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Nancy Grace
Murdered Model Identified Through Breast Implants
Aired August 21, 2009 - 20:00 ET
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. Live to LA, a quiet apartment community reeling after a suitcase discovered in the communal dumpster opened to reveal a female body, the mystery as to the identity goes unsolved for days, as well as how she came to be murdered, then thrown away like trash. We confirm the body folded inside that suitcase is 28- year-old swimsuit model Jasmine Fiore.
Tonight, as details emerge, the murder turns even more heinous, Fiore brutally beaten, her teeth pulled out of her head, her fingers removed to conceal identity. How ID the body? Serial numbers on Fiore`s breast implants, her body that traumatized. And in a bizarre twist, a reality TV star wanted in connection for the murder.
Bombshell tonight. While California investigators announce an arrest warrant for reality TV star Ryan Jenkins, his luxury BMW and boat trailer found abandoned on the U.S.-Canadian border. In another stunning development, Jenkins takes the Coast Guard on a high-speed chase, escaping the U.S. by speedboat. We uncover Jenkins`s history of violence, a pattern of abusing women.
With each passing hour, we piece together a timeline leading up to Fiore`s murder, as stunning photos surface of Fiore and Jenkins living it up at a luxury Vegas hotel, seemingly in love, just before Fiore`s brutal murder. We now know Jenkins has a pilot`s license. He eluded U.S. police, Canadian Mounties. And to him, money is no object. Where he is tonight, anyone`s guess.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We now have a warrant for the arrest of Ryan Alexander Jenkins for the murder of Jasmine.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A reality TV contestant on the run, now charged with the gruesome killing of a swimsuit model. The mutilated body of 28- year-old Jasmine Fiore was found stuffed in a suitcase in a trash bin.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your question was about mutilation? The fingers and teeth were removed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) press conference (INAUDIBLE) I don`t think anybody was prepared to hear that. But you can hear the gasping in the background, the family members crying.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) what to do.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This person obviously didn`t want her to be identified or identified quickly.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police say the prime suspect is a Canadian, Ryan Alexander Jenkins.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jenkins is believed to have a driven a thousand miles to northern Washington state and apparently took a boat to a peninsula on the border, Point Roberts, Washington, where he could merely walk into Canadian territory.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He needs to understand that he`s now officially wanted. We don`t stop looking for him. There will be no stone unturned, and we will look under every rock for him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please understand who you`re helping leave this country. And we ask for your support to bring Ryan to custody.
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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Breaking news tonight. Reality TV star wanted for murder. After leading the Coast Guard on a high-speed boat chase, a $10 million arrest warrant out for the alleged killer of 28-year-old model Jasmine Fiore.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Brian Jenkins is an animal.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Major new development in the case of a murdered swimsuit, Jasmine Fiore. Her body was found stuffed into a suitcase. Authorities in California believe she was strangled to death.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We now have a warrant for the arrest of Ryan Alexander Jenkins.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What he has done to Jasmine is unspeakable.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tonight, they say this man did it. Right now, police are looking for him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In another disturbing twist, police say Fiore`s teeth and fingers had been removed, presumably to make it difficult, if not impossible, for an ID to be made.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Take off her fingers so she has no fingerprints. Take off her teeth so you can`t get the dental records. Put the body in the suitcase.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police believe that Ryan Jenkins may have actually fled to his native Canada on foot, and they`re warning he may be armed and dangerous.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He files a missing persons report, and then he drives a thousand miles to Canada?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They say they found his vehicle. Then they say they found his boat that was registered to him. But one other piece of information there -- there was are port this morning that one of his relatives was seen dropping off that boat in the area.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anybody that assists him, helps him in any way, is also subject to being charged as aiding and abetting and harboring a fugitive.
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GRACE: Straight out to Jon Baird with KNX 1070. Jon, it cannot get any more bizarre than it already has. What can you tell me about a high- speed boat chase? In all the years I`ve prosecuted and covered cases, I have never heard -- never once heard of someone actually managing to elude the Coast Guard in a high-speed boat chase.
JON BAIRD, KNX 1070: Nancy, to be honest with you, the information in this story is changing so fast, I -- I just learned of the high-speed boat chase myself. We know that he took the boat across the peninsula. We know he was spotted in that marina. And they`re saying that they know he`s in Canada. But this is the first I`ve also heard about this boat chase...
GRACE: It`s incredible!
BAIRD: ... with the Coast Guard.
GRACE: Out to...
BAIRD: It is incredible.
GRACE: ... Tony Rackauckus with the Orange County district attorney`s office. Tony, in all of the years you have been in law enforcement, have you ever heard of someone managing to outrun the Coast Guard in a high- speed boat chase?
TONY RACKAUCKUS, ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY: No, I haven`t -- I haven`t seen that. It`s -- that, of course, is very unusual. And you know, he had abandoned his boat. He got it to shore. He abandoned his boat. And you know, and he fled on foot after that and he hasn`t been seen since. So this is a very unusual case. But you know, he`ll turn up and we`ll get him pretty soon.
GRACE: You`re seeing a map now of the Canadian border, Jenkins allegedly on the run. Explain to me, Jon Baird, how he did it.
BAIRD: How he took off. Are you talking about the timeline?
GRACE: Yes.
BAIRD: Basically, they were -- they went to San Diego Thursday night, supposedly checked into this upscale hotel. There are reports they have some pretty -- a pretty good blow-out fight that night at the Hilton. He checked out the next morning...
GRACE: Over what? A fight over what?
BAIRD: My understanding from the reports I`m seeing is that he is just very jealous, and it has to do with other men. But basically, they -- the report I saw said they went back to the hotel, continued their argument. Then the next morning, he took off. Friday -- he filed a missing persons report on Saturday night. He said the last time he had seen her was Friday afternoon when she dropped him off at their apartment in LA. So he`s saying they drove back to LA, she dropped him off, went to run errands. And then on Saturday night, he goes in to file the missing persons report and disappears. The body, though, had been found Saturday morning, and obviously, they couldn`t identify it right away because of the fingers and teeth missing.
GRACE: So that is in direct contradiction to his story because he`s saying he`s -- he was with her that afternoon and she went to go get her nails done, but her body had been found that morning.
I want to go out to Dr. Howard Oliver, former deputy medical examiner, forensic pathologist, joining us out of LA. Everyone, we are taking your calls live. You`re taking a look at reality TV star Ryan Alexander Jenkins, age 32, and now deceased model Jasmine Fiore. He is on the run. We know he`s got a pilot`s license. We know he`s already eluded police by high-speed boat chase. We believe he`s left the country. Money is no object to this guy. Where he is is anybody`s guess.
Back to you, Dr. Oliver. In all the years I prosecuted murders and covered stories, I have never heard of a someone`s body being identified by a serial number on a breast implant. Have you?
DR. HOWARD OLIVER, FORMER DEPUTY MEDICAL EXAMINER, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: I`ve heard of bodies being identified on medical devices, such as a pacemaker or hip emplacements. It is -- and I have heard of instances where people were identified by implants in their breasts.
GRACE: You have heard of that before?
OLIVER: Yes, I have.
GRACE: I have never seen it. To you, Sheryl McCollum, crime analyst and the director of the cold case squad, Pine Lake PD. That`s a new one on me.
SHERYL MCCOLLUM, CRIME ANALYST: That`s a new one on me, Nancy. I`ve never heard it ever.
GRACE: You know, another thing. To Dr. Leslie Austin, psychotherapist. I`ve had it up to about right here with people on air, analysts, analyzing her like she`s a piece of trash, just like he allegedly left her, because of her occupation. This was not a hooker. This was not a stripper. This was a young lady just 28 years old who was a model, a swimsuit model. She had gone on to get her real estate license, trying to develop a career as a personal trainer. Why is everyone focusing on the victim, smearing her in the mud like she did something wrong? Why is that?
LESLIE AUSTIN, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: I`m sure I don`t know because it`s very easy for people to say, Well, why is she with him if he`s so bad? But these guys are very charismatic. I hold him accountable and not her for this heinous crime.
By the way, I`d check plastic surgeons, also. I wouldn`t put anything past him in his attempt...
GRACE: Out to the lines...
AUSTIN: ... to elude...
GRACE: Tina in Mississippi. Hello, Tina.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, hi, Nancy. How are you tonight?
GRACE: I`m good, dear. What`s your question?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Thank you. I just have two quick questions. First of all, number one, just say that they find him in Canada or even some other country. Can he be tried here in the U.S.?
GRACE: If he is extradited, Tina. Now, the problem with Canada, if they get a whiff of the word "death penalty," they very likely will not extradite. That`s a problem. It depends on where he goes.
Now, back to you, to Stacy Butler, reporter with CNN affiliate KCAL. What can you tell me about daddy owning, apparently, an enclave, a resort enclave in Honduras?
STACY BUTLER, KCAL: That`s what we`ve heard, that he has a very rich father, and it`s possible that he could be there. Although I just spoke with a bounty hunter on the phone who`s actively looking for him tonight. He says all leads, Nancy, lead to Canada, and that`s where they`re focusing all of their efforts right now.
GRACE: And you know -- let`s unleash the lawyers, Gloria Allred, Doug Burns, Bradford Cohen. Gloria, certainly, the Canadian police have put a tap on his parents` and his family and friends` phone up in there in -- up in Canada, right?
GLORIA ALLRED, VICTIMS` RIGHTS ADVOCATE: Well, there`s no question that they would be actively involved in looking for him.
GRACE: And what about it, Bradford?
BRADFORD COHEN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I would think that that -- the first place that you go is you stake out their house. You stake out their phone. You tap his cell phone. I`m sure they`re going to check if it`s been bounced off any -- any towers in the area. I mean, that`s just rudimentary.
GRACE: And Doug Burns, what`s to stop him from going to an FBO, a fixed base operator, a private airstrip, and just taking off for Honduras?
DOUG BURNS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: No, I heard you say that earlier. The fact that he`s a pilot, has a pilot license, makes him a little tougher. But they`re going to track him down. You`ll see.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your question was about mutilation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. We`re prepared to answer that question at this time. Yes, the fingers and teeth were removed.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Investigators say Jenkins was spotted in Whatcom County, Washington, just south of his native Canada.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is our belief that the suspect has crossed the border into Canada, and we are currently working with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in our attempts to locate him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: His black BMW hauling a boat was abandoned in the Blaine marina near Port Roberts. The sister towns sit on a peninsula. They are part of the U.S., but only accessible from British Columbia. Jenkins is wanted in connection with the murder of Jasmine Fiore. The model`s body was found Saturday in a suitcase left in a dumpster in Buena Park. She`d recently moved to LA from Las Vegas, where court records show Jenkins was charged with domestic violence for hitting Fiore in the arm earlier this year. Jenkins also previously served 15 months probation for a 2007 assault on a woman in Canada.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s been in two different instances with two girls, one being Jasmine -- he has a complaint against him in Las Vegas for hitting Jasmine with his fist in the arm. He`s also been convicted in Canada -- this is two years ago -- for an ex-girlfriend, for attacking her and -- and with battery, and this charge, he actually had to do domestic violence counseling and sex addiction therapy...
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GRACE: Straight out to Sergeant Duncan Pound with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. He`s joining us from Vancouver. Sergeant, thank you for being with us. Sergeant, I understand that many authorities believe he is hiding in the metro Vancouver area. Why do they believe that?
SGT. DUNCAN POUND, ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE (via telephone): Well, at this point, I guess, Nancy, some of the original indicators were that he might be attempting to enter Canada. At this point, we haven`t confirmed that he is in Canada, but we`re obviously not taking any chances and ordering a thorough investigation to figure out if he is here.
GRACE: Have you received tips from the public?
POUND: We have received a relatively minor number of tips from the public. Obviously, there`s been a lot of media attention, and we do get calls with people that they think look like him. And we follow those up, and there`s been nothing that`s corroborated that he is here in Canada at this time.
GRACE: With me, Sergeant Duncan Pound with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Sergeant, I understand that he has a pilot`s license. How do you prevent him from going to an FBO, a fixed base operator, a private air strip, and taking off? Because there`s very little safeguards. You don`t even have to show ID to hop on one of those planes.
POUND: Absolutely, that`s a challenge. One of the things we`re trying to do is make sure we`re very proactive with the media, getting all the information out there so that we can do community-based policing where the community can assist us in locating a person.
GRACE: Sergeant Pound, where did he get his pilot`s license? Because I`m wondering if he wouldn`t try to go back somewhere familiar to escape the country.
POUND: That`s a good point, Nancy. And certainly, we do have a bunch of things that we`re doing in our investigation. We have a lot of people on the ground working on things. At this point, obviously, we don`t want to necessarily tip our hands as to where we`re looking or how we`re looking just because we don`t want the information to get back to the wrong people.
GRACE: What type of operation are you -- do you have in place to try to locate him?
POUND: The Royal Canadian Mounted Police Border Integrity Program has a command post here in the lower mainland of the Vancouver area. We`ve disseminated the information to all the surrounding detachments and municipal police forces. We`ve partnered up with the Canada Border Services Agency. We`re liaising very closely with the U.S. Marshals. So we have an extensive network right now. And we have -- based on information provided by the U.S. authorities, I can tell you that there is now a provisional arrest warrant for Mr. Jenkins here in Canada.
GRACE: What is a "provisional arrest warrant"? What is that?
POUND: That`s just -- that`s the warrant that would signal the start of an extradition process.
GRACE: Oh, I see.
POUND: If he were to be located in Canada, that`s -- there`s then an extradition process...
GRACE: OK.
POUND: ... where the Canadian courts would rule on whether or not he would be extradited.
GRACE: With me, Sergeant Duncan Pound from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
Right now, I`m being joined by Carolyn Jarvis with Global National Report from CNN affiliate Global News. She`s there at the Point Roberts border crossing. Carolyn, thank you for being with us. Carolyn...
CAROLYN JARVIS, GLOBAL NEWS: Oh, my pleasure. Thanks, Nancy.
GRACE: What can you tell me -- was there an alert posted there at the border crossing where we believe he entered into Canada?
JARVIS: Not that we`re aware of. In the media, we received word that there were suspicions (INAUDIBLE) authorities that there was a chance Ryan Jenkins had entered on foot. Now, this is a very interesting border crossing because it`s a very interesting part of the country. Point Roberts right behind me here -- that`s Washington state. Right now, I`m standing in the province of British Columbia, Canada. And although a lot of people are lined up right now to get across, getting across the actual border is easier than you might thing. And we`ll probably get to those details in just a few minutes, Nancy.
GRACE: We are live there at the Canadian-U.S. border, there at Point Roberts crossing. Is that where this man, wanted for the murder of U.S. swimsuit model Jasmine Fiore, made off, eluding the Coast Guard on a high- speed boat chase?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is the number one most wanted guy in the world right now. He`s going to have a really, really tough time unless he`s just socked away in the Canadian mounts somewhere. He`s going to be found.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ryan Jenkins -- he obviously is wanted, armed and dangerous.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was information that he`s possibly armed with a handgun. Again, as we ask the public`s help both in Canada and the United States, please use caution. We want our brothers and sisters, both citizens and law enforcement professionals, to be safe when they take him into custody. So we have reason to believe that he is armed with a handgun.
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GRACE: He doesn`t just have a pilot`s license. He was actually an instructor at Calgary Flight Training Center. We know that for a fact that would allow him to fly great distances in a plane, for instance, like a Cessna.
I want to go to you, Sheryl McCollum, crime analyst and director of the cold case squad, Pine Lake PD. What about her car?
MCCOLLUM: Her car, Nancy, is a big piece of this puzzle. Her car could have trace evidence. Her car could have her blood in it that came off of him. I believe that her car is part of the staging process for him. He dumped that car somewhere to make, you know, police believe that she was kidnapped.
GRACE: Out to the lines. Kathy in West Virginia. Hi, Kathy.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. How are you?
GRACE: I`m good, dear. What`s your question?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was a fan of "Megan Wants a Millionaire," and I -- and when I saw his picture, it absolutely floored me. One thing that I remember is, in his first interactions that they showed with Megan, Ryan made it clear that he could not work in the U.S. and that he was interested in getting a Green Card. Do you think maybe that could have been a motive for maybe -- maybe Jasmine refused to go with that plan?
GRACE: That`s a great question. What about it? To you, Stacy Butler.
BUTLER: Well, it`s hard to say if that had anything to do with it. There`s a couple things I want to address, Nancy. One, we`ve talked a lot about he`s armed and dangerous. Why do we know that? There is word that that missing handgun may have belonged to Jasmine Fiore. She is a registered gun owner. Police apparently searched her apartment, and the information we have is they were not able to recover it. That`s one piece.
Another thing we`re talking about -- 3,300 miles of open border across Canada. So if he files a flight plan, he`s going to go on the radar. Does he want to do that?
GRACE: Of course, that flight plan could be completely opposite of where he actually flies.
When we get back, we`re going back to the U.S.-Canadian border. Standing by, Carolyn Jarvis with CNN Global News.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jasmine was a -- was a beautiful person. She was a very caring individual. She loved her family and friends.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Murder charges have been filed in the brutal death of 28-year-old swimsuit model Jasmine Fiore.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We now have a warrant for the arrest of Ryan Alexander Jenkins for the murder of Jasmine.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police in California say the suspect, Jenkins, when to such gruesome extremes to stall authorities from identifying the body he actually removed her teeth and fingers. She was identified using the serial number from her breast implants. Her family says this guy is an animal.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Obviously, he did not want to be IDed. Could you imagine smashing a person`s teeth out and cutting off their fingers? This guy had no feelings for her other than rage.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One of the questions law enforcement might be seeking to answer is, did he do this to before? This is a planned execution of a woman. I`m sure they`re looking in their files to see if there are any unsolved murders in that area.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There is no such thing as a crime of passion. There is only a crime of what you`re willing to do, should the opportunity arise. This guy is a psychopath and when this little possession got away from him he wanted to do what he wanted to do to her.
GRACE: Here`s my question right now, out to you, Jon Baird, with KNX 1070, why do I keep seeing photos of him without a shirt on? What`s that?
BAIRD: I don`t know. I think was his whole image thing.
GRACE: What, did he want to be a model?
BAIRD: Maybe so. Maybe it`s the whole image thing. To be honest with you, when I first saw this case, the first thing I thought of was the Scott Peterson case. But in any event, because women describe him as good looking and charming.
GRACE: I mean, how many guys do you know? I`m just throwing this out, Jon Baird, that has a I guess you`d say head shot from the belt up, without your clothes on? I mean, I don`t know, Jon, you`re in the TV business, but I`m guess you`re headshots don`t include you from the belt up without your clothes on?
BAIRD: No, they don`t.
GRACE: I guess not.
BAIRD: That`s what it looks like. It looks like modeling photos. So maybe, that`s where he wanted to go.
GRACE: That`s a whole `nother can of worms.
All right. There he is everybody. Just trying to focus on the face if you can. Ryan Alexander Jenkins, 32, daddy`s got loads of money. He`s got a pilot`s license. And access to go wherever he wants to. And remember, once you get on that little Cessna, that you rent, you can veer off your chartered plan. You don`t have to fly where you say you`re going. What are they going to do about it? Once you are out of U.S.-Canadian air space, you`re on your own.
I want to go back to the U.S.-Canadian border. Standing by, Carolyn Jarvis, with the "Global National Report" from CNN affiliate, Global News.
Carolyn, walk me through how this may have happened. I`m already learning from you that there was no posting up. There was no alert. Nothing at the U.S.-Canadian border.
CAROLYN JARVIS, GLOBAL NATIONAL REPORT: Yes.
GRACE: As this woman means absolutely nothing. It`s like they invite him. Please, come hide in Canada.
JARVIS: OK, there is no invitation to come to Canada. Let`s be clear. And the welcome mat certainly is now out by Canadian authorities. They are looking for him high and low. But getting into Canada from this point in the United States is pretty easy if you`re determined to do it. In fact, even if you`re not, for that matter.
Today, we found a couple just at a local cafe that took us down to an old trail that was well used, weaved behind a row of homes in a subdivision. All we saw was a warning sign. The warning sign says you`re about to enter the United States of America. And poof - you`re there. It`s as easy as that. Or, heck, if you want to walk across the beach you can do that. You can row a boat across the water and get there.
It`s interesting Nancy, because you remember, back in June 2009, this year, we just implemented all these strict enforcement regulations, the enhanced driver`s license, everything to beef up security across the this international divide, and yet there is not even a chain-link fence here to stop anybody from entering. That`s not to say a chain link fence is going to do it. I`m just saying there is not physical barrier. In fact, this wood pylon, I`m standing on right now, is it. The traffic is going through. There is nothing beyond this to outline, to delineate, where Canada stops and the U.S. begins.
GRACE: So, I guess, Carolyn Jarvis, everybody is on the honor system. Including alleged killer Ryan Alexander Jenkins, a man that U.S. police say ripped the teeth out of this woman`s head, removed - I assume, cut off -her fingers so she could not be identified. Folded her body up in a suitcase and threw her in a communal dumpster.
OK, back to you, Carolyn, explain to me. He leads the U.S. Coast Guard on a high-speed chase. We know that he was -his car and his empty boat trailer, found at Point Roberts, the border crossing. How, just logically speaking, Carolyn, how would he have done it. Where would he have gone from there?
JARVIS: Oh, and he can literally just drop his boat off at the marina, and he can walk wherever he wants. He can walk up through the subdivision. It`s just a row of homes here. This is a quiet community, Nancy. There`s about 1,500 some odd residents who stay here year-round and then it just booms in the summer months, because it is a beautiful ocean- side resort community. There`s about 5,000 people here through the summer. He can just walk up, grab a latte, and cross through any of the regents (ph) he wants. Meaning he can walk through the bushes there, the street called Zero Avenue. The back of their homes literally backs onto a street that is the United States. So, if you can walk through somebody`s backyard, and you`re in Canada.
A woman said to me today, in a cafe, he could be in my garden shed. I mean, that`s the fear. A lot of people who live in this community of Tsawwassen, that borders onto Point Roberts, are senior citizens. It`s an older community, shall we say. And they`re concerned. Because they`re not necessarily feeling so safe with a man like this, who could be next door.
GRACE: Well, that`s a fine thought, to look out your back window and see Ryan Alexander Jenkins, the man police say just tore the teeth out of a woman`s head so she couldn`t be identified, standing staring in your kitchen window. Nice.
We are taking your calls live. To Jeannie in Montana.
Hi, dear.
CALLER: Hi, Nancy.
GRACE: What`s your question?
CALLER: Well, I`m really curious. One of the first statements Ryan made to Megan, on that reality show, was he wouldn`t he wouldn`t make her sign a pre-nup. Do you know, or does Jasmine`s family know, if he did the same thing with her?
GRACE: What, if anything, do we know, Stacy Butler, was there a pre- nup, do we know?
STACY BUTLER: I have not had any information on that.
GRACE: OK, that would likely be uncovered at a later point. Right now they`re just trying to get the alleged perp.
Let`s take a look at this reality TV star in action.
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RYAN ALEXANDER JENKINS: Time with Megan alone was enough to let her get in touch with my deeper side and redeem myself for, you know, some of the silly things I said at dinner.
Because we`re waiting on my card.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, I hope it`s not declined, for you.
(LAUGHTER)
JENKINS: You`re cute.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re cute.
JENKINS: So, is this the best date ever?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maybe.
JENKINS: Maybe?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`ll tell you at the end.
JENKINS: I don`t know if Megan and I have had enough time together for her to actually loosen up and really get to know me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Loosen up. I feel like you`re manipulating me.
(LAUGHTER)
JENKINS: I wanted so show her a little bit of vulnerability, to you know, make her a little more comfortable with me.
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GRACE: You are seeing a sound and video from VH1`s "Megan Wants A Millionaire" It`s from 51 Minds Entertainment. You know, if you really take a look at that, here`s a guy, who`s got a string of women on the line. And we have established a pattern, an abusive pattern, of violence toward women. What can you tell me, Jon Baird?
BAIRD: Well, we can tell you that back in 2005 there was a case in Canada, where he assaulted an ex-girlfriend. Now, when that case came down, I guess, he pleaded out on it and he had to get counseling, not only for domestic violence, but for a sex addiction.
GRACE: Whoa, back, back, back. Violence and a sex addict? Did I just hear you correctly?
BAIRD: That`s right, sex addiction.
GRACE: OK, go ahead.
BAIRD: He had to get counseling for both of those. And then another ex-girlfriend in another report today, that I saw, said that he was really into sex. That was one of the reasons that they broke up. But in any event, he also had -
GRACE: Now, wait, wait, wait, Jon Baird, you could say that about just any man you happened to snatch off the street.
BAIRD: Yes.
GRACE: They`re really into sex. Bu why did he have to get counseling for it. Isn`t that a little bit beyond the norm?
BAIRD: I would think it is beyond the norm. But basically that was in the report. That was in the condition that he get this counseling. So, obviously, there was some sort of issue with that.
GRACE: Yes, I have a feeling we`re putting perfume on the pig here. Because when you have to go get counseling for a sex addiction, after you`ve beaten up two girlfriends? And what can you tell me about him punching Jasmine Fiore before? Punching her, in public, to where she falls - fully dressed, pocketbook, cell phone, everything -into a swimming pool?
BAIRD: That`s right. He was charged with that in Las Vegas a couple of months ago. And remember, they just met back in March and got married a couple of days later. It look, these problems already cropped up and they were fighting. Supposedly they got married and it got annulled. And then, he punches her.
GRACE: And here, I`ve got, in my hand, the restraining order or the domestic violence complaint against him, in that particular, case.
We are taking your calls live.
After a string of abusive attacks on women, now Jasmine Fiore is dead.
We are taking your calls live. Everybody the verdict is in. Tonight`s winner of this show`s #1 Fan Contest, New Jersey friend of the show, Diane. She never misses a show. She even planned her wedding so after the ceremony, she could watch, and then go back for the cocktail hour and reception. She`s a para-legal, a proud mother. Congratulations, Diane. You get that signed copy of the new thriller, and New York Times Best-Seller, "Eleventh Victim".
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GRACE: Jasmine Fiore, last seen with her husband, Ryan Jenkins, in San Diego, at a poker tournament. The very next morning, the building manager had found her dead, stuffed naked, in a suitcase, in a dumpster.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We now have a warrant for the arrest of Ryan Alexander Jenkins for the murder of Jasmine.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As you have just heard from California investigators, murder charges have been filed in the brutal death of 28- year-old swimsuit model Jasmine Fiore.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They offered some gruesome new details as well, about the state of Fiore`s body when it was found early Saturday morning.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your question was about mutilation? Yes, the fingers and teeth were removed.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shocking details emerged. The suspect removing Fiore`s teeth and fingers and stuffing her inside a suitcase found thrown away like trash.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ryan Jenkins is an animal. What he has done to Jasmine is unspeakable.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cops were searching the entire West Coast for Ryan and a man fitting his description was seen riding a boat in Blain, Washington. He was right next to the Canadian border.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He`s now officially wanted. That we don`t stop looking for him `til we have him apprehended and in custody.
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GRACE: We have learned that this past April, which I believe would have been in those 15-months probation, he was charged with punching - punching this woman, Jasmine Fiore.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the probation started January `07, it would have terminated in April of `08.
GRACE: And the incident with the now deceased Jasmine Fiore was in April. So, now we are seeing a pattern.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was `09 or `08?
GRACE: Of `09. A pattern of attacks on woman. This young model, found folded, dead, in a suitcase. And now the latest, the person of interest, her new husband, his car, his BMW, and his boat trailer found abandoned at the Canadian border. And my question is, what is Canada going to do about it?
To Travis Heinrich, former fiance of Jasmine Fiore.
Travis, thank you for being with us.
He`s joining us from Las Vegas.
Describe her personality to me. She has been slurred in the media and in print. What was she like?
TRAVIS HEINRICH, EX-FIANCE OF JASMINE FIORE: She was a hardworking, business professional woman. I mean, she was smart, she was ambitious. I mean, for example, everybody wants to say that she was this model, party girl. Nobody found a naked picture of her on the Internet, anywhere. She was one of those -she did apply nudity, but she never did naked modeling. That was never her thing.
What she did was she did her thing, she worked, she was happy when she did the best she did modeling in events to network with business people. She was smart. She wanted to be a business owner. She was not born into millions of dollars and she was willing to work for it. That was crazy after the first time I met her over years ago, when she first came into Vegas she got a job at the Palms. When the Playboy Club first opened she networked herself in there through Playboy Golf and the Playboy organization.
I admired that. It was great to see. It was great and refreshing to see a woman that`s good looking and beautiful, that was ambitious that did her own thing. She lived alone. She was happy. She didn`t settle. She worked, she worked, if she wanted it she worked. It was amazing. That`s what I knew. Like we were good, we dated, we had fun. We moved in together for a while and then we, you know, she was cordial, we went out we always had fun. Everybody knew her, but she always had her ex-boyfriends around. She never burned a bridge.
I mean, I could go on and on about her. Just, she was very definitive, either you are together or your not. She didn`t lie. She back stab (ph). She didn`t play games. It`s unbelievable that another human being could do what they did.
GRACE: It is. And want to go to his former attorney, Alain Hepner. He`s a very well-respected attorney there in Calgary.
Mr. Hepner, would it be your duty to report it to authorities if he tried to reach you in Canada?
ALAIN HEPNER, RYAN JENKINS ATTORNEY: No. I would maintain a solicitor/client privilege, if he did try to reach me or the family did. So, I would deal with that according to the oath I took, with the law society.
GRACE: So, in other words, according to Alain Hepner, he would not report it, and that is his duty as a defense attorney, extremely well- respected attorney in the area. Alain Hepner, to our attorneys, Gloria Allred, Doug Burns, Bradford Cohen.
Gloria, what about it. What`s the duty here in the U.S.? If your guy is wanted for murder and he calls you for help? What do you do?
GLORIA ALLRED, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY, VICTIMS RIGHTS ADVOCATE: No, attorney/client privilege of confidentiality.
GRACE: Right.
ALLRED: Means that anything that a client, or even a prospective client, tells the attorney is confidential and cannot be disclosed. That would be a violation and that`s why that is.
GRACE: Do you agree, Doug Burns?
DOUG BURNS, ATTORNEY: I do, but there have been cases that test that principle to the absolute limits, Nancy. For example, let`s say, God forbid, a child is abducted and still alive, and then you are told where the child is. So, these are very tricky hypotheticals.
GRACE: Is that correct, Bradford?
BRADFORD COHEN, ATTORNEY: Absolutely. There are some instances where it has been pushed, but I think I agree with Gloria, in terms of it`s attorney/client privilege. I don`t think you can breach it.
BURNS: Right.
COHEN: If he calls you and tells you where he is, I don`t think you can go to authorities and say, hey, this is where my client is.
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GRACE: What a week in America`s courtrooms. Take a look at the stories, and more important, the people who touched our lives.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can now announce, that as of this afternoon, we now have a warrant for the arrest of Ryan Alexander Jenkins for the murder of Jasmine
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The fingers and teeth were removed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jasmine Fiore is 28-years old, was 28-years old. She was an aspiring model for a time.
GRACE: Do we know the cause of death, Jon.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We do know it was strangulation. I just checked with the police again, just a short time ago, and they confirmed it was strangulation.
GRACE: Very stunning development. The police have announced just hours ago it was no stranger that snuck into that home and took this little girl. Where is Haleigh Cummings? Simple answer, we didn`t know. But now this is a major development, T.J.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The one thing that you`ve got Ronald and Crystal (ph), no longer suspects. But Misty`s story is still inconsistent as it was from day one.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is Christy Cornwell, in home video, from several years ago, when her now teenage son was a baby. Each passing day in her disappearance is agonizing for her family, who prays for her safe return.
GRACE: Joann Cornwall, this is Christy`s mother, and Richard Cornwell, her brother. They are asking for your help tonight.
What are police telling you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, they are just telling us that they`ve not found her yet.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We know she was abducted. There`s no question about it. The evidence spells that.
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GRACE: Let`s stop and remember Army Staff Sergeant Robert Stanley, 27, Spotsylvania, Virginia, killed, Iraq, on a third tour, awarded the Bronze Star and Purple Heart. Served in New Orleans after Katrina. Loved cooking, collecting guns and rocks, favorite author, Tom Clancy. Dreamed of being a cop, starting a family. Leaves behind parents, Robert and Thelma, one sister, widow, Jamie, Robert Stanley, American hero.
Thanks to our guests, but especially to you. And good night from New York control room. Goodnight, Brett, Norm, Stacey, Evoll (ph). And happy birthday today to devoted viewer, retired from the justice system, personal friend, a friend of the show, Jo Horn (ph). And happy birthday to another Georgia friend of the show, Maida, grandmother of nine, great-grandmother of 10. Happy birthday.
Everyone, I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 o`clock, sharp, Eastern. Good night, friends.
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