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Arrests Made in Alleged New York City Terror Plot; Bin Laden's Journal; Romney's 'Obamacare Problem'; Rockets Strike Gadhafi Compound; Oil Prices Out of Whack; Osama Bin Laden Death Photos; Real Life Rocket Man; Rare Red Wolf Pups Born; 'Unicorns, Ponies' on Capitol Hill

Aired May 12, 2011 - 16:00   ET

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Police bust a major terror plot. It involves guns, grenades and New York City. So, who or what was the target?

I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.

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BALDWIN (voice-over): Osama bin Laden apparently obsessed with Americans -- new information about what he wrote in his private journal, including plans to kill right here in the United States.

Gas prices, they are rising, but so are the profits of oil giants. Today, their CEOs are in the hot seat, and at least one lawmaker says it is all nonsense.

SEN. ORRIN HATCH (R), UTAH: I have a chart depicting what I expect this hearing to turn into. I know who the horse's ass is. I will put it that way.

BALDWIN: Find out how this affects what you pay at the pump.

The backlash begins. A new movie reveals a graphic picture of Princess Diana as she took her final breaths.

SIR JOHN STEVENS, FORMER MET POLICE COMMISSIONER: Never, ever see the light of day. That shouldn't happen.

BALDWIN: CNN takes an inside look at this documentary asking, was Di's death an accident or murder?

Two hundred miles an hour over the Grand Canyon -- find out how this daredevil defied death and gravity, all the while wearing a jet pack and spandex.

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BALDWIN: Welcome back. Hour two of CNN NEWSROOM rolls on. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

Want to begin this hour with that police sting operation. It has led to a bust in an alleged terror plot in New York City. Two men were arrested just last night after one of them allegedly tried to buy three guns and a grenade from, of all people, undercover police.

According to New York Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, the suspects wanted to blow up synagogues. And one of the suspects wanted to buy more weapons. Listen to this.

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RAYMOND KELLY, NEW YORK CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER: He said he wanted to obtain more handguns, silencers, a box of hand grenades, bullet-resistant vests, and police radios. By way of explanation, Ferhani said, using an expletive, that he was fed up with the way Muslims were being treated around the world. "They're treating us like dogs."

In addition to discussing the bombing of synagogues -- quote -- "one after another" -- unquote -- Ferhani also expressed interest in bombing the Empire State Building.

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BALDWIN: Investigators describe these suspects as lone wolves. They were following one of -- one of them for some time, one of these lone wolves. Listen to the Manhattan DA describe the suspects' alleged aspirations.

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CYRUS VANCE, MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY: While this defendant is not charged at this time with membership in any terrorist cell, make no mistake, he was very clear about what he wanted to do, get guns, get explosives, blow up synagogues, and kill Jews. He was committed to violent jihad and his plans became bigger and more violent with each passing week.

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BALDWIN: Those suspects have been charged under New York State's terrorism law and the state's hate crime law. Both men are scheduled to appear in court later today.

I want to bring in Detective Steve Rogers with the Nutley, New Jersey, Police Department. He's a former member of the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force.

Detective, thanks for coming on.

LT. STEVE ROGERS:, NUTLEY, NEW JERSEY, POLICE DEPARTMENT: You're welcome.

BALDWIN: I want to begin with something we heard from Police Commissioner Ray Kelly talking about the motive here of these two guys, saying that they were fed up with how Muslims were treated around the world.

So, we are hearing a little bit more about motive and also wanting to go after synagogue after synagogue and the Empire State Building. What do you make of that?

ROGERS: Well, you have lone wolves who are emotionally involved in trying to do something that would cause throw mayhem and terror. I mean, if you are talking about blowing up synagogue after synagogue after synagogue, you have got a real problem on your hands.

But note this, that the reason why the FBI probably didn't take the lead on this is because they were lone wolves. And lone wolves, homegrown terrorists, are the most dangerous type of terrorists, because they are hard to detect.

BALDWIN: Well, let's talk about that, because, first of all, we are hearing from police. They are saying, look, that this plot was, you know, months in the making, prior to the bin Laden compound raid, so not at all related. You have the Homeland Security Department coming out earlier this week and saying, warning, watch out for these lone wolves. Why are they so frightening and why might we see more of this?

ROGERS: Well, they are so frightening because they are usually working under the radar. If you have a terrorist organization working, there would be a lot of chatter over the Internet, perhaps where you would be able intervene telephone calls, cell phone calls.

These lone wolves work pretty much together in closed quarters. Now, it's very important that, since we have these alerts regarding these homegrown terrorists, that the American people understand the greatest asset in this war on terrorism here at home are the people who live and work in our neighborhoods.

So, when people see something suspicious, they have got to make that telephone call.

BALDWIN: So, they make the telephone call, keep their eyes and ears, you know, peeled for anything perhaps suspicious, but what about you working now with New Jersey police? How does this sort of warning change the way you do your job?

ROGERS: Well, here's something very interesting that the American people need to know. The collaboration, the work that local police departments now do with regional joint terrorism task forces and the FBI is so extensive that you're going to, if, in the -- if in the event another homegrown terrorist cell, if you will, grows, you will see these people get caught. And this is the result of a lot of sharing of information...

BALDWIN: Undercover police work.

ROGERS: ... a lot of collection of intelligence, undercover police work. There's a lot involved here.

But, again, I want to emphasize the point a lot of it starts right from the eyes and ears of the people who live in our cities and towns.

BALDWIN: Steve Rogers, people are listening to you. Thank you so much for coming on, Detective. Appreciate it.

Also, speaking of Osama bin Laden, secrets, they are starting to pour out, out of his own personal diary. It is the journal written in the terrorist's own hand. In fact, get this. U.S. officials, they are calling this thing the al Qaeda playbook.

Now, these writings show bin Laden that he was very much so focused on attacking the United States again. "The L.A. Times" is reporting the al Qaeda leader was looking for ways to kill the maximum number of Americans. And a U.S. official tells CNN that bin Laden wanted to attack smaller cities as well here. He urged his network of followers to look for ways to recruit minorities, specifically wanted to recruit Hispanics, African-Americans to join his jihad against the United States.

Bin Laden -- bin Laden's diary contains a list of dates that are significant to any American. You have the Fourth of July, Christmas, 10th anniversary of 9/11 upcoming this year here. Everything in this handwritten journal is big-picture thinking, we are told, not necessarily specific plans for attacks in the future.

But it does show bin Laden was communicating with other members of al Qaeda outside of that compound in Pakistan, and he wasn't just sending messages. He was getting responses.

Meanwhile, more members of Congress are getting a look at the pictures of a dead Osama bin Laden. And those who have been invited to Langley, Virginia, to CIA headquarters to see these pictures, they sit on the House, they sit the on Senate committees on intelligence and military.

Later this hour, stick around, because I will be speaking with one member of Congress who looked over those photos. He will talk me through what he saw.

And now, if it is interesting and happening right now, you are about to see it rapid fire. Let's go.

The U.S. is facing many ongoing threats, so President Obama asking FBI Director Robert Mueller to stay on board for another two years, in a pretty rare move. Mueller's 10-year term expires in September. Congress still needs to sign off on extending his term.

In Spain, they are surveying the damage there and picking up the pieces after that horrific earthquake. You can see it just sort of rocking this bell tower, all the dust and debris, until it pretty much falls apart. A Spanish reporter had to dive out of the way to move from that falling debris. He was one of the lucky ones.

Nine people were killed in the 5.1-magnitude quake yesterday. Nearly 300 others were injured. The hardest-hit area was the town of Lorca -- 80 percent of the homes there were hit.

In Germany, a court convicts a retired U.S. autoworker of helping murder nearly 30,000 Jews at a Nazi death camp in World War II. John Demjanjuk was sentenced to five years in prison, one year less than requested by prosecutors. Defense attorneys argued the 91-year-old was a prisoner of war and forced to work for the Nazis. His trial caps a 30-year legal battle.

Tiger Woods' return to the links short-lived. The former number- one golfer in the world withdrew from the Players Championship today. He limped off the course after just nine holes. Woods was trying to make a comeback after injuring his knee and Achilles tendon at the Masters tournament last month. When Woods quit playing, he was six shots over.

And astronaut Mark Kelly and other Endeavour astronauts arriving there at the Kennedy Space Center ahead of Monday's scheduled shuttle launch, just a couple weeks after it was scrubbed.

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MARK KELLY, HUSBAND OF CONGRESSWOMAN GABRIELLE GIFFORDS: Our families will be down later in the week. You know, normally we have them come down...

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BALDWIN: Kelly says the crew's families will attend the launch, but he did not specifically mention his wife, Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. She is still recovering in Houston after being shot in her head after that shooting rampage back in January.

And you can watch Endeavour's launch, the last in history for this particular space shuttle, Monday morning, five minutes to 9:00 a.m. Eastern, live, right here on CNN.

And take a look at these -- speaking of space, take a look at these amazing pictures of space. They didn't come from NASA. They came from a group of fifth-graders. A group of Illinois elementary students, they put this video camera in a Styrofoam box, and they attached it to this old weather balloon they bought, of all places, on eBay.

And it went way, way up there, 76,000 feet. The students tracked the balloon from an iPad -- of course, they did -- and their cell phones. But what comes up must come down. The balloon eventually burst and the camera fell safely back to Earth. There it goes.

Now this:

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STEVENS: There are some photographs in existence over which we have possession of which should never, ever see the light of day.

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BALDWIN: A new movie showing a graphic photograph of Princess Diana as she was dying, and the outrage is growing. On top of that, the movie asks whether her death was an accident or murder. The documentary is premiering at Cannes Film Festival, but CNN gets an inside look before the audience gets to see it. Don't miss this. That's next.

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BALDWIN: In the middle of celebrating the recent royal wedding, there were many who paused to remember the last big royal wedding, that of Charles and Diana.

Now a new documentary is on Diana's death, and it is stirring controversy, and not just because it says she was murdered, but also because it uses graphic photos of her right after crash that claimed her life.

For more, here is Dan Rivers from London.

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DAN RIVERS, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The trailer for the new Diana documentary looks more like a Hollywood thriller. The film is being premiered in Cannes on Friday. The title, "Unlawful Killing."

The documentary pores over the details of the 1997 car crash that killed Princess Diana and examines whether she and her lover, Dodi Al Fayed, were in fact murdered.

These CCTV shots are the last video of Dodi and Diana on that ill- fated night, a night Dodi's father, Mohammed Al Fayed, says was the culmination of an establishment plot to kill Diana before she married Dodi. Mohammed Al Fayed paid for the documentary, which backs up his claim.

RIVERS (on camera): This documentary appears to be rehearsing the same conspiracy theories around Diana's death that many people here in the UK feel have already been discredited after more than a decade of various different investigations.

In fact, the only reason this film is getting headlines is, perhaps, because it uses graphic images of Diana's last dying moments, photographs that those who've seen them feel should never be shown.

SIR JOHN STEVENS, FORMER MET POLICE COMMISSIONER: I think it's appalling. We obviously investigated and know exactly what took place. We know everything about Princess Diana's death.

There are some photographs in existence, however, which we have possession of which should never, ever see the light of day. In all honesty and decency, that shouldn't happen.

RIVERS (voice-over): And those that actually knew Diana, like biographer Lady Colin Campbell, says the conspiracy theory is ludicrous.

LADY COLIN CAMPBELL, DIANA'S BIOGRAPHER: This lady's documentary that purports that Diana was bumped off by the establishment yet again, I think it's ridiculous.

I think it's -- beyond ridiculous.

RIVERS: The documentary is directed and presented by British actor Keith Allen, who starred in films such as "Shallow Grave."

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RIVERS: His documentary focuses on notes written by Diana predicting she would be murdered in a car crash. Her lawyer, who represented the al Fayed family at the inquest, says there are too many unanswered questions.

MICHAEL MANSFIELD OC, LAWYER: I think as the parent of one of the people who died, you have every right to say I want this matter pursued and pursued till we get the real answers.

RIVERS: The documentary has yet to get distribution in cinemas, but the producers say some of the claims in the film are so contentious that their own lawyers have warned them that if it was released in the U.K., substantial cuts would have to be made to avoid legal action.

Dan Rivers, CNN, London.

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BALDWIN: Coming up next, a former senator is now facing a criminal investigation because of an affair he had in office. It is a breaking development.

Plus, Mitt Romney swears the health care law he signed in Massachusetts is nothing like President Obama's. Critics, they are not so much buying it. So today, the Republican is explaining himself in a big Power Point speech. Jessica Yellin right in the thick of things. She is standing by for me live in Ann Arbor. We will check in with jess momentarily. Stay here.

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BALDWIN: A scandal with a married female aide cost him his Senate seat, but now it's putting former Senator John Ensign in the crosshairs of a criminal probe. The Senate Ethics Committee says that it's turning over its the findings now to the Justice Department. Among those findings, what's being called credible evidence of obstruction of justice.

Now, Ensign does admit to having an affair with Cindy Hampton, the wife the of his former chief of staff. Ensign's parents allegedly gave money to that aide's family. Ensign and his parents are accused of lying. The Nevada Republican resigned from the Senate nine days ago.

And you know Mitt Romney had to hate this. Did you read your "Wall Street Journal" this morning and open up the opinion pages and see what was written here? The Republican-friendly paper in a prominent editorial refers to Republican Romney as, quote, "Obama's running mate." There it is, "Mitt Romney's Obamacare problem." Ouch. Double ouch, in fact, because today is the day that Romney is hoping, finally, to bury the notion that his Massachusetts health care plan was just like the president's. He is in Ann Arbor, Michigan, Power Point presentation -- there it is -- that he crafted to deal with his health care problem before he enters the race for president.

Here he is, Mitt Romney, speaking just about one hour ago.

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MITT ROMNEY (R), FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR: A lot of pundits around the nation are saying that I should just stand up and say this whole thing was a mistake, that it was just a bone-headed idea and I should just admit it, it was a mistake and walk away from it.

And I presume that a lot of folks would conclude that if I did that, that would be good for me politically. But there's only one problem with that, it wouldn't be honest.

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BALDWIN: Jessica Yellin is in Ann Arbor as well, out national political correspondent.

And, Jesse, would admit he was wrong, but that wouldn't be honest. So how did he explain that his plan was different from the president's?

JESSICA YELLIN, CNN NATIONAL POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: He basically said, Brooke, that his plan was fantastic for Massachusetts, but that's state and the federal government shouldn't be imposing a plan on the entire nation.

Here's just one example of how he drew distinction between himself and the plan that President Obama helped pass.

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ROMNEY: Our plan was a state solution to a state problem, and his is a power-grab by the federal government to put in place a one- size-fits-all plan across the nation.

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YELLIN: So you know this plays into a lot of the Tea Party and conservative movement's themes right now, that the federal government is overreaching.

But you know the other piece of his effort today, Brooke, was to outline what he would do as president, which was immediately to repeal and replace the Obama health care plan, the Democrats plan, and he outlined his own, which would give more power to the states.

The one sort of wiggly thing in all of this is that many of the elements in his own plan he was very supportive of, and those are many of the same elements that are in the Democrats' plan. So he didn't quite square that away.

BALDWIN: Wiggly indeed, Miss Yellin.

What about this article here in "The Wall Street Journal"? Have you heard any reaction from the Romney camp to this particular article , you know, the one that is entitled "Obama's Running Mate"?

YELLIN: I mean, that was just so blistering and even before he gave the speech, they didn't even give him a chance to explain.

He didn't address it in the speech. I spoke to some of his aides and, you know, they'll say privately, oh, we are not surprised because "The Wall Street Journal" has objected to his health care plan all along, this is consistent for them.

But the truth, Brooke, is that is very uncomfortable for a Republican candidate to be slammed that decisively on the conservative editorial page of the nation. It poses some challenges for him in the race ahead, not insurmountable but something that he'll have to continue addressing.

BALDWIN: Uncomfortable, potentially also though problematic for Romney, given the fact that he is, fairly or not, sort of known as a flip-flopper?

YELLIN: Right. And that's why, you know, I think you heard in the sound bite you played at the top, you heard him say I'm not going to back away from the plan I passed, because, you know, if he were to apologize and repudiate it and say I never believed, I don't know yes did that, I don't believe it in anymore that would feed the flip- flopper storyline. So he has to sort of back the plan that he did then and talk about changes for the future.

But you know who has got to be loving all this are the Democrats. They have been more than cooperative in pointing out to me all day long, here are the similarities between the plan the Democrats passed and the Romney plan. They will run with this for months to come.

BALDWIN: Well, we will just have to see if you know, how this was translated to others, I guess, out there, this Power Point presentation today.

Jesse Yellin in Ann Arbor, thank you.

And now, remember this?

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BALDWIN: Another question about another infamous man, one we haven't heard from in a couple of weeks here. Where is Moammar Gadhafi?

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BALDWIN: So, that was me, just about this time yesterday, big question we were asking. Well, guess what, hours later, guess who shows up. Find out where Moammar Gadhafi emerge and why the rebels are now claiming a huge victory.

Plus, quite a circus on Capitol Hill today, lawmakers grilling the oil company CEOs and the chiefs fight back. But will this change what you pay for gas?

Also, Robin Meade getting together with some of the biggest country stars in America tonight. Coming up next, she brings in a very special guest to ask for your help.

Stay right here.

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BALDWIN: NATO bombs parts of Moammar Gadhafi's compound, gas prices rise along with tempers on Capitol Hill, and Robin Meade along with some other country stars asking for your help in Alabama.

Time to play "Reporter Roulette."

I want to begin, though, with Nima Elbagir in Tripoli in Libya.

And, Nima, we had not seen Moammar Gadhafi in just about 12 days until he reappeared a couple hours after this show yesterday, which would be Thursday, Libya time. And we saw this video of him released to state TV.

What is the reaction in Tripoli to the video?

NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brooke, it wasn't just any hotel. It was actually the hotel that I'm standing in right now. Libyan authorities told us he came into the hotel where the entire press corps is staying and came to out without any of us seeing him.

You know, obviously, we are asking a lot of questions -- why weren't we there, if he wanted to prove this happened -- but I don't really feel we were their target audience. You know, as far as they are concerned, they've proved to the Libyan people, the pro-Gadhafi Libyan people, that he is still alive and that is really the most important thing for them.

And you know, I was listening when that involves a being shown on state TV, and we could hear the cheers coming up from the government officials and minders in the lobby. So as far as that concerned, it seems to be quite a successful stint on television for Gadhafi, Brooke.

BALDWIN: What about this most recent round of attacks on the compound in Tripoli. What are they hitting? Are they hitting bunkers?

ELBAGIR: It does appear that it was a bunker. We went in and there was a pro-Gadhafi demonstration, quite a strategic one standing in a very specific spot, which obviously got us a little bit suspicious. We tried move in, we weren't allowed to get too close, but we managed to get sight of steps going into the ground very close to that crater.

And we asked to go into the compound late last night -- sorry, early this morning our time when that strike happened. We were told we couldn't go. When we came in, the craters had been filled up with water they said had had come from water mine -- water main, sorry.

So it does seem like the strikes were a bunker and perhaps NATO was trying to prove that they know a lot more about what is going on under that compound than Gadhafi is probably comfortable with them knowing -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: The minders only let you see so much there in Tripoli, don't they?

Nima Elbagir live for me at the capital city. Nima, thank you.

Next here on "Reporter Roulette," Alison Kosik in New York.

Listen if you will, this is our guest from last hour, it was a U.S. senator talking about the price of gas and how the oil execs tried to explain it today. Listen with me.

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SEN. MARIA CANTWELL (D), WASHINGTON: One of the execs said that if he thought it was based on supply and demand, that today we would only be paying somewhere between $60 and $70 a barrel, which means Americans would have much cheaper oil than the $4.00 a gallon they are paying today.

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BALDWIN: So, Alison, if the market is saying we ought to be paying says 60 or 70 bucks a barrel, why are we at 100? Are we being had here?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Makes you feel that way, doesn't it?

BALDWIN: It does.

KOSIK: Every day you pull that car up to the gas station, I know it does. But you know what? There are two good reasons you oil prices sit at $100, even though they may or should be priced at the $60 to $70 level.

The first is speculation. We have got all these investors bidding up the price of oil each and every day, whether or not they're even going to take delivery on it. Most don't even take delivery of this oil. It's really a great investment, especially as you see the dollar lose strength, go weaker and weaker because oil is priced in dollars.

The second factor as to why our oil is price so high is because there's OPEC factored in. OPEC is that cartel of 12 countries. They decide how much oil to put into the marketplace and how to price that oil. And the U.S. is not factored into that cartel. We really have little pull, little say into this.

You know, all I can say to the folks on Capitol Hill is, hey, try to legislate that, Brooke.

BALDWIN: I was asking her when that might happen. Alison Kosik, thanks. We will be watching for that.

Next here "Reporter Roulette," we've got HLN anchor, "Morning Express" anchor Robin Meade. She is in Nashville right now to co- anchor a fundraiser with country music TV stars here to help disaster victims, and she has a special guest with her that country music fans might recognize. Robin, to you.

ROBIN MEADE, ANCHOR, HLN'S "MORNING EXPRESS": Hi, Brooke. We are here in Nashville. And you look around. We are on a stage where this telethon is going to happen tonight. And it's beautiful, all set and ready to go. And you look, it probably feels a long way from the horrible destruction that we've seen from this rash of tornadoes that hit six different states and killed 300 people. And you think about the people who are now left to rebuild.

Well, that was the genesis of this telethon to help out the American Red Cross who has help so many of the victims and the flooding victims as well.

Now, tonight, you are going to see country artist after country artist. I can't even believe how many people they were able to cram into an hour-and-a-half here for the CMT telethon. Now, one of them is Trace Adkins and I said, Trace, you know, some people, maybe they are not country fans. So, how do you relate this to them? And this is what he said.

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TRACE ADKINS, COUNTRY MUSIC SINGER: CMT's initiative is called CMT One Country. You know, that's kind of the division of CMT that does this philanthropic kind of stuff. And I think that says it all, CMT One Country. When disasters like this occur, we come together as one country and we help each other out. We are just wanting to make sure that we are keeping as many people as possible focused on this tragedy so that we have the opportunity to come together as one country and help these folks out.

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MEADE: So, he made a good point there about everybody coming together. The need is huge. And who knows how many people are going to become victims of the flooding that is currently ravaging through the Mississippi and the Southern states.

So, there is a huge need. So, tonight, the American Red Cross is hoping that you are going to tune into CMT to give and to watch and to be entertained. That's at 9 p.m. Eastern. And by the way, on HLN, the sister network to CNN, on 9 p.m. -- at 9 p.m. on Sunday night, we are going to re-air this telethon. You get see the stars again. You can still call the Red Cross to make a donation for things like $10, maybe for a blanket that someone will be able to sleep for the night, things that are really in need.

So, that's on HLN, 9 p.m. Eastern on Sunday night. I am going to be co-hosting this telethon tonight, so they are hoping that you do you tune in. Brooke, back to you.

BALDWIN: Have fun tonight. What a great cause. Robin Meade, thank you very much.

And big-time drama in Casey Anthony's murder trial. She's accused of killing her young daughter. Well, prosecutors and defense attorneys are trying to find impartial jurors, but folks, that has not been easy. The judge has just given some potential jurors the boot because of their behavior.

And Sunny Hostin has just gotten some new information here about the strategy Anthony's defense might be taking, and this will surprise you. Sunny, that's next.

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BALDWIN: It is slow going today, questioning all these potential jurors for the trial of the Florida mother charged with murdering her two-year-old little daughter. This is the fourth day of jury selection in the Casey Anthony case, and there have been more than a few bizarre moments here throughout this past week.

Sunny Hostin is "On the Case." Sunny, I know you have heard about this possible clue here into Casey Anthony's defense today, so, what is it?

SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR: It is quite a bombshell. Today, Brooke, the defense went over with Judge Perry mitigating factors that they thought would prevent Casey Anthony from the death penalty if she is convicted of the murder of her two-year-old. They went over a list, and what they said was the mitigating factors are age, lack of maturity, lack of impulse control, history of sexual abuse, lack of parental guidance. Mother and father failed to protect her as a child and she was used as a decoy or a pawn by her parents and a scapegoat for parental misconduct.

I will tell you that we have all been wondering what is the defense here. How do they explain that she did not report her child missing for 31 days? Why didn't she speak to her parents? This was shocking information because now we know that there are going to be discussions and allegations of sexual abuse.

So, the legal community is really floored by this and this may give us an idea of what was going on in this family, Brooke.

BALDWIN: And an idea of what we will see, I guess, playing out in that trial. Let me ask you this, Sunny, who is Rosalee Bolin?

HOSTIN: Yet another bombshell. She apparently is a defense investigator. She has been hired to look into, again, mitigating circumstances. That is if Casey Anthony is found guilty, these factors that can be considered in the penalty phase.

Interestingly enough, she used to be married to a very prominent attorney. She left that attorney and is now married to Oscar Ray Bolin, Jr. You may remember they used to call him Bolin the Butcher because he is a convicted killer. She married him after he was sentenced, and she married him over the phone. So, a lot of eyes on Mrs. Bolin in the courtroom. People are wondering, wow, she must be really, really good if the defense went out on a limb and hired her for the team.

BALDWIN: Kind of odd. OK. And I know also this process here for the judge trying to choose these jurors has been a tough one. One potential juror has been charged with contempt of court? What happened?

HOSTIN: That's right. This juror apparently was speaking to "In Session's" field producer, tried to speak to him during the cafeteria break, during the lunch break in the cafeteria. He went up to the "In Session" producer and said, you know, can I speak to you? The "In Session" producer said, if you are a potential juror, I cannot. This juror then went on to say, well I'm juror right now, but I'm trying to get out of the case. Then he continued to speak and said, who's paying for Casey Anthony's defense anyway? Of

Of course, "In Session's" field producer did report this discussion with the court. And the judge fined this potential juror $450, finding him in contempt. And that's lot of money for anyone in this economy. Pretty harsh from Judge Perry.

BALDWIN: Trying to get out of this, maybe spent two months being bused from Tampa to Orlando for this thing. So, that's one person's story. What about the witness who ended up in the jury room?

HOSTIN: The -- interestingly enough, remember with this Casey Anthony case there were so many volunteers with EquiSearch, trying to find poor little Caylee. This volunteer, one of the thousands of volunteers, ended up being called for jury duty. Got called in, spoke to other prospective jurors in the jury room, causing Judge Perry to get rid of 50 potential jurors in this jury pool.

So, I will say jury selection is usually pretty mundane, usually pretty boring. If this is any indication what this trial is going to be like, we are really in for a roller coaster.

BALDWIN: Did the judge really suggest looking for potential jurors in the homeless shelter? I mean, that had to be tongue-in- cheek, Sunny, right?

HOSTIN: You know, we weren't sure. I had never heard of a judge looking for potential jurors outside of the jury pool and going to a homeless shelter or to a shopping mall. It does apparently happen sometime in very small jurisdictions. But Judge Perry said, hey, defense, you're upset there isn't a more diverse jury pool. I'm going to go to the homeless shelter next door.

It was tongue-in-cheek, he was joking. But I was kind of confused at first. I thought well, maybe he is going do something like that.

BALDWIN: Yes. This is far from mundane, to use your word. This will be an interesting trial to watch. Sunny Hostin, thank you very much.

And now to this. More and more members of Congress getting a look at those pictures of a dead Osama bin Laden, and those who have been invited to see these photographs sit on the House and Senate committees on intelligence and the military. Coming up next, I will speak with Congressman Doug Lamborn about what he saw and why one senator suggested Bin Laden was still alive in some of those pictures. I wonder what he saw. Stay right here.

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BALDWIN: Select members of Congress are getting to see the Osama bin Laden death photos, including Republican Congressman Doug Lamborn of Colorado. He is one of them.

Congressman Lamborn, thank you for coming on. And sir, let's just start with how many photos did you see today at Langley?

REP. DOUG LAMBORN (R), COLORADO: Well, when I went over to the CIA headquarters this morning, there were about six or eight photos. And some have a side by side showing him living, but from at roughly the same angle, so you can use that for identification and comparison purposes. He is, indeed, dead.

BALDWIN: You bring up -- and this is what we saw from Senator Inhofe last night, talking to my colleague, Eliot Spitzer. So, several of these photos were of him living. Can you explain more specifically how - how those photos were shot?

LAMBORN: Oh, they just had on file photos of him over the years, and they only do a side by side to show the same angle and for I.D. purposes for -- like, the forensic people. Basically, these are very graphic, gruesome pictures. He is dead. It gave me a sense of finality and closure.

BALDWIN: I see. So the living photos were not shot in the compound. Those were simply lined up just for positive ID purposes so --

LAMBORN: Exactly.

BALDWIN: So of the photos, Congressman, they did show him in the photos and perhaps also on the Carl Vinson on the ship.

Can you describe him for me in more detail? LAMBORN: Well, they're very graphic. His face is intact, his throat is intact, but his head is very severely injured. He -- there's no way anyone could live through anything like that.

And I do think, anticipating your next question, I do think that this should be released, at least the least gruesome of these, to the American people.

BALDWIN: Why?

LAMBORN: It brought me -- I didn't expect this, it brought me a sense of finality and closure. And think of the victims' families, or all Americans who are traumatized by 9/11, most if not all of us, this brings a little more closure.

You can hear about it with your ears. You can hear -- read about it, but seeing with your own eyes is a different experience.

BALDWIN: And can you be more specific though, as far as these photos, and I know it is lunchtime on the west coast, but did you see any photos of him wrapped in the sheath or the photos simply shared with you of a dead bin Laden in the compound?

LAMBORN: The first photo or two was in the compound, lying dead on the floor. A couple later, maybe on an examination room or something on the ship perhaps. And the last couple showed his body respectfully being wrapped and prepared for burial right before being placed into the sea.

BALDWIN: Are any of your colleagues -- and I know they are members of the Armed Service and Intel Committees, those are ones who are being invited to see these photos -- are any of your colleagues saying thanks but no thanks, I don't want to see them?

LAMBORN: Yes, some are doing that. That is certainly their right.

BALDWIN: And finally, you mentioned, but just briefly, how were you presented these photos? Were they hard copies right in front of you were you taken into one single room? Were you alone?

LAMBORN: Well, we go into a conference room, they hand us the folder, they say, do you have any questions, we can stay here, you can be by yourself. So I had them stay here to help me answer a few questions. Took 10 minutes and then I left.

BALDWIN: What kind of questions did you have?

LAMBORN: Just some -- these little lines used for identification, like comparing facial features from the living picture versus dead pictures, just to verify that that's what that was. They didn't have really a lot more information. This was not a person who was on the team.

But I do want to reiterate, I think that these pictures, the least gruesome among them should be released to the American people. BALDWIN: Congressman Doug Lamborn, thank you very much. Live on the Hill.

LAMBORN: Good to talk to you.

BALDWIN: Thank you.

Two hundred miles an hour across the Grand Canyon, a daredevil risks his life to show us what the future looks like. Wait until you see how he pulled this off. That's next.

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BALDWIN: If you ever watched "The Jetsons" growing up, you probably dreamed of having a jet pack on your back that can fly you pretty much anywhere. Well, one man is living that dream. You got to see this.

Meet the Jetman. Why is he called that? It is going to be obvious to you in just a moment here. He launched from a hell had copter 8,000 feet above the floor of the Grand Canyon. There he goes. Look at him go.

His flight lasting nearly eight minutes. He is going pretty fast, 190 miles per hour. Imagine what he is looking at down below somewhere. George Jetson very proud of the Jetman.

Now to this video and you're going to look at this. You're going to think these are puppies. They are not puppies. These cuddly little pups are endangered red wolf pups. The pups were born just about a week of and a half ago at the Chattanooga Nature Center.

They made their debut yesterday. Red wolves are highly endangered. There's only an estimated 300 left in the whole world and let's make that 302.

And coming up next here "THE SITUATION ROOM," Wolf Blitzer. I feel like I haven't talked to you in a while, how are you?

WOLF BLITZER, HOST, "THE SITUATION ROOM": There's only one Wolf Blitzer left in the world, too.

BALDWIN: Boom. Right there.

BLITZER: Speaking of those wolf pups over there, not endangered species, maybe?

BALDWIN: Yes, they are. Now there are 302 around the world. How are you, Wolf Blitzer? What you have coming up?

BLITZER: I feel good. I feel good and good to see you. As usual had a busy week, I was in Munich, Germany this week, we are back.

We've got the guy who wants to replace Moammar Gadhafi as the leader of Libya, Mohamed Jibril, the opposition leader. He's leading the fighting from Benghazi. He hopes that Moammar Gadhafi will be gone fairly soon.

He's going to be here. He's in Washington, ready to go to the White House to meet with the president's national security adviser. He has already met in recent weeks with the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

He is going to meet with me and all of our viewers today in "THE SITUATION ROOM." I think you will want to see this interview. We've got a lot of pointed questions. What happens after Gadhafi so I think that will be good. I think you will want to catch it, Brooke?

BALDWIN: I will catch it, Wolf Blitzer. We'll see you in a couple of minutes. Thank you so much, sir.

And now, this --

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sometimes a unicorn can sort of morph into a rhinoceros and you don't want to mess with a rhinoceros.

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BALDWIN: They didn't stop with rhinos, unicorns, horses and ponies also making an appearance on Capitol Hill today. So how did a hearing on oil profits and gas prices turn into a fantasy land? Joe Johns has the most ridiculous moments on the Hill today.

"Political Pop" coming up next.

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BALDWIN: Did you hear about the zoo, maybe animal farm on Capitol Hill today? Unicorns, rhinos, ponies, lawmakers talking about all kinds of creatures as they grilled top oil executive on taxes.

So what exactly were they trying to say? Joe Johns is here with the "Political Pop."

Joe, go for it.

JOE JOHNS, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: First thing I thought "Wild Kingdom."

BALDWIN: I thought "Animal Farm."

JOHNS: Right, yes, animal planet. For a few minutes, I mean, it sounded like a Senate Finance Committee was turning into an episode of "Animal Planet."

We just wanted to give you a full flavor of some of the actual back and forth from this finance committee hearing. You have heard a little piece of it here on the show. Both parties talking about whether this it is a good idea to end oil subsidies.

Democrats like that idea a lot. It started with Republican Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah suggesting his colleagues on the other side were staging political theater because it is good politics to go after big oil companies. Listen up.

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SENATOR ORRIN HATCH (R), UTAH: I have a chart depicting what I expect this hearing to turn into. And there you go.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who's the horse and who's the dog?

SENATOR CHARLES SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Well, you'd have an easier time convincing the American people that a unicorn just flew into this hearing room than that these big oil companies need taxpayer subsidies that's the real fairy tale.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Very difficult to follow the unicorn from New York who has a very sharp horn. Are you all right over there? Sometimes a unicorn can sort of morph into a rhinoceros and you don't want to mess with a rhinoceros.

HATCH: Here's how Mr. Letterman put it. Gas prices, aren't they crazy? It's so expensive you can see the rats are carpooling in from New Jersey.

Now, we don't have as many rats in my home state of Utah, but like folks in New Jersey and New York, Utahans are plenty angry about high gas prices.

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JOHNS: So, they -- I know. I mean, all you can do is just sit and laugh.

BALDWIN: How do they come one this stuff, Joe Johns? It's hilarious. Everyone was laughing in here.

JOHNS: It gets started with an idea -- Hatch actually has a very good sense of humor. I think you heard the reference to David Letterman.

BALDWIN: Yes.

JOHNS: The truth is this stuff actually pay off for them because, you know, this would have been a pretty mundane hearing and I heard some of these sound bites everywhere, on the radio and other stations, just because they were so snappy.

And for the record, I think we only made one joke about Capitol Hill being a zoo. I have to say that is pretty good discipline in media.

BALDWIN: It's silly, we can laugh about it, but this is serious stuff. I mean, where do we go next here after this hearing?

JOHNS: Yes, well, the truth of it is that Democrats are raising this issue of getting rid of the oil subsidies. It is something that has been very near and dear to their hearts for a long time.

The oil companies say they want them so you have a big fight over accountability and whether, at a time when you really got high oil prices, if you ought to be giving a bunch of money to the oil companies, basically to sell gasoline to the American public. It is a pretty good debate.

BALDWIN: They say they want the breaks if not, they may go overseas. We will have to wait to see what happens, I guess. Joe Johns, thank you as always.

And now, I want to get this in for you, tomorrow's news today. I want to fast forward. The Obama administration is inviting members of the Libyan opposition to the White House. No word on whether they will actually meet with the president or not.

Also, CNN's Elizabeth Cohen interviews the neurosurgeon operating on Congresswoman Gaby Giffords. They're going to talk about the upcoming operation to put part of Gifford's skull back in. So that is coming up tomorrow.

I do want to let you know I'm off tomorrow, headed to sunny Southern California for a nice long weekend where I will be wearing my sunscreen.

Many of you know my story and many of you make my day when you send me a tweet saying you are getting checked by the dermatologist for skin cancer.

And if you haven't seen it yet, I want you to go to my blog, CNN.com/Brooke and check out my public service announcement, if you missed my story, take a look.

And now to Wolf Blitzer in Washington -- Wolf.