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U.S. Woman's Body Found in Turkey; Jimmy Lee Dykes Holds Alabama Boy Hostage for Fifth Day; "Blind Side" Player in Super Bowl; Study Says Men Should Do Manly Chores; Grand Jury Wanted to Indict John, Patsy Ramsey; Man in the Wrong Driveway Killed; Backstage at "Monday Mornings"
Aired February 02, 2013 - 17:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: As we go on the air, it is day five of a tense standoff in a small Alabama town where a military veteran is holding a five-year-old boy hostage inside an underground bunker after kidnapping him from a school bus. A community vigil just wrapped up. When we're live to Midland City, Alabama in just a few minutes.
Hello everyone, I'm Don Lemon. Thanks for joining us. Meantime, two other major stories we're following this hour. Both are overseas. Both have big impact here in the United States. We have new details on a deadly attack on an American embassy to tell you about. And in the same country, Turkey, an American woman who has been missing for several days, has been found.
But the news is not good. This is her, Sarai Sierra, she's a photographer from New York City, 33-years-old. Was traveling alone in it Istanbul and was last heard from nearly two weeks ago. Live now from Ankara, CNN's international correspondent Nic Robertson is there.
Nic, you have breaking news on this young woman's case. Tell us about it.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We do. According to semi-official state news agency, Anatolia agency, they say that her body has been found in one of the poorer areas of Istanbul. Her family are aware of this. The police are saying that nine suspects have been arrested in this case so far, but the police are also saying it's not straightforward. That they believe the location she was found in was not where she was killed. And according to our sister network, CNN Turk, they are saying that they're being told by the police that there are indications that she suffered stab wounds as well, Don. So there's still a lot to learn about this -- about her situation.
LEMON: Tell me more about this woman, Nick. What was she doing in Istanbul, and where do police stand in this investigation right now?
ROBERTSON: Well, the police and the authorities generally in Turkey have been incredibly active, trying to track her down and find out her whereabouts since she went missing on the 21st in January. She arrived in Istanbul on the 7th of January to spend time with friends, photographing sites around the city. She was due to go home on the 25th of January. Had called her family to say, I'm going to come home, surprise my sons, come home three days early.
She was expected to return on the 22nd of January. And it was when she didn't get off that flight that her family, her husband, brother, parents became alarmed, because she had been talking only to her sister the day before saying how excited she was about coming back. She was ready to come back. When her husband and brother came to Istanbul, they worked with the police, really there wasn't much they could do.
But the police here and authorities were very energetic, putting a surprising a lot of Turkish journalists, I have to say, by the effort that they put in to try to locate her whereabouts. Sadly, the outcome has not been good, Don.
LEMON: All right. Nick, you'll continue to follow that of course. Let's move on now to the U.S. Embassy suicide bomb that killed a Turkish guard yesterday. A group has claimed responsibility. Who did it?
ROBERTSON: Well, it's the DHKPC, also known as the revolutionary people's liberation party front. Marxist-Leninist Group. They say that they were responsible their statement doesn't really say why they specifically attacked the United States embassy. Now, in the past they have been known to attack a lot of Turkish government sites. But what we're -- what we have learned now in that statement is that they're accusing the United States of being responsible for killing people in Afghanistan and Iraq and Libya.
They're saying, the United States is supporting the rebels in Syria, that they're against that. And also saying the United States is getting too close to Turkey. This is a group that's been around since the 1970s. The last time they attacked U.S. officials was over -- was about two decades ago in 1991. So it is surprising everyone here right now -- Don.
LEMON: Nic Robertson, Ankara, Turkey. Thank you very much Nick on details on both of those stories.
Now, let's get you up to speed on some of the other stories happening today. Vice President Joe Biden is raising the possibility of direct talks with Iran about its nuclear program.
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VICE PRES. JOE BIDEN (D), UNITED STATES: We would be prepared to meet bilaterally with the Iranian leadership. We would not make it a secret that we were doing that. We would let our partners know if that occasion presented itself. That offer stands. But it must be real. And tangible. And there has to be an agenda that they're prepared to speak to.
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LEMON: Biden made the comments at a security conference in Munich today. Indirect talks with Iran had been unsuccessful and have stalled for months. Soccer season is kicking off in Egypt. But there is one important thing missing.
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Did you notice there, silence? No screaming fans. It's not that they don't want to be there. They're not allowed. Matches are being played in secure military stadiums. After 74 people were killed in a riot after a game last year.
If you believe what Groundhogs have to say, well, you may be able to pack up your winter coats soon.
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UNIDENTIFIED MAN: So ye faithful, there is no shadow to see. An early spring! For you and me!
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LEMON: Yes, it's Groundhog's day. And you heard it. The legendary Punxsutawney Phil did not see his shadow this morning according to tradition. That means spring is on its way. Keep your fingers crossed. And fellow weather predictor, Staten Island Chuck agrees with them, no shadow either at New York's Staten Island zoo. But there is at least one dissenting opinion. General Beauregard Lee did see his shadow this morning in Georgia, signaling six more weeks of winter.
I want to go to Alabama now where new information is hard to come by on what exactly is going on inside an underground bunker outside Midland City. Police say, a man that they have identified as Jim Dykes killed a school bus driver Tuesday, took a five-year-old boy hostage and is holding him inside that bunker. It is a tense standoff that police are trying to figure out exactly what to do.
Hostage negotiators there, as well, don't know what to do. It is an odd situation that they have been trying to figure out. Police are communicating with Dykes by way of a ventilation pipe, and they say they don't think the boy has been harmed. The community rallying around the boy's family.
Our George Howell is just back from a community vigil. George, what did you learn?
GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Don, you know, this was for the slain bus driver for Charles Poland. But it was also for this five-year-old boy. You know, everyone came together, praying for him. People obviously look at Mr. Poland as a hero. But together they chanted that this young boy that he's going to come out of the bunker.
In fact, I spoke, Don, with one woman who today talked to his mother. And she tells me that the family is obviously, you know, hanging on by a thread with all of this. But I did learn that they are getting constant updates. They're in constant communication with investigators as they continue to try to get this situation resolved on this property behind me -- Don.
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SHERIFF WALLY OLSON, DALE COUNTY, ALABAMA: He's also allowed us to provide coloring books, medication, toys, and I want to thank him for taking care of our child. That's very important.
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HOWELL: And that's one thing, Don. So we heard the sheriff there. We heard Wally Olson making a direct appeal, really, to Jim Dykes. And it raises the question, you know. Does Mr. Dykes have a television, does he have a radio, can he hear or see these messages? You do get the impression that they are trying to talk directly to him -- Don.
And, you know, we talked about the vigil. But what about the community? I mean, we see cars moving. Is life going on as normal, or is it a tense situation there?
HOWELL: You know, this really brings this community together. You know, people obviously look at Charles Poland as a hero. This is a person who they say tried to protect the students on his bus, and lost his life doing so. And as each hour goes by, Don, as each day goes by, it does become more tense here. Everybody just wants to see this situation resolved. We're talking about a five-year-old boy who since Tuesday has been held against his will on this property behind me. In a bunker.
We also learned, as you heard in that sound bite a minute ago, we know how Mr. Dykes is treating him. We know that there are blankets, we know that there is an electric heater. These are good things. They're also able to get the boy medications, crayons, coloring books and also toys we learned today. You know, that's what we're getting from investigators. They're tight lipped about the operation but at least giving us these glimmers of hope as they try to resolve this thing -- Don.
LEMON: Certainly not one of the oddest and most frustrating stories one of the, that we have covered in recent history. Thank you very much for that, George Howell.
New allegations of doping against New York Yankee star Alex Rodriguez. Was it part of a bigger doping ring in Florida? Next, we go live to New York for the latest on A-Rod.
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LEMON: New York Yankees' star Alex Rodriguez is denying new reports that he used banned drugs. A-Rod has admitted to using steroids in the past but says, he has been clean for a decade. The "Miami New Times" reported this week a Florida clinic supplied Rodriguez with performance-enhancing drugs.
Our national correspondent Susan Candiotti, she join me now from New York with more on this, Susan. It's very interesting. So, how is A- Rod reacting to the new report?
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Don. So, truly his lawyers, the Yankee slugger says none of this is true. But it's clear all this talk of PEDs and A-Rod are NGA, not going away. Reports that originated in the local Miami newspaper say, there is a diary from a man named Anthony Bosch who runs a clinic in Miami. And that diary allegedly has hand-written notes implicating Alex Rodriguez and other athletes with the use of performance-enhancing drugs. Other unidentified sources tell ESPN that Bosch personally injected A-Rod with PEDs at his waterfront mansion in Miami last year.
One time, Bosch reportedly got the boot when he had trouble finding a vein. CNN has been unable to independently examine the documents. Now we went to the clinic earlier this week, but it's been shut down. Through a lawyer, Bosch tells CNN, he did not treat nor is he associated with A-Rod or other named athletes. A-Rod's lawyers are also batting down the reports and call the documents illegitimate. They add this.
Alex is working diligently on his rehabilitation and is looking forward to getting back on the field as soon as possible. The third baseman is recovering from hip surgery. Don, as you said, A-Rod has repeatedly said he stopped taking performance-enhancing drugs a decade ago.
LEMON: I'm sure major league baseball has something to say about this, Susan.
CANDIOTTI: Well, you're right. Major league baseball says it's been working with the DEA on the problem in general, is aware of the Miami situation and is investigating. Now, the DEA won't comment.
CNN legal analyst Paul Callan tells me there is plenty here for authorities to look into.
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PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR: Obviously, if he's not showing up to play baseball because of a suspension they would have certain rights under the contract then to pay him nothing or considerably less money. But it gets complicated because of the multiple agreements in question.
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LEMON: Susan, the Yankees owe A-Rod millions of dollars. Could he lose that?
CANDIOTTI: Well, major league baseball collective bargaining agreement may prevent that. Now, if there's solid evidence, our analyst says that A-Rod's first concern would be a potential suspension from the league's commissioner. But that could still be a long way off, Don, if it happens at all.
LEMON: All right. Susan Candiotti in New York. Susan, thank you. I appreciate your reporting. She is the adoptive mother of one of the Baltimore Ravens' most important players. But you may know her from the movie "The Blind Side." She joins us straight ahead.
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LEMON: New York's former Mayor Ed Koch will be laid to rest on Monday in the heart of the city that he lived for. The always outspoken Koch died from heart failure early yesterday. He led the city for 12 years, bringing it back from the financial brink. And just last month, Koch talked with CNN's Piers Morgan about his gravestone.
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PIERS MORGAN, HOST, "PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT": You've made it. You've got the tombstone. We have a picture, I think, of it here.
There it is. "Here lies Ed Koch." So, you're in a unique position of writing or verbally espousing your own obituary. What do you say?
ED KOCH, FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: It's on a subway stop, too.
MORGAN: Is it really?
KOCH: It is the...
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MORGAN: What was the thinking behind that?
KOCH: It is the only operating cemetery in Manhattan. I wanted to be buried in Manhattan and the Trinity Church has a nondenominational cemetery, which is what this is, and it's the only functioning one.
The one down at Wall Street, you have to be incinerated. I don't want to be incinerated.
MORGAN: When you look at your own grave, something that very, very few people ever do, Mr. Mayor, what do you think when you look?
KOCH: Well, I want to tell you. I'm secular, but I believe in God. I believe in the hereafter. I believe in reward and punishment and I expect to be rewarded.
God gave me a very good hand to play over my 88 years. I have no regrets.
MORGAN: What have been your greatest achievements and your --
KOCH: Being mayor of the city of New York. You know, here I am 22 years out of office. I walk down the streets. People who were eight- years-old when I was mayor know me.
The motto that I had, "how am I doing?"
MORGAN: Yes. KOCH: Everybody knows that. And I first uttered it in 1969. New York, the people have given me so much. On my gravestone I say, I fiercely love the people of the city of New York.
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LEMON: Current New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg calls Koch an irrepressible icon who will, quote, "forever be part of the city he loved so much." Ed Koch was 88 years old.
Super Bowl Sunday is a special day for one mother, the mother of this man, Michael Oher. You might know him as the subject of the movie "The Blind Side" starring Sandra Bullock. We talked to Oher's mother about seeing her son rise to stardom of the field and the excitement in New Orleans.
The housing market is being called the comeback kid right now. In this week's "Smart is the New Rich," Christine Romans shows us signs of a real recovery and explains why 2013 just might be the year of the house.
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CHRISTINE ROMANS, HOST, "SMART IS THE NEW RICH" (voice-over): This is what a recovering housing market looks like. An inspector looking things over before a final sale. And open house where 92 different brokers stop by.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Look at this.
ROMANS: And home prices finally moving higher. In November, up 5.5 percent, the biggest gain in six years. And many experts agree, the recovery is just getting started.
STAN HUMPHRIES, CHIEF ECONOMIST, ZILLOW: Twenty thirteen should be a very good year for the housing market. We expect the spring selling season to be quite robust. We've got historically low mortgage rates with a 30-year fixed being well below four percent. We've got housing affordability which in most markets --
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Some sort of stool or something where you could sit there.
ROMANS: Those low mortgage rates are a boon for first time home buyers.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I think it's just the right time to buy right now.
ROMANS: And for refinancers.
This guy has refinanced twice in two years.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: If you can save even 100 to $150 a month, it seems worth it.
ROMANS: And you know it's real when the house flippers are back. LAURA ABBOTT, REAL STATE INVESTOR: I just love taking an old, ugly house and bringing life back to it.
ROMANS: As we approach the Chinese New Year, the year of the snake, sure, there's a long way to go. But Deutsche Bank calls 2013 the year of the house. Christine Romans, CNN, New York.
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UNIDENTIFIED MAN: In the middle of practice, Leigh Anne?
SANDRA BULLOCK, ACTRESS: You can thank me later.
This team is your family, Michael. You have to protect them. Tony here is your quarterback. You protect his blind side. When you look at him, you think of me.
MICHAEL OHER, BALTIMORE RAVENS LINEBACKER: Yes, ma'am.
BULLOCK: SJ, you're going to want to get this.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Wow.
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LEMON: A lot of people know Michael Oher as the subject of a popular book and movie "The Blind Side" but he's also a power house offensive tackle who helped lead the Baltimore Ravens to this year's Super Bowl.
Joining us now from New Orleans -- I can say that -- Lee Ann Tuohy as we've said the adopted mother of Oher portrayed by Sandra Bullock in the movie. And I said, I don't think Sandra would mind me saying that, you are much better looking than Sandra Bullock in that movie.
And then her son, her other son, Sean Tuohy, Jr. or SJ, is there with her, as well. So how are you doing, Lee Anne? How are you doing, SJ? Are you guys all right?
SEAN TUOHY, JR., ADOPTIVE BROTHER OF MICHAEL OHER: Can't complain. Can't complain being here at the Super Bowl.
LEMON: I know, I'm sure you guys are full, you're stuffed with food and with drink. So mom, which is more exciting for you? Which is a more exciting moment, the premier of the movie "The Blind Side" or Super Bowl Sunday?
LEE ANNE TUOHY, ADOPTIVE MOTHER OF MICHAEL OHER: Super Bowl Sunday. Not even a question. I mean, everybody has been asking me that. This is hands-down been way more exciting and fun, entertaining. And we've worked a lot harder to get here.
LEMON: Yes. The movie, it's Hollywood, but this is what your son worked for, right?
LEE ANNE TUOHY: Oh, yes. I mean, he has worked for this for I can remember when he would sit, you know, in the living room and practice his signature, I'm going to go to the Super Bowl one day. And that day is coming tomorrow. So we're really excited about it. And, you know, he is determined, dedicated. I mean, everything that you can possibly imagine that he has had to do to get to this point, he has done it. So he's ready. You know, he's not nervous. I, on the other, am a complete basket case.
LEMON: Well, I'm sure you're covering your nerves with eating some good food. SJ, you get to see Michael all of the time. You're in Baltimore, so you get to see him all of the time. And so you know how he's preparing there. So what has he been doing down in New Orleans all week to prepare for the big game?
SEAN TUOHY, JR.: You know, Mike, he's a pretty laid back guy. He will go about his normal routine no matter, you know, if he's in Baltimore, he's, you know, in Miami or he's the guy, you know. So, I think he has watched about 30 movies, I bet he's played 4,000 games of temple run and brick breaker on his phone. But I think he'll be ready to come tomorrow.
LEMON: So is that -- I mean, is he superstitious? Because you know New Orleans is all about superstition, voodoo and all that, so. Is he superstitious? Is that what he does before every game?
LEE ANNE TUOHY: No, I'm superstitious. I haven't even washed my underwear since we played at Denver. So, I'm the superstitious one. We're doing everything the same. I mean, everything. So -- and they think I'm all crazy.
SEAN TUOHY, JR.: That's because she is.
LEE ANNE TUOHY: It worked in Denver and it worked against the Patriots and it's going to work tomorrow.
SEAN TUOHY, JR.: It had nothing to do with the actual players at the game. It was 100 percent Lee Ann's superstitious and the players soon do anything.
LEMON: Mom and SJ, I mean, mom, did you realize that you said that you haven't washed your underwear, and SJ, do you realize your mom just said that on national television?
SEAN TUOHY, JR.: I'm not touching her, as you can tell. There is a little space in between us, so --
LEMON: I'm going let that one go. Lee Anne, I've got to ask you, on media day, Michael was asked about "The Blind Side" and he told reporters that he's tired of talking about it. Why is that?
LEE ANNE TUOHY: Wouldn't you be? I mean, when there is a major motion picture made about you and the number-one rated Netflix movie last year, number-one sports movie, surpassed rocky. When it's about you and you hear about it every single day, it gets a little old. Because Michael is focused on football. That's what he wants to do. He wants to play football.
This is his business, this is what he has worked for, what he has -- you know, tried to achieve to get to this level. And he's done it. And he wants to talk about football. And I'll tell you, another name, something I noticed, Nick Saban who's the coach of University of Alabaman, he mentioned to me a couple of months ago, he said, I've won several national championships, and I walk in a room and somebody asks me about that stupid movie. You know, the movie is great. We love it.
It allows us to go around and talk about the Michael Ohers of the world that need a forever family. We fully believe that you don't have to match to be a family. You can love someone that doesn't look like you. And that's right. We are humbled that we have that platform. But it's time to talk about football. Any reporter that asks Michael about "The Blind Side" is an idiot. If I were him, I would have said, go away.
And so, you know, let's talk about the Ravens. We're playing tomorrow, and we want to beat -- we are going to beat the 49ers. That's what we want to talk about.
LEMON: All right. I'm going to ask an idiotic question then. Did he have any issues with the movie and then we'll talk more about football. Did he have any issues with the movie?
LEE ANNE TUOHY: No, the issue that he had is with the analogy of him playing football. Michael was never that bad of a football player. John Lee Hancock wanted to show the world how quickly Michael closed this vast gap. And the best way to do was through the analogy of football. And he used that. And a little bit, you know, people took it and made their own stories, their own conclusions. And the only conclusion was that Michael learned an amazing amount in a short amount of time. And John Lee used football to demonstrate that.
SEAN TUOHY, JR.: And also, you're 16 years old. I mean, you don't want anyone looking back at you, you know, how were you at 16?
LEIGH ANNE TUOHY: Because you look like a nerd in that movie.
SEAN TUOHY JR: Exactly.
LEMON: I don't want people looking back at me a year ago or six months or sometimes six weeks ago. You're like, oh, my gosh, what was I doing?
Something you just said moments ago, you said that that you can love someone who doesn't look like you. A lot has been made about, you know, same-sex marriage. And you've heard what one Ravens player said and what San Francisco 49er player said. What do you think about gay rights this year during the Super Bowl? A lot has been made of it.
LEIGH ANNE TUOHY: Well, what part of talking football confused you?
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I said we're going to talk the football game.
There is a time and place to talk about that. We're playing in the Super Bowl tomorrow. Ask me what I think about Ray Lewis. Ask me what I think about Joe Flacco. These guys have been out there worked their butts off to get here. We have overcome every adversity. Everybody is a naysayer, you're not going to win. Every analyst for football says they picked us to lose. And we're like the little engine that could. We just keep on going on. And you know --
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LEMON: I understand that. I understand that. I understand. But there was a movie that was made about you --
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And you said that, you know, it was about loving someone who doesn't look like you. And the question is very simple, with all due respect. What do you think, with all due respect? It's been a big deal, this particular Super Bowl.
LEIGH ANNE TUOHY: Well, you know, I think that there's a lot of amazing kids like Michael that they don't care that they have two moms or two dads. They want to wake up in the morning and know that there is someone that loves them and that cares about them. And we get hung up on a lot of things that are not important. The important thing is to get the 400,000 and change kids in foster care in a forever family. And the important thing is to get a kid that is 17 and that we care for on a Monday, and he turns 18 on Monday night, and on Tuesday, we throw him to the curb and think that he can fend for himself. That's not right.
Our government has problems. It's a flawed system. And we need to take care of it. It doesn't matter if it's two dads that want to raise a child or two mothers. Let's just raise the kids. Let's get kids off the street. Let's have families stop sleeping in cars. That's what we need to do. But unfortunately, we address the things that are not important. And that's just, you know -- I've seen behind the curtain. And I know what can happen when you invest time in a child. And the kids don't care about who is investing the time. They just want someone to care about them.
LEMON: Leigh Anne, that is a great message. Thank you so much for joining us, and thank you for your candor.
Best of luck to both of you, Leigh Anne and S.J. Thanks again.
It is coming up now on half past the hour. I want to get you caught up on the headlines on CNN.
First up, breaking news on CNN. We can now confirm an American woman missing for nearly two weeks in Turkey has been found, and sadly she is dead. The body of Sarai Sierra was found in Istanbul. Authorities say it appears she was stabbed to death. The 33-year-old New Yorker was on vacation alone in Turkey.
In Mali, crowds cheered today when France's president arrived.
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LEMON: France's Francois Hollande thanked troops for lending an offensive against Islamist militants in northern Mali. This week's French troops freed the city of Timbuktu. Police there gave a camel to France's president to show thanks. France sent troops to its former colony at Mali's request.
Alabama's Dale County sheriff says the man holding a 5-year-old boy hostage in an underground bunker is offering assurances he is taking care of the child. Jim Dykes is communicating with police by way of a ventilation pipe. Dykes shot and killed a school bus driver Tuesday afternoon before taking the boy hostage.
It appears this photo is meant to shoot down skepticism. The White House released this picture of President Barack Obama skeet shooting in August. The president was asked if he had had ever fired a gun when he recently released his plan for tougher gun control laws and measures. He replied that he went skeet sheeting all of the time at Camp David, prompting skepticism by some Republicans.
Heads up, guys. You may think that helping your lady around the house could pay off for you if you know what I mean. But, careful. It could leave you, shall we say, alone.
And Dr. Sanjay Gupta takes us behind a preview of the newest medical drama that looks like it will be a big hit.
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LEMON: I'm sure wives and girlfriends love, love, love it when their man does some work around the house. But guys, here's a warning for you. It matters what you do around the house. If you do dishes, if you vacuum, if you do some light dusting, it might mean less loving from the lady. So there's your warning.
Jeff Gardere is here. He's a clinical psychologist.
So, wait a minute, Jeff. Guys who help out around the house get essentially punished in the bedroom?
JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Yes. It turns out a new study by the Center for Advanced Studies out of Madrid, using some data from a survey done back in 1999, are saying that gender-specific relationships where the guys are doing more of the sort of men work, such as paying bills, yard work, maybe changing the oil, these guys are getting more intimacy from their wives than the guys who are doing things, as you pointed out, such as vacuuming, doing the laundry, perhaps even doing the cooking.
LEMON: So why is it that doing certain chores around the house, why would it affect a couple's sex life? Is it because, I don't know, if you go out and mow the lawn and your lady comes home and you're doing the lawn with your shirt off, that's sexier than doing the laundry?
GARDERE: Well, perhaps. Maybe it's the testosterone that may be setting the ladies off a little bit.
I figured this one out, Don. I think what's going on, the ladies are saying, you know what, we can cover the cooking, the cleaning, the laundry. We do that better than you guys, because you guys are inept at doing it anyway. So what we would like for you to do is the heavy lifting. We would like for you to pay the bills. And so we will reinforce your behavior, get you to do the stuff that we don't really feel like doing by exchanging the intimacy. So it's a perfect conditioning or operant conditioning by giving positive reinforcement for doing the things they want them to do.
LEMON: But, Jeff, this is 2013. Not 1950. I thought we were supposed to bust out of those gender assignment -- out of those roles as society evolves?
GARDERE: We really should. I think the problem with this study -- and it seems to be a meta-analysis. What they did, it's a brand-new study, but as I pointed out, they used data from 19 -- I think it was '96. Almost, you know, many, many years old, this data. So I think because of that, the results are not as true as we want them to see.
But what it does speak to, Don, maybe we really are into the gender- specific traditional roles. We seem to talk a good game, but when it comes to following it up, I think sometimes, even though men and women are equal, we want men to do men things and women to do women things. I think we're stuck there, still.
LEMON: All right. Jeff Gardere, appreciate it.
All right, a driver pulls into the wrong driveway. Before he can pull out, he is shot and killed. Wait until you hear the homeowner's defense.
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LEMON: Inspiring story that will warm your heart. 14-year-old Cassandra Lynn wanted to help the environment and keep the people in her community warm this winter. She and some friends found a great way to do both.
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CASSANDRA LYNN, CNN HERO: When I was young, I heard about global warming and I knew there was a huge consequence for this huge problem. I got together with my friends and we found out that you could actually turn waste cooking oil into a biodiesel fuel.
Because many families in my own town couldn't afford to heat their homes, I thought, what if we could recycle waste cooking oil to heat the homes of these local families?
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LYNN: We made a difference. So can you.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We were just worried about keeping our kids warm and having heat and hot water. It was a major relief.
CASWELL COOKE, COUNCILLOR: I was trying to talk about bio-diesel and just could not get anywhere with it. So she came along and did it to get restaurants to recycle their grease.
LYNN: Our bill will promote the use of alternative energy.
COOKE: The fact it was coming from kids made it hit home a lot harder. The child shall lead them sort of thing.
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COOKE: She set the example for the town. And it's great that Westerly has a person we could be very proud of and tell the rest of the country, hey, look what we're doing on the shore.
LYNN: If everyone just gave a little something back and took a little time out of their day to do something for others, the world would be a better place.
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LEMON: For years, police tried to link John and Patsy Ramsey to the death of their daughter, JonBenet. Now we know the grand jury wanted to indict them. We'll ask our legal expert why that never happened.
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ANNOUNCER: This is CNN.
LEMON: A murderer is back behind bars after he just walked of jail in Chicago. Steven Robins was on the run for three days before he was captured last night. Police found him about 60 miles away from the jail. Robins was serving a 60-year murder sentence in an Indiana prison when he was transferred to Chicago to face a drug charge. Well, the drug charge was dropped, and Robins was supposed to return to Indiana to serve the rest of his murder sentence. But instead, he was simply just let go.
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LIN WOOD, ATTORNEY FOR JONBENET RAMSEY FAMILY: I think you had a grand jury that was likely confused. And perhaps could have had some of that confusion cleared up if John and Patsy Ramsey had been allowed to testify before the grand jury. They offered repeatedly to do so. But they were never allowed the opportunity.
(END VIDEO CLIP) LEMON: Obviously speaking about the JonBenet case. You heard it right that JonBenet Ramsey murder case is back in the news right now. Police still don't know who killed the child beauty queen. But we do know this, that the grand jury wanted to indict JonBenet's parents back in 1999. So why weren't they ever indicted?
So let's talk law and justice now with Holly Hughes. She is here, a criminal defense attorney.
Isn't it standard practice to go ahead and indict if the grand jury returns with what's called a true bill?
HOLLY HUGHES, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY & FORMER PROSECUTOR: Yes, in 99 percent of the cases. But bear in mind that the difference in proof -- OK, there's different standards here. When a grand jury returns an indictment, they say, oh, there's probable cause to believe a crime occurred. This case was so high-profile, and there was so much pressure, but what Alex Hunter, the D.A., at the time had to look at was, but can I prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these people were guilty. And even the grand jury investigator, after a year and a half of looking at the evidence, they didn't want to return a "murder- one" indictment. They wanted to return a "child abuse which resulted in death" indictment, because what one of the jurors said was, something horrible happened in the house that night. We don't know what. But they were the only ones there. So Alex Hunter had a tough decision given all the pressure. I think he made the right one.
LEMON: This case just sat and sat in the news.
HUGHES: Right. Absolutely.
LEMON: It was covered 24 hours. Some shows were created because of that case.
HUGHES: That's exactly right.
LEMON: You're missing the -- you mentioned the district attorney, Alex Hunter, said the evidence was not there. Explain the difference between getting an indictment and a conviction.
HUGHES: Right. Just what we're talking about, standard of proof. When you want to talk about, do you return a true bill, which is really an indictment, saying these are the official charges, right, you have to believe something happened. Is it probable cause? Is it more likely than not that these people did something? But when we get to a petit jury, the case where they sit in the box during a trial that we all know about, that standard of proof is much higher, beyond a reasonable doubt, not, hey, do you think they did something, 59-49 percent? Is it, can you erase every piece of reasonable doubt that these people did a crime? And what the district attorney said at the time was no, I can't.
Remember this. This was the murder of a child, a little girl. You only get one bite at the apple. If he had indicted and a petit jury, a trial jury said, we don't believe there is enough evidence here, they are acquitted. No one can ever go after them again for the murder.
LEMON: This case is of a certain generation because there are younger people who don't remember when we talk about it.
HUGHES: That's right. Yes.
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HUGHES: But if you Google it --
LEMON: If you Google it.
HUGHES: -- the little beauty queen murder will come up, yes.
LEMON: Yes, this is like the Casey Anthony case of our generation.
HUGHES: Of our generation. A little ways back.
LEMON: And the parents could never seem to escape it, even though they were never convicted of it.
HUGHES: Right.
LEMON: Let's talk about this case. It's happening where we are, outside of Atlanta. A man shoots and kills a driver who had pulled up to his house by mistake. The shooter, 69-year-old Phillip Sailor, said he was afraid it was a home invasion. The people in the car were looking to pick up a friend to go skating but their GPS took them to the wrong house. According to the police, the car was backing out of the driveway when Sailor shot and killed the driver.
So, Holly, is it reasonable to say that the Sailors -- I don't know -- that he was defending himself.
HUGHES: They're going to have a difficult road if they want to say he was defending himself. There's a couple of facts you want to look at, Don. Number one, these people never even opened the door of the vehicle. This is somebody pulling into the driveway. If you're in your house and you look out and you see an unfamiliar car, lock the door and call the police.
Now, you have a right to protect yourself but stay inside with your gun. This elderly gentleman, 69, went out there, waving a gun into the air, firing it, and asked these young people, who never even opened the door, are backing away -- and there is some evidence to suggest, because the tire marks show he was turning the wheel, he was exiting that driveway. He just shoots him in the head.
LEMON: Can you imagine?
HUGHES: And the folks in the car, his friends, say he simply rolled down the window to say, we're sorry, we're sorry, we're at the wrong house. And he gets shot in the head, a 22-year-old man. Bright future ahead of him.
This is not self defense. This is not defending your castle. If you were in your castle, stay there, lock the doors. If they get out of the car and hold a weapon, that is a whole different legal matter. But this, this is cold-blooded murder.
LEMON: All right, thank you, Holly Hughes.
HUGHES: Absolutely.
LEMON: Appreciate it.
If you're a fan of "E.R.", we have a show for you. The back-stage preview of a medical drama that looks like it may be a big hit. And it has a special connection to those of us here at CNN.
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LEMON: Ever wonder what happens when something at a hospital goes wrong? A lot of people may think a mistake happens and the story ends there. But TNT's new drama, "Monday Mornings," pulls back the curtain and holds the doctors responsibility.
The show is based on a book by CNN's very own Sanjay Gupta. He gives us a tour of the "Monday Mornings" set.
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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Welcome to Chelsea General.
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GUPTA: This is the emergency room, and it is a trauma center.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get out of my way.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Clear.
GUPTA: A place like this can get multiple traumas at once. This is the sort of place where they all end up, multiple trauma bays, lots of action in this area.
But you remember this. Dr. Tyler Wilson comes in with the entire team at Chelsea General to make it happen. That is what this hospital is all about.
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So it's a shooting day here at Chelsea General.
It is a single level set, as you might imagine. But there are ways that we can make it multiple levels. For example, elevator here that goes straight through. You go through the elevator, and you're on a different floor.
Are these real? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They could be. Anything could be real.
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GUPTA: OK. Anything could be real.
So, we go to my favorite place at Chelsea General, the operating room.
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GUPTA: This is an operating room that you're about to see where we can actually perform surgery.
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GUPTA: We wanted the entire room to be real. So nothing in here is out of place, nothing that doesn't belong. This is what a real operating room looks like.
This is a microscope that we used to perform surgery. The surgeons will be able to move this microscope all around, focus in on different parts of the head.
If I had to do surgery because somebody needed it on the set, I could do it right in this room.
But Chelsea General is like any other hospital, and sometimes complications occur. When they do, people are held accountable here in room 311.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right, let's get started, shall we?
GUPTA: This is the room very few people know about and even fewer people get to see. It is room 311.
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GUPTA: Our characters, you know, often sit in the same seats. For example, we have Ty and Tina, who will usually sit over here. You have Gato. He is a presence in the back of the room usually.
This is the place really where you never want to be if you can avoid it. There is literally this walk, where the doctors, here for the first time, they're the ones that are going to be in the hot seat when they come to this podium over here. See, it is a glass podium. People can really see their body language.
The only person who really sits in the same seat every time is Dr. Herding (ph). He is the boss. He's the only person who can see the entire room, and read everybody's expressions. That was critically important.
The ultimate goal of 311 is to make sure that we learn from mistakes. This is how medicine and science moves forward.
The worst thing of all would be that a mistake occurs, no one learns from it. Room 311 makes sure that doesn't happen.
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LEMON: "Monday Mornings," premiers this Monday at 10:00 p.m. eastern, 9:00 central on our sister station, TNT.
I'm Don Lemon. I'll see you back here in an hour.
"THE SITUATION ROOM" with Wolf Blitzer begins right now.
