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Bristol Bails on Post-Show Interviews; Arnold`s Tell-All Tanks; Taylor Swift Songs as Pick-Up Lines; Binders Full of Jokes Following Debate Remark; Top Three People Going Extreme; "People" Magazine Goes Inside Demi Moore`s Heartbreak; One-on-One Interview with Chuck Lorre
Aired October 17, 2012 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Tonight, the SHOWBIZ Countdown, Hits and Misses. Bristol Palin gets dissed on "Dancing" and then disses us after the show. Honey Boo-Boo under fire. The hottest kid on TV gets judged for acting like a kid on her TV tour. But which star stutter will top the SHOWBIZ Countdown tonight, Hits and Misses?
Hello, and thanks for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer with two big SHOWBIZ Countdowns tonight, including the big stories breaking today of people going to extremes, like Khloe Kardashian`s mother reportedly going to extremes to make sure Khloe got that gig as the brand-new cohost of "The X Factor." And wait until you hear what Gina Gershon revealed after the extremes she went to after her cat disappeared. Did she really use psychics and her own urine to find her lost kitty? The big reveal of No. 1 is coming up.
But first, we begin our first SHOWBIZ Countdown of the night of today`s top five hits and misses.
We kick it off with No. 5. Bristol bails after being booted from the ballroom. An apparently very embarrassed Bristol Palin refused to speak with any of the media in the moments after getting kicked off "Dancing with the Stars" last night. She left her partner, Mark Ballas, solo to deal with all of us. Watch what he told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT about being left all alone.
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MARK BALLAS, PROFESSIONAL DANCER, ABC`s "DANCING WITH THE STARS": Flying solo. Oh, yes, they`re just sorting out some press stuff in the back and getting ready the schedule. We have to go to New York and we`ve got to do Kimmel. So she`s just getting everything fixed.
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HAMMER: Yes, OK. Did Bristol make a big mistake by bailing?
With me tonight in New York the great John Fugelsang. He`s the host of "So That Happened" on Current TV. In Hollywood tonight, actress Sheryl Lee Ralph. We cannot wait to see her in her starring role in the upcoming season of NBC`s "Smash."
Sheryl, I`m going to start with you. Personally, having been there, "Dancing with the Stars," you know whether they win or lose, all the stars always come out to speak with us. I think Bristol made a big miss. Why not be gracious and just talk to the media? Was it a hit or a miss for you?
SHERYL LEE RALPH, ACTRESS: You know what? I think it was probably a miss but with probably good reason. Bristol`s feelings were probably very, very hurt. She had the whole world watching her, because they had such interest in her mother, and Levi and the baby. You know that -- that bump that happened. So I think she was really hurt when everybody said, "We ain`t interested in -- we ain`t interested no more. Bye-bye, Bristol." That hurts.
HAMMER: It`s part of the gig, though. I mean, every time a star gets kicked off, they`re all dealing with the same level of scrutiny. I mean, they don`t have that mom to deal with, obviously.
But look, "Dancing with the Stars" is on ABC. So Bristol had no choice but to speak with the network shows. It`s part of the gig. She wasn`t able to bail on "Jimmy Kimmel Live." Let`s watch that.
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JIMMY KIMMEL, HOST, "JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE": She is the fifth celebrity eliminated from this all-star season of "Dancing with the Stars." Along with dance partner Mark Ballas, please welcome Bristol Palin.
I appreciate you coming. Because I don`t know -- I made, I don`t know, probably one or two jokes about your mother over the years. I think it`s very bold of you.
BRISTOL PALIN, ELIMINATED FROM "DANCING WITH THE STARS": I`m here for my apology.
KIMMEL: You`re here for the apology. I`m sorry.
PALIN: No, you`re not.
KIMMEL: No, I`m not sorry. You`re right. But I will allow you to make 48,000 jokes about my mother just to make us even.
PALIN: Well, I don`t know your mom.
KIMMEL: OK. Well, if you knew her you would make fun of her.
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HAMMER: All right. Well, maybe that`s why she bailed earlier: she was afraid someone would make fun of her. John, I bet you would appreciate the fact that -- that Jimmy Kimmel there said, "No, actually I`m not sorry." But was that a hit or miss for you that she ran for the hills and didn`t speak to the rest of the media?
JOHN FUGELSANG, HOST, CURRENT TV`S "SO THAT HAPPENED": You know, I think she should be happy just to be on "Dancing with the Stars," seeing as she can`t dance and is not a star.
I do think the most presidential thing she could have done would have been quitting the show halfway through, but that`s been done in her family already. So I look forward to her going back to her career as an unwed teen mom who gets paid $15,000 to lecture about abstinence.
HAMMER: Perfect. All right, John. You`re on the record with all of that.
Bristol has a lot of company on the "miss" category tonight. This brings us to No. 4 on the SHOWBIZ Countdown of today`s hits and misses. Why, if they were shooting the story of former governor and movie star Arnold Schwarzenegger`s new book, the director would be yelling "cut"?
We just learned today that Arnold`s much-hyped tell-all memoir, "Total Recall," it sold a measly 21,000 copies in its first week out.
Sheryl, clearly a big miss. It was so hyped. I`m guessing nobody really wanted to hear Arnold`s side of the story about why he fathered a child with his former mate.
RALPH: You know something, there was so many parts of that story that we did not want to hear. And like we talked about the last time I was on, that story was so hurtful. It was deceitful. The way we -- it`s just -- there`s too TMI and then there`s TMA: too much, Arnold. Just too much.
HAMMER: John, you know, when people make this stuff up and sell it as fiction the books sell out, which surprised me that people weren`t buying this up. Did you see this coming down the tracks?
FUGELSANG: Yes, I`m afraid I did. It`s nice to read about how Arnold was doing to the family maid exactly what he was doing to the California economy. But the one -- No. 1 rule in political marriage is you don`t cheat on a Kennedy. They cheat on you. So now it`s "I`ll be back in the discount rack at the back of the bookstore."
HAMMER: Got it. Right. He got that backwards. I see what you`re talking about.
FUGELSANG: Hasta la vista movie rights.
HAMMER: Speaking of "Terminator" and that great line you just pulled out there, John. Taylor Swift is known for being a terminator of lots of boyfriends and then singing about it. And she`s dated a Kennedy.
Well, what if a guy used lines from her songs as pickup lines? That`s No. 3 on our countdown of today`s top five Hits and Misses. A guy hitting on girls using Taylor Swift`s lyrics.
His name is Tommy Woolridge. He decided that it would be cool to see what would happen if he used the Taylor Swift lyrics to pick up girls and brought along a friend and a video camera to record the whole thing, play by play, put it up on the YouTube. Let`s watch how it plays out.
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TOMMY WOOLRIDGE, CREATED VIDEO FOR YOUTUBE: I knew you were trouble when you walked in.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why?
WOOLRIDGE: So shame on me now.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What?
WOOLRIDGE: I`m sorry.
Hey.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi.
WOOLRIDGE: Hi.
Marry me, Juliet, and you`ll never have to be alone. I love you and that`s all I need to know -- I mean you need to know -- I mean, I`m sorry.
I`ve been spending the last eight months thinking that all love ever does is break burn but on a Wednesday in a cafe I watched it begin.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
WOOLRIDGE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So? I`m kind of lost. I`m sorry.
WOOLRIDGE: Um -- is today Wednesday?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Today is Saturday, isn`t it?
WOOLRIDGE: Crap.
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HAMMER: Didn`t really work out for him. I`m not sure he had his approach down pat there, John, but you can`t blame a guy for trying. Hit or miss for you, John?
FUGELSANG: I`m going to let you finish, A.J., but Kanye West has the best lyrics for come-on lines of all time.
I -- you know, speaking of someone who once struck out at Lilith Fair trying out Indigo Girls on women the entire weekend, I would say it`s a hit, because when you can be this much of a loser but get this much time on HLN you`re doing something right.
HAMMER: Well, John, I won`t pass along the story of what happened at that same Lilith Fair with Jewel in the hot tub (ph). True story. I was there. But I digress.
FUGELSANG: My old B.J. (ph) buddy A.J.
HAMMER: You just count on me to bring those things up. Jewel lyrics can work well, though.
FUGELSANG: Oh, yes.
HAMMER: Sheryl, some guy comes up to you with the Taylor Swift lyrics just like that, would you just swoon? Hit or miss for you?
RALPH: Listen, this is a miss, baby, because if you`re going to hit on the ladies, please, at least get the lyrics right. Know what you`re going to say. I mean, he couldn`t even get through two lyrics. Come on now. Absolute loser.
FUGELSANG: I`m only here to hit on Sheryl Lee Ralph using "Dreamgirls" lyrics, A.J, by the way.
HAMMER: Well, that will have a certain effect. I believe that could probably work.
Seriously, John. I mean -- well, I was going to say a guy, but I`ll say a girl walks up to you and starts throwing around the Taylor Swift lyrics, are you going to swoon?
FUGELSANG: If a girl wants a guy to swoon she just has to come up to him and say, "Let`s go."
HAMMER: Right.
FUGELSANG: It doesn`t really work that way.
HAMMER: May the swooning begin. Well, Sheryl, John, that leaves us at No. 2 on the SHOWBIZ Countdown of our top five Hits and Misses. Will it possibly be Honey Boo-Boo`s quite bizarre media tour or will it be color me pink? Look at that. That`s a strong hue. First lady Michelle Obama and Ann Romney both think pink at last night`s debate. A lot of people are judging that today. Hit or miss. Who will be No. 1? We`ve got that big reveal coming up in just a moment.
Also ahead, what do a missing cat, pee and actress Gina Gershon all have in common?
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GINA GERSHON, ACTRESS: You must urinate in a jar and dribble it in the -- get down on the ground and see the world through feline eyes, and leave trails so he can find his way home by smelling you.
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HAMMER: OK. I guess that kind of makes sense. There you have the beautiful Gina Gershon talking about her pain-staking plight to find her cat. This is a tale that animal lovers everywhere will definitely instantly connect with, but it will also have you asking yourself what extremes would you go to for your beloved pet?
This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT and our SHOWBIZ Countdown of today`s top five Hits and Misses.
And here`s where we are. At No. 5, Bristol Palin bails after being booted. Bristol blows off the media after being eliminated from "Dancing with the Stars" last night.
And No. 4, Arnold Schwarzenegger memoir a total flop in sales, not even mediocre. Total flop. A measly 21,000 copies were sold in the book`s first week out.
And No. 3 a guy hits on girls using Taylor Swift`s lyrics and posted it on YouTube for all the world to see. He didn`t do so well, but I give him credit anyway.
So here we are now at No. 2 on the SHOWBIZ Countdown. We`ve really got to give it to reality show star Honey Boo-Boo for her just finished bizarre media tour. This thing was strange. You`re going to want to watch this very closely. We did a little mash-up. Our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT producers put together a bunch of the appearances of the precocious 7-year-old as she tried to sit down and give interviews, but here`s how it went.
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KIMMEL: I looked it up, because I was curious to compare.
Are you a "Star Trek" fan?
I looked it up and I was interested in...
JUNE THOMPSON, REALITY TV STAR: We found the Democrat. We didn`t know anything about that. Don`t have a camera.
KIMMEL: You`re looking at yourself on television.
J. THOMPSON: Yes. She did it at KCLA this morning.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is your life different now?
J. THOMPSON: Not really. A lot of money is sent to -- is sent for the girls.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are close to that train track. How close is that train track?
J. THOMPSON: Probably 100 feet.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would you ever move?
J. THOMPSON: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who`s the boss?
J. THOMPSON: Sugar Bear.
Who`s the boss in the house?
ALANA THOMPSON, REALITY TV STAR: Waaa! Waaa! OK. Who wants to get married with me?
J. THOMPSON: Nobody.
A. THOMPSON: Who wants to get married with me?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not after that.
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HAMMER: What? Look, somebody give that girl some more Mountain Dew, please, or maybe a nap. I don`t know. You know, here`s the thing. People love to watch her show. This is the kind of thing that makes Honey Boo-Boo so appealing and so endearing to so many millions of people, Sheryl, and she is just 7 years old. So was this a hit or was it a miss?
RALPH (singing): Oh, I don`t know. I don`t know. Who wants to marry me?
(speaking) I`m telling you, I love Honey Boo-Boo. I`m telling you that girl can never go too far, but she`s going very far in these United States of America. She is our new Shirley Temple, and everybody, they just love them some Honey Boo-Boo, sugar.
This girl is going someplace, baby. Folks love her. They`re glued to her every move. But like you said, too much honey dew, mommy. Too much. Pull back on the sugar.
HAMMER: Maybe we should call it Honey Dew-Dew. That doesn`t work.
FUGELSANG: Oh!
HAMMER: Sheryl, do me a favor, though. Do the rest of the segment in the Honey Boo-Boo impersonation voice.
John, what about you? A boo-boo for Honey Boo-Boo? Hit or miss?
FUGELSANG: Well, I would say it`s probably a hit for the network PR department and a miss for human evolution.
I do think that one of the reasons the show was so huge in the Bible Belt is it`s the greatest evidence yet that Darwin may have been completely wrong about everything.
When you have to have subtitles for English-speaking people, you`re onto -- you know, Thomas Jefferson, A.J....
HAMMER: Yes.
FUGELSANG: ... he said Americans get the government they deserve. I shudder to think that we get the reality TV we deserve.
HAMMER: Oh, we do, John. We do.
FUGELSANG: Poverty is a spectator sport. It`s pretty hilarious stuff. Although I do look forward in ten years when Honey Boo-Boo marries Lil Wayne. That will be a great show.
HAMMER: I don`t see that happening.
RALPH: Honey Boo-Boo and Lil Wayne?
HAMMER: That takes us to No. 1 on the SHOWBIZ Countdown of top five Hits and Misses, pretty in pink.
Well, look at this. The First Lady and the lady who wants to be the First Lady. Heads were turning last night. Who couldn`t help but notice this at the presidential debate? Both Michelle Obama and Ann Romney, both chose pink to wear. Everyone debating today who wore it better. Sheryl, praise for the ladies in pink? Hit or miss.
RALPH: Listen, I love that pink so much I had to put on some today. Both looked great, of course. Michelle looked so much better but, you know, I love FLOTUS, our First Lady of the United States. But more power to the pink women. Probably that`s the only thing those two women have in common.
RALPH: The color pink.
HAMMER: First prize to FLOTUS.
All right. Cheryl Lee Ralph, John Fugelsang, great to see you both. Thank you so much.
We move now to a chiseled jaw, bulging biceps, abs of steel. Yes, tonight I`m going to introduce you to a real-life Ken doll. Well, that`s who this guy would like to be. You`ve got to see his extreme plastic surgery obsession. Ninety procedures to look like Barbie`s man.
Plus, the secrets behind how Kris Jenner reportedly ended the extreme difficult deal to get Khloe Kardashian on "The X Factor." It`s an extreme showdown in our explosive SHOWBIZ Countdown, Going to Extremes. But which one will get to No. 1.
This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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MITT ROMNEY, (R) PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I went to a number of women`s groups and said, "Can you help us find folks?" And they brought us whole binders full of women.
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HAMMER: And the Twitterverse went crazy. First Big Bird and now this.
Governor Romney tries to explain his hiring practices during the second presidential debate, and it sends the on-line joke machine into overdrive.
You`ve got to see how some of your favorite movies actually got sucked into this binder full of funnies. So just how big is this "binder full of women" explosion today? @RomneysBinders, the Twitter feed has more than 33,000 Twitter followers right now. There are at least half a dozen "binders full of women"-related Facebook pages and, of course, memes aplenty. So let`s check out some of them right now.
You remember this classic scene from "Say Anything." Here John Cusack is holding up binders instead of a boom box. How appropriate.
Then how about this one? Patrick Swayze`s infamous quote from "Dirty Dancing" gets a twist: "Nobody puts Baby in a binder."
This one`s my favorite, though. I saw this online today. Austin Powers Goldmember: "Get in my binder."
Mario Armstrong is HLN`s digital lifestyle expert. He joins me now from Atlanta.
MARIO ARMSTRONG, HLN DIGITAL LIFESTYLE EXPERT: Get in my binder.
HAMMER: How perfect is that. Look, Big Bird was an obvious connection. Why do you think there`s such a Hollywood connection here with the whole binder mania?
ARMSTRONG: Well, I mean, the thing is this. Look, the idea is the minute the social community heard those words, I don`t care who said it, the moment it happened the Twitter just went -- Twitter explosion took off. Facebook pages happened, Internet domain names for Web sites were done.
But then you started seeing the images. Animated GIFs and these still photographs of celebrities and people we know in Hollywood. And we all know Hollywood and social media go hand in hand. Hollywood and technology go hand in hand. So I wasn`t surprised at all that people would start using this imagery to really start having fun with these really weird choice set of words.
HAMMER: Yes. I was amazed how quickly it happened, though. Because I`m watching the debate. I had my laptop open. And I watched it trend on Twitter instantly. As soon as he said it I said, "Oh, boy, here we go."
And I even went over about five minutes after he said it to BindersFullofWomen.com to see if somebody had snatched it up. In fact, somebody bought it already.
So what do you think -- what do you think is a tipping point that makes a seemingly random, you know, albeit silly comment. What do you think it makes it light up social media so quickly?
ARMSTRONG: I think anything that just sounds kind of out of the ordinary in its context. You`re talking about a political debate here. You`re talking about serious issues. Everyone knew that it was very important for Mitt Romney and President Obama to really talk about women. That was a heavy, heavy focus, and everyone knew that was coming.
So for this kind of comment to come out in that context and then to have someone like Candy Crowley, the first female moderator of a presidential debate. This was all about women, and to have that comment come out you just couldn`t -- you just had to know. Forty thousand tweets in the first 90 seconds took off, A.J. Can you believe that?
HAMMER; It was just stunning to see. It was amazing, as I said before how quickly it happened, and quite frankly, I cannot wait for "Saturday Night Live" to have at it.
Mario, thank you so much. Great to see you, man.
All right. Coming up, here`s something we can all relate to, the heartache over a missing pet. Would you follow actress Gina Gershon`s extreme advice to find it?
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GERSHON: You must urinate in a jar and dribble it in -- get down on the ground and see the world through his eyes and leave trails so he can find his way home by smelling you.
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HAMMER: That`s not all. There`s plenty more. This is going to have you asking yourself what extremes would you go to for your beloved pet?
Plus extreme plastic surgery to look like a Ken doll. Look at this guy. This man says he`s had over 90 procedures to look like Ken. But which extreme star story will be No. 1? It`s our SHOWBIZ Countdown, Going to Extremes.
This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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GERSHON: You must urinate in a jar and dribble it -- get down on the ground and see the world through his eyes and leave trails so he can find his way home by smelling you.
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HAMMER: Right now on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the SHOWBIZ Countdown, Going to Extremes. Gina Gershon uses her own urine to find her cat. Would you do that? Would you go to that extreme for your pet? And Khloe Kardashian nabs a gig co-hosting "The X Factor." Did her mom, Kris Jenner, go to the extreme to strike a last-minute deal? Which extreme story will top the SHOWBIZ Countdown, "Going to the Extremes" tonight?
Plus, the mastermind behind "Two and a Half Men" is here. What does Chuck Lorre think of Charlie Sheen a year after Sheen`s meltdown got him fired from the show?
Chuck Lorre, right here in a must see headline making SHOWBIZ News Maker interview.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues right now.
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Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer with the SHOWBIZ Countdown, Going to Extremes. Let`s fired up!
At number three, Kris saves the day. Ultimate momager Kris Jenner doing what she does best has reportedly singlehandedly just sealed the remarkable new TV deal with daughter Khloe. Khloe Kardashian has just officially become a new co-host of Fox`s hit reality competition show, "X Factor." She is going to be working side by side with Mario Lopez, who is also the host of "Extra."
Now, according to TMZ, this was a battle to the end with the E! Network, home to the Kardashian reality show, and FOX, home to "The X Factor," unable to come to an agreement about how to divide Khloe`s time. Negotiations came to a grinding halt. Well, that`s when Jenner reportedly took extreme measures to force sit down with both networks the finally get the deal done.
Now, of course, we have all seen Khloe keeping it real alongside sisters, Kim and Kourtney on the Kardashian`s hit reality TV show. But, think of it, this really marks a major turning point with Khloe becoming the first to take on a reality TV gig that has nothing to do with the Kardashian family.
Let me bring in comedian, John Fugelsang. He hosts the all new, "So That Happened." It can be seen Friday nights on Current TV. With me from Hollywood, actress Sheryl Lee Ralph, also an author, and we cannot wait to check her out in the new starring role she is doing on the season two of NBC`s "Smash." We are so happy about that, Sheryl.
But John, I`m starting with you. Now, look, my fellow TV host, Khloe, has never been a TV show host. She doesn`t have live TV experience. Can you believe that Kris Jenner actually pulled this deal off? This is a national network TV show.
FUGELSANG: Kris Jenner managed to completely emasculate one of the greatest Olympic champions of all time on a reality show so I think she can do whatever she sets her mind to do. And I`m thrilled that now "The X Factor" will have one cast member who doesn`t lip sync. So that will be exciting to watch.
HAMMER: Yes, there you go. I don`t think they have a lot of lip syncing, to be honest with you.
FUGELSANG: Not on that show, no. I`m talking about the famous judge.
Yes. But, I think it`s great, you know. I mean, that where people become rock stars from a game show and she gets to be famous for reading prompter after being famous for shopping. So --
HAMMER: Perfect.
FUGELSANG: It is a quintessential American experience.
HAMMER: Hopefully she can pull it off. And the deal really may have come as a surprise to the rest of us. I mean, we really didn`t see this coming and then all of the sudden it is announced and we`re like oh, really?
But it wasn`t such a surprise for Khloe, because long before she was "The X Factor" co-host and before this deal even came in to the works, Khloe and her husband, Lamar, told Access Hollywood that, you know, Kris Jenner can pull off just about anything at all. Let`s watch.
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KHLOE KARDASHIAN, CO-HOST, "THE X FACTOR": We talk to each other about business and we throw ideas back at each other. I mean my mom we treat the same way - I mean, she has her hands on everything we do or her blessing, if she is not fully involve ed. And that`s the great thing. We all love giving advice and even my sisters. Like, you know, we all know what our strength are -- so, if one has strength in another area, we are very -- we are each other`s biggest fans.
LAMAR ODOM, KHLOE KARDASHIAN`S HUSBAND: It is good to have Kris there to execute. If you have an idea or you have something that you can make happen, she can finalize.
KARDASHIAN: She can. You tell her you want the clouds and she will hand them to you. Somehow she knows how to do that.
ODOM: Whatever it takes.
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HAMMER: You know, I`m hearing them talking but all I see is her playing with her hair. That`s all I really knew was going on.
FUGELSANG: Can Kris Jenner get Lamar a new NBA deal and a ring maybe, because that would really impressive.
HAMMER: That would be impressive.
Let me remind you, by the way, it was just this year that Kris also pulled off that reported $40 million new reality deal for the entire Kardashian family. She is wheeling and dealing. And we can`t argue with that, Sheryl.
So with Khloe`s new venture in place, do you think that maybe, I don`t know, we are going to see the Kardashian sledding their own brand and moving to other things like Khloe is doing?
RALPH: You know, if it is not broken, why fix it? Actually that Kris Jenner, more power to her. I play a momanger on "Smash," and if I am half of the momanger that she is for my little girl there, Miss Hudson on "Smash", baby, we are doing big things. You heard that daughter say my mom can bring the clouds to me if I ask for it. Oh my God, what more could a mother ask for. You better work it, Kris Jenner, you are doing something spectacular.
HAMMER: And there you have, life imitating art, right in front of our very eyes.
So, a lot of "X Factor" fans apparently shocked to see Khloe stepping in as the co-host of the show. I want to show you this brand new result from out SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s exclusive poll. Here`s what we asked in our poll.
Khloe Kardashian to co-host "The X Factor". Is she a good choice? And look at these results. Only 18 percent of the people said yes -- 82 percent, that`s pretty overwhelming.
And John, as you said, no. Do you agree with the majority, my friend?
FUGELSANG: No, I do. And I think, having someone who can come out and read prompter without tripping is great, and I think she is capable of doing that. Those are very mean poll respondents. I got to say, if you are making defend the Kardashians, something is really wrong here.
HAMMER: Bad poll respondents.
FUGELSANG: Evil poll respondents.
HAMMER: We are happy people participate in the poll.
Well, let`s move in from one extreme save to another. That takes us to number two on the SHOWBIZ Countdown, Gina`s cat quest.
Actress, Gina Gershon has released a book all about the intense search to find her cat, Cleo. This happened 10 years ago. Gershon just appeared on the "Jeff Probst Show" sharing brand new unbelievable details of her extreme search, including how she actually went to the extreme of hiring a psychic to find the cat. Let`s watch.
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GERSHON: She is like, darling, you know, this is what you must do. You must urinate in a jar and dribble it and get on the ground and see the world through Cleo`s eyes and leave trails so he can find his way home by smelling you. "It`s like what?" I said, you know, but, it makes sense on an animal level.
JEFF PROBST, HOST, "JEFF PROBST SHOW": So you are so in love and dedicated to finding Cleo.
GERSHON: Yes.
PROBST: That you take your own urine and you put it in a little bottle and spread it around with an idea that doesn`t sound crazy to me that maybe if Cleo wanders through he will recognize your scent.
GERSHON: And leave a trail all the way home.
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HAMMER: All right, look. Hey, I`m thinking a lot of pet owners out there are cheering Gina on. Because, quite frankly, losing a pet is like losing a family member. However, some people might think what she did is crazy.
And Sheryl Lee Ralph, I was watching your face as you watched Gina. But really, who gets the last laugh here? The cat came back.
RALPH: I love the fact that the cat came back, but the mere thought she went to someone that speaks like this and says get on the ground, then pee and leave a just trail of pee for the cat to find you. The imagery in my head is, my God, did she what, just lift up her leg and leave a trail? You should be peeing on the tree here for a cat to find her. It is just way too much, way too extreme, and I love this Gershon woman. I`m just like, whoa. Then he said to her, "It wasn`t too crazy to me." Who`s out there peeing on trees?
HAMMER: See. I wasn`t thinking of how she left the trail of pee, Sheryl, and now I am. But I didn`t really need to do that. Thank you so much.
FUGELSANG: I just want to say, I am glad she didn`t lose the cat in New York City where everyone urinate on the street. God knows what would happen.
HAMMER: I know. The cat would have never come back in that case. I mean, really, think about it. There is just pretty much pee everywhere you walk here.
Listen. If you were surprised about Gina`s cat search, wait until to get a load of the number one in out SHOWBIZ Countdown Going to Extremes: the human Ken doll.
This is a New York man who was found a new love in plastic surgery, nipping, tucking, sculpting just about every inch of his body. He is 32 years old. His name is Justin Jedlica and he just told ABC`s "20/20" it is fun to go under the knife. Let`s watch him together.
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JUSTIN JEDLICA, HUMAN KEN DOLL: I love to really methamorphisize myself and the stranger the surgery the better.
FEMALE REPORTER: Really?
JEDLICA: Yes. Bucking the norm is so much fun.
FEMALE REPORTER: Over the past decade he`s had dozens of surgeries.
JEDLICA: I have had cranial browbone shaves, cheek augmentation.
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HAMMER: John, are you looking at this guy and feeling inspired to do a little nipping and tucking?
FUGELSANG: Oh, yes, right away. I hope he doesn`t go all the way for the full Ken doll surgery, A.J., because that is something no man should undergo.
HAMMER: You know what? I`m going to leave it there. I know exactly what you are talking about.
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HAMMER: If you have ever undressed a Ken doll, you do too.
Sheryl Lee Ralph, John Fugelsang, thank you. And I`m not saying I have ever done that.
Coming up next, he is the mastermind behind the best sitcoms on TV. Tonight, we are one on one with the man behind "Two and a Half Men."
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t care what you do during the week, but on the weekends, you need to remember you are a role model for an 11-year-old boy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s a bad idea. Who thought of that?
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HAMMER: He survived a showdown with Charlie Sheen. But has Chuck Lorre buried the hatchet with Charlie for good? What is the secret to his major sitcom success?
Chuck Lorre, right here. My must see SHOWBIZ News Maker interview with the great Chuck Lorre is next.
And Demi`s heartbreak. Is she really jealous over Ashton Kutcher`s new relationship with Mila Kunis? Details are coming up.
This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t care what you do during the week. But on the weekend you are a role model.
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HAMMER: There you go. Two of the biggest most successful sitcoms in television history, "Big Bang Theory" and "Two and a Half Men."
And tonight, right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, the legendary TV producer who created both shows. Tonight I`m so pleased that we have a TV power house in our house for an incredible showbiz news maker interview.
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HAMMER: Chuck Lorre`s hits over past 30 years, not only include "The Big Bang Theory" and "Two and a Half Men," but also, listen to this list, "Mike and Molly," "Dharma and Greg," "Grace Under Fire," "Civil" and "Roseanne," which is the show where he got his start.
But of course we all remember him facing off with Charlie Sheen in the huge public battle last year.
Chuck Lorre has now written this absolutely, fascinating book featuring his famous vanity cards that flash at the end of the shows. It is called, "What Doesn`t Kill Us Makes Us Bitter." All the proceeds are going to the Venice Family Clinic. It is the largest free medical clinic in the country.
Chuck Lorre, it is pleasure to have you here.
CHUCK LORRE, TV PRODUCER: Good to be here.
HAMMER: Thank you so much. The book is fantastic. I have always been a huge fan of your vanity card and you have been doing them for 15 years now, flashing up your mini rants, and essays and jokes at the end of every episode -- 400 of these cards over the years.
And if we can put this one up, this one from the very first time you ever did it. It appeared on "Dharma and Greg." And right off the that, as we highlighted here, you point out, "What doesn`t kill us makes us bitter," which you of course co-opted as the book`s title. I`m guessing that it kind of wasn`t a joke. What exactly did you mean when you said it the first time?
LORRE: What I meant was that I thought it was funny.
HAMMER: Very funny. And it`s true.
LORRE: Now, it`s what doesn`t kill us makes us morose, I think, would be more to the point. But it was a silly idea that just somehow kept going. And I kept expecting a network executive at some point to say stop it and no one ever did.
HAMMER: It`s funny. Because back then, of course, people had to record I guess on their VCRs and actually freeze the frame of the tape to in order to see it.
LORRE: It was very hard to do. So most people thought it was boilerplate. There is legal boilerplate mean, just --
HAMMER: Go ahead and ignored this
LORRE: So I got away with it for a while and then DVRs ruined everything.
HAMMER: That changed it, right? They really just ruined everything for everybody. But it is interesting how it progressed and how it kept on and then of course it was very interesting during the big drama with Charlie Sheen in "Two and a Half Men" to watch the things you were writing. You don`t know what I am talking about at all, of course.
But there is one particular card I want to put up that you wrote during this battle. It was right before he was fired. Of course, Charlie got canned from "Two and a Half Men" for all of that.
But you wrote, "I exercise regularly. I eat moderate amounts of healthy food. Make sure to plenty of rest. I see my doctor once a year and my dentist twice a year. I floss every night. I`ve had chest X-rays, cardio stress tests EKGs and colonoscopies. I see a psychologist and I have variety of hobbies to reduce stress. I don`t drink. I don`t smoke. I don`t do drugs. I don`t have crazy, reckless sex with strangers. If Charlie Sheen out lives m,e I`m going to really be pissed."
And I remember seeing that when we showed it on our show and I just thought, "Perfect."
OK. That was then. This is now. Charlie is having success with the show, "Anger Management." "Two and a Half Men" continues to have extraordinary success with its new lead in Ashton Kutcher. Are you at peace with all of that now and with Charlie?
LORRE: There was never a war or feud. I think that is a misperception. So we were all just concerned about the guy and he was going to hurt himself.
HAMMER: We were under the impression it was a very angry time between the two of you. So that you are saying that wasn`t really the case. It was just -- this the guy is going off the deep end and we have to look out for him.
LORRE: That was the intent of everybody on the show. He was very much loved and we were concerned about his welfare.
HAMMER: OK.
LORRE: And the cards were written to be funny. You know --
HAMMER: That was funny. I love that.
LORRE: You know. And the truth be told, that is probably what happens with every one of us. You know, you try and live a dissent, healthy decent life and get hit by a bus. So, the implications are try as you might it doesn`t really matter.
Well, you continue to have all of the success that I mentioned. Also "Mike and Molly," another show having enormous success, "Big Bang Theory" is doing just -- they are doing such incredible - they are doing incredible work for the show and it also having great ratings. How do you possibly balance all of that? I get the impression you don`t sleep much.
LORRE: No. You just - you run around like a mad person and try not to -- you try -- you rely on talented people, because it is a collaborative exercise just like what you do. Everybody has to work together. There`s no authorship here. It takes a great deal of many talented people to make this thing work.
HAMMER: Well, you do seem to thrive on it. We benefit by getting to enjoying it all.
Great to have you here, Chuck. Thank you so much.
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HAMMER: Be sure to pick up Chuck`s amazing collection of vanity cards, "What Doesn`t Kill Us Makes Us Bitter." You can get it online right now and all the proceeds go to the Venice Family Clinic.
And tonight, as we move on, is Demi Moore jealous over avenue Ashton Kutcher`s new relationship? Tonight, we go inside of Demi`s continuing struggle to the get over Ashton and why the heck they are not divorced yet.
This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Tonight, Demi`s heartbreak. Brand new details revealing Demi Moore`s ongoing heartbreak over her split with Ashton Kutcher. It has been nearly a year since Demi and Ashton split, but Demi is reportedly jealous over Ashton`s newfound connection with his former co-star Mila Kunis. It is the cover story of this week`s "People" magazine.
And joining me right now with all of the details in New York about Demi, Carlos Greer, a reporter from "People" magazine.
Let`s put that cover up again, Charles, can we? Because Demi Moore right here, as you put, it in this week`s "People" magazine: trying to move on. She is about to turn 50 years old. But Carlos, you also say, she is jealous and frustrated over Ashton. Now, is that because he`s moved on, or is it more because of who he has moved on with?
CARLOS GREER, REPORTER, PEOPLE MAGAZINE: Well, you know what, A.J., we talked to several people in Demi`s circle and some people say that she`s not that jealous, but others are not as convinced.
You have to look at it this way. This is a huge slap in the face. He`s out and about. They are very public. There are several photos of Ashton with Mila every week, kissing, holding hands and just being very public with their relationship.
HAMMER: It is wild, too. Because, just think about how long they have known each other. The show was around to so long ago originally. People unraveling a mystery of why a year later Ashton and Demi have yet to sign divorce papers. I have not understood that myself. What do you know?
GREER: Well, you know, Demi is saying that -- basically her side is saying that attorneys, it takes a long time with attorneys, whereas Ashton is still concerned about Demi and he is letting her get through her very public personal crises. So he is waiting for her to get through her issues.
HAMMER: I realize there is a lot of red tape and legal issues to deal with. But Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes, what was that, four weeks, Carlos? I mean, come on.
GREER: This is different. Demi has had a very challenging and tough year. I mean, two months after she and Ashton announced their split, she was hospitalized for, you know what, multiple sources said was escalated prescription drug abuse. So, you know, this has been a very tough year for Demi.
HAMMER: So what do we know about how she is doing now after all of the health issues she had to deal with?
GREER: Well, again, a lot of people -- some people in Demi`s circle are saying that she moved beyond this, she moved past it. But a lot of people in her circle are also saying, no. They are very concerned about her. They are concerned about how thin she appears. They are concerned about her emotional well being. She is taking it day by day. So some days you get one Demi and another day a Demi not doing as well.
HAMMER: Well, we will continue to wish her the best.
Carlos Greer, I thank you. And be sure to pick up your copy of "People" magazine. It is on newsstands, Friday.
Tonight, what would you do, an elderly man steal something right in front of you? Would you say something?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like to many shoppers in the store this woman can`t believe what she is seeing.
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HAMMER: So, what would you do? We will show you what this woman actually did next.
This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Tonight, what would you I do?
Picture this: you are at a supermarket minding your own business when you spot a senior citizen stealing stuff right off the grocery store`s shelves. So do you run and tell the manager? You act like you didn`t see what happened? Well, watch now as John Quinones puts regular people to the test in that very scenario.
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JOHN QUINONES, HOST, "WHAT WOULD YOU DO?" (voice-over): Like so many shoppers in the store, this woman can`t believe what she`s seeing. She stares, apparently trying to make certain it`s the crime her eyes tell her she is. She hesitates and moments later confides in a bystander who happens to be one of the actors. But finally this shopper has seen enough and takes action.
QUINONES (on-camera): Did you feel bad having to do that?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would have with one thing. But when he started to take other things, I said enough.
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HAMMER: Well, would have said something. What would you do? We are going to be asking that question starting this Sunday night at 9:00 p.m. when "WHAT WOULD YOU DO?" comes here to HLN.
Well, tonight, a Zumba instructor accused of prostitution with 20 clients in her little black book, including her town`s mayor. Will her controversial lifestyle becomes a modern day scarlet letter? Dr. Drew finds out right now.
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