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Plane Overshoots Landing Target by 150 Miles; Afghanistan to Hold Runoff Presidential Elections; Websites Show Spread of H1N1 Flu; Some Americans Traveling Abroad For Medical Care

Aired October 24, 2009 - 10:00   ET

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T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the CNN Center, this is CNN Saturday morning, still, October 24th.

BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: We have been on the air since 6:00 a.m.

HOLMES: Still morning time. I'm T.J. Holmes.

NGUYEN: Good morning, everybody. I'm Betty Nguyen. Thanks for starting your day with us. it is, yes, 10:00 a.m. in Atlanta, 9:00 a.m. in Minneapolis. Why are we talking about Minneapolis?

HOLMES: Are planes landing where they're supposed to?

NGUYEN: Apparently they are today.

HOLMES: They are today.

NGUYEN: But as of Wednesday evening there was a Northwest Airlines plane that was supposed to land 150 miles away from there.

HOLMES: Yes.

NGUYEN: And couldn't get in touch with the pilots. Didn't know what was going on. They thought, well, maybe the pilots are sleeping, maybe they were arguing. The pilots say no, neither of those.

So, the question is what were you doing if you missed your runway by 150 miles? We're asking.

HOLMES: It's kind of hard to do, quite frankly. You'll hear from the pilot coming up here in a second.

Also keep an eye on Pakistan, the crackdown that's happening there against the Taliban.

Also in neighboring Afghanistan, something going on there. There's a war between two presidential candidates. We have a runoff coming up two weeks from now. That will have a big impact on what will happen with U.S. troops in that country, as well.

NGUYEN: And next week, fans get to see and hear Michael Jackson's "This is It." Will it live up to everyone's expectations? Will you be going? Will it rake in the millions of dollars that are actually at stake for this? We'll delve into that this morning. HOLMES: And the big question this morning Betty mentioned, what in the world were they doing to miss the airport, miss the runway by 150 miles? We're talking about these two pilots who, again, first said they weren't sleeping, said they were actually in a heated discussion was the first thing that came out. Then they said no, it wasn't the case.

Listen to one of these pilots.

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RICHARD COLE, FIRST OFFICER, NORTHWEST, FLIGHT 188: Nobody was asleep in the cockpit. No arguments took place. But other than that, I cannot tell you anything that went on because we're having hearings this weekend, we're having hearings on Tuesday. All that information will come out then.

QUESTION: No arguments took place? That's the statement that's out there all over the place.

COLE: There were no arguments at all in the cockpit. There was -- that wasn't even an issue.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

NGUYEN: All right. Well, you know, again, the plane was supposed to land in Minneapolis, missed that by 150 miles. I mean, we are not talking just a few feet for the runway, you know, a few miles even -- 150 miles.

They did not have contact with them for an hour and 18 minutes. The radio control towers were trying to get them by radio, text messaging, cell phone, every which way possible.

And a little bit earlier this morning I spoke with Peter Goelz who is a former managing director of the National Transportation Safety Board, and I asked him about the dangers of Northwest flight 188 and that unaccounted for hour.

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PETER GOELZ, FORMER MANAGING NTSB: Even though they were out of communication with air traffic control, air traffic control knew where they were. The transponder, the device that identifies to air-traffic controllers what flight it is, what altitude they're at --

NGUYEN: Yes, Peter, but if you don't know exactly what is going on inside that cockpit, why are you overshooting your destination? I mean, they could have scrambled jets.

GOELZ: Absolutely.

NGUYEN: There could have been a possibility of that plane being shot down.

GOELZ: Yes. Air traffic control is going to keep other planes away from them, but it's going to raise the anxiety level.

And at some point -- and apparently they were getting close to that point -- the air traffic control stars to declare that it is a hijacking event or that they are fearful that the flight crew no longer has control of the plane, and that triggers a whole set of activities.

So, it is inexplicable. It was -- and it was -- I mean, there was no immediate danger, but certainly there was some long-term -- you know, there was some -- it was not a correct situation.

NGUYEN: No.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

NGUYEN: Yes, not by any means. But we do expect to hear more about exactly what went down in that cockpit for an hour and 18 when there was really no communication whatsoever. We'll hear more in the coming week from the NTSB, and of course we'll update you on that.

HOLMES: We will continue with our head-scratching headlines and talk about balloon boy now.

You remember. Everyone was concerned about this six-year-old kid we thought was floating across Colorado, thought he was in this homemade balloon. Well, now the mother apparently has admitted it was a publicity stunt. It was a hoax.

You see the family there. They're the Heene family. An affidavit, we've gotten a chance to get a look at it now, and Mayumi Heene, you see her on the right with her husband there, said they planned this thing weeks ago and actually told their children, "lie to the media, lie to authorities when this thing goes down."

Now, the attorneys for the family didn't immediately return our calls for comment. Mayumi dialed the convincing 911 call. You may remember hearing that. When you go back and hear it now it will upset you because so many people in this country were so concerned genuinely about this six-year-old kid.

The family drew suspicion, of course, after the interview on CNN in which one of their kids apparently didn't follow the instructions because he forgot the part about lying to authorities --

NGUYEN: And the media.

HOLMES: -- lying to the media and told our Wolf Blitzer apparently what we believe now is the truth. When Wolf asked why he didn't come out, the little boy said because the parents said we did it for the show. That really got suspicions started.

And authorities heard that as well, and the investigation went from there, and it appears this whole thing from start to finish was planned.

NGUYEN: And just looking at that video, I mean, just trying to appear concerned. And when you listen to that 911 tape from the mother, who is crying on there, all the while knowing that this is a complete hoax, yes, it might get you a little fired up.

HOLMES: Met at acting school. It's worth saying that as well. These two met at acting school, so they are trained actors, trained to fool people, trained to be in character, and apparently they were for some time in front of the national media.

NGUYEN: So let us know what you think about this whole story, especially now the confessions that they hatched this for two weeks and then told the children to lie to investigators and lie to the media. Go to our Facebook page or Twitter page or reach us on our blogs here.

But there is another story we want to tell you about, a real one, this time. We're learning of a supposed U.S. drone missile strike on a Taliban target in Pakistan.

Pakistani officials say 16 people were killed when two missiles hit a militant hideout. The strike was in the northwest part of the country where Pakistani troops have launched an offensive against Taliban and Al Qaeda forces.

Pakistani military officials also say their troops have seized a key village in the Taliban stronghold of south Waziristan. The village is the home of two key Taliban leaders, one of them believed to be behind some of the deadliest suicide bombing attacks in Pakistan.

HOLMES: The Taliban threatening Afghanistan's runoff election coming up in a couple weeks. This is just as the candidates start their campaigning again, and the White House, of course, paying close attention here.

NGUYEN: No doubt, because this election could have huge implications on U.S. troop levels. Elaine Quijano joins us now live from the White House with the latest on this. What are you hearing, Elaine?

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Betty and T.J., as you know, for President Obama the stakes could not be higher when it comes to these Afghanistan elections.

You remember it was about a week ago that we heard White House officials saying the United States absolutely needs a credible partner in Afghanistan. In fact, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs even said, look, it doesn't really matter how many additional troops you send to that country if there's not a credible, legitimate partner in place.

That is why what happens in Afghanistan matters so much, why the internal political situation in Afghanistan really makes such a difference for the United States, for the Obama administration. Here is what U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates had to say about the administration's ongoing Afghanistan review.

Take a listen.

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ROBERT GATES, U.S. DEFENSE SECRETARY: We're looking the full range of activities and our strategy in Afghanistan. As has been said publicly in Washington, and as I said, we're not pulling out. I think that any reduction is very unlikely. The question is do we have the strategy right in light of the situation we face? Does it need refinement in some way?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

QUIJANO: And Secretary Gates is meeting with NATO allies.

Here is something else for the administration to consider. America's NATO allies are now backing the strategy that was put forward by General Stanley McChrystal.

Of course, he is an important figure in all of this. He is the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan. And he is advocating for tens of thousands of additional U.S. forces in that country not just to fight the Taliban but also to basically help boost and train up Afghanistan's own military and police forces.

So, that NATO backing of that strategy really is going to be something that the White House is going to have to take into consideration here as it moves forward with its deliberation.

Elaine Quijano joining us live. Thank you, Elaine.

HOLMES: And we've got two election rivals and we have at CNN two provocative interview. And you can seem them both tomorrow right here at 9:00 a.m. eastern. Former Afghan foreign minister Abdullah Abdullah speaks to John King on "State of the Union."

Then at 1:00 p.m., "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS," he has the exclusive interview with Afghan President Hamid Karzai. We'll hear part of those interviews coming up in the half hour.

NGUYEN: Speaking of Afghanistan and Iraq and our soldiers fighting over there, you actually got a firsthand look at how they train for that.

HOLMES: Yes. And it's going to be critical. Ft. Irwin, the base will be critical to the mission in Afghanistan and if there are troop increases.

Show you the video here. This is the middle of the Mojave Desert, a national training center. If you look around in the scenery there, unless we told you, you might think they were in a war zone, maybe you would think they were in Iraq, and that's precisely the point.

This scene here, they have actors playing the roles of generals, civilian, and suicide bombers, as you just saw there. They make this as real as possible so when the soldiers go out there to train they are not surprised. When they then go to Iraq, they can see and tell and feel like they've been there before.

So, these people don't just say take one or take two or roll or -- it's not like that. They are out there living for two weeks, all these actors, and living in their roles as Iraqi citizens or Iraqi police. Amazing scenarios they set up to make this as real as possible.

I spent a week out there essentially in the desert with them. As you see here, walking through this town, a woman in her character. She stays in it, trying to offer me something. They stay in character. It's really remarkable what they do out there. But we'll bring you these reports for the next coming days and weeks.

NGUYEN: Wow, it's really fascinating, too. And you lived it. You were in the tents with the soldier, ate the MRES, had the cold showers.

HOLMES: All that stuff and what they go through. They try to make it feel exactly like it will be in Iraq. And they really have done a remarkable job. They train mostly for Iraq now, but again, they are going to start shooting towards Afghanistan. So they can change the scenes and make it look like Afghanistan, as well.

NGUYEN: Very, very interesting, looking forward to that.

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NGUYEN: All right, in just a few weeks we'll announce the CNN "Hero of the Year." But until then, we are asking friends of CNN heroes to tell us more about the 10 extraordinary individuals who will be honored Thanksgiving night.

So here's Grammy winner introducing a musician from New Orleans who is turning kids away from violence.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

WYCLEF JEAN, MUSICIAN: How y'all doing. My name is Wyclef Jean. At the first annual "CNN Heroes" tribute show, I had the honor of performing and helping to recognize the great works of everyday citizens changing the world.

As a founder of Yelli Haiti, an organization that helps to improve lives in my native country, I am thrilled to help CNN introduce one of this year's top ten honorees.

Now more than ever, the world needs hero.

DERRICK TABB, CHAMPIONING CHILDREN: Life after Katrina is really hard for a kid. You have violence, the drug life. I'm just tired of it.

My aim is to get kids off the streets. My name is Derrick Tab, and I started a free music education program for the kids of New Orleans.

We do more than just teach music. We offer transportation, we offer instruments. I feed you so you're not hungry, give you tutoring. I call it the "no excuse policy." You don't have no excuse why you're not here.

You don't have any experience. We meet five days a week. We're constantly learning something new. And that's what keeps the kids coming back every day.

I don't say that I'm saving lives. I say I'm giving life, a whole different life of music.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

NGUYEN: And you can go to CNN.com/heroes right now to vote for the hero of the year.

HOLMES: Well, everybody out there concerned right about now for swine flu, what is still being called by some, it's H1N1 is what a lot of people really prefer it to go by. A lot of fears about the vaccines, schools are closing, classes are closing.

So, what to do? A lot of people looking for answers. Josh Levs has some for us. Good morning to you, Josh.

JOSH LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you guys.

You can actually now watch the spread of H1N1 anywhere in the world, including in your city. We have some video of that right here. I'll show you how to get the latest facts and advice.

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NGUYEN: Small businesses are crucial to the economy, and the White House plans to free up funds for small banks that support them. And President Obama talked about that this morning on his radio and internet address to the nation.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The goal here is to get credit where it's needed most -- the businesses that support families, sustain communities, and create the jobs that power our economy.

That's why we enacted the financial stability plan in the first place back when many of our largest banks were on the verge of collapse. Our credit markets were frozen and it was nearly impossible for ordinary people to get loans to buy a car or home or pay for college.

The idea was to jump-start lending and keep our economy from spiraling into a depression. Fortunately, it worked.

(END VIDEO CLIP) NGUYEN: And that may have worked for big banks, but not the smaller ones. The number of failed U.S. banks this year has climbed, get this, to over 100. In fact, it stands right now at 106 failed banks.

The federal fund that covers bank failures has $7.5 billion in it. Well, a year ago that fund had $45 billion in it -- T.J.?

HOLMES: All right. H1N1 cases are widespread and so are fears of getting that virus. The CDC is reporting as of Friday afternoon flu activity is prevalent in 46 states.

Earlier here we reported that number was 47. So we were one off. Sorry about that. We want to make sure we get it clear that it's only 46.

Josh, H1N1, everybody's got these concerns right about now. Everybody has questions. Good place to find some answers.

LEVS: Yes. And there is something new, which is really cool. You can actually physically watch it spread. You can see the cases day by day and how much it spreads.

Let's go to this video and I'll show you how we can link it. Check it out, October 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th. Each day you'll see it continue and we've looked throughout the month bringing us up to today.

Every time you see new things appear there, it's more cases, confirmed cases, reported cases, and in some cases still unclear, but you see it keeps growing and growing and growing.

All of that from healthmap.org. And if we can come here we'll zoom into the screen and I'll show you how to access this yourself. What you can do is focus in on any part of the world. If you want to see what's going on in the United States, click on any of these and it will give you some information about these cases, confirmed deaths or reported deaths.

And you can see over here what H1N1 means. This is a great resource, healthmap.org.

Google is doing something interesting here. Google has a system in which they're checking how much are people in different parts of the world looking for information about what to do about the flu.

And they say that they have found through a lot of study that when people are Googling for a lot of information, it means the flu is actually there.

Canada, the United States. You can come over here to the east, see Europe, Asia, and it tells how much active they're finding at any given time.

They say sometimes that activity beats the reports because these are people at their homes who haven't necessarily gone to doctors. Two more sites to show you. Flu.gov is from the government. They have lots of updated information all the time, and our site, CNN.com/H1N1. We have advice, videos for you, advice from Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

And what we do as well, we continuously update this whole section that will tell you where some of the biggest activity is in the United States, link you to resources in your town and in your state, and when these vaccines become more available, as we all hope they will, we'll be able to show you where to get those.

Everything you just saw you don't need to put down because I've put links to everything right here. Let's go to the graphic. Everything you need to see is at my blog page, CNN.com/Josh.

Betty, T.J., this is some helpful information for people to get the absolute latest at any given time, even on the go, about H1N1.

HOLMES: People need info, but they need the truth about it, as well. A lot of stuff and conjecture about what's happening. Josh, we appreciate you. Thanks.

NGUYEN: Going overseas to save money on health care, it is a growing trend for people seeking surgery, in fact. But as Isha Sesay tells us, this form of medical tourism is very dangerous and there are a few things you need to know before you go under the knife. She takes us "On the Go" with some important information.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ISHA SESAY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Some Americans are traveling great distances in an effort to save on health care costs.

RUDY RUPAK, PLANET HOSPITAL: The most typical procedure people are going overseas for are orthopedic surgery, cardiac surgeries, cancer treatment, and dental and cosmetics.

SESAY: But there are risks.

RUPAK: There are doctors abroad that are using medical instruments and devices and the techniques that are invented in America but not available in America because they're waiting for FDA approval.

SESAY: For those looking abroad for medical care, experts caution -- do your homework and communicate clearly with your doctors. They also advise thoroughly researching doctors and hospitals before making any commitment. And know the cost up front.

RUPAK: There are some insurance companies that will treat overseas medical care as an out-of-network benefit.

SESAY: Finally, understand the international legal issues if something goes wrong.

(END VIDEOTAPE) HOLMES: Coming up here, Afghanistan. We've been talking about elections there for quite some time. Well, not done just yet. They have to do a runoff between those two men. Exclusive conversations with the country's current president on the left, and the man who wants the job on the right.

NGUYEN: Plus, Michael Jackson's final project. The public finally gets a chance to see "This is it." And we have a preview.

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HOLMES: The campaigning officially started today in Afghanistan's runoff election. And this weekend, the two men at the center of the race, they are talking to CNN.

NGUYEN: Afghan President Hamid Karzai was ahead in the original election, but election officials threw out a lot of his votes over fraud. And he tells our Fareed Zakaria why he agreed to the runoff.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN HOST: Were you pressured by the United States? Did Ambassador Eikenberry, did people in Washington call you to pressure you to agree to a runoff?

PRESIDENT HAMID KARZAI, AFGHANISTAN: Well, a lot of leaders called so ask me that. Senator Kerry was here, who conducted myself, I must say that -- I think I owe that to him -- conducted hymn very, very well in Afghanistan and during all those periods of various negotiations with us.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown called. Other leaders called. My friend and my brother, the president of Turkey, the president of Iceland (ph) called for different reasons.

There was this friendly effort to ask me to accept the result of the IEC. But that's not the reason I went to call for a runoff and accept the result of the IEC that I respect a lot. It was recognizing that Afghanistan had gone through so many years of difficulties, so many years of internal strife backed by foreign players.

And I felt as though Afghanistan was entering that period again. I felt as if Afghans were pitted one against the other.

And for that reason and for the reason of safety and security of the Afghan people and, as I mentioned earlier, cementing democratic traditions in Afghanistan, I went to agree to a second round, which I believe is good for Afghanistan, which will eventually be good for all of us.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HOLMES: Already. That's the incumbent there, Hamid Karzai. We're also hearing from the guy who wants the job, Abdullah Abdullah.

NGUYEN: Yes, and Abdullah tells our John King that he'd like to see Karzai admit there was fraud in the first election, which was held back in August.

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JOHN KING, CNN HOST: Let's talk a little bit about the campaign, and let's start with your concerns. In the last campaign, you obviously thought there was considerable fraud and you thought the government was complicit in some way in that fraud.

President Karzai told our Fareed Zakaria this -- he said, there were some mistake, some incidents of fraud, but the election as a whole was clean and the result was clear. What do you think of that?

DR. ABDULLAH ABDULLAH, AFGHAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The -- to call this as clean elections I think this -- with all due respect to Mr. Karzai, it's a bit of ignorance, I should say, to say the least.

This is like the fraud of the history. And unfortunately, the government was involved, IEC was involved. That's according to everybody, international observers, UNAMA, elections complaints commission, the people of Afghanistan.

So, to ignore -- just to deny it is not the solution. Yes, it was a step forward that the people of Afghanistan participated in the elections, but it wasn't a service to the people to ignore the institutions, the rule of law, and come up with such a process.

But at the same time, one chapter is behind us. It led to the runoff. And we need to get it corrected in order to open the door for the new chapter. So, denying it is not the solution. Rather than admitting it and correcting it would be responsible leadership.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

NGUYEN: And you can catch the rest of both interviews right here on CNN tomorrow. Abdullah Abdullah will be on "STATE OF THE UNION" with John King at 9:00 a.m. eastern, and Afghan President Hamid Karzai on "FAREED ZAKARIA, GPS." That is at 1:00 p.m. eastern.

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HOLMES: We'll be back in just a couple minutes with another check of the morning's top stories.

NGUYEN: And listen to this. Obviously a lot of us waking up, ready for great meal on a Saturday morning, but a 2100-calorie burger? 2,100 calories, really? Seven pattys. Where is it? Why? Stay with us. We'll have that story.

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NGUYEN: Taking a look at top stories right now.

Nebraska Senator Mike Johanns delivered the Republicans' response to the president's weekly radio address and he really took aim at some of the president's health care proposals.

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SEN. MIKE JOHANNS, (R) NEBRASKA: My state, Nebraska, stands to lose $126 million for Home Health Services. And many of the 38 Nebraska hospices would be in danger of literally shutting their doors.

Nearly $500 billion will be cut from Medicare nationwide. The bottom line is this -- we're nearing 10 percent unemployment. We have a record budget deficit. And many families are working hard just to put food on the table and to pay the bills.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

NGUYEN: The senator also says the president promised to have open deliberations during reform negotiations, but he says a 1,500- page bill is being brokered behind closed doors.

HOLMES: A turn now to Chatham, New Jersey, where police are warning residents there to be extra cautious after a Catholic priest was found dead in his church rectory. Investigators say it appears to be a homicide. So far no arrests, also no motive.

NGUYEN: So there's been a suspected U.S. drone missile strike on a Taliban target in Pakistan. Pakistani officials say 16 people were killed when two missiles hit a militant hideout in northwest town of Damadola.

Pakistani troops are on the offensive against Taliban and Al Qaeda forces in that region. Pakistani military officials also say that their troops have seized a key village in the Taliban stronghold region.

Up next, the concert and album Michael Jackson never got to finish.

HOLMES: "This Is It" is coming out next week. We've got a preview.

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HOLMES: All right. This was supposed to be, supposed to be Michael Jackson's big comeback.

NGUYEN: Yes, it was. Instead, it is the final chapter that the singer really never got to complete. And on Wednesday, though, a new documentary releases nationwide. And what it does is takes fans behind the scenes as the king of pop rehearses for his last concert. It's called "This is it."

HOLMES: Ian Drew is senior music editor for "US Weekly." He joins us now from New York. And good morning to you, appreciate you being here with us.

"This is it," what should we expect out of this thing? We've heard so much about it. Exactly what are we supposed to see? IAN DREW, SENIOR MUSIC EDITOR, "US WEEKLY": What you're really going to see is what you were meant to see. This was a movie that was not supposed to come out and happen. It's rehearsal footage, behind the scenes.

As with everything with Michael, when he embarked on a new project, he filmed it, because he didn't know when he would use it. It would either be a DVD giveaway, some concert footage that would be shown on the screens during the actual show.

So this wasn't actually meant for the reason it is being used. But you'll see him in basically full-on dress rehearsal mode, behind the scenes. And this is really for the company to show.

He was in great health. He was really ready to make an appearance. Others might argue with that and say that's not really how things were. This is only one side of him, because obviously he was not doing too well off camera when these cameras were not rolling.

But this is the side of him that's going to show Michael in his glory right before he passed away.

NGUYEN: Let me ask you this, Ian. Did we learn anything new with this document? Do we see a side of him we've never seen before?

DREW: I think we see an appreciation for his genius, especially in the later years when people questioned it. People made it like he was very frail, he couldn't move, he couldn't dance. You really see that he still had the stuff, he really had everything that everyone had always talked about, even up until his final days.

HOLMES: And Ian, this thing seems like it was put together pretty quickly. Already it's coming out. So, how well is this done? Is this going to be something that sort of looks like it has a high production value?

DREW: No.

HOLMES: Does it seem like this is something almost pieced together, thrown together right quick?

DREW: Well, it was thrown together quick, but remember, a lot of these sequences were already done. It's not that hard to e edit this because a lot was done already. So it doesn't take an incredibly long time for something like this.

It's like doing an MTV special. They do these things all the time on fly very quickly with all kinds of artists on their tours.

So it's the kind of thing where you've got a good crew and a good editing team, you go kind of assemble it pretty quickly, like any of the specials you see on the music channels.

NGUYEN: How much of a hit do you expect this will be?

DREW: It's going to be a massive hit, one of the top three movies of the year. It's already sold out, so that's how you know.

The soundtrack, I have to say a little disappointing because they're just studio versions of the songs that are in the movie but in the sequence of the movie, plus a few new ones, including that mediocre single that just came out.

But it's like "Bad," "Thriller," all the songs you already know that you already have from the number ones album and all the original albums.

HOLMES: You talked about how big of a hit this is about to be. So who's going to benefit? Where is all the money going?

NGUYEN: Exactly.

DREW: The money is going to AEG. The family is not seeing a penny.

NGUYEN: Not a dime of it.

DREW: Which is why the family is boycotting it. They are not seeing the movie or doing anything to promote it. They don't want this out there. They don't want everyone seeing it. They do not think Michael would have wanted, and they not getting any benefit for it.

NGUYEN: So this essentially is the way for that company to make the money back because there was never a tour.

DREW: Exactly. The money is going to the company.

And it still gives fans, though, another piece of it that they're hungering for. You know, they buy up the same records over and over again. They'll just take any new product that comes out with him. So it's a guaranteed money maker.

HOLMES: That's a good point. At this point we all have just about every song, but people keep buying a new version of it.

Andrew, again, "US Weekly," thank you. Forgive me. I keep saying U.S.

DREW: That's OK. It happens all the time. No problem.

HOLMES: We appreciate you this morning. Thanks so much.

NGUYEN: Yes, thank you.

Up next, right airport, wrong place to land.

HOLMES: Yes. We've got details on another bizarre ending for a flight. This one was Atlanta, was it not? Yes, here in Atlanta. Stay with us.

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NGUYEN: So, it's been a pretty rough week...

HOLMES: Rough week.

NGUYEN: ... for Delta, the airline that owns Northwest. And of course there's that flight that completely missed the airport in Minneapolis by, I don't know, 150 miles.

But even before that, on Monday a Delta flight from Rio de Janeiro accidentally landed on a taxiway in Atlanta.

HOLMES: Not supposed to land on those.

NGUYEN: No.

HOLMES: Supposed to taxi on those, is that correct.

Investigators are trying to figure this out and get to the bottom of this. Our Brian Todd is trying to figure this out, as well. He went to Dulles International Airport for a flight simulation to see what the pilots of the real flight might have been thinking.

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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Conditions are nearly identical to what those Delta pilots saw as they approaching the tarmac in Atlanta, same time of day, very similar weather.

We meet up with Leesburg, Virginia, with veteran flight instructor Raymond Dejan (ph). He's flown into Atlanta and several other major airports and has flown a 767. For part of this short hop in a small Cessna, I'm at the controls.

Shortly after takeoff, I asked Dejan (ph) about an a ground-based instrument in Atlanta that authorities say was off when that plane accidentally landed on the taxiway. It's called a localizer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The localizer is the instrument on the runway that sets this instrument here, guides this instrument. If the localizer is off, it's going to affect the flight and the landing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It definitely is one of the factors that, if it doesn't work, it is one of the things that might lead up to landing on the wrong spot, the wrong runway or taxiway. If it works, you line up those three lines. You are definitely in better shape to actually land on the proper runway.

TODD: Dejan (ph) also says a third pilot on the Rio to Atlanta flight who was sick in the cabin at the time of landing could have helped with an extra set of eyes.

At Dulles Airport, Dejan (ph) says, the taxiways run parallel and right next to the runways, just like Atlanta.

As we approach, there seems to be a clear demarcation. Runways are one color, taxiways another. And Dejan (ph) says that's universal. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the runway with the three yellowish strips. The approach lights are the bright yellow lights here. Taxiways are the blue lights to the right of it.

TODD: But in Atlanta, officials say, the bright approach lights were off.

Shortly after we land and move onto the taxiway, a passenger jet comes in. It makes a perfect touchdown, but you can see just how close it is to where we're sitting on the tarmac. Still ...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These planes are coming in parallel. You're not thinking, you're not alert necessarily to a jet landing on the taxiway.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think I'd rather -- I would probably be thinking that it looks pretty close but he's not going to be on the taxiway. He'll be on the runway.

TODD: A disaster averted in Atlanta, Dejan (ph) says, because no other planes were on the taxiway.

Raymond Dejan (ph) says other factors could have played a role. Fatigue could have played a part since the pilots had been flying a long time from Latin America on that flight, also the fact that the airport was not very busy at the time. During busy periods, Dejan (ph) says, you can easily distinguish planes sitting on the taxi way from an empty runway.

Overall, he says, this was not an easy mistake to make but an understandable one. Still, those Delta pilots have been relieved from active flight pending the investigation.

Brian Todd, CNN, Leesburg, Virginia.

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NGUYEN: So you have that story and the other story about the pilots who overshot by 150 miles. And we're trying to figure out what was going on in the cockpit if they were not sleeping or not arguing.

HOLMES: They now say they were not doing either.

NGUYEN: Right. And we are being told we have to wait for the investigation. OK, but what in the world could they have been doing? We have been asking you that this morning, and boy, have we gotten some responses.

HOLMES: We've been asking for your creative responses, your speculation. Let's go first to the twitter page, let's go to the one at the bottom.

Excellent Candy says "We should give the pilots a break. Haven't you ever missed your exit?"

NGUYEN: Yes, but not by 150 miles. HOLMES: And a few up there. "Maybe the radio was not on the right frequency." Hey, ever think about that?

But they also called them, sent text messages, called their cell phones.

My twitter page, Phil says, "Tequila, anyone?" No, the pilots say they were not drinking. They even took a test and there was no sign of that.

But this is interesting. This is on my Facebook page. It's very comical. He says, "I think the airline should consider the following slogans -- one, join our frequent near-miss program. Two, complimentary champagne during freefall" -- that's kind of mean -- "Three, our pilots are terminally ill and have nothing else to lose" -- that is horrible -- "Four, even terrorists are afraid to fly with us. And five, we are Amtrak with wings." This dude is taking shots at everybody.

But you can laugh because no one was hurt. Maybe a little inconvenienced because of the late flight, but nobody was hurt and this worked out all right. It might give them a chance to test some of the things in place for scrambling jets and things like that.

NGUYEN: That's not something you want to test.

HOLMES: You're right. But my goodness, what were they doing?

NGUYEN: Thanks for your comments, today, even though some of you were quite snippy with them.

HOLMES: Creative.

NGUYEN: Yes, "creative." That's what we'll call it.

There is much more ahead on the CNN NEWSROOM, including a topic guaranteed to get strong reaction from women. And the question is, what is good hair?

HOLMES: And we're getting the answer not from a women, but from a man, a comedian, Chris Rock.

NGUYEN: Chris Rock.

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NGUYEN: I like this story. Burger King promises that you can have it your way, right, anyway you want it. But can you handle a seven-patty high, 2,100-calorie monster of a burger?

HOLMES: I actually sure you could. I've seen you.

NGUYEN: It might take me a while.

HOLMES: Check this one out, the ultimate limited edition taste test. Kyung Lah, our correspondent, tells us where, why, and actually how it tastes.

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KYUNG LAH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This week, Microsoft is launching in Japan Windows 7, its new operating system. In a promotional move, it decided it wanted additional publicity, so it decided to join with Burger King and launched a Windows 7 whopper.

So, there are seven patties in the Windows 7 burger. And for this week at every single burger king in Japan you can buy this for 777 yen -- only the first 30 customers. That's about $8.50 U.S., $9 U.S.

That's about 791 grams of meat, which is just under a kilo, but also about 1.7 pounds. In case you're wondering who would eat all this, we actually found some people who are eating it, but not everybody.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They look good, but I don't know if I can keep all that down.

LAH: In Japan's economic slowdown, McDonald's has seen record profits -- fast, big portioned food and low prices. Burger King has a smaller market share but hopes this joint promotion in tech-loving Tokyo will generate buzz and business.

LAH (on camera): My turn. In case you're wondering, 2,120 calories, a whole day's calorie intake.

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