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Aired August 12, 2011 - 15:00 ET
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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Drew Griffin, thank you. Don't go too far. I want to talk to you about that piece out of Mississippi.
But for now, hello to all of you. Good afternoon. I'm Brooke Baldwin.
Let's begin where Drew sort of left off there. And you know what, you need a scorecard today or maybe a traffic cop just to keep up with all the presidential hopefuls.
And just to help out, I'm giving you a map. Des Moines, Iowa, ground zero ahead of tomorrow's Iowa straw poll. Des Moines, Iowa, flooded with Republican candidates. Plus, yes, Sarah Palin, she turned up, arrived there just a short time ago.
She is not, I repeat, not in the race, at least not officially. But why else would she be in Des Moines? Sarah Palin is in Iowa, but not the front-runner. No, Mitt Romney left Iowa. He bolted Iowa. Today he's in New Hampshire, the state he's banking on to help clinch the nomination.
And as we broke the news on this show just yesterday, South Carolina is awaiting Rick Perry, the Texas governor set to announce tomorrow in Charleston that, yes, he is getting into the race. And that, my friends, will make this a whole new ball game.
I want to begin in Des Moines. Paul Steinhauser is there again for us today.
And, Paul, besides Sarah Palin arriving there today, tell me what's the big story emerging?
PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN DEPUTY POLITICAL DIRECTOR: Yes. Well, not much going on, Brooke, right? Everything you just said would be up with -- yes, this is -- OK, so this is the state fair. Let me just give you a little bit of -- here it is. We got the bus here.
This is basically today the center of the universe for retail politics. Peter Hamby was just with Palin. He will be here in a second to tell you about that. But we have also seen a bunch of the other candidates, seven of them, in fact, talking at what's called soapbox, which is a stage with straw behind right the bus here. And we really had some fireworks today with Tim Pawlenty and a gay rights activist. It was interesting, kind of reminiscent of what we saw yesterday with Mitt Romney when he was talking here. This is all leading up to tomorrow and that straw poll in Ames, Iowa, just 30 miles away from here.
For Pawlenty, for Bachmann, for some of the other candidates, a lot on the line. This straw poll could hurt a campaign, no doubt about it.
BALDWIN: Let's talk a little bit more about that straw poll, Paul Steinhauser. We know it could claim some casualties in one or more campaigns.
But let's talk specifically here about Rick Santorum. Let's take a look at some video here. You're going to see Rick Santorum campaigning today at the Iowa State Fair. He complained of being neglected during last night's debate. Listen here. Here he is talking about his chances come tomorrow.
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RICK SANTORUM (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If we can finish in the top five, top four, that means we're in the race to be one of those three or four candidates. And as I said before, it's not like we have been spending millions of dollars here. It's not like we have been getting a lot of attention, a lot of buzz. We call ourselves the little engine that could campaign. We have got a lot of shiny engines. Whew, look at this engine coming, oh, look at this engine coming.
And we just keep -- we hitched it up and we have headed up the mountain.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: Paul, he said he needs to finish top four, top five. What are his chances of actually accomplishing that?
STEINHAUSER: Well, Santorum's campaign, not a lot of cash, let's be honest, not a lot of campaign cash. He hasn't been getting a lot of media attention. But he's been crisscrossing the state, going to towns that some of the other, more larger campaigns are not going to. And he's beloved by many social conservatives because of his stances on many social conservative issues.
And you know what? After he made that sound, he was right here standing where I am right now talking to our chief White House correspondent -- or chief political correspondent, Candy Crowley, and he told her -- he was even stronger than in that sound. He said, you know what, if I don't finish in the top five, that could be it for me.
And, Brooke, we have seen that in years past. Tommy Thompson, the former Wisconsin governor, four years ago did not do very well here. He dropped out a few days later. Santorum is saying something similar to our Candy Crowley just a few moments ago, Brooke. BALDWIN: You mentioned also the soapbox, like a hay bale box at the Iowa State Fair. We have been seeing the presidential hopefuls speaking from there. It's pretty darn cool. These candidates get to hop up there and talk straight to the people. And sometimes it gets confrontational as it did as we saw with Mitt Romney yesterday.
Newt Gingrich is due there shortly. Just a short time ago we saw Tim Pawlenty sparring with a man who pressed him on his stance against same-sex marriage. Let's listen to that.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is something that is hurting my future and how I get to live my life. And that is something that's odd. Someone that talks about government that gets out of your lives -- why does government get involved in our marriages? It has nothing to do with that, OK?
TIM PAWLENTY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So the question -- the gentleman wants to know why is government is getting involved in the marriage issue.
Actually, every -- I think every state has and has had for the history of our country laws defining marriage or addressing marriage. So this is not a new thing. But it's an important thing. So we're just going to have a respectful disagreement.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you think I'm a second-class citizen?
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BALDWIN: Paul, you have spent time over at the soapbox. How does it work? Do they get X amount of time to talk, X amount of questions thrown at them? And, you know, shouldn't we have that everywhere, where we can just have straight talk with these folks?
STEINHAUSER: That's the beauty of the state fair here. That's called the soapbox. It's right behind the bus here. It's "The Des Moines Register"'s stage. That's the big newspaper, one of the major newspapers out here in Iowa.
And the candidates all get some time. Anybody can really go up there. That's the beauty of this. There's nobody that is restricted. Some -- it can just be an average voter. Sometimes, it can be an activist definitely with an agenda. We saw that yesterday with Mitt Romney. That could be the case here. That what makes it very unpredictable here in Iowa, Brooke.
BALDWIN: OK, Paul Steinhauser, thank you so much.
And Paul mentioned, as we mentioned, Sarah Palin, she is out there. She's arrived in Des Moines. But listen here, because some folks are saying that Palin continues to crash other people's parties. Remember, let me take you back. She turned up in New Hampshire the very day Mitt Romney announced he was running for president and then she turned up in Iowa just as Michele Bachmann made her announcement. Peter Hamby out there in that same spot in Des Moines.
Mr. Hamby, Sarah Palin certainly has an interesting sense of timing, does she not?
PETER HAMBY, CNN POLITICAL PRODUCER: She really does.
If you will recall in her last bus tour around Memorial Day, on the same day Mitt Romney announced for president, Sarah Palin came out and she told me she trashed his health care plan in Massachusetts. And again, she shows up here in Iowa when the political universe is here, every reporter from Washington is out here in Iowa, every presidential candidate and, voila, here she is.
She's a master of getting attention, but she's good at it. Earlier today, Tim Pawlenty was walking around the fairgrounds here. He went largely unnoticed. And then just minutes later, Sarah Palin shows up, she's swarmed by reporters, cameramen. We're tiptoeing over pitchforks and prize-winning cattle in a barn right up the way from here.
And we asked her, like, do you think you're crashing the presidential party, Brooke? Here's what she said.
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SARAH PALIN (R), FORMER ALASKA GOVERNOR: I don't think I'm stealing any spotlight. In fact, if anybody thinks I'm stealing the spotlight, go, go find the other folks and say hello.
Very thankful to have been invited to the state fair and to get to be with my family and highlight this all-American venue. And this is part of our One Nation Tour road trip. And we will get to do some more historical events. And I consider the Iowa State Fair quite historical.
QUESTION: So, listen, why haven't you decided? Why haven't you declared?
PALIN: -- that I'm not the only one who has not decided yet and not ready to announce --
PALIN: -- yet. There's still a lot of contemplation that needs to go into such a earth-shattering, life-changing decision.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMBY: So you heard her there. She was talking to our Don Lemon earlier. Just a coincidence she was invited out here.
A lot of people say that Sarah Palin isn't doing the things you're supposed to do to run for president, lining up operatives in these key early states, raising money. But she is doing some stuff behind the scenes. After she talked to the media for more than an hour, by the way --
HAMBY: -- she walked into a private reception with local Republican activists here.
She was being escorted around the state fair by an Iowa political operative named Becky Beach, who has helped set up meetings for her in the past and she's coming back here on Labor Day. So, again, is time running out for Sarah Palin to jump in the race? Maybe. But you can't entirely rule her out and she said, as she always does, if she decides to run for president, she's going to do it in her own way. And we saw that here today, Brooke.
BALDWIN: I was counting. I was watching the feed coming in, counting all the tape recorders, cameras all in her face. She certainly -- it worked. She got everyone's attention, didn't she, Peter Hamby?
Peter Hamby in Des Moines, thank you so much.
And to Texas next. A Texas court releasing recordings of polygamist leader Warren Jeffs instructing young girls how to please him sexually. Later this hour, you will hear the chilling recordings that helped convict Jeffs of raping those children.
But up next, we know he's the governor of Texas and we know he plans to announce his candidacy for president tomorrow. But beyond that, who really is Rick Perry? Well, my next calls him George W. Bush on steroids. I will ask him to elaborate after this.
BALDWIN: So, who really is Rick Perry, the guy announcing tomorrow he's in the race for president?
To answer that one question, we turn to one of Perry's fellow Texans, the incomparable Wayne Slater of "The Dallas Morning News."
Wayne, we go to you for all things Texas and all things politics here. Good to have you on. We know Governor Perry last night, he gave this interview. And even though he hasn't yet officially announced that he is running for president, even though he hasn't actually been nominated, hasn't been elected, much less inaugurated, he's talking as though he is the president. Listen to this.
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GOV. RICK PERRY (R), TEXAS: My hope is that in four years people can take a look at what we have done in Washington, D.C., and they know that I have made Washington, D.C., less consequential in their lives.
(END VIDEO CLIP) BALDWIN: Wayne Slater, let's assume Governor Perry has no shortage of confidence here.
Tell us something else about Governor Rick Perry that folks outside the great state of Texas may not know.
WAYNE SLATER, COLUMNIST, "THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS": Well, let me tell you a couple things. One, you're right. He is George Bush on steroids.
People who thought they knew who George Bush was, Rick Perry is the real thing. He was actually born on a west Texas -- raised on a West Texas ranch. He wears cowboy boots every day, as do a lot Texans. He was educated at Texas A&M. That's the Aggie college, where he was a Yell Leader.
He carries a pistol with him, laser-fired pistol, laser-lighted pistol when he jogs. And at least this is not necessarily Texan, he's a man of trust in his family. His father-in-law actually did his vasectomy. He's a man who trusts his family and lives big in Texas.
BALDWIN: Well, Wayne Slater, you are the man who get the details. I will give you that.
BALDWIN: As you mentioned, you know, you have referenced Rick Perry as George W. Bush on steroids.
Let's listen to Rick Perry. This was when he was addressing a Tea Party movement rally. This was back on April 15, 2009.
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PERRY: It gives me that thrill of my leg when I see all the people standing out here on the City Hall of Austin, Texas with liberty in their hearts and independence on their mind. I'm talking about states' rights, states' rights, states' rights.
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: Now, we know states' rights, that whole thing has some loaded connotations.
But talk about the likeness with Bush. If you close your eyes, you lower the volume just a tad, you almost think you were listening to George W. Bush.
Do you, Wayne Slater, think, though, that that would hurt him?
SLATER: I think it will hurt him. I think it's a problem. I think the rest of the country will listen to Rick Perry, the cadence of his voice, the sound of his voice, the accent that he uses and will see it as simply as, do we want another Texan in the White House?
I think that's a problem with some voters. Ultimately, though, his political handlers think that won't be that important. In fact, there are things about Perry's record, it not without blemish, but his handlers believe those things will not be significantly important.
The only thing this race is going to be about, they think, will be the economy and jobs. Rick Perry stands up and says, I created jobs in Texas. Sure, I may be a Texan, sure, I may not lack for confidence, but if you want to fix the economy in America, and a lot of voters do, vote for me.
BALDWIN: Yes. Yes. I mean, obviously the man talks about God, talks about states' rights, job creation. I mean, in terms of Texas, the jobs numbers are pretty impressive.
SLATER: Well, they are impressive. There are things you can look at and you can pick at it, like the jobs of, many of those were low-pay, low-wage jobs, that the effort to lure companies into Texas has been in part with sort of lenient regulation, which has resulted in some pollution, that our programs for the poor and disabled are pretty much pretty skimpy if you look at it.
So these are things that he can be criticized for and will be criticized for. But, again, I think Perry's people believe that right now voters see a lack of decisiveness in the White House and that voters want somebody who will fix things. If Perry can present himself as someone who can fix things and has invoked, among other things, God's intervention or God's assistance in helping him pick things, it is a great message at least for primary, Republican primary voters.
BALDWIN: Impressive jobs numbers. I guess I don't want to get in his way though in a scuffle as he's running. Not to self, given the info you gave me.
BALDWIN: Wayne Slater, "Dallas Morning News," also wonderful to have you on. Thank you, Wayne, so much. We will all be watching Governor Perry's announcement tomorrow.
Also, this. A jury voted for the death penalty this week for a convicted serial killer. But did the judge actually follow the jury's recommendation? We will have that story for you coming up.
Also, flash mobs of teenagers have been attacking people in Philadelphia. Now the mayor is resorting to what he's calling tough love. But he also has a message to parents. We are going to take you live to Philadelphia, explain what's happening there, next.
BALDWIN: Just hours from now, one of America's biggest cities will start enforcing new hours to a strict curfew to track down -- to crack down -- excuse me -- on all those violent flash mobs. Gangs of teens, take a look, some as young as 11, are joining groups to attack random people. Many of these attacks apparently for no reason at all.
Here's a little sidebar, though. The unemployment rate for African -- excuse me -- for American teenagers topping 26 percent. Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter taking a stand here, saying there's absolutely no excuse for these attacks.
CNN's Susan Candiotti, she is following this story for us in Philadelphia.
And, Susan, are these flash mobs, is it citywide problem or is it just endemic to certain neighborhoods?
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, mainly trouble has happened in the Center City area. But there has been violence, general violence and flash mobs as well in other parts of the city.
But mainly the mayor wants to concentrate on the city limits right now, certain parts of downtown, because, after all, it's very popular with locals, very popular with tourists. Look, we're coming to you live from Love Park right across from City Hall. And it's a popular place.
He doesn't want to tarnish the image of downtown. That's why he's paying special attention to this area. And that's also why he's saying enough is enough, extending the curfew to start at 9:00 tonight instead of 10:00 tonight in a couple of areas and getting more police out there.
As you have heard, there have been some recent attacks particularly troubling and violent, one of them involving someone as young as 11 years old. There have been eight incidents in the last 20 months alone. And this week, the mayor very bluntly was calling out the predominantly black attackers who have been involved as troublemakers.
Here's what he said.
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MICHAEL NUTTER (D), MAYOR OF PHILADELPHIA: You have damaged yourself, you've damaged another person, you've damaged your peers and, quite honestly, you've damaged your own race.
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CANDIOTTI: Now, the mayor isn't blaming everything on kids. He's also calling on parents to say, hey, you better watch out, you better make sure you know where your kids are. Because if they're not off the streets when they're supposed to be and if they get involved in trouble, then he's going to make them pay fines after a warning of up to $500, Brooke.
BALDWIN: So curfew extended to 9:00 tonight. Obviously Mayor Nutter thinks it will work or else he would not be doing it.
But you're talking to people there in Center City. Do they think it will be effective?
CANDIOTTI: Well, they're hopeful. And they also have a lot of volunteers who are going to be out in civilian patrols roaming the streets to help out the police, identified with wearing green T-shirts to make sure the kids see them and know that they're not going to put up with it.
BALDWIN: Not taking anything there in Philly. Susan, thank you so much.
And neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night can stop mail carriers from completion of their appointed rounds. But budget cuts, that is another story. The Postal Service's drastic cost- cutting plan, that is coming up.
And if you go outside tonight, look up. We will explain why next.
But, first, this week's "Human Factor."
Chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta introduces us to a doctor who fought childhood obesity and finally took his own advice.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: You're a doctor, and you're on the front line of the childhood obesity epidemic, something that people talk about quite a bit. You decided that you wanted to actually not only preach about this, but to actually practice it as well. Is that right?
DR. SCOTT ZAHN, CNN FIT NATION TRIATHLETE: yes.
GUPTA: Tell me what inspired that. How did you decide to do a triathlon?
ZAHN: I just decided to do something. It just happened to be a triathlon. But, you know, as I was talking to my patients who are overweight, I realized that, you know, I needed to listen to what I was telling them. And I needed to set a goal for myself, something in the future to inspire me to do that.
GUPTA: A year ago, could you have imagined yourself doing this?
ZAHN: No way.
GUPTA: What changed and what is the lesson for other people out there who say no way? I'm never going to do that?
ZAHN: For me, it was to just start. To just make that first drive to the club and get on a treadmill and start walking, then do it the next day, the next day, and just build on that. But the key really for me was to just start. GUPTA: Your body changed significantly. How much weight did you lose? When is the last time you weighed that much?
ZAHN: I have lost about 60 pounds. I'm under 200 pounds for the first time in 20, 30 years. I'm not even sure the last time I weighed under 200 pounds. So, physically I have changed.
GUPTA: You're also off all of your medications. As a doctor, this is important because a lot of people get the cholesterol medications, blood pressure medications. You don't always need them if you diet and exercise.
ZAHN: Right. If you diet and exercise, you can get off them. I was able to do that, you know. I talked in my video that my family history was kind of against me. I kind of realized that the genetics were against me but not my family history. So, you can change your family history by diet and exercise.
GUPTA: It's a pretty remarkable thing. Dr. Scott Zahn, I appreciate it very much. Thanks for joining us.
ZAHN: Thank you.
GUPTA: Back to you.
BALDWIN: Let's get to some of these top stories here.
An Ohio serial killer is sentenced to death by lethal injection. Today, a judge upheld the jury's sentencing recommendation. Jurors convicted Anthony Sowell of murdering 11 women and abusing their corpses. Their remains were found in Sowell's home, his backyard, his walls beginning back in October of 2009. The 51-year-old pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, said he was sorry for what he had done.
Thousands of postal workers are in danger of losing their jobs. The U.S. Postal Service wants to lay off 120,000 workers. It also wants to replace workers' retirement and health benefit plans covering federal workers with its own benefits system. It does need congressional approval to do both of those things and likely would face severe opposition from postal unions. The Postal Service lost $8 billion last year.
August is a great month to watch falling stars. And tonight is one of the best nights of all to look up. The Perseid meteor shower makes its return to our part of the sky. So on a normal Perseid night, you can actually catch between 50 to 80 shooting stars an hour. However, we have one problem tonight. It's a full moon and that might make this just a little bit tough to see.
Coming up, a group of teenagers accused of killing a man just because he's black.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely. There's no doubt. They were looking for a black victim to assault and even kill.
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BALDWIN: Police say surveillance cameras show these teenagers viciously beating this man, then coming back in their pickup truck to finish him off. CNN investigates. That is ahead.
But up next, inside the very room where Warren Jeffs is believed to have raped these children. Also, those audio recordings that helped land him in prison for the rest of his life, we have got it for you -- back in 80 seconds.
POPPY HARLOW, CNNMONEY.COM: Time for the "Help Desk" where we get answers to financial questions. Joining me this hour, Manisha Thakor, personal finance expert, John Ulzheimer, the president of Consumer Education at SmartCredit.com. Guys, thanks for being here.
Interesting question for John from Eric in Miami. Eric asks, I'm comparing student loans and was given quotes for a fixed rate at 7.75 percent quote and the variable rate starting at 3.25 percent. The variable rate, of course, is so tempting. Which is a safer choice?
JOHN ULZHEIMER, PRESIDENT OF CONSUMER EDUCATION, SMARTCREDIT.COM: Seven and three quarters percent smells suspiciously like a private loan, which means the rates are higher. But it's fixed. Don't fall in love with that smaller interest rate. Pay close attention to it. How long that rate is going to be the lower rate is going to be fixed, because once you come out of the safe harbor period, it's going to adjust up.
Understand what the cap is on that loan, meaning how can it go eventually and understand how quickly it can accelerate to that maximum amount, because student loans are paid off over a long period of time, much longer than a car loan, for example. So even paying a little bit now and a lot more later.
HARLOW: Don't be tempted by the low rate.
ULZHEIMER: It might be safer to take the higher rate and lock it in.
HARLOW: Manisha, your question comes from Michael in Virginia. Michael writes "I recently accepted a teaching job in Japan." Interesting. He will be there for at least a year." Since I'm getting paid in yen, how can I invest that money without getting nailed in conversion rates and fees?"
MANISHA THAKOR, PERSONAL FINANCE EXPERT: That's an interesting question. So my recommendation is open a multicurrency account. Lloyd's, Barclay's HSBC. You can go to ExPatFinder.com to research more of your options. But the key is if he's only going to be there a year and he's saving for the long run, he's going to be spending those dollars likely in the U.S., doesn't want to take the currency risk. A multicurrency account will enable him to convert that funds at closer to institutional rates.
And also remember Japan is not a terribly structurally attractive economy to be investing in to begin with, demographically, debt to GDP, a lot that you may want to stay away from there.
HARLOW: He could leave his savings here in the U.S., just keep it put where it is?
THAKOR: Exactly. If I understood his question correctly, he was saying any new money that I'm earning in yen, how can I bring it back? I'm thrilled that he's thinking he might have savings while being over there. That's great.
HARLOW: Guys, thank you so much. If you have a question answered, send us an e-mail any time to CNN Help Desk at CNN.com.
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: If you have not reached the conclusion that convicted child rapist and polygamist leader Warren Jeffs was a sexual predator, well, some newly released audiotapes just might convince you.
And then there's this, this picture from inside Jeffs' temple. Look at this. This is after that raid on his compound back in 2008. It's on this very white bed here where prosecutors say Jeffs forced his underage wives to have sex with him. Pictures like these disturbing audiotapes helped this jury convict Jeffs of sexually assaulting a 12-year-old and a 15-year-old girl.
I want to play you just a portion of those audio recordings. You can hear Jeffs preparing young girls to, I guess, as he was thinking to physically become his wives.
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WARREN JEFFS, CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER: You'll always come in my area always showered, already ready, in case you are called to assist.
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BALDWIN: Ed Lavandera in Texas. This gives me the chills. I can only listen to so many of niece audio recordings.
ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And there's three hours of recordings. Just from the outset here, Brooke, just to give people an understanding, the most graphic of these tapes we won't be playing. But in hearing Warren Jeffs talk to them, it really gives you a clear indication of how he approached these women. Remember, prosecutors say they believe he had some 79 wives, two dozen of those believed to be underage wives, of course. These three hours of testimony you mentioned off the top there saying it went a long way in helping this jury convict him. Many of the jurors when they heard the audio tapes were crying as they heard Warren Jeffs.
Let's play a little bit because it really gives you the sense of the kind of control that Warren Jeffs had. In one of the moments he was talking about, "I can't allow people to be present who are not ready, who have selfish feelings or are fearful." Clearly, you can get the sense that Warren Jeffs puts himself in control of the situation.
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JEFFS: Now, I will reveal to you what the lord is required of me and this family, that the fullness of the law of Sarah is for quorums of wives to be with me, to assist me, to be a comfort, yes, even physically, where more than one woman is with me at a time.
My ladies at the right moment are called to assist me. And through their tenderness, and in their wifely, womanly ways are able to revive me. I am not to go into the hands of the medical people or they will destroy me. The lord has appointed that my wives who are filled with the holy ghost can help revive me.
This takes place in such privacy people don't know anything about it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: OK, so we listened to the tapes. I'm sitting here thinking, though, why is the court releasing these tapes? We know Jeffs has gone away for a very long time. What's the purpose of the public hearing this?
LAVANDERA: Well, this was requested through various salt lake city news media outlets. This was evidence that was presented in court so this is considered public information at this point.
BALDWIN: And do we know -- I know it was emotional from what I remember us reporting within the courtroom when the audio recordings were played for the jury. Do we know how Jeffs reacted in the courtroom?
LAVANDERA: You know, this is the interesting part about this. Remember, he wanted to represent himself. He essentially acted as his own defense attorney inside the courtroom. He really had no reaction. He simply, this type of testimony, this kind of evidence he argued to the court that this shouldn't have been used in court because it should have been protected, should have had a religious protection. Obviously that went nowhere with this jury.
And a defense attorney, perhaps a seasoned defense attorney would have at least tried to create some doubt. It's interesting as you hear the tapes, sexual explicit words are never used. There's never anyone totally describing what's going on in the situation. Warren Jeffs uses this loaded vocabulary. He talks about the sessions as atonement issues, and as you heard him in the tape, talking about the women coming over to assist him. Obviously very loaded vocabulary, but it's nothing that tells you exactly what's going on in there.
BALDWIN: I remember the jury deliberated for all of four hours. They asked to hear some of the recordings again. Once they were finished, they convicted him like that. Ed Lavandera in Texas.
BALDWIN: Thank you.
And a horrific crime caught on camera, teenagers pumping their fists in the air shouting white power as a black man lay bloodied in a parking lot. But the worst was yet to come. CNN's Drew Griffin is going to join me here to talk about his chilling investigation out of Mississippi after the break.
BALDWIN: Brutal crime prosecutors say was racially motivated. And this is not something that happened in Mississippi's troubled past. No, this happened just a couple of months ago. A 49-year-old black auto worker was repeatedly beaten and mowed down by a group of teenagers. The horrifying attack and killing was all caught on a security camera at a nearby hotel.
Our Drew Griffin with CNN's Special Investigations Unit looks into what the district attorney is calling a hate crime. But a quick word of caution -- some of the video you're about to see is tough to look at.
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DREW GRIFFIN, CNN INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT: He is just 18 years old facing a possible double life sentence for the senseless murder of a man he never now. Deryl Dedmon is thin, short, with straggly blonde hair, accused of leading a group of white teenage revelers on a mission to find and beat up anyone who is black.
(on camera): They discussed, let's go get -- let's be honest here, "let's go get a nigger," right?
ROBERT SHULER SMITH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY: That's exactly what it will show.
GRIFFIN: District Attorney Robert Shuler Smith says the evidence and witness accounts tell a story of a crime that would seem to come right out of Mississippi's troubled past. On June 26th, a group of white teens, seven in all, leaving an all-night party in the white, middle class enclave of Rankin county, Mississippi in search of a black person to, quote, "mess with."
(on camera) Out of hate?
SMITH: Out of hate. That's exactly --
GRIFFIN: No doubt in your mind, this was a racially motivated, hate-motivated, let's go kill a black guy crime?
SMITH: Absolutely. There's no doubt. They were looking for a black victim to assault and even kill in this instance.
GRIFFIN (voice-over): They drove 16 miles on a freeway heading west. At 5:00 a.m. that Sunday morning, the teens in two vehicles took the Ellis Avenue off ramp leading to a predominantly black section of Jackson. Just as they were exiting, an unsuspecting 49- year-old auto worker named James Craig Anderson was standing by his car at this local motel, and he was black.
(on camera) So literally, they found the first black person they could find and that person was in this parking lot?
SMITH: Yes. This is the first business that you get to coming off of the highway. And so that was the first person that apparently was out here and vulnerable.
GRIFFIN (voice-over): According to witness statements, at first James Craig Anderson was beaten and taunted with racial slurs. Surveillance video shows white teens going back and forth in what prosecutors say was a continuous beating of the victim. As one of the teens walks back to the cars after beating Anderson, he pumps his fist in the air and shouts "white power," according to a motel security guard. Then some of the teens got in the white SUV and drove away, leaving Anderson beaten and lying on the ground.
(on camera) Deryl Dedmon apparently wasn't through. He had two girls in his truck as he was leaving this parking lot, a big F-250 pickup truck. James Craig Anderson, the man who was beaten almost to a pulp was stumbling down this curb. That's when police say Deryl Dedmon hit the gas, jumped the curb, and ran right over his victim, smashing him.
What he didn't know was the entire episode was being caught on a surveillance camera on the corner of this hotel.
(voice-over) This is what was caught on that tape obtained exclusively by CNN. We warn you, it is disturbing, a video capturing what prosecutor Robert Shuler smith says is pure racial hatred and murder.
BALDWIN: Drew Griffin, let's pick up where the piece left off. We have the video because you got it exclusively from this motel. And walk us through what we see next.
GRIFFIN: What prosecutors say this video shows is Deryl Dedmon in that large pickup truck. He pulls out like he's going out on to the street, then slightly backs up, takes a turn and then hits the gas right into his victim, who as you can see, walking on the side of the screen there and runs him over. BALDWIN: Right there.
GRIFFIN: At that moment the victim was heading towards death. He died right there on the side of that curb. This was a deliberate attack according to the other witnesses. Remember, Brooke, two females, two teenagers in the front seat with the teenager, who told police this is what happened.
BALDWIN: Also looking in that video, it's a parking lot full of cars. You mentioned the motel security guard reportedly hearing or seeing one of the teens with his fist raised. Why didn't that security guard run over there, do anything?
GRIFFIN: These are question the investigation is looking into. And I'm breaking some other news. This group of teenagers is now being investigated for other similar type crimes in this area, and there could be more charges coming.
BALDWIN: The two teens so far charged?
GRIFFIN: That's right.
BALDWIN: Possibly more charges coming. Where are they now?
GRIFFIN: The one teen is in -- Deryl Dedmon, this man right here is being held. He's awaiting his indictment that is expected to come. The other man has been released. He was not there at the moment that Deryl Dedmon drove him over. But he was alleged to have participated in the beating. He is free on bond and awaiting the preliminary hearing.
BALDWIN: How does the defense make the case that this was not a racial hate crime?
GRIFFIN: The defense for both of these kids have not answered any of our questions, have not returned any of our phone calls. We just have one statement when one attorney who said that, in court, I don't see where the prosecution can call this a racial crime. Obviously, the testimony of the witnesses who were there all point to the fact that this started out as an attempt to go out and find a black guy to beat up and mess with. That was their words.
BALDWIN: Let us know what happens to those teens. Drew Griffin, thank you.
GRIFFIN: Just a couple of minutes here left before the closing bell. What are we, 12 minutes away? The Dow is up 103 points right now. But you ever wonder what is happening in these final moments on the trading floor? Take a look at this.
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POPPY HARLOW, CNNMONEY.COM CORRESPONDENT: You're hearing a lot of traders now yelling buy everything, buy everything. We've got five minutes left in the trading day.
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BALDWIN: There she goes. Poppy Harlow behind the scenes of the frenetic and frantic final moments of trading. Back in a minute.
BALDWIN: We're nine minutes away here from the closing bell on Wall Street. You know what, it's been a volatile past couple of weeks. This one certainly being no exception and in the final minutes of trading, do you ever wonder what really happens down there on the floor. Wonder no further. Poppy Harlow takes us behind the scenes.
KENNETH POLCARI, MANAGING DIRECTOR, ICAP EQUITIES: I don't have to go and stand in the crowd any more. I get all the information I need right here in my hand.
HARLOW: Don't you get something from being in the crowd?
POLCARI: Yes, you do. You get something from the crowd being right on the opening and you get something right on the close.
HARLOW: What is next on your list for the final minutes of trading?
POLCARI: What's next on my list is I'm going to run around to all those stocks I was in today and I'll get those final, I'll get these looks.
HARLOW: You're hearing a lot of traders now yelling "buy everything." We have five minutes left in the trading day.
DOREEN MOGAVERO, PRESIDENT AND CEO, MOGAVERO, LEE AND COMPANY: Some of the brokers are running around checking the prices. For us today, we're good.
POLCARI: What I do, that's part of my job, be the eyes and ears for the customers.
MOGAVERO: On a day like yesterday, I only had time to execute all the orders because the orders were coming in so quickly yesterday. Today not so much. Getting some now, as you can see.
HARLOW: What Kenny is doing right now is looking at imbalances in stocks that he holds. He's looking for more buy orders than sell orders than buy order. That's going to help him determine whether or not that stock will close higher or lower.
POLCARI: I'm way away with my order. This stock trading 30 cents below my limit. There's no way I'll make that sale unless the buyer should come into the stock in the next three minutes and take it up. So I'll go over there so I can just make sure that that is not going to happen.
MOGAVERO: Most of the people on the floor are very prepared for the volatility.
As that's what we do.
HARLOW: Take this day. Dow industrials ending the session up about 400 points.
MOGAVERO: That's it. We're done.
POLCARI: We sold off 100 points. When you first got here, the number was up 500.
HARLOW: We were up over 500 points and in this last half hour of trading we sold off 100 points.
POLCARI: You were here when this happened. It wasn't panicky by any sorts. But the fact is that's how seamless it is.
MOGAVERO: We're back. Another day.
BALDWIN: Poppy Harlow, I am so glad you did that. And I've got to say, I'm a little dizzy and a little stressed after you and all those guys racing around there. Let me just take a moment to collect myself. A lot of people, seriously, have been tweeting me this week as we have been watching the Dow up and down very dramatically and some very down days on the Dow and people are looking at the closing bell and thinking why are you applauding? I'm losing money on my 401(k). Why are they clapping, Poppy?
HARLOW: It's such a great question. I and the CNN Money team behind me have been up there, rang the opening bell. First of all, the sense of elation. You're so excited and sort of an honor to be up there. Not everyone gets to do that. Wow, good job getting the video, guys.
And also, you know, Brooke, a lot of these companies that are filing IPOs. If they're going public, they're going to be ringing the opening bell. They're happy about that. A lot of promotions.
BALDWIN: What about the closing bell?
HARLOW: That's what I'm talking about. You have promotions and different celebrities up there promoting their movies or their products sometimes. So they're up there and they're excited to be up there. It has nothing to do with how the market closes, even if we have the worst day in 20 years. The people ringing the closing bell are still going to be smiling and clapping because at least they're happy to be there.
BALDWIN: They're happy.
HARLOW: There's no correlation to how the market did. They're always clapping and happy to be up there. Their company is going public, what have you.
BALDWIN: I can always feel the grumbles through the people who tweet me through this two-hour show, none too pleased that these people have big old smiles on their faces. Poppy, thanks for answering the question. People wanted to know and you answered it. I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
Coming up here, Mitt Romney took a beating at last night's debate. Before that, he was heckled at the Iowa state fair. The GOP candidate hoping for a better day in New Hampshire. We're going to take you live to Manchester at the top of the hour.
But, next, Wolf Blitzer with a major development in the fight against President Obama's health care law. Stay right there.
BALDWIN: Let's take you to Washington now to Wolf Blitzer with the latest news fresh off the CNN Political Ticker. Wolf Blitzer, TGIF.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST, "THE SITUATION ROOM": TGIF, indeed. Thanks, Brooke.
Potentially, potentially significant setback for President Obama and the Democrats and the health care reform law that they worked so hard to implement. The 11th circuit court of appeals in Atlanta where you are, today ruled it unconstitutional, a two to one vote, the individual mandate, at least that part of it. Not necessarily the whole law, but the individual mandate which requires everyone, almost everyone to purchase health insurance by 2014, that is unconstitutional according to these judges.
The individual mandate exceeds Congress' enumerated commerce power and is unconstitutional. The chief judge said "This economic mandate represents a holy novel and potentially unbounded assertion of congressional authority, the ability to compel Americans to purchase expensive health product they have elected not to buy and to make them repurchase that insurance product every month for their entire lives."
Now, a separate ruling in Cincinnati not that long ago had the opposite conclusion, saying that individual mandate provision was, in fact, constitutional. Yet another court in Richmond, Virginia, is about to make a decision. The bottom line is this is going, Brooke, before the United States Supreme Court, and the nine justice s of the Supreme Court probably next year in a presidential election year, they will have to decide whether it's constitutional, not constitutional.
And you know there are four liberals, four conservatives and justice Anthony Kennedy, the swing vote in the middle, five to four vote, and we'll see which way it goes. But at stake right now is this key provision of the health care law, the health care law that the president worked so hard to get through Congress. He signed it into law. We'll see what the future is. We might not know for several months. By the way, we're going to get reaction in "THE SITUATION ROOM." Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chair of the Democratic National Committee, we'll ask her for her reaction. Already her counterpart, Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, he praised this decision. So there's going to be some excitement as a result of this. The stakes, clearly, are very significant as far as health care in the United States is concerned. Brooke?
BALDWIN: As you said, though, we still won't know for a number of months. Supreme Court has to deal with this. Wolf Blitzer, thank you. We'll check back in with you this coming hour.