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Nancy Grace
Husband Person of Interest in Missing Missouri Mother of Triplets
Aired July 22, 2011 - 20:00 ET
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. Live, Missouri, and the mystery surrounding this disappearance of a beautiful mother of baby triplets, vanishing. Bombshell tonight. Her Honda Pilot found with a flat tire beside the interstate, business cards scattered, cell, purse, keys gone. Her husband, an ex-cop, says she left his place by foot after an argument. And tonight, her children send a letter to Mommy, begging, Mommy, come home.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Those three beautiful little kids don`t know where their Mommy is, nor does the family.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re (INAUDIBLE) over 260 leads on this case.
GRACE: A beautiful mother of triplets.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s just -- it`s been chaos for the family and the community.
GRACE: Vanishes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police say Waller`s husband, Clay, was the last person to see her.
GRACE: Why are they not with their father?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police say they also have a lot that they`d like to ask Clay Waller.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because he murdered their mother. He`s threatened their lives.
CLAY WALLER, EX-HUSBAND OF MISSING WOMAN: I can`t change how people feel. I mean, there`s a lot of emotions that are running high right now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Certainly, he`s not been proven guilty of anything.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She did go missing on June 1st.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But he is obviously a person of interest.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would give my life literally to get my baby back alive.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And we have that from her own words on her cell phone, that, I am arriving here now, meaning I`m arriving here at Clay`s. And that was the last words that she spoke to her loved ones.
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GRACE: And tonight, a gorgeous Mercer University law student set to take the bar, the world before her, disappears. The search for Lauren Giddings comes to an end when cops discover her torso -- her torso -- outside her tiny apartment, cops searching for the rest of her body. Why would someone commit such a heinous act on a young law student literally scrubbed in sunshine?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police discovered a woman`s body, 25-year-old Lauren Giddings, in a wooded area.
GRACE: A case alert. The disappearance of 27-year-old Lauren Giddings, Mercer University law student.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Giddings graduated this spring from Mercer law school.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re sad. I mean, it -- she was part of our family.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Neighbor Stephen McDaniel (ph) entering his apartment with investigators and a search dog.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, all of her stuff was there. Her ID was there. Her wallet was there. But she was just gone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They checked her computer, and he saw an e-mail that Giddings sent.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She said that she was afraid in her apartment, that she...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is it considered a homicide investigation right now?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
GRACE: A homicide. Cops find her torso outside her apartment.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Investigators went into missing woman Lauren Giddings`s apartment. Police could be seen dusting for fingerprints. Investigators left Giddings`s apartment carrying brown bags.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They are on site, and they`ll continue to go back. They`re continuing to work the clues, work the evidence.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People stop by a makeshift memorial.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: At the entrance to Giddings`s home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No sign of a struggle, no sign that anyone had broken in, just nothing.
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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Bombshell tonight. Live, Missouri, the mystery surrounding the disappearance of a beautiful mother of baby triplets. She is vanished!
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our little girl has touched so many lives.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thirty-nine-year-old mom Jacque Sue Waller had a great family.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Investigators suspect foul play in Waller`s disappearance and have named her husband, Clay Waller, a person of interest.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Beautiful triplets and a good job in the insurance industry.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) It tells (ph) where she was last seen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of questions about it that are unanswered.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Her marriage was on the rocks.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jacque Waller was finalizing her divorce and picking up her son at her estranged husband`s home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Waller allegedly told police they had an argument.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`re just hoping she comes back.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Jacque was reportedly working to finalize the divorce.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The last contact that she had with anyone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We sure do miss her. We want to know where she`s at.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just hours later, her Honda Pilot found abandoned with a flat tire on a nearby highway.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on up here. Tell everybody how bad you miss your wife and want her back again. That`s what I would do if my wife come up missing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just want to find her, no matter what, and make sure there`s justice.
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GRACE: Way too many inconsistencies in this story! Everyone, we are live in Missouri tonight in the desperate search for a young mom of three, of triplets, two girls and a boy. They are asking Mommy, come home.
Straight out to Faune Riggin, news director at KZIM/KSIM. Faune, what do we know?
FAUNE RIGGIN, NEWSRADIO KZIM/KSIM (via telephone): Well, Nancy the new news today, other than the fact that this is pretty much our Natalee Holloway case here for southeastern Missouri -- it`s gut-wrenching, and there`s a lot of chatter and many theories, but people just want her found.
So coming up this weekend, we have an organization coming out of North Carolina called the C-U-E, the center for missing persons...
GRACE: Right.
RIGGIN: ... and they`re sending a team of dogs round the Apple Creek conservation area. It`s a shooting range, actually. And they have cadaver dogs and people on foot and horseback searching that area with the Cape (ph) County sheriff`s office. We`re not sure exactly why that area, but they for some reason have deemed it as necessary. So they`ll be doing that.
And our sister newspaper, "Southeast Missourian," reporter Scott Moyer (ph) spoke to Stan Rawson, who is the father of Jacque Sue Waller, former deputy sheriff and police officer from the St. Louis area, as well, but he isn`t confirming anything more than he said he saw blood evidence at Clay Waller`s home.
GRACE: Well, you know, blood evidence can be construed many different ways. Blood can be found somewhere absolutely innocently. It depends on where it is. It depends on if it`s a spatter, if it`s a drop from a nosebleed. It can be a cut from a finger in the kitchen, around the knives and the forks. So it depends on the context in which you find blood evidence.
Everybody, we are taking your calls. We are live in Missouri in the search now for a mother of triplets. Straight out to Alexis Weed, on the story. Alexis, I don`t like the way the husband is behaving. Now, listen, I`m not saying the husband did it, but what I am saying is his story doesn`t really hold together for me.
Let`s take it from the top. But one thing I want to clarify right off the top, Alexis Weed. She goes to his house. She tells other people that she goes to pick up the children. But he says, No, that`s not why she came and that they got into an argument and she leaves on foot.
But wasn`t her car spotted at the home well into the evening, parked out front? And wasn`t her car found on an interstate about five miles away with a flat tire?
ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Right, Nancy. Well, it said that she was at Waller`s home, a temporary home where she was staying, for about -- a little while in the afternoon of June 1. She`s there around 4:00 o`clock, though the husband, the estranged husband -- he says she leaves on foot. She leaves her car behind. He then says he leaves his house around 6:00 PM, and the car is suddenly gone. However, there are witnesses that say that the car was still there at his home around 8:30 in the evening.
GRACE: We understand that there have been horse teams, ATVs, cadaver dogs. The search is going to resume this weekend. Everyone, the tip line in this case, 573-243-3151.
Let`s back it up. Take it from the very beginning, Alexis Weed. Another question I`ve got is he says there was no marital strife, but my sources are telling me that she had already rented a new apartment for she and the twins -- their 5-year-old triplets, in the town where her sister lives. So why is she moving out if there`s not marital strife?
WEED: Right, Nancy. It`s an odd story. The husband is saying via his attorney that there was no trouble in the marriage, and just because that they were maybe separated, they doesn`t mean that they were necessarily having issues. She did rent an apartment in the city where her sister lives. She was staying with her sister temporarily. And we`ve learned that she actually painted bedrooms for her little triplets that same day that she went missing.
GRACE: Joining us also tonight, very special guests joining us out of Missouri, Ruby and Stan Rawson. These are Jacque`s mother and father.
Ruby and Stan Rawson, thank you for being with us. First to you, Mr. Rawson. I understand that while the police were out looking for Jacque, the husband -- who is not a suspect, he is a person of interest, he is not a suspect -- he drives by and shoots a bird at the police looking for Jacque?
STAN RAWSON, MISSING WOMAN`S FATHER: That`s absolutely correct, Nancy. He did this. He likes to say he didn`t, but he did. And he not only did it to the ordinary policeman that was out there, he flipped off the chief of police in Jackson, Missouri, and all the searchers. There`s probably 100, 200 searchers out there every weekend anyway, and -- he did this.
GRACE: You know, very, very disturbing. Unleash the lawyers. Joining us tonight, Lorna Owens, defense attorney, also John Manuelian, defense attorney. Lorna in Miami, John in LA.
First to you, Lorna. He shoots a bird at the cops while they`re out looking for potentially the body of his wife? Why?
LORNA OWENS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Hello, Nancy. That is bad behavior, and that`s going to come back to haunt him as if he is guilty of something. One has to realize if they`re looking for your wife or your ex-wife or your soon to be ex-wife, you should be there, too. You should be encouraging. You should be begging people to please come forward with information, not to be shooting off the bird, not to be behaving -- he reminds me of that Peterson guy, another ex-cop that`s behaving badly, even though the wife has disappeared, and even though she`s a mother of three little children.
GRACE: Right. To John Manuelian. Of course, that doesn`t mean anything that he`s shooting a bird at the cops, but I wouldn`t do that just driving down the interstate. Why would you do that to people that are looking for your wife, the mother of your triplets? And how come he doesn`t have custody of the three triplets? Why is custody with the sister?
JOHN MANUELIAN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, remember, with custody, it`s always the best interests of the child. And as far as his behavior is concerned, maybe he`s confident that he didn`t kill his wife and he doesn`t like the police -- maybe he doesn`t like the way the police investigation is going. I mean, his lawyer`s made statements that the investigation is not going the way it should be. So there`s something going on that we don`t know about.
GRACE: Well, as a matter of fact, you`re right. In the middle of all of this -- out to David Lohr, senior crime reporter, HuffingtonPost. In the middle of all this, David, he`s complaining that cops are bothering him? He`s worried about himself?
Everybody, look at all this footage. There you see Jacque. You`re seeing her teaching one of her triplets how to ride a bike. She`s gone. She`s gone. They were in the middle of divorce proceeding, according to her family. He says, No, I don`t know anything about that. Respond, David Lohr.
DAVID LOHR, HUFFINGTONPOST: Well, you know, he`s claiming he`s being harassed, he`s had helicopters follow him everywhere he goes. And you know, and to respond to the Drew Peterson comparison, you know, it`s kind of eerie. Here you have two cops. You know, you have two missing wives.
And I spoke to some of the searchers yesterday, and they said not only is he out there flipping them off, they said he`s pointing at them. He`s laughing at them. He`s blowing them kisses. You know, his attorney, of course, denies that. But you know, it`s reminiscent of when Drew Peterson would mock the media whenever they would come to his home.
GRACE: Everyone, we are looking for this woman, Jacque Waller. She`s just 5-2, 130 pounds, blond hair, blue eyes, the mother of 5-year-old triplets. The tip line, 573-243-3151. Her parents are here taking your calls. Just a statistic -- one third of the married women murdered in the U.S. at the hands of their spouse.
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WALLER: Just miss (INAUDIBLE) wife and my kids and we`re just -- we`re just -- we`re just trying to fight to see them.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think you`ll get that?
WALLER: Well, I hope so. I mean, it`s been a hard time for us all.
I can`t change how people feel. I mean, there`s a lot of emotions that are running high right now. We just -- I just don`t know what to say yet. I`m not sure, to be honest with you. I`m just -- we`re all just sad. It`s just sad on -- on both sides of the fence here.
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GRACE: Wait a minute. That`s the husband, Clay Waller, age 40, her estranged husband. Caryn Stark, I`m not a shrink, I`m just a lawyer. You`re the shrink, all right? No offense. But why can`t he look straight at the camera? Why does he have to look down and around and all that? You know what? Maybe I`m just projecting when my fiance was murdered long ago. Maybe I`m just projecting the three minutes I couldn`t find may baby boy, John David, in Toys R Us -- excuse me, Babies R Us. But why is he looking down? I was looking everybody right in the face saying, Help me! Help me! What`s with this?
CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: Nancy, let`s take a look at this. He`s looking down, which says that he can`t look someone in the face. So you know when someone can`t look you in the eye that they`ve got a problem right there, that there`s a good possibility he`s not telling the truth.
He doesn`t seem authentic to me. And when he does look up, he presses his lips very tightly together. Did you notice that, Nancy...
GRACE: Yes.
STARK: ... as though, I`m zipped up, you know, I`ve got a secret and I`m not sharing it with you. He doesn`t look particularly regretful. And when we pay attention to his behavior, he`s more taunting and saying, you know, I know something you don`t, and getting a lot of negative attention.
So you see a lot of discrepancy between, you know, this man, who is supposedly grieving, and the fact that he can`t even come out with words that say, This is the worst thing that happened, I miss her, I -- he`s not tearing up.
GRACE: Right.
STARK: He`s just hiding.
GRACE: With us, everyone, special guests Ruby and Stan Rawson. These are Jacque`s parents. Mr. and Mrs. Rawson, thank you for being with us. I know you`ve got to be out of your mind. I`ve been watching video of you two over and over and over, listening to everything you`ve said. I`ve also studied what Jacque`s sister told me and others.
She says that there were other incidents of domestic, let me just say, strife. She names one incident where he showed -- he said, Take a picture of the children -- this is before he left on a fishing trip. Take a picture of the triplets because it may be the last time you ever see them, and another incident where she says he put a gun in her mouth and told her she was going to commit suicide, and had pulled her in the house by her hair.
Did you know about any of these incidents, these alleged incidents, at the time they happened?
RUBY RAWSON, MISSING WOMAN`S MOTHER: No, not at the time they happened. She didn`t tell us those things then. She told -- she started talking to me about two months ago, I guess, before she disappeared, to tell me some of the things that he had threatened her with, that he was going to kill her, he was going to get her life insurance, her 401(k). He had checked to see how much child support he could get from Social Security for the triplets.
GRACE: Everybody, please, help us. The mother of these triplets is missing. They are writing letters to their Mommy. They don`t know where to send them. The letters say, Mommy, come home.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The marriage was on the rocks and Jacque was reportedly working to finalize the divorce with husband Clay Waller. Jacque disappears.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Investigators suspect foul play in Waller`s disappearance and have named her husband, Clay Waller, a person of interest.
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GRACE: Where is Jacque Sue, the mother of triplets?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police say Waller`s husband, Clay...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He murdered their mother.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... was the last person to see her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We believe he could help us, and we just haven`t had that from him.
WALLER: I`m not sure, to be honest with you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I would give my life, literally, to get my baby back alive.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: His lawyer, Scott Reynolds, says he`s advised his client not to speak to the media.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You going to talk to me today?
WALLER: I want her to come home alive.
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GRACE: We are taking your calls live. We are live in Missouri in the search for this mom of triplets, Jacque Waller. Take a look. There she is. There is a monetary award for help in the case.
Let`s go out to the lines. Out to Monica in Michigan. Hi, Monica.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy.
GRACE: Hi, dear. What`s your question?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Has the husband taken a polygraph or...
GRACE: Good question. To Faune Riggin, KZIM/KSIM. Has he taken a poly? I doubt it.
RIGGIN: No, he has not taken a polygraph test. As a matter of fact, he`s not cooperating with the police investigation whatsoever. That is, of course, on the advice of his lawyer, Scott Reynolds, who we`re -- we`re all kind of wondering why he got a criminal lawyer when he hasn`t been charged with a crime, but that`s neither here nor there. But he`s been told not to grant interviews and he`s not cooperating.
GRACE: You know what, Faune? I disagree. I don`t think it`s not here or there, I think it`s right here, right now, the fact that you lawyer up with a criminal lawyer?
Everybody, we are taking your calls on the search for this mother of triplets.
And very quickly, Ruby and Stan Rawson -- to you, Mr. Rawson. His story doesn`t make sense to me, that she came over, you thought to go pick up children, he says for a discussion, and they were going to file bankruptcy, that she leaves on foot? Then why was her car found on the interstate with a flat tire?
STAN RAWSON: Make no mistake about it, Nancy. He killed her. He knows exactly where she`s at. There`s no doubt at all in my mind and the authorities` minds.
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CLAY WALLER, ESTRANGED HUSBAND: I just miss my wife and my kids, and we`re just -- we`re just trying to fight to see them.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think you`ll get that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I hope so. I mean, it`s been a hard time for us all.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Waller was the last person to see her. He was an estrange husband. Of course, people are going to be looking at him.
NANCY GRACE, HLN HOST: Repeat, the husband, Clay Waller, is not a suspect right now, not a formal suspect.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But right now what we know --
GRACE: We are taking you calls, live. Joining us Ruby and Stan Rawson. This is Jacque`s family. Her parents joining us tonight taking your calls, live from Missouri.
To both of you, thank you for being with us.
I know that you are overwhelmed. What can you do? Where can you go? Did you put up flyers? Should you be up walking the streets yourself? Tell me how are the triplets. Her sister has the triplets tonight, right?
RUBY RAWSON, MOTHER: Correct.
GRACE: How are they doing?
RAWSON: Yes, she keeps them. They`re doing really good. See, they`ve been living up here since March. Jacqui had already moved up here because her job was going to be where she could work from home with the insurance company. So she had already moved up and lived in with her sister. And she had rented a home in Farmington. And like we said before, she was getting bedrooms and bathroom painted for the kids the day that she disappeared. She was really anxious to get home to see what it would look like.
GRACE: Mr. and Mrs. Rawson, I just hate what you`re going through. I`m just, your daughter, she`s just beautiful on the inside and out. And we have studied her and researched her, what a wonderful mother, holding her family together in the middle of all this marital strife. Everything that she`s been going through, finally get the guts and the courage to go ahead and divorce, and this happens.
And I`m thinking about my own daughter -- how you love them, you nurture them. You pour everything you`ve got into your children. Every dream of theirs becomes your dream. When they hurt, you hurt. When they cry, you cry. And to get her to this point where you think she`s happy, she`s got a job, she`s got this beautiful children, she`s got a husband, you think you`ve got her situated.
I mean, I just want to live to get my children situated and happy. With a family of their own. And then this. Do the triplets understand what`s going on, Ms. Rawson?
RUBY RAWSON: No, they just know that their mother is missing. They know that one morning they woke up and she went to work, and she didn`t come back home.
STAN RAWSON: Yes. They come up with all kinds of scenarios between them. You know, they talk about it themselves. They decided for a while that she went camping and just didn`t make it back, and she`ll be back before too long.
Then they decided that her boss was keeping her overtime. That she would be home. Yes.
Then they did say one time that their mom must have decided she didn`t like her family, and she was going to go find her a better family. And the one that really gets you is they decided that their mom is in heaven. And you know, it eats you up.
Sheryl says every night at bed time, they say their prayers to their mommy. They want her, they want her back. And it`s funny, they seldom, if ever, mention their dad. We make an effort not to say anything derogatory about him, but they don`t even ask about him.
GRACE: You know --
STAN RAWSON: I don`t understand that.
GRACE: You know, I don`t know if this is right or wrong. I`m sure the shrink will get all crazy about this. But I don`t even say die. I don`t even say that around my twins. They`re almost four. They don`t have any concept of death or tragedy, nothing. We don`t even say the word gun in the house, at all. Nothing like that, because I don`t think they`re ready to hear that kind of thing, if I can help it.
And now the triplets have to face this at age 5. They`re only one year older than my little twins.
I want to get back to the facts with you, Mr. Rawson. I don`t understand him saying that she comes over. You think she`s coming to pick up one of the children or all three of them. He says, no, that`s not the case, that she leaves on foot.
Why would she leave on foot and neighbors place her car right there outside of his house until 8:30, and then the car mysteriously ends up on the interstate, with a flat tire? Hello, they can tell if the tire was slashed or not. Then the contents of her pocket book, her business cards, specifically, found strewn about ten miles away -- her cell, her purse, her keys, all gone.
And what do you make of that? What do you think happened, Stan Rawson?
STAN RAWSON: Well, Nancy, it`s obvious to me, I don`t understand his way of thinking. I wish I did, maybe I would know where she was. But she definitely went by to pick up Maddie, the boy. He was the only one that was there. And she had been lure there by clay, just for the purpose, I`m sure, of killing her.
He told her, he says, you`ve got 30 days to live, and that was just about 30 days before he killed her. And she told us that. Now you`ve got to remember one thing. She never told me these things. She didn`t tell her dad. I don`t know whether she was trying to protect us or what. I think it`s the Abused Woman Syndrome. But I didn`t find out about all of this, until all just a week maybe before she came up missing.
GRACE: Oh, no.
STAN RAWSON: And, you know, I wanted to -- I wanted to go down and straighten the situation out as any father would. You know, we can take her brother and a couple of others, and we would discuss this with him. And she said, oh, no, no, dad, don`t do that, that will only make it worse. She said, I can control him. And I said Jacque, this is a dangerous game you`re playing.
She said, no, I can control him. I`ll just buy him off. Well, she offered him $50,000 the minute the divorce was final, and she wanted nothing in the way of child support. Nothing.
She had a good job. She says, I`ll take care of my kids. And as far as her wandering off after meeting with him, she was talking to a friend the minute she drove into the driveway. She says, according to the friend who has no reason at all to lie about it, she says, oh, Clay`s here already, I guess he has -- Maddie is ready to go probably, and I`ll pick him up and I`ll be home in about 15 or 20 minutes. And she was excited about going to look at her new house. That`s the last anybody heard from her.
GRACE: Listen, I`m a crime victim. I don`t want to put it to you this way, but there`s no other way to say it, do you think Jacque is dead?
STAN RAWSON: I know she`s dead. There`s no doubt in my mind. None whatsoever. And I think she was dead two or three minutes after she walked that house and it kills me I can say it now without crying.
GRACE: Because I remember when I was laid up in the hospital when Lucy and I were so, so sick and almost died after they were born, the thought that they would be raised without their mother was just killing me.
To Pat Brown, criminal profiler, weigh in, Pat.
PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, that husband is acting like a total weasel. And if she walked out of that house for any reason, why didn`t she then make a phone call to somebody. If her car broke down five miles away, why didn`t she call somebody to say, hey, you know, I have a flat tire, come and get me. The only reason that car is only five miles away, because that`s how close you need to have it to be able to walk back to your home.
GRACE: To Dr. Zhonghue Hua, Union County, chief medical examiner, you know, those business cards are intriguing me. Her business cards found about ten miles away, seemingly in good condition, but strewn on the ground.
What can you tell us from that clue, what?
DR. ZHONGHUE HUA, UNION COUNTY, CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER: First of all, obviously you have to dust for fingerprints, to see who is the last holding the business cards. And try to lay the maps to see where -- is it because she dropped it, or did the husband dropped the business cards there?
GRACE: Everyone, we are taking your calls.
Jacque Waller, the mother of these three beautifully triplets is missing. Could she still be alive?
There is a reward. The tip line, 573-243-3151. Her grandparents have a letter the triplets wrote, they say, mommy, mommy, come home.
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STAN RAWSON: We don`t be let down. This will work out. We won`t get Jacque back alive. I don`t think. You know, I would give my life, literally, to get my baby back alive. That`s not going to happen, but we need to have closure.
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WALLER: I can`t change how people feel. I mean, there`s a lot of emotions that are running high right now.
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GRACE: A lot of emotions. Well, he sure didn`t show it. That is Jacque`s husband, Clay Waller, her estranged husband. According to Jacque`s family, he says no, that there was no divorce in the works. Well, then, why had she already rented an apartment for herself and her triplets in the city where her sister lives?
Her parents are with us tonight.
Everybody, we are taking your calls.
I want to go back to Ruby and Stan Rawson. These are Jacque`s parents, and they have been leading the fight to find her, which is interesting that I don`t see him leading the campaign to find her.
I want to ask you about some alleged blood evidence that you say was found in the home. What do you know about it, Mr. Rawson?
STAN RAWSON: Well, Nancy, I got a little carried away yesterday. I guess it was, and started talking about the blood evidence and the chief of police down there slapped me around for that. And he said, don`t be doing that, so I can`t talk about it, but believe me, believe me, it`s there. It`s there.
GRACE: OK, you know what, Mr. Rawson, Mr. Rawson, I completely understand and no way do I want to harm the integrity of the investigation.
Liz, please put up the tip line one more time.
Please, help us find the mother of these beautiful triplets. Don`t make them go through life wondering what happened to mommy.
I have got to tell you about another story.
Take a listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We found the body.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 25-year-old Lauren Giddings --
GRACE: Mercer University law student.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A body found on the left side of her apartment building.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She wanted to be a voice for the voiceless.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The world before her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Neighbor Stephen McDaniel --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He says he and other friends looked for Giddings.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They went in. We looked around the place --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Then searched her apartment before calling police.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No sign of a struggle, no sign that anyone had broken in.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Investigators left Giddings` apartment carrying brown bags but would not say what was inside.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They are on site and they will continue to go back.
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GRACE: We are live with the latest on this beautiful Mercer Law School grad, the world in front of her, just set to take the bar. She wanted to represent people that could not speak for themselves, to do good in the world.
She was very afraid there in her apartment, her tiny apartment. Someone had tried to break in before, then she goes missing.
Eric Jens, News director, WRGA. Her torso was found. Her torso was found outside her apartment. What do we know, Eric?
ERIC JENS, NEWS DIRECTOR, WRGA RADIO: Well, minus that torso, we might have a missing persons case on our hands because there are very few additional details at this point that are being released by police. We do know that her last confirmed sighting was June 25 at this Zaxby`s Restaurant drive through.
Police have also been able to tell us that she did return to her apartment that night because that`s where they found the receipt, however beyond that, there`s not much to talk about.
GRACE: To special guest, Kaitlyn Wheeler. This is Lauren`s sister. Kaitlyn, thank you so much for being with us.
I know that you are beside yourself with grief. Beside yourself.
Tell me, I know you logged into her Facebook and her e-mail account, what if anything did you discover, Kaitlyn?
KAITLYN WHEELER, SISTER: When I logged in, I discovered right away that she had neither read nor sent an email or a Facebook message since Saturday night. And right then, that was literally the breaking point for me. That was the point of panic.
GRACE: Because she was always on Facebook and e-mail, right?
WHEELER: She always would be on her G mail. She had G mail sent to her phone and she also would be on G mail chat with friends. So I knew, maybe if it was a day I wouldn`t panic, but definitely being since Saturday night, this was Wednesday evening when I went into her e-mail, so I knew right then that there was something that was definitely wrong.
GRACE: Tip line, 478-751-7500.
Let`s see them up, Liz.
June 25, Lauren Giddings last seen at a nearby restaurant. It was at Zaxby`s. June 30th, she`s reported missing. Very soon after that, her torso found.
This beautiful, young girl, so smart, so beautiful, so good spirited, so gentle spirited. Why? Why would someone kill her and dismember her?
Kaitlyn Wheeler is with us. This is Lauren`s sister, in the midst of her grief, she`s speaking out trying to get answers.
Kaitlyn, question, she was afraid in her apartment. Why was she afraid?
WHEELER: In her e-mail that was last sent, she has said that someone had tried to break into her apartment Thursday night and that she was afraid. But in general, she was not afraid of her apartment, like had been said in an interview by her neighbor. She did feel safe there. There was never a threat. It was just in that e-mail that we found that she had mentioned someone trying to break in.
GRACE: To Thomas Shamshak, former police chief, private investigator, instructor BU, Boston University. Weigh in, Tom.
THOMAS P. SHAMSHAK, FORMER POLICE CHIEF: Nancy, good evening. This is a very strange case, but I think the police are beginning to focus in a laser light on the building.
Let`s assume that someplace in that building, there will be a found crime scene, looking for blood, hair, fibers, human tissue. I guess, there were apartments that were vacant. They`ll be pulling plumbing out of there and the focus of this investigation will be in that building looking to link her remains to someplace in that building, Nancy.
GRACE: We`ll be right back, tonight, CNN Heroes.
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ROBIN LIM, ACTIVIST: The moment that a woman falls pregnant in Indonesia, she is 300 times more likely to die in the next 12 months than if she was not pregnant.
If you have money you can get excellent medical services, but the poorest people don`t always get the services they need. In the hospital here, you cannot take your baby home until you pay the bill. Sometimes the mothers wait outside all day waiting to get in to feed their baby and to change their baby`s diaper.
My name is Robin Lim. I`m a midwife.
Most people call me Ibu Robin because Ibu means mother. I`ve learned about the dangers of motherhood when my own sister, she died as a complication of her third pregnancy. I was just really crushed.
I came to Bali to reinvent my life.
Hi, baby, hi.
I started the clinic run by Indonesian midwives. We offer prenatal care, birth services. No matter how poor they are, no matter their race or religion, we teach new graduating classes of midwives how to do a more natural, gentle birth. The women can stay as long as they want.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): Robin helps poor people. She cares about me very much, like my own mother. I`m extremely grateful. Each baby, each adult deserves a clean, healthy, loving environment. Those are a human right.
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GRACE: What a week in America`s courtrooms. Take a look at the stories and more important the people who touched our lives.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this Casey Anthony returning to Orlando?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s not here in Orlando.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is this Casey Anthony?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s going to Florida?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m not going to tell you that either.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The big question tonight is, is it real or is it a hoax?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely 100 percent tell you that that is not her.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 911 where is your emergency?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The father of my child took our daughter, and I don`t know where he`s at with her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kathryn Phillips is still missing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police say after arguing with her mother, 21-year- old Sean Phillips drove away with 4-month-old Kate Phillips.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A teen is accused of beating his parents to death with a hammer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bloody double murder, beaten on the head and body.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The crime scene was certainly a merciless killing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And then inviting his friends over for a house party.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He said Macaluso was playing games.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why go to such an effort to pull a prank?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That is not Casey. Macaluso is having fun with you and I had no knowledge of that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We caught up with Macaluso.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where`s Casey today?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s not here. And she`s not at my house.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is that Casey Anthony undercover?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The two women have a similar walk.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wearing skinny jeans walking out of the Orange County jail.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have to wonder why anyone would go to all this trouble as a hoax.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s not something we`re condoning, and I think that we`ve seen the last of that.
GRACE: What a crock of BS.
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GRACE: Let`s stop and remember Marine Lance Corporal Shane Harris, 23, Las Vegas, New Mexico, killed in Iraq. Awarded Purple Heart and Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal. National Defense Service Medal.
Loved God, family, banjo, guitar, skiing, New Mexico mountains. A ski run named in his honor "Shane`s Glade." A volunteer firefighters, built custom rifles and log cabins. Remembered for his touching rendition of "Amazing Grace."
Leaves behind grieving parents, Poppy and Carol, brothers, Logan and Ryan sister, Tiffany. Shane Harris, American hero.
Thanks to our guests, but especially to you. And a special good night from Michigan friend, Elisa. Isn`t she beautiful? Thank you for being with us, Elisa.
Everyone, I`ll see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.
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