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Lohan Denied Bail, Jailed on Probation Violations
Aired September 24, 2010 - 20:00 ET
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RITA COSBY, GUEST HOST: Breaking news tonight. No more celebrity treatment for Hollywood superstar Lindsay Lohan. A judge finally brings down the hammer. In the last few hours, Lindsay Lohan handcuffed, taken straight from the courtroom directly to jail after testing positive, reportedly for cocaine, just weeks after she`s released from rehab, Lohan even admitting on Twitter she failed her drug test.
It must be deja vu for Lohan. Remember, she just walked out of jail after serving only 13 days of a 90-day sentence. But tonight, the judge, who already gave Lohan fair warning, refusing to even hear arguments for bail, insisting Lohan must sit behind bars until her next court date, the end of October. Tonight, there`s no "Get out of jail free" card for Lindsay Lohan.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lindsay Lohan, the troubled actress.
LINDSAY LOHAN, ACTRESS: Why wouldn`t I want to be here?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Back to jail.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Having to sit in jail.
LOHAN: I got into this to be an actress.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No mercy from the judge.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She couldn`t even post bail.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The fallout from failing two drug tests.
LOHAN: I did the best I could.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lohan`s admission that she failed the tests.
LOHAN: What am I supposed to do, what, not go and hang out with my friends?
I`ve been taking it seriously!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is her walking right here into the courthouse. She walked out in cuffs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Four deputies surrounded Lohan. They handcuffed her.
LOHAN: I feel like that will never happen to me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) rehab.
LOHAN: Yes, I`m that girl.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Brushes with the law.
LOHAN: Yes, I`m that girl.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re now seeing the fallout (INAUDIBLE)
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COSBY: Also, breaking news tonight in the disappearance of a 5-year- old Florida girl, Haleigh Cummings. The last person to see little Haleigh alive, her own stepmother, Misty Croslin. Now a major undercover drug trafficking case is sending key witnesses in Haleigh`s disappearance straight to prison. And now in a big move, guess who`s going behind bars? Haleigh`s own father. And he`s agreed to testify against the last person to see his little girl alive. Will we finally get the truth about what happened to Haleigh?
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RON CUMMINGS, HALEIGH`S FATHER: I know somebody took my little girl!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The father of missing Florida girl Haleigh Cummings is going to prison.
CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, HALEIGH`S MOTHER: We just want our baby to come home!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ron Cummings accepted a plea deal on drug charges.
CUMMINGS: I can get it for you, no problem. (EXPLETIVE DELETED) In two weeks I can make the money to pay for them and eat them myself.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, do me a favor.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get on the ground! Get on the ground!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He entered no contest pleas to three counts.
CUMMINGS: If I find whoever has my daughter before y`all do, I`m killing them. I don`t care.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He`s not as strong at home as he is on TV.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A judge dismissed two other charges and sentenced him to 15 years behind bars.
CUMMINGS: Just because I said I`ll kill him if I find them before y`all do, ever since then, people been calling saying I`ve been threatening them with guns and everything else.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Misty Croslin, Cummings`s ex-wife, also facing sentencing in the same drug case.
MISTY CROSLIN, HALEIGH`S BABY-SITTER: They can all put this on TV and kiss my (EXPLETIVE DELETED)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Croslin was baby-sitting little 5-year-old Haleigh the night the child disappeared.
CROSLIN: If I had something to do with it, I knew where she was, we wouldn`t be sitting here today!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She hasn`t been seen since February of 2009.
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COSBY: And good evening, everybody. I`m Rita Cosby, in for Nancy Grace. I want to thank all of you for being with us this evening. Bombshell tonight. A judge finally brings down the hammer on Hollywood superstar Lindsay Lohan. After testing positive for drugs, reportedly cocaine, Lohan handcuffed and taken directly to jail.
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LOHAN: I wasn`t expecting any special treatment.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The judge said, You`re going to jail.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lohan taken away from the courtroom in handcuffs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Actress Lindsay Lohan will be behind bars.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s headed back again for 30 days.
LOHAN: Nobody`s perfect. Everyone has their ups and downs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She failed her recent drug test.
LOHAN: You only live once.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That tweet -- this was after the failed drug test, saying, "Regrettably, I did, in fact, fail my most recent drug test."
LOHAN: You`re in LA and you hear everyone`s going out, you`re, like, Oh, well, what`s going to happen if I`m not there that one night?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her hands were placed behind her back.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She showed no emotion.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Deputies handcuffed her.
LOHAN: I know better.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She will have to sit behind bars for 30 days.
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COSBY: And let`s go right to Alan Duke, our CNN.com reporter, entertainment reporter, who was in court today. Tell us what happened, Alan.
ALAN DUKE, ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR, CNN WIRE: Well, Lindsay was very calm and serene, it seemed, in the 20 minutes I sat near her, waiting for the judge to enter the courtroom for the hearing. And she never spoke a word during the entire thing. In fact, her lawyer hardly said anything because the judge was talking.
And what the judge said was Lindsay Lohan is going to jail until October 22nd, when there`ll be a hearing on her probation revocation issue. Preliminary revocation was imposed today.
Now, we understand -- we`ve been told that Shawn Chapman Holley, her defense lawyer, has since been in the judge`s chambers, appealing for bail for Lindsay. But that has not come through. So Lindsay is sitting in the jail tonight in Los Angeles County.
COSBY: And Alexis Tereszcuk with Radaronline, I understand that when her attorney said, Can we talk about bail, the first reaction -- I love this line! -- the judge said "Nope."
ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE.COM: Yes. Exactly. He only had one word, "Nope." He did not want to hear it. But since then, her lawyer, Shawn Chapman Holley, she, as Alan said, went to him and asked to have a discussion about the bail. He said no again, so she`s actually filed an appeal. It`s going to go up before a panel of three judges. It has nothing to do with Judge Fox. And she`s hoping to get Lindsay out before October 22nd. But her chances do not look good. She`s here in this jail where I am, and I think that she`s going to be here for a while.
COSBY: Let`s go to Lieutenant Steven Rogers. He`s with the Nutley, New Jersey, Police Department. Sounds like this judge is just fed up with her, right?
DET. LT. STEVEN ROGERS, NUTLEY, NJ, POLICE DEPARTMENT: Well, Rita, I`m sure he feels like many of us feel. There`s something missing in today`s vocabulary, especially in her vocabulary. It`s called accountability and responsibility. She`s going to be responsible for her actions and she`s going to be held accountable for those actions.
COSBY: Well, and Jeffrey Gardere, psychologist, my old friend -- Jeffrey, when you hear this, she doesn`t get it. She just got out of rehab. She spent 13 days in jail, 23 days in rehab. What more does this woman want?
JEFF GARDERE, PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, she`s got to stop being in designer rehab, Rita, which is what she`s done. When you`re going in...
COSBY: Love the line! That`s a great one. You`re right, it`s this couture designer, I`m a celebrity, I can do whatever I want.
GARDERE: Absolutely. And what you end up doing is hurting yourself because you`re not getting the full extent of the treatment that you need, and that`s what she needs right now. And this judge was right on to say no, which is something that she never hears from anyone.
COSBY: And Darryl Cohen, defense attorney, this judge warned her. He said, Look, if there`s any violation, you`re going for a month behind bars. He meant what he said.
DARRYL COHEN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I think he did exactly what he should`ve done. Lindsay now needs to be known as Lindsay lost or Lindsay loser. But she needs to be there. And if she`s not going to be incarcerated, then what good is the judge doing? What good is the court system? I agree, designer rehab. It doesn`t get it. She has to get some mental rehab and she`s got to do it for herself.
COSBY: You bet. Joey Jackson, also a defense attorney, you know what`s amazing? She had to basically, quote, "stay clean," not do any violations until November 1st. It wasn`t that long ago! I mean, it wasn`t, like, OK, you`ve got to stay clean for 10 years. It`s November 1st. She can`t handle herself!
JOEY JACKSON, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Now, this is true. Rita, always a pleasure to see you. Look, the fact, though, is that bail was not given, bail was not set. We have something called an 8th Amendment. There is a Constitution in this country. She`s not a violent criminal. She`s not a murderer. I think her appeal will be successful. This is an 8th Amendment violation. It`s also a 14th Amendment violation because if she was someone beyond Lindsay Lohan, she would`ve gotten bail.
COSBY: You know, Ken Seeley, founder of Intervention911.com, this judge even allowed her to go to Fashion Week. In fact, her dad criticized that saying -- you know, opened the door by doing that. Did she get too -- maybe too much of a leash?
KEN SEELEY, INTERVENTION911.COM: Yes, she should`ve never been out there in the public. She should have been going to meetings and working a program of recovery. And I think this judge did the right thing. I think what needs to happen for Lindsay is she needs to do six months in the Salvation Army. It`s a great treatment facility. They save a lot of people`s lives. But as your other guest said, it`s not a plush rehab. It`s zero tolerance. You do what they say, or you suffer the consequences.
COSBY: But Ken, what happened to her last time? She just got out of rehab. What happened to her?
SEELEY: Yes, she wasn`t in the Salvation Army. The Salvation Army has zero tolerance. You`re either in recovery or you`re not in recovery. And if you`re not, they ask you to leave. And if she`s asked to leave, she should go back to jail.
COSBY: Let`s go to Shana from Louisiana, who`s on the line. Shana, what`s your question tonight?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Rita. I want to know, do you actually think that Lindsay will get anymore time when she goes back to jail (INAUDIBLE) because it`s a shame how the judges just give these celebrities a slap on the wrist when they`re caught with drugs.
COSBY: You know what? You bring up a great point, Shana. It is time and time again. It`s like a revolving door. And Joey Jackson, defense attorney, when you look at her rap sheet, you know, this is just sort of the and out of -- it`s incredible! I got a list from the producers. It`s a couple pages long! And that`s just 2007!
JACKSON: You know, you`re right, Rita. It is most unfortunate. There is celebrity justice here.
COSBY: Yes.
JACKSON: But you know, we all have to look at this and say, Look, does she deserve bail? She does deserve bail. If she wants to put up a piece of her property or dedicate a piece of her wealth to ensure her return to court, she will be able to do that. And I think the appellate panel will sustain that and allow her to do it. But will she get time on the merits when she comes back? You bet she will, Rita.
COSBY: You know, Dr. Susan Evans, chief of dermatology, Skincare Physicians, Beverly Hills, you`re a doctor and you`ve covered a lot of the medical issues. You know, when you hear those things...
DR. SUSAN EVANS, DERMATOLOGIST: I have, Rita.
COSBY: You know, and this woman, say she gets out on bail and then she`s out roaming freely. What message does that send to her?
EVANS: Well, the message is that it`s OK to do this. And I think we should all look at this...
COSBY: But that`s -- but that`s my...
EVANS: ... that cocaine is a very serious...
COSBY: Doctor, I don`t think -- I understand the issue of should she have been offered bail -- this woman can pay her way out. But what does -- what does -- how does that help her?
EVANS: Well, you know, cocaine is a serious drug...
COSBY: Sure is!
EVANS: ... and it`s a real epidemic. You know, the National Institute of Drug Abuse says 72,000 children have used this before they`re age -- after age 12. So it`s a real thing and she probably needs that really to be addressed because it could be a real addiction that she can`t stop on her own.
COSBY: And by the way, her father, not that he`s the voice of sanity, but he is even saying she should be in rehab. For some reason, he now seems like the moral voice of all this. But he now is sounding like he`s got some good advice.
Let`s go to Monica from Indiana who`s on the line. What`s your question, Monica?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Miss Rita. I would like to know when they are going to stop treating this girl as an addict and treat her as a criminal and throw her butt in jail. Cocaine is not prescribed. And therefore, that should not be part of this factor. It should be the fact that cocaine is a criminal event. And she should be thrown back in jail for it.
COSBY: Lieutenant Steven Rogers, I think Monica brings up a good point. Cocaine is serious, serious stuff. And if you look at her, this is clearly a woman who has a problem. And in fact, one of the things where she got off, there was a hit-and-run, there was a report where she hit a baby carriage. This is dangerous.
ROGERS: As I said, accountability and responsibility. Look, Rita, we as police officers deal with this every day. These judges got to get tough. Jail time is part of the answer.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lindsay was put in handcuffs.
LOHAN: This is insane.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She showed no emotion. This actress did not cry. She did not say anything.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She has a lot of anger.
LOHAN: I know they`re going to take my picture.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Following Lindsay Lohan as she heads to Lynnwood jail.
LOHAN: I have so much fun when they chase me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lindsay Lohan beginning to serve out that jail sentence.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She went to jail?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, she did.
LOHAN: We`ll see what happens.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You heard the handcuffs clicking. I think Lindsay Lohan -- he thought she was very composed. I thought she was in shock.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You could only hear the handcuffs being snapped.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t think the judge had any other option. He warned her this would happen if she screwed up.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The judge made it clear, You fail one drug test, you`re going back to jail.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jail was not a rock bottom for her last time, so I don`t believe it will be this time.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lindsay turned around. Her mom was seated right behind her. She was smiling. She gave her mom a thumbs-up before the judge went in. I think Lindsay was confident that she was going home today.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Does she need rehab? Absolutely. Does she need rehab for a long time? Absolutely. At least three months to six months sober living.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s got no one to blame but herself.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Three years later, she still has not been able to get it together.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She gets out of jail early, she gets out of rehab early, and she`s right back in the spotlight, right where all the trouble began.
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COSBY: And Lindsay Lohan getting thrown in the slammer for one month after already, she just got out, remember, everybody, from jail and also from rehab. Now she violated that. She tested positive for what`s being reported as cocaine.
Let`s go to Alexis Tereszcuk from Radaronline with this breaking news. You know, I got to ask you, she looked like a fashionista in court today. These celebrities do not get it. It`s like this appearance for them. This is like another movie for them.
TERESZCUK: It absolutely is. And I think they sometimes tell you should maybe wear navy blue or a suit to court. Not Lindsay Lohan. She started off with $1,200 shoes. Those (INAUDIBLE) that she was wearing are $1,200.
COSBY: Wow!
TERESZCUK: Her mom actually took them out of -- yes. They`re really expensive. They`re very fancy shoes. So her mom actually took them out of the courthouse with her. Lindsay wasn`t allowed to wear them into Lynnwood.
She had on a lovely little skirt, a kind of a sheer black blouse and a long jacket. She kept her hands in her pockets in the beginning when she first got out of the car and walked into court. But as you saw, she raised her hands as she went through security, which you don`t really have to do, but Lindsay did. And then she was put into an orange jumpsuit when she checked into Lynnwood. So that`s what`s going to be her uniform for the next 28 days or so.
COSBY: And Lieutenant Steven Rogers with the Nutley, New Jersey, Police Department, she also had some new jewelry on, handcuffs too, as well. What`s life going to be like for her behind bars again?
ROGERS: Well, Rita, one thing, what`s lost in this conversation, we went through her fashion. But you know, she through her criminal act is financing drug operations. She`s paying for drugs. And these drug dealers are buying more drugs to feed more young people. So you know what? As the other guest said, I hope this isn`t a celebrity rehab. I hope it`s going to be tough. And that`s the only way we`re going to get through, is get tough.
COSBY: And you know what makes me sick? Apparently, when she tweeted, guys, and admitted that she had failed this drug test -- she did that, you know, a few days ago, whatever. She tweets, right? But now it`s coming out through "US Weekly" that it was her assistants who were helping with the tweets. And at the time, Lindsay herself was drinking Jack Daniel`s and Coca-Cola at the time (INAUDIBLE) she was really taking it seriously, Jeffrey Gardere. I mean, this is just disgusting!
GARDERE: Well, it is. There`s a saying for people who are working with that. It`s people, places, and things, all of those things that keep people in that lifestyle of being a drug addict. And until she goes to jail and stays for a significant amount of time where she`s getting help, until she gets aftercare, until she`s in some sort of drug treatment that is for several months, she will continue to be rewarded for this.
We have an old saying in Brooklyn, Don`t hate the player, hate the game. Bottom line is, the media reinforces a lot of that behavior because the more she misbehaves, the more she`s in the public eye, but she`s only hurting herself.
COSBY: And by the way, I was born in Brooklyn, so I like that phrase, Jeffrey.
GARDERE: All right, Rita.
COSBY: Let`s go to Barbara from Florida who`s on the line. Barbara?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, Rita.
COSBY: Hello, there. What`s your question tonight?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have a problem. I don`t understand how come Lindsay`s getting jail time, while Paris was caught with cocaine and she`s walking around. She`s got just as bad of a problem as Lindsay does, if not worse.
COSBY: Well you know what, Barbara? That`s a very good question. Let`s go to -- let`s go to Darryl Cohen, defense attorney, for that one. Darryl, if you look, I think the rap sheet`s a little longer on Lindsay, and she was specifically told any violation, one month.
COHEN: Well, I think we`re talking two different things. Number one, Paris is not exactly a shining star, was incarcerated, but then she was released. She was given probation. And as long as she handles it, she`s OK. Lindsay has -- was sentenced to jail, allowed to serve it on probation, failed it once, failed it twice. She put herself in jail, not the judge. She did it.
COSBY: And everybody, to tonight`s "Case Alert." Knoxville police are searching for a 13-year-old girl kidnapped by a convicted felon from her own school, Caitlyn Shannon last seen with 46-year-old Michael Crockett on September 20th at Holsten (ph) Middle School. If you have any information, call the Knox County Sheriff`s Department at 865-215-2243.
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LOHAN: Hey, how are you?
How are you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Cocaine.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Drug and alcohol testing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The judge just really threw the book at her.
LOHAN: People say, You go out too much.
I`m just a normal girl.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re not allowed to drink any alcohol, random drug testing.
LOHAN: I love this!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: SCRAM device.
LOHAN: This is insane.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you still taking drugs?
LOHAN: I`m healthy and I`m not an idiot.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She admits to failing two drug tests.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lindsay Lohan is back behind bars.
LOHAN: I always have to take responsibility for my own actions.
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COSBY: No celebrity treatment for you, Lindsay Lohan. Breaking news tonight, Lindsay taken in handcuffs from the courtroom and will spend 30 days behind bars.
Let`s go, if we could, to Alan Duke, who was in court today. He`s the entertainment editor with CNN.com. Alan, I understand she really didn`t see this coming because she had, what, her bail bondsman with her, part of her entourage?
DUKE: They were prepared to post bail, but of course, she didn`t even get that opportunity. One real indication that she didn`t see it coming and Shawn Chapman Holley, her lawyer, didn`t is when the judge was setting a date for the probation revocation hearing, he suggested October 22nd. Holley said, Well, why don`t we make it October 29th? That might be more convenient for the prosecutor. And the judge said, Ms. Holley, I think your client really wants it on the 22nd, not the 29th. That was the first hint that she would have been in jail until the hearing, and of course, she wouldn`t want to wait an extra week.
COSBY: And by the way, she`s been having a lot of fun. Some of the video you`re seeing here is of Lindsay Lohan shopping yesterday. This is from Hollywood.TV. Again, shopping yesterday, seeming to have a good old time. Maybe she was buying her outfit for court. Who knows.
Let`s go to Benay from New York, who`s on the line. Benay, what`s your question tonight?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Rita.
COSBY: Hi.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How are you?
COSBY: Good.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Good. I`d like to ask, no matter what shape Lindsay was in, wouldn`t she have had to have known that she would fail the drug test, and therefore, the reality is, is that she`s really not in denial and is actually making a desperate cry for help?
COSBY: And I wonder that, too, Benay. You know, by the way, that last picture that we just put up -- let`s go back to that, if we could -- she looks -- keep in mind, everybody, she`s 24 years old. In that picture that you saw of her in court just a few moments ago, she looks like she`s, like, three or four years older -- times older. She looks like she`s, like, in her 30s or 40s. It`s a hard 24 years old. If you go through -- look at these faces. I mean, this is a girl who clearly has had a very, very hard life. And we`re going to talk a lot more about it when we come back, everybody.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lindsay Lohan hauled off to jail.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s been sent to jail.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Behind bars.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s scared, as anyone would be.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Driving under the influence.
LOHAN: I wouldn`t be where I am without going through those ups and downs.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s the biggest misconception about Lindsay Lohan?
LINDSAY LOHAN: That I`m out all the time and I`m irresponsible. You know, I was going through a hard time.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The jail sentence that was the punishment.
LOHAN: Special treatment - I was working with children --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The party is over.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a blessing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s a drug addict, she needs help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s given 90 days, she`s let out in 13.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pled guilty to two counts of misdemeanor DUI.
LOHAN: Right now, it`s just all fun and games to me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She pled no contest to two counts of driving with a blood alcohol level of over 0.08. She also pled no contest to a reckless driving charge.
LOHAN: It`s so silly, who cares. You can`t help it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Rehab in the past hasn`t worked.
LOHAN: You don`t know any better.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She did go to rehab three times going back three years ago.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s an addict.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s no one`s fault. I hope it doesn`t happen again.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Troubled starlet.
LOHAN: I wouldn`t be where I am without going through those ups and downs. I wasn`t expecting any special treatment.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Preferential treatment. She`s a celebrity.
LOHAN: I`m sorry. OK. Now we have like everyone running in.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Going to accept responsibility.
LOHAN: It`s only going to be positive for me now.
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COSBY: But tonight, Lindsay Lohan is behind bars, thrown in handcuffs by the judge who said nope, I`m not going to listen to bail. You violated your probation, you go right to jail.
Let`s go to Alexis Tereszcuk with Radar Online. But Alexis, I`ve got to show up this screen. This is amazing. How many movies she has done?
She`s done a whole bunch and take a look at some of the money she`s brought in $7.5 million on "Just My Luck," "Mean Girls" $1 million, "Drama Queen" $1 million. The list goes on and on.
And there are reports I understand today, Alexis, that somehow she doesn`t have money to pay her attorneys, but she`s 24 years old, this is incredible.
TERESZCUK: Well, she`s also been supporting her entire family, her mother and her father, her sister, and her brother. She is the sole breadwinner in this family so she`s been paying for everybody`s lifestyle for years and she lives a fancy lifestyle.
I mean, she flies on private planes. She wears $1,200 shoes. She eats at the finest restaurants all over the world and she has just burned through her money. Not to mention what the addiction costs so she doesn`t have any money.
She`s been desperate for money for quite a long time. In fact, you know, she was probably really counting on the $1 million payout when she got out of rehab to sell her story and that hasn`t happened. She just -- at this point doesn`t have any way to generate income. She`s really in dire straits financially.
COSBY: Let`s go to Lynn from Virginia who`s on the line. Lynn, what`s your question tonight?
CALLER: Good evening, Rita. Thanks for taking my call. My question is, I`m calling from Commonwealth, Virginia and in this state, we have a program called "Drug Court" for drug offenders.
And you have to participate 18 to 24 months depending on your drug of choice. During that time, you have to report to a judge once a week and must pass every drug test. Is this something offered in the state of California for Lindsay? And would she be a candidate?
COSBY: Let`s go to Joey Jackson, are there alternatives for her like in the Commonwealth of Virginia?
JACKSON: You know, there are alternatives. There are plenty of alternatives and one of the unfortunate things in this case, Rita, is the judge allowed her the alternative.
They said, look, we`re going to let you out. We`re going to have a behavior modification program. We`re going to have you report.
COSBY: And Joey, lets her go to Fashion Week. Go have a good time and go have Jack Daniels while you`re texting and tweeting saying I`m sorry I got caught.
JACKSON: And therein lies the problem. Now she wouldn`t be in one of the traditional programs, of course, Rita, because she has the resources to have her own.
But while we`re on the point, I know everybody`s into vengeance and she should go to jail. But let me defend, the fact is, we`re talking about an addict. She`s an addict. She needs help. She needs treatment.
COSBY: But she`s a dangerous addict. One of the things, the reports she hit a baby stroller. Could you imagine? Let`s let her drive. Here you go, keep going.
JACKSON: You know, Rita. You have a great point, but that`s why she needs help. She is out of control and the only way she`s going to get that help is if we get her into a suitable treatment program so she could come to grips with reality.
COSBY: With jail, with jail. Maybe a little jail will give her reality, Joey.
JACKSON: A little punishment might do, but address that drug problem.
COSBY: I knew you`d concede with me, Joey. Let`s go to Michelle from Indiana. Michelle?
CALLER: Hi, Rita.
COSBY: Hi, what`s your question tonight?
CALLER: I was wondering, I noticed that she got the no bond until her probation hearing and I thought that was very fitting. Do you think when her attorneys file the appeal and the other three judges her celebrity status that she will get a bond?
COSBY: That`s a great question. Let`s go to Darrell Cohen, defense attorney. What do you think, Darrell? Is there a chance because her attorney`s saying, you know, this is not appropriate. She should have been considered for bail.
And my favorite line, of course, today everybody was when the judge was asked, could we consider, you know, bail, talk about it? He just said, nope. Even though I think there were a lot of people in that courtroom who stood up and applauded privately.
DARRELL COHEN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I would be applauding.
COSBY: Good for you, Darrell. Good for you.
COHEN: I think her lawyer is doing her a disservice. Her lawyer should be saying, Lindsay needs the time. Lindsay is sorry, your honor. Lindsay tells the court, thank you for incarcerating me.
I need to get it through my head and then on the 22nd of October, I suspect based on the judge`s comment that there`s a very good chance that he will allow her to be released provided she goes to the appropriate treatment.
I mean, people are forgetting, yes, she`s an addict, but she`s also committed a criminal violation and it`s a felony. And she is being -- before she was given star treatment. I think now the judge is going to bend over backwards to treat her the way he would treat anyone else.
COSBY: Absolutely.
COHEN: No one else would be allowed to do this twice. Once, you`re gone.
COSBY: You`re right. This is now time for tough love, tough face the justice, everybody. I agree. Speaking of which, in this "Vanity Fair" article, comes out in "Vanity Fair," she talks about basically what she sees for her future, doesn`t talk about rehab. What she talks about, Jeffrey Gardere, and here is how she wants to be on the A-list status of Hollywood again.
That her plans in the future are movies and how she can be on that A- list, what about being on the rehab list? What about getting yourself together? Best future plans, all she`s talking about is money. She doesn`t get it, Jeffrey.
GARDERE: No, she doesn`t get it and one of your previous callers asked the question about whether she`s in denial.
Well, I believe that she`s in denial about how serious her drug use is. Yes, she admits that she uses drugs, but she doesn`t realize that if she doesn`t get the proper help right now.
That all of these things that she wants to do in order to be an A- lister, they`re not going to happen because she`s going to be institutionalized or in jail or dead.
COSBY: Yes, you`re right and you`re right. People who care about her are going to give her tough, tough, tough treatment. No leeway. Let`s go to Nan from New York who`s on the line -- Nan.
CALLER: Thank you for letting me speak and my question is really more for the panel with the exception of a few. I`m a licensed psychotherapist. I`ve seen a lot of people with drug addiction, drug convictions and I don`t see them being allowed to go in and out of rehab, spend 13 days in jail.
All I hear about is that she needs rehab, she needs help, which I do understand. However, when do we -- when do we take a look at this and say she is everybody else. There are people that have done less than her that have spent more time in jail because they have less money.
COSBY: And Nan, you hit it on the head and especially with your psychotherapist background, I think you make some excellent points.
Let`s go, if we could to Lieutenant Steven Rogers. He`s with the Nutley New Jersey Police Department. You know, I think she makes a fantastic point. The average person -- this rap sheet is a mile long, it`s a revolving door.
DET. LT. STEVEN ROGERS, NUTLEY NJ POLICE DEPARTMENT; FORMER MEMBER, FBI JOINT TERRORISM TASK FORCE: Yes, Rita, and my friend Joey and I love him dearly. He`s a guest here tonight. Joey, the people aren`t looking for vengeance, they`re looking for fair justice.
And this caller makes a point. You know as well as I do if this was a child from Camden, New Jersey, or New York City, or Trenton, New Jersey or Newark, they`d be in the slammer and in the slammer to stay.
COSBY: Don`t you agree, Joey?
JACKSON: Steven, but look, the point is that she does have to be treated fairly with everybody else. But if you talk about fair treatment, I don`t know anybody else who would be remanded -- and she`s remanded because the judge knows she has the resources to get out and wanted to deny her that.
COSBY: And, Joey, the judge is fed up. That is clear, nope, I`m sick of this woman. I`ve seen her too many times, seen her rap sheet too many times.
Let`s go to Alexis Tereszcuk real quick. What is ahead for Lindsay? One of the things, there`s a movie coming out. She`s got "Inferno" this big film.
And I understand what the producers and directors are trying to get insurance, sort of ala Michael Jackson when they were worried about his health issues.
In case, she maybe not able to be on scene in Louisiana for the filming, maybe she may not be able to take part, she maybe behind bars, Alexis?
TERESZCUK: Yes, she was supposed to start filming October 1st. So as of right now she`s not going to make it. The producers of this --
COSBY: She may not make it at all given her track record, Alexis.
TERESZCUK: Yes, exactly. You`re exactly right. They`re pretty much - - they don`t know what to do. We`ve spoken with them a lot at Radar Online. They have just said, you know, they`ve been so kind and gracious to Lindsay. They want to wait for her, but just don`t know if they can.
COSBY: And everybody, Nancy and the twins have been on vacation this week. We want to show you some great pictures. Here are Lucy, John David, mommy, and daddy also enjoying the beach. There are the two cutie pies.
Nancy will be back on Monday and I love these great pictures. It looks like they are having a fantastic time. I`m so happy for Nancy. She works so hard and deserves a great vacation.
And congratulations, also to Nancy on the success of her brand new show, everybody, you`ve got to see it "Swift Justice" with Nancy Grace. If you have not seen it, make sure you tune in. It is awesome. Check your local listings for details, everyone.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ronald Cummings.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want my daughter to come home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Faced a maximum of 70 years behind bars for selling prescription drugs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He got 15 years in prison.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ronald`s family is not as good as everyone thinks they are.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They all take pills, they all do --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was led out in handcuffs and chains.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His attorneys cut a deal.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Set a plea deal in exchange for his testimony against Croslin and her brothers.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t know where she is. I keep hoping and praying my baby comes home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Cummings pleaded guilty to three of the five drug cases --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I find out what happened to my young, it doesn`t matter to me --
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COSBY: And I`m Rita Cosby in for Nancy Grace. The mystery goes on surrounding the suspicious disappearance of a 5-year-old Florida girl, Haleigh Cummings.
One key witness after the next heading off to prison in a major drug trafficking bust and now the latest, and it`s a big move. It`s Haleigh`s own father.
For the latest breaking news, let`s go to Art Harris, investigative journalist of artharris.com. Art, what happened? What`s the latest?
ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST, ARTHARRIS.COM: Rita, Ronald Cummings got 15 years behind bars today in a plea agreement that was expected. He pled guilty to three counts -- he could`ve gotten up to 70 years and he is the latest domino to fall in this case.
It`s a drug case, a drug trafficking case, but law enforcement has been using him to try to turn his ex-wife, Misty Croslin into producing the information they say she has about the disappearance of his daughter, Haleigh.
COSBY: You know, let`s go to Joey Jackson, defense attorney. When you hear this information from Art and these new developments, Art was just saying he could`ve gotten 70 years, Joey, he got a bit less.
Are they trying to curry a little bit of favor with him? Maybe we`ll give you the lighter side if you help us with this?
JACKSON: You better believe it. Look, law enforcement has to use every tool at their disposal, Rita, in order to seek justice.
And at the end of the day, what are they looking to do? They`re looking to get answers to this little girl`s, beautiful girl`s disappearance.
There`s a difference between concurrent time and consecutive time. The judge wanted to he could`ve what we call stacked.
And that is on one offense given 15 years, add another 15 consecutive and another 15 consecutive, but they said, look, tell us what we need to know as the investigation develops and we`ll take care of you, and that`s exactly what they did negotiating this deal.
COSBY: Lieutenant Steven Rogers with the Nutley New Jersey Police Department, do you think, you know, on the outside Ron Cummings through his attorney is saying look, he`s said all he knows. Do you think privately maybe he`s helping a little bit on the side?
ROGERS: Well, I`m sure. I`m sure -
COSBY: I think so too, I think it`s all a facade. I don`t know, I`m not sure I`ve given everything. Come on.
ROGERS: That`s why a deal was made. I`m convinced of that. Law enforcement is going to unlock something or at least some of the answers to the questions they have through him, absolutely right.
COSBY: Let`s go to Brenda from West Virginia who is on the line. Brenda, what`s your question tonight?
CALLER: Yes. I wanted to know how Ron and Misty got involved with the undercover cop to begin with.
COSBY: That`s a great question. How this all began? Art Harris, investigative journalist, how did they get sort of caught in this whole melee?
HARRIS: Rita, I can tell you, a friend of a friend learned that they were selling drugs and suddenly he told law enforcement. His friend was the undercover cop who wound up setting them up.
They were pigeons, and they just came willingly because he was the buyer and they were caught on hours of videotape in the car and they just gave it up. They didn`t even need any witnesses for this case, Rita.
COSBY: You know, one of the other things, Art, I`ve got to ask you about this. I thought this was interesting. The attorney for Ron Cummings` dad, you asked him, does Ron think Misty, his ex-wife is a killer, is tied to the disappearance of Haleigh? And what did he say to you?
HARRIS: All he said was that he thinks she was involved and that she holds the key to what happened to Haleigh. But he wouldn`t go that far.
COSBY: You know, when you hear that, Darrell Cohen, defense attorney, she holds the key and then he continues to say that. You`re a smart man, Darrell. What is that saying to you?
COHEN: It tells me she knows a lot more than what she wants to say and they`re going their little squeeze trick and do the little squeeze trick and at some point, they`re going to squeeze it out of her. Because if they don`t, they don`t win and we`re going to win, we`re going to find out what happened.
COSBY: Go ahead.
GARDERE: I can tell you that law enforcement has got her just where they want her. This was their strategy.
COSBY: Absolutely.
GARDERE: To isolate her, to put her on the rocks.
COSBY: This is the dream right now, exactly.
GARDERE: They`ve got her so desperate she started dealing drugs, now they`ve got her facing possibly 240 years. She`s going to be facing her sentencing next month.
But right now, they have this leverage. Her lawyer says she`s told all she knows, that she`s been squeezed harder than a Florida orange until only pulp is left, they say pulp fiction.
COSBY: Jeffrey Gardere -- I love those hard to squeeze more than a Florida orange, maybe a grapefruit of a tangerine. She`s got her sentencing coming up. Psychologically, when you know that time is coming, that`s going to have an effect on her too.
GARDERE: Absolutely, I think she`s going to slowly start to crack. We`ve already seen it in some of the clips we`ve played on this show before. I think at this point she knows that Ron is going to turn over on her and I agree with your other guests.
I really do believe that Ron knows that she`s involved, maybe she didn`t do the deed, but she holds the key. She has the information. He has a love/hate relationship with her and it`s going to turn into full hate.
COSBY: And everybody, to tonight`s CNN Heroes.
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RICKY LAKE: Hi, I`m Ricky Lake. For the last two years, I have had the honor helping to recognize the great works of everyday people changing the world at "CNN Heroes," an all-star tribute.
As a supporter of 2008 Top Ten CNN Hero Marie Desilva and the Jack Randa Foundation, I am committed to building schools, providing education, and preventing AIDS in Malawi, and I am thrilled to help CNN introduce one of this year`s Top Ten honorees. Now more than ever the world needs heroes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We all leave prison saying I`m going to get my life on track, and you end up getting off a bus downtown Los Angeles, skid row. Many times you don`t even make it out of the skid row area before you`re caught up into that cycle again.
My name is Susan Burton. After my son died I used drugs. I went to prison six times. Finally, I found rehab and I thought I can help women come home from prison. I pick them up, bring them back to the house.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here are some jeans.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She offer you a warm bed, food. Like a real family. She made me want to change my life.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you proud of me, Miss Burton?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sure. You came a long way.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is life. That`s what it`s all about.
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COSBY: I`m Rita Cosby in for Nancy Grace. And now let`s take a look back at the stories making headlines this week.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Paris Hilton.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Paris Hilton.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Paris!
PARIS HILTON: Yes, your honor. I hope that I`m an example to other young people when they make decisions.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is the third time that Paris has been busted this year in some sort of drug-related activity.
HILTON: This is so exciting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What`s the problem there?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police discovered two children dead inside --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is the child awake right now?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It doesn`t look like it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s already -- it`s already dead. It stopped breathing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just horrifying.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`ve seen my baby laying in the bed and she was really pale and blue.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She saw her 2-year-old daughter, Zaida White near death in her co-worker`s apartment. An 11-year-old and her mother were babysitting her daughter.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The girl never said nothing about CPR. When I kept asking her she said -- she said she put her back in the bed and gave her apple juice and that was it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Medical examiner said she died from trauma to her head, torso, and buttocks.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Her mom is locked up.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Arrested.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Claims she gave her baby to a total stranger.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The 19-year-old mother.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Taken into custody.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`ve collected a lot of evidence.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The crime scene technician removed a number of paper sacks and baby toys. A police cadaver dog hit on a scent.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The scent of death.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bombshell tonight.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The attack itself did not occur as she had previously reported.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was all a hoax.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She did it to herself.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She lied.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She did this to get attention.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She wanted a face job and this was her way to get free plastic surgery.
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COSBY: And tonight, everybody, let`s stop to remember Army Staff Sergeant Justin Vasquez, 26, from Rocky Ford, Colorado. He was killed in Iraq on a second tour of duty. He was awarded the Bronze Star, Purple Heart, and Army Commendation Medal. A master at rappelling, he also loved camping, fishing, snowboarding, and also water sports.
He leaves behind parents Vicki and Tino, stepfather Kevin, his sisters Jennifer and Johnica. Widow Riley and son Justin. Justin Vasquez, an American Hero.
And I want to congratulate the hero in my life, my dad. This Monday in Columbia, South Carolina, he will be receiving a special award from the Medal of Honor Convention Committee for his courage and bravery as a teenage resistance fighter against the Nazis in World War II.
Dad, I am so very proud of you. And also a big shout out to American airlines, which does so much to help our veterans. And also a big happy birthday to one of the stars here on Nancy Grace, there he is, Greg, a University of Florida gator.
He loves Ft. Lauderdale, peanut butter, and also listening to R&B star Monica. Happy birthday, Greg and thanks to all of you, all of our guests, but especially to all of you at home for being with us tonight. See you tomorrow night, everybody and have a fantastic weekend.
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