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Nancy Grace
Detroit Man Claims Carjackers Kidnapped 2-Year-Old Daughter
Aired December 06, 2011 - 20:00 ET
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, live, Michigan. 9:25 AM, Daddy driving along a busy thoroughfare with his 2-year-old little girl, Bianca, when suddenly, broad daylight, the Mercury four-door carjacked by two unknown assailants armed. Daddy frantically calls 911. Within 10 minutes, cops zero in on the car. It`s less than a mile away, the car in mint condition, the baby gone.
Bombshell tonight. As the search for the little girl kicks into high gear, tonight we reveal, in the last hours, did Daddy fail a polygraph? His defense lawyer claims the poly is the problem, that it was improperly administered. Tonight, where is 2-year-old Bianca?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A heartbreaking mystery.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe my daughter is alive.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Volunteers have been out in full force searching various parts of the city, looking for the little girl.
D`ANDRE LANE, FATHER: My concern is that our daughter comes home safely to us.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) wail (ph) and just lost right now.
LANE: I`m telling the truth. That`s all I want, is my baby home safe.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That someone has her and they`re just -- they`re scared.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lane says it was just he and Bianca inside his car when he says he was carjacked. But cops are not buying the story. What happened to Bianca? Police found the car, and Bianca hasn`t been seen since.
LANE: I was enjoying my time with her, me and her. For something like this to happen is a true tragedy. And I just wish that they would just bring baby home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sources say D`Andre failed a polygraph test and that a family member came forward saying D`Andre made up the whole story.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please, please to just bring Bianca home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But so far, no luck.
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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Bombshell tonight, live, Michigan. 9:45 AM, Daddy`s driving along a busy thoroughfare with his 2-year-old little girl, when suddenly out of nowhere, the Mercury four-door carjacked by two unknown armed assailants broad daylight. 9:45 AM, Daddy frantically calls 911. In 10 minutes, cops zero in on Daddy`s car less than a mile away, the car in mint condition, the baby gone.
Tonight, we reveal, in the last hours did Daddy fail a polygraph? We are live and taking your calls. Where is 2-year-old baby Bianca? What could be safer than driving along a busy thoroughfare with your dad behind the wheel? This little girl now missing.
We are taking your calls. But first straight out to Jon Hewett, WWJ. Jon, what can you tell me? What do you know at this hour?
JON HEWETT, WWJ NEWSRADIO 950 (via telephone): Nancy, good evening. The latest information about four hours ago was a press conference from the father, D`Andre Lane, with his attorney, Terry Johnson, at his side. This has been going on since Friday morning, when you mentioned the initial disappearance occurred.
And there`s been a lot of follow (ph). It`s been a non-stop story since then in this market. But Johnson prefaced -- his attorney, Johnson, said that D`Andre Lane would not talk about the day Bianca disappeared. That was his open on this press conference today. But D`Andre Lane did talk extensively. He outlined that he thought police were looking at him as suspect number one. He said he`s the person who described -- he described as Bianca`s kidnappers were the villains...
GRACE: Right.
HEWETT: ... not himself, and he feels he is being targeted for, in part, his past criminal record.
GRACE: With us, Jon Hewett from WWJ. But everyone, I`m hearing in my ear the father and the lawyer coming on with us live. We`ll be taking your calls in just a few moments. We`re getting their satellite back up.
To Alexis Weed. Let`s back it up a minute. I want to go over the timeline that day when Bianca was taken out of the car. Tell me what happened, Alexis.
ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, Nancy, this is just this past Friday. At about 9:45 in the morning, the father calls police and says, I`ve been a subject of a carjacking. There were two men that said there was something wrong with my taillight on my car. He says he gets out of the car, the father, Bianca`s father and that`s when he says that these two men took the car away while Bianca`s in the back seat, strapped in her carseat.
GRACE: Take a look at little Bianca. There is a nearly $30,000 reward. The reward is mounting. This 2-year-old child allegedly carjacked out of the Mercury four-door, broad daylight, busy thoroughfare. Take a look at the baby girl asleep. As the minutes tick by, crucial time passing in the search for baby Bianca.
We are taking your calls. I want to go now to Alisa Zee, news director. Alisa, what more can you tell us about the case? The timeline to me -- I mean, a busy thoroughfare, 9:45 AM. Give me the description of the little girl, Alisa.
ALISA ZEE, DETROIT METRO NETWORKS (via telephone): Good evening, Nancy. Thank you so much. As you can see, this is everybody`s nightmare. Little Bianca Jones is 2 foot, 5 inches, about 25 pounds. She`s a light- skinned African-American little girl. And she was last seen wearing a purple jacket with gold trim, pink shirt, pink little tights. You can see her smile, those bright eyes. And the search does continue. The community is gathered together day in and day out searching the area for little Bianca.
GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. Joining us tonight out of D.C., Eleanor Odom, senior lawyer with the National DAs Association, death penalty- qualified, Raymond Giudice, defense attorney, Atlanta, Pam Hayes, renowned defense attorney joining us tonight out of New York.
First of all, Eleanor, did you pick up on what Daddy had to say, or his lawyer said for him? They start a presser, where you normally see the parents begging for help, but Daddy`s lawyer kicks it off by saying he`s not talking about the day Bianca goes missing. All right, I don`t like that, Eleanor!
ELEANOR ODOM, NATIONAL DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSN.: No, because, Nancy, if you have nothing to hide, why aren`t you telling the cops everything? Why aren`t you out there telling the public what`s going on and what you know? So that looks a little suspicious right from the get-go. You want to hear the facts of that case and get a detailed timeline of what was happening with that father and that daughter right before she went missing.
GRACE: Do we have the composite that Daddy created? Dana, let`s see the composite. You know, I was taking a look at this composite, and it looks incredibly like the Susan Smith composite. It looks almost identical. Now, there`s the alleged assailant in this case. Dana, let`s pull up the Susan Smith composite. OK, here we go.
Raymond, once again, it`s the unknown black male wearing the toboggan hat, wearing the baseball cap. Here we go!
RAYMOND GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Although, you know, that does fit a profile of a substantial proportion of criminals. And what I would say to you is this. The lawyer is in a difficult position now that the camel is out of the tent in that the media has word of the, quote, unquote, "failed polygraph" response.
Now, I agree with Eleanor, if you`re not going to be able to answer the questions that you know the media is going to ask, the hard questions they should ask, don`t subject yourself to that questioning. It`s only making matters worse. Shut up.
GRACE: Put Giudice up! OK, Raymond, number one, it`s not that the camel is out of the tent.
GIUDICE: Oh, the camel`s nose is in the tent, right.
GRACE: It`s that the horse is out of the barn.
GIUDICE: The horse is out of the barn. I remember all those things.
GRACE: It`s the camel`s nose is in the tent.
GIUDICE: That`s right. Well...
GRACE: ... and his tail will surely follow.
GIUDICE: ... you (INAUDIBLE) on that, Nancy.
GRACE: Whatever. Pam Hayes, look, Pam, before you were a defense attorney in multiple jurisdictions, I know for a fact you were a felony prosecutor in inner-city Atlanta, in the same office where I went right after you. I followed in your footsteps, Pam Hayes. Come on! A carjack? The car`s found less than a mile away. And what is it? What -- what is it, Clark, a `74 what?
CLARK GOLDBAND, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: It`s a Mercury Marquis.
GRACE: A Mercury Marquis...
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GRACE: Sorry -- 2004 Mercury Marquis, four-door. Now, you really think -- you know, Pam, hold on, Pam. I want you to hear this.
With me right now is D`Andre Lane. This is Bianca`s father. With him, Terry L. Johnson, both joining us out of Michigan. He is the attorney.
Mr. Lane, thank you for being with us.
TERRY L. JOHNSON, LANE`S ATTORNEY: Thank you for having us, Nancy.
GRACE: Mr. Lane, can you give me a description of the assailants, number one? That would be useful in trying to track Bianca down.
JOHNSON: You know, Nancy, again, we`ve given a description of the assailants, and the police have put that out.
GRACE: OK. Great. Can you give me the description tonight so the viewers can hear it, Mr. Lane?
JOHNSON: Well, again, Nancy, I`m not exactly sure -- don`t you have a composite that you can pull? Wouldn`t that be better?
GRACE: I have a black-and-white composite, Mr. Johnson. If he could describe -- he said there`s two unknown armed assailants. I have a composite of one of them. It`s a black-and-white charcoal sketch. I don`t know what color their outfits were. I don`t know how tall they are. I don`t know what the other one even looks like.
All right, I`m going to try again, Mr. Lane. What did the assailants look like?
JOHNSON: Nancy, just -- you know, we don`t want to start this off on a hostile terms. What we`re attempting to do...
GRACE: OK.
JOHNSON: ... is do everything we can to get Bianca back. And we`ve given that information to the police and again, we`re...
GRACE: All right. So you can`t tell me...
JOHNSON: ... asking that the police disseminate...
GRACE: ... what the assailants looked like.
JOHNSON: ... that information.
GRACE: OK, fine.
JOHNSON: I think that should be disseminated through the police.
GRACE: What can Mr. Lane talk about? OK, great. What can Mr. Lane talk about tonight?
JOHNSON: You know, we can talk about pretty much anything other than the events that happened on December 2nd, the unfortunate event.
GRACE: OK, great.
JOHNSON: He`s given a statement...
GRACE: Let`s start there, then.
JOHNSON: ... to the police.
GRACE: Mr. Lane, let`s back it up and go to a moment before the carjack. Tell me about the 2-year-old little girl, Bianca.
LANE: My daughter is a beautiful little girl. She has a bright personality. She`s the type of person that lights up a room when she walks in it. She is -- she`s very intelligent. She`s -- she`s just a wonderful little girl to be around. I mean, all my children are wonderful. I love all my children dearly. And she is just -- she is one of those lights in my life.
GRACE: How many children do you have, Mr. Lane?
LANE: I have seven.
GRACE: Do they all have the same mother?
LANE: No, they do not.
GRACE: Where were you going the morning the car was carjacked?
LANE: I was on my way to her mother`s house at the moment the car was carjacked.
GRACE: I`m sorry, I couldn`t hear you. Repeat?
LANE: I was on my way to her mother`s house moments before the car was carjacked.
GRACE: Now, I read something that you were on your way to see about your financial aid for your student tuition. Is that incorrect?
LANE: That is incorrect. That happened prior to all of this taking place. I`ve fully cooperated with the police and given them every bit of information that I could give them. I don`t know where you`re getting your information from, but that was prior, earlier on in the day. When the situation took place, we were on our way to her mother`s to get her more clothes so she could spend more time with her family.
GRACE: OK. You said you were earlier checking on your financial aid for your tuition. Where was that?
LANE: At Wayne County Community College.
GRACE: Wayne County Community College. What are you studying, sir?
LANE: Education.
GRACE: And what is it that you would like to be?
LANE: It was a toss-up between a social worker and a teacher, but as I look at the state of education in my city, I think that there`s need for more black men to step up and become educators.
GRACE: OK. So you want to be a teacher. Mr. Lane, did you take Bianca into the building when you checked on your tuition?
LANE: No, I did not. I never entered the building. As I told police -- I gave them a full disclosure of all the events that took place up until the carjacking. They have this information.
GRACE: OK. OK, I couldn`t understand what you said. I think you said you did not take her into the building to check on tuition because you yourself did not go into the building, is that right?
LANE: Yes. We did not enter the building.
GRACE: OK. Then how did you check on your tuition?
LANE: I was on my way up there to check on my tuition. I realized that I left my briefcase at home, which had the other paperwork that I needed to file for my financial aid.
GRACE: OK. Now, does this mean that you were then bypassing the briefcase and bypassing the tuition and going to get Bianca some more clothing?
JOHNSON: You know, Nancy, again I believe these questions have been answered. And our focus here tonight is doing what we can to get Bianca back to her father and her mother.
GRACE: Well, you know what would really help, Mr. Johnson, is letting the viewers know what area of town you were in so maybe they could figure out who the assailants are that took the little girl. If you would like me to direct the questions directly to you, Mr. Johnson, I`ll be happy to do that because my goal tonight is to get the information about where this girl was taken and who her assailants may be.
As a matter of fact, there`s a chance this child is still alive, and I would like Mr. Johnson, and her father, D`Andre Lane, to join me in trying to get our viewers` help in finding this child alive. The tip line, 313- 596-2260. There`s a nearly $30,000 reward. That reward is climbing. With us and taking your calls, D`Andre Lane and his lawyer, criminal defense attorney Terry Johnson.
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GRACE: Breaking news tonight. The search is on for a 2-year-old little girl allegedly taken in the midst of an armed carjacking, Michigan. With us tonight, her father, driving that Mercury four-door at the time the baby was taken, and his lawyer. D`Andre Lane and Terry Johnson, lawyer, joining us out of Michigan and taking your calls.
D`Andre Lane, you`re very brave for coming on tonight. You`re facing a lot of tough questions, you and your lawyer, amidst claims by the cops that you failed a poly. What happened?
JOHNSON: Well, I`d like to address the poly issue.
GRACE: Go ahead.
JOHNSON: I`m sure -- thank you. First of all, as anybody knows, when you take a polygraph, you don`t take it under certain conditions. Number one, Mr. Lane was a victim, a victim of a carjacking in which his daughter was abducted. He`s then taken into custody. He is interrogated. And then he`s asked to draw a picture -- or I`m sorry -- to describe the people that did this to him. Following that, they then strap him up for a polygraph after such a heinous act had been done on him.
That is not the proper way to take a polygraph. He didn`t fail a polygraph. It wasn`t done properly. So when you talk about he failed a polygraph, no. It has to be administered in a proper manner.
GRACE: OK.
JOHNSON: Anybody that -- go ahead.
GRACE: Terry, what I don`t understand, are you saying that the timing of the polygraph was what was wrong with the administration of the poly? Yes, no.
JOHNSON: That`s a part of it. That is absolutely part it.
GRACE: OK, because he passed all the other questions except about, did he know where his daughter was. So he passed all the other questions.
JOHNSON: And Nancy, where are you getting...
GRACE: And would he be willing to take another poly...
JOHNSON: ... this information?
GRACE: ... now that a period of time has passed?
JOHNSON: Well, here`s the question. Where is this information coming from? Because here locally, that`s not what`s being reported. So again, we have...
GRACE: Really?
JOHNSON: ... the media...
GRACE: What about it, Alexis? What have you learned about the poly, quickly, Alexis Weed?
WEED: Nancy, "The Detroit News" is reporting that he failed the question, Did you have anything to do with her disappearance? And do you know where she is now?
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GRACE: Breaking news tonight, a 2-year-old little girl allegedly carjacked out of a Mercury four-door with her dad, a busy thoroughfare there in Michigan, broad daylight, 9:45 AM. Daddy`s going to check on student aid for his tuition when two armed assailants take the car. Cops zero in, find the car less than a mile away. The car is in mint condition. The baby is gone.
Tonight joining us live, the father driving that car, D`Andre Lane, and his lawyer, Terry Johnson.
To Jon Hewett, reporter, WWJ. I noticed that Terry Johnson did not in any way want his client to describe the two assailants. Am I wrong, Jon Hewett? Or when this first started, did D`Andre Lane tell cops there was one assailant? Did I misread that?
HEWETT: I don`t know, Nancy, if he told police that directly, but I do know that day I spoke with Detroit police chief Ralph Godby directly. And they put out a request for a suspect search in describing what Bianca was wearing and her description, but also that they were looking for a light-skinned black male, unshaven, about six feet tall, dark hat, dark jacket -- or dark pants, dark jacket, et cetera. No mention at all of two suspects they were seeking. So that does seem to be a big inconsistency here.
GRACE: Yes, that`s a problem. OK. Mr. Lane, D`Andre Lane, you`re Bianca`s father. You were with her when the car is carjacked. How many assailants were there, one or two?
LANE: Like I told the investigators, there were two people in the car. One person got out of the car and aimed the firearm at me. I could not describe to them what the person behind the wheel of the car looked like. I gave them all the information I could give them.
GRACE: Well, Mr. Lane, let me tell you something. Very often, when people are staring down the wrong end of a gun, that`s all they can focus on. They can`t necessarily focus on anything else. Viewers, think back at the time that you were the scaredest, the most scared in your whole life, and what do you remember, the most upset you`ve ever been in your life. What do you remember about your surroundings?
So Mr. Lane, I get it. Now, you`ve given a composite of one of the suspects. Tell me, how did you get to the phone to call police?
JOHNSON: You know, Nancy, again, we`re here to work on getting Bianca back. You want to constantly...
GRACE: Great. Then just answer my questions.
JOHNSON: And again, as an attorney...
GRACE: That`d be great.
JOHNSON: Well, Nancy, you`re an attorney. You understand he`s cloaked -- and that maybe as a DA, you`ve forgotten that, but he`s cloaked with the presumption of innocence.
GRACE: No, actually...
JOHNSON: And he has been cooperating...
GRACE: I am here...
JOHNSON: ... with the police...
GRACE: ... trying to find Bianca. And you...
JOHNSON: Then let`s talk about that.
GRACE: ... don`t want your client...
JOHNSON: And let`s not talk about...
GRACE: ... to talk about anything...
JOHNSON: ... what happened on the 2nd.
GRACE: ... other -- well, why? That`s the whole reason we`re here. We`re here about what happened on the 2nd and who took this baby!
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: D`Andre Lane told police he was carjacked and the thieves who took off with his car took his daughter, too.
D`ANDRE LANE, FATHER OF MISSING 2-YEAR-OLD BABY BIANCA, CLAIMS CARJACKER KIDNAPPED DAUGHTER: There`s a lot of things being mishandled in this investigation.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: With guns drawn, the FBI and Michigan State Police entered the home of D`Andre Lane.
LANE: Why go in with guns drawn? My daughter does not need to be subject to someone else coming in and trying to make her father out to be a villain.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A black police SUV parked in the driveway. Police seen removing items from the home and placing them in the SUV.
LANE: When I talked to my daughter all she said is daddy, I love you. Daddy, I love you. She sent pictures to my sister`s phone. And her blowing kisses. She doesn`t even know what`s going on. I`m the bad guy right now.
Eight years I`ve been working on getting my life together to try to put that behind me. Eight years, trying to get in school, trying to get a job, trying to be a father to my children. Eight years. And you sit up there and tell me now that my daughter is gone --
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GRACE: Welcome back. We are live and taking your calls.
A 2-year-old little girl carjacked from their Mercury four door. Daddy had the wheel. A busy thoroughfare there in Michigan, broad daylight, 9:45 a.m.
We are taking your calls.
Back to Mr. Lane, this is Bianca`s father. There`s a shot of little Bianca asleep.
How have you been treated since this incident, Mr. Lane?
LANE: I mean at first I looked at everything, I was just trying to give them as much information that I could. And then all of a sudden I heard someone say oh, he has a criminal record. Next thing I know I`m thrown into a police car. I`m taken down, I`m interrogated. I`m made to answer questions.
I`m tell these people, I don`t -- I mean I can`t even think straight at the time. You know this -- I`ve never had anything like this happen to me. There`s nothing like this has happened to my family, to Beliga`s (ph) family, I mean this -- this whole situation is a tragedy and I feel like I`m being pushed around and being put in front of the media as the bad guy and I`m not. I`m not. I`m the father that`s out here --
GRACE: OK. Mr. Lane, at any time tonight did I bring up your criminal record?
LANE: I did not say you did, Nancy. I`m now saying you. I`m saying when I was out --
GRACE: Right. So the answer is no. You`re not under attack, Mr. Lane. I`m trying to cull facts from you that could help me and the viewers find your daughter. All right.
And I understand that you believe you have been mistreated. But what I want to do is focus on the facts surrounding Bianca`s disappearance.
Do you understand this is not about you? This is about her.
LANE: That`s what I`ve been saying to everyone, it`s not about me. It`s about her. And that`s why I`m trying to get the message out, please bring my daughter home. That is my only concern. I don`t care about anything else that`s going on right now but my daughter`s safe return home to her family. That`s it. That`s the only concern that any of us have.
GRACE: Mr. Lane, you say your lawyer says that you have cooperated with police. What have you done to cooperate with police?
LANE: I`ve answered every question they`ve given me to the fullest extent that I could. I have done -- I sat down with a sketch artist. I tried -- the composite -- I gave them every -- all the information I could. I mean the situation -- everything happened so fast. The -- I mean there`s a gun pointed at me, my daughter is in the car.
I`ve been just trying to give them everything that I could. I don`t know what else they want from me but I`m giving them everything that they ask for.
TERRY L. JOHNSON, ATTORNEY FOR D`ANDRE LANE, FATHER OF MISSING 2-YEAR- OLD BABY GIRL: And Nancy, let me say this. When Mr. Lane was in custody, he was asked by the police, can we search your house? Mr. Lane consented. He gave them written consent to go into the house.
GRACE: OK, you know what? Mr. Johnson, I real appreciate that and I give him all the props for having his house searched.
JOHNSON: Well, but there`s more to it than that, Nancy.
GRACE: But I would do the same. What parent --
JOHNSON: What? Do you want to hear the story --
GRACE: But what parent in their right mind --
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JOHNSON: I mean there`s more to it than that.
GRACE: OK. Can you give to it me in a nutshell? Tell me.
JOHNSON: Sure. Absolutely. Ever since then they`ve taken things out, that`s fine. He`s given them permission. After that they`ve never come back to him and asked for permission. They knew where he was. They`ve kicked in doors when they knew no one was there. They`ve gone in with guns drawn. They`ve had that house under surveillance. That was for media sensation.
GRACE: Hold on, Terry Johnson. That`s not altogether fair to the cops because -- give me that rap sheet. I mean since you guys brought it up.
JOHNSON: Well, you know, I`m going to fair to my client.
GRACE: That was not my -- no, no, no.
JOHNSON: And I want them to be fair to my client.
GRACE: If I were a cop going into Mr. Lane`s house, and I knew that he has a rap sheet for starting all the way back in the `90s for -- let`s see here.
JOHNSON: And he`s in custody. And he`s not there.
GRACE: Assault with intent to commit armed robbery. Auto theft. Felony car possession.
JOHNSON: And Nancy, he`s not there. Are you forgetting that point?
GRACE: Dope. No, I am telling you --
JOHNSON: Are you forgetting that he`s not thee?
GRACE: I`m not forgetting anything, sir. But what I`m telling you is don`t go crying about the cops having a gun.
JOHNSON: And are you forgetting that no one else was there?
GRACE: Please, don`t make me cut your mike.
JOHNSON: No. You`re missing my point.
GRACE: I let you finish and I`d like to do the same. No, no, no. For all the cops know somebody else can be there with a gun.
JOHNSON: Sure. If you allow me to finish.
GRACE: No. You`ve already finished.
JOHNSON: Well, Nancy, here`s the thing.
GRACE: You said they pulled their weapons when they went into the house.
JOHNSON: They`ve had the house under surveillance.
GRACE: So?
JOHNSON: And nobody went in.
GRACE: So?
JOHNSON: So?
GRACE: So? How do they know who is there or not.
JOHNSON: Wow.
GRACE: You know, what, all of this is --
JOHNSON: Because he was in their jail, Nancy.
GRACE: Neither here nor there. It doesn`t matter.
JOHNSON: He was in their jail, Nancy.
GRACE: What matters is the time surrounding the carjack. That`s all I care about.
JOHNSON: Well, here`s a question, Nancy.
GRACE: I mean I don`t have a problem with your client but what I`m saying is --
JOHNSON: We`re giving those statements to the police.
GRACE: OK, cut his mike. This is not about your client, sir. This is about his daughter. And the fact that instead -- put him up. Instead of discussing her disappearance you two are whining about how he was treated. No offense, but who cares? All that matters is her.
JOHNSON: We don`t care how we --
GRACE: Now, back to you, Mr. Lane.
JOHNSON: You were right.
GRACE: I want to hear what your message is tonight.
LANE: My message is to whoever has my daughter, bring her back safely to her parents and her family that are waiting on her, that love her, that want to see her brought home safely. That is my only concern.
I don`t care about what the media is putting out there about me. I don`t care about the threats that my family and I receive.
GRACE: OK. Good.
LANE: I don`t care about any of that. I just want my daughter back home. That`s it.
GRACE: All right. Who is it that you believe took your daughter? What did they say when they took the car? Did they say, we want your daughter? We want your car? What did they say?
LANE: Like I told the police, I don`t know what was said. I just know that a gun was pointed in my face and they drove off in my car with my daughter. I was yelling, my daughter is in the car. My daughter is in the car.
GRACE: Were you at a stop sign or a red light?
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LANE: All I want to -- I just want my baby home. That`s it. That`s my main concern is that BB comes home safely.
GRACE: All right. OK.
To Jon Hewett, were they at a stop sign or a red light when this happened?
JON HEWETT, PRODUCER/REPORTER, WWJ NEWSRADIO 950: I honestly can`t tell you. I don`t know that specifically.
GRACE: Alicia Zee, do you know if they were at a stop light or a red -- a stop sign or a red light?
ALISA ZEE, NEWS DIRECTOR, DETROIT METRO NETWORKS: Not to my knowledge. I know they were in a busy area, though, Nancy, as you`ve mentioned before on the east side of the city.
GRACE: OK. You know, Mr. Lane, I don`t under how they came up and got into your car. I`m looking at the thoroughfare. You`re not at a red light. You weren`t stopped at a stop sign. How did they come up and make you relinquish your car.
JOHNSON: Nancy, we`re going back to an area again -- we`ve given our statement to the police. If you want to know what happened specifically on December 2nd, we should have Ralph Godbee or someone from the Detroit Police Department here.
GRACE: OK.
JOHNSON: My client has given his statement about that.
GRACE: Pam Hayes, you`ve heard this. I want to hear your thoughts, former prosecutor, current veteran defense attorney.
Pam?
PAM HAYES, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It sound really bad. I don`t think he should be on talking about this. It`s not the proper way to go about this. They have a sketch of a generic black man that looks like Joe Campbell and it`s just no facts or detail. And everybody is just upset.
GRACE: And, you know, Pam Hayes, when you go on national TV to help find your daughter, I mean you`d think, you describe the assailants or something about what happened that day.
What about it Caryn Stark?
CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: Absolutely. You describe what happened. You really are not somebody who is there and keep talking about how you`ve been wronged, what you did wrong.
And here`s something that I don`t understand, Nancy. There are these two people, they take the car, so supposedly they are carjackers. But then they wind up finding the car and the daughter is gone. So now are they child molesters?
And if they`re child molesters are they work in tandem? I don`t know stories where two people wind up taking a little girl. That makes no sense to me. So much --
GRACE: With us also Marc Klaas, Marc, help me out. We`re running out of time. Hours are passing. Critical hours in the search for Bianca.
MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Well, listen. Here`s the problem here. Kidnappers exist or depend upon anonymity. These are kidnappers and apparently that was the goal of the crime since the car was recovered within just a mile. Apparently these kidnappers have no problem letting the world know what their faces look like. That could make it much, much easier to find this child.
I think as far as the search goes, the police and the public are doing absolutely everything they can based upon some very, very sketchy information.
GRACE: Everyone, the tip line in this case, 313-596-2260. We need your help finding baby Bianca. The reward is climbing. Nearly $30,000 and you can help find this child, taken at gunpoint according to daddy. Daddy with us tonight refusing, along with his lawyer, to answer any question about when hi daughter was stolen.
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GRACE: Welcome back. We are live in Michigan and the search turned desperate for a 2-year-old little girl carjacked. Her daddy behind the wheel. Now she is missing. Daddy and lawyer with us tonight.
To Woody Tripp, former police commander and polygraph expert. OK, Woody let`s hear your take.
WOODY TRIPP, FORMER POLICE COMMANDER, POLYGRAPH EXPERT: You know, Nancy, there`s a saying, a lot don`t care who tells it, a lot don`t care who hears it. This whole thing with the polygraph and it wasn`t right. And you know it`s with this test it shows significant reaction to two of the most relevant, important questions that you could have. Do you know where and do you -- or did you have any involvement with this?
And as you said, and I reiterated it, he didn`t have a problem with the other questions and there were more relevant questions than just those two. So, yes, there`s a problem there. And I think after what we`ve seen I don`t even know if a polygraph was necessary at this point.
GRACE: To Dr. Michael Arnall, board certified forensic psychologist, could forensics conclusively determine if Bianca was in the car that day?
DR. MICHAEL ARNALL, BOARD CERTIFIED FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: No. There`s a -- with a child seat there this child has been riding in the car before. And unless the child was picked up on video, some place through the city as the car was driving, there`s no forensic evidence inside the car that would be able to answer that question.
Hopefully they can see pictures of the kid in some of the videos that may have picked the car up as it drove throughout the city. GRACE: So Dr. Arnall, it`s much harder to fine DNA type evidence in the location where the victim would be normally.
ARNALL: Right. The presence of the child`s DNA or any other specimen is not going to help. However, I am sure that the FBI has fingerprinted and swabbed the inside of that car extensively looking for fingerprints and DNA on the steering wheel, on the child seat where they removed the child and on the outside of the car.
GRACE: Back to the lawyers. Eleanor Odom, Raymond Giudice , Pam Hayes.
Eleanor, what about the scenario?
ELEANOR ODOM, FELONY PROSECUTOR, DEATH PENALTY QUALIFIED: Well, the scenario overall seems just a little bit difficult to believe. And it`s not unusual to question the person who was last with the child. No big deal. But I`d like to take exception to the fact that he says he was in custody.
Nancy, if he was in custody, he would be arrested. He would be handcuffed. He wouldn`t be let go. And he never would have been allowed to walk out of that police station. So this wasn`t questioning under custody whatsoever.
GRACE: OK. Raymond, what do you think?
RAY GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Here`s my strategy, I get this client in my office tomorrow. I repolygraph him with my polygrapher. Assuming he passes I give it to law enforcement and I make it public and then I bring him on TV and answer questions.
GRACE: OK. Ray, do you ask the same questions as in the first poly?
GIUDICE: Exactly. Exactly the same questions. I get a very qualified polygrapher. But I also want to tell you and your audience. If my client fails it`s as if it never happened.
GRACE: Yes. We all knew that about you, Giudice.
GIUDICE: Well, that`s the way it is.
GRACE: OK, Pam Hayes, weigh in.
HAYES: I just think that he shouldn`t be on any more TV. He should be out there with the police looking for his child and that`s it. It doesn`t get any better for him to talk any more.
GRACE: You know, that`s a good question.
Mr. Lane, have you been helping in the actual physical search for Bianca?
LANE: I want to be out there. I want to be helping find my daughter. It`s been told to me by several people that it`s best for me at this time to just -- just reside with my family because there have been many threats towards my family and myself. I would hate to go out here and be looking for my daughter, if somebody does something to me and my daughter is found, now she`s maybe find without her dad.
I mean I just want people to focus on what the real issue is. Finding my daughter and bringing her back home to her mother and father. That is the only thing that we care about.
GRACE: OK. Let me ask you this, Mr. Lane. In what areas should we look for your daughter?
LANE: All over the United States. I don`t know -- I don`t know where these people are. I don`t know where they took her. Everybody should be looking. I just want everybody -- anybody. If you have any information anywhere just let us know. Please. We want BB home. That is our main concern.
I don`t care about anything else. I don`t care about me. I don`t care about anything going on but bringing my daughter back home to her family. That`s it.
GRACE: OK.
LANE: Period.
GRACE: You know I`m going to take you up on that, Mr. Lane. Since you`re saying you don`t care about yourself then I`m going to ask you to tell me what happened when Bianca was taken. What happened? Where were you? At a red light or a stop sign?
JOHNSON: Nancy, again, the focus is to get Bianca back.
GRACE: All right.
JOHNSON: And I`m sure you`re going to cut me off -- I know you`re going to cut me off and not let me finish, but again we`ve given those statements to the police. You guys are going on information that`s a little leaked here, a little leaked here. He pass this one, he didn`t pass that. He did this, he did that.
GRACE: Well, here`s your chance to clear all that up, sir.
JOHNSON: And -- and there I`m cut off again. Well, you know, Nancy, I wish I could just get a point out without interruption, but we`re here today, my client has cooperated with the authorities. We`ve done everything plus more that they`ve asked. We`re willing to continue to cooperate with authorities.
But instead what we`re here now everybody is pointing the finger at him, why? Because you guys in the media need somebody to point the finger at and that`s why you and a lot of the panel are doing. We are here to go use on getting that little girl back.
GRACE: No, actually, sir -- Mr. Johnson, actually, you are arousing suspicion because instead of answering the questions head on or straightforwardly --
JOHNSON: We`ve answered them.
GRACE: You`re using this as an infomercial for you and your client who claims he doesn`t care about himself.
JOHNSON: No. No.
GRACE: Frankly, sir --
JOHNSON: No.
GRACE: His story stinks.
JOHNSON: We`ve answered those questions.
GRACE: It stinks to high heaven.
JOHNSON: Get -- well, God be on here --
GRACE: It doesn`t makes sense and he won`t answer any specific question. But maybe I can get a question out of Alisa Zee --
JOHNSON: Why don`t we have the Detroit Police --
GRACE: Alisa, was there surveillance video? Can you just tell me that?
ZEE: I know that police have obtained surveillance camera footage and they are trying to corroborate this story. However, there is no official corroboration yet. We know he was seen at the school at some point dropping off his nephew at one school, but they`re looking at other surveillance video trying to corroborate but I have no word of official corroboration.
GRACE: So long story short, we don`t know if she was ever even in that car.
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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: D`Andre Lane told police he was carjacked.
LANE: I`ve never had anything like this happen to me in my life.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The critical missing investigation --
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Bianca hasn`t been seen since.
LANE: My daughter is not with her family. She needs to be home.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: And police looking at his movements.
LANE: We don`t need the sensationalism of kicking down doors with guns drawn on a house that you`ve already had surveillance on and you know nobody is in.
I am not the villain here. The villain is the person who has my daughter.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: What happened to Bianca?
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GRACE: We are taking your calls.
To Dawn in Washington.
Everybody, I`m getting worried that at 8:10 that morning, the nephew says he did see the little girl alive in the car with daddy. So the child is alive in the car seat at 8:10 a.m. that morning.
OK. Dawn, in Washington, hi, dear, what`s your question?
DAWN, CALLER FROM WASHINGTON: Hi, Nancy, how are you?
GRACE: I`m good, dear.
DAWN: Yes, I have a question. I was wondering how the relationship is between the father and the girl`s mother and if so could the girl`s mother be involved somehow?
GRACE: Good question.
To Alexis Weed, where`s the mommy and what`s the relationship?
ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Nancy, the mom is close by. Bianca lives with her mother. The father does not have custody of Bianca, although the mother, though, we`re learning through reports that the uncle has said, the maternal uncle, he is saying that Bianca was with her father for about a month, that the mother had let him visit with her. She is close by, though, and she does takes care of the little girl.
GRACE: So, Alexis, you`re saying he had the baby nonstop for a month before this incident?
WEED: She wept back to her mother`s on November 26th for her birthday party. And the father then picked her up afterwards. So she has been staying with the father for sometime yes, but the mother has seen her on and off.
GRACE: OK. Has the mother been questioned and poly`d, Alexis?
WEED: We know whether she`s taken a poly, we do know that she -- has talked to police. That she`s also been out there distributing flyers and trying to help in the search, Nancy.
GRACE: Everyone, the tip line is 313-596-2260. The reward is climbing. Nearly $30,000 in the search for this little girl, 2-year-old, Bianca.
Let`s stop and remember Army Sergeant Patrick Stewart, 35, Fernley, Nevada, killed Afghanistan. Also served Desert Storm and Korea. Awarded Bronze Star, Purple Heart. Two Army Achievement medals. Two National Defense Service medals. Two Overseas Service Ribbons.
Loved the outdoors, hunting, fishing. Leaves behind parents Steve and Sandy, brother Jason, widow, Roberta. Son Raymond, daughter Alex.
Patrick Stewart, American hero.
Thanks to our guests but especially to you for being with us. A special good night from California friends Michael and Stephen.
Now aren`t they handsome?
Everyone, I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.
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