have to tell you that not everybody thinks that Foxx was out of line. In our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day, we asked on air and online - "Jamie Foxx Slams Miley Cyrus: Should making fun of the 16-year- old star be off limits? 47 percent said yes, but 53 percent said no. Leslie, are you surprised that so many people think Miley is fair game?

MARSHALL: I`m not surprised because she is in the public eye and she is a celebrity. However, I have to agree with Billy Ray on this. I mean if it were their daughter - I think Billy Ray would like to give Jamie Foxx more than an achy-breaky heart.

And I have to tell you, you know, to talk about - and Brooke, as a woman, you can appreciate this. We are trying to instill in girls to care more about their insides - their heart and their brain, not to get breast implants at 11. Not to care about, you know, their beauty.

It is so much pressure in Hollywood on people like Miley Cyrus for him to talk about gum jobs ...

ANDERSON: Yes.

MARSHALL: ... to talk about, you know, heroin and crack. It`s not that he picked on her. It`s the way he did it. He not only needs to pick on someone his own size, but his own age.

ANDERSON: Yes. And you`re right, the focus on the appearance, just reprehensible, really mean-spirited and terrible.

All right. we`re going to move right now to something else making big news. Donald Trump strikes again. Now, if you thought his bitter body 2007 battle with Rosie was over - wrong. On CNN`s "LARRY KING LIVE" last night, Donald said that Barbara Walters was always on his side, even though their friendship ended for a while over the whole ordeal. Take a look.

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TRUMP: Rosie is an animal, you know, who has failed at almost everything she`s ever done. And Barbara was very nice and then Rosie put her in a very, very bad position. And I fully understood what Barbara had to do. But Barbara did not feel comfortable doing it.

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OK, Ben, why won`t The Donald just let this thing go?

WIDDICOMBE: Because this is another chance for Donald to talk about his favorite subject - himself. You know, I have this theory that the reason why his wife Melania looks so happy in their relationship is that she doesn`t understand English. Because this man spouts twaddle 24 hours a day.

And of course, he`s just saying it to get attention because he`s selling a new book. In my personal opinion, if you pay a dime for this man`s opinion or advice, you`re an idiot.

ANDERSON: Leslie, very quickly, 10 seconds. Do you think he really hates this Rosie this much or like Ben says, is he trying to get attention?

MARSHALL: I think both. He`s trying to get attention, but I do think he hates her this much because she doesn`t give him that attention and she doesn`t worship The Donald. He should spend his millions and buy some more real estate.

ANDERSON: For crying out loud, I wish everybody would just let it go. Ben Widdicombe, Leslie Marshall, thank you both.

HAMMER: Tonight, John Travolta`s first movie since the tragic death of his young son. Tonight, we have got your SHOWBIZ first look at Travolta`s brand-new movie, a remake of the gritty 1970s cult classic "The Taking Of Pelham 1, 2, 3." And that is coming up.

Tonight, Kathy Ireland reveals the real reason behind her amazing weight loss. It has been 20 years since her first gorgeous "Sports Illustrated" swimsuit issue cover. And Ireland is still on top of Hollywood`s A-list as an author, entrepreneur, and a mother of three.

Ireland recently dropped 25 pounds that she gained, and she tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that she wants to be a role model to encourage women to take care of themselves.

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KATHY IRELAND, MODEL: Heart disease is the number one killer in women in America. And I plan to live to be 120. I want to dance at our great grandchildren`s wedding. So I owe it to myself and to my family to be healthy, and I need accountability. I need buddies. I want to shout out and thank my Twitter buddies for just the encouragement and support. It`s wonderful, and there`s support out there for you. You`ve just got to go find it.

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HAMMER: Ireland`s incredible new book "Real Solutions for Busy Moms" is in stores and online right now.

The first look at John Travolta`s new movie is next. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Tonight, we`ve got your SHOWBIZ first look at "The Taking of Pelham 1, 2, 3" which stars Denzel Washington and John Travolta. This is Travolta`s first role since the death of his son Jett back in January.

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UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Everybody out! Everyone on your feet! This side.

DENZEL WASHINGTON, ACTOR: Control center calling Pelham 1, 2, 3. Control center calling Pelham 1, 2, 3.

JOHN TRAVOLTA, ACTOR: Control center, do you read me?

WASHINGTON: Who is this?

TRAVOLTA: This is the man who is going to give this city a run for its money. Now, you tell me what is the going rate for a New York City hostage today? What do you think, a million apiece is too high?

WASHINGTON: Maybe I`m not the guy you should be talking to. I`m a civil service employee.

TRAVOLTA: What time have you got on your watch?

WASHINGTON: 2:13.

TRAVOLTA: You know, I`m going to start killing passengers. You don`t want innocent people dying, do you? You tell me. Life is simple now. You just have to do what I say.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Will somebody just do something!

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Are you sure you don`t have some sort of relationship with him?

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Can everybody hear me?

WASHINGTON: Every cop in the city is on the way.

TRAVOLTA: You`ve got five seconds.

WASHINGTON: OK.

TRAVOLTA: Five -

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: What`s he doing?

TRAVOLTA: Four, three.

WASHINGTON: You`ve got to believe me.

TRAVOLTA: Two, one.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Look out.

JAMES GANDOLFINI, ACTOR: Does this make you feel better, (INAUDIBLE)? Does it make everything OK, now?

WASHINGTON: No. But it`s a start.

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HAMMER: It`s good. James Gandolfini in there, too. "The Taking of Pelham 1, 2, 3" opens on June 12th. Well, that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thanks a lot for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.

ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. Take care.

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