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Jane Velez-Mitchell
Jaywalking Suspect Tased by Police
Aired July 13, 2012 - 19:00 ET
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, thank goodness the neighborhood is safe. Unfortunately, one chimp no longer with us. But the other one tranquilized in another area now.
Hey, folks, have a great weekend. We really appreciate you watching. JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL starts right now.
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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Just caught on tape.
(voice-over) Tonight, incredible video you have to see. A confrontation that leads police to Taser this man repeatedly. And it`s all over an alleged jaywalking incident. Or is it? The police department praises how the cops handled the situation. But how did an alleged jaywalker end up getting Tased? We`ll examine all sides tonight and tell you what you need to know with a team of legal and law enforcement experts.
And Kim Kardashian the latest Hollywood superstar to get pulled over by cops in her flashy car. We`ll tell you why. Plus, more on teen heartthrob Justin Bieber`s chase away from the paparazzi. And one shocking speeder you just got to see.
Then breathtaking ego. That`s how cops describe this video confession of a man accused of killing his wife and teenage daughter. We`ll tell you why this doomsday survivalist had been planning the brutal slayings for years. It`s a video that defies description. We`ll show you his deadly video diary tonight.
ZIKOMO PEURIFOY, SUSPECT: You`re not hurting me. You`re not hurting me. You Tase me, you will be charged. You`re committing a crime.
PRICE: Don`t Tase him. Don`t Tase him! He`s not resisting arrest. Get your supervisor.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get on the ground! Get on the ground!
PRICE: Why are you touching me? Why are you touching me?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Quick walking away.
PRICE: Don`t hit that man in the back.
Why did you have to shoot him with the Taser? (END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Good evening. I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell.
Tonight we`re analyzing a police confrontation. Officers in Florida try to cite a man and a woman for allegedly jaywalking Saturday afternoon. It quickly escalates into a nasty dispute. And officers end up Tasing the man three times.
Now, we just showed you a few clips of what is an extensive 10-minute long video. Here`s how the confrontation got started. Watch.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Cross the sidewalk. It affects the flow of traffic.
PEURIFOY: Did anyone get hurt?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It doesn`t matter if anybody got hurt.
PEURIFOY It doesn`t matter if there`s no victims to the crime, then.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now, I`m asking you for your I.D. I`m asking your for your I.D.
PEURIFOY: What -- quote a statute that requires me to provide I.D.?
NOELLE PRICE, SUSPECT: What do I need to provide you I.D. for?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The fact that you committed an infraction.
PEURIFOY: If you Tase me, you will be charged. This is an attempted false arrest.
PRICE: You guys need to get your supervisor! Get your supervisor. Call your supervisor.
PEURIFOY: You`re going to be charged. You`re going to be charged with a crime.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Put your hands behind your back.
PRICE: You guys are being recorded right now. Do y`all want a lawsuit? Get your supervisor.
PEURIFOY: You`re going to be charged. You`re going to be charged.
PRICE: Don`t Tase him! Don`t Tase him! He`s not resisting arrest.
PEURIFOY: I`m not resisting. Don`t Tase me.
PRICE: Do not Tase him!
PEURIFOY: You`re going to be charged.
PRICE: Get your supervisor! Get your supervisor!
PEURIFOY: This is assault. This is assault.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, it`s extraordinary video. The female suspect, Noelle Price, is the one videotaping and repeatedly screaming at the officers, "Get a supervisor."
About two minutes after the initial Tasing, officers again took aim at the male suspect, Zikomo Peurifoy.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stop walking away!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hit that man in the back.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: So we`re asking a question. We`re just looking at this issue. Is this excessive force?
Now, hold off on your decision because there are other things you need to know before judging this video. Example, it turns out both suspects were armed, although neither drew their weapons.
Peurifoy posted the entire 10-minute video on his personal YouTube page. And we did some digging. And we found out there are other videos on that page showing confrontations -- other confrontations with police. Does that matter? We`re discussing it.
Straight out to HLN law enforcement analyst Mike Brooks.
Mike, you have seen the whole tape. Ten minutes long. We`ve shown the highlights here. What`s your take? Put this into perspective for us.
MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW-ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Let me tell you something, I was a cop on the streets of D.C. for 26 years. They handled this guy with kid gloves.
I`ll tell you what. I wouldn`t let it go that far before I put hands on this guy. They did everything right, and I think they handled it -- the guy had a gun in his waistband. He`s lucky the officers didn`t shoot him.
Yes, he was able -- he had a concealed weapons permit though, Jane. But when confronted, he should have told officers first off, "I have a weapon." Did he do that? No.
This was him provoking law enforcement, plain and simple. It was -- the use of force, I thought, was right by the book. They should have Tased him even more the first time. It was a dry stun that they used. They didn`t hit a bundle of nerves. Didn`t hit him in the ideal spot to take him down. They got one cuff on him and then he backed away. And now he has another weapon in his hand, a handcuff.
So, no, these officers, I think they should be commended for the discretion they used and for not going to the use of an adz (ph) or for pepper spray. They stuck with the Taser. And I think they did a good job.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Here`s just a couple points. Because I think that we can all kind of discuss this and maybe learn something.
I often ride my bike. I often roll out of bed and walk my dogs in the morning without taking my I.D. with me. So was this man and that woman, for that matter, legally required to turn over their I.D. to the police? Check this part out.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now I`m asking you for your I.D..
PEURIFOY: What -- quote a statute that requires me to provide my I.D.
PRICE: What do I need to provide you I.D. for?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The fact that you committed an infraction.
PEURIFOY: That`s not a statute, sir. If you Tase me, you will be charged. This is an attempted false arrest.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. There you go. We did some research. This happened in Florida near Orlando. It turns out that Florida has a, quote, well, "stop and identify law." It`s one of seven states that impose a criminal penalty for refusing to identify yourself.
So I want to go to Ann Bremner, former prosecutor, criminal defense attorney. Does that mean that everyone in Florida has to carry an I.D. and turn it over to any cop who asks? Or does there have to be -- is there a criteria, is there a bar that has to be reached before a police officer can say, "I want to see your I.D."?
ANN BREMNER, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, first, it`s great to be on with my good friend, you, Jane. And also, I have to say I agree with my good friend, Mike Brooks, I mean, on this case and on the restraint.
It`s not a blanket law. I mean, basically what it is on stop and identify is that there are some articulable suspicious, which is under Terry vs. Ohio, a case known very well to law enforcement.
And you`re talking to somebody as a police officer and you ask for their I.D., they`ve got to give it. And in this instance I think a little knowledge is dangerous because you have these suspects, or at that time basically police were contacting on an infraction, thinking they had more rights than they did.
And I think they escalated the situation, greatly so, to where it ended up with use of a Taser.
And use of a Taser, we all have to remember, is something that is not generally a great use of force, like Mike said. In fact, in my law firm, we defend police officers. And I have to say our associates, we had one event where everyone got Tased, except for me. But you know...
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, then you can`t speak about it. You can`t speak about what it feels like.
BREMNER: I can`t speak about it.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Guess what? Neither can I. But I want to keep it that way, Ann Bremner. I don`t want to test myself.
As Noelle Price videotapes this incident, she repeatedly shouts, "Get your supervisor!" Watch this from YouTube.
PRICE: Get your supervisor! You need to get your supervisor! Now! Get your supervisor! Get on the ground for what? For what? Get your supervisor! Go get your supervisor!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Eventually, other officers do arrive on the scene. But you can`t hear the police going, "OK, yes, ma`am, calm down. We`re going to call the supervisor." Not to say that they should.
I want to go to my dear friend, criminal defense attorney Joey Jackson, who`s here with me. My big question is, could the officers have done something to diffuse this situation, given that the basis of all this is an alleged jaywalking incident? Let`s face it: there are murders. There are rapists carjackers out there. There are a lot of important things we need police to do.
I`m not saying that they responded inappropriately, but could they have done something proactively, perhaps -- perhaps -- to diffuse the situation?
JOEY JACKSON, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: You know what, Jane? It`s a fair point. It`s certainly in an area where you have limited resources and you want to make sure that the murderers and the rapists and any other violent criminals are off the street. You would hope that the police would focus on those things.
It also raises the question as to whether or not, you know, these people were treated in any disparate way, as we talked about previously, whether perhaps he was in a suit or something else, would it have been treated differently?
Having said that, though, here`s what I advise all my clients, Jane. I say comply now and grief later. The police have to get matters under control.
And I think what happened here is when you have a statute which says that you`re committing an infraction in jaywalking, when you have a statute that says you have to produce I.D. and you don`t do it and you start invoking the law and lecturing to the police about what the law is and negotiating with them, the police have to maintain and, you know, obtain control.
As a result of, A, saying, "Listen, I want your I.D.," them saying warning him if you don`t produce your I.D. it`s going to lead to something further," him again saying no, him saying, "Give me your I.D.," him saying, "Get on the ground," it presented and escalated a situation, Jane, that could have been avoidable.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They were very polite. It`s a shame that the defendants here didn`t cooperate. He tensed up, jerked away and took a fighting stance when they approached him again. A Taser had to be used.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: The police are defending their handling of this incident, in fact saying they`re going to use this video as a training video.
Now, the gentleman who was arrested, Zikomo Peurifoy, we`ve been trying to reach him, and the woman, Miss Price. We`ve been unable to. They`re invited on our show to tell their side any time. But he`s been charged with resisting arrest with violence and battery on an officer. Before he was Tased the first time he repeatedly states, "I`m not resisting." Listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PEURIFOY: I am not resisting. I refuse to comply with non-legal -- non-legal command. If you Tase me...
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. I want to go out to the noted judge Mary Ann Gunn of "Last Shot with Judge Gunn" out of Fayetteville, Arkansas. How do you refine resisting?
Now, the police report says this suspect was tensing his arms, refusing to place them behind his back. And after getting a handcuff on one wrist, cops say that he refused to put the other hand behind his back so that the hands cuff was dangling. So, again, at what point do you define resisting arrest?
MARY ANN GUNN, HOST, "LAST SHOT WITH JUDGE GUNN": That`s resisting arrest. This guy knew better. He knew that he had a gun in his waistband. And you can`t go into a drugstore and buy a concealed weapons permit, Jane. He went through classes. He knew that by law when they asked him for his I.D., he was bound by the law to immediately hand over his concealed carry permit and tell them that he was armed.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. All right, I want so go out to the phone lines. Angie in Georgia. As we ask you, let`s put up our Facebook. Because Facebook is disagreeing with all the experts here. Let`s check out that Facebook poll again. Did police use excessive force? 64 percent have said yes. No, 36 percent.
So obviously, this is a good topic for discussion because the experts are saying absolutely not. Unanimously. They`re saying the police did it by the book perfectly almost. And yet the general public out there is like, no, they could have done it different. So, Angie, Georgia, your question or thought, Angie?
CALLER: Hi, Jane. How are you doing?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m doing great, thank you.
CALLER: Well, I think both sides were wrong. And things got way out of hand.
Now, the man and the woman, they were obviously antagonistic towards the cops. But first, the guy should have shown his I.D.. I mean, what`s the big deal? You have to do that when you make a credit card purchase sometimes.
But second, the cops, when both of them had the guy by the arms and was putting his arms behind him, they had the cuffs out. Why didn`t they just cuff him? It would have been done then. I don`t see why they had to Tase him when he was standing right there.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike Brooks, what do you say to Angie from Georgia?
BROOKS: Because he was resisting arrest, Angie. He tensed his arms up. All he had to do was put his arms behind his back and be handcuffed but no, he was resisting. The officer told him, "If you don`t stop resisting I`m going to Tase you." And that`s exactly what the officer did.
All he had to do was, No. 1, show his I.D. This wouldn`t have gone anywhere past that. Put his hands behind his back. But they were trying to provoke the police, period. That was the reason they did this whole thing and videotaped it all. They should have gotten locked up.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Here`s another twist to this. This is pretty fascinating. Zikomo Peurifoy has other videos on his personal YouTube page that show other run-ins with police, to Mike Brooks` point.
Now, we blurred the officers` faces. The graphics you see on the second video were added by Peurifoy. But check this out.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PEURIFOY: I`m not charged with a crime.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you with him?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
PEURIFOY: She`s my legal documentarian, all right. Because I`m not being charged with a crime. You`re saying I`m not free to go. But you want to verify my I.D..
Are we being detained? Are we free to go? Why? Are we being charged with a crime?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Possibly might be violating city ordinance.
PEURIFOY: Can you tell me what ordinance that is?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Going that find that out.
PEURIFOY: If you don`t know it, then what charge do you have?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know exactly what it is.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Zikomo Peurifoy has other videos on his personal YouTube page that show run-ins with police. This guy we`re talking about because he was Tased three times. It was all caught on tape. He was arrested. We`re examining it.
But it turns out now he has this YouTube site where there are other confrontations. Check it out.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PEURIFOY: Are we being detained? Are we free to go? Why? Are we being charged with a crime?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Possibly might be violating a city ordinance.
PEURIFOY: Can you tell me what ordinance that is?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Going that find that out.
PEURIFOY: If you don`t know it, then what charge do you have?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know exactly what it is.
PEURIFOY: On what -- on what grounds? I just want to be free to go.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: This almost reminds me of people who do documentaries like "Borat" that go out, and they essentially try to get to people to say things or do things. Joey Jackson, how does that change the story?
JACKSON: It changes it a lot. First of all, it goes to his state of mind. OK, and it`s going to be analyzed.
Now, clearly, we know that he didn`t intend to ever comply with the police, because this is his M.O. This is how he operates, and this is how he challenges authority. I would advise never to do that. If the police ask you something, and you disagree with it, comply and then take your complaint to the civil review board.
Interestingly, though, Jane, very briefly, the poll you show about what the public says, that`s very significant. Because if there is this civil lawsuit, who`s going to be sitting in judgment? The public.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Absolutely. And, again, I think that this would have been all been much ado about nothing, except that there was this man who was Tased three times. And that`s why we`re looking at it. We`ve seen the Tasing. OK. We saw it once before.
Was there a way for the officers to diffuse this? Again, their bosses say they did everything right. They`re going to use this as a training video, because they did it the right way. And they say that the suspects were trying to manipulate the news media, that they had guns on them. So we`re just trying to learn from this incident.
Judge Mary Ann Gunn, when should a Taser be used?
GUNN: A Taser should be used whenever the officers feel that there`s resistance, that they don`t have control of the situation.
I will admit, three times it`s a bit much. They should have either tried to get a better shot. And sometimes the Tasers are very hard. I`ve done it. I`ve had the training. And it`s hard to shoot a very -- a target that`s moving or resisting. And three times was a lot. They should have just tried to do it in one.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ann Bremner, final thoughts, criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor.
BREMNER: Look, I basically think, and the law provides, you don`t look with 20/20 hindsight at a use of force against the police. It`s Bran (ph) vs. Connor; it`s the law of the land.
So the fact of the matter is, did they use more force than was necessary to take this person into custody? And the answer`s no.
And finally, with using a Taser that`s simply dropping somebody, and that`s what happened.
So you know, police aren`t door mats. They`re here doing a job each and every day. And in this case I hope they do use it for training, because they had a very volatile situation. It was a setup piece as far as it appears, I think, to all of us, at least on the panel. And they handled it appropriately, and it is difficult at best.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let me say that I concur. I went through a police training course as part of a news story I did many years ago. And afterwards they told me, "You will never be a police officer," because I basically reacted to everything inappropriately because I was like, "Well, I`ll ask questions later."
And I`m not trying to make light of this situation. It`s very hard to be a police officer. It`s easy for us to sit here as 20/20 whatever they - - quarterbacks and critique everything after the fact.
In fact, the suspect notes that the police officer`s leg is shaking. And he goes, "Why is your leg shaking? Why are you nervous?" Because this was such a nerve-wracking situation. You never know.
And it turns out that both of these individuals were armed with guns.
What I`d like to ask you, Joey Jackson, though, again, it was alleged jaywalking. I have jaywalked. I`m going to -- I`m going to plead guilty right now. Thousands of times. Nobody has ever stopped me and said, "Give me your I.D. because you`re jaywalking."
We`re showing video now of people jaywalking. Everybody jaywalks. If anybody on this panel has never jaywalked, right now tell me. Come on.
JACKSON: You know, Jane, you`re right.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Anybody here that`s never jaywalked?
JACKSON: We`re guilty.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Everybody`s guilty. Why? What?
JACKSON: We`re all guilty, Jane. That`s the truth.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re all guilty. Yes. Guilty as charged.
JACKSON: The reality is that, listen, police as we know have a lot of discretion. The issue is what they`re going to use that discretion, how are they going to exercise it? Was this the appropriate way to?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I think we could all learn a little bit from it. And I`m so glad that nobody was hurt.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police are looking for a guy that they say recorded himself going at least 186 miles an hour on his motorcycle. It has been viewed now a million times on YouTube.
So if you`ve ever wondered, this is what it`s like to race down a highway at breakneck speeds reaching 186 miles per hour. But this motorcycle joyride probably will not have a happy ending. Twenty-five- year-old Randy George Scott, if you`re out there, do turn yourself in.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, if you need another reminder that the roads are very dangerous, check this out from YouTube.
That guy was going -- you want to take a guess -- 186 miles an hour on a motorcycle. It happened to be Canada. Cops found out about the reckless speeder 25-year-old Randy Scott, when the video went viral. I wonder why. Cops say Scott has now vanished and they have issued a warrant for his arrest. This has been quite the week for drama behind the wheel.
Let`s now cut focus to Los Angeles -- celebrities getting pulled over left and right. Cops pull over Kim Kardashian of all people, as she was tooling around Los Angeles in a $300,000 Rolls Royce yesterday afternoon questioning whether she had the right license plates.
And new details in Justin Bieber`s wild paparazzi chase down an L.A. freeway last week. Listen to some just-released calls by witnesses to 911 witnessing the chase.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is either a celebrity being chased by paparazzi or some crazy chase going down on the Ventura Freeway.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think that they`re probably racing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, yes. The one is totally, totally silver. I`ve never seen anything like it. It looks like a spaceship.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Straight out to Mike Walters, news manager with TMZ. What is going on with these celebrities and the cars? Why don`t they just get limos to squire them around? Obviously they can afford it. Let`s start with Kim Kardashian. What the heck happened with Kim on the freeway?
MIKE WALTERS, TMZ NEWS MANAGER: Well, Jane, like you said, she`s driving a $350,000 Rolls Royce Ghost it`s called. Here`s the thing, it`s black, it`s tinted windows, there`s probably two or three of those kind of cars in the entire city of Los Angeles. So what happens is although Kim Kardashian`s very famous, when you drive a car like that around town, people are going to look at you, they`re going to follow you, they`re going to try to take your picture.
Now, with Justin Bieber it`s a little different. I feel like there is a mantra, Jane, here in Los Angeles which is dangerous that there is freelance paparazzi, who are looking for that one shot, that picture that`s going to get them hundreds of thousands of dollars. It`s one of the reasons why here at TMZ we pay salary to our camera guys to lower that incentive to have that happen. But this is what it is. This is the business they`re in.
And Justin Bieber, you`re driving a chrome Fisker. People are going to stare at you. They`re going to chase you. I`m with you, Jane, get a limo, get a car service. Sit in the backseat and go the speed limit.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, yes. The Fisker that he`s driving is also another super expensive car; something like what -- $100,000 or more.
WALTERS: Right.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: And people -- it`s bright silver. This is just a high speed chase by the way. We`re just going to throw that in for good measure. But this Fisker that he was driving, people said it looked like a spaceship. Ok.
WALTERS: Right.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: So you see the most famous kid in the entire world driving around at a high rate of speed in a spaceship. Yes, people are going to look. Justin Bieber tried to explain to the 911 officer why he was given a ticket after he hit high speeds in what he says was an effort to get away from the paparazzi stalking him.
Listen to this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ok. How fast are you going.
JUSTINE BIEBER, SINGER: I`m going 50. Before I was driving faster so that I could try to get away from them.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right.
BIEBER: And I got pulled over myself. Then when I tried to explain it to the police officer, they were being like not nice about it. They were just like you waive your rights to privacy because you`re a celebrity.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Joey Jackson, criminal defense attorney. Look at this car. This car is $350,000.
JOEY JACKSON, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Gorgeous. Absolutely.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: But a celebrity, driving a car like that with a famous face in a car that is such a stunner, they`ve got to expect the paparazzi to follow them.
JACKSON: You do. But here`s my take. Celebrities, listen, I begrudge them of nothing. Enjoy your money. Enjoy your wonderful cars. As long as they`re following the law, it`s all good.
Yes, they have nice cars. I can understand why. And in this particular instance, Jane, there was the tinted windows. They couldn`t see Kim Kardashian, but pulled it over nonetheless because of the uniqueness in the car. But so what? I know limos are nice, they`re good too, but that`s a beautiful car. Enjoy it.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`ve got to say, we`ve got some crazy video. Even on the side streets, the roads -- particularly roads in Los Angeles can be a very, very, very dangerous place.
Check out this so-called red light crash. Cops released -- wow -- this video to warn people about the dangers of running red lights. The drive survived but was charged with DUI. Now, it doesn`t take being drunk to get into a wreck like this.
The streets in Los Angeles and all over the country are quite dangerous. And I`m not talking about just celebrities driving around in their super expensive cars. You`ve got DUI drivers, you`ve got high speed chases.
There was a high-speed chase just this past week. You`re taking a look at it where they did a pit maneuver, they stop this vehicle. And then after they stop the vehicle, he took off again.
This is the first pit maneuver. And then you`re going to see him in a second take off -- they thought they had him. They didn`t. And he ends up driving away for a second time. Cops can`t shoot the wheels out because they`re afraid of getting sued if somebody else gets hit. And this guy ends up -- you got to see it to believe it. You`re going to see it in a couple seconds -- three, two, one, going basically into a house. So I gave it away. But you`re going to see it.
Mike Brooks, law enforcement analyst, what can we learn from all the dramarama on the freeways? And there it is. Yes. Thank you. Going on this week particularly.
MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: It`s crazy. That guy right there, Kip Arnold, teacher in the unified school district wanted for questioning for child abuse -- for molesting a girl. He was a physical education teacher.
Then poor Justin Bieber, he calls 911 because the officer pulled him over. That`s horrible. I feel so sorry for him.
But then you have Randy Scott on the crotch rocket as I call it, Jane, who`s driving down the roads in Canada at almost 200 miles an hour putting himself and other people in jeopardy.
You know, I ride a motorcycle. But I don`t ride a crotch rocket like this. I ride a Harley Davidson. I tell you, I would never go this fast even if I had a crotch rocket, Jane. Because all you got to do -- all it takes is one little bump and you`re gone. You`re an organ donor. But I tell you, watching him weave in and out of traffic, unbelievable.
But I tell you what --
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Crotch rocket?
BROOKS: It`s a crazy week this week on the roads, Jane.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike, I never thought I would hear you say the words "crotch rocket".
WALTERS: Crotch rocket.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: There you go. It was worth it just for that.
BROOKS: There you go.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thank you, Mike Brooks.
All right. Check out this amazing video of what else -- a car accident. A passenger gets launched through the sunroof. The car spins out of control nearly landing on its side and the male passenger is ejected straight through the sunroof -- look at that -- of the vehicle.
Incredibly he pops right up on his feet. And we`re happy to say neither he nor the driver were hurt.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And here`s your "Viral Video of the Week".
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ok Mike. Here is the joke. Why did the chicken cross the playground?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To get to the other slide.
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PETER KELLER, ACCUSED OF MURDER: I may get caught right away. Basically if I get caught, I`m just going to shoot myself.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Keller`s video diary released today.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Obviously taken by the suspect of himself talking to himself.
KELLER: Robbing banks, pharmacies, just taking what I want for as long as I can.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This suspect was accused of murdering his wife, Lynnette and teenage daughter, Kaylin (ph).
KELLER: I don`t have to worry about Lynnette or Kaylin.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They were amazing people.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was hiding in a bunker in the woods.
KELLER: I can last months up here without ever leaving.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The fort appears to be amazing -- amazingly fortified.
KELLER: I do have my escape. And that`s death.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight breathtaking evil caught on tape. Friends and neighbors thought 41-year-old Seattle computer engineer Peter Keller was just a typical husband and father -- uh-uh. Cops say his secret life as a doomsday survivalist led to double murder.
Why did this man gun down his wife and teenage daughter in their beds, and then run to live in a bunker in the woods? We now have his video diary. But it just raises a lot more questions.
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KELLER: I may get caught right away. Basically if I get caught, I`m just going to shoot myself. So I could basically be dead in two weeks, or three weeks. I don`t know.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Cops say this married, employed homeowner had spent years secretly planning to kill his wife and child even as he constructed an elaborate secret bunker in the woods packed with survivalist gear. Lynnette and Kaylin Keller were sleeping in their Seattle home when they got shot through the head by husband-father, Peter Keller, who then tried to set the house on fire to destroy all the evidence.
What toxic secrets could have led to this horrifying act of violence? Keller fled to this bunker, a camouflage fort deep in the woods. Some say he was preparing for the apocalypse. Keller was well-armed, well-stocked, ammunitions stockpiled enough to last months. But when police closed in, he killed himself.
We`re delighted to have with us tonight Sheriff Steve Strachan who is investigating and involved with this very, very, very bizarre case. Sheriff, what have you learned about the motives, because this guy was supposedly a survivalist? But presumably survivalists want to survive, not kill their family and then kill themselves.
SHERIFF STEVE STRACHAN, KING COUNTY, WASHINGTON: That`s a great question. It`s sort of the profound question in all of this in one of the strangest cases that many of our detectives and certainly myself have ever seen.
And I don`t that I describe him as a survivalist. I think certainly profound mental illness. Perhaps he`s a sociopath. But what`s so fascinating about this case, this tragic case, is that he is very rational in so many of the things he does. He does a lot of planning. He constructs this bunker. But at the same time some of his comments and the things he does are so irrational.
But it comes and goes over a period of many years. And as you mentioned, nobody really saw this coming. They had a few -- you know, they said he was quirky. He went out by himself a lot. He went on day hikes. But nobody saw this coming.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look at these two beautiful women -- unbelievable tragedy. The biggest mysteries about this killer -- why he decided to murder his wife and teenage daughter and then run off into the wilderness?
Now, he gives some hints in this video diary. Listen to the killer.
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KELLER: I do have my escape. And that`s death. I can always shoot myself. I`m ok with that. So I`m getting to the point where just trying to live and pay bills and live as a civilian and go to work are just -- just freaks me out.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Anne Bremner, you`re from this area -- your thoughts?
ANNE BREMNER, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I mean, we know the why, but we`re still asking why. And I was just thinking to myself, Jane, you know, I`m so proud to see Sheriff Steve Strachan here and what he did. Because in this case -- it`s just amazing that they found this bunker like a needle in the hay stack, the King County Sheriff`s Office did. And then they had the standoff basically before he killed himself.
It was an unbelievable unfolding of events out here that I think we`re all reliving now with the release of this tape.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: We love your pet pictures. Keep them coming Jane@hlntv.com. Here are some of today`s beautiful pets. Oh, Lucy. How cute.
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KELLER: It`s actually more comfortable for me to think about living out here, robbing banks, pharmacies -- just taking what I want for a long as I can. At least it will be exciting, it won`t where boring. And I don`t have to worry about Lynnette or Kaylin.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And this man who killed himself but then killed his wife and daughter before committing suicide after constructing a secret bunker. We`re going out again to Sheriff Steve Strachan, who -- boy, your officers did an incredible job on this.
But this man, even though he seems rational, when I`m reading some of the research, he`s clearly got very severe mental illnesses talking about building labs for viruses and nano-bots. How could his family and co- workers not have realized that he was mentally ill?
STRACHAN: That`s a great question and some of the same questions we`re asking. And the family I think was very attentive to a lot of this and the relationships we`ve developed with this family. Of course, when you see them in person, you see just how tragic this case was and how it affects people.
But we have been asking that question. I mean is this something you could have seen? He was -- his behavior was unusual sometimes. He went on a lot of these day hikes over a period of years, never told anybody what he was doing as he was constructing this bunker for nine years.
But at the same time, you know, families have these kind of relationships where sometimes questions aren`t asked. And unfortunately, in this case, it had a really outcome at the end.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: This is just a yes or no. Did the family, you think, know about this bunker? Did anyone else but him know about the bunker?
STRACHAN: He seemed to have taken great pains to make sure that nobody knew exactly what he was doing, exactly where he was going, or exactly what he was constructing. And if you look at the photos and you see the development of this bunker over time, it`s amazing.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Never before seen unrecorded video footage of these highly secretive and horrific exercises at a training site.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, mike. All right, man down. Hey, Mike. I need a bump --
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight a victory on a story we first brought to national attention on this show with the help of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. We warn you, this is disturbing, but tonight, we are happy to say that PETA is telling us that our voices made a difference.
The USDA reportedly, according to PETA has taken disciplinary action after PETA released this undercover video showing U.S. Coast Guards doing what appears to be extremely cruel, cruel trauma training on live goats.
It got Oliver Stone outraged. He`s an army veteran and, of course, we all know him as the academy award winning film director of movies like "Platoon". And he talked. He complained publicly about this torture training.
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OLIVER STONE, FILM DIRECTOR: Instructors use tree branch trimmers to break and cut off goats`s legs while the animals are still alive.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got a bleeder. Put some pressure on there. If you feel woozy, (EXPLETIVE DELETED) step away.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: The goats were allegedly conscious enough to moan and kick while their limbs were being cut off. PETA says the USDA has now cited the instructors in this video for not violating the Federal Animal Welfare Act for not providing the animals with adequate anesthesia.
We haven`t been able to reach anybody -- the Coast Guard, the USDA -- we`ve been trying, repeatedly. They`re always invited on.
We want to go right now to Kathy Guillermo, the senior vice president of laboratory investigations for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. What is the victory from your perspective?
KATHY GUILLERMO, PEOPLE FOR THE ETHICAL TREATMENT OF ANIMALS: Well, I think the victory is that the U.S. Department of Agriculture has reviewed the videotape we have submitted, and they agreed with us that it is a violation of Federal Animal Protection Law to cut the legs off goats who aren`t even properly anesthetized. And that`s a huge acknowledgment by our government that what the military is doing to these goats is wrong.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: PETA said, each year the U.S. military and contractors kill more than 10,000 live animals in cruel trauma training exercises. We have got other technology
Listen to this legendary director Oliver Stone talking about this.
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STONE: As a veteran, I believe that those who are willing to fight for our country need the best possible training. Giving them a goat who was dismembered with hedge trimmers is not it. In the 21th century, there are ways to train service members than violently dismembering live animals. These include life-like human simulators.
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: There are alternatives, yes, Kathy?
GUILLERMAN: There are fantastic alternatives, they`re used by other countries and importantly they`re used even by our own military at some of their installations. They`re used at the best trauma training hospitals in America.
There is really no excuse for the military and Coast Guard to be training service members with this cruel and outdated method. A goat who`s hacked in the face with an axe or has his legs cut off with a tree branch trimmers there`s no resemblance to a fallen comrade.
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