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Jane Velez-Mitchell

Duke Rape Accuser Arrested; Alleged Daycare Shooter Appears in Court

Aired April 04, 2011 - 19:00   ET

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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST (voice-over): Tonight, a stunning twist in a case that obsessed the nation. A shocking arrest in North Carolina. The exotic dancer who infamously falsely accused three Duke lacrosse players of rape back in 2006 is now sitting in the slammer. Cops say she stabbed her boyfriend with a kitchen knife, and this wasn`t the first boyfriend she allegedly assaulted. Is this woman out of control?

And was it a love triangle that turned deadly? A man accused of gunning down the husband of a co-worker in front of the day-care center appears in court. New questions arise about the relationship between the suspect and the victim`s wife. She says she was shocked to learn her boss was accused of murdering her husband. How did this alleged executioner plea? I`ll have the head-spinning details.

Also, is primetime TV encouraging bullying and hate speech? On "Celebrity Apprentice," contestant and famous rapper Li`l John throws around the word "gay" to another contestant, who is later fired. We condemn kids for using gay slurs, but how different is this? And why was it included in the show? What example does that set? We`ll take your calls.

Plus, public outrage. The company operating the oil rig that exploded, killing 11 people last year, just awarded its bigwigs bonuses for having the best year in safety. What? Who is holding these oil companies responsible? And who decided that 11 lives lost and ruining our Waters is at all acceptable?

ISSUES starts now.

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DAVE EVANS, FORMER DUKE UNIVERSITY LACROSSE PLAYER: It`s been 395 days since this nightmare began. And finally today it`s come to a closure.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Breaking news tonight. An explosive development in a case that transfixed the whole country, touching nerves of race, sex, privilege and sports team mentality. I am talking about the Duke lacrosse rape scandal.

Tonight, breaking news. The exotic dancer who leveled those explosive false rape allegations way back in 2006 is now charged herself with stabbing her boyfriend.

Thirty-two-year-old Crystal Mangum was arrested yesterday at a North Carolina apartment. Police say she took a kitchen knife and plunged it into her boyfriend`s torso during an argument. This is the second time in just over a year she has been accused of assaulting a boyfriend. A case last year involved a different boyfriend and included charges of attempted murder, arson and child abuse.

Incredibly, both alleged attacks happened right in Durham, North Carolina, the very same time where Crystal infamously claimed she was sexually assaulted in a bathroom at a Duke lacrosse party. The three students she accused were eventually exonerated, and the prosecutor -- there he is -- Mike Nifong, he was disbarred after being accused of blindly siding with the accuser and withholding evidence.

But believe it or not, she is now claiming she is being targeted because of the Duke lacrosse case. Listen to her.

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CRYSTAL MANGUM, ACCUSED OF STABBING BOYFRIEND: I do feel that I`m being unjustly treated because of preconceived notions about my character in the media.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: So what is behind this mother of three and her trail of trouble? Did the rape scandal launch Crystal into a downward spiral that might ultimately land her behind bars?

Call me. What`s your thought on this? 1-877-JVM-SAYS. That`s 1-877- 586-7297.

Straight out to Michelle Sigona, investigative reporter.

Michelle, you`ve been investigating this case. What is the very latest?

MICHELLE SIGONA, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, about 30 minutes ago, I got off the phone with the Durham County Sheriff`s Office, Jane, the jail specifically. They told me that today her -- her bail was reduced to $300,000.

She is being held at that facility under a couple of charges right now. The first will be assault with a deadly weapon, and also intent -- also intent to kill, inflicting serious injury. So that`s where the case stands right now.

Investigators were called out to a Durham apartment complex yesterday morning around 3:15 a.m. The victim in this case, allegedly her boyfriend, he has not been identified. Forty-six years old. He was taken to the hospital. He is in serious condition. His injuries are serious at this time. And at this particular point, she`s going to face charges.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow, that`s serious. OK. Stabbing to the torso, this is no light matter here. Crystal, accused of attacking her 46-year- old boyfriend, Reginald Daye, yesterday. The man who called 911 told the dispatcher, Crystal stabbed his uncle Reggie during a fight about rent money. The dispatcher asked the name of the name of the attacker, and the young man answered, quote, "It`s Crystal Magnum, the -- Mangum, the Crystal Mangum. I told him she was trouble from the very beginning," end quote.

Now the boyfriend had gotten other warnings about Crystal. Listen to this.

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ANTHONY MCCULLOUGH, VICTIM`S COUSIN: I mean, he was excited. "Guess who I`m dating now." He was excited. You know?

I told him, "Man, with her background, you ought to be careful."

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Dr. Robi Ludwig, can we detect a pattern in Crystal`s behavior? She`s accused of stabbing this boyfriend. She was previously accused of attacking another boyfriend last year and, of course, she infamously made false rape accusations against three Duke lacrosse players. Could the common theme here be hostility towards men?

DR. ROBI LUDWIG, PSYCHOLOGIST: Absolutely. In fact, when I listen to this woman`s history, I wonder if at one point in her youth if she was a victim of...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hey, move your hair, Dr. Robi. It`s messing up your mike. Just move your hair.

LUDWIG: I`m sorry. I`m sorry. So I wonder if she`s the victim of sexual or physical abuse, because the amount of rage that she has towards men seems to be indicative of some kind of unresolved issue...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. You know what it is? It`s your necklace. It`s your necklace.

Take it all off. Wrap it around the other way and come back and give us your answer right now.

LUDWIG: OK, rage, due to -- I would imagine in her history, sexual abuse or physical abuse, that she`s trying to work out. So if she becomes the victimizer, then she won`t be the victim. And that`s what I see when I look at this woman`s history.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. So lashing out. All right. You promise you`re not going to wear that necklace any time soon back on this show.

LUDWIG: I`m taking it off. I`m throwing it out.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Take it off and throw it across the room. It`s crackling again.

LUDWIG: Throwing it out.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Crystal was convicted last year of child abuse, resisting arrest and damage to property. Police say she assaulted a different boyfriend in front of her kids and set his clothes on fire.

Now, a jury couldn`t reach a verdict on arson, but Crystal claimed her boyfriend attacked her, and that the Duke rape case had prejudiced police against her. Listen to this.

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MAGNUM: My name is Crystal Gayle Mangum. Many people have tried to use my name and my past to intimidate me, to make me believe that I was a nobody. The Duke lacrosse case will never define who I am.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: She was sentenced to 88 days in jail last year, which she`d already served while awaiting trial. Given her history, Lisa Bloom, is she facing hard time if she`s convicted this time around?

LISA BLOOM, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: She could be, Jane, but listen, if the Duke rape case has taught us anything, it`s that everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

I don`t know what happened here. I don`t know who attacked who. I don`t know if it was self-defense. But I think we all need to take a deep breath and not just blast this woman. She`s already had a lot of trouble.

I remember covering the Duke rape case, which you did, as well, Jane, that she had to go into hiding with her children. I mean, this was a horrendous ordeal for her.

Now, if she`s committed a crime now, that doesn`t justify it. But I think we all need to get the facts and be really clear about what happened in this domestic violence incident before we convict her.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but she was convicted just last year, OK? And so...

BLOOM: Yes, but not in the one we`re talking about today.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I know. But this -- I think it would be fair to say that it could be a pattern.

And I would like to ask Lauren Lake, criminal defense attorney. OK, in February 2010 she was arrested after an altercation between her and a different boyfriend. She was accused of assaulting a man in front of her kids. I`d like to know what`s going on with Crystal`s children. I`m concerned about them.

LAUREN LAKE, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Of course. I mean, the kids are of paramount concern in this situation, Jane. And we all are concerned about them. Unfortunately, they have a mother that has been going through several things in the last years, and unfortunately, they are a party to it in the sense that they may or may not have had to witness some very violent things.

On the other hand, they may just have a troubled mother that needs some help.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You think? I think she`s got troubles.

LAKE: As a criminal defense attorney, I have to agree with Lisa Bloom that says that -- she could be in abusive relationships. And even if you`re troubled and even if you have problems with men, you can still be abused to the point where you may need to defend yourself, and that may be the case here.

BLOOM: That`s what I`m talking about.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m up on the war on women and everything else, but sometimes if somebody`s got a really bad track record, we need to hold them accountable.

I mean, this is a woman who destroyed, at least temporarily, a lot of lives, and I have to say, my big issue here, is this the ultimate vindication for those young men accused of -- accused in the lacrosse case? They were completely exonerated, but the case still cast a shadow on those men and their families. I mean, this was an explosive, racially charged case. Three young white men of privilege accused of raping an African- American stripper.

Crystal said her attackers hurled racial slurs at her. OK. This was a national firestorm, until December 2006, and that`s when Crystal told an investigator she was no longer sure she had been sexually assaulted. So, I mean, Lauren...

BLOOM: But Jane...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: ... we have to look at the fact that this -- go ahead, Lisa.

BLOOM: You know, the racial allegations were witnessed, so there was racism in this case in terms of what these young men said to her...

LAKE: Right.

BLOOM: ... when she was leaving. Not everything that she said has been disproven.

This reminds me a lot of the Rodney King case. You know, here`s an ordinary young man who was caught in this media firestorm, and yes, he had a couple of arrests afterwards, but that doesn`t undercut the initial incident that happened.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, wait a second. The district attorney -- the district attorney in the Duke rape case resigned.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: These young men were exonerated. And remember, there were a lot of people at the party that night. Something like 46...

LAKE: But Jane, that was the D.A.`s misconduct.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but what I`m saying is, let`s not -- let`s not immediately assume that the three who were exonerated had anything to do with racial slurs. Because there were a lot of people at that party, and I`m not making that connection.

BLOOM: Well, there were racist e-mails that went out.

LAKE: The D.A.`s misconduct should not be projected onto her.

BLOOM: That`s true.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. We`re just getting started. I`ve got a caller out of Indiana. We`re going to get you on the other side of the break. More on the Duke lacrosse rape accuser in just a bit. We`re taking your calls on this: 1-877-JVM-SAYS.

And later, "Celebrity Apprentice" contestant and famous rapper Li`l John throws around the word "gay" to another contestant, who was then fired. Is that teaching our kids that gay slurs are OK?

But first, the exotic dancer infamously known as the women who wrongly accused the Duke lacrosse players of rape now in the slammer for allegedly stabbing her boyfriend.

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MANGUM: I do feel that I am being unjustly treated because of preconceived notions about my character in the media.

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EVANS: It`s been 395 days since this nightmare began, and finally today it`s come to a closure.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: That was one of three Duke lacrosse players falsely accused of raping an exotic dancer in 2006. Now the woman who leveled the accusations is charged with stabbing her boyfriend. Does trouble follow her? Or could it be the other way around?

We`re going to a caller, Stella, in Indiana. Your question or thought, ma`am?

CALLER: Oh, yes, hi.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hi.

CALLER: This woman is out of control. She`s living in a world of denial. She has three children. She has a pattern of bad behavior, a repeat offender, and she needs to take responsibility.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I`m kind of agreeing with you, and I`m a little surprised that everybody is so quick to rush to her defense. I will rush to the defense of a woman...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Not me, Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But I`m a little perplexed. And now we`re going to go back to Dr. Robi Ludwig, who has removed her necklace. It`s gone. It`s been thrown out the window, wherever she is.

Robi, is she in denial? Is -- does she have, like, some deep-rooted psychological problem that is causing her to get wrapped up into all this negative drama repeatedly, despite having children?

LUDWIG: I wouldn`t even say that she`s in denial. I think she`s a person who views herself as a victim. So she might, because of her history, choose men who are dangerous, but she views men as threatening to her, and then she reacts in kind.

She may have a mood disorder we want to rule out. There`s an anger management issue that we`re seeing, as well. I think she`s just a person who is psychologically surviving. She`s in a difficult situation, she lashes out with rage. She`s not even thinking about her kids, because she`s in survival mode.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I worry about the kids.

Now, the group of friends of Crystal Mangum say they are fully behind her and want to protect Crystal from a corrupt judicial system. Listen to this. They even showed up in court today to support her. Check this out.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s not a flight risk. If she was a flight risk, she would have be gone. And she`s gone through two traumatic situations, and she hasn`t left Durham yet.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Lauren Lake, people are gathering to support her and talking about traumatic situations. Are they in denial if, in fact, she went after her boyfriend with a knife and stabbed him in the torso, as she`s accused of doing?

LAKE: If think if we talk about denial, even if people are in denial, Jane, even if she`s in denial, her friends are in denial, it still doesn`t mean that she wasn`t attacked and maybe had to defend herself.

I think all Lisa and I are saying is that we don`t know what happened here.

And for her to have supporters, murders have supporters; rapists have supporters. A whole bunch of defendants have supporters. So the fact that she does have family and friends, I`m actually glad of that as a defense attorney to help her get through this process, and hopefully help justice be served.

SIGONA: Well, I also think, Jane, another portion of this case, and that`s something that investigators will look into, is they`re going to interview the neighbors, the family, the friends, to figure out exactly that -- the dynamics of this particular relationship. There are some neighbors who have spoken out to say, "Hey, look, we`ve heard some fights in the past." Maybe more specifically, they need to figure out what those fights were about, and maybe, you know, trying to figure out who the aggressor was or whatever the circumstances may be.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I think somebody who`s stabbed in the stomach is a victim if they`re stabbed in the stomach. That`s the accusation in this case.

And in the February 2010 case involving a different boyfriend, she was accused of assaulting that man in front of her children.

I want to go to a caller. And we`ve got -- is it Lucina, Kentucky? I hope I`m saying your name right, ma`am. Lucina?

CALLER: Yes, that`s right.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Your thoughts, ma`am?

CALLER: I just wanted to ask you, is it a war on men today?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ooh, wow. Well, you know what? I`m going to throw that hot potato over to Lisa Bloom.

BLOOM: I`m sorry. I couldn`t hear the question.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Is it a war on men today? Because here on ISSUES, we talk about the war on women.

BLOOM: Oh. Oh, excellent question. Look, all I`m saying is if we apply the lessons of the Duke rape case, what do we know? No. 1, law enforcement can be corrupt. No. 2, law enforcement can have a vendetta against somebody. No. 3, law enforcement can dig in against somebody who is innocent.

And so all we`re saying is, let`s not prejudge this woman. She`s been through a heck of a lot. We do know that when women stab men who are their intimate partners, it is very...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Sometimes, though, the women do have problems, and sometimes women are the bad guys. Just saying.

BLOOM: Of course, sometimes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And by the way, the three Duke players are currently suing Durham police and the former D.A., Mike Nifong, so we`re going to stay on top of that. Thank you, fantastic panel.

Coming up, the company operating the BP oil rig -- OK -- that killed 11 people congratulating themselves.

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CHIEF BILLY GROGAN, DUNWOODY, GEORGIA, POLICE DEPARTMENT: This case appears to be a cold and calculated murder, does not appear to be random in nature. The victim was shot multiple times, in what appears to be point blank range.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight an accused murderer proclaims his innocence in court, but will the evidence prove he was the killer in a deadly love triangle?

Husband and father Hemy Neuman accused of gunning down Rusty Sneiderman moments after the victim dropped off his young son at an Atlanta day care last fall, if you can believe that. Horrific.

The two were not strangers. The victim`s wife had worked for the suspect. Prosecutors say they now have proof that the suspect and the victim`s wife were having an affair. Wow. That`s from prosecutors. Still, detectives have not -- I repeat not -- implicated Andrea Sneiderman in her husband`s death. Is it possible this man in the orange, Hemy Neuman, really acted alone?

Straight out to Veronica Waters, reporter for WSB Radio in Atlanta.

Veronica, what is the very latest in this case?

VERONICA WATERS, REPORTER, WSB RADIO: Well, the very latest, Jane, is that Hemy Neuman had his arraignment in Dekalb County court today. No surprise, he entered a "not guilty" plea via his attorney, Doug Peters. He did not speak in the court. It was very short hearing.

And now the defense has asked for some 30 days to look over some 6,000 to 6,500 pages of discovery that`s been handed over to them by the Dekalb County prosecution. Even the prosecutors say this is one of the most complicated cases they`ve had in the county.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And, of course, the salacious aspect is this possible love triangle that prosecutors were referring to.

Again, Andrea Sneiderman, the victim`s wife, has not been accused in her husband`s death at all. Not a person of interest, not a suspect. But I have to ask, how truthful has she been about this case?

She released her first public statement about Rusty`s murder in February. She called Hemy Neuman a, quote, "family friend" and expressed shock over his arrest. But since that statement, prosecutors say they have gotten proof of continuous communication between Andrea and the suspect before and after the shooting.

And I`m reading here, as well, from WSB-TV.com. They say court documents show prosecutors possess material and information which prove a romantic and/or physical relationship between the defendant and Andrea Sneiderman. What do you know, Veronica?

WATERS: Well, Jane, you`ll remember that some weeks ago, the investigators moved forward with a search warrant to look for text messages, e-mails, anything they could about the communication between these two, Andrea Sneiderman and Hemy Neuman. Apparently, what they`ve been able to ascertain from that communication is that there was an intimate relationship.

Now, keep in mind, nobody on the record other than Ariela Neuman, Hemy Neuman`s wife, has gone on the record as saying, "Yes, we believe there is an affair."

Andrea Sneiderman has been silent, and Hemy Neuman is apparently exercising his right to remain silent. He`s not talking about any affair.

But Esther Panich (ph), the divorce attorney for Ariela Neuman, is saying on the record, "Yes, we believe that there was an affair here." They`re trying to get information from the district attorney`s office to help their case along. As you know, Ariela Neuman has filed for separation from her husband, but so far, they`ve been stonewalled on that request.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So what you`re saying is the suspect`s wife is divorcing him and she believes what prosecutors say, that her estranged husband, who she`s trying to divorce, was having an affair.

WATERS: Correct. That is the word from Esther Panich (ph), the attorney. We have not heard directly from Ariela Neuman in this case, but Esther Panich (ph) says, you know, this is a very stressful situation for the family.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Sure.

WATERS: The children have not visited their father in jail, but there has been some communication.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow, what a really shocking case. Thank you so much, Veronica. We`re going to stay on top of it.

Bullying on prime time? "Celebrity Apprentice" and famous rapper L`il John.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Is primetime TV encouraging bullying and hate speech? On "Celebrity Apprentice" contestant and famous Lil Jon throws around the word "gay" to another contestant who was later fired. We condemn kids for using gay slurs, but how different is this? And why was it included in the show? What example does that set? We`ll take your calls.

Plus, public outrage -- the company operating the oil rig that exploded, killing 11 people last year just awarded its bigwigs bonuses for having the best year in safety? What? Who is holding these oil companies responsible, and who decided 11 lives lost and ruing our waters is at all acceptable?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There`s all different kinds of reasons why kids take on other kids. There`s not one reason usually. All different kinds of kids have this experience.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ever wonder where bullying stems from? NBC`s "Celebrity Apprentice" may not be helping things. Listen to this comment and decide for yourselves.

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LIL JON, RAPPER: Richard had big roses on his hat. I was like, damn Richard, that`s a really gay hat. But that`s you.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: "That`s a really gay hat, but that`s you." And that`s part of our bullying problem right there, thoughtless comments like "that`s a gay hat." Why did producers choose to include that remark? They have hundreds of hours of footage to pick from. Did the producers choose to keep the gay comment in because they think it`s socially accepted speech?

And that wasn`t the only hit openly gay contestant Richard Hatch had to take on last night`s "The Apprentice."

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DONALD TRUMP, "CELEBRITY APPRENTICE": He`s unbelievably intelligent, but at the same time I have to say, he raised no money. I got to do it. Richard, you`re fired.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Straight out to Jodee Blanco, anti-bully expert and author of "Please, Stop Laughing at Me." Jodi, what is the subliminal or not so subliminal takeaway here?

JODEE BLANCO, AUTHOR, "PLEASE STOP LAUGHING AT ME": The takeaway is that adults are hypocrites. I traveled the nation`s schools where adults are constantly telling kids be sensitive, don`t use racial slurs, don`t discriminate, be tolerant. Adults are telling kids to think before you speak.

But then we have a major primetime television show that seems to glorify not thinking before you speak. I know that perhaps Lil Jon didn`t mean anything cruel by his remark, but the fact of the matter is, Jane, you don`t have to mean to be cruel in order to be cruel.

And what that says to kids is that we want you to do as we say, but not as we do, which is being insensitive. It should never have been included.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It was exactly the kind of speech that "Dateline NBC" condemned at a recent expose. They placed hidden cameras in a school gym. There were real kids there and they wanted to see how the real kids would react. Here`s how those bystanders reacted. Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The actors get aggressive.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t want it like that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The real boys don`t seem to know what to do.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m going to tell them how gay you`re being right now.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wayne Besen, the executive director of "Truth Wins Out," the expose where they`re pointing out how problematical this kind of language is. How is that different from what Lil Jon said last night on celebrity apprentice?

WAYNE BESEN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF "TRUTH WINS OUT": It`s not that different. These bullies are getting these ideas they can push LGBT students around from somewhere. And 90 percent of students who are gay, bisexual, or transgender think they are being bullied. I think adults need to not make such comments. It`s getting filtered down. It`s hard to hit the books when you`re getting hit in the face by bullies.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Is it part of a bullying mindset? This way of thinking, this way of speaking results in bullying, that`s according to the experts. Why wasn`t this issue discussed on the show? It was said, but it was not addressed. Does it send the message that it`s OK to use the word "gay" in a less than flattering manner? It didn`t sound like Lil Jon was complimenting Richard Hatch or his hat.

But when Meatloaf went ballistic at Gary Busey, that was addressed in Trump`s board meeting because they felt it was controversial.

BESEN: Well, it`s a double --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That`s a gay hat. That`s not addressed. Lisa Bloom, do you see a double standard here?

LISA BLOOM, ATTORNEY, THEBLOOMFIRM.COM: Absolutely. I would like to see the figure head of the show, Donald Trump call him out on the show for this kind of behavior. We`re in the middle of a gay teen suicide epidemic. Words have consequences, words hurt, and kids watch this show, go out into the school yard and say, "that`s so gay" to a kid who gets upset because they`re still learning about their identity.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: He said it and they should have addressed it, especially given the fact that Richard Hatch is an out gay person who was fired on last night`s episode.

BLANCO: Jane, I want to jump in too.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, hold on one second. This is such an important aspect of this story, because just last week here on "ISSUES" we told you about that young girl who said she`s tormented by bullies and she created that viral YouTube video. Tonight at 9:00, Dr. Drew premieres here on HLN. He has an exclusive interview with this brave girl and her mom. Tune in to all of Dr. Drew`s insights. Here`s a sneak peak. Check this out.

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DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST: Do you have any sense why you were bullied? Or why you were the target?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A lot of people told me when someone bullies someone else it`s because they`re jealous or insecure. I think they are insecure about themselves, which I feel bad for them, but yet again, they shouldn`t be bullying anyone. It completely needs to end. It should not be tolerated anywhere or with anyone.

PINSKY: Hats off, Ally. God bless you, I mean, you`re courageous.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: She also said that in her sign, she said, she was called names for being gay. So we are learning the girl`s town is now hosting a teen turmoil session on bullying. And, I mean, it does raise a very good example just last week, that this young woman said that she was bullied and harassed by students who used this kind of language that was aired without any commentary on last night`s "Celebrity Apprentice." Jim in Oregon, your question or thought?

JIM, CALLER FROM OREGON: Jane, I want to say hi to you and Lisa. We watch these shows with all this violence that kids are seeing, whether it is bullying or fighting. Finally someone was arrested on the teen mom show for assault. When are the police going to be standing outside like the Jerry Springer show arresting people who assault someone day after day after day.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look, I understand what you`re saying. I`m not talking about arresting anybody here. What I`m talking about is what is socially accepted language on television, and why is that just something that`s said and never addressed when someone made a racially insensitive comment or a blatantly sexist comment that would be addressed?

Substitute any word, any word, instead of the word gay, and I guarantee you someone would have said something about it, Wayne.

BESEN: Absolutely. But a lot of people think it`s the moral thing to do to insult gay and lesbian people. We see it all the time from the pulpit and from parents. When they try to address this bigotry up with morals and values as we see with TV preachers all the time it gives people license I think to pick on and bully LGBT teenagers.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We don`t want to equate --

BLANCO: And I want to jump in, Jane. There`s a larger perspective here, with shows like the apprentice, there`s all kinds of bullying going on in that show. They`re gossiping about each other, laughing at each other, and it makes it seem to kids, it`s OK, we`re --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wait a second, I`m not going to knock the whole show. I was actually watching the show last night and enjoying it quite a bit, because it is a very good psychological analysis of how people respond to pressure. But it upset me and kind of soured the show for me, because I was like, where did that come from and why wasn`t it addressed?

BLOOM: And Jane, you know, you say the producers had a lot of hours of footage to choose from, and that`s true. Don`t discount the possibility that they even fanned the flames, you know as well as I do in reality shows, a lot of this stuff is scripted even though it`s not scripted. They encourage the participants to go after each other, if they have a bias, voice the bias.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but they have a responsibility, something homophobic, racist, blatantly sexist to raise it as an issue and note let it skate by. That`s the danger.

BLOOM: Yes, they should.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Up next, Charlie Sheen`s violent torpedo of truth stage show hits the road. Guess what, guys, was it a violent torpedo of tedium?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thought the show was horrible, absolutely a waste of money, waste of time. Horrible.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Unreal.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sell your ticket. Awful waste of money.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Worst show ever.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s terrible.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The worst show ever.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The fans were all there until it was a dead ending, so --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That was absolutely terrible. Disappointed.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow, that`s bombing. Tonight the Charlie Sheen roller coaster ride finally hits rock bottom. I`m not talking about his notorious struggle with drug addiction, we wish he would hit bottom on that. We`re talking about his "Torpedo of Truth Tour." In a word, he tanked on Saturday in Detroit. Check it out.

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CHARLIE SHEEN, ACTOR: Who`s holding crack right now. I don`t do crack anymore. I`m just saying is. I`m just saying tonight --

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, boy, that hurts just watching for 25 seconds. Miraculously, Charlie Sheen appeared to get his act together somewhat and pull off a decent show in Chicago. Maybe "decent" isn`t the word. He did get a standing ovation. Maybe they just wanted to stretch their legs. I don`t know.

An enduring audience, maybe that`s one thing. But what it`s all about is Charlie making bank on this tour. Here in New York City, we`re on that right now, some fans are going to be coughing up $130. I will not be one of those people.

In the meantime, Sheen reportedly assured the Chicago crowd he`s not on drugs, volunteering to take a urine or blood test any time to prove it. Whatever.

Straight out to CNN`s supervising producer Rachel Wells. She was at both Sheen shows. Are you still alive? Or have you been zombiephied? Rachel, tell us what you can about this.

RACHEL WELLS, CNN PRODUCER: Hi, Jane. Yes, I just walked off the plane from Chicago. It`s been a crazy whirlwind weekend of chasing Charlie across the Midwest. In Detroit, as everyone well knows, he bombed in a big, bad, ugly way. I saw him in Chicago yesterday, completely different show, like a completely different show from the get go. He -- it`s like --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What does he say? What does he say for an hour and a half? What could he possibly say? Does anybody really care that much about his relationship with his former bosses at "Two and a Half Men"? What does he talk about?

WELLS: You know, I would have thought the same thing. I wasn`t a huge Charlie Sheen fan or -- I would have thought the same thing you`re saying. How much can this one actor carry an hour and a half?

However, in the Chicago show, the way they set it up, it was like a late night talk show. They had one of his good friends sit there and asked him questions and let him go. It was like having a funny friend in the room. He wasn`t able to go off on his wacky warlock troll brand. Someone controlled him, and it was funny, it was really funny. The Chicago crowd loved it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I think you`re drinking the Kool-Aid, Rachel.

WELLS: It`s unreal. I did think --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Charlie pulled out all the stops in Detroit, he seemed to have a winning moment when he got his porn star goddesses to kiss on stage. Now, the irony here is that one of the few things in the Detroit crowd seemed to like was something Charlie wasn`t doing. Warlock and then lip-lock -- one, two, three. What happened? They turned it off.

B.J. Hammerstein, you were there. Tell us about the lip lock and the whole warlock drama-rama.

B.J. HAMMERSTEIN, ATTENDED SHEEN`S DETROIT SHOW: Well, yes, I mean -- you want me to go?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes.

HAMMERSTEIN: Hi, Jane. You know, the lip lock, goddesses kissing. Guys like that, and the audience was filled with a lot of guys who appreciated that type of stuff. Was it the highlight of the show? Probably, it happened in the first five minutes. You know, he must have drank a lot of tiger blood to get real funny in 24 hours for Chicago.

I can`t believe the night and day difference of what I understand from Detroit to Chicago. He bombed in Detroit. He did a 20 minute rant at the beginning of the show, and it was just that stream of consciousness thought all strung together.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re going to get to more of your review. It`s a big first night for Dr. Pinsky`s new show premiering at 9:00 p.m. Rocker Sammy Hagar tells Dr. Drew about an x-files moment that sets his rock star story apart from the rest of us mere mortals. Check this out.

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SAMMY HAGAR, MUSICIAN: I`m dreaming, I`m seeing these guys in my head.

PINSKY: What do they look like?

HAGAR: A beam of light. And they were kind of blue. And with no features because it was a close up, it was kind of -- and I`m dreaming, and they`re going, oh, he`s waking up, we got to end this, right? But it wasn`t language spoken, it was a telepathy thing. I felt like there was a cord plugged into my head. But it was in my home. It was one of those dreams in which everything was the same. I think it was a download and upload situation, like an experimental thing, like I was a guinea pig.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The camera lens can only show you so much. With the natural eye, when you get to look over the horizon for mile after mile after mile of oil, no, you`re not getting the real picture unless you`re actually there and see it, smell it, taste it.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: An oil rig explodes in the Gulf of Mexico, instantly killing 11 workers and dumping something like 200 million gallons of oil into the environment. It was and continues to be one of the worst man made environmental disasters in history. Look at it.

Less than a year later guess who has a big fat bonus, and guess why they earn those big fat bonuses? Top executives at Transocean, the company that leased the failed oil drilling rig to beat the just pocketed huge, so- called safety bonuses. Transocean says senior managers got big checks for the, quote, "best year in safety performance in our company`s history." The CEO`s bonus was something like $375,000.

I`ll get to Transocean`s response for our request for comment. Straight out to Al Walker, a chatter boat captain and underwater photographer who witnessed the revolting destruction caused by the rig explosion. Captain Al, I should say, your reaction to your comments they`ve had the best year in safety.

CAPT. AL WALKER, UNDERWATER PHOTOGRAPHER: Well, I`d like to say that they could take some of that money and dedicate it to properly remediating our marshes and also contributing some of that money to get some proper blood testing which still has not been done to date.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Are you angry about your statement? Does it make you mad? It makes my blood boil.

WALKER: The whole thing makes us mad. The whole thing is the fact of the matter that our marshes are still saturated with oil, plastics as far as the eye can see, and they`re getting big giant bonuses and we`re looking at this crap all over everywhere.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So it`s still a problem?

WALKER: It makes me angry.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s still a problem today?

WALKER: Absolutely, it`s a problem. As I told your producers today, I strongly and willingly invite you along with BP or anybody else come out with cameras and visit these marshes just covered in oil still today. No workers nowhere are to be found. Since the last time I spoke to you --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Unbelievable.

WALKER: The last time I spoke to you I volunteered my time to environmental groups such as Louisiana environmental action network and Stewart smith of Smith Stag law firm. They`re not backing up. They`re telling the truth. I`m volunteering my time to everybody that`s telling the truth. So all these bonuses that Feinberg is getting and Transocean is getting to simply cover this thing up, I`ll let them know this right now. We`re not going anywhere.

The fact of the matter -- it is arrogant and the fact of the matter that people did die. Accidents do happen. If the accident could have been prevented --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Coming back. I want you to talk to these people.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: What would you say to executives that gave themselves bonuses and congratulated themselves on the safety they were responsible for one of the worst oil disaster in history?

WALKER: I would say you don`t deserve it, you don`t deserve any bonuses for contributing this much harm to mother nature and mankind. You don`t deserve it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know what? I asked my producer, can I say I hope they rot in hell? She said, well, you -- maybe you say they should be ashamed of themselves. You know what I say? May they rot in hell.

Nancy Grace is up next.

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