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Piers Morgan Live
Interview with George Michael; Interview with Kim Cattrall
Aired April 15, 2011 - 21:00 ET
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PIERS MORGAN, HOST: Tonight, a PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT exclusive, the wedding of a century and a gift of a lifetime.
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MORGAN: George Michael records a royal wedding song as a present for Prince William and Catherine Middleton. And tonight, he debuts it here exclusively and you'll hear it just minutes from now.
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MORGAN: And the woman who put the sex in "Sex in the City," the lovely Kim Cattrall.
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KIM CATTRALL, ACTRESS: Wow, where do we go from here?
MORGAN: I don't know, but I'm hoping somewhere nice.
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MORGAN: If all you know about her is Samantha Jones -- well, you have a lot to learn. Trust me.
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CATTRALL: I've gone where few women have gone before.
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MORGAN: Kim Cattrall on her life, her loves, and, yes, on sex.
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CATTRALL: Don't make me into your dirty mind.
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MORGAN: This is PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT.
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MORGAN: Good evening.
The royal wedding -- perhaps the wedding of the century -- is just two weeks away. There was rehearsal today at Westminster Abbey in London with bride-to-be Kate Middleton, her bridesmaids, the page boys, and Prince Harry all in attendance. William stayed in Wales with his Royal Air Force unit.
But we have our own wedding exclusive tonight, the world premiere of a new song that George Michael has recorded as a gift for the royal couple.
And George joins me now to explain what this is all about.
George, tell me all about this song. What gave you the idea for this?
GEORGE MICHAEL, MUSICIAN: Well, it's actually very, very -- well, the idea came to me last week, actually, about a week ago, that I should -- that I should, perhaps, kind of express my happiness at this marriage in a way publicly. You know, it was a very beautiful summer -- it wasn't summer's day. But it was an April day that happened to be like summer here in London.
And I was twittering and kind of got carried away and decided I was going to make them a new track. Give everybody on Twitter and William and Kate a new track by Friday. So, I've had a very busy week.
And the strange thing about this song, actually, considering I think it's probably the best two days work I've ever done in my life, two or three days work, is that when I was a child, I dreamt of singing this song in my imagination. You know, my idea of fame at the time was the school assembly hall. I was about 12. And I had this record, this Stevie Wonder song. And I used to dream of singing it in school assembly hall. But I guess this is slightly bigger deal than that.
MORGAN: We're going to reveal the name of the song a little later when we actually play it for the first time, anyone in the world. It's very exciting. I can give a little hit that I wooed my wife with this song and Barack Obama wooed Michelle Obama with this song and played it at their wedding. So, you have chosen a -- well, an unbelievably romantic, historic song for this, George.
MICHAEL: Well, I think the compliment in terms of Obama, and I hope your wife doesn't blame me for you guys getting together.
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MORGAN: I wanted to talk to you, George, about your relationship with the royal family, because I obviously used to run several newspapers in Britain. And during that time, you and Diana were known to be good friends, and you had lots of fun times with her. Tell me about that.
MICHAEL: Well, I mean, we had a lot of -- we spent a lot of time together as friends and quite often, it would be just the two of us and she'd always talk about how much she missed the boys. And how she kind of had her reservations about doing what her parents had done, sending them to boarding school.
But, you know, of course, they had a -- it's not, you know, it's all very well -- she loved to take them to places like Marks & Spencer and make sure they cued and make sure they understood that other people were just as important as them, and -- which is very typical of her. But I think she understood to prepare for a royal future, you're not really going to make it if your education is down to the local comprehensive, you know?
So, I think the whole boarding thing she found very difficult, but was absolutely I think a fantastic mother. And I think, you know, I don't think there's any doubt that the child must have done a lot right in the years since she died because how else would those two boys have survived so amazingly well? You know, I think they must have a great father as well as having had a great mother. Although, I don't know Charles, you know?
MORGAN: Yes, I met Charles a few times. I completely agree. I think that they've got bits of both their parents. And I think Charles and Diana -- if she was looking down -- would be proud on the way they turned out.
What was interesting to me, George, is I remember -- unless I'm mistaken -- that you were once invited at a palace private function to sing for Prince William and you turned him down.
MICHAEL: Yes, I did. I know. It was a day I would have been taken to the town for that, wasn't there? I told people on Twitter last week that I was going to the tower, that it was, you know, first left to the lights after Morrisons and over the bridge.
Actually, I thing is, it was a very, very awful thing to have to do to say no to him because he's such a lovely man -- such a lovely kid, you know? But the fact was I was at a Christmas party that Diana invited me to at Kensington Palace. The only other person I knew there was Elton.
And William came up to me -- the two came up to me. William asked me. He said, would it be OK if you sang a song, maybe Uncle Elton could play the piano? I was just -- I can't deal with singing in front of small crowds, so I had to say no. And it was, you know, it was excruciating.
You know, he was very polite about it. I can't believe I have to say no to probably, you know, the future king of England. I really was too embarrassed to sing in front of strangers, you know? But I remember that -- I remember that night very, very well.
MORGAN: George, I mean, have you had any contact with the palace in relation this song that you've done?
MICHAEL: Only through a mutual friend who gave me -- I gave him the name of the song that I was going to sing and asked him at least to run it by them. If I was going to make a present, a wedding gift, I thought, you know, there's no point if it's a song they don't like. So, I ran the song by them. And while I was doing the vocal the other day, I got a text from my -- our mutual friend who basically said they loved the song and they'd be happy for you to go ahead with it.
So -- and also the main thing about doing the song as a gift for them is not just a gift for them, it's a gift that they will be able to hopefully turn into many, many donations for the royal charity, the royalweddingcharityfund.org that is, you know -- which is where they asked people to give money rather than send presents of any description. I don't know if that includes the people at the actual wedding, I don't know if they've given out their toasters and their, you know, their - the wedding list, as it were, but seems very generously that they have, yes.
So, anyway, I would really like for any of my fans, or anybody who really enjoys this track, if they're going to download it for free, which is absolutely what I'm willing to do, I would like them to go to Kate and William's charity site and make a donation. You know, if they're genuinely happy for these two people, which I think a lot of people are, you know?
MORGAN: George, obviously, the whole world will be watching this wedding in a couple weeks. What do you think it means for Britain and indeed for the royal family to have such global attention?
MICHAEL: I think -- I think it -- well, there are two things about this wedding. I think, one, it kind of reaffirms that people have no real intention of trying to get rid of them, which is great.
And the other thing is I think it really kind of -- it really shows how romantic we still are. I mean, especially in such a dreadful time. You know, there are so many terrible things going on at the moment, so many people are struggling in this country and many other countries.
But the idea of two four-day holidays, because you have to understand, if you don't live in England, that we have two four-day holidays with three days of work in between just about to happen in England, which has never happened, I think, Piers, in my history. What about you? What about you?
MORGAN: No.
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MICHAEL: No? I just think -- I think --
MORGAN: Unthinkable.
MICHAEL: -- people are going to go crazy. I really do.
I can think of a lot of people who will be taking three days off in a couple of weeks' time.
MORGAN: Tell me, George -- obviously, you knew Diana better than many people. What do you think she would have made of Kate, who obviously she never got a chance to meet?
MICHAEL: Oh, I think she probably would have thought there was no woman good enough for her son, probably like most women. But I think she probably would have loved her, wouldn't she?
MORGAN: Yes, I think so. She seems a very sweet girl, doesn't she?
MICHAEL: Yes, I think she seems very sweet. And she's also a complete -- she's a cracker, isn't she? She's great looking. She's great looking. I think the boy done well.
MORGAN: I didn't know you knew such things about that, George.
MICHAEL: Of course not. Of course not.
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MORGAN: We're going to put the end of the show, the details exactly how everyone watching and your fans back in England, in particular, can listen to the song and then hopefully make donations to the charity. It obviously means a lot to you that you've done this. I'm sure it will to William and Kate. I mean, what kind of message would you give to them on the big day when it comes up?
MICHAEL: Oh, I think they should -- I don't think they need any advice from me. I think the message I would give -- I'm just incredibly happy for both of them. And more than anything, you know, there was a kind of -- I have quite an emotional attachment to what's going on here because I felt so bad for those boys when she passed away, and having experienced losing my mother about three or four months before that, that day was very, very strange for me.
And also, you know, when I think of what -- the devastation of losing my mother, the idea of going through that when you're not into your teens or barely into your teens is just -- I just -- I can't just -- words can't describe how much admiration I have for the way that they've both coped with it and especially when, you know, the media has made it so much more difficult for them. I'm just incredibly happy for -- incredibly happy for William, incredibly happy for his partner, and I absolutely am sure that Diana would have loved the whole thing, you know?
And I really hope that she would have loved this track. I have a feeling, she would have done -- she was a big fan and she had a copy of "Older," which is obviously an album about bereavement, about four or five months before it went out into the public eye, and she loved it. And I did once see a documentary where William was playing that album which makes me think that he found it comforting. And it was an album about bereavement. So, I was very touched by that.
The whole thing has kind of different levels of meaning for me. And I'm just incredibly happy that they're letting me actually, you know, have some part of the benefit site, the charity site, you know? Or at least they're letting me share some of the attention for this amazing day in a way to raise money, you know, which is great. MORGAN: Well, George, it's very exciting. I'm sure they're going to love it. We're going to come back at the end of the hour with the world premiere of your song for Prince William and Kate Middleton. I'm going to reveal what the song is.
But, coming up for now, the lovely Kim Cattrall.
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MORGAN: Look up femme fatale in the dictionary, and you'll probably see a picture of Kim Cattrall or, at least, you should. She's an ageless beauty who's brought the sizzle to movies and television for 30 years. And tonight, she shares those sizzling secrets, hopefully, with me.
Kim, what are you? I bet if I meet you at various places around the globe, and you're normally next to someone like Colin Firth, and they're always looking at you with fondness -- let's put it politely -- in their eyes.
KIM CATTRALL, ACTRESS: How sweet.
MORGAN: You are like the absolute sort of personification of the modern-day sex symbol, aren't you?
CATTRALL: Wow, where do we go from here?
MORGAN: I don't know, but I'm hoping somewhere nice.
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CATTRALL: No, you have tsunamis to take care of and earthquakes. Well, that's very kind of you to say.
MORGAN: You do, though. You radiate sex. People think of you --
CATTRALL: Oh, I do?
MORGAN: Yes, because you're the one who put the "sex" in "Sex in the City." Nobody else really wanted to watch it, the other three having sex. It just didn't work.
CATTRALL: Oh, my God. Well, I -- I don't know, it depends on who you talk to, I guess. It was -- it was a great joy to be part of that, and I so enjoyed it.
I think -- I think the dangerous thing is that people sort of associate you, if you play a character over a long period of time, which I had Samantha. I think it's, like, 13 years now, off and on. And I think people do associate with me.
So, it gets kind of confusing. I think people are -- they see me, but there's images in their head that have nothing to do with me and my sexuality, more Samantha.
MORGAN: Go on. How similar are you?
CATTRALL: Well, we look similar. We don't have -- I -- we certainly don't feel the same way about men.
MORGAN: In what way?
CATTRALL: Well, I'm sort of a serial monogamist.
MORGAN: Are you?
CATTRALL: Yes, I am. I know.
MORGAN: That's interesting.
CATTRALL: I've had -- the relationships that I've been in have been, usually, for five, six, seven, eight years. I've been married twice, and those relationships have lasted quite a while. Whereas Samantha, you know, she's -- she's onto the next very quickly.
MORGAN: So, how have you managed to be monogamous in an era when it's so unfashionable?
CATTRALL: Well, I think that I fall in love. I fall in love very deeply, and I get to know the person, and we spend time together, usually we share a lot of interests.
And I invest a lot. I like to nurture. I don't have children, so the relationship is a way for me to express that kind of nurturing. And I enjoy being in a relationship very much.
I find dating, especially now, over the Internet with texts and e-mails quite confusing, because you really miss the physical contact with someone, actually spending time with them. And Skype doesn't really cut it.
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CATTRALL: As much as I like Skype.
But I think it's -- being singe at this time is not what I expected. I expected to definitely be in a relationship for, you know, a number of years.
MORGAN: Is it -- I mean, it must be very difficult to date if it's you. You are intimidating to men, just purely from this character, aren't you?
CATTRALL: Well, I --
MORGAN: They must be terrified, these poor guys.
CATTRALL: Well, Piers, I think it's difficult to date, period. I think it's difficult to meet people, especially -- you know, I'm in my 50s now. So, I think it gets harder as you get older, because I think most people meet their spouse, you know, when they're in college or some high school, some college, and then through work, and then you have a family, and then you, you know, go from there.
But I think pretty much you know who your friends -- you've dated quite a few people within that circle, and you have to go outside of that circle, and that's sometimes tough.
Luckily, I've been spending the last six years a lot, as you know, in London and working there and meeting a whole new, you know, family base, friend base over there.
MORGAN: And how are you finding British men?
CATTRALL: Interesting. Very interesting. A little hard to read. But, basically, I think with men, the thing that you have to do is you have to really spell it out. I think it's -- it's sort of interesting to be flirting and the whole game that goes on with this. You know, it's very time consuming.
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CATTRALL: It can be. In the sense of, oh, well, there's a -- that person looks interesting. He's probably married, gay, separated, wounded, children, oh -- where do I go? And then, you start all of it again.
MORGAN: So, if there are any single, good-looking guys, what kind of age range would you prefer?
CATTRALL: Well, I'm -- I like men around my age. I've been with older men, younger men. And I think it's time to stay within my --
MORGAN: Samantha would never do that, would she?
CATTRALL: No, no, no, no. I think -- I think Samantha, that character, has an insatiable appetite and all comers are welcome.
MORGAN: You've written books about sex, haven't you?
CATTRALL: Well, I've written two books, one with -- for couples about sex, and it was about communication more than anything else. And the second book was a history of sexual desire, which I also did a documentary about -- which was interesting -- for HBO and Discovery Channel.
And then, I did a book called "Being a Girl," which was for young women. My niece, at the time, was turning 13, 14, when "Sex in the City" hit.
And I think that a lot of those images were confusing for young teenage girls, and I wanted to sort of reach out, because that was a difficult time for me. My parents got divorced in that period of time, and I wanted to kind of explain that this show is really about adult women doing very adult things. And being sexual has a real responsibility attached to it, which I wanted to enforce in young girls' minds.
MORGAN: We're going to see a little clip of Samantha in action. CATTRALL: Sure.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We know it was you who buzzed in the gunman.
CATTRALL AS SAMANTHA JONES, "SEX IN THE CITY": Excuse me?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You always have guests coming in. Every time I'm in this elevator, you're with a different man.
JONES: That's ridiculous.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here's your floor, ma'am.
JONES: Oh. Yes. Excuse me.
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CATTRALL: So much fun to play.
MORGAN: You said to me that this was -- done at 4:00 in the morning.
CATTRALL: Yes. We did a lot of 19-hour shows -- 19-hour days on that --
MORGAN: And those steamy elevator romps at 4:00 in the morning, it can't be easy, is it?
CATTRALL: Hey, you know? It's certainly fun. Yes. "Can I pull this off?" That was always the -- my thinking behind any scenario that was written for Samantha. "Can I -- can I pull this off?" I've gone where few women have gone before, yes.
MORGAN: What have you learned about marriage and sex and relationships over the years, do you think?
CATTRALL: Well, I think it's -- it's not as easy as it looks. And I think it's a tremendous amount of compromise. And they say it's the "C-word," and it's a scary word, and sometimes it is. But I -- we have so many balls to juggle, now, as professional women -- you know, to be a mother and to be a mate and to also be a working person in the world. And it gets -- it doesn't get less complicated.
With these little machines that we carry along, they make it even more complicated, because I spend so much time doing so much more. And it's a --
MORGAN: If you had your time again, would you work as hard, or would you put more time into the marriages you had or other relationships? Do you feel that you've had to compromise in your private life?
CATTRALL: I felt that -- I did compromise a lot at the beginning. And both of my husbands, their workload was very heavy. And I think that I -- I did very much try to even that out and communicate and say, "Well, if I take this job outside of the season of the series, you know, is that all right with you?" I would always attempt to do that.
But I think, ultimately, my work has usually been my priority, because I get -- that's something that just -- it fulfills something in me that a relationship so far, I don't think -- that's eluded me.
MORGAN: What kind of man have you worked out suits you best? Other than present company, I must say.
CATTRALL: Of course. Well, I -- you know, I think that I'm very passionate about my work and my job, and I think to find someone who feels that way -- but I'm also at an age where I've worked very hard and been very, very lucky. And I'd like to take some time off, too.
So, that's -- fortunately, that's the position I find myself at this time in my life. And I want to be able to live and also work. Not just live to work.
MORGAN: Do you hold out hope of another marriage? Do you remain romantic about marriage?
CATTRALL: Yes, I do, to an extent. But I'm also realistic, and I think, you know, one of the main reasons that people do get married is to create a home for children, and that's not going to happen. So --
MORGAN: Do you regret that?
CATTRALL: Some ways. But I find that there's very many ways to be a mother in the world. And I have nieces and nephews, and I have young actors who are trying to make a go of it. And in some ways, that's what I'm here for, is to pass the baton. You know, that's ultimately what I so enjoy doing with the young generation of actors, because it's a tough road.
Now, I think, more than ever, everything is scrutinized. You know, what you wear, who you're with, what's going on, what job you took, what you didn't take. There's so much information that's coming at you.
And I have a tremendous amount of sympathy for these young girls who come to Hollywood, and they get success very, very early on. And then what happens? Then, they're has-been. And it's not just with actors or actresses. I mean, this whole phenomenon of reality TV, which you're somewhat responsible for --
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MORGAN: Thank you. CATTRALL: Which is -- you're a star overnight, and how do you adjust to that? I mean, I had, really, decades of experience and building confidence and sort of knowing more about who I was before what I was supposed to be or do.
And that's something, you know, why I go back to the stage in the West End and try and do different kinds of roles to say, you know, this is -- Samantha was a great role that I played, but I'm also an actress that had a career before and, hopefully, after.
And that's why, to me, mixing it up is so exciting at this time, because I can. I mean, to make a film like "Meet Monica Velour" --
MORGAN: Well, we're going to come to this --
CATTRALL: -- which is --
MORGAN: -- because --
CATTRALL: -- which is about a woman in her 50s. You know, it's not about a teenage girl.
MORGAN: Well, you're missing the key part, the elephant in the room, which is that you play a down-on-her-luck porn star.
CATTRALL: Yes, yes. Porn star/stripper.
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CATTRALL: Yes, don't forget that.
MORGAN: Well, I cannot wait to come back after the break and discuss this in more detail.
CATTRALL: Terrific.
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CATTRALL: Now that you got my personal life out of the way.
MORGAN: Well, partly.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Babe we, we got to get together, party sometime.
Yeah, woo.
CATTRALL: Sure, how's never? Is never a good time?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got 20 bucks.
CATTRALL: That's my real name, Linda Rominoli. You probably already knew that. And my shoe size and blood type, too.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Eight and a half, I don't know your blood type.
(END VIDEO CLIP) ' MORGAN: That was a clip from Kim Cattrall's new movie "meet Monica velour." You play a sort of slightly down on her luck, down on her weight you were telling me -- you put on 20 pounds to play this part.
CATTRALL: I did.
MORGAN: Porn star stripper. You've been trying to move away from Samantha, dare I say, you haven't strayed too far. You've gotten to where I imagine some people imagine Samantha will end up.
CATTRALL: No, I don't think so. Samantha is way too powerful and smart to end up -- this is actually -- the thing that I loved about this film is that I usually play characters who are very strong willed and hopeful. And this was a character who had no hope. She's sort of backed herself into a corner. She's fighting for the custody of her young daughter and gone through a horrific divorce.
And she was a big star in the late '70s, in the '80s. Huge, huge porno star. Here's a woman who uses sex as power. And here's a woman who's powerless and --
MORGAN: You said to Samantha, right, you're going to put on 20 pounds, she wouldn't even think of it.
CATTRALL: No, no, no, no, to.
MORGAN: How do you put on the weight?
CATTRALL: Fantastic.
MORGAN: Eat donuts?
CATTRALL: You can eat whatever the hell you want and you can have as much of it. My whole life -- you know, I'm cursed with a huge appetite. So my whole life for food. So my whole life I have been on a diet. Literally, as soon as I was signed by an agent, the first thing you said is you're really talented, you're terrific, but you have to lose ten pounds or five pounds or something.
So my whole life has been this stingy existence. So someone finally gives me a part where I can eat what I want, drink what I want, do what I want. We're filming in Michigan September, October. After work, you can have a couple drinks. You can go out and have a late meal with dessert.
MORGAN: Fried chicken.
CATTRALL: You name it, pizza.
MORGAN: How many seconds did it take you to lose the weight once the movie finished?
CATTRALL: As I said to a friend of mine, it was heaven putting it on. It was freaking hell taking it off. It was so difficult. And I didn't work out, which was even better. It was a dream job in that way.
When I turned 35, I got half the amount of scripts that I got as a young actress. Then I turned 40 and "Sex and the City" happened and we sort of pushed the boundaries back for the age of 40. Now 50, it's is a whole new territory.
MORGAN: Do you like being in your 50s?
CATTRALL: I love it.
MORGAN: Why?
CATTRALL: Because I know who I am.
MORGAN: Who are you?
CATTRALL: I am -- I'm Kim. I don't think so much Kim Cattrall, because I think people have an image of that.
MORGAN: Who is Kim?
CATTRALL: I think she's a woman in her 50s who's had a terrific, terrific career and has been, you know, very fulfilled in that and has been courageous and strong and lonely sometimes and crazy sometimes and very insecure and also very confident. I guess I'm just like any human being. I'm very, very flawed and human.
MORGAN: Because of the character you played so long, and hopefully will continue to -- we'll come to that -- do you find that when you walk into rooms, there's an expectation of this sexual --
CATTRALL: definitely. Definitely. I've spoken about this many times. I feel that I walk into the room as Kim and everyone's slightly disappointed because I don't have the bon mot. You know, I don't have the thing to say or the joke or, you know.
MORGAN: You did with me. I saw you at a lunch with Colin Firth. You came up and you sidelined up to me and you said--
CATTRALL: I did not sidle up to you.
MORGAN: You said you have a very big one, very impressive.
CATTRALL: No, I did not. I did not say that. This is how you perceived it.
MORGAN: You were talking about the billboard in Times Square.
CATTRALL: I'd been in London doing a play the last how many months. And I said, I come home, I'm driving through Times Square -- it's the biggest -- it's one of the biggest billboards that I've ever seen.
MORGAN: You didn't say billboard.
CATTRALL: You said -- yes, I did. Then you said to me, I've got the biggest -- you picked it up. Don't make me into your dirty mind.
MORGAN: Trying to absorb your sins now, it's fine with me. I'm too gentlemanly not to let you do that.
CATTRALL: Yes.
MORGAN: Has that led to moments when you felt -- has it been occasionally -- you hinted at it -- being lonely, being the real woman behind Samantha?
CATTRALL: Can be, yes. Can be. I think -- I go into a lot of locations, you know. And I'm far away from my family and friends. There's night after a long day's rehearsal or something, I come home and I think, hmm, OK. And I pop out a book or I'm reading or whatever. I sort of think, oh, I wish I was home more.
I think you go through that at any age as an actor. It can be very isolating. That's why you need friends. That's why you need family.
MORGAN: We're going to come back and talk about your family, because there was this extraordinary show that aired both in Britain and America about your family, in which you made this incredible discovery, where you found that you had this grandfather you'd never known, who led a completely double life for years and years and years without anyone realizing. So we'll come back and talk about that in a moment.
CATTRALL: Sure.
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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's Irene. That's Isabelle.
CATTRALL: So he was in the navy?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
CATTRALL: And he wasn't a hero?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't think so.
CATTRALL: I don't think so either.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MORGAN: That was a clip from "Who Do You Think You Are?" Kim, it was obviously for us an extraordinary program to watch. For you, an extraordinary thing to discover about your life, that your grandfather, your mother's father, who had vanished back in the '30s, had gone and set up a completely different life.
He'd married somebody else, had four children. None of you knew anything about this.
CATTRALL: Well, the extraordinary thing was that he didn't go very far. He was literally 30 miles away when he met and married another woman and started a family. I think that if I had known going in what was ahead of me, I don't know if I would have done it.
I mean, my instincts were that it wasn't going to be a very good ending for anyone, but it was one of the most difficult things I've ever had to do. And I felt somewhat responsible. At the end of this program, you come to your family and you tell them what you've discovered.
And this was a 72-year-old mystery. He had left when my mother was eight and had asked her to go with him. And she refused and stayed with her mother and her two other sisters. What he left them with was absolutely nothing. They were begging in the streets in front of pubs in Liverpool, which was post the depression and pre- World War II.
It was a very, very bad time. Liverpool was very badly hit. So to go on this trail and find out what he did, it got more and more upsetting for me. When I had to sit down with my mother and her two sisters and tell them the outcome of what happened to him, it was probably one of the more difficult things I ever had to do.
Family really is -- yes, it's nature, but it's also -- it's nurture. You have relationships with people over a period of time. I don't have any connection to them. So even though now we know the truth, I don't know --
MORGAN: -- for all sides --
CATTRALL: it was horrific.
MORGAN: For them, for your family, for everybody.
CATTRALL: It was. It was. The camera is right there on you. You don't want to cry. You're trying so desperately to hold on and trying to be cool about this and try to withdraw your emotions. You can't.
MORGAN: Is there going to be any more "Sex and the City"? I have to ask.
CATTRALL: I really don't know. I think that we're sort of one of the last people to know. First of all, there's a script -- first of all, there's an OK, then a script. I think that everybody is so scattered doing so many other things. I don't know if we'll ever bring it together.
MORGAN: Would you like to?
CATTRALL: To me, again, it's script driven. It think if there's more stories to tell and they're fun and there's an audience for them -- we make these movies for the fans. We certainly don't make them for the critics. We never did.
MORGAN: But it does well. You can't argue. It's like all things, you're to popular. You're going to get whacked.
CATTRALL: Exactly.
MORGAN: I enjoyed the movies.
CATTRALL: Thank you.
MORGAN: I really did.
CATTRALL: I enjoyed making them.
MORGAN: I'd like to see another one.
CATTRALL: Well, great.
MORGAN: Are you all still mates or do you all hate each other?
CATTRALL: I don't know where this comes from. This sells newspapers like "The Daily Mirror."
Very, very popular. No, we always had a great working relationship. And you know, we spent 19-hour days together. And that was fantastic. But on the weekends, you want to kind of just be at home sleeping, learning your lines for Sunday and Monday. You know, it's just a crazy schedule.
So when we get together, it's terrific. But we all have very, very different lives, very separate lives. But we text or e-mail when something's going on, whatever. We get together, baby showers, whatever.
MORGAN: If I can interview in five years time, what would you like to have happened to you in the next five years?
CATTRALL: I would very much like to continue the road that I'm on, which is, you know, playing parts. The great canyon of roles for women on stage is just tremendous. Doing "private lives" in the west end last year was a big thrill. Then of course "Cleopatra." Now Monica Velour (ph).
I want to continue to do these small independent films. Hollywood I don't think yet offers great opportunity for women in their 50s. I mean, there's very few female-driven films out there for women my age. So I have been very fortunate, going to Europe and working with Polanski and Peter Hall, Richard Eirlies (ph), really wonderful directors who are doing still -- investing so much in their new projects and on sort of the firing line of creatively what makes them tick.
MORGAN: What about personally? Where would you like to be in five years? CATTRALL: I'd definitely like to be in a relationship and -- with someone who gets what I do and is, you know, supportive and behind what I've always been doing, which is following my heart's desire, which is to work as an actor.
MORGAN: On and off screen, I wish you all the very best of luck. It's been a pleasure meeting you.
CATTRALL: Real pleasure spending time.
MORGAN: Yeah. Take care.
Coming up, the world premiere of the song George Michael recorded for the wedding of Prince William and Katherine Middleton.
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MORGAN: I'm back now with George Michael for the world premiere of the song that he's recorded especially for the wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton.
George, you went to Twitter to ask your fans to suggest a song that they could come up with. Have you based your final decision on a suggestion that came that way?
GEORGE MICHAEL, SINGER: Well, no, to be perfect -- to be totally truthful, which I tend to like to be, I had this idea initially, but I thought that one, maybe they wouldn't like the idea, so I wanted something else as I =-- because I hadn't recorded anything yet. And it was a matter of making a decision in the last couple of days.
So I thought if anyone comes up with any great ideas and, by any chance, Kate and William don't like the song, then I would have some other ideas. But I think this one was the perfect one. So I have to say this was my idea. Sorry, Twitter.
MORGAN: We can put everyone out of their suspense now, George. And so tell me what the song is.
MICHAEL: The song is called "You and I." It was recorded in 1972 and written in 1972 by the wonderful Mr. Stevie Wonder, who has just this evening waived the rights until way after the wedding. So that's great news. It's al free. So you can download it to your heart's content.
MORGAN: People can see go on to the PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT website. They can see details of how to get to your website, GeorgeMichael.com, and also to the royal website themselves, where they can make a charitable donation. The more the merrier. I think it's a great cause, George. It's a great idea.
I think it's entirely in keeping. It's a beautiful song, George. I am thrilled that you have given us this global scoop. And we are now going to play "You and I" by George Michael.
Thank you very much, George. (SINGING)
MORGAN: Sharon and Kelly Osbourne have a relationship that's not exactly rated PG. They're smart, opinionated ladies, not afraid to speak their minds. And they did exactly that when we sat down for an hour-long interview.
Listen to what they had to say about the royals.
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MORGAN: When you see the pressure, Kelly, of the young royals, can you relate to that, given that you came in through a sort of rock star royalty yourself? Is it a particular pressure that only the kids of famous people understand?
KELLY OSBOURNE, SINGER: That's a completely different level. I can't even compare myself to them, because I don't have an entire country looking at me. I just have -- you know, it's a different level.
SHARON OSBOURNE, "THE OSBOURNES": But every move they make, everything they say it's critiqued, it's commented on. They're not allowed to make their mistakes privately.
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MORGAN: You can feel -- I can feel it. This is getting like Charles and Diana at the wedding, isn't it. It's getting to that level where America is going completely crazy. When that happens, these kids -- and they are kids. They're in their mid-20s. Their lives will never be the same again, even by the standards William's had before, it's going to be stratospheric for them.
For her, who has just come into this family, just like Diana, huge pressure, isn't it?
S. OSBOURNE: Oh, amazing. You know, from now on, her life will never be the same again, ever, in good and bad.
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MORGAN: That's Sharon and Kelly Osbourne for the hour on Monday. That's it for us tonight. Here's my colleague, John King, who is filling in for Anderson Cooper.