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Octomom`s Stripper Shocker; Octomom`s 100-Day Report Card; Susan Boyle Versus Brangelina; Plane Idiots Scares the Hell Out of New York; Is the Skinny Model a Good Role Model?
Aired April 28, 2009 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, CNN HOST: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, the Octomom`s stripper shocker. Tonight, the Octomom`s brand-new revelations about her reported stripper past. Why she`s octo-furious and why this could all end up in court.
Plus, the Octomom`s first 100 days. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the Octomom 100-day report card.
Susan Boyle versus Brangelina. Tonight, is the YouTube singing sensation the biggest star in the world?
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PIERS MORGAN, JUDGE, "BRITAIN`S GOT TALENT": She`s already bigger than Brad, Angelina, Tom Cruise and the rest of them put together.
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HAMMER: But come on, Brangelina? Plus, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with your very first look at the lost Boyle audition.
Plus, plane idiots. The worst photo-op ever as one of President Obama`s jets scares the hell out of New York.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`d call this felony stupidity.
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HAMMER: Would someone get these guys a Hollywood publicist, please?
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer, broadcasting to night and every night from New York City. And tonight, the Octomom`s first 100 days of being an Octomom.
Tonight, octuplet mother Nadya Suleman is wrapping up her first 100 days of octo-wackiness with brand-new revelations about all those reports that she was a pre-octo stripper. And what she`s claiming could actually turn into a nasty court battle. We`ll have more on that coming up.
And all this caps what may be one of the wildest and wackiest octo- rides ever, from Nadya`s supposed obsession with Angelina Jolie to the crazy online reality show that has become her life. And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is now in a position to reveal that the Octomom`s first 100 days is making big news right now.
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(voice-over): It`s all anyone is talking about.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Marking President Obama`s first 100 days in office.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`ve really been having the festival of 100 days.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re about to mark his 100th day in office.
HAMMER: But just like President Obama`s first 100 days in office are a big deal, Octomom Nadya Suleman, is about to reach a similar milestone.
JO PIAZZA, ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST: Pretty soon marks the 100th day since Nadya Suleman brought those octuplets into the world.
HAMMER: May 5th is the big anniversary. And so far, Ben Hoffman of Current TV is calling her first 100-day reign as the Octomom an unqualified success.
BEN HOFFMAN, CURRENT TV: The Octomom has just been knockout perfect. Hasn`t slipped up yet. We`re looking for a disgusting train wreck and she hit every mark.
HAMMER: But an entertainment journalist Jo Piazza thinks Suleman`s term has been lacking so far.
PIAZZA: Octomom has been tripped up several times in the first 100 days.
HAMMER: So while everyone else is occupied with the first 100 days of the new president of the United States, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT brings you this analysis of the first 100 days of the Octomom of the United States. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you all eight of Suleman`s octuplets are now home from the hospital joining her six older kids.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How are the babies doing?
NADYA SULEMAN, OCTUPLET MOTHER: Really well, thank you. Excellent.
HAMMER: Suleman recently told ABC`s "Good Morning America" that she is handling it well.
SULEMAN: Every day, I`m taking it as it comes. And it`s actually a lot less stressful than I envisioned it.
HAMMER: Like the president, the new Octomom had a busy first 100 days. They both moved into new houses. But while got a new dog, she got a new tattoo, as we see in this new video from "RadarOnline.com."
And while President Obama has had trouble putting together a cabinet, thanks to some tax-paying issues, Suleman has had trouble getting childcare help. She took heat for hiring then firing a team of volunteer nurses that Dr. Phil helped arrange.
PIAZZA: I think that Nadya`s biggest mistake was not having a good vetting process for her staff.
HAMMER: But now Suleman tells "Good Morning America" she has around the clock teams to help her with her brood.
SULEMAN: First shifters may be (INAUDIBLE). And during the day, may be four. And at night, about three.
HAMMER: But as both wind up their first 100 days, there`s one area where Suleman has President Obama flat out beaten. He has yet to tame the country`s huge economic crisis. But Suleman`s new-found fame provided her with a stimulus package from all the bucks she`s getting for interviews and licensing arrangements.
PIAZZA: Obama says he`s going to clear up our country`s deficit within the next several years. But Octomom has done a really good job clearing up her own personal deficit.
ANDERSON: Take note, GM and Chrysler, Suleman recently told "Good Morning America" her future economic plans.
SULEMAN: I`m actually really, really excited about writing a book. I`m in the process of doing that.
HAMMER: A new book? Maybe Nadya first 100 days in octo-office may not have gone so badly for her after all.
HOFFMAN: Nadya Suleman gets an A-plus from me for the first 100 days. People don`t realize she`s a genius to sail your way to the top, to have too many kids and use that to become a celebrity - USA! USA!
HAMMER: So if there was anyone who doubted that after 100 days Octomom and her brood of 14 would be happy and well, the Octomom has issued an unmistakable response. Yes, we can.
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HAMMER: Wow. Who could ever have imagined that Nadya Suleman`s historic delivery of eight babies would turn from triumph to train wreck right before our eyes? It certainly has been one wild ride.
Joining me tonight from Hollywood, Leslie Marshall, host of her own syndicated radio show, "The Leslie Marshall Show." In New York is Jane Velez-Mitchell , host of "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL." You can watch her every weekday night - every night actually. You`re on seven days a week, Jane and we`re happy about that.
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thank you.
HAMMER: 7:00 p.m. Eastern right here on HLN. So, guys, as we look back at the first 100 days of octo-world, we have to remember the Octomom said she never ever wanted to do a reality show. Remember that?
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SULEMAN: No, that`s actually a lie. Maybe in the future, but that`s still something I would really strongly have to consider. I`ve always believed and I could change my mind when they`re older if the kids wanted to do it. But I personally believe it`s kind of a form of exploitation depending on how it`s done. Documentary - it`s different.
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HAMMER: Yes. And we`ve been seeing this online reality show, virtual one, courtesy of "Radar Online." Jane, when you think back to how this started out, people were so excited about her and fascinated by her. And then, we started to learn the truth. You could ever have imagined this would turn into the wildest, craziest soap opera on the planet?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s insane. You know, if you put all this in a Hollywood script, they wouldn`t buy it. They`d say this is too outlandish. What mother who has 14 kids at home including eight newborns would go out and get a tattoo?
You know, it just doesn`t make any sense. And that`s why it`s so fascinating. You have a biological oddity combined with a very kooky, kooky personality who loves attention and knows how to get it. And you have a recipe for a train wreck you cannot help but watch.
HAMMER: Yes, train wreck accompanied by so much chaos. As we look back on the first 100 octo-days, who can forget that wild media frenzy when the first two babies actually came home? This was right before one of the biggest Octomom scandals, of course, when she fired these free nurses that were provided by the group Angels in Waiting after they accused her of not being a good mom. And Dr. Phil stepped in. And this is when we learned the new octo-word by the way.
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SULEMAN: That`s a joke. All of that is beyond catastrophied (ph). I was in there as much as I could until I felt completely, like, rejected by them. And almost - I felt so like a stranger in my own home.
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HAMMER: Leslie, over you to. There have been so many disturbing "catastrophied" developments throughout this whole ordeal, throughout the 100 days. Is there one that sticks out with you the most?
LESLIE MARSHALL, HOST, "THE LESLIE MARSHALL SHOW": Actually, yes, and it`s not long after the rest of the babies came home. If you remember, she kept saying it`s in the best interest of the children. She cares only about the children. But move out of the way of the camera. I want all these strangers traipsing through with these medically fragile babies are in the nursery so you can get clear shot of me holding the babies for a few minutes.
But honestly putting those children at risk health-wise. That really sticks out in my mind because I know when my kids first came home, I was afraid to go outside because of germs. You know, I definitely was a germ- phobic. So that sticks out in mind.
And strangers - you know, they say there were people that they didn`t know who they were. There was no identification, just camera crews, et cetera, coming in and out.
HAMMER: Right.
MARSHALL: That truly sticks - everything sticks out in my mind. But that, more so.
HAMMER: Yes, it`s funny. When we think back to it, it sounds truly comical. But really, let`s remember, it was pretty scary and dangerous. And that was something we were talking about right here. One of the things I think that was the most striking since day one has been how everyone is saying how much Octomom herself looked like Angelina Jolie.
I mean take a look at that. Just this week, we saw her getting a tattoo, as Jane mentioned, in the same place on her body that Angelina has one. Listen to what Nadya said when she was asked about Angelina and being a celebrity.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are a big fan of Angelina?
SULEMAN: No, I`m not a fan of anybody (INAUDIBLE). I don`t put people on pedestals. I don`t like celebrities. Thank you. I`m not a celebrity.
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HAMMER: All right. Jane, now that first 100 days are on us, what do you think? Is there any chance in the world anybody is thinking this woman is not a celebrity?
VELEZ-MITCHELL She is the ultimate celebrity for the 21st century, A.J. We`ve moved beyond a time in society where only those who come out of the studio system or the networks can be stars.
Now, anybody with a camera can be a documentary filmmaker. And anybody with a wacky-enough personality can be a star. We`re in the YouTube generation, the YouTube world. And this woman really epitomizes everything that is bad and interesting about the new technology.
HAMMER: Well, here is my hope. And you know, we`re a few weeks away from Mother`s Day. Let`s just hope that the next 100 days go much better for her, but more importantly, for her children than the first 100 days. Leslie Marshall, Jane Velez-Mitchell, thank you both.
Now, we`ve already got an Octomom shocker for you for the next 100 days or I may be speaking too soon here. Tonight, the Octomom`s brand-new stripper revelations. She is furious about those reports that are floating around that she was, in fact, a stripper. In fact, she is so mad the whole thing may end up in court. You could imagine? That is coming up at the bottom of the hour here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Well tonight, there is another brand-new controversy involving a scary, skinny model. Look at this picture. This is actually a Miss Universe contestant, somebody who is supposed to be a role model for women everywhere. I`ve got to tell you, I think this is so shocking. What do you think? Is she beautiful? Is she totally unhealthy and is she sending a really, really bad message? The raging SHOWBIZ TONIGHT weight debate, next.
Also, is Susan Boyle a bigger story than Brangelina.
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MORGAN: She`s already bigger than Brad, Angelina, Tom Cruise and the rest of them put together. They can`t get near her in terms of attention in the world.
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HAMMER: Oh, come on. I mean, yes, Susan Boyle certainly is a big star. But bigger than Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie? Really?
HAMMER: Plus, we`ve got your first look at the lost Susan Boyle audition.
And did you see this? A couple who punch each other every day and they`re happily married. You`ve got to see it. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" Mexico premiere postponed due to swine flu. Father of Jamie Lynn Spears` daughter to be moved out of ICU after car crash.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
Tonight, the brand-new, big controversy over the model who some say is scary skinny. Now, take a look at this picture of a 19-year-old contestant of the Australian Miss Universe pageant. That picture of her super-skinny body - it just shocked a lot of people who said she has got to be anorexic.
But today, the super-skinny model spoke out for the very first time. And she insists that she does not suffer from an eating disorder.
Joining me from Hollywood is Roshumba Williams, a model and a lifestyle expert. Well, Roshumba, let`s take another look at this photo. It`s Stephanie Naumoska. She`s 5`11." She says she weighs 117 pounds. But by health standards, she`s classified as what they call severe thinness.
Now, she says she`s always been naturally thin. She actually claims she eats six meals a day. All right, Roshumba, I know you`ve lived in the modeling world.
ROSHUMBA WILLIAMS, MODEL AND LIFESTYLE EXPERT: Right.
HAMMER: And you`ve spent a lot of time around people like her. What`s your take on it?
WILLIAMS: Well, A.J., you know, I`ve worked for "Sports Illustrated" as a swimsuit model for years. And I`ve worked with everyone from Elle Macpherson to Heidi Klum to Marissa Miller, and I know what a healthy swimsuit body looks like.
So when I see Stephanie and she`s in this red string bikini and her bones are protruding, something is definitely wrong. She may not know it. She may have an eating disorder.
She`s only, what, 19 years old. But if you`re 5`11" and you`re around 110 pounds, something is definitely off. She looks malnourished. She may be anorexic. She may be bulimic. She may have something else going on and just not know it because she`s so young. How would she know?
HAMMER: Yes, maybe in denial. But she says she doesn`t have any kind of eating disorder. And now, the beauty contestant is telling her side of the story. In fact, she appeared on "Good Morning America" this morning and she told Diane Sawyer that she feels people actually unfairly judged her based on her appearance alone. Let`s look at that.
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STEPHANIE NAUMOSKA, MISS UNIVERSE CONTESTANT: I want to defend all the skinny girls out there, al the skinny men, all the celebrities, all the people out there who get, you know, criticized by their appearance. I don`t think that it`s fair because, you know, there are people out there who are naturally skinny. And, you know, naturally slim like myself. And I don`t think it`s fair that I was judged by the whole entire world based on a photo and on my appearance.
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HAMMER: Yes, Roshumba, do you buy that? Because she says, "skinny like me." But I don`t know. I don`t see how we can look at that and not be shocked.
WILLIAMS: Yes. A.J., I`m 5`11." My healthy weight is about 125 pounds. When I start dipping below that, I can actually feel it. So she may not necessarily know what a healthy weight is for her. And she may have - you know, she can look in the mirror and see this body and think that it`s absolutely perfect.
But I`ve been around for over a decade. I`ve written two books. And I know about anorexia and eating disorders. And there is something going on with this young lady that she`s just not fessing up to. But when it comes to - is she being attacked? Is she being unfairly judged in the media? She could be because we do live in a beauty-obsessed society.
And when it comes to being thin, if you`re too thin, you`re beat up. If you`re too big, you`re beat up. So it`s a little bit tough. And I think that if she is sick and if she is thin and she is anorexic that we should not attack her and judge her. We should try to get her help.
HAMMER: Yes.
WILLIAMS: But yes, I do believe that something is definitely wrong and she just is not facing up to it.
HAMMER: Yes, I`ve got to tell you, I just find no way to look at picture and think that everything is all right there and as it`s supposed to be.
WILLIAMS: And it`s sad. It`s sad. It`s sad. And I think the pageant director said she has the body type of a Macedonian which is supposed to be thin-boned, sort of long, lean, kind of more of an Asian-ish girl. But no, there is something more than that.
And the cool thing is now the entertainment industry and the fashion industry is stepping up and waving the red flag. So we should actually support her and be behind her and not beat her up.
HAMMER: Yes. And we`ll keep calling attention to it. I always appreciate your perspective. Roshumba Williams, thanks so much.
WILLIAMS: Thanks, A.J.
HAMMER: Well, the "Showbiz on Call" phone lines, as we move on, are still buzzing about Boyle, so much so that we`re now calling our "Showbiz on Call" operators busy Boyle bees. It`s true. Check out this call in to "Showbiz on Call" from Jen in Nevada who wishes Susan would cut an album right now.
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CALLER: Susan Boyle could do no wrong. She is the most refreshing thing. Yes, I would like her to get a makeover. I`d like her to be as beautiful as she can be. But you know what? Her voice is the most beautiful that I have ever heard. I think she`s fabulous and she`s real. Tell her to hurry and make an album. I want to buy it.
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HAMMER: Thanks, Jen. We also heard from Bonnie calling in to "Showbiz on Call" from Arkansas who thinks Boyle is a beauty inside and out.
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CALLER: I thought she gave an awesome presentation. And it came straight from her heart and her soul. She has a sound of past, present and future and a forever voice. A true beauty to behold.
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HAMMER: Thanks, Bonnie. Call us at "Showbiz on Call" and let us know what you think about this or anything. Showbiz on call phone lines open all the time at 1-888-SBT-BUZZ.
The Octomom - did she or didn`t she take off her clothes? Tonight, the Octomom`s brand-new revelations about her reported stripper past.
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SULEMAN: My friends talked me into entering this lingerie contest at a nightclub.
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HAMMER: I can tell you that the Octomom is just furious. In fact, she is so angry she may end up in court over this. I`ve got the Octomom`s stripper shocker. That`s coming up.
Also, Susan Boyle versus Brangelina. It is possible? Could Susan Boyle be a bigger star than Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie? Plus, I`ve got your very first look at the lost Boyle audition.
And I`ve got to tell you, I think this is the worst photo-op ever. The outrage over one of the president`s planes terrifying New York City. Would somebody call the White House and tell them they need a good Hollywood publicist? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: ABC in talks to renew TV sitcom "Scrubs" for the ninth season. Soccer star David Beckham to launch Adidas clothing line.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer.
Did you see this? I`ve got to say this could very well be the worst photo-op ever. And tonight, even Hollywood is outraged.
Now I`m talking about one of President Obama`s planes, a huge 747 buzzing over downtown Manhattan right near the World Trade Center site. This was for a White House photo shoot. But what were these guys thinking in a post-9/11 world not warning anybody about this?
The low-flying plane was accompanied by two F-16s so no surprise it sent frightened workers out into the streets and the outrage and panic sent the White House into major spin control. I`m thinking they might need a high-powered Hollywood publicist to fix this.
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FRAN TOWNSEND, FORMER HOMELAND SECURITY ADVISER: This is not necessary. If you needed pictures of Air Force One over a national icon, fly it over the Grand Canyon. It was crass insensitivity. And frankly, as I would say as a former prosecutor, I would call this felony stupidity.
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HAMMER: Yes, no kidding. President Obama, who didn`t know about the flight, did apologize and he said it was a big mistake. Now, the guy who gave the OK to do this, White House Military Office Director Louis Caldera says he is sorry, too. But that was not good enough for the women of "The View" this morning.
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JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Caldera - he should be fired, in my opinion because I think it was a very, very stupid thing.
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He`s saying he`s apologizing because it scared everybody. You know, bye.
ELISABETH HASSELBECK, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": This operation takes a picture of the Statue of Liberty and Air Force One is a complete failure. This is a plane flying low in New York City. You see people panicked. Who knows if they`re scapegoating someone right now either? This is -
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HAMMER: Like I said, worst photo-op ever.
Also new right now, the Speidi`s swine flu scare. "The Hill" stars, Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag - they call them Speidi - well, they just got married. And they headed to Mexico for a pre-honeymoon. She is shooting a music video there.
But the swine flu outbreak has them on lockdown. Listen to what Speidi told Ryan Seacrest on his KISS FM radio show this morning.
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RYAN SEACREST, RADIO HOST: How is it going?
SPENCER PRATT, "THE HILLS" STAR: Pig flu.
SEACREST: Well, have you noticed any precautions taken there in Mexico?
PRATT: We`re definitely wearing the facemasks everywhere we go.
SEACREST: Are you really?
PRATT: Oh, we`re not playing. I`m not trying to get pig flu.
SEACREST: Is there a state of panic there?
PRATT: We`re in isolation. We`re in actual hiding.
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HAMMER: Well, maybe that`s just as well.
HAMMER: Heidi added that they`re washing their hands all the time.
Now, the SHOWBIZ lineup. Here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
The brand-new Octomom`s stripper shocker. You`ve got to hear what she`s now saying about reports that she was a stripper.
Also, Susan Boyle versus Brangelina. Is this possible? Is the YouTube sensation really a bigger star now than Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie? Plus, the just uncovered lost Boyle audition tape.
And for the first time, Prince speaking out about his secret scary illness. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: Ted Turner to be the subject of major biopic, "Call Me Ted." Supreme Court rules government can fine broadcasters for curses on live TV.
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HAMMER: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Octomom`s stripper shocker, brand- new revelations about Octomom`s stripper past that`s got her fighting mad. Why she might end up in court.
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MORGAN: She`s already bigger than Brad, Angelina, Tom Cruise and the rest of them put together. They can`t get near her in terms of attention in the world.
HAMMER: Come on. Is Susan Boyle really bigger than Brad? Bigger than Angelina? Plus, new details about Susan`s big date and the lost audition tape you will not believe.
Also, a cage-fighting couple? First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes a smackdown in a cage?
Plus, more stories breaking from the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker."
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer, broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City.
Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s continuing coverage of the Octomom`s first 100 days. Tonight, the Octomom`s stripper outrage. Brand-new tonight, Octomom just raving mad about these reports that she used to be a stripper. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT bringing you Octomom`s revelations about her past and all of those reports that she used to take her clothes off for a living.
In fact, in a brand-new interview just out today, she claims she doesn`t even read the magazine that`s she says print the lies about her and that she barely knows anything about Angelina Jolie which is really fascinating considering she gives exclusive interviews to magazines like "Life & Style weekly" which is Angelina on the cover just about every week. Hello, earth to Octomom, are you kidding me?
But back to octo-reality for just a moment, because Nadya Suleman says that she is ready to sue the pants off the dude who claims she was a stripper. Get it? Sue the pants off?
Joining me tonight from Hollywood, Leslie Marshall, host of her own syndicated radio show, "The Leslie Marshall Show." In New York tonight is Jane Velez-Mitchell. Host of her own show, "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ- MITCHELL," every night right here on HLN.
All right. We have to begin with this brand-new Octomom denial of all denials that despite all those reports that have been floating around, she never, ever, ever, ever, ever worked in a strip club. In fact, in a brand- new interview with "Radar Online," Nadya Suleman says "In Touch Weekly" printed lies about her supposed stripper past. And she`s also shooting down reports that she is trying to look like Angelina Jolie. Let us now watch the octo-rant.
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SULEMAN: I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever worked even one day in a strip club. A month ago when they came out with the totally ludicrous and erroneous kind of lies that I wanted to look like - who? Her?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, there is a segment.
SULEMAN: Her?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, there is a segment in the same article.
SULEMAN: I have no interest in any celebrities at all. And I feel like a broken record saying this over. So this is the last time I`m ever going to repeat this. I do not look like this woman, nor I would want to look like this woman. No offense to her personally - I have reasons why I wouldn`t want to look like her. I don`t know who would.
But she is just a normal person. Like everyone else. Not going to say - I`m not going to be disparaging in any way because I think people need to leave her alone. They need to live him alone. They need to leave them alone. I don`t even know who they are. They need to leave her alone. They need to leave people alone.
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HAMMER: All right. I barely know where to begin here. But, Jane, are you with me here? I find it pretty hard to believe that she really wants to be left alone.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I don`t ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever believe anything that the Octomom says. And as for her suing "In Touch," I think that if she is right, this could be the case of the Octomom cries wolf, because there are so many times where what she has said isn`t true that now, if she proclaims herself to be, "I never stripped and this is the truth," who`s going to believe her?
Because she said she wasn`t interested in Angelina Jolie and sources said Angelina Jolie has been getting letters from her. And of course, she looks like Angelina Jolie.
So now, she`s saying, no, I did not use the stripper name Angelina. Who`s going to believe her?
HAMMER: I`m waiting for those pictures to surface once day, not saying that they will or that they even exist. But I`m waiting.
Leslie, what do you think? I mean, she clearly does not want to be left alone despite all of her never, ever, ever claims.
MARSHALL: Well, she does not want to be left alone. Jane, I love you, but you`ve had too many beers if you think she looks like Angelina Jolie. And I would love to look like Angelina Jolie when she says, "Who would like to?" And the fact she doesn`t know the magazine and she is holding the magazine -
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I don`t think she looks like her. She is trying to look like her.
MARSHALL: Yes, definitely - definitely trying to look like her - a little collagen in the lips there which we always do after having a baby, right? But it kills me. She obviously, A.J., Jane wants to stay in the spotlight. I think this is why she is being so ferocious in her attacks regarding the stripper issue.
But obviously, if she wasn`t a stripper, that definitely is a problem. And she may have a suit which keeps her in the spotlight.
HAMMER: Well, let`s talk about the attention she`s bringing to that. Because in this brand-new interview, the Octomom goes into the claims made about her by the owner of this strip club and a stripper who actually claims she works alongside Nadya or Angelina. Watch this.
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SULEMAN: I don`t read these things, OK? I try to avoid as much as I can. I turn around. And she said there was a really bad article in here. So, of course, I`m tempted. I open it up and I see this. And I look at this and I never seen these humans in my life.
And then, all of a sudden, it says "Secrets of Her Past Revealed." Then, it`s stating that according to this man, Gunner Reid(ph), who I`ve never met in my entire life. I never met any of these people. My supposed - he`s claiming to be a boss at the Spearmint Rhino - Star in Garter it`s now called. I never even encountered in person - I never met a stripper, any stripper, in my life. Not only I`ve never - I never worked with them. I`ve never met a stripper.
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HAMMER: All right. So there she is. She`s going on the record, ladies, to say she never met any of these humans, as she put it. Jane, this really was the best way for Octomom to have handled this, wasn`t it?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, she`s obviously bringing more attention to the whole issue of her being or not being a stripper by going into this and pointing out the magazine.
Remember, she`s pointing out herself. It`s not one person, it`s three people - limo driver, a woman who dances at a club, and a club manager who made these allegations. I have no independent confirmation of whether or not they`re true. But if she is so upset about it, why focus attention on it?
You know, for her to actually have a legitimate lawsuit because she is a public figure, she would have to prove actual malice, in other words, blatant, reckless disregard for the truth or something being published with the knowledge that it was false.
So that`s quite a conspiracy theory she`s digging up there. We`ll have to see how successful she is with it.
HAMMER: Yes. Well, let`s talk about the lawsuit for a moment and whether or not she`s going to go after these people. Because Octomom does make sure to let everybody know that she will, in fact, sue the man who claimed that she worked for him at this strip club. Watch this.
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SULEMAN: This man, you know, is really intelligent to have his picture there and his real name. So Mr. Gunner Reid(ph), you will be in the midst of a lawsuit, pending lawsuit. So thanks for putting your picture and your name there.
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HAMMER: Yes. And I`m thinking she`s thinking, "Thanks for keeping me in the headlines there." Now, Leslie, Jane thinks that this lawsuit might not turn out to be such a great thing for her. What`s your take on it? If it does turn out that she was not in fact a stripper, doesn`t she really have a case here?
MARSHALL: If she wasn`t a stripper, she certainly can have a case if it can be proved. I mean, Jane specifically pointed out rightly so, very accurately, the guidelines to slander or to libel lawsuits.
When we look at what`s happened here, when she said this guy even put his name in, you have to remember she was, in fact, claiming - or is in fact claiming to sue. I think that her attorney would advise her not to be saying this publicly because there`s an element of surprise, so to speak.
So I`m not sure how they`re going to get around it. Maybe there was somebody that looked like Nadya and had the same name as Nadya. Maybe she was there as a customer. Maybe she interviewed for a job. Maybe she has a bad memory.
But I do agree with Jane that a lot of threats that she`s made in the past have not come to fruition. Yet, making the threat keeps her in the spotlight. If, in fact, these people are making allegation that are false, she might have some legal recourse and obviously, cha-ching, cha-ching. Once again, it would keep her in the spotlight and keep her richer.
HAMMER: Right. But she always does tell the truth. You know, she says she doesn`t read these celebrity magazines. I don`t know about that.
MARSHALL: She is holding one.
HAMMER: She is just featured on the cover of "Life & Style" magazine earlier in the month with that eight-page exclusive. Jane, 10seconds. My head is going to explode. Just take it.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know, I think she`s enjoying this way too much, even as she claims they`re not telling the truth. She can`t suppress her smile. She`s loving every second of the attention. It`s so obvious.
HAMMER: Yes. She`s right there on the cover of "In Touch" now. Her picture in the corner with Brad Pitt right next to her. You know she`s loving that. Leslie Marshall, Jane Velez-Mitchell - now, in a statement to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "In Touch Weekly" does say that it stands by the reporting of this story.
All right. Octomom, obviously big celebrity. Susan Boyle, even bigger. Thank goodness. But is Susan the biggest star in the world? Bigger than Brad Pitt? Bigger than Angelina Jolie?
Plus, the long lost audition tape of Susan Boyle you won`t want to miss where she is singing and getting a big old kiss.
And one of the most private stars in the world reveals his private pain - Prince opening up for the first time about his secret illness.
And why are this husband-and-wife taking their marriage to the ring? The fascinating story of a cage-fighting couple with a marriage that really packs a punch.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s really good therapy because our relationship is even better.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) marriage counselor and all that. We just put the gloves and the head gear on, the shin pad on and set time at five minutes. Then we go at it.
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HAMMER: This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN. Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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HAMMER: Hey, did you see this? Susan Boyle says she`s never been kissed, right? Well, why is a 33-year-old Susan getting a big old smack-a- roo in this video. Looks like Boyle has got a lot of explaining to do after one of her lost auditions for a TV show is uncovered.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
Tonight, Susan Boyle`s lost audition tape. Did you see this? In a brand-new video uncovered by the U.K.`s "Daily Record" - there she is at 33. Susan Boyle singing her heart out at an audition for the British TV show "My Kind of People." This was back in 1995.
And she even gets kissed. Look at her. Well, the host comedian Michael Barrymore playfully tried to throw her off, but Susan being the true professional that she is, does not miss a beat while She was singing a rendition of "I don`t Know How to Love Him." Watch this.
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There it is. I`m flabbergasted. A Susan Boyle smooch caught on tape. Well, certainly, people want to know everything about superstar Susan`s past. But it`s her future that Piers Morgan is concerned about. He, of course, is the judge on both "Britain`s Got Talent" and "America`s Got Talent."
And in a brand-new interview, Piers revealed why he thinks Susan is the biggest star in the world, even bigger, he says, than Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie and Tom Cruise combined.
Well, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT and CNN entertainment producer J.D. Cargill sat down with Piers who is also dishing on his top secret romantic plans for a star date with Susan. All right, J.D., let us know, did Piers kiss and tell here?
J.D. CARGILL, PRODUCER, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT/CNN ENTERTAINMENT: Well, A.J., Piers refused to kiss and tell about rumors that he may have kissed Susan. But he did tell me that Susan is in for a night to remember and he says their upcoming date is nothing she could have dreamed a dream of.
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MORGAN: I`m taking Susan out for dinner because she gave a great interview after she performed on "Britain`s Got Talent" where she said that she - while she quite liked Simon Cowell, she much preferred me and fancied me more. Now, that immediately, as you can imagine, endeared her to me enormously. So I thought any way I could reciprocate was to take her out to dinner in London which I`ll be doing.
CARGILL: Really?
MORGAN: Yes. She accepted.
CARGILL: Do you know where you`ll take her?
MORGAN: I`ve got a few little places in mind, a few of my favorite hot spots, you know, some romantic candles and red roses and champagne.
CARGILL: I envision the scene like from "Pretty Woman" where you send over a magnificent box and out of it she pulls out a gown.
MORGAN: Exactly.
CARGILL: What kind of dress will you send Susan Boyle?
MORGAN: Well, I think I`ll leave that entirely to the lady. (INAUDIBLE) I want her to sing for me.
CARGILL: Yes?
MORGAN: I mean, can you imagine in the restaurant, "I Dreamed a Dream"? It would be fantastic.
CARGILL: What happens next for her? I mean, I don`t really know how this works because she`s huge. Everybody knows her name.
MORGAN: Someone said to me, you know, what (INAUDIBLE) going to be? I said, well, most people would literally die for the hundred million hits on YouTube. She`s done that in a week. So she is already bigger than Brad, Angelina, Tom Cruise and the rest of them put together. They can`t get near her in term of attention in the world.
So Susan Boyle`s sky is boundless. She can do movies. She can do TV. She can do albums. She can do it all. Why not? Hundred million people love her.
CARGILL: Do you think as everybody has been asking you about - is that Shaheen.
MORGAN: Yes.
CARGILL: Is that his name?
MORGAN: Yes.
CARGILL: I mean, does he have a chance?
MORGAN: Shaheen has a great chance. He`s got an amazing voice. When he sang the second song, the Michael Jackson one, it was really great, great performance, as a girl along tomorrow in Britain called Hollie, a little 10-year-old singer. She`s like Shirley Temple.
So we are producing on the British side some amazing acts this season. And I`m in the middle of judging the auditions for the American show. And we`ve got some amazing stuff there, too. I think we`re beginning to see now a bit of a competition.
This is like the talent show version of the Ryder Cup - Britain versus America. Susan Boyle has laid down the challenge to the whole of America. Beat that.
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CARGILL: Sounds like a challenge to me, A.J. What do you think?
HAMMER: Yes, I think he`s right. I mean, obviously Susan has sparked this phenomenon like none we`ve ever seen before. But J.D., does Piers really think Susan`s bigger than Brad and Angelina? I mean, is he kidding or is he serious there?
CARGILL: You know, honestly, talking to Piers, you`d think Susan is bigger than Obama. I mean, there is nothing she can`t do. She should run for the queen of England. Can they vote for that over there?
HAMMER: I don`t think that`s how that works. Listen, we`ve got to talk about the controversy that everyone is talking about, J.D. Of course, people fell in love with Susan because, you know, she`s a real person, not some kind of pretty cookie-cutter celebrity.
So now, she`s had this makeover. And quite frankly, a lot of people are outraged that she may very well have given up that quality that made her so appealing. So what did Piers tell you about all the fuss made over the makeover?
CARGILL: You know what he told me is that any woman in Susan`s position, whether she was known for being an ugly duckling or look like Angelina Jolie would go out and get a makeover if she was going to be seen by millions of people. I mean, A.J., what do you think I was doing 15 minutes ago?
HAMMER: You were getting a makeover for yourself.
CARGILL: I was. I even bought this jacket.
HAMMER: Your hair was a different color the last time I saw you, J.D.
CARGILL: That`s gray. That`s gray.
HAMMER: I think - you know what? Is not as if she went out and got a new haircut or lipo or anything like that. I think she`s fine. J.D. Cargill, thanks, man. Good job.
CARGILL: Thanks, A.J.
HAMMER: All right. We`ve been asking you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Susan Boyle: Is she a bigger star than Brangelina?" What do you think? Let us know at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight or E-mail showbiztonight@cnn.com.
Well, tonight, Prince reveals his secret illness. In a brand-new emotional interview, Prince reveals for the very first time that he was born with a neurological condition, epilepsy. The 50-year-old singer appeared on PBS` "Tavis Smiley Show" and he revealed how the illness affected his parents, his childhood and how he learned to play it down by playing himself up.
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PRINCE, MUSICIAN: I used to have seizures when I was young. And my mother and father didn`t know what to do or how to handle it. But they did the best they could with what little they had.
And my mother told me one day I walked in to her and said, "Mom, I`m not going to be sick anymore.:" And she said, "Why?" And I said, "Because an angel told me so." Now, I don`t remember saying it. That`s just what she told me.
And from that point that point on, I`ve been having to deal with a lot of things, getting teased a lot in school. And you know, early in my career, I tried to compensate for that by being as flashy as I could and as noisy as I could.
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HAMMER: And it`s just amazing how that has worked out. Prince`s latest album is called "Lotus Flower." It`s in the stores now.
All right. A lot of married couples fight, right? Some couples argue, others get marriage counseling. But cage-fighting? Well, this couple - they punch each other in the name of love.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s really good therapy because our relationship is even better.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) marriage counselor and all that. We just put the gloves and the head gear on, the shin pad on and set time at five minutes. Then we go at it.
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HAMMER: They go at it. And why not? A couple that cage fights together stays together, right? The fascinating story of the cage-fighting couple that you don`t want to miss on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: DVD sales have dropped 14 percent since same time last year. Michael Douglas in "serious discussions" for "Wall Street" movie sequel.
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HAMMER: Thank you, Charles, the cage-fighting Wagman (ph). Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer on in New York.
I`ve been waiting for this all hour. Did you see this? You know that saying, couples who play together stay together? Well, there is one couple that is certainly taking that message to the extreme. They have decided that punching each other is actually good for their marriage.
Yes. Now, don`t worry - they are both trained cage fighters and nothing makes them happier than punching their problems away. Imagine what happens when they`re really mad at each other.
Here`s KPLR St. Louis` Kurt LaBelle for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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KURT LABELLE, KPLR CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Adame Dunnavant found his passion for fighting from his wrestling roots at Granite City High School.
ADAME DUNNAVANT, WRESTLER: Like most fighters, you know you`re missing something when you quit wrestling. So I figured this is something I wanted to do.
LABELLE: While taking aerobic kickboxing classes, his wife, Lori, decided to throw her hat in the ring - excuse the pun.
LORI DUNNAVANT, WIFE OF ADAME DUNNAVANT: Because I like to hit people. Honestly, I like to do it, and it is fun and it is nerve racking. It`s everything all at once.
LABELLE: And now, you have a married couple from Granite City that has totaled nine wins and one championship belt between them, driving each other to become better fighters at the CMMA gym.
STEVE KNOGL, ADAME AND LORI`S TRAINER: They wound up being really good with each other. They push each other extremely hard almost to the point where you think that maybe they`re going to get into it with each other a little bit, but it never happens.
A. DUNNAVANT: We`re pretty competitive with each other.
L. DUNNAVANT: Yes, we`re competitive.
LABELLE: When it comes to sparring together, not a single punch or trash talk is held back.
L. DUNNAVANT: I can definitely talk some trash.
LABELLE (on camera): Will you give it to her when (INAUDIBLE).
L. DUNNAVANT: oh, yes.
A. DUNNAVANT: Oh, no problem there.
KNOGL: If one of them fades during a real hard exercise, the other one will do a little trash talk and get them a little mad and then you`ll see them come back up with the intensity level.
LABELLE (voice-over): As far as Lori and Adame are concerned, this full contact union is more than healthy.
A. DUNNAVANT: I`ll tell you, you can`t get no better therapy than that.
L. DUNNAVANT: It`s really good therapy because our relationship is even better.
A. DUNNAVANT: (INAUDIBLE) marriage counselor and all that. We just put the gloves and the head gear on, the shin pad on and set time at five minutes. Then we go at it.
LABELLE: Now, if only they could just get used to watching their spouse fight with someone else.
A. DUNNAVANT: The (INAUDIBLE). I can`t watch.
L. DUNNAVANT: It`s like I`m in there. It`s worse than being in there. It is really tough to watch him fight and I just want him to win.
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HAMMER: That was KPLR`s Kurt LaBelle for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. OK. So on Monday, we asked to you vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - this was it - "Susan Boyle: Is the YouTube singing sensation still an inspiration to you? Sixty-three percent said yes; 37 percent said no.
And I think she is still very inspirational. That`s it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. You can always catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on the 11:00s - 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific, and in the morning at 11:00 a.m. Eastern here on HLN.
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