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Oscar Pistorius Case Update; People Encourage Girls to Brawl; Google Holds HUD Glasses Contest; Fish Fraud in the U.S.; Museum of Bond Villains

Aired February 21, 2013 - 13:30   ET

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: Big change in one of the world's biggest murder cases in South Africa. This is the detective who was leaving the investigation into the Valentine's Day killing of Reeva Steenkamp. She's the girlfriend of Olympic star athlete Oscar Pistorius. Today that detective is out, replaced after the court learned about his own legal problems.

We'll go live to Pretoria South Africa our Robyn Curnow. Robyn, I find this extraordinary. This bombshell that this guy, the lead investigator of this murder charge had been charge - facing murder charges himself. How is that even possible?

ROBYN CURNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well it is. And it is. And the police seem to say that they knew about these charges for alleged murder, seven counts of alleged murder. They said they knew about it. You just heard the police commissioner talk to CNN. But they have obviously decided to remove him from the case. This is, I think, obviously a matter of credibility.

And just remember this is the same man, the same investigating officer who gave extremely weak, quite poor evidence yesterday in court, and I think for the prosecution they would no doubt like a stronger team which they've now got. The South African authorities putting their top detective on this case, a high-profile case, and many people are asking --

MALVEAUX: Sure.

CURNOW: -- why didn't they do it sooner?

MALVEAUX: Yes. I mean, how is it that they didn't know that this guy has been charged with murder before? Is that something that just kind of, like, went -- was swept under the rug?

CURNOW: No, they did know. I mean, this is the thing. This is a process. They say that the National Prosecuting Authority knew about this. Seven -- he shot seven times at a passing minibus taxi along with some of his colleagues. They say this took place while he was on shift, however. There and also talk -- there -- you know, this group of policemen were drunk. So, you know, this is something -- this charge was removed off the books and now is being reinstated.

It's all a bit confusing, I must say. But either way the man is no longer investigating the Oscar Pistorius case so that's obviously one extra sort of bizarre twist and turn in this already quite dramatic story.

MALVEAUX: And absolutely unbelievable. I mean, just day after day. It's almost like you just can't even make it up.

Robyn, thank you very much.

Of course Oscar Pistorius is still in jail. We're still awaiting another day to see just how long he's going to stay in there as they determine this to this bail hearing, this process.

Well, the brother of the victim in the shooting of Reeva Steenkamp says he hopes that Pistorius stays in jail. Adam Steenkamp talked to our own Jake Tapper.

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JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: What was your impression of her relationship with Oscar Pistorius?

ADAM STEENKAMP, BROTHER OF REEVA STEENKAMP: I had no bad indications whatsoever. I did not actually talk to my sister in any detail about Oscar at all. I mean, in fact, I didn't talk to my sister about Oscar at all. There was no indication that anything was bad. I mean we know Reeva. We knew Reeva. She was happy. And if Reeva was happy everything was OK.

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MALVEAUX: Adam Steenkamp talked to Jake Tapper. That was last night on "ANDERSON COOPER 360" telling him that he had never even met Pistorius.

We got shocking video showing two little girls fighting here, pulling hair, slapping each other. The worst part sounds like adults are actually egging them on. Showed up on YouTube. We've got new details.

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MALVEAUX: So the video is kind of shocking and it's not just because little girls are fighting. It is actually because you've got adults who essentially are egging them on. Watch.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Slap her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The hair pulled out.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just slap her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The hair pulled out. Slap her harder.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, don't hit harder.

(END VIDEO CLIP) MALVEAUX: All right. So we're watching this, you know. I mean some of it, you know, smacking, pulling hair, some of this we've, you know, we've seen before. But what is really strange and crazy about this is that you've got people, adults, who seem to be encouraging this.

Deb Feyerick, looking into it from New York.

What do we know about this video that's emerged?

DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Suzanne, the question is whether this rises to the level of child abuse or child endangerment. And that's what detectives from the NYPD Special Victims Unit are now investigating. They trying to figure out exactly what was going on and who was involved.

And it's disturbing not only that adults or maybe they were teenagers, they don't even know that yet, actually let this happen but one in one of them recorded it, then posted it online. And as you look at the video it starts with a face-to-face confrontation with the two little girls. And listen to those adults or those teenagers shouting to -- to have this continue, both of the children appear somewhat defiant.

The child in the black thinks that this is a play fight. And the adult says no, you were play fighting before. You're not play fighting now. Then the tone changes. You could see -- listen, grab her, grab her, slap her. The adults or the teens urged the girl in white to repeatedly slap the other girl which she does, grabbing her hair. Lasts for about 40 seconds altogether.

But the child in black doesn't fight. She is clearly in pain. She is visibly shocked that her friend is doing this to her and that the others are cheering for this to happen. She starts to cry. Now what you don't see is she grabs her backpack suggesting that perhaps this happened after school.

You know, and look at her there. She's in clear distress and later you hear her say, I'm not going jail, I'm not going to jail. There are other children around as this recording place. It appears that perhaps it was teenagers who were the one who were making this fight happen. A Manhattan Special Victims Unit, they're investigating.

They're first trying to figure out exactly where this took place. They're looking at the landscape. They looked into benches, the water fountain, even the vehicles in the background. But it is clearly so distressing and so disturbing and police could potentially file charges if they figure out who was involved in all this -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Deb, this is wrong on so many levels. Do we think that any of the adults who were there were the parents or these were people who just happened to be on the schoolyard? Do we have any idea?

FEYERICK: No. It's so totally unclear. And that's why detectives are trying to track it down. But again, it's one of those instances where something bad happens and then rather than have grown ups or adults intercede what ends up happening is you see the video that's posted on YouTube and that in it of itself is just fundamentally disturbing.

MALVEAUX: I mean, they're encouraging these kids then they're videotaping these kids and then they post it on YouTube of the video. I mean, it's just -- I don't even understand it.

Deb, please let us know if you get any details about this.

FEYERICK: Of course.

MALVEAUX: If they end up finding these guys.

If you love seafood, you've got to listen to this pretty fishy situation. Snapper tuna, you bought might not actually be the real thing. We're going to take a look at fish fraud up next.

And how does it feel to wear Google's new glasses? This is a company that has a new -- a video that gives you a glimpse at reality altering eyewear. That's right. It's the real deal. Right after this. But first a look at what Dr. Sanjay Gupta has coming up on "THE NEXT LIST."

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta. And this week on THE NEXT LIST.

DIANA ENG, FASHION DESIGNER: My name is Diana Eng. I like to work with electronics in fashion. And it's kind of what people stereotypically will think of as adding technology to a garment.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That is so clever.

ENG: I kind of integrated in a way where the circuit can become a part of the design itself. So I work with conductive thread which basically replaces wires.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, Diana, this dress has some magic powers?

(LAUGHTER)

ENG: No. It just -- it's the electronics and so it has some circuit boards over here and they have microcontrollers in there. So that's basically like a little computer and then there's a microphone over here. So the microphone kind of senses if there's sound and then the little computer over here will make these LEDs light up because they're all connected with conductive thread instead of wires.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cool.

ENG: I feel like as a designer I ultimately want to create products that people can relate to.

GUPTA: That's at Sunday on THE NEXT LIST.

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MALVEAUX: Google Glass wants to change the way you see the world.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right there. OK, glasses, take a picture.

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MALVEAUX: Wow. That's really cool. So those are special glasses that let you actually take pictures and you can look up stuff too but not just anybody can buy these.

I want to bring in our digital -- style expert, Mario Armstrong, to join us.

Tell us a little bit about Google announcing this contest to see who gets these special glasses and tell us what these glass do.

MARIO ARMSTRONG, HLN DIGITAL LIFESTYLE EXPERT: OK. So let's start what they -- what they actually do. These glasses are really the future here now.

MALVEAUX: OK.

ARMSTRONG: What these glasses will be able to do is be able to take video from the actual glasses as you mentioned, take pictures but also be able to do things like translate languages and they'll also be aware of where you are. So let's say, for example, maybe you're heading to the airport and once you arrive at the airport your itinerary or your flight information says hey, the plane is delayed or the plane is on time.

So these are like wearing a computer on your face, on your eyes. Over your eyes. And it's pretty intense what the capabilities of what this will bring. I can imagine even going out home shopping wearing these glasses and you look at a home that's for sale and outside of the home you'll be able to get images or information or data or even a video playing about the inside of that home through these glasses.

MALVEAUX: So that sounds kind of cool, Mario, on first blush. But could you not get distracted? Kind of, like, would it get in the way of real life happening if you've got videos and information popping in in your glasses all the time?

ARMSTRONG: You know, I think there's definitely some validity to that type of comment. But we already have things that we're trying to figure out how to do more than one thing at one time. I'm not suggesting that that's right or wrong but we're already using our phones, we're already putting on ear buds, we're doing a lot of these things already. So I don't really -- I think it's going to be a lot of common sense which is what you need today with a lot of these gadgets.

But I do think it's going to be much better than always having to whip out your phone. I much rather have a pair of glasses that would give me my information where I could at least still see things as opposed to looking down while I'm typing on something. MALVEAUX: All right. So how much are these glasses going for and what do they look like?

ARMSTRONG: They are $1500 is what the amount that's been put out there. Not everyone is going to be able to get these right away. They are running a contest as you mentioned. And I think this is smart. What they're trying to do is, A, build buzz, so they're accomplishing that. But two, get these glasses out in the wild with people who really want to do some interesting things with them to try to come up with all the different use cases for these glasses.

So you have to send in 50 words or less why you want a pair of these glasses through their Web site or through Twitter and then have the $1500, if you're lucky enough to be picked to actually pay for them.

MALVEAUX: All right. So have you already submitted your application?

ARMSTRONG: I've submitted like three. And I'm trying to come up --

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I have -- I'm going to have my brother, I'm going to have my mother, I'm going to have my wife, everyone submitting on my behalf. We're trying to bump a school goal for a pair of these because I want to be the first journalist that would actually wear these out in the field, compiling news reports, doing news gathering and even conducting interviews.

MALVEAUX: And some people do the skydiving thing, right? They put the glasses on and then -- can we see you in one of those? You can do a dive for us?

ARMSTRONG: That will be the one thing I won't do for you.

(LAUGHTER)

Although for Suzanne, I'll jump out of a plane. For you I'll jump out of a plane.

MALVEAUX: Mario, you said the right thing. All right. Thanks. Let us know how this goes. Maybe I'll submit an application for you, too.

(LAUGHTER)

All right. Thanks, Mario.

All right. Some people said cars, others might have said mass e- mails. But here's a kid who sent out a music video as his save the date. He's got a few celebrities as well to get in on the action.

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MALVEAUX: Take a look at this. A family in Sea Bright, New Jersey, preparing for the next big storm. They are rebuilding their home which was destroyed during Superstorm Sandy. The prevention plan raising the home 12 feet. So the home is going to be sitting pretty much above the other houses. Hopefully out of the way of any future flooding.

A warning for those of you who love seafood. The snapper tuna that you bought might actually not be the real thing. There's a new study that finds a third of a time you buy fish here in the United States you are not getting what you paid for. You are getting substitutions.

So some people are calling it fish fraud. This group Oceana actually spent two years buying fish from restaurants, grocery stores, 21 states, then got the DNA tested. Earlier I talked to eatocracy editor, Kat Kinsman, to tell us what fish is the most often mislabeled.

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KAT KINSMAN, CNN EATOCRACY EDITOR: Salmon lovers can rest easily because for the most part they were getting exactly what they thought they were supposed to get. But if they're ordering snappers, say, that was often being substituted for much less expensive fish, and if they're ordering tuna, it was often substituted for something called white tuna, which is a euphemism for something called escolar, which is also known as Ex-Lax fish on occasion. And --

MALVEAUX: That's not good.

KINSMAN: Yes. Unfortunate. And grouper was being sometimes substituted for something -- for other varieties of grouper that were over fished or on occasion other kinds of fish that were -- have been flagged for excess mercury.

MALVEAUX: So this -- this doesn't sound very good. I mean, I imagined that if you're not getting what you paid for but you're also being misled, there's probably something that's not quite right about the fish. Is that what they found?

KINSMAN: Well, 91 percent of the fish that we're eating in the U.S. is actually imported and that includes fish that was -- that was caught here and sent overseas for processing. That's a really, really long food chain and deception can happen along the way. You know, it can happen anywhere from the boats to somebody mislabeling fish at the restaurant.

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MALVEAUX: So, Kat told us how to make sure we get the right fish, you can always buy the entire fish. That way you know what you're getting or if the price is too good to be true for a piece of tuna or snapper, it probably is not tuna or snapper. So ask the seller questions about the fish like where did it come from, whether or not it was farm raised or wild.

Daniel Bloom is having a bar mitzvah, right? And instead of sending the traditional save the day, he invited guests with this. Very creative. Check it out.

He -- that's the video, of course. Parody of Ludicrous' "Welcome to Atlanta," changing the words to (INAUDIBLE) to his big day. He's got a lot of -- couple of celebrities in there as well, and of course well known places landmarks in Atlanta. Daniel turns 13 on May 10.

Happy birthday. Good for you.

And the Oscars saluting Bond, James Bond, but where would Bond be without all the villains? So if you can't wait until Sunday for your James Bond fix, stick around because we're coming up -- we're looking at 50 years of 007.

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MALVEAUX: Sunday night's Oscar ceremony will feature a star-studded celebration of Bond, James Bond, that is. But consider this would not be an iconic super spy in the longest running movie franchise in history without of course the super villains and their exquisitely evil schemes. Well, now a museum giving the road gallery its due.

Barbara Starr has the story.

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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Daniel Craig, 007 has battled evil for a half century. As this year's Oscars celebrate 50 years of Bond.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you expect me to talk?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die.

STARR: Here at the Washington, D.C. Spy Museum, it's Bond's enemies that are in the spotlight.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: James Bond. Allow me to introduce myself. I am Ernst Stavro Blofeld.

STARR: Bond villains were a creative bunch. Here you can find the steal teeth of jaws, Houston Moonraker.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His name is Jaws. He kills people.

STARR: The tarantula in Dr. No. The rope used to beat Bond in "Casino Royal." But it's more than just movie props. The exhibit, exquisitely evil, shows us how the villains changed along with the times. Museum director Peter Earnest is a former CIA covert officer.

PETER EARNEST, DIRECTOR, INTERNATIONAL SPY MUSEUM: When Fleming wrote the books and when he's on productions produced the film, they attempted to pick up on the things that were producing anxieties in societies like genocide or nuclear proliferation or terrorism or drugs.

STARR: Bond villains seemed to have one thing in common, causing mayhem.

(On camera): And that's what a lot of the Bond villains were about. Manipulating the world or controlling it.

EARNEST: Yes. Yes. Trying to -- trying to cause the super powers to clash.

STARR (voice-over): In the latest blockbuster "Skyfall," the villain Silva's weapon, the computer used in the cyber attack against British intelligence.

EARNEST: Can you recall in "Skyfall" that the villain, Silva, what he -- what he has, he has the names of all the MI6 agents who were around the world that -- and the pseudonyms they're using and the people they're employing.

DANIEL CRAIG, ACTOR: Everybody needs a hobby.

JAVIER BARDEM, ACTOR: So what's yours?

CRAIG: Resurrection.

STARR: Fifty years of Bond surviving evil. Exquisitely evil.

(On camera): Half a century of Bond, his women, his villains, and especially his cars. The Aston Martin, of course. Just consider this. Daniel Craig, the current 007, was born six years after Sean Connery starred in "Dr. No," the first Bond film.

Barbara Starr, CNN, Washington.

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MALVEAUX: Pretty cool stuff. That's it for me. Fredricka Whitfield takes it from here.

FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Thanks so much, Suzanne.