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Job Market Stalls; Hannibal Gadhafi's House of Horrors; Congressman Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Presidential Nomination; Tropical Storm Lee Nears New Orleans; Cancer Study of 9/11 Victims Finds Connection With Cancer; Football Returns to Tuscaloosa; Mother in Somalia Loses Children to Starvation; Feds Raid Gibson Guitars

Aired September 2, 2011 - 16:00   ET

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: A comedian under fire because of his tirade against Mexicans during his stand-up act, and the whole thing was caught on camera. We will show it to you and get reaction.

I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.

(voice-over): Zip, zero, zilch, that's the number of jobs employers added last month. And now Wall Street reacts.

As everyone ran out, they ran in. Now 9/11 first-responders are apparently at a higher risk of cancer.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: The dust gets into the system. This is what we think happened.

BALDWIN: Dr. Sanjay Gupta breaks down this alarming new study.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The first lady may have broken the law?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

BALDWIN: The feds raid one of the America's most famous guitar makers. And the accusations here could impact hundreds of star musicians.

Thirty minutes or less might be a bit of a problem, but Domino's wants to open the very first restaurant on the moon. You will see their plan.

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BALDWIN: Welcome back, hour two here of the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Brooke Baldwin. And the job market, that's what we're going to begin with, the fact that it's essentially flat lined for the month of August and investors taking it out on Wall Street.

The bell just rang about 60 seconds ago. You can see the numbers settling, a massive down Dow day, 253 points down.

Karina Huber is at the New York Stock Exchange for us this afternoon.

And, Karina, the unemployment rate unchanged. We know it's still sitting at 9.1 percent. Government job losses canceled out the gains in the private sector. That's what gives us the goose egg. But, obviously today, that is reflected on Wall Street. KARINA HUBER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely. I mean, the jobs report was a big buzzkill on Wall Street. The stocks dropped immediately after the numbers hit and the major averages ended near session lows.

You mentioned the Dow tumbled 253 points. We saw the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq down by 2.5 percent. So this is a very weak day. What we did see what did well was gold. It glittered. That was up by more than 2 percent on the day. And treasury bonds also did well. That's because of safe haven bets.

The market right now is trading on fear. One analyst I spoke to said there's just no confidence right now and that's why we're seeing the sell-off -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: What do we glean from today's job report with regard to the overall economy?

HUBER: Well, this is, of course, is another reinforcement that the economy is really slow right now when it comes to growth. Think of the economy like a car.

We're moving forward this year, but the engine is stalling out, and now it's barely moving. We haven't come to a full stop, but we're still not moving quickly. Let's take a look at the chart. The economy is averaging 109,000 job gains a month this year. We need triple that amount to bring unemployment down.

But you want some good news, Brooke.? Look at the left side of the chart. Note the red bars. Job losses in 2009 topped 800,000. That's in one month, Brooke. So today's flat line doesn't look too bad comparatively, but that's not saying much -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: Yes, I like you trying to see the glass half full.

We're also hearing today bank stocks sold off. What's the story behind that?

HUBER: Yes, it was a bloodbath for the bank stocks. Bank of America was down by more than 8 percent, J.P. Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs down by more than 4 percent.

This all had to do with lawsuits. And Bank of America was the biggest drag on the Dow. For banks, the financial crisis isn't over, Brooke. The federal housing authorities reportedly plan to sue some big banks. And the losses are related to the mortgage-backed securities they sold to Fannie and Freddie. The banks essentially bundled and sold those mortgages. But when people couldn't pay their mortgages, the securities went sour and Fannie and Freddie lost billions of dollars in the process. So the government is trying to recoup some of those losses and is expected to accuse the banks of misrepresenting the value of those investments when they initially were sold.

By the way, Brooke, these were the same banks that received billions in federal bailout money during the crisis.

BALDWIN: Right, the banks too big to fail.

Karina Huber, thank you very much on this Friday.

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BALDWIN: I want you to consider this.

First, the heroes who rushed in to save lives on 9/11 had to fight to get health care. Then no one invited them to this Sunday's ceremony at Ground Zero -- excuse me -- next Sunday, I should say. Now they're getting word there may be a risk for them of cancer. Dr. Sanjay Gupta getting to the bottom of this one.

Also up next, a famous comedian is getting major heat for his wild tirade against Mexicans. Did he cross the line? I want you to decide for yourself. We will share the video with you and his response next.

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BALDWIN: Humor, it's a very suggestive thing.

Taken one way, it can break tension, make us all laugh. Taken the wrong way, well, consider this incident some of you are calling hate speech.

This is from a recent Katt Williams stand-up show in Phoenix, Arizona. You're going to see this front-row audience member who happens to be Latino took offense at some of the comic's routine. And here is what ensued.

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KATT WILLIAMS, COMEDIAN: You think I'm dissing Mexico and I'm defending America. Because you -- are you Mexican? Do you know where Mexico is? No this ain't Mexico. It used to be Mexico (EXPLETIVE DELETED). And now it's Phoenix (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

WILLIAMS: USA! USA! USA!

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BALDWIN: So that little exchange got the audience member up on its feet, got the crowd riled up, and it's escalated from there. Let's pick it up.

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WILLIAMS: Do you remember that white people used to say, go back to Africa? And we'd have to tell them, we don't want to?

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

WILLIAMS: So if you love Mexico (EXPLETIVE DELETED) get the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) over there! We were slaves (EXPLETIVE DELETED). You all just work like that at the landscapers.

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BALDWIN: Security guards eventually circled the man's table and he was escorted out of that Katt Williams show.

Katt Williams has now issued a statement. Here he says he's apologizing -- quote -- "My remarks were not meant to be offensive. I want to apologize if my comedy act was taken out of context. I sincerely appreciate my fans within the Mexican community and would never intentionally go out of my way to offend them."

So Katt Williams, he's sorry. But all of this leads us into a conversation about race relations in this country. And I'm not talking about black and white here. I'm talking about black and brown.

That's how my next guest phrases it.

Joining me now, Luis J. Rodriguez, a writer who focuses on Latino issues.

And, Luis, good to see you.

First, as a man of Mexican descent, were you offended watching this stand-up and Katt Williams' comments?

LUIS J. RODRIGUEZ, WRITER: Yes, I was offended, and mostly because I think there was just a lot of ignorance of our histories, our combined interests, the fact that we have combined histories.

And I think that's the problem, is that people don't really know how many -- much more we have together as a people, black and brown, and even white, than we do against us, because to me, the real issues is what unites us, losing our homes, our jobs. The economy doesn't discriminate as far as that goes. Black, brown, white, we're all suffering. And yet here we are talking against each other when we're all in the same boat.

BALDWIN: What about the heckler? You see him sitting at the roundtable. I mean, he paid front-row seats to go to this Katt Williams show, a comic. If you have seen other acts, the guy is known for controversy.

But what do you make of the heckler's reaction? And there's a lot you could glean from that. And then also the reaction from the rest of the audience. I mean, I watched the full eight minutes at my desk earlier. They're shouting, they're chanting USA, some booing at points, some hand gesticulations we won't go into. I mean, it gets ugly.

RODRIGUEZ: Yes, it looked really bad to me.

I think that this is what happens when you feel the animosity that doesn't really need to be there. I would like to extend a dialogue with Katt Williams. I really don't want to just finger him and say he's no good, he's rotten.

He apologized. This is great. But we need to really talk about this and we need to talk about it from what we need to do, because as American people, I think we're going after each other. I love this country, but I'm also very critical about what's happening in this country. There are people who...

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BALDWIN: Forgive me. But -- so, you want to talk to Katt Williams, but what about the heckler? What would you say to the heckler?

RODRIGUEZ: Well, I have been to a lot of comedy shows. There are some pretty strange things that goes on. There are hecklers everywhere.

For the most part, as I said in my column, most comedians just deal with it the way they should, with humor. They just go back at them. They know how to handle it. I think for some reason, Mr. Williams lost it. And he lost it by going in an area he shouldn't have gone, which became a tirade against Mexicans and a pro-USA tirade, which to me really doesn't reflect what this country is all about.

BALDWIN: So, as I started this out by saying humor is very subjective, where is the line now, Luis? Where is the line between humor and hate speech? Do we even know where the line exists these days?

RODRIGUEZ: Well, for example, if there's a heckler, I think you ought to address that person. If he happens to be of Mexican descent, that's almost immaterial. If it was an African-American, you wouldn't just attack every African-American because one African-American heckles you. You know what I'm saying.

In other words, a comedian has to address these issues the way he knows how, with his talents, his gifts, his humor. I think when it becomes a big tirade against the whole Mexican culture and that, you know, we didn't fight for this country, that -- which is not true. And I say we because can descent, but I also am a U.S. citizen.

I live in this country. And, again, I fight for this country. But my idea of fighting for this country, with ideas, with creativity, organization, is that we do more to unite us than divide us. We have a lot more to do than as a people than to sit here and start tearing us apart based on race, any ethnicity, sexual orientation or religion. BALDWIN: Well, hopefully as a result of this clip, which is very much so on the Internet now, it is getting all of us talking, opening this dialogue.

Luis J. Rodriguez , thank you. Thank you very much.

RODRIGUEZ: My pleasure.

BALDWIN: If you are traveling, you need to be alert here. The government is issuing this new warning as the 10th anniversary of 9/11 is inching closer. That is coming up.

Also this --

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DAN RIVERS, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A picture is emerging of horrendous abuse at Hannibal Gadhafi's houses. I've been contacted by another nanny who describes Aline Gadhafi as psychologically sick and a sadist. And this room, it seemed to bear out her testimony.

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BALDWIN: CNN's Dan Rivers taking us inside this home, one of Moammar Gadhafi's sons. What he finds behind that door, it's hell, and you're going to see it next.

Plus, CNN tracks down the nanny who says that Gadhafis poured boiling hot water on her, her message, and what the doctors are revealing about her future.

Stay right there.

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BALDWIN: All Americans traveling overseas need to be on alert. That is the warning we're getting from the Homeland Security Department today.

The Obama administration insists there' is no specific threat of a terror attack as we get closer to a decade now after 9/11. The State Department is issuing a worldwide travel alert, warning that al Qaeda might try to attack U.S. interests abroad.

The horrors that occurred in Moammar Gadhafi's Libya, one that stands out is what happened to a nanny employed by Gadhafi's son Hannibal. When she couldn't top stop a child from crying, Moammar Gadhafi's daughter-in-law burned her with boiling water. She is now recovering.

Here is an update from Dan Rivers.

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RIVERS (voice-over): Shweyga is slowly regaining her dignity, now being cared for in Tripoli's burns hospital. She is weak but able to gesture a greeting to those who've helped her and express her profound gratitude.

SHWEYGA MULLAH, HANNIBAL GADHAFI'S NANNY (through translator): I want to say thank you very much, because all the people who have helped me. Thank you very, very much.

RIVERS: She's overcome with emotion, but these are tears of relief, not pain. Shweyga is Christian, and her faith has been crucial in coming to terms with what's happened.

MULLAH: Thank you very much. I want God to heal me and return me back to my family.

RIVERS: The National Transitional Council's new health minister also visited her and summed up the horror of her ordeal.

DR. NAJI BARAKAT, LIBYAN HEALTH MINISTER: I think it's a crime against humanity. We'll ask the minister of justice to send someone who can document -- as well as forensic evidence -- to document it, and then we'll document everything. And then after that, she has -- whatever she wants -- stay in Libya. We will be happy to treat her. If she wants to go, that would be great as well.

RIVERS (on camera): So this is Hannibal Gadhafi's office.

(voice-over): This man who worked with Shwayge is too scared to reveal his identity, but showed me another of Hannibal Gadhafi's properties where he says more horrendous abuse was meted out to staff by Hannibal's wife, Aline.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Shweyga is not the only one. There's a Sudanese man who Aline burned twice. She boiled water and she burned him from here to down.

RIVERS: He says the foreign staff were targeted the most.

(on camera): A picture is emerging of horrendous abuse at Hannibal Gadhafi's houses. I've been contacted by another nanny who describes Aline Gadhafi as psychologically sick and a sadist. And this room would seem to bear out her testimony.

What kind of family has their own private jail cell at one of their properties?

(voice-over): Shweyga is now facing months of recuperation and surgery. CNN is working with a number of organizations to ensure she gets the best care available, and that she can get home to Ethiopia after her nightmare at the hands of the Gadhafi family.

Dan Rivers, CNN, Tripoli.

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BALDWIN: Dan, thank you for the update there. Back home, a young football player attacks a referee, then this massive brawl erupts. Now several are being slapped with felonies, including some of the coaches. You're going to see that video ahead.

Plus, Republican Paul Ryan reveals to CNN what's really behind his decision against a White House run. Gloria Borger spoke to him. That is next.

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BALDWIN: Have you seen what happened to the ref, the one at the football game in Sarasota? Take a look at the video for yourself. You're going to see him right there.

It's clearly some sort of disagreement that's going on. This is right before he is assaulted.

By the way, this is youth football. This is not high school, this is not Pop Warner.

So here you go, folks. Here come the Sarasota Gators.

Number 6 flies in. That's a heck of a tackle down. The trouble is, you're not supposed to do that to the ref.

Let's watch it again. We see the guy in green -- keep your eyes there -- appears to throw a punch. The ref, you see him trying to get away. But here's 6 again. Here you go, taking him down.

Now, according to the sheriff's office, the ref suffered a fractured shoulder. And just this afternoon, four alleged participants in this all were charged with felony counts of battery on a sports referee. That carries a possible maximum sentence of up to four years in prison, and those charged include an unnamed minor age 14. The sheriff says everyone charged has been remorseful with the exception of an assistant coach, Dexter Austin (ph).

Time now for your "CNN Equals Politics" update this Friday.

Let's go to CNN's chief political correspondent, Gloria Borger.

Gloria, long time no see. Good to have you back on.

GLORIA BORGER, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST: Thank you.

BALDWIN: So, with this jobs report out today, not so great.

BORGER: No, not so great. And predictably, Republican presidential candidates have been pointing it out.

Look, they had a lot to work with, Brooke. After all, zero is zero. So you've heard Mitt Romney talk about it today, Jon Huntsman talk about it.

What's going to be interesting to me is to see the Republican plans for job growth. Jon Huntsman gave his plan for job growth earlier this week, which was received very well by "The Wall Street Journal," and Mitt Romney is going to give his plan on Tuesday. And then, of course, Brooke, we're going to hear from the president himself on Thursday. So we'll see where they disagree then.

BALDWIN: You also, this week, I understand, Gloria, you sat down with someone who decided not to seek the Republican presidential nomination. What did he say?

BORGER: Yes. There is one more, and that's House Republican Paul Ryan.

He's the chairman of the House Budget Committee, and only 41 years old, Brooke. Lots of Republican elders were rushing to him saying, you need to run for president. But I caught up with him in Janesville, Wisconsin. Listen to what he said to me about his decision.

BALDWIN: OK.

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REP. PAUL RYAN (R), WISCONSIN: A lot of people try to convince me that I should jump in this race. As you can tell, the race has not formed fully yet.

My answer really hasn't changed. If I really wanted to run for president, I would have done it months ago.

And I think in any job in politics, you can have balance with your family, but I'm not so sure you can do that with this particular job. And so I just couldn't get over that. And when other people want you to run for president more badly than you yourself do, I think that kind of says something.

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BORGER: Brooke, as you know, Paul Ryan's budget has become iconic to the Democrats. They love to rail against it because, of course, it proposes some very serious changes in Medicare, something they're going to use on the campaign trail.

So he would have been a lightning rod, but he's a member of that younger generation of Republicans, lots of whom are like Marco Rubio, people are talking about. And there seems to be a generation gap in the Republican Party. You have the younger guys who say, you know what? We're not ready to run. And then you have the people running, some of whom, like Mitt Romney, have run before.

BALDWIN: But maybe some of these younger guys are saying not running yet. Am I right?

BORGER: Not running yet. And when I asked him, Brooke, about whether he might consider the number two slot, he wasn't quite so Shermanesque. So I bet you could see his name being touted as a vice presidential candidate somewhere down the road. And possibly, very possibly in this cycle. BALDWIN: Interesting.

BORGER: Very.

Gloria Borger, chief political analyst.

BORGER: Thanks.

BALDWIN: Thank you very much.

BORGER: Thanks, Brooke.

BALDWIN: And still ahead, New Orleans right now bracing for a big storm that could reach hurricane intensity.

Also, an alarming new study suggesting 9/11 first responders are at a higher risk of cancer. Dr. Sanjay Gupta walks us through this.

Plus, four months after a deadly tornado ripped through Alabama, the state is about to get a huge emotional boost.

And what happen a treat for me. Joining me in studio, CNN's David McKenzie. He is here from Africa, where he's based in Nairobi. He's been covering the hunger crisis that is killing thousands, and he has a heartbreaking story he's willing to share with us about one mother's shocking discovery as she covered her baby in her arms.

Stay here.

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BALDWIN: A tropical storm is brewing near New Orleans, a cancer study of the 9/11 victims, football returns to a state struck by tragedy, and a heartbreaking story of a mother and her final moments with her child. It's time to play Reporter Roulette here.

I have Ed Lavandera on the phone now from New Orleans. And Ed, I know we were hearing from Mayor Landrieu just a short time ago sort of rattling off all the ways the city is prepared when and if they get quite a bit of rain.

ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They're trying to spread the word quickly here, not just here in the city of New Orleans, but along the coastline of Mississippi and Louisiana as well where heavy rains are expected to last throughout most of the weekend. And that's really what they're, I think, most concerned about at this point, would be the flooding concerns throughout the region in New Orleans, possibly expecting as much as 20 inches along the coast. We're talking about 12 inches. This is rain that will be quickly falling.

So they're really urging people to beware, not get out on the streets if they don't have to this weekend. And I just ducked into a grocery store here in New Orleans to get a few supplies for the weekend, and I could see a lot of people doing just that, Brooke.

BALDWIN: I know you're just barely getting your feet on the ground there, but what are people saying? Are they frightened or concerned or do they feel prepared?

LAVANDERA: I think for the most part they're taking everything in stride. I think they're anxious to see what this storm will bring. Obviously when you talk about New Orleans and the history here, people are concerned about levees about what the flood waters could do. The mayor here in New Orleans saying that the pumping stations and all the backup generators that control those pumping stations are all functional. Those are being monitored to make sure the water is being moved out as quickly as can be. So they're confident with the way those things stand right now. And I think that probably puts a lot of people at ease.

BALDWIN: Wonderful. I know they're still waiting to see exactly where that storm Lee actually hits. Ed Lavandera, thank you very much in New Orleans.

LAVANDERA: You got it.

BALDWIN: Next in Reporter Roulette, it could be the evidence firefighters who rushed to ground zero are looking for. A new study links a dust at ground zero to an increased risk of cancer. Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta explains. Sanjay?

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Brooke, I think what's really the issue here is there a connection between the dust and cancer? You know, look, there's been a lot of studies showing the connection between dust and a whole lot of other medical malady, primarily respiratory ones, but the cancer connection has always been a bit controversial. There's been a back and forth, and it's been unsettled. This paper is going to be a very well regarded one, a large study, following these fire department workers over 10 years.

I talked to Dr. David Prezant, the lead author of the study in advance of the embargo being lifted on the study. Listen carefully to what he said.

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DR. DAVID PREZANT, CANCER STUDY LEAD AUTHOR: As we start seeing cancers, we want to answer the question, is cancer increased? I have to tell you my initial bias was for the first 10, 15 years, we would not see an increase. That's one reason why I think our findings are so strong, because I actually thought we would find the opposite.

GUPTA: You're surprise?

PREZANT: Very much so. Where we can say cancer is increased in other responders or area residents, we have no idea. This is a study about firefighters. Their exposure is so unique, 85 percent of the exposed were present in the first 48 hours of collapse when the exposure was massive. That is a very unique exposure.

GUPTA: For firefighters watching, they have the lingering question -- why did I get this cancer and was it related to the dust? And you would say what?

PREZANT: For most instances, it was World Trade Center related.

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GUPTA: So Brooke, a very powerful statement there. Most of these cancers, he's saying, World Trade Center related. That's a pretty remarkable thing.

A couple of caveats -- even though it's been ten year, that's still a short time in the world of science. We would like to see what happens at 15 years, 20 years, 30 years.

And also, he was very careful to say this was a paper about fire department workers who were also first responders, cannot generalize about lower Manhattan citizens or even other first responders. The dust gets into the system. This is what we think happens. It causes the respiratory problems that have been studied, but it can also act like san sandpaper in those bronchials and cause inflammation that Dr. Brissaunt they believe could be the genesis of a lot of these cancers.

It's a contentious issue. Even in July of this year, there was found to be no connection between dust and cancer. This paper may change that debate, Brooke. Stay tuned. Back to you.

BALDWIN: We will, Sanjay. Thank you very much. By the way, you can see Sanjay's full investigation of the health fallout from the 9/11, including never before seen footage, in his documentary. We're calling it "Terror in the Dust" Wednesday night 11:00 eastern right here on CNN.

Next on Reporter Roulette, football returns to a state perhaps needing it the most. Reynolds Wolf live for us in Tuscaloosa on the campus of the University of Alabama. Reynolds, I know it's been four months. We all remember those images of the aftermath of the tornado. We kind of need a little football to get things moving in.

REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Absolutely. Football coming back to Tuscaloosa is like swallows return in returning to San Capistrano.

(LAUGHTER)

It's the way it's supposed to be. It's a beautiful thing.

And here right behind by tomorrow at this time we're going to have roughly 100,000 people here to cheer the Crimson Tide. There's going to be a handful of people cheering for Kent State, also, but overwhelmingly it's going to be a Crimson event. Keep in mind, though, this is going to be the first time you have many people back on campus since last season. As they make their way down the boulevard towards campus, they're going to see some areas of damage they didn't see last year. So it's certainly going to be a reminder of what happened back on April 27 of 2011 this year.

But I tell you, the great thing about it is they will get several hours to take in what happened and it's certainly part of the healing process. Brooke? BALDWIN: Reynolds, we know you're an auburn man. We appreciate you taking one for the team and covering this story out of Tuscaloosa for us, thank you. Wishing them the best, of course.

Finally on Reporter Roulette, the heartbreaking humanitarian crisis we've been covering for some time here on CNN in Somalia. Millions of people are facing starvation, and the U.N. agency for refugees says we haven't seen the worst of it yet. David McKenzie has just returned from there, and David, I know you're based in Nairobi. It's nice to have you here in person.

We've aired so many of your images. That's just really what struck me from weeks and weeks ago when you were first reporting out of Kenya and Somalia. As a journalist, what one image, one person you met has just really stayed with you and perhaps is the most haunting.

DAVID MCKENZIE: Well, Brooke, it's great to be here. Yes, we were talking some weeks ago when I was the north of Kenya. I was in Somalia, Mogadishu, in fact. I was there on the story, just going for a day, seeing the situation. A lot of people have forgotten that this is going on in the horn of Africa and in east Africa, millions facing starvation.

We're in Mogadishu. Thousands have streamed into the capital. I met this woman who was nine months pregnant, spent two weeks walking, walking for 15 days, about to give birth from the bush into Mogadishu just because she heard rumors that she might get some help.

We met this woman in her tiny little space where she was living. And she had a child that she was holding. And we thought, you know, that's great, she has a child. This is a positive story. She said last night, I had twins and the one child died last night. And the rest was lost in translation. We were filming this child and talking to this woman, and then we found out that the child she was holding was dead and it had died about an hour before we went there.

And this is what's going on in Somalia, these awful stories of human suffering. And, you know, the numbers are sometimes hard to grasp Brooke, but the situation like this woman Sara and her young child is what's going on.

BALDWIN: We have sound from this young mother. Let's listen.

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MCKENZIE: "I walked for 15 days to escape drought and fighting," says Sara. She was nine months pregnant with twins that escaped bandits as they walked. The twins were born last night, she says. One died before dawn. The other died just before we met her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: That's horrible.

So you're out there. This is your -- this is what you're covering. It feels like we're so far away, but it's so important to keep this story in the news. Just, as you're out there covering it, what's your final thought? I mean, help us hit this home for Americans.

MCKENZIE: Well, I think the final thought is that you need to care about these people, the situation. You know, 11 million people facing starvation in the horn of Africa alone.

And also this is a window of opportunity, Brooke. This is a situation Al Shabaab, the Al Qaeda linked group, has fled from Mogadishu in Somalia. There is a bit of a security situation. People are starting to get the aid in there, but there's a massive shortfall in terms of the amount of money that needs to go towards the World Food Program, the refugee agency. Now, people need to help, and there's ways people can help. There's CNN.com/impact. It is a great way to go to see how you can help. And that money makes a difference.

BALDWIN: Thank you and your crew for sharing the story so we can shed the light, David McKenzie. Thank you very much.

MCKENZIE: Thanks, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Now this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The first lady may have broken the law?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Huh. The feds raid one of America's most famous guitar makers. And the accusations here could impact stars like Paul McCartney, B.B. King. Plus, we'll tell you why the first lady is being mentioned. CNN is investigating this next.

And because it is Friday, we are going to take you behind the scenes, answer some of your questions in what we're calling "The Week Wind Down."

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BALDWIN: Guy, this is Rog. You've been here for how many years?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's been 31.

BALDWIN: He is one of the very few CNN originals. Why have you stayed so long?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love this. I love TV. TV is my life.

BALDWIN: It is your life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I get paid to watch TV. That's a great thing.

BALDWIN: We love having you. It's such a treat.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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BALDWIN: A Department of Justice investigation into Gibson guitars is trending this hour and it could have a major impact on the music we love.

Federal agents say the fret boards on the necks of the guitars that B.B. King, many, many others love could be made out of rare wood that was illegally imported. David Mattingly investigates.

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DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: He makes guitars that make America sound cool. But Gibson's CEO Henry Juszkiewicz is being ordered to change his tune.

Sounds almost ironic playing the blues right now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got the blues.

MATTINGLY: That's because in late August, armed federal agents raided his Tennessee factories for the second time in two years, alleging the illegal importation of rare protected wood in this case, ebony and rosewood from India.

An affidavit filed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service alleges Gibson falsely labeled the wood shipment to make it sound legal and suspiciously omitted the company's name as the recipient.

But so far, no charges have been filed.

It almost sounds like this company was engaged in smuggling these raw materials into the country.

HENRY JUSZKIEWICZ, CEO, GIBSON: Well, we were not engaged in smuggling. We have been buying finger board stock on a regular basis from India for 17 years.

MATTINGLY: On the neck of a guitar the tropical hardwood is prized for its look and durability. But it's subject to a law called the Lacey Act aimed to fighting black market trade of protected animal parts and plants and anything made from them.

But the material that came in the box from India looks just like this?

JUSZKIEWICZ: Looks very similar.

MATTINGLY: Juszkiewicz says the finger boards Gibson imported from India were confiscated as illegal wood by the federal government.

JUSZKIEWICZ: The law says that if a guitar or an instrument of any kind crosses a border, you have to know the specie of wood that every component is made of and where it came from.

MATTINGLY: If this is true, could hundreds of international stars like Paul McCartney and BB King risk seeing their Gibsons confiscated at the border?

JUSZKIEWICZ: Michelle Obama gave a Gibson guitar to the wife of the president -- or prime minister of France just a year ago.

MATTINGLY: The first lady may have broken the law?

JUSZKIEWICZ: Yes.

MATTINGLY: The Lacy Act does give federal agents broad authority to pursue smugglers. But if you own a Gibson, don't worry. When we asked the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for clarification, it released this brief statement.

"We target corporations and individuals who are removing protected species from the wild and making a profit by trafficking in them."

And right now, in spite of Juszkiewicz's strong claim of innocence, Gibson is a target.

JUSZKIEWICZ: Nightmare. It's a nightmare.

MATTINGLY: It took almost a week before Gibson got back into full operation. But the damage had already been done. Just the shutdown of that one day with the materials that were taken cost the company over a million dollars.

And now, the maker of the guitars that have commanded the spotlight for over a hundred years has no choice but to play on and wait for its day in court.

David Mattingly, CNN, Nashville.

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BALDWIN: Pretty stunning moment in court. A teenager accused of shooting at a police officer stands up and urinates in a trash can. Wait until you see how the judge reacts to that one. We're on the case, straight ahead.

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BALDWIN: Let's get a quick check, shall we, with Wolf Blitzer and see what he and his show team were working out for "THE SITUATION ROOM."

Mr. Blitzer, what do you have going on?

WOLF BLITZER, HOST, CNN'S "THE SITUATION ROOM": We have a lot coming up, including the latest on jobs, jobs, jobs. Unfortunately, zero jobs created in August, as you well know, Brooke. We're going in depth and take a closer look at what's going on. What can the president do to really start turning the economy around, creating some jobs? What should he say in that big speech Thursday night before a joint session of Congress? Robert Reich, the former Clinton labor secretary will be here.

Steve Moore, the editorial writer for "The Wall Street Journal." They have very different views on what should happen next. We're going to go in depth with them.

Also, Joe Walsh, the Republican congressman from Illinois, he's caused quite a bit of a stir over the past 24 hours, Brooke, as you know, because he says he's not even going to show up when the president of the United States delivers that message before the joint session of Congress.

He's going to stay in his district of Illinois. He says it's a waste of time for him to be there. He said he would simply be a prop so he's not even going to show up. We're going to talk to him about what's going on.

And also going to press him on why he called the president idiotic the other day. Is that the way to talk to the president of the United States? We've got a lot coming up, Brooke, as you can see, right here in "THE SITUATION ROOM." That and a lot more.

BALDWIN: That's a far cry from what we say, what, the state of the union. All the Republicans and Democrats made a big to do about sitting next to one another.

BLITZER: I don't think they're going to be sitting together this time.

BALDWIN: I don't think so either. Wolf Blitzer, thank you very much. We'll see you in 7 minutes.

Meantime, for me, we're going to talk about this bizarre mystery that's unraveling today. A woman found hanging naked and bound off the balcony of a CEO's mansion, this multimillionaire's mansion.

Days later, a young boy dies after an accident at the same mansion. Now investigators are revealing how that woman died and what they found at the scene. Holly Hughes, she's on the case for us today. She's next.

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BALDWIN: It's this mystery that's really riveted crime aficionados for weeks. Was a tycoon's girlfriend murdered at his California mansion or did she tie up her own feet and her own hands, take off her own clothes and jump off the balcony.

Forensic and law enforcement experts answered that question today. Holly Hughes is in for Sunny. She's on the case. Before we get to what they ultimately decided, let's go back because it's important to establish this tycoon had a son, 6 years of age. He takes a fall down some stairs. Fill in the blanks, what happens next? HOLLY HUGHES, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Absolutely. The little boy, while Rebecca Zahau who is the victim of the hanging --

BALDWIN: And the girlfriend of the multimillionaire.

HUGHES: Correct and she's in the shower. Now there are two other teenage children present at the house, but apparently, there's an accident that occurs on the stairs. What we're hearing today, the little boy might have been playing a game called flanking, which is where you sort of propel yourself into these horizontal positions.

And they suspect what he did was went down that balcony head first, fell off and hit his head. He sustains horrible injuries. He's hospitalized. They're not sure whether he's going to make it or not. Before that little boy dies -- he does eventually and very sadly died, but before that happened is when Rebecca Zahau is found hanging. So she doesn't even stick around to see if the little boy makes it, which is very suspicious.

BALDWIN: So now what's being revealed today from investigators, Holly Hughes, is they're ruling this as a suicide.

HUGHES: They are and to me, it's what we call, it doesn't pass the smell test. There are several things at play here. Now they claim they found a suicide note, but her family members have looked at it and said number one, it's ambiguous and number two, it's not her handwriting.

Let's think about how the body was found. The body was found hanging outside off the balcony outside. So she is in public. She is stripped naked, her hands and her feet are bound with electrical cords.

Now first of all, women don't kill themselves this way. They'll take pills, they'll go to sleep. You know, women don't like to make a mess. They want it to be nice and pristine for whoever has to clean up after them.

BALDWIN: What other pieces of evidence were found at the scene to make investigators deduce that this was suicide.

HUGHES: What they are saying is they're basing it on that note and they're saying nobody else was really in the house at the time, but that's not completely accurate statement.

We have heard reports from other sources that there were some folks in the house. But let's point out for the viewers, it was not the millionaire, nor his estranged wife. They were actually at the hospital with the little boy, hoping he would make it at that point.

BALDWIN: OK, case number two, a rough day, a bit of a rough day in this Texas room. Let's explain what happened here. You have a 17- year-old on trial for shooting at juvenile detention officer. He gets scolded by the judge for mumbling in court. He tried to fire his attorney and when it came time for a lunch break, watch this?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know how you were raised, but peeing in a trash can in a state district courtroom is inappropriate behavior. This is the second conversation we had. There won't be a third.

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BALDWIN: That's the first time I've seen that piece of video, Holly Hughes.

So, my goodness, that's just my reaction. Apparently, the teenager's lawyer asked for a mental competency test right before he changed his plea to guilty. But first in a courtroom, have you ever seen that?

HUGHES: OK, actually I've seen some things pretty close where, you know, a gentleman was unhappy with the way things were going so just decided he was going to expose himself and go on from there. So I actually have seen things like that, Brooke. But you know, this is the ultimate contempt of court. I mean, really, I just don't like what you're saying so I'm just going to pee in your house. That's basically what he did and quite frankly, I'm surprised the judge was so polite about it. I mean, he could have held him in contempt and fined him. But this judge said two strikes, I'm not going for a third.

BALDWIN: OK, Holly Hughes, thank you.

That's it for me. Wolf Blitzer, to you. "THE SITUATION ROOM " starts now.