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Investigation Into Whitney Houston's Death; Video Appears to Show Human Shields in Syria; Xi Jinping's Visit to Iowa; Regulating The Robocall; Pollution Raises Heart Attack Risks; Safety For Supreme Court Justices

Aired February 15, 2012 - 12:00   ET

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CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour. I'm Christine Romans, in for Suzanne.

Let's get you up to speed.

She will be laid to rest on Saturday in Newark, New Jersey, but the investigation into the death of Whitney Houston is still in the beginning. Authorities are now looking closer at the pills found in her Hollywood hotel room the night she died. And a source close to the case tells the "L.A. Times" that the doctors who wrote those prescriptions for those pills could be subpoenaed.

Artillery and machine gunfire echo across the Syrian city of Homs, where thick smoke from a pipeline explosion hangs overhead. Opposition activists say government forces are set on flattening every neighborhood that might hold dissidents.

Our Arwa Damon is in the besieged city.

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ARWA DAMON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Around 7:30 in the morning began the sustained bombardment, various sounds of artillery being fired, impacting here, as well as sporadic heavy automatic machine gunfire has been heard. And this has been the status quo in Homs for over a week now.

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ROMANS: Just hours ago, Iran began loading what it calls its first homebuilt nuclear fuel rods. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad helped insert those rods into a reactor at a research center in Tehran. It was all broadcast live there.

His government insists the technology is needed for medical purposes. Western nations believe the Iranians are focused on building a bomb. Today's move is a defiant response to Western sanctions over Iran's nuclear program.

Iran is also showing defiance by repeatedly threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz. It's a crucial, critical shipping lane for the world's oil supply.

Our Fred Pleitgen takes us there aboard a U.S. aircraft carrier.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We just remain vigilant as we come through.

FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Part of that vigilance, machine gunners to fend off small boat attacks. Many of the jets were stowed on lower decks to prevent them from getting hit if the Lincoln comes under fire, and helicopters hovering overhead to detect approaching ships.

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ROMANS: The FDA is warning doctors and patients today to watch out for a fake version of the cancer-fighting drug Avastin. The FDA says it may have been purchased and used in several medical facilities. The company that makes Avastin says this counterfeit drug, which has a very different label, as you can see here, it's neither safe nor effective, and should not be used.

We still don't know what killed her, but authorities are looking very closely now at the pill bottles found in Whitney Houston's hotel room the night that she died. A source close to the situation tells the "L.A. Times" that those pills and the doctors who prescribed them have now become the new focus of the investigation into her death.

Don Lemon is live in Los Angeles. He's following all of these developments for us.

And Don, it's still a mystery, what killed Whitney Houston. What is the latest on this pill investigation?

DON LEMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It certainly is. And we no longer, by the way, need to attribute the "L.A. Times." This is information that I have confirmed.

I just got off the phone with Ed Winter, the assistant chief coroner here in Los Angeles. Here's what he's telling me.

He is saying that subpoenas did go out to several doctors and several pharmacies looking into whether they actually prescribed the medications that were found in Whitney Houston's hotel room, and he said they did go out. And so far, he hasn't heard much back from the pharmacies, but he has heard back from several doctors, and he says all of the doctors have been cooperative thus far, and what they are trying to do is figure out if what the doctors prescribed, were they actual prescriptions, and whether or not there were multiple doctors.

For instance, Christine, if you go into a doctor and a doctor prescribes you a pain medication, or just any sort of medication, for example, and then you may go to a dentist, and that dentist will prescribe you another medication, it's called doctor shopping. So they're looking into seeing if Whitney Houston did that.

So far, Ed Winter says it doesn't look like it. Everything appears to be above board. And the reason they want to talk to the doctors, right, that they sent out these subpoenas is because they want to get as much information as possible. You go into a doctor and you say, hey, listen, I'm having trouble with something else, and then the doctor will recommend another doctor, and so they have gotten information like that -- this doctor recommended a dentist, perhaps.

Nothing out of the ordinary, again, the coroner is saying.

So, yes, they have subpoenaed the doctors, they have subpoenaed the pharmacies. And they say so far, they are cooperating and everything appears to be above board.

And remember when we talked about this whole Mickey Fine pharmacy that was, Christine, involved in the Michael Jackson case? Interesting note.

Mickey Fine was one of the pharmacies that prescribed medication for Whitney Houston that they found in the room. But according to the coroner, whatever Mickey Fine prescribed wasn't a medication that would kill Whitney Houston. And it doesn't appear that any of the medications were anything that would kill Whitney Houston if taken -- and I'll say that with a caveat -- if taken as prescribed.

ROMANS: Do you know if these subpoenas are routine? I mean, they routinely check all the doctors?

LEMON: Yes.

ROMANS: It is routine?

LEMON: Yes.

ROMANS: And the other thing about the explanation for having lots of different doctors could be that she travels. You're right, that maybe she was referred to another doctor. But you've got to make sure that all these doctors are --

LEMON: Can I say something?

ROMANS: Yes, please.

LEMON: Can I say something? She did have doctors on the West Coast and pharmacies on the West Coast, and there were doctors and pharmacies on the East Coast, too, that they are trying to get in touch with.

And so, let's just say everything is above board on the West Coast, but then you go back East and you're like, oh, wait, we didn't know about these doctors. So that's what they're trying to -- but at this point, again, I want to say, the coroner is saying it doesn't look like there's any foul play so far here.

And I spoke to him just moments ago. He confirmed this, and beyond what the "L.A. Times" is reporting. And just one more thing I want to get in here, because I know our time is short. We talked about those toxicology results that are usually six to eight weeks, and I asked him specifically -- and want to look at my notes here -- I said, "Have you gotten any prelims?" Because he told me yesterday, "We can get prelims back within a couple of days."

He said so far they have gotten no prelims, but they have expedited the toxicology reports for the Whitney Houston case, and they're hoping -- I said, "When do you think, Ed?" He said, "Maybe four to six weeks, maybe earlier, we should start to get something back because there is so much interest in this case."

But he said, "You know what, Don? You have to remember" -- and this is no disrespect to Whitney Houston and her family -- he said they have an average of 50 cases a day. And so that means we have 49 other cases, 49 other families calling, wondering what happened to their loved ones.

ROMANS: All right. Thanks so much, Don Lemon. We'll keep checking in with you there in L.A.

Thanks, Don.

Like any funeral, though, the preparations for Whitney Houston's burial are stirring up some old family dramas. A.J. Hammer will have the latest details on Saturday's service for us.

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ROMANS: Funerals have a way of stirring up old family dramas, and that's exactly what seems to be happening in the funeral of Whitney Houston.

A.J. Hammer, live from New York for us.

A.J., this service is now scheduled, we know, for Saturday. And we know they want it to be a family and friend affair. This is not going to be held at the big Prudential arena with thousands of people. This is going to be at the place where she found her voice.

A.J. HAMMER, HOST, "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT": Yes, that's exactly right. And as you mentioned, it's going to be a relatively small, invite-only ceremony.

This is the church where Whitney sang as a child. It's the New Hope Baptist Church in Newark, New Jersey.

We did learn from the church that gospel singer and pastor Marvin Winans, who of course is a member of the famous Winans family, is going to be the one to give the eulogy at the funeral. This is at the request of Whitney's mother, Cissy Houston.

And Winans will also be speaking with Anderson Cooper tonight about the funeral. It's going to be very interesting to see what his plans are for that.

The service will happen Saturday at noon. And while the church is considering putting a big screen outside for fans, Christine, that hasn't quite been figured out just yet. But a lot of fans are really clamoring to somehow be connected or be a part of this, and you know people will be gathering around the church even though they won't be able to get inside on Saturday.

ROMANS: You're right.

And there are also rumors the family doesn't want R&B icon Bobby Brown in attendance. He married Whitney Houston in 1992. They are divorced. They have a child together.

Could he be there?

HAMMER: Well, we put the question about whether or not the family wants him there directly to Bobby Brown's representatives, and let me read to you what they told us.

He said, "Any report or statement that does not originate from my office about Bobby Brown or his representatives is not authorized by Bobby Brown. We are not focused on reported stories, or false repots, for that matter."

So, of course, that doesn't really answer the question as to whether --

ROMANS: That's not a "no."

HAMMER: -- or not Whitney's family -- yes, it's not clear if they are trying to block him from being there or how he feels about it. But here's the thing. We know that Bobby and Whitney's daughter, Bobbi Kristina, has been with Bobby Brown since she got out of the hospital. She was hospitalized twice over the weekend.

Bobby's rep did tell us -- and this is great news -- that at least she is doing better. But the reports that Bobby wouldn't be invited to the funeral, they're pretty understandable. Think about the tumultuous history that he had with Whitney Houston. Think about how many people pointed a finger at him over the years for her erratic behavior when they were married.

But again, Christine, those are just reports. We do know that Bobbi Kristina's relationship with her dad also not always an easy one. So it's a really tough family dynamic to deal with in such a difficult time. I would hope at the end of the day they would probably defer to Bobbi Kristina's wishes, but we'll just have to wait and see if he shows up or not.

ROMANS: I know. But she's a young woman who is clearly just grieving over her mother. It's just so hard to decide what to do.

All right. A.J. Hammer.

Thank you so much, A.J. All right. We're just getting this online video now of Syrians being detained by security forces. Now, opposition activists are accusing the government of human rights abuses, including the use of citizens as human shields.

A deteriorating situation all around in Syria at this hour. Our Nick Paton Walsh reports on one alleged incident caught on tape.

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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: There have been frequent accusations of war crimes, repeated, in fact, on Monday at the United Nations. But it's rare that you get tangible evidence like this video to examine, which appears to show civilians being used to protect a Syrian armored unit.

(voice-over): At first, they chant for Syrian President Bashar al- Assad, looking like a pro-government rally. But then, this YouTube video shot on Sunday, apparently around Damascus, turns much more sinister. They stand still, pushed into line, looking anxiously around.

The troops behind them aren't their allies, but their captors. There have been reports the army was using detained civilians as human shields to prevent opposition militants shooting at them. And now a video, the authenticity of which we can't confirm, seems to show that. Slowly, they crouch then kneel.

A child's voice behind the camera muttering, "Oh, mom. Will they shoot them? Look. Look."

As soldiers advance down the road, they then lie flat.

It's unclear what followed in one of the more disturbing videos to emerge from a crackdown felt hardest here in the city of Homs. The shelling devastating lives; blood bags running low. The U.N. rights commissioner said Monday there was credible evidence of war crimes in Syria, abuses and charges that perhaps will make more soldiers like these defect.

This YouTube video purporting to be shot north of the opposition stronghold of Idlib. Their resolve, strong, but so far, also is that of the well-equipped army they face.

Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Beirut.

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ROMANS: Amazing reporting.

Next stop for the likely next president of China, Muscatine, Iowa. Find out why he's visiting my hometown.

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ROMANS: When the man in line to become the next president of China comes to the U.S., you might expect him to visit the White House, meet the members of Congress. Yes, all that. But why is he visiting a small town in Iowa today?

You know, because this is a trip down memory lane. The story from Ted Rowlands.

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CYNTHIA MAEGLIN, MUSCATINE, IOWA, HOST: This is Mr. Xi.

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Cynthia and Dick Maeglin were thrilled when they found at that Xi Jinping is coming back to their small town.

MAEGLIN: I went upstairs and looked in my photo albums and found these pictures.

ROWLANDS: There he is, the likely next leader of China, standing in the Maeglins' kitchen back in 1985. He didn't speak much English, but that didn't matter.

DICK MAEGLIN, MUSCATINE, IOWA, HOST: You use a smile and a twinkle and offer a piece of cake. And it's not all that complicated.

ROWLANDS: Xi, who met with President Obama on Tuesday, wants to see the Maeglins again, along with about 17 others he met on his trip 27 years ago.

GOV. TERRY BRANSTAD (R), IOWA: Yes. Well, he had the itinerary from his visit.

ROWLANDS: Iowa Governor Terry Branstad was serving his first stint as governor when Xi came in '85. The two met again last fall in Beijing, and Branstad says the Chinese leader said he wanted to come back.

BRANSTAD: He was so pleased with the warm and friendly welcome he received, and he really considers Iowans his old friend.

ROWLANDS: Experts say for years, Xi was known mostly for his famous wife, a Chinese singer. While his lineage runs deep in the Communist Party, he represents a new generation of leaders.

Former ambassador to China Jon Huntsman believes Xi could be good for American business.

JON HUNTSMAN, FMR. U.S. AMBASSADOR TO CHINA: He's gone out of his way in recent years to bone up on economics and trade, knowing full well that these are the issues that are going to determine whether or not the United States and China are able to get through the years to come.

ROWLANDS: China has been blamed for the loss of thousands of American jobs, some of them here, but China buys soybeans, pork, farm machinery and other products from Iowa. In fact, from 2000 to 2010, the state enjoyed a 1,200 percent increase in exports to China.

Governor Branstad wants to expand that relationship and thinks Xi will help.

BRANSTAD: Personal relationships are really important to the Chinese people, and having this kind of relationship with the next leader of China I think is very helpful to the state of Iowa.

ROWLANDS: In Muscatine, preparations are being made for Xi's arrival. People here are excited, including the Maeglins, who say they are honored that the man standing in their kitchen 27 years ago wants to come back.

D. MAEGLIN: Just for a little time. Spend an hour, hour and a half in the room with, as he says, his old friends. That's significant. That's significant if he weren't the president.

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ROMANS: Ted Rowlands joins us live from Des Moines, Iowa. Crazy. I grew up --

ROWLANDS: No, I'm in Muscatine.

ROMANS: Oh, you're in Muscatine. Well, I don't know why it says Des Moines.

Well, because, I grew up right outside of Muscatine, and I'm telling you, there's a lot of these exchanges that people do, these grain exchanges, livestock exchanges with Russia, with China, throughout the '80s, because Iowa is the bread basket of America.

It's just amazing. People must be buzzing about him coming back and how important he is now.

ROWLANDS: Oh, yes, absolutely. I mean, who knew?

He's going to be in this house. He had dinner in this house back in 1985. He will be here for about an hour and a half.

And he wanted to meet with those specific people that he met on his trip 27 years ago, Christine, just like yourself. You Iowans just make an impression on people. People can't get enough of you.

And he's making -- as you know, he's going out of his way from Des Moines to here just to meet with these folks that he met back in 1985. It's a great story.

ROMANS: That is a great story.

I know some of the people, some of those folks are snowbirds, right? So probably some of the people who knew him are probably in Florida and other places right now because it's the dead of winter. And if you're retired, you try to get out of Muscatine if you can.

ROWLANDS: Yes. And a few of them have come out.

ROMANS: Yes.

ROWLANDS: A few of them actually -- they're back. They came back just for the visit.

ROMANS: Wow. That's really amazing. All right.

All right. Ted Rowlands, have a good lunch, will you? Say hi to my friends in Iowa.

ROWLANDS: Of course.

ROMANS: Thanks, Ted.

American debt held by China, U.S. goods pirated by China. Those are just some of the sticky issues in the complex relationship between the two countries.

Joining us to talk about that is Professor John Doggett of the University of Texas. He joins us via Skype from Chicago.

Now, nice to see you, John. You've been to China. You know so much about this business relationship.

I wanted to ask you about this man in line to be the next president of China, his visit to the U.S. It's interesting, because this is a visit that's not for the American audience, is it? This is a visit that's securing his ascension in China.

PROF. JOHN DOGGETT, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS: Well, it's both for the American audience and also for the Chinese audience, but it's much more for the people back in China. This is an indication that this guy is going to be the next president of China, but more importantly, that he has the strength to be able to deal with the current leaders of the United States.

Biden was in China talking with him for 10 hours earlier. They did reasonably well. And then he's dealt with protesters here in the United States. He seems to be pretty unflappable.

So, yes, there are two markets that he's playing to. The Chinese market is obviously much more important, but the U.S. market is also important to him.

ROMANS: Behind the scenes, he's going to be hearing stories, we're told, about companies that are angry about losing their intellectual property rights to Chinese companies, about some companies, especially in technology, who feel like cyber-espionage, they are getting their trade secrets stolen.

How much can the administration be pushing those issues with him, and should they be?

DOGGETT: Well, they have to push hard. I mean, this is -- the analogy I use is football or any sports. You have a new team that's very good, that's very strong, that's playing as hard as they can, we have to do the same thing. So we have to push back.

But the other thing we have to understand is that China now is the largest importer of agricultural products in the world, and our sales of technology products legally are going (ph) to China very significantly. So this has to be a dance where both sides realize that we both have something to gain and something to lose.

One of the interesting things that people talk about is the issue of devaluing the Chinese currency, the yuan. The big challenge with that is that if we -- the Chinese did what we asked them to do, which is to increase the value of their currency by 20 percent, that would have a massive inflationary impact on us. So part of that is political theater and part of that is something that we really don't want them to do.

ROMANS: Yes. Our prices would definitely go up.

But we still had -- the president yesterday talking about, you know, fair and balanced trade. We don't have fair and balanced trade. We have a huge deficit. We buy so much more from China than we sell. Even though we do have record exports to China, we have even bigger record imports.

Can that big imbalance continue?

DOGGETT: Well, no. You can't have a trade balance that's unbalanced the way it is right now. But there is some good news.

One of them is our agricultural business. Our exports to China have gone up significantly. We're now starting to sell hard goods like tractors and (INAUDIBLE) to them. That's going to continue.

The other thing is, is that Apple has had an absolutely blowout experience in China. I know there's an IP dispute on whether or not they can use the name "iPad" in China, but in terms of their products, they are able to sell their products in China for 20 percent more price than they sell in the United States.

GM's most profitable subsidiary is Shanghai Buick, which is in China. Company after company --

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ROMANS: But John, let me talk about Apple for a second, because you have said that we need to think like the Chinese. We need to "Apple- ize" (ph) our economy, meaning we invent it here and we build it there.

But there is serious soul-searching going on about the conditions under which some of those products are made and the American consumer dollar. What are you getting when you spend your dollar? People are asking these questions now.

DOGGETT: Yes. And those are legitimate questions, but they go on the assumption that the Chinese people don't care about the conditions they're working in also, and that's just not true.

There are a lot of protests by Chinese workers about their working conditions. And one of the things we've seen in the past year is that wages in some of these factories that make our high-tech products have gone up 20 to 25 percent as the Chinese workers say if you want us to continue to work, you're going to have to pay us more.

So, yes, we need to put pressure on them. We need to be concerned about that. But we can't act like we're the only people that see these things and that the Chinese don't care. There are a lot of workers who care.

I mean, one of the challenges the Chinese government faces is very simple. They promise their people that they are going to continue to grow their economy. They have about 100 to 200 million poor people.

ROMANS: Right.

DOGGETT: If they don't grow their economy, there's going to be social unrest unlike anything they've seen in a long time. So they've got to do it.

ROMANS: And we know that stability is the most important thing. You know, economic growth so they could have stability and keep their political system as it is.

John Doggett, really nice to see you in Chicago. Nice to see you.

DOGGETT: Christine, it's always good to see you. I didn't know you were an Iowanian (ph).

ROMANS: Yes, I am a recovering Iowanian (ph).

Thanks, John.

DOGGETT: Thank you.

ROMANS: All right. These are pills that you can find in medicine cabinets across the country, but prescription drugs can be a killer in the wrong hands. Just because it's prescribed by a doctor doesn't mean it can't kill you.

We'll talk with someone with firsthand knowledge of the dangers.

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ROMANS: Here's a rundown of some of the stories we're working on this hour. Next why prescription drugs can be deadly. Before you pop that next pill, you want to hear from my next guest.

Then new rules for those awful robocalls. Ugh. Find out how the Feds might make it harder for the telemarketers to contact you.

And later, forget the catwalk. Some big designers are now focusing on creating hot uniforms.

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ROMANS: No one knows what killed Whitney Houston but investigators are now focusing on the pill bottles found in the hotel room the night she died. There's a lot of public speculation that those medications might have had something to do with this tragedy. William C. Moyers from Hazelden, an addiction treatment center, joins me now to talk about the dangers of prescription pills. It's so nice to see you.

You know, I'm really interested in talking to you because we just -- we don't know -- we don't know what happened. It's a mystery what happened to Whitney Houston but it has brought to the forefront here this question about sobriety, what is sobriety --

WILLIAM MOYERS, PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS, HAZELDEN: Right.

ROMANS: Xanax and some champagne but not any hard drugs, big conversation going on now about what is sober and what is Hollywood sober, and what we kind of accept as sobriety in America. What do you think?

MOYERS: Right. Well, I think for sure that alcohol and other drugs played some role. There's a lot of speculation, as you noted, Christine, and we're not going to know the answers until we get back the toxology (sic) report from the -- from the coroner. But the bottom line is this: Whitney Houston had been very public about her struggles. She had been to treatment several times.

A lot of people who had seen her in the days before she died knew that she was struggling again with something. Apparently they found some pill bottles, but the indisputable component of this whole thing that we all agree on is that she was drinking champagne.

And for people like me, as a recovering person, using substances after treatment, be they legal substances like alcohol or illegal substances like crack or prescribed medications like Xanax, are very risky.

And it's clear now that what was happening to Whitney Houston was a relapse and she was out of control. And as we at Hazelden know, the only bottom with addiction is death and anything short of that is a way out. And, unfortunately, she didn't get that last chance.

ROMANS: Can you be sober from hard drugs but drink champagne and take prescription Xanax? Is that considered sober?

MOYERS: No, not in the way that Hazelden would define it and not in the way that most treatment programs define it.

I don't know what treatment Whitney Houston got over the last couple of years but my gut tells me that whatever it was it included an aftercare program that was about managing her recovery. And managing her recovery meant abstaining from all mood- and mind- altering substances, except when under the care of the a doctor. And I think that's a really critical point here, Christine.

Look, I have had several surgeries in the 18 years that I have been clean and sober. I've been in the dentist's chair in the past 24 hours. And part of my recovery program, recovering from the dentist chair, has been to take some pain pills. But I always tell my doctors what's going on with me. I always tell my doctors that I'm a person in recovery. And so while it's not bad to use mood- and mind-altering substances, prescription medications, the key is to use them in a way in which the doctor can monitor them.

ROMANS: You know, it's interesting, because I think we have -- I think we have a full screen that shows how many deaths are every day -- every day from accidental overdoses, from prescription pills, from illicit drugs, you know, 100 people every day die from overdoses in America.

And I heard someone earlier this week say if that were whales beaching themselves every day, 100, it would be a national epidemic that we would be trying to find out, get to the root of and save these whales.

But as people every day this is happening to, have we just sort of accepted this as the baseline in America, that we have a drug and alcohol dependency problem and we just kind of manage around it?

MOYERS: Well, we have a problem in this country. We've had a problem for a long time. I mean, the most used and abused drug in America is alcohol. And we know the toll on that. We know the toll of illegal drugs.

But what we at Hazelden are encountering now, and our friends in the field are also recognizing it, is that prescription medications are a new and growing threat for people who are in recovery. I mean, America is getting older. Whitney Houston, had she lived, would be in the class just before the last class of the baby boom generation, reaching 50 years old.

As we age, the use of prescription medications is likely to become more relevant in our lives. And that's why it's so important that people in recovery view their recoveries as being all about a drug is a drug is a drug.

And while we can't ask addicts and alcoholics to bite the bullet and not take pain medications, they have to use them very carefully. And there's no doubt in my mind that something had happened in the last few days at least of her life, in which she was deeply under the influence of substances, legal or illegal.

ROMANS: All right. And we'll get toxicology results, you know, in eight weeks, maybe a little less. But certainly it's a mystery and it is a -- it is a very bright star that is no longer shining. You know, thanks so much, William C. Moyers of Hazelden. Very nice to talk to you today. Thanks for that insight.

And hopefully, you know, someone will see and maybe could be helped and reminded of the one day at a time and working their own recovery. Thanks.

MOYERS: Well, Christine, if you don't mind me just saying quickly, the bottom line is if somebody is out there who has been through treatment and is under the grips of prescription medication or has had a relapse for other substances, don't try to do it on your own.

We know at Hazelden that it's OK to ask for help. It's never too late until it's too late. Reach out and ask for help. The help is there if people will ask for it.

ROMANS: All right. William C. Moyers, thank you so much.

All right. New studies indicate breathing in dirty air is bad for your heart. Find out what you can do about it.

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ROMANS: Did you ever think about who designs those uniforms for McDonald's, maybe, or your flight attendant? Believe it or not, it's the very same people who design for the catwalk. Alina Cho talked to some fashion designers who are actually inspired by making uniforms.

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ALINA CHO, REPORTER, CNN (voice-over): What does this have to do with fashion? You'd be surprised. Designers aren't just creating clothes for the catwalk. They are also designing uniforms.

STAN HERMAN, FASHION DESIGNER: There was a time I walked around and had a hamburger at McDonald's and they, thank you, they wore my uniforms. My package was delivered by Federal Express. Thank you very much. Everybody I touched seemed to have a Stan Herman uniform on.

CHO (voice-over): Stan Herman is a multi-award-winning fashion designer who branched out into the world of the designer uniform.

HERMAN: TWA. That cute? You would look good in it now, wouldn't you?

CHO: That's great.

CHO (voice-over): Herman has been designing uniforms for 40 years for companies like McDonald's, JetBlue and, for decades, FedEx, so popular his uniforms arguably cover more bodies than any other designer on the planet.

HERMAN: I was a hot designer on 7th Avenue and somebody approached me and said, would you like to do uniforms? I said, what is that? And they said it's clothes (ph). And I discovered that I loved doing it because it was like branding corporations.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When a Braniff International hostess seats you on the airplane, she will be dressed like this.

CHO (voice-over): Pucci and Halston designed uniforms for Braniff Airlines in the '60s and '70s. Dior and Nina Ricci did it for Air France. Today, Prabal Gurung is remaking the uniforms at Sephora? The inspiration, the employees. PRABAL GURUNG, FASHION DESIGNER: They said how do you want it? They said we want to feel good and that's such a universal emotion, whether it is this or that. You know? And I was like, you know, that is how I want to feel, and I got it.

CHO (voice-over): Sophie Theallet is showing this on the runway and this at the Gramercy Park Hotel in New York, cocktail uniforms she designed in spill-proof silk.

SOPHIE THEALLET, FASHION DESIGNER: For me it's not the uniform at all. It's really one dress, more like a cocktail dress, really.

CHO (voice-over): But how do you design a uniform that suits, well, everyone?

CINDI LEIVE, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, GLAMOUR MAGAZINE: It's almost like a reality competition. Let me see how I can take these constraints and make them look fantastic.

HERMAN: The most important thing is likability. When you put on your dress in the morning, I'm a -- if I don't like it by the end of the day, I'm a grumpy guy. If a corporation walks around in a uniform that they don't like, they become a grumpy corporation.

CHO (voice-over): Alina Cho, CNN, New York.

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ROMANS: Don't forget to watch Alina's fashion week special, "Backstage Pass." It's Saturday, February 25th, 2:30 pm Eastern.

All right. They interrupt dinner, they clog up your phone with unwanted messages. What the FCC is doing to change the way robocalls are used by telemarketers.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Press one now on your phone to speak with a live operator.

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ANCHOR: Oh, it's a sound that annoys Americans from coast to coast. The robocall. But today the federal Communications Commission is taking steps that will make it harder for telemarketers to contact you. Alison Kosik joins me from the New York Stock Exchange.

What are the new rules, Alison?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: All right, so, yes, that is nails on the chalkboard kind of automated messages. What's going to happen with those is now that the FCC has actually approved these new rules, that happened today, it means you're going to get fewer of those so-called robocalls and robo text messages. Now, the biggest change in all of this is that telemarketers are actually going to have to get written permission from you to robocall you at home or send you those robo text messages. Right now, companies can actually call you if they have a relationship with you. For example, let's say you bank can call you to sell insurance. So what's going to happen is, that will stop.

Now, these rules, by the way, are already in place for robocalls made to your cell phone.

Christine.

ROMANS: But I thought there already was this "Do Not Call" list. I mean so why -- you know, why are these new rules even necessary?

KOSIK: Why are they necessary? Because we all still get them. Those automated calls I'm talking about. You know, and it's at the most inopportune times, you know, when you're brushing your teeth or you're sitting down for dinner. Really annoying.

So, this "Do Not Call" list that you're reminding us about, that was created almost 10 years ago. But, guess what, companies found loopholes in that law so the FCC has had to pass overlapping rules to close those loopholes. One big admission is that today's rules don't apply to calls from humans. That's where the "Do Not Call" list comes in. You still want to be on that, Christine, to stop telemarketers overall.

Christine.

ROMANS: All right. And, meantime, you've got futures -- you've got stocks down about 47 points. What's going on there?

KOSIK: Exactly. And Europe is the big driver today on Wall Street. And there's mixed news out of Europe. So what you get is a mixed outlook here on stocks. The Dow is down 47, Nasdaq, S&P are in the plus column. You know, on the one hand, China has pledged to keep buying European bonds, doing its part to help the European debt crisis. But on the flip side, everybody is still waiting on euro zone leaders to approve that $170 billion bailout for Europe. So you're really not seeing investors, you know, making any sort of conviction buying or selling in one way or the other. Christine.

ROMANS: Yes, after a kick in January, it's Dow at 12,800, now it's kind of just sitting there watching those cues from overseas.

Thanks so much, Alison.

KOSIK: It's churching.

ROMANS: Churning, you're right.

KOSIK: Sure.

ROMANS: All right, we've all see people out jogging on the sidewalk next to traffic. You think, can't be good for their lungs, right? It turns out it's not good for their heart either.

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ROMANS: We know that being overweight, not exercising, is real bad for your heart. But did you know that breathing in dirty air can be very bad for your heart too? Senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen joins us now.

Can pollution give you a heart attack?

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: It can contribute to a heart attack. And I think people get that pollution can maybe help give you lung cancer or asthma, but it also affects your heart. So this is a new study, "Journal of the American Medical Association."

They have found this before. What this study adds is that it says that it doesn't take long for pollution to hurt. So you can see in the city where the pollution rates go up over, let's say, seven days, heart attack rates also go up over those seven days.

ROMANS: So, why? Why -- what is it about the heart and the pollution in the air that is a bad combination?

COHEN: There's a couple of different things. All of that bad stuff that's in the air does a whole bunch of things. It damages the vessels, so the vessels don't work as well. It can make the blood thicker and more likely to clot. It can also make your heart beat faster. And all of those are bad. So on several levels, it damages the heart.

ROMANS: What can people do to protect themselves? I mean besides from moving, I guess?

COHEN: Well, you know, one thing is, when you're looking for a house or an apartment, if you're in a city where there are houses like right on top of the interstate or right on top of busy intersections with lots of car fumes, you might want to try to find, you know, another place to live in that city.

Now, some cities are thoroughly polluted and there's not much you can do. But, one thing I think that people should keep in mind, pollution's bad for your heart but there are other things that are even worse for your heart.

ROMANS: Right.

COHEN: Like being obese or smoking.

ROMANS: Right.

COHEN: So for a whole list of things that you can do something about, cnn.com/empoweredpatient. And we have what you can do to avoid having a heart attack.

ROMANS: Eliminate those things that are in your control --

COHEN: Exactly.

ROMANS: Before you start worrying about the things that are out of your control.

COHEN: The other things, right.

ROMANS: All right, Elizabeth Cohen. Thank you so much, Elizabeth.

COHEN: Thanks.

ROMANS: So, just how secure is airport security? Not very for the owner of this stolen Rolex watch.

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ROMANS: No arrests still in the search for the robber of Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer. It happened last week while he was on vacation at his home in the Caribbean. The incident has raised concerns about whether justices should be offered protection. Our Brian Todd reports.

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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A law enforcement official tells CNN there's nothing so far to indicate that Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer was specifically targeted when an assailant entered his home on the Island of Nevis recently and robbed him at the point of a machete. But the incident races a serious question, are America's top judicial figures adequately protected?

TODD (on camera): The Supreme Court won't talk publically about specific security arrangements for the justices. But here in the Washington area where they live, justices often move around without visible security and protection. Justice Breyer's home is on this street in Washington. There's nothing in front of his houses. And two Supreme Court justices live on this street in suburban Virginia. We look for visible signs of protection. Nothing.

TODD (voice-over): That's where we met Ralph Basham, former director of the Secret Service. That agency works with the Supreme Court Police to investigate threats to the justices. But like many top government officials, there's no extended protection when they're at home.

TODD (on camera): Shouldn't they have some level of personal protection when them at all times?

W. RALPH BASHAM, FORMER SECRET SERVICE DIRECTOR: I don't believe that they necessarily need protection 24 hours a day, seven days a week. And if you're going to do protection, you have to do it totally. Because if people are in fact watching to see where you may be vulnerable, they're just going to wait until that protection goes away.

TODD (voice-over): Basham says 24/7 protection is very expensive and invasive to privacy. The U.S. Marshal service protects the justices when they travel domestically. A Marshal spokesman would only say that agency is aware of the incident involving Justice Breyer and assisting in the investigation. Basham points out, one effective form of protection for the justices is their relative anonymity.

But there have been close calls. Justice David Souter was once mugged in Washington, though there's no indication he was targeted. Justice Clarence Thomas was the target of a racially motivated threat. And someone once fired a bullet through the living room of Justice Harry Blackmun, who wrote the court's opinion legalizing abortion nationwide.

BASHAM: Some motivated individual that is determined, he or she, they are -- they have -- there is a potential that they could get to one of our public figures, yes.

TODD: Basham and other experts say justices at the federal district court level often face greater threats to their security their Supreme Court justices because they deal first-hand with the criminal element. They point to the case of district judge Joan Lefkow, who found her husband and her mother shot to death inside her home in Chicago in 2005. The assailant was believed to have been someone who had had a lawsuit dismissed by Judge Lefkow.

So it moves back to a question still being asked, but not necessarily answered. Are top judicial figures being adequately protected?

Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.

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ROMANS: All right, that's it for me. CNN NEWSROOM continues right now with the lovely and talented Zoraida Sambolin.

Hi, Zoraida.

ZORAIDA SAMBOLIN, CNN ANCHOR: And from the lovely and talented Christine Romans. Thank you.

ROMANS: Thank you