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Piers Morgan Live
Interviews with Jackie & Joan Collins; Cast of 'Take Me Home Tonight'
Aired March 05, 2011 - 21:00 ET
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PIERS MORGAN, HOST: Tonight, Hollywood at its most glamorous. She's a sex symbol, screen diva, and it's always a pleasure to see her.
JOAN COLLINS, ACTOR: Well, thank you, Piers. And it's lovely to see you too.
MORGAN: And she turned superstar secrets into stories you just can't put down.
JACKIE COLLINS, AUTHOR: I know all of Hollywood's secrets, Piers, including yours.
MORGAN: Joan and Jackie Collins together for the first time ever on television.
JACKIE COLLINS: This is going to be quite a night, I can promise you that.
TOPHER GRACE, "TAKE ME HOME TONIGHT": I'm -- I don't know, what am I doing? Here's the thing, you were my high school crush. I don't see how it can get any worse.
MORGAN: Also tonight, Hollywood's rising stars, Topher Grace, Anna Farris, and Teresa Palmer, the cast of "Take Me Home Tonight."
How have you avoided becoming Charlie Sheen?
GRACE: Oh, you just don't know. I'm just very good at hiding it. I'm high as a kite right now.
(LAUGHTER)
MORGAN: This is "PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT."
Joan and Jackie Collins have never, I repeat, never done a television interview together. But tonight I'm going to create history and bring them together on television.
Ladies, how have you managed to avoid ever doing an interview together?
JACKIE COLLINS: I guess we're just clever in that way. And we wanted to stay friends, you know?
JOAN COLLINS: Nobody has ever asked us, Piers.
MORGAN: No, that can't be true.
JOAN COLLINS: Well, I'm -- I'm not kidding. Have you ever been asked to do a -- maybe on "Good Morning England" once, I think. But we've never been in the same place and (INAUDIBLE) never anything. We love you so much -- well, I do. Jackie just met you.
MORGAN: Well, we're Twitter friends.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes. We're Twitter friends. I'm very jealous of your Twitter.
MORGAN: So, we fell in love on the Twitter, it's a different thing.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes, we did.
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, you're in love with him?
JACKIE COLLINS: I DM you all the time.
MORGAN: So, cyber love. Yes. Exactly.
JACKIE COLLINS: Cyber love. It's good (ph).
MORGAN: How -- sitting here together, how do you feel about doing a joint interview?
JACKIE COLLINS: Well, it's really fun. I mean, we've both said...
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
COLLINS: ... that we would have fun with it and we both like you. I think I like you. I'll let you know at the end of this.
JOAN COLLINS: So far so good.
MORGAN: I passed one test with Joan.
JACKIE COLLINS: Oh, you did?
MORGAN: We did an interview in England together. Yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: Oh, I -- I saw it and I thought it was so terrific.
MORGAN: Yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: I think you're doing a great job, actually. I've been watching all your interviews.
MORGAN: Thank you.
JACKIE COLLINS: I loved it when you asked Hugh Hefner's girlfriend, 23, Hugh Hefner, 83, and what did she see in him?
MORGAN: Yes. What did you make of that?
JOAN COLLINS: Twenty-three goes into 83 more than 83 goes into 23.
(LAUGHTER)
MORGAN: I mean, both you ladies have had -- you know, you've experimented in the genre of the toy boys. And when you see...
JOAN COLLINS: Oh.
MORGAN: When you see Hefner doing his thing, what do you think?
JOAN COLLINS: What do I think? Well, I haven't seen Hefner doing his thing. I don't think I would like to see that.
MORGAN: Well, he's about to marry a 23-year-old girl.
JOAN COLLINS: OK. Good for him.
MORGAN: You think so?
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. I think so. I mean, but she'll get all the money.
MORGAN: Does age matter anymore? Does anyone care, do you think?
JACKIE COLLINS: No. I don't think anybody does.
(CROSSTALK)
JOAN COLLINS: Age is unimportant unless you're a bottle of wine. I think. I mean, look at me! Fabulous!
MORGAN: Well, you do look fabulous.
JOAN COLLINS: Look at us. Yes.
MORGAN: You both look absolutely fabulous.
JOAN COLLINS: Well, we have absolutely beautiful parents. You know? We're very lucky.
MORGAN: Is that what it is, good genes?
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. Good genes.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes, but also a lot of makeup.
(LAUGHTER)
MORGAN: And also, I know your trick, I don't know if you do the same thing. JOAN COLLINS: What?
MORGAN: You have not exposed your face to the sun in how long?
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, my God, since I was 20. In 1902. And...
MORGAN: And you literally -- literally, you haven't.
JOAN COLLINS: No. I wear hats all the time. You can never catch me outdoors in rain, shine, whatever, without a hat and I always wear the base and I always wear the -- you know, high protection.
Jackie doesn't go in the sun at all.
MORGAN: Really?
JACKIE COLLINS: That's because I'm at my computer writing all the time.
MORGAN: Oh.
JACKIE COLLINS: Hand-writing.
MORGAN: But both of you, I mean, you look amazing. I'm not going to say how old you are. But people can find out and they'll be amazed..
JACKIE COLLINS: Well I know, yes. Well, yes.
MORGAN: I mean, you look about 20 years younger, the pair of you.
JOAN COLLINS: Thank you.
JACKIE COLLINS: When I -- when I came to Hollywood, you know, I came from London, like you, and you see the sun, you know, at 11 o'clock in the morning, I was out by my pool and I had this amazing sun tan for years on end.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes, you did.
JACKIE COLLINS: And then one day I just got bored with it and I thought, you know, this is too boring. I'm writhing -- sweat is dripping off me, I'm having to throw myself in the pool all the time. And I thought, you know, this is not good. I'm going to, you know, forget about the sun and forget about a sun tan.
MORGAN: Now, I want to clear one thing up because there are lots of rumors that -- that over time, as siblings do, you've had your ups and downs as sisters.
I mean, have you had any real cataclysmic fallings out?
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, no, no, no, no. But, you know, when you're brought up together you always have little arguments when you were children. And, I mean, no, I see my own children. They have little discussions and disagreements. But I don't think we've done it any more than anybody else does.
But I think one of the things is that during the time that I was doing "Dynasty" and Jackie was here, I was married to somebody that -- well, you didn't like him.
MORGAN: Which one was that?
JOAN COLLINS: And he didn't like you.
JACKIE COLLINS: Well, I can't remember there have been so many.
JOAN COLLINS: The Swede. And...
(LAUGHTER)
MORGAN: The Swede, we don't mention.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes, the Swede, no, we don't mention that.
MORGAN: Yes.
JOAN COLLINS: And ...
MORGAN: He was number three, right?
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
(LAUGHTER)
JOAN COLLINS: That's right.
MORGAN: You've been married five times.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: And you were married twice.
JACKIE COLLINS: I've been married twice.
MORGAN: And divorced twice.
JACKIE COLLINS: Engaged -- no. I was divorced once, only my first husband, unfortunately, was into drugs and so at a very young age I had got to live with a drug addict so I knew what it was all about.
My second husband died of prostate cancer after we'd been very happily married for 22 years.
MORGAN: Right.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: And you got engaged...
JACKIE COLLINS: And he was a fantastic guy. MORGAN: Yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: He ran all the clubs in London.
MORGAN: Yes, I remember him. I remember him well. Yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: Sully's (ph), the Ad-Lib (ph), Transfer (ph), all his clubs.
MORGAN: Yes, I remember.
JACKIE COLLINS: So I used to sit there every night gaining all this fantastic research as I watched everybody at play.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. He was. He was a wonderful man, really, fantastic.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes.
JOAN COLLINS: But I've always been, you know, sort of a serial bride, never a mattress.
(LAUGHTER)
JACKIE COLLINS: That's a really good turn of phrase.
MORGAN: That's a great line.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. It should be on a quiz show, shouldn't it? Yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes. It was good.
MORGAN: What were you like together when you were young sisters?
JACKIE COLLINS: Well, I used to write and Joan used to illustrate. She was a wonderful drawer and she would draw these fantastic figures and so I would make up a story around these figures that she would draw. It was great.
MORGAN: And is that why you sort of developed the creative writing?
JACKIE COLLINS: I guess I did. And she has always been a wonderful designer.
JOAN COLLINS: Well, I wanted to be a dress designer. I didn't know if I wanted to be a dress designer or an actress or a detective. So, you know, I was doing these wonderful sort of 1950s, '60s costumes and they would be -- and Jackie would write stories about them. I forgot about that.
You must have that somewhere.
JACKIE COLLINS: I know I've got them somewhere. JOAN COLLINS: There were so many. And of course, in those days, children used to amuse themselves. They didn't have all of this to do all the time.
MORGAN: What were you -- what were your parents like?
JOAN COLLINS: Well, our parents were very, very different from each other. Our mother was a complete -- she was a homebody. She looked after us. She had no ambition to be anything except a good wife and a good mother, caring about our father.
Our father was strict, dictatorial. He was from another age. He was -- I mean, I don't think I was ever hugged by my father.
Were you?
JACKIE COLLINS: Hence the five husbands.
(LAUGHTER)
JACKIE COLLINS: She was making up for lost time. But he was a bit of a male chauvinist.
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, a bit? Hello!
JACKIE COLLINS: You know, yes. He used to have these card games every Friday night and my mother would take in a trolley of food and I would hide under the trolley and I could listen to all of these men talking. And they were very -- you know, women were either mothers, sisters, daughters, or they were whores and hookers.
And it was so...
MORGAN: So a pretty sexist kind of environment.
JACKIE COLLINS: Very sexist.
(CROSSTALK)
JOAN COLLINS: ...all the ideas for a book.
JACKIE COLLINS: Exactly. Yes.
MORGAN: Where do you get the glamour from? You both are very glamorous and always have been.
JACKIE COLLINS: Well, Joan came to Hollywood, right? And I was thrown out of school. So when I was thrown out of school, my parents said to me, reform school or Hollywood. And I thought for a few minutes and I said, you know what, I think I'll take Hollywood.
Joan met me at the airport and said, here's the keys to the car. Learn to drive. Here's the apartment. I'm off on location. She was off on some glamorous location...
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. JACKIE COLLINS: ... with Harry Belafonte.
MORGAN: But then in a few years, you were dating Warren Beatty. You were dating Marlon Brando. I mean, you didn't do badly for a couple of girls from England.
JOAN COLLINS: Excuse me, but when -- I'm sorry, I think I had better set something straight. When I met Warren, he was a totally unknown actor. Nobody knew who he was. And there was, oh, Warren, but, you know, nobody...
MORGAN: So he was dating Joan Collins...
JOAN COLLINS: That's it. Thank you...
MORGAN: ... is the way to put it, right?
JOAN COLLINS: ... very much.
MORGAN: Is that -- is that the wrong way -- that's the right way around, right?
JOAN COLLINS: That is the right way 'round.
MORGAN: Yes, of course.
JACKIE COLLINS: And so the juvenile delinquent arrives in town, being me, 15, and I go to the Chateau Monmartre and she has this beautiful suite there. And I thought, oh, this is going to be so nice, I'm going to be sleeping in here. And she says to me, oh, you're going to be swapping beds with Warren. He's right up at the top in this teeny little attic room.
And so every night I would go up to the attic and he would come down to the suite.
(CROSSTALK)
JACKIE COLLINS: We go way back with Warren.
MORGAN: And do you remember when Jackie went out with Marlon Brando?
JOAN COLLINS: Yes, I do, actually. Because I was at the party where he -- where she -- he pulled her.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes. But I'm going to talk about that in my autobiography.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes, so, I mean...
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: I mean, look, we've got all night -- we've got all night, Jackie, I mean, come on.
You and Marlon?
JOAN COLLINS: Yes, well...
JACKIE COLLINS: When he was thin, too.
JOAN COLLINS: When you came up, I was hanging out with Marlon Brando, Paul Newman, Stewart Stern, who was a great writer, Natalie Wood...
(CROSSTALK)
JOAN COLLINS: Nobody knows who he is. Robert Wagner...
(LAUGHTER)
JACKIE COLLINS: The love of her life.
MORGAN: Damning.
JOAN COLLINS: It was not. It was not.
MORGAN: Really?
JOAN COLLINS: No, no. She liked to think that. The love of my life...
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: This is the great advantage of having you both on the estate.
(CROSSTALK)
JACKIE COLLINS: ... Percy. I have to say about Percy, her current husband, he is fantastic.
JOAN COLLINS: Current and only, yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: Current and only.
MORGAN: I think current is the wrong word to use, Jackie.
JACKIE COLLINS: Right.
MORGAN: Current implies ...
JACKIE COLLINS: Can you tell that I'm a writer?
MORGAN: ... a certain temporary nature to the relationship that I don't think Joan would like you to convey.
JACKIE COLLINS: Her -- her forever husband. Her forever husband. Percy is the greatest. I believe...
(CROSSTALK) MORGAN: We're going to come to Percy. I want to dwell for a moment, though, on this amazing lifestyle that you two young English girls were having together, because it'd be the stuff of fantasy, isn't it? You're in Hollywood. You're dating Warren Beatty, Marlon Brando, I mean, who do you think, collectively, was the greatest heartthrob of them all -- male heartthrob in Hollywood? Who was the one?
JOAN COLLINS: What, for me?
MORGAN: Yes.
JOAN COLLINS: I mean, male heartthrob that I fell in love with? No. I've never -- I've never fallen for any actor. Only Warren...
MORGAN: Well, maybe, you looked at him and thought, you are...
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, well, Paul Newman, absolutely.
MORGAN: Paul Newman?
JOAN COLLINS: And such a nice, sweet, down-to-earth person. But, you know, so good-looking and so nice and he wanted me to be in one of his -- he was bringing something out called Virgin Salad Dressing ...
MORGAN: That's right.
JOAN COLLINS: ... and he wanted me to be the face of it. And I said, now look, I'm not a virgin.
MORGAN: Because he made a fortune with the stuff.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes, and he gave it all, all, all to charity.
MORGAN: Who would your choice be?
JACKIE COLLINS: Well, I was very young, but I would skulk around these parties and watch people. And I remember seeing Robert Mitchum at a party and I thought, oh my God, he was such a bad...
MORGAN: Because he was huge, right?
JACKIE COLLINS: ... he was such a bad ass.
MORGAN: Yes. Yes.
JOAN COLLINS: He loved you.
JACKIE COLLINS: That's what I loved about him.
JOAN COLLINS: He loved you. He loved you. When I was doing a picture with him...
JACKIE COLLINS: That's because I was 15.
(LAUGHTER)
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. In the sound -- in Jamaica, and he was on a nearby island, and he kept on sending messages over to me about, is your kid sister coming over? I'd like to meet your kid sister. He said worse things than that but I can't...
(CROSSTALK)
JOAN COLLINS: ... family show.
MORGAN: I mean, you trot these stories out. But they're amazing stories. Amazing names that you were hanging out...
JACKIE COLLINS: Oh, we have some good ones.
MORGAN: ... then.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes, yes.
MORGAN: What a life you two have had, haven't you?
We're going to have a quick break. When we come back, I want to talk to you about a slightly more contentious issue. And that is, how to stay young in Hollywood, (INAUDIBLE) plastic surgery.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JACKIE COLLINS: OK. I know what she's going to do. Don't try this one at home. Just sit back and enjoy Joan showing off once again.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JOAN COLLINS: What am I doing, putting my arm up?
MORGAN: Well, that was a clip from your 1994 workout video.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: And I've got to ask you, can you still do that?
JOAN COLLINS: What, do the splits?
MORGAN: Yes.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. But not in this dress.
MORGAN: Not now, but you can still do that.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. I work out every other day.
MORGAN: Do you?
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. JACKIE COLLINS: Didn't you just do them in a pantomime? Didn't you do the splits?
JOAN COLLINS: No, I decided not to do them, yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: Or on your one-woman show.
JOAN COLLINS: In the one-woman show I did it...
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes, did it in New York.
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: Tell me, what is the art -- we've discussed obviously not during the summer what is the art of staying young in Hollywood? Because the pressure is so unbearable, isn't it?
JOAN COLLINS: Well, no, I don't think so, because I don't -- first of all, I think that staying -- trying to look young is ridiculous. Because there's always going to be younger, better- looking, richer people. I think you have to be in yourself, really happy about the way you look.
And I'd rather stay good-looking and look older than look -- try to look young because sometimes you see these women and they're skin and bone and then you see their little tiny waist, little tiny hips, and then you look at their face and it's a woman of, you know, 65 or 70.
And I don't like that look. I'd rather look good and look, you know, a few years younger than I am. All of that Botox and stuff in your face, there are some disastrous faces in this town.
MORGAN: Well, let me ask you...
JOAN COLLINS: Some disasters.
MORGAN: ...let's talk nip and tuck here. I mean, cut to the -- have either of you two ladies ever succumbed to the scalpel?
JOAN COLLINS: No.
JACKIE COLLINS: No.
JOAN COLLINS: We succumb to the makeup counter.
(LAUGHTER)
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes. I love the...
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: Why have you been able to resist it when so many others have fallen by the wayside?
JOAN COLLINS: Because we're needle-phobic. JACKIE COLLINS: And I think also it...
MORGAN: Are you really?
JOAN COLLINS: Well, I am, and she is, and our mother was. So we've inherited it.
JACKIE COLLINS: I think it's very much an English thing, you know? I don't think I could write the books that I write about Hollywood if I was actually born here and brought up in Beverly Hills. It's a whole different kind of mindset. You know?
And to me, staying young is waking up in the morning and have a passion for what you do. I have a passion for what I do. I love writing. I love writing my books. I write them all in longhand and it's something that I love. And I think that's very important in life. You have to have something you love.
You cannot be obsessed with the way you look.
MORGAN: When you were 49, Joan, you posed for Playboy.
JOAN COLLINS: Playboy.
MORGAN: I'm going to show you the picture. You look extraordinary. Not all of the pictures.
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, I was going to say..
MORGAN: But I mean, look at that. For 49, that's pretty spectacular.
JOAN COLLINS: Well, yes. Not really.
JACKIE COLLINS: You know, the most important thing a woman can have, and I say this to all my readers all the time and all my Twitter followers and stuff like that, is confidence. If a woman has confidence -- self-confidence, that's all she really needs in life, you know? You can do anything.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: My other motto is, girls can do anything.
JOAN COLLINS: Girls can do anything.
JACKIE COLLINS: And I truly believe that.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: Yes, but what you both have, you both have this kind of vitality, which in itself is very sexy for a man.
JOAN COLLINS: Energy.
MORGAN: Yes. JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: I look at you and I see healthy vitality, you know?
JOAN COLLINS: Well...
MORGAN: You're sort of a get-up-and-go ladies, aren't you?
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. I think that we eat...
MORGAN: Oh, get up (INAUDIBLE).
(LAUGHTER)
JOAN COLLINS: Get up and -- I think a lot of it has to do with genes...
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: So there you both are on Vanity Fair. That was a stunning picture.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes, that was the last thing we did together.
MORGAN: Yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: The cover of Vanity Fair. That was fun.
JOAN COLLINS: But I believe that today people who are being born today are going to live to be 100. And they say that people today in their 50s and 60s are going to live to at least late 80s or 90s.
MORGAN: Do you like that idea? Or is it vaguely terrifying.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes -- no, not -- the thing that's terrify -- not terrifying, but a little bit worrying is the fact that your friends are going to die. But most of my friends are pretty health like we are.
And also I think the thing that's scary is getting ill. That, I think, is the scary thing about getting older. Not necessarily losing our looks, because I think if you look good after 50 or 55, and if you take care of your skin, which I'm absolutely religious about, and Jackie is too, I think the -- and your body and you don't get too fat, I think you can go on looking really good until you're way up in your 80s and 90s.
JACKIE COLLINS: You have a fabulous skin.
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, go on.
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: No, this is actually true.
JOAN COLLINS: Not that fabulous. (CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: No, I can actually confirm this.
JACKIE COLLINS: I want to know what cream you're using.
MORGAN: Well, here's the thing. I went to a plastic surgeon for a TV show in Beverly Hills.
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: Yes, he did Pamela Anderson's boob job.
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: So obviously a man who is expert in the field. And he did this computerized thing on my skin and said I was an 86 percentile, which apparently means skin quality is in the top 14 percent of men my age in the whole of California.
JOAN COLLINS: English skin.
MORGAN: And he said, what do you put on it? I said absolutely nothing. Nothing.
JACKIE COLLINS: Really?
MORGAN: I don't put anything on my face at all.
JOAN COLLINS: Naturally.
MORGAN: Literally. A bit of sun screen...
JOAN COLLINS: A bit of shaving cream, yes.
MORGAN: ... if I'm in the sun, but nothing, so the whole skin care thing is clearly a complete scam.
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, I don't think -- I don't think that's necessarily true. No, no. I know...
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: Well, how have I got good skin?
JOAN COLLINS: Because you just -- because you shave, first of all. And shaving is exfoliating.
MORGAN: That's true.
JOAN COLLINS: Shaving exfoliates, so that one. And you don't frown a lot, I've noticed. You haven't...
MORGAN: People think I've had Botox.
JOAN COLLINS: You had Botox? MORGAN: No.
JACKIE COLLINS: He can't move his forehead.
(CROSSTALK)
JOAN COLLINS: Frown. Let me see you frown. Oh, you can't frown!
MORGAN: No. But it's natural beauty. It's natural beauty.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: It's natural beauty.
JOAN COLLINS: I went to a health...
MORGAN: I'm just naturally very blessed.
JOAN COLLINS: I went to a health farm last year and I had one of those tests in which, you know, you test for flexibility and what your lung capacity, and all those things and how much you want to -- and at the end, I said, well, what's my physiological age? He didn't know how old I was, he said 45.
MORGAN: Seriously.
JOAN COLLINS: No, I'm serious. I came back out and I told Percy. And I said, well, I'm the same age as you.
(LAUGHTER)
JOAN COLLINS: But there was a great...
MORGAN: We're going to have a -- another little break now. When we come back, I want to talk to you about the role that Jackie wrote for Joan.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(VIDEO CLIP)
JOAN COLLINS: You can't do that!
MORGAN: That -- we just did-- that was Joan Collins starring in "The Stud" based on a book written by her little sister Jackie. I mean, that was the movie really that propelled you into super stardom, wasn't it?
JOAN COLLINS: I guess. I know a lot of men in their 50s who watched it when they were teenagers and loved it. Yes, I think so, and Jackie, it was -- when she -- when I read the book, I said this is a fabulous book. And if you ever do Fontaine Khaled, I'd love to play her.
MORGAN: I mean, when you wrote it, did you imagine that Joan might play the...
JACKIE COLLINS: You know, Joan had a friend, a very close friend, and I kind of based the character a little bit on Joan, but mostly on her friend, Kathy (ph).
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
JACKIE COLLINS: Right. And she was amazing character. And then I always have this theory -- in fact, he told me so, Aaron saw "The Stud" and he immediately saw the character of Fontaine and how great Joan was in it, and that's how Alexis Carrington Colby came around.
MORGAN: Amazing.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: I mean, you were -- you were literally cast for this, weren't you, these were your perfect (ph) roles, both of them.
JACKIE COLLINS: Oh, she was great. She knew the character so well, you know. And also my husband owned night clubs in London, and so it was all based in the -- in Dollies (ph), actually.
MORGAN: I heard that your father wasn't happy. He thought this was all sort of soft porn.
JOAN COLLINS: Our father was never happy. When somebody said to him, so, Joe, do you watch your daughter in 'Dynasty?' He said, "I don't like 'Dynasty,' I'd rather watch 'Coronation Street.'"
And what did he say to (inaudible)?
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes, somebody asked if he read my books. He said, "I couldn't read that disgusting language." Meanwhile, when I was growing up, next to his bed he had "Lady Chatterly's Lover" in a brown paper wrapper. I kid you not. Next to his bed. So of course I took it and read it every day.
MORGAN: Of course.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: 1981, you land the role in "Dynasty," which is -- which transformed you really in terms of global impact, I think. That was the one that we will remember. Take me back to that moment. Did you ever think it was going to be that huge?
JOAN COLLINS: No idea at all. I was in Marbaya (ph) with Katie, my daughter. And we were having a holiday, and this -- my agent called and said, you know, they're interested in you for "Dynasty." And I said, "what's Dynasty?" He said, "it's a TV series. It's been on for like 12 episodes." I said "I never heard of it." He said, "well, they want you. Can you come out?" And it'll be probably a six week or 12-week gig. So I thought yes. OK, I can do that. This is what actors are. You know, we're books on the shelf. You pick them up -- and the library shelf, and so off I went and had no idea. MORGAN: Well, we're going to show you a little package here of what happened next. These are the -- some of Alexis's best moments.
JOAN COLLINS: Ooh.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You terrible (ph) bitch!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MORGAN: Those are quite extraordinary scenes.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes, well, most of them were not me. That person who falls into the pool, that's not me.
MORGAN: Stunt people.
JOAN COLLINS: That was my -- that was my stunt double, Sandy (ph). But the slaps, yes, I didn't like getting slapped.
MORGAN: I mean, how like Alexis have you been over the years?
JOAN COLLINS: Well, I look like her.
MORGAN: Of course.
JOAN COLLINS: But I...
MORGAN: Have you got the fiery temper? Do you flare up like that?
JOAN COLLINS: Not that much. Do you think I do?
JACKIE COLLINS: No, not really. Not really.
JOAN COLLINS: I don't suffer fools lightly.
MORGAN: Have you two ever had a fight like what we just saw?
JACKIE COLLINS: She's a Gemini.
(CROSSTALK)
JACKIE COLLINS: No. We've never had a fight.
MORGAN: You've never rolled around on the floor?
JACKIE COLLINS: No.
JOAN COLLINS: No. She's a Libra, which is very good and kind...
JACKIE COLLINS: Why, is that your fantasy? Us rolling on the floor?
MORGAN: Probably, to be honest. I always... (CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: ... the pair of you mud wrestling or something.
JOAN COLLINS: No, she -- I can't remember -- one of us jumped on the other one's back once when we were very, very young, and I think it was I who jumped on your back or you jumped on mine?
JACKIE COLLINS: And then I cut off all the buttons off all her clothes. Everything. I just cut all the zippers and the buttons and just...
JOAN COLLINS: I don't remember that.
JACKIE COLLINS: That was a good one.
MORGAN: Now we have -- we had...
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: As we discussed, we had Linda Evans on the show.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: It's called legendary women of TV. And there was a certain (inaudible) I would say about the way she spoke about -- I'm going to play you a clip.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LINDA EVANS: There's getting along and friends. I mean...
MORGAN: How can you ever be friendly with anyone again after that?
EVANS: Well, that's what I mean. It's not exactly a simple relationship that we have. Every year, we'd beat each other up.
(LAUGHTER)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MORGAN: I mean, she's sort of implying then, that it's quite hard to become bosom pals with somebody after you've been slapping seven bells out of each other.
JOAN COLLINS: Well, I --it -- it really wasn't a question of that. It was the question of Linda and I are totally, totally different characters. We are so far apart in every single way, in how we think, and we just didn't have a rapport in that -- off set. There was -- there was no rapport at all. And so you can't expect to be bosom buddies with everybody.
MORGAN: You spent years whacking each other in "Dynasty." Is there any way back for this friendship, do you think? JOAN COLLINS: I don't think it's ever been a friendship. I think we were just compatriots, you know, we were -- we were working -- working actresses together.
Now, I'm very friendly with Diahann Carroll. You know, we see each other all the time. We have dinner together. And most of the people have sort of disappeared. I don't know where they are.
MORGAN: Well, I've got a little treat for you because as part of "Dynasty's" 30th anniversary, I don't know if you know this, they came up with this, which is the...
JOAN COLLINS: Oh my.
JACKIE COLLINS: Oh.
JOAN COLLINS: God.
MORGAN: Barbie doll of you.
JOAN COLLINS: Look at that. Why haven't they given me one?
MORGAN: Well, this is for you. It's a present.
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, it is?
MORGAN: And it says "that sounds like a challenge. And I adore a challenge." So that is my little gift for you.
JOAN COLLINS: Oh, darling, thank you so much. She's pretty. Look at that waistline. Well, you know, they are talking...
JACKIE COLLINS: And she's wearing your dress.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes. She's wearing my dress. They are talking at -- Esther Shapiro (ph), who created this, is a very good friend of mine and we had lunch, and they are talking about something in the future "Dynasty"-ish.
MORGAN: Oh, really?
JOAN COLLINS: So stay tuned.
MORGAN: Well, "Dynasty's" coming back.
JOAN COLLINS: That's what I hear.
MORGAN: Are we going to see more "Dynasty?"
JOAN COLLINS: That could be.
MORGAN: Really?
JOAN COLLINS: Could be.
MORGAN: Have we got a little scoop there? JOAN COLLINS: I'm not allowed -- I'm not allowed -- I'm not allowed. My lips are sealed. My lips are sealed with a "Dynasty" doll.
MORGAN: I like this. This is a scoop.
JOAN COLLINS: It is a scoop.
MORGAN: Is "Dynasty" coming back?
JOAN COLLINS: It's been on Twitter, darling.
MORGAN: Yeah, but is it properly coming back?
JOAN COLLINS: I can't say.
MORGAN: Are you going to be reprising?
JOAN COLLINS: Well, I wouldn't be talking about it if I wasn't. But I mean, if it's going to come back --
MORGAN: This is sensational!
JOAN COLLINS: If it's going to come back, it will come back in a different form, you know, like an amoeba, it would -- sort of -- it wouldn't necessarily come back as it was left off. I don't know. You'll have to talk to Esther.
(CROSSTALK)
(LAUGHTER)
MORGAN: ... cast (ph) Linda Evans as well, to give a bit of spice to proceedings. When we come back after the break...
JOAN COLLINS: You're so wicked.
MORGAN: ... I'm going to be talking to Joan and Jackie Collins about the one thing they both love more than anything else, sex.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
MORGAN: I'm back now with Joan and Jackie Collins.
Ladies, both of you have either on screen or in literature, you know, done a little sex stuff over the years. Does sex get better with age, do you think?
JACKIE COLLINS: You tell us. You're the one that's taking Viagra.
(LAUGHTER)
MORGAN: I told you not to say anything.
JACKIE COLLINS: Oh, sorry. MORGAN: You have written some of the racist stuff.
JACKIE COLLINS: I know, it's great, isn't it?
MORGAN: The classic gong buster (ph) material. Right?
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: I've read it myself for many -- many a holiday.
JACKIE COLLINS: Because I was doing it way before anybody else.
MORGAN: You were. Yes. You really were.
JACKIE COLLINS: And I have fun with it, you know? I think I can write great married sex because I really do think it exists, and you should know that. You're a newly married man.
MORGAN: You're absolutely right.
JACKIE COLLINS: And also you can write great fun sex. And I just -- I like writing something that's going to make people laugh, but also turn them on at the same time.
MORGAN: How much of all the stuff that you write about have you actually partaken in?
JACKIE COLLINS: Everything.
MORGAN: Seriously?
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: It's all based on your experience?
JACKIE COLLINS: Well, I was a wild child.
MORGAN: (inaudible).
JACKIE COLLINS: Between the ages of 15 and getting married for the first time, I was sort of a wild child. She knows that.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: I've got here a copy of -- this is the original manuscript of "Lucky."
JACKIE COLLINS: Of "Lucky," yes. (Inaudible).
MORGAN: And absolutely extraordinary. This is how you do your books.
JACKIE COLLINS: I still write them long hand.
MORGAN: You hand write these books.
JACKIE COLLINS: I know.
MORGAN: Page after page after page.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: So even now, not on a computer or anything.
JACKIE COLLINS: No, I just finished.
MORGAN: And I find this absolutely fascinating. It's like a kind of you know, it's like some sort of papyrus parchment they're going to find it in hundreds of years.
JACKIE COLLINS: And then I have them leather bound. I just finished "Goddess of Vengeance," which is a thousand hand written pages.
JOAN COLLINS: A thousand?
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes. It'll be out in September.
MORGAN: Why do you do it that way? Now, when it...
JACKIE COLLINS: Because I love it. I love it, and I have a fantastic assistant who puts it on the computer for me. And every night I get back my printed out pages and then I make all my changes in hand writing too. And it's a great process. So we go back and forth on pages maybe 10, 20 times. But I just love to do it that way, and I love to have the bound copies afterward.
MORGAN: It's extraordinary, I think.
JACKIE COLLINS: I mean, I do a lot of other things on the computer like Twitter.
MORGAN: Well, I want to talk to you about Twitter. (inaudible) are really into Twitter, aren't you?
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: Why do you like it?
JOAN COLLINS: You can sort of express yourself, and also I wanted to get a few followers because so when I have a book out, because I'm writing a book -- but it's not a novel. It's a book called "The World According to Joan." You know, I write a lot of articles and ...
MORGAN: Yes. Yes.
(CROSSTALK)
JOAN COLLINS: (inaudible) opinions about everything. Men and diets and morals.
MORGAN: Well, I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. What is your address?
JOAN COLLINS: JoanCollinsOBE.
MORGAN: @Joan CollinsOBE, which is Order of the British Empire. Your great medal from the queen.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes.
MORGAN: And what is your address?
JACKIE COLLINS: JackieJCollins.
MORGAN: Jackie J. Collins. And I'm @PiersMorgan. All three of us should now be seeing followers flying...
JACKIE COLLINS: Exactly.
MORGAN: ...across cyber universe.
JOAN COLLINS: Yes, but you're (inaudible) -- you're verified. They won't verify me.
MORGAN: Well, you are unverifiable. You always have been.
JACKIE COLLINS: The reason I like it so much is you hear so much from people that's really interesting.
MORGAN: It's fun.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes. It's really fun.
MORGAN: It's just good, old-fashioned fun.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes. And you can talk to your fans.
MORGAN: In the old days, ladies would lunch. Now they twitter.
JACKIE COLLINS: Yes. Exactly.
MORGAN: It's been a real pleasure. Thank you. I could have gone on for hours.
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: It's a pleasure to meet you.
JACKIE COLLINS: And you too.
MORGAN: And it's lovely to see you again, Joan. It really is. And it (inaudible) a piece of history.
JOAN COLLINS: Absolutely.
MORGAN: The sisters for the first time.
(CROSSTALK) JACKIE COLLINS: And you can see what deadly enemies we are too.
MORGAN: Exactly.
(LAUGHTER)
MORGAN: Joan Collins and Jackie Collins. What a treat that was. Thank you so much.
Coming up, Hollywood's rising stars on the pressures of fame and not to end up like Charlie Sheen.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
MORGAN: Hollywood is always looking for the next big thing. And tonight I'm talking to three actors you could call Hollywood's next big thing. The cast of "Take Me Home Tonight": Topher Grace, Anna Farris, and Teresa Palmer.
Now, you are the new Hollywood elite.
ANNA FARRIS, "TAKE ME HOME TONIGHT": Oh, my God.
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: You are, you know, you're the next Brando and Meryl, and...
(CROSSTALK)
TERESA PALMER, "TAKE ME HOME TONIGHT": Wait, I didn't get one. What was mine?
GRACE: If I can -- if I can correct you, yes.
(CROSSTALK)
PALMER: I'm just like Cate Blanchett.
MORGAN: OK. Cate Blanchett. Yes.
PALMER: Yes, there you go.
GRACE: I think we're -- I don't want to correct you on your own show. But I think we're bigger than elite. Much bigger.
(LAUGHTER)
MORGAN: Well, actually, you were described as the next Tom Hanks. You were described as the next Goldie Hawn.
FARRIS: Oh.
MORGAN: And you were described as the next Reese Witherspoon.
PALMER: Really? MORGAN: So all of you have been tarred with what could be a good brush, or a potentially irritating brush.
GRACE: No, that's all good. That's all good.
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: Is that all good?
GRACE: There is nothing bad about being compared to awesome actors.
MORGAN: Is it -- I mean, is there a sort of -- it's obviously a media cliche when they do that kind of thing. Does it put huge pressure on you when you get this label, you are the next huge superstar and they name somebody you should be like?
FARRIS: Yes, I think it's terrifying. I mean, I'm all -- it's hugely flattering, but I think it's also -- see, I think you don't want to let anybody down. And I don't -- it's a very vulnerable position to put yourself in sort of a -- in a critical sort of -- anybody could tear you down for -- for not being what -- what they expect you to be I guess.
MORGAN: Well, it's a bit of brutal business, isn't it? I mean, when you come into the Hollywood world it probably all sounds very glamorous and great fun. But for women in particular, I think, because of all the pressure on the way you look, and all that kind of stuff, which guys don't tend to get as much.
What's the reality of being a Hollywood star like? Is it all it's cracked up to be?
PALMER: I don't know, I mean, I feel I'm very new to it still. I only started this, you know, a few years ago. But there's definitely a pressure from the society in -- in Hollywood for you to look a certain way, and -- and behave a certain way. And I don't know, it's a little bit daunting.
MORGAN: What is -- what is that -- what is that look and behavior?
PALMER: Well, I think especially your publicist and people who you -- work on your team. They want you to speak a certain way in interviews. And you have to be skinny. And you have to -- you know, and always be on point. You have to make sure what you're doing is -- is sort of the right -- the right thing to be doing.
MORGAN: So if you put on a few pounds, I mean, do -- do your publicists and managers say to you, "what the hell are you doing?"
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Yes, yes. No, I get that...
(CROSSTALK) MORGAN: Stop eating that burger.
GRACE: I get that all the time. And you're right. And it is shattering when they come after me that way. Yes.
(LAUGHTER)
FARRIS: I think there is -- I think there's ways that I've found to protect myself. And one is to not ever Google myself.
(CROSSTALK)
PALMER: Oh, it's so hard. That's too hard.
FARRIS: No, I -- I couldn't.
MORGAN: I mean, Topher, you've been around a bit more than the ladies.
GRACE: Oh, yes. How do you mean?
MORGAN: In every sense. What has it been like for you? I mean, is the dream of being a Hollywood heartthrob...
GRACE: Everyone is always telling me you're too skinny. You've got to lose some weight, right? No, I -- what has it been dealing with a kind of machine? You know, I think -- yes, I think Anna is right. You have to -- you do have to go on a diet in Hollywood, but it's your own kind of diet of -- of what you let in, and whose opinion you let in.
MORGAN: So it's -- it's an all-encompassing diet in terms of everything -- the way you behave, the way you talk, the way you want to -- cause in the end, if you all do the same thing -- my problem is all this sort of, oh, you've got to be skinny and look like this." If you all end up the same, where...
FARRIS: Yes.
MORGAN: ... does the originality go?
FARRIS: Yes, really.
GRACE: Well, I guess that I -- a lot of people say that I look too much like Brad Pitt, and that it's...
MORGAN: Yes, I get that.
GRACE: ... hurting my career. Yes, that I...
FARRIS: Intimidating.
GRACE: ... kind of I want to somehow differentiate myself from him.
(CROSSTALK) PALMER: That's impossible.
GRACE: I feel like I'm losing roles to him, and I'm like, I'm my own actor. You know what I mean?
MORGAN: How is it -- never mind Brad Pitt, who's a bastion of decency, but how have you avoided becoming Charlie Sheen?
GRACE: Oh, you just don't know.
PALMER: Yes.
GRACE: I'm just very good at hiding it.
PALMER: Yes.
GRACE: I'm high as...
MORGAN: Ladies?
GRACE: ... a kite right now.
PALMER: He's very proud of the (INAUDIBLE).
MORGAN: Have we all got a secret Charlie on our hands?
PALMER: Yes, watch out. He's dangerous. That's right.
MORGAN: But -- but I mean, can we be serious for a moment? Charlie Sheen obviously has gone off the rails a bit, even though he doesn't seem to care. But how do you avoid the obvious pitfalls? You're a Hollywood heartthrob. You've got women chucking themselves at you. There's drugs everywhere. There's booze everywhere.
GRACE: Are -- are you saying this is me?
MORGAN: I'm saying how -- how do you avoid...
GRACE: Cause that does not sound like my life, right?
MORGAN: Well, how do you avoid that when it's so obviously available if you want it?
GRACE: Well, like I said, I think you have to go -- you have to kind of set parameters and -- and one thing I didn't realize, look, first of all, we all signed up for this gig. We knew what it entailed. I mean, you know, and -- and both, it's fun.
Like there's a lot of fun to sit here and complain about being able to pretend for a living. And basically, you know, all these actors -- usually guys that I work with kind of, you know, think they're knights of the roundtable.
MORGAN: Yes.
GRACE: And I'm like, you know, you're a minstrel, right? You understand, we're not knights. Like knights are like people who are doing real jobs.
MORGAN: I mean, most of your colleagues, they do take themselves terribly seriously, some of them.
GRACE: Yes.
PALMER: Yes.
MORGAN: Beautiful people living beautiful lives. That ain't hard stuff.
GRACE: Look, I get to do a movie with these two girls. Like I got to go to work every day with two of the hottest, funniest girls in the world.
MORGAN: Who do the three of you really look up to? Who are your -- your idols in the business?
PALMER: I've said her before, but Cate Blanchett. I think she's so phenomenal in -- in every role she takes on and she also seems to live a very down-to-earth lifestyle. She lives in Australia with her husband and her kids.
MORGAN: I slept with her once.
PALMER: You didn't, did you?
MORGAN: I did.
PALMER: (INAUDIBLE) on the plane (INAUDIBLE), right?
FARRIS: I knew it. I knew you were going to say that.
MORGAN: It was on British Airways. And she even slept in a beautiful way.
PALMER: Yes.
MORGAN: You know, I looked at her, and she's just like serene.
PALMER: She's so eloquent. Yes, she is.
MORGAN: I mean, how can you sleep in a serene way as one who is being a great actor?
PALMER: I don't know.
MORGAN: It's unfair, isn't it? Who would you say?
(CROSSTALK)
FARRIS: You know, off the top of my head, I -- I really admire Kevin Bacon, and I love how strong his -- his sense of family is, and that he's able to do a variety of movies. It's -- to me, I don't know him. But it seems like he has really been able -- his priorities -- he managed to -- he seems to have a great balance between -- MORGAN: What about the actresses?
FARRIS: Oh, well, I love Kate Winslet, I love Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore. I love -- I think that right now is a comedic -- in the comedic world, it's very hard for women. And I think that it's sort of an uphill battle, and I really admire women that are, you know, taking a stab at it.
MORGAN: Why is it hard in the comedic world?
FARRIS: I -- well, I think that for a number of reasons. I think that the studio climates, it's -- it's terrifying. They somehow think that men don't really want to see women that are funny. I think sexy is one -- sexy is great. Funny is a little -- maybe it's a little terrifying. I don't know. It's a good question.
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: I don't know, I find funny women sexy.
PALMER: Yes.
GRACE: Oh, yes. Anna has got the trifecta.
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Is she funny? Which is what every guy is looking for. But she's also...
FARRIS: Awww.
GRACE: ... super-hot, and super cool. And same thing goes for Tess (ph).
MORGAN: You are lucky, aren't you?
GRACE: Yes, this is my life, people. I've got breaking news. Topher Grace's life is awesome.
MORGAN: Who -- who are your great idols in the film business?
GRACE: I've always had a really big Jimmy Stewart thing. I thought -- it was also just his films are kind of the first things I was aware of, because of, you know, "It's a Wonderful Life," coming on at Christmas all the time. You know, I'm executive producer on this film. One of the reasons I wanted to do it was to work with my peer group. I've worked with a lot of huge older movie stars, and it's great. You get to learn so much...
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: Is it harder though to do that?
GRACE: No, it's easier in a way cause you -- you know, you have someone who is, you know, kind of captaining the ship. But I really wanted to work with my peer group. I had had a lot of great opportunities to work with my peer group in "That '70s Show." And I missed that where you're working with people that are in bloom...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: ... you know, as you're working with them.
MORGAN: I want to play a clip from the movie so we can get a...
FARRIS: Yes.
MORGAN: ... a feel for what you are talking about.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "TAKE ME HOME TONIGHT")
FARRIS: Swear to God, the only reason I got offered a full-time position at Drexel (ph) is because he wants to see my boobs.
GRACE: Really?
FARRIS: Mm-hmm.
GRACE: What about your friend's boobs?
FARRIS: Well, he has already seen them.
GRACE: Really?
FARRIS: Mm-hmm.
GRACE: Wow.
FARRIS: Mm-hmm. You see, that's a problem. Boob power recedes once revealed. He hasn't looked at mine. So I retain the boob power.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MORGAN: Why are you laughing.
PALMER: The boob power. Hilarious.
MORGAN: Now, here's what I didn't know. So you went out with him, right?
PALMER: Did I?
GRACE: I tried.
MORGAN: Is it true?
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: I tried so hard.
Well, since you were so forthcoming with your relationship with Cate.
(LAUGHTER)
GRACE: Yes, sure. I also had a thing with Cate Blanchett. And you're right. When she sleeps, it's so...
(LAUGHTER)
PALMER: I love it.
GRACE: It's so serene. I -- I hope we don't get any press off of this. But sure, I -- I slept with Cate Blanchett.
MORGAN: You know what I admire about you? The way you manage to deflate to almost every -- every difficult question I've...
PALMER: Amazing.
MORGAN: ... thrown at you with a little bit of...
PALMER: He's so good.
MORGAN: ... a little bit of comedy.
We're going to have us a little break. When we come back, because the film is called "Take me Home Tonight," I'm going to ask you what the greatest night of your lives was.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "TAKE ME HOME TONIGHT")
FARRIS: Oh, my God.
GRACE: Oh, my God.
CHRIS PRATT, "TAKE ME HOME TONIGHT": Wendy, will you marry me?
GRACE: No.
FARRIS: Hell, yes!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MORGAN: That's a clip from the new film, "Take Me Home Tonight." Now the extraordinary thing about that moment is that it then happened in real life. You really did get married to that guy.
FARRIS: I know.
MORGAN: How did this happen?
FARRIS: I don't know.
GRACE: So the moral of the thing is don't marry that guy...
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: Well, that guy is your husband Chris Pratt...
FARRIS: Yes, yes.
MORGAN: ... I should say. And what was the moment where things sort of got cemented?
FARRIS: Well, I was -- I mean, it was after -- we started dating actually after the movie wrapped. But I was really attracted to how talented he was. I had an -- it's -- you know, it's very sexy to -- to work with somebody that really inspires you.
MORGAN: How do you not fall in love? When you're with these kind of actresses, and you have to do a love scene, how do you not end up with...
GRACE: Can I be honest with you about something?
MORGAN: Yes.
GRACE: That is something I'm really nervous about in terms of getting married.
MORGAN: Oh, really?
GRACE: Yes.
MORGAN: Because you have to work with the actresses who are...
GRACE: It is hard enough to go to a job. I'm sure -- I mean, I've never had another job. But I think it's hard enough to go to a job every day and be attracted to someone in the next cubicle. But then if part of that job was that you go over and make out with the person in the other cubicle, and -- you know, multiple times.
By the way. It's total B.S. when any of these actors say, you know, it's like choreography man, and like -- it's like, we're not even -- I mean, these are the most beautiful people in the world.
MORGAN: What is it really like?
PALMER: It's just so bizarre. Having like a broomstick up right like right in your face, and you're trying to make out with someone. And it's hard to have any sort of real feelings for that person, when it's such a bizarre environment, and there are 100 people looking at you. And so I kind of have the opposite...
MORGAN: So we've got one who...
FARRIS: No, I'm with you.
PALMER: Yes.
MORGAN: And you can't say you're with her. You -- you ended up marrying the guy. (LAUGHTER)
PALMER: I know.
MORGAN: How can you be with her?
FARRIS: It's so awkward. You're worried that like suddenly -- OK, so now we're supposed to kiss. Do we use tongues. Am I supposed to...
(CROSSTALK)
MORGAN: Yes, what do you do?
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: ... I go for the method actor, OK? But in certain circumstances, bam. And this is one of those circumstances.
FARRIS: Oh, my God.
MORGAN: I really want to know this, because I've always been fascinated. I'm sure the viewers are too. What do you actually do? I mean, when you have to go and kiss a guy.
PALMER: I think the rule is no tongue. We definitely have had some actors slipping the tongue.
MORGAN: The rule -- the rule is no tongue?
PALMER: I'm pretty sure that's...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: Yes.
MORGAN: And how many...
GRACE: I'm sorry about that, OK? I didn't know that was the Australian rule. I did not know that was the rule.
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MORGAN: Did he -- did he break that rule?
PALMER: He did. He slipped into a bit of tongue there.
MORGAN: Really?
PALMER: I think that was his tactic.
MORGAN: Oh, this is really damning evidence, isn't it?
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GRACE: No, but I felt -- I felt that the character would tongue kiss. It wasn't any...
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MORGAN: So you're a serial rule-breaker?
GRACE: The character would tongue-kiss.
PALMER: Yes.
MORGAN: You look a bit embarrassed by that revelation. He knows he has been caught.
GRACE: I had my first sexy scene ever with Laura Linney, who's like one of the best actresses alive.
PALMER: Wow.
MORGAN: Of course.
GRACE: And I was so freaked out. And we had to do the whole thing, like really the entire thing was in one take. And I had -- I had to go to her dressing room. The director was really bashful. And everyone was bashful about it.
So I went to her dressing room, and kind of said like, hey, I think something is going to happen during -- I mean, how do you -- do you know what I mean? Like how -- how do you -- and it's wonderful that I -- that I lost my screen virginity to her, because she was able to say, oh, honey...
FARRIS: Yes.
GRACE: ... I've done it tons of times. And, you know, it's going to be fine. And I actually asked her. I mean, it was -- I was pathetic, because I -- I literally had to go to her dressing room. I wish the director hadn't been as timid.
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MORGAN: I love this conversation. So (INAUDIBLE)?
GRACE: I had to say, you know, Laura Linney, like eight-time Oscar nominee, can I touch your boobs? You know? And...
MORGAN: And what did she say? Yes?
GRACE: No -- yes, she was great about it. She actually got really clinical about it, which is what you need. I mean, look, we're talking about two different things. I'm worried personally about, you know, like it's just a tough job to be in, in terms of monogamous relationships. All of Hollywood can speak to that. Like I...
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GRACE: Like I don't know one couple that has been together over, you know, 11 years. But in terms of the mechanics of doing it, there are lots of ways to be a gentleman, and to be -- you know, and -- and in her case, she was kind of guiding me through the sex scene. And there's a lot of romance in this movie. And, you know, there's -- there's ways to be really appropriate about it.
MORGAN: Let me finally ask you what I asked you all earlier, which is, the film is called "Take Me Home Tonight." What is the great night of your lives that you'd -- you'd never forget? Let's start with you.
PALMER: Oh, look, I've had some really amazing nights in my life. I don't know if one really stands out over another. But I had a great -- a really wonderful night the other night at the premier of my film, "I Am Number Four." And my mom flew out for that. And it was so surreal, and my mom was tearing up. And we just kept looking at each other, and we couldn't believe that we were actually here.
MORGAN: Out of the (INAUDIBLE), yes.
PALMER: Yes.
MORGAN: That's great. Anna, what would you say?
FARRIS: I think when -- when Chris proposed to me. I think...
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MORGAN: On or off screen?
FARRIS: Both, actually. They were both -- they were both great nights for different reasons.
MORGAN: Was he on bended knee like the character?
FARRIS: No way. He didn't get on one knee. What does that mean?
MORGAN: I'll give it to you.
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FARRIS: I think -- I think he thought it was a little corny.
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MORGAN: Topher? Best moment of your life? Best night of your life?
GRACE: Well, it's just such a tough question. I honestly don't think I can answer it. I could give you the self-serving answer. You know what I mean? It was something to do with my career. But it's probably something to do with, you know, a personal thing. What you're talking -- you know, probably like -- I don't know.
I think -- you know, I produced the film with Gordon Kaywin. He was my producing partner, and was my roommate in boarding school when we were 15. And we've grown up together. And...
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MORGAN: So to finally produce a top Hollywood movie with the guy you grew up with. That's pretty special.
GRACE: Yes, I think maybe he and I might have night where look at each other like, what an incredible experience to have something that...
MORGAN: That's good.
GRACE: ... came out of our -- our brains kind of.
MORGAN: Thank you all of you. It has been a lot of fun.
GRACE: Thank you.
FARRIS: Thank you.
PALMER: Thank you very much.
MORGAN: Topher Grace, Anna Farris, and Teresa Palmer, who are starring in the new movie "Take Me Home Tonight."
