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What do Isabel Celis 911 Calls Tell Us?; Jane Sorts Through NYC Trash; Tone Up Tuesday
Aired May 15, 2012 - 19:00 ET
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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Jane Velez-Mitchell coming to you live from New York City.
Breaking news in the search for little Isabel Celis. Cops spent the day searching a desert wash just three miles from the child`s home. Did they get a tip? Did they find anything? We`re going to tell you what cops told us.
Plus we`ve got the chilling 911 calls made by Isabel`s mom and dad the very morning Isabel was discovered missing. There is a startling different between the two, mom and dad. You`ll hear for yourself next.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Tonight, secrets revealed as we hear for the first time the 911 calls of little Isabel Celis` parents reporting her missing. The 6-year-old`s mother hysterical, but the dad eerily calm, even chuckling. Why did cops release these tapes now, just days after the dad was banned from seeing his sons?
Are investigators on the verge of cracking this case? We`ll analyze the tapes, the discrepancies we`ve uncovered, and we`ll take your calls.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tucson police who have released recordings of the 911 calls on the disappearance of 6-year-old Isabel Celis.
BECKY CELIS, MOTHER OF ISABEL: Hello?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, ma`am, are you the mom?
B. CELIS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. What is your name?
B. CELIS: My name is Rebecca Celis, C-E-L-I-S.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who noticed her gone? Your husband?
B. CELIS: My husband, I went to work this morning at 7 a.m.
She has brown hair.
No. I didn`t hear anything at all.
SERGIO CELIS, FATHER OF ISABEL: We are cooperating to the fullest extent.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re labeling it as suspicious circumstances and a possible abduction.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The parents say she was snatched from her bedroom last month, where Isabel`s father seemed to be somewhat calm.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think she was abducted?
S. CELIS: No idea. We woke up this morning and I went to wake her for her baseball game, and she`s gone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was mom there also?
S. CELIS: She`s just off to work. I just called her and told her to come home.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, the raw and emotional 911 tapes from the morning that 6-year-old Tucson girl Isabel Celis was discovered missing from her bedroom. You will hear both of her parents talking to 911 operators. One frantic, the other parent eerily calm as they described the chaos at their home.
And we`ve also got inside information that there are numerous inconsistencies in the father`s statement to police. Cops released the 911 tapes on the heels of another huge announcement: that Isabel`s parents are no longer living together and their father is not allowed to have any contact whatsoever with his two sons, Isabel`s two brothers, boys ages 10 and 14. That news clearly putting the spotlight on the father.
So why release these 911 calls now? Are cops trying to put pressure on Isabel`s father? Listen to Isabel`s mom, who is clearly distraught.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you looked everywhere, under the beds, the closets? Everything?
B. CELIS: Yes, I looked everywhere. The window`s out of our house. Somebody took the window out of our house. Please hurry, please and get here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. We`re almost there, ma`am, OK?
B. CELIS: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where is your husband and your kids?
B. CELIS: They`re outside waiting for the cops. Oh, my God.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Heartbreaking, but that`s what you would expect when a mother finds this precious child missing. But now let`s listen to Isabel`s father, who seems to be handling the disappearance of his daughter with utter calm.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is mom there also?
S. CELIS: She had just left for work. I just called her, and I told her to get her butt home.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m sorry. Did you hear that correctly? Was that a chuckle from the dad? Listen carefully to that again.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is mom there also?
S. CELIS: She had just left for work. I just called her, and I told her to get her butt home. (CHUCKLES)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow!
Isabel was last seen April 20 when her Dad says he put her to bed, but she was gone the next morning. He tells the 911 operator her window was open, the screen on the ground outside. That was nearly four weeks ago.
Today investigators searched again, this time a wash like this one in the desert near an Air Force base in the area, only three miles from Isabel`s home. Cops have talked to hundreds of sex offenders. Dogs hit on something in Isabel`s room, we understand. But no arrest yet. Could these 911 tapes unlock the secrets to this very disturbing mystery?
Call me: 1-877-JVM-SAYS. I want to hear your theories: 1-877-586- 7297.
Straight out to reporter Kevin Keen, on the ground with KGUN in Tucson, Arizona. Kevin, what can you tell us about the searches by authorities today?
KEVIN KEEN, REPORTER, KGUN: The very latest is that the authorities, up to 30 of them, have spent the day searching this wash, this desert-like area south -- on the south side of Tucson, looking for -- well, we don`t know exactly what they were looking for. We know that they brought sheriff`s deputies with them, officers, as well as a K-9 unit.
They say that they came here based on some information and wanted to conduct a search, a repeat search. They have searched this area before. They haven`t been able to say how many times they`ve searched this. They didn`t give specifics about what that information was, what exactly that was looking for, just that this is a routine part of when a child goes missing. They are willing to revisit areas to research places, and that`s what happened today.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s interesting, though. This is happening on the very day that the world is hearing these 911 calls. Is this part of a strategy?
Listen to Isabel`s father on this 911 call. Does he sound unusually, even eerily calm and reserved to you?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police department.
S. CELIS: Hello, I need to report a missing child. I believe she was abducted from my house.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How old?
S. CELIS: Six years old.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is it your daughter or...
S. CELIS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why do you think she was abducted?
S. CELIS: I have no idea. We woke up this morning and I went to get her up for her baseball game and she`s gone.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, contrast that with his over-the-top emotions at the press conference. Now, some have even said at the time they thought he was a little -- a tad theatrical. Watch it.
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S. CELIS: We`re looking for you, Isa. We love you, and we miss you so much, and we will never give up.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Stacy Kaiser, psychotherapist, the contrast between this man at the news conference where the world is watching and his flat- line lack of emotion when he`s calling 911 to report his daughter abducted is startling.
KAISER: I agree with you 100 percent, but let me explain something to you. Oftentimes, people who sound calm in emergency situations are really trying to be controlled.
And one of the things we hear is a little laughter that`s going on, and oftentimes that`s a psychological response to anxiety. And it`s literally the person`s desire to try and convince themselves that the situation isn`t as serious as they originally thought it was.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, other possibilities, Jon Lieberman, investigative reporter. You`ve been studying these tapes. What do you make of them?
JON LIEBERMAN, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: First of all, let me give it to you straight. Cops are frustrated here, and they`ve released the 911 tapes, because now they`ve completed multiple interviews with family members, including my sources are saying they found various inconsistencies in the father`s multiple statements. And they didn`t want the family to hear what was on this 911 tape prior to cops being able to interview all of them multiple times.
Now they`ve released it. Now it`s out there. And frankly, they want to put pressure on this father, on this family, whoever else might have information to speak up. And they`re tired of playing games, and that is why you saw the release today.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Listen to this from the 911 call places by Isabel`s father, who doesn`t even seem to understand what the operator is asking at times.
All right. Well, we`ve got so many different clips from the father and the mother that we`re going to play to you, but I want to go to Mark Eiglarsh right now and just get your bottom-line reaction to this dad being so eerily calm.
MARK EIGLARSH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, first of all, thank goodness for Stacy Kaiser. Until I heard what she just said, there was no other conclusion in my mind, other than guilt, as much as I`m trying not to judge this man.
I listened to the 911 tape several times. When I heard him chuckle, and I heard the tone that he used, which sounded like he was ordering a pizza, at the same time, "I`d like to let you know that my child is missing. I`m going to need a large with two toppings." It`s the same tone. I`m trying not to judge. Thanks to Stacy, I now see, OK, some people can react that way and would react differently than I would if my precious offspring were taken from my castle.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now listen to this. Add to that what the cops said on -- what he said on the call to the cops. Cops have said this before, but the 911 calls confirm that it was indeed the father, Sergio Celis, who discovered his daughter missing. Nobody else.
Listen to him describe those initial minutes when he couldn`t find Isabel.
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S. CELIS: I woke up my sons, and we looked everywhere in the house. And my oldest son noticed that her window was wide open and the screen was laying in the backyard. We looked all around the house. My son...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
S. CELIS: Are running, yes. My sons are running around the house looking for her.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The screen was on the ground outside?
S. CELIS: Yes.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Steve Moore, former FBI. This confirms that he`s the one and then he told his son. So it wasn`t like he and the sons walked into the room simultaneously. It`s all on dad`s word.
STEVE MOORE, FORMER FBI: Right. And I`m not so much concerned about his affect during the 911 calls as I am about the fact that he just jumped to the conclusion, apparently, that there was an abduction. She couldn`t have fallen out the window. She couldn`t have tried to escape without alerting them.
He seems to have the answers that he wants the police to have. That`s what concerns me, that he went to immediately to she was abducted. It`s conclusive. A lot of times people tell the police what they want the police to believe.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. I found that startling, that it`s almost the first thing out of his mouth. Who uses the word "abduction"? You know, first you check the neighborhood to make sure that you didn`t get confused and that somebody didn`t take the child accidentally: a babysitter, a relative -- Jon Lieberman.
LIEBERMAN: He hit the nail on the head, yes. It`s as much about what he said in the call as his intonation.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Kevin Keen? You`re out there. What`s the reaction to these tapes?
KEEN: There`s been a lot of talk from people who are just watching the tapes, listening to the tapes, watching the story, following the story very closely.
But I will tell you yesterday when the police released those 911 tapes, the chief gave the press conference himself. And he wanted to make clear -- you can make what you will of it -- that at this point no one has been ruled a suspect. Everyone is a potential suspect. And the police are focusing on external people outside of the family, a possibility of a stranger abducting or taking little Isabel.
Also, detectives are still looking inside the family to other family members, as well. But the chief stressed that there wasn`t just one person that they`re taking a look at. The 911 tapes, certainly he didn`t talk much about, but that adds to the speculation.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: On the other side, more tapes. The mother.
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B. CELIS: I went to work this morning at 7, and I just -- I didn`t even check on her. I should have come and checked on her!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Just take a deep breath, OK? I know it`s hard.
B. CELIS: Oh, no, I can`t even...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Does your daughter have a medical condition?
B. CELIS: No. She has nothing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, she has what?
B. CELIS: There`s no medical condition. No nothing. No allergies, no medical conditions.
She`s got brown hair.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Didn`t hear anything at all?
B. CELIS: No. I didn`t hear anything at all.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. There is the mother of little Isabel, appropriately, I would say hysterical. Let`s listen to the dad again as he makes a joke while talking to the 911 operator.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is mom there also?
S. CELIS: She had just left for work and I just called her, and I told her to get her butt home. (CHUCKLE)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know, Selin Darkalstanian, HLN senior producer, we had a meeting this morning. And again, we want to stress that there are no suspects, and this man is not considered a suspect, but clearly the focus has become squarely centered on him because of what you might call his sort of odd reaction on the 911 calls.
And we were talking about it. We were -- we were basically trying to say, well, what`s the innocent explanation for actually making a joke when you are calling police to report your daughter abducted, Selin?
SELIN DARKALSTANIAN, HLN SENIOR PRODUCER: I`m not a psychologist, Jane. I`m not an attorney. I`m just a regular person hearing that. That`s all everybody can focus on in the 911 call of the father, because that is -- that is not a normal reaction. That is just not a normal reaction to your kid being missing.
And this is the same father who we`ve seen at the press conferences hysterical, crying, being as you said theatrical. And he`s the same guy on these calls now very calm. So there is -- it`s not the same person. Something isn`t clicking. It`s not -- it doesn`t add up. This is not the same guy we saw at the press conferences.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And let`s listen again to Isabel`s dad immediately using the word "abducted" when he speaks to the 911 operators. It`s almost the first thing out of his mouth. Listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tucson Police Department.
S. CELIS: Hello. I need to report a missing child. I believe she was abducted from my house.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How old?
S. CELIS: Six years old.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Is it your daughter?
S. CELIS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why do you think she was abducted?
S. CELIS: No idea. We woke up this morning. I went to get her up for her baseball game, and she`s gone.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s absolutely extraordinary to use the word "abducted" in the first five seconds or ten seconds of a call to 911 when you can`t find your little girl in the morning, although you know, with all the abductions that we cover and all the media covers around the country, maybe that is the reaction that parents have these days.
Let`s go to Greg, Connecticut. Your question or thought, Greg?
CALLER: Hey, Jane. Thank you for taking my call. I`ve been a fan of yours since you were an anchor here in New York back in the day.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thank you.
CALLER: You`re welcome. I just want to say that -- in this day and age of media technology, it`s hard to know how you`re going to react and when you`re going to be in the spotlight like this, the media, you don`t win if you go out there. And you don`t win if you keep quiet, because everyone`s going to form a judgment.
And you just don`t know how you would react to a child missing. And when you have to play for the camera and everybody, a majority of people may think you`re guilty. You just add this element that I don`t think that the Keaches (ph) or the Walshes had back in their day when their children were taken.
So it just seems to be a lose-lose situation, although he does sound eerily calm, especially from the...
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re keeping an eye on what`s trending. Here`s your "Viral Video of the Day."
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m messing with her and then, you know, out the mills. My dog is a mother to four kittens. She adopted them as her own.
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S. CELIS: We got home late from my son`s baseball game about 10:30 last night. And everyone took their showers, and they all went to bed. I even was in the living room watching the Diamondbacks game at midnight. And I fell asleep, and I never heard anything weird. So I was like just on the other side of the wall from her.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, contrast that with what Isabel`s neighbor said about what she heard at 6 a.m. on the morning the child was discovered missing.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My dog she woke me up. She`s very skeptical of people. And when she heard voices she started barking, and that woke me up. And that`s when I noticed the male voices, multiple male voices. And I noticed that the Celises` dogs were going crazy. And they bark a lot, but this was a different type of barking. This was a very, very frantic barking.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Jon Lieberman, investigative reporter. She heard male voices and dogs going crazy. The dad didn`t hear that.
And then what about him watching this game? We actually checked, and the Arizona Diamondbacks played the Atlanta Braves that night. Game time 6:40 p.m., Arizona time. The game lasted three hours, so it was over by 9:30.
LIEBERMAN: Right, well...
VELEZ-MITCHELL: He could have DVRed it.
LIEBERMAN: Yes. He could have DVRed it. But it`s almost like he`s setting up an alibi. Obviously, he hasn`t been charged, and he`s not named a suspect.
But it`s almost like he`s volunteering this information that isn`t even appropriate to volunteer at that time, that he was on the couch. It was midnight. It`s like he`s setting up an alibi for not being in bed with his wife at midnight so she might not think anything was wrong.
But there are other inconsistencies, too. He gave a flawed description of the girl on the 911 tape. You know, he says she`s in blue shorts and a pink top. Well, the mother says no, that`s not true. He says he put her to bed at 10:30 at night. We have found other inconsistencies there, too, with the time. So it`s a cumulative effect of all the inconsistencies.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. When Isabel`s dad called cops, did the 911 operator already suspect something was off? Listen to this exchange.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you`re both natural parents of the child?
S. CELIS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. So no step-parents? Any problems with any grandparents?
S. CELIS: No.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you don`t have any family issues or anything like that?
S. CELIS: No.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. So Mark Eiglarsh, criminal defense attorney, the operator is asking that question, because statistically, most abductees are taken by someone they know. Three out of four children are either related or acquainted with their kidnapper.
EIGLARSH: Yes. There`s a lot of questions being asked during this conversation.
And again, I need to try not to judge this guy, because maybe,= he`s completely innocent, and it would be horrible for us to say something negative.
However, this 911 operator is asking him every question, and not one time does he say, "Send someone. Are you sending someone? Please send someone now!" Nothing, not even in a calm voice. I`ll give him that. Let`s say he just talks very calm. "Are you going to be sending someone?"
She asks him the names of the two sons, what are their ages. At some point I`m like, "Ma`am, could we do this later? Could you send someone?"
I`m trying not to judge him, but that was absent, too, from the call.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, and I also noticed, Selin, that when he did hold that emotional news conference and said, "We`re going to search for you forever," it was a tad early, in my opinion, to announce that you`re going to search for someone forever, when you hope to find them right away.
Selin, ten seconds.
DARKALSTANIAN: Since the beginning he`s been doing that, and he`s been saying, "We`re going to bring you back. Whoever has her, bring her back." How does he know who has her if they`re -- are they out for ransom? I mean, how does he know these things?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tucson police who have released recordings of the 911 calls on the disappearance of 6-year-old Isabel Celis.
REBECCA CELIS, MOTHER OF ISABEL: Hello.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, ma`am, are you the mom?
R. CELIS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ok. What is your name?
R. CELIS: My name is Rebecca Celis, C-E-L-I-S.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who noticed her gone? Your husband?
R. CELIS: My husband. I went to work this morning at 7:00 and she has brown hair.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You didn`t hear anything at all?
R. CELIS: No, I didn`t hear anything at all.
SERGIO CELIS, FATHER OF ISABEL: We are cooperating to the fullest extent.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re labeling as suspicious circumstances and a possible abduction.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The parents she was snatched from her bedroom last month while Isabel`s father seemed to be somewhat calm.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why do you think she was abducted?
S. CELIS: I have no idea. We woke up this morning. I went to go get her up for her baseball game and she was gone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is mom there also.
S. CELIS: She had just left for work. I just told her and I told her to get her butt home.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN HOST: Unbelievable 911 tapes. You are hearing them tonight -- Isabel`s mother and father calling 911 reporting her missing. The dad is the one who says he discovered her missing and then alerts his two boys ages 10 and 14. They go around and frantically try to find the child.
The mother who is a nurse had left for work early in the morning without checking on the child, she says. And she was at the hospital and races back now. Considering the circumstances and we`ve all been talking about Isabel`s father being almost eerily calm and collected on the 911 call. Not so the mother, she is understandably frantic.
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S. CELIS: My wife just got home and she`s kind of hysterical and freaking out.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ok. Tell her we are on the way. We have a bunch of officers on the way. I want you guys to stay there in the house.
S. CELIS: We will.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ok.
S. CELIS: Bye-bye.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Stacy Kaiser, psychotherapist, we`ve been talking about how calm the father is almost like as somebody said he`s ordering a pizza while the mother is screaming and crying, as you would expect. Is it possible that that is their relationship? That he`s the cold, icy one and may feel that that`s a gender role and that he is doing that to try to stay strong for the children?
STACY KAISER, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: It is absolutely possible. I think there`s a good possibility that what he`s trying to do is be calm, cool and collected. He could also be in shock, but all of that said there have been some other red flags here for me, some of them that you brought up.
But I do want to add this. I work with Child Protective Services a lot. They like to keep children with both of their parents. And so it is extraordinarily fishy to me that he is now not being with his two boys.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Jon Leiberman.
JON LEIBERMAN, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: In any case I`ve ever been involved in -- to follow up on what Stacy was staying -- Child Protective Services will only separate a parent from their children in cases of abuse, hypothetically. I have seen it though in cases they separate them for allegations of sexual abuse or allegations of physical abuse.
I`m not saying that`s what happened here, but I`m saying generally. I mean the father isn`t even granted visitation rights right now with the kids.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. But Mark Eiglarsh, there are those who say the police want to separate the father from the kids because those are the three individuals, the two boys and dad who were there at the time she was discovered missing and so they want to make sure they don`t coordinate their stories.
MARK EIGLARSH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: True. And I`m bending over backwards to support that theory and disagree with John and Stacy, but the reality is, I also in 20 years have never heard of a father being separated from his offspring unless there`s something very significant.
Even if you wanted to solve this potential missing child scenario you wouldn`t say ok, you just can`t see your kids for no reason. There has to have been a significant reason why they separated him from his children.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Steve Moore, former FBI agent, is this an effort, all of this -- the separating him from the kids, the release of the 911 tapes where I`m sure the police know the conclusion that some people will draw namely that his behavior is odd at the very least. Is this part of a strategy on the part of cops? And if so, what is that strategy?
STEVE MOORE, FORMER FBI AGENT: Yes. It`s a strategy or incredibly irresponsible. I believe it`s a strategy. I`m not saying that separation of the kids has anything to do with putting pressure on him, but certainly that`s the end result.
The police, to me, have an idea of what they`re doing here. They`re very intentional in what they`re doing. This is not accidental. Neither was the search today. They say well, it`s just going back covering ground. Out of Tucson you covered this one area?
No. They`re getting more information than they`re letting on. They have the pieces to the puzzle and we`re just having to guess that they have more pieces than we would even guess right now.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: And I`m sure more will be revealed in the coming days. We`re all over this story. Final thought from Vivian, Florida. Vivian, Florida, your question or thought?
VIVIAN, FLORIDA (via telephone): I just want to know if, I mean -- every time they make a statement he always bend his eyes. He never made eye contact. He always looked down and his eyes, just go bend his eyes. So --
VELEZ-MITCHELL: A lot of people, Vivian, good point. Stacy Kaiser, a lot of people made the point that during the news conference when he was crying, he was looking down a lot. He could have been reading from a statement, but armchair psychologists say that`s always a sign of something.
KAISER: Yes. I mean, it could be a sign of shame. Sometimes from a body language perspective he could be feeling ashamed. But he also could be uncomfortable. These kind of media experiences for somebody who`s not used to being in front of all these cameras can be really uncomfortable.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. We`re all over it.
And breaking news now on another major case -- Zimmerman.
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GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, CHARGED WITH TRAYVON MARTIN`S MURDER: I`m (inaudible) through my mirror and there`s a real suspicious guy --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He just said he shot him dead. The person is dead laying on the ground.
CROWD: No justice, no peace.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you following him?
ZIMMERMAN: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ok. We don`t need you to do that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Zimmerman has made the statement of self- defense.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The neighborhood watch is neighborhood watch not neighborhood shoot.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you see when you look face to face with Mr. Zimmerman?
MARK O`MEARA, ATTORNEY FOR GEORGE ZIMMERMAN: A very, very frightened 28-year-old. He`s very sorry.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Breaking news now in the Trayvon Martin shooting case, ABC News reporting that the doctor who examined the suspect George Zimmerman issued a medical report saying that George Zimmerman suffered a broken nose, two black eyes, two cuts on his head and a minor back injury on the night Trayvon Martin was shot.
Zimmerman charged with second-degree murder in Trayvon Martin`s death. It`s easy perhaps to fake cuts or blood, but a broken nose? Zimmerman bailed out of jail in the middle of the night about four weeks ago. He`s staying at a secret location. This isn`t the first we`ve heard of Zimmerman`s injuries. They were brought up in court during Zimmerman`s bond hearing where the lead investigator admitted he hadn`t even seen that medical report.
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DALE GILBREATH, INVESTIGATOR: I know that that is an injury that is reported sustained. I haven`t seen any medical records to indicate that.
O`MEARA: Have you asked them for them?
GILBREATH: Have I asked them for them? No.
O`MEARA: Do you want a copy of them?
GILBREATH: Sure.
O`MEARA: I`ll give them to the state. It`s a more appropriate way to do it.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Straight out to Natalie Jackson, the attorney for the Martin family; Natalie, thank you for joining us on late notice because this is breaking news. What`s the response of Trayvon`s family to this new information of the medical report showing a broken nose?
NATALIE JACKSON, ATTORNEY FOR TRAYVON MARTIN`S FAMILY: Good evening, Jane. You know, this, quote, "new information" it really doesn`t make a difference to our position and I think to the prosecution`s position. We`ve always known that some sort of struggle ensued and our position has always been that Trayvon was fighting for his life.
We know that had not George Zimmerman gotten out of his car with a 9 millimeter gun and confronted an unarmed teenager nothing would have happened. Now as we talk about the police of this report, we have noticed some strange things.
And one of the strange things is the fact that Mr. Zimmerman sought his family physician the next day and that`s interesting because we know that paramedics were declined at the scene. And they were sent back. There was no -- there was no significant injury for George Zimmerman there.
One of the other things that we know, we saw what George Zimmerman looked like 30 minutes after the confrontation. There`s a video. And these injuries, we certainly didn`t see them in the video.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Mark Eiglarsh quickly -- I`m sorry, Natalie, I just -- quickly, Mark, your thoughts?
EIGLARSH: I disagree with Natalie. Legally, this is huge. A broken nose, cuts to the back of the head, black eyes and all consistent with his version and I think that it may resonate with the jury and maybe even a judge at the hearing coming up concerning whether he was standing his ground. Morally, different story.
JACKSON: Well, that`s not even true -- there`s going to be any hearing. His attorney has not even determined there will be a hearing.
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EIGLARSH: Well, of course, there`s going to be a hearing on stand your ground, Natalie.
JACKSON: Stand your ground does not apply to this case.
EIGLARSH: He`s absolutely going to file a motion.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Well, we`re going to agree to disagree. We`re out of time with that.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Time for another one of my adventures, but first a bit of fun. We put up this Facebook picture and we asked you what do you think is going on here. One of our favorite responses, Chloe said window shopping. Nenita guessed I was saying, "need a ride, two bucks". And Alicia said, "What are you looking at? I got rid of my car for this cart. I`m going green, baby."
Well, Alicia, the going green part was close. Take a look at my adventure.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, here I am at the beautiful studios in midtown Manhattan where I shoot my show and of course, we all talk about the dangers of pollution and climate change and how we all need to recycle. But I don`t know if it`s getting in to everyone`s heads because when I walk around the streets all I see are water bottles.
So I`ve decided to do something drastic. I`m going to take one of these shopping carts just like a street person. And I`m going to go to the garbage cans of New York and show you that we are not doing it right. We are throwing recyclable items right in the trash.
This is the very first -- 31st garbage can I`m encountering on my journey. Randomly picked right here -- Columbus Circle. Let`s see what we`ve got. One, two, five -- don`t have to look far.
These plastic bags are also a nightmare. I hit the mother lode. I`m getting good at this; getting really good at this. I could have another career. Be careful what you wish for. All right. Hold on.
I say thank God for street people because street people are doing more to help recycling than almost any other group of Americans. It`s true. You know what? All you have to do is stick your hand down far enough. Another one. Another one. Oh. Oh.
Hi. We`re doing this show, and I saw you throw that there. You know that`s not going get recycled, right. Are you embarrassed that you threw that in the garbage and it was caught on tape?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I love when I catch them.
I`m proud of you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (inaudible) recycle wagon?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Why not? Go for it. I think a lot of us like to say hey this is something that has to change. But the first thing that has to change is our own behavior.
Have I ever done it? Yes. I`m the first one to say yes, I have put plastic in a regular garbage can. But I`m super aware of it and I haven`t done it for a long time. In fact, I go out of my way not to use plastic bottles, period.
It`s here for the taking. It takes absolutely no detective work to find these.
I hit the mother lode here. I don`t have to go very far to find this. Vodka, but it`s plastic, so we could still recycle it even though it`s vodka which I don`t drink anymore, by the way. I have a vodka and soda going on down there.
I think I`ve got a really, really big one in here. What`s with the vodka? Why is there so much vodka? Somebody -- somebody had quite a party, ok? More booze. Read what it says, look, "Keep New York City, clean."
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: What about the responsibility of consumers to recycle this?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Right. But it`s there at the right place -- probably fit it in the right place. But like I said, it`s a garbage can.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re from Canada and we`re down here and these guys are coming to me all the time and saying what do I do with this container? What do I do with that container? We can`t carry them back to Canada with us. So we have to put them in the only things that we can find, which are your garbage cans here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But there aren`t enough garbage receptacles on the street to say this is the plastic, put it in here.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I think that`s the bottom line is that our culture is not designed to induce recycling. You have to climb a mountain to do it. And it`s touch.
Here the fabled blue bins that everybody keeps talking about saying if there were more of these, they would have a much greater tendency to recycle their plastic.
There should be as many blue recycle bins as there are regular garbage cans. We`ve been hanging around this bin, this recycle bin for a while and we haven`t seen anybody come up and put anything in it. Kind of sad, but, hey, we`ll do it. Why don`t we do it? Get some of these puppies in here.
So there are two things to take away. One is don`t throw these in the trash. Hang on to them until you get back home or somewhere where you can genuinely recycle. But there`s also the other option -- not using these. There`s plenty of reusable containers that you can take with you.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: For our laugh break, teachers pranking students for revenge. All to Whitney Houston.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On to more scenes (ph) for the fitness breakthrough of the decade.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let`s go.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: No dieting, no stress, no exertion of willpower. This is going to be fun.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just want to get results. Making people live longer, feel better, and look better. I mean there`s nothing better.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re inviting our viewers to join this adventure.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Every time we talk about slimming down and getting in shape you`re liable to see video like this. Cue it. People working out in the gym -- but let`s be real. Most Americans buy a gym membership and rarely use it. So if you`re one of those busy people who can`t block off a big chunk of time to work out, we have the answer. And this is part of our nightly adventure to slimness on the show.
Come on and join me. It`s fun. I have a brand-new blog, HLNTV.com/Jane, or you can just go to my Jane Velez-Mitchell Facebook page. It`s all there.
And now my very own fitness magician and author of "Beat the Gym", Tom Holland. Tom, who by the way, did an iron man triathlon last week and mentioned it in passing, oh, yes, I took out the trash, and recycled, of course. You`re going to teach us short exercises we can scatter throughout the day.
Now you brought some weights.
TOM HOLLAND, AUTHOR, "BEAT THE GYM": Yes.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I didn`t have weights so I brought two cans of organic tomatoes.
HOLLAND: That`s it, Jane. You don`t need a lot of time. You don`t need a lot of equipment. Don`t waste your money on expensive equipment that you`re not going to use. If you have dumb bells, great. If not, grab those.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right.
HOLLAND: So we`re just going to do some simple ones, bicep curl. Everyone wants to work their arms, great looking arms -- so simple. So right here you`re working the front.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes.
HOLLAND: And then you take them up, shoulders, right up over your head. So you can do this in front of the TV, while you`re watching the show.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I can do this while I`m waiting for my organic quinoa pasta to boil.
HOLLAND: Absolutely, in the kitchen.
And then for the back of the arms just sideways and squeeze back and squeeze up. We just did our entire arm. Biceps, triceps, shoulders.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Why do you have to lean over when you do this?
HOLLAND: You want to work against gravity -- great question Jane. So you want to squeeze up. You`re doing it perfectly.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I like it.
HOLLAND: And at the top you feel the back of your arms working right there.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Here is the bottom line. The entire theme of what we`re doing is no major changes.
HOLLAND: Yes.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Little tweaks to your lifestyle every single day.
HOLLAND: Exactly. There`s nothing natural about working out for an hour. I don`t know why someone suddenly said you have to go to the gym for an hour. You`re going to do a workout here that would take the time it takes you to get to the gym.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. And we`ve got more of these tips on my blog. Now let`s do the squats.
HOLLAND: Let`s get rid of these. Put these down. Get rid of those and you`re just going to -- one of the most effective lower body exercises is the squat. Sit back. Squats are not bad for us. Bad squats are bad for us.
So you sit back and you`re working your --
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Why do you have to put it out like this?
HOLLAND: That`s good form. You want to keep those knees behind your toes --
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Good form.
HOLLAND: -- exactly. And putting your hands out like this will help you balance.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, you can do this at home while you`re watching us. In other words, while you`re watching TV, you can actually do this.
(inaudible) obviously that people who sit around watching TV and snacking, that`s like one of the main times when you`re gaining weight.
HOLLAND: Right. Exactly.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: So instead of snacking while you watch us, you can do some of these things and have a little bit of fun.
HOLLAND: Definitely.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: And whatever. We`re going to hold? We`re going to come down and hold? Oh, my God.
HOLLAND: Feel those muscles working?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m feeling it. I`m feeling it. It`s working for me. It`s working for me.
HOLLAND: That`s all you have to do, Jane. You have the upper body and the lower body.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Now psychologically how do you motivate yourself to do this? I think what stops me, oh, my God, I have to go to the gym, I have to get on the train. I have to check in, I have go to the locker, do all that nonsense. You`re saying that we can actually do these things in the time it would take us to get to the gym.
HOLLAND: Absolutely. You can do it. I call this TV workout. I do it at night. A lot of these exercises right in front of the TV. You`re killing two birds with one stone. You`re enjoying the show and you`re doing what we just did.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And that`s what (inaudible) but I`ll let you get away with it.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now look at these arms, ok? Whoa. You can get that way. You don`t have to go to the gym.
Now I`m just going to tell you, you can do this while you watch our show because we`re focusing on fitness, we`re focusing on health, and it`s not a diet. It`s not deprivation. It`s not suffering. And it`s a little sliver throughout the day. So when you watch our show, we can do squats with these --
HOLLAND: Bicep curl at the same time.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: You can actually go something like that. All right. Join us in this adventure to slimness. Again, go to my blog, HLNTV.com/Jane. I can do three things at once. I can also talk. You can check out my Facebook page and see Kathy Freston tiny tweaks. We`re shedding the pounds and more exercises from Tom.
Nancy`s next.
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