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Six Teens Killed in Ohio SUV Crash; North Korea: No More Cease- Fire; Christians Targeted in Pakistan; TSA Relaxes "Pocketknife" Rule; NYC Sugary Drinks Ban Begins in Two Days; Mouse Cloned Hundreds of Times; Preserving the Gullah Heritage
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Thank you, Fredricka. Have a great week.
I'm Don Lemon. You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.
We're going to start with this. Six teenagers were killed today near Warren, Ohio, when their SUV crashed into a pond. The SUV hit a guardrail and flipped over before landing in the water. The victims ranged in age from 14 to 19. Dive teams helped rescue two survivors. Authorities say the SUV appeared to be overloaded and no one was wearing a seat belt.
We go overseas now. If North Korea has followed through on its latest threat, then the Korean War cease fire agreement is no more. It's already Monday morning on the Korean peninsula, the day North Korean officials promised to wipe away the 1953 armistice that ended the Korean War with a truce.
North Koreans are angry that U.S. and South Korean troops are holding joint training exercises. North Korea has made similar threats in the past, but this is the first time under the new leader.
We're live from Seoul later on in this broadcast.
Growing outrage in Pakistan. Christians take to the streets in Lahore protesting a rash of violence targeting their neighborhoods. More than 100 homes were set on fire yesterday after a Christian man allegedly made remarks against a Muslim Prophet Muhammad. We're told many Christians have fled the area over fear being killed.
Could a long plane ride with Osama bin Laden's son-in-law be an intelligence windfall for the U.S.? The al Qaeda propagandist gave a 22-page long statement to investigators during his journey last week from Jordan to New York. The conversations confirmed by U.S. officials are expected to be used in the government's case to prove he helped conspire to kill Americans and recruited all al Qaeda members.
The agency in charge of airline security, the TSA, surprised everyone a few days ago, announcing that we'll soon be able to take pocketknives and other banned items on to commercial airplanes. Knives, bats, sticks -- thousands of them have been taken away from passengers at airports since shortly after the 9/11 attacks. Now, allowing them onboard again is not sitting well with people who fly for a living and some lawmakers.
Lisa Desjardins is all over this story for us. She's in Washington for us right now.
And, Lisa, even a U.S. senator says this is a bad move.
LISA DESJARDINS, CNN RADIO CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's right. This comes down to one very bad question, Don -- what should be the priority for the agency charged with keeping planes safe in our country? What's it even mean to keep planes safe?
Well, this weekend, two well-known lawmakers have said that by letting small knives on to our planes, the TSA is making things less safe.
The most recent: Senator Chuck Schumer. He's the number three Democrat in the Senate. He said it this way.
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SEN. CHARLES SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: Usually when a government agency makes some kind of ruling, even if you disagree with it, at least you see the logic. I don't see any logic here. I hear outcries from passengers about this. Almost no one has called my office and said, why can't I bring a sharp knife on an airplane?
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DESJARDINS: Now, of course, the TSA says the risk from shampoo and things like that is because of a possible chemical explosive. But Schumer points out that knives would pose a risk to flight attendants from passengers who carry them. This policy about the knives is supposed to go in place in a month and a half.
Schumer says if TSA does not reverse it, he will push a bill in Congress to force them to roll this policy back. Senator Schumer insists he can get bipartisan support for that.
What's the TSA say about this effort from Chuck Schumer? Well, we just got this statement in from the TSA. It says, "TSA's decision was driven by a threat assessment as part of our overall risk-based security approach." You see that there.
"We concluded that removing small knives from the prohibitive list would not cause catastrophic damage."
That is the key. The TSA is focusing here on catastrophic damage to the entire aircraft. Here's what the leader of the TSA said earlier this week.
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JOHN PISTOLE, TSA ADMINISTRATOR: The idea that if we have to look for and find and then somehow resolve whatever that prohibitive item is, that takes time and effort, and the key factor for me is that may detract us -- may detract us -- from that item that could be catastrophic failure to an aircraft, could lead to that catastrophic failure.
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DESJARDINS: So you get it there, Don. The TSA is looking at trying to prevent an explosion or a plane crash by a terrorist. But at the same time, lawmakers like Schumer, groups like flight attendants, they're worried about threats from knives to individuals on the plane -- Don.
LEMON: So the TSA says that they're doing this because they want to line up with international flights. So, is this -- this is not a complete return to pre-9/11 rules, I don't think so, because box cutters, the weapons used by hijackers, they will not be allowed on planes, will they?
DESJARDINS: Right, they will not.
And we heard Tuesday from the TSA that the reason for that, literally, the TSA administrator said that there is too much of an emotional connection to box cutters because of their role in 9/11 to allow them on the list, that they just have a particular sensitivity to that weapon.
And the administrator said he wishes he could have a more clean, across-the-board policy, but that box cutters will remain of the allowable list because of their role in September 11th specifically. He also said the reason they're doing this now, is that he did a threat assessment two and a half years ago that indicated this change should be made and he's making it now.
LEMON: Lisa Desjardins, thank you very much for that.
DESJARDINS: You got it.
LEMON: Newly appointed Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is facing his first big test. Relations between the U.S. and Afghanistan became even more strained today during Hagel's first visit there as Pentagon chief. Afghan President Hamid Karzai accused the U.S. of colluding with the Taliban. Karzai charged that the Taliban is working with foreigners in order to justify a continued American presence in the country.
A joint news conference between Karzai and Hagel was cancelled. Later, Hagel was asked about Karzai's accusation.
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CHUCK HAGEL, DEFENSE SECRETARY: We did discuss those comments. I told the president it was not true. That the United States was unilaterally working with the Taliban in trying to negotiate anything. The fact is any prospect for peace or political settlements, that has to be led by the Afghans.
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LEMON: Hagel and Karzai later met over dinner in an attempt to smooth over the dispute.
New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn has officially tossed her hat into the race for mayor. The Democrat is vowing to be an advocate for the middle class. If elected, Quinn would become New York City's first female and first openly gay mayor. Current Mayor Michael Bloomberg is expected to endorse her when he leaves office next year.
Britain's Queen Elizabeth will go on live television tomorrow and do something many people say is way overdue. First of all, it will be her first public appearance since spending a few days in the hospital. But here's what's making news now -- she'll sign a charter that spells out the core values for all nations in the commonwealth, 54 countries formally told that all forms of discrimination are a no-no. That means discrimination, gender, race, and -- depending on how you read it -- gays and lesbians.
I want to talk now to our royal correspondent, Max Foster.
Max, the question is, is this a stretch, though, that the queen may be taking a stand for gay rights for the first time?
MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: She's not using those words, that's the problem we've got here. This is the first time that the commonwealth has formed a charter, an essential document, really, defining what it really about.
The crucial bit here is that it states the signatures, those 54 countries oppose all forms of discrimination, whether rooted in gender, race, color, creed, political, and other grounds. It's that other grounds that people are suggesting and interpreting that as a sexuality. It's a delicate subject in the commonwealth because there are several countries where homosexuality is illegal still.
So, they've left the wording out, but they've left that sort of "other grounds" in there, which can only really mean sexuality and should be signing this document, Don, and saying a few words afterwards.
LEMON: Max, will you remind us about the commonwealth? Who are these countries and how bound are they to this charter?
FOSTER: Well, it's a charter, it's not a legal document. But it does define -- it's not a strategy document, if you like, a mission statement for the commonwealth, 54 countries. This was really set up after the British Empire started breaking down. And it's linking all of those former members of the British Empire, plus a few others who have decided to join. But billions of people covered by those countries, 54 countries, (INAUDIBLE).
So it is a very powerful organization. And there's a Commonwealth Games, similar to the Olympic Games, very popular event. And it does speak to English-speaking societies largely, but also other countries.
So it is quite powerful and she's the head of it. LEMON: Max, has the queen ever made her feelings public about gay rights? I mean, what will this charter do to further gay rights in Britain?
FOSTER: Well, there are -- there have been sort of gay rights campaigners in the U.K. already speaking about this. Some of them are annoyed that she's not talking about gay rights. And others are saying actually, it's a step in the right direction. It's a big step really, because she's never talked about gay rights in the past before.
But she is going to be speaking tomorrow, and I do understand that she's going to say something about this charter includes everyone. And without saying gay rights, she's probably going as far as she can sticking up for that part of society. She has done so for religious groups before, and gender. She hasn't done it yet specifically on gay rights, but I do think it's largely down to the problem that some of the countries here have laws against homosexuality, so they're not going to sign up to something which is so specific.
LEMON: Max Foster, thank you very much.
Former South African President Nelson Mandela is out of the hospital. The 94-year-old anti-apartheid leader and Nobel laureate returned home today following what the presidential office called a scheduled check-up and overnight stay. Mandela has grown frail over the years and rarely appears now in public.
New York Congressman Peter King is known for his fighting words and bare knuckle words on Capitol Hill. But this weekend, he literally strapped on some boxing gloves and jumped into the ring to take on a kickboxing champion. We'll show you how this all plays out. That's next.
LEMON: A number survey finds the number of American households with guns has dropped over the past four decades. It has continuously fallen since the 1970s from a high of 50 percent to 32 percent in 2010. Researchers say a 2 percent rise from 2010 to 2012 is not significant statistically. The results may be surprising to some of you given the recent spike in gun sales.
Let's point this out, though. These numbers come from a public opinion survey where people answer yes or no to whether they own a gun, and the survey tracks households, not the number of guns one person may own.
A congressman known for putting up his dukes on Capitol Hill stepped into a real ring for some real rope-a-dope last night.
There he is, that is New York Republican Peter King. He says he likes to box. He's been training for several years. So last night on Long Island, he put on some gloves and went toe-to-toe with a kickboxing champ almost 40 years younger than him. Congressman King is 68 years old, 230 pounds. He wears no headgear and threw hands pretty aggressively for two rounds. King said they really went at it. No sparring. But it was just an exhibition.
Nice going. Always rooting for the old guy.
A Republican senator stages a filibuster, angering GOP colleagues but delighting some liberals. If that weren't strange enough, President Obama is suddenly launching a charm offensive with his congressional opponents, even taking them out to dinner.
What's going on in Washington? Everything is upside down. Inside out. I don't know. Everything right is left, left is right.
Let's talk about it now with CNN contributors Ana Navarro and Van Jones. Ana, of course, is a Republican strategist. Van is a former Obama White House official.
So, guys, the reaction to Rand Paul filibuster was as fascinating as a filibuster himself. People like -- organizations like the ACLU, Code Pink, and even Jon Stewart praised his day-long protest of drones, the drone policy. But then, fellow Republicans like John McCain and Lindsey Graham criticized him.
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SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: I don't think that what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people. But somehow, to allege that the United States of America, our government would drop a drone hellfire missile on Jane Fonda, that is -- that brings the conversation from a serious discussion about U.S. policy to the realm of the ridiculous.
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LEMON: My first thought was, who are you and what have you done to John McCain?
I assume that you are fine with Republican senators targeting each other. But some liberals also agree with Rand Paul. Is he exposing a divide on the left about this president's anti-terrorist strategy?
VAN JONES, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, first of all, I just think maybe we're going to be having normal politics in America again. What's happened the past four years has been quite shameful. You had the Republicans said, look, our number one priority is to get rid of this president, so every liberal and progressive said, well, our number one priority is to keep him in there.
So then it was just straight shirts and skins, D's and R's, Republicans versus Democrat on very issue. Now I think people are absorbing the fact, we've got this president, he's here, he's here to stay. Some stuff you may agree with, some stuff you may disagree with, and we may finally start talking about policies and not just political parties. I think it's a good thing overall.
Yes. And, you know, Ana, we even talk about this one. You and I talked about it. Van, you and I have talked about it as well. When you even see political pundits or strategists on television, that's what I like about you guys. On Friday, you said something to me, Van, that was -- you praised Rand Paul.
LEMON: -- which people didn't expect, right?
JONES: And I can tell you --
LEMON: So, to hear John McCain say something that you don't expect and to hear other politicians go against normal partisan politics, it is actually refreshing, Ana.
ANA NAVARRO, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: I think it's the healthiest thing that we've seen in a long time in Washington that we saw this week, Don.
First of all, I am very happy with the diversity of thought in the GOP. I think there's nothing wrong with that. It's OK to have Rand Paul doing what he did. But it's also OK to have Lindsey Graham and John McCain defending drone policy.
National security is something they feel deeply about, that they're very knowledgeable about. I think they are very sensitive about not creating some sort of paranoia in this country that our government is going to be sending drones around to kill all of us.
I mean, I can tell you, I don't think Jane Fonda is one of John McCain's favorite Americans. That being said, you know, it is true that the 13-hour filibuster had some moments in it which were a little weird.
LEMON: But, Ana --
NAVARRO: And that's OK, 13 hours, you're entitled to get punching in the middle of the night.
LEMON: Ana, do you think that libertarian issues are going to cause the GOP problems going forward? I mean, Rand Paul, his filibuster obviously touched a nerve for some GOP members.
NAVARRO: I don't, Don. You know, you and I have talked many times about me wanting and other Republicans wanting a big tent party. If you want a big tent party, you got to take a deep breath and make sure that there's room for Rand Paul and for John McCain, and for Ana Navarro, on issues like immigration, like gay rights, like drone policy, on all sorts of issues.
I want to tell you, what we saw this week from the Democrats was even more surprising. They were lockstep. There are many Democrats, who like Van, and many in Congress, are Democrats who agree with Rand Paul on the drone policy and have their concerns, and yet fairly much -- all of them remained silent and did not join this filibuster.
So, I think it's -- you know, it's an interesting dynamic going on. I have no issue where there being diversity of thought in the Republican Party.
LEMON: Go ahead, Van.
JONES: Well, I think you're going to see a lot more diversity coming out with the Democrats as well, whether you're talking about some of the so-called entitlement reform. We see our middle class programs possibly being put on the chopping block by the president.
You're not going to have liberals stay quiet on that. You also have concerns about civil liberties, drone strikes, climate policy. I think you're going to start having normal politics where people talk about the issues again.
This president is a moderate president. He's willing to raise taxes. He's also willing to put some programs on the chopping block.
That should create real debate, real discussion. It shouldn't just break down to skins and shirts, like we're playing neighborhood basketball. These are real issues.
I said that Ron Paul -- well, not Ron Paul, his son Rand, is a hero on civil liberties, for raising issues. Not everything, but for raising issues.
He's also a villain on civil rights for not supporting Dr. King's strategy to bring in the federal government for discrimination.
LEMON: OK. All right, guys --
JONES: So let us have a real debate and not have it just break down on party lines on every single issue.
LEMON: Shorter answer, because I want to get to this next thing and we're running out of time.
Let's talk about what some people are calling the president's charm offensive. He hasn't exactly been a back slapper since, you know, taking office, negotiating with Republicans. Now he is taking them to dinner, calling them on the phone, more meetings are on the way.
This week, Van, he is -- is he afraid that his second term agenda is in trouble if he doesn't start cutting some deals?
JONES: Well, I think, first of all, there's a big myth out there that he never reached out, he never tried. He's put over and over again on the table very good compromises. They've even been to Web sites. The Republicans have just ignored it.
And I think the only thing that's left now is for him to actually sit down and buy them a beer so that they'll come to table, I think it's good that he's doing that. But let's not play to the myth that he hasn't been out there trying. He has been trying. Just now I think that there's a fig leaf that can be removed that he never sat down for dinner.
LEMON: Something tells me Ana Navarro doesn't buy that.
NAVARRO: I think that's completely wrong. I mean, listen, that's malarkey, to use Joe Biden's favorite word.
We just discovered a few weeks ago that he had not placed one single call to one single Republican of the gang of eight working on immigration and they've been at it for months.
No, there hasn't been enough outreach. There's been a lot of posturing on both sides. There's been a lot of chastising and wagging of fingers from President Obama against Republicans.
LEMON: Quickly, Ana.
NAVARRO: And I think it's very important what they're doing.
Yes, Republicans have to come to terms with President Obama being president. And President Obama has got to come to terms with the fact that he's got Republicans in Congress. And they've got to work together.
LEMON: All right. Ana Navarro, Van Jones. Thank you -- to be continued next weekend. We appreciate both of you.
Overall, beer consumption is down in the U.S., but a formal journalist who bet on Brooklyn and high quality brew is finding a lot of fans. That's next.
LEMON: The recent recession took its toll in many areas, even the consumption of beer. But that hasn't been the case in a small brewery in Brooklyn.
CNN's Tom Foreman pays a visit to today's "American Journey".
TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Every day, amid the hustle and hum of Brooklyn, something is brewing at Steve Hindy's place. It looks like, tastes like, and goes down like beer, but it smells like success.
STEVE HINDY, CO-FOUNDER/PRESIDENT, BROOKLYN BREWERY: We sell beer now in 25 states and the name Brooklyn rings bells in Sweden, in Britain, in Italy, in France, in Germany, in Japan, in China.
FOREMAN: Hindy was a long time foreign correspondent in some of the world's most dangerous places. He quit the news business back in the 1980s and decided to turn his hobby of making beer into a small business. He started in a part of New York where property values were comparatively reasonable.
His small team focused on keeping costs low, quality high, helping community charities instead of buying big ads and crafting distinctive brews that stood out from mass produced beers.
GARRETT OLIVER, BREWMASTER, BROOKLYN BREWERY: I think the reason why we have been successful is that we have always trusted that people have good taste. Rather than trying to dumb things down or do focus groups and try to figure out, what does everybody like?
FOREMAN: The result, even as the recession raged, Hindy's place kept going. Even as per capita beer consumption plummeted, the Brooklyn Brewery kept growing.
HINDY: Well, I think it is just the fundamental fact that people are drinking less beer, but they're drinking more special beers. And, you know, we offer a whole range of -- a whole rainbow of flavors of beer.
FOREMAN: This year he says they will expand their staff of 90 people, open a new shop in Stockholm and sell $50 million worth of beer.
HINDY: Our future is very exciting.
FOREMAN: For a former reporter and Brooklyn, that's a headline.
Tom Foreman, CNN.
LEMON: New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has launched a lot of crusades through the years. No smoking in public places. No Trans fats in restaurant food. No supersized sodas. And he's even going after sugar in your morning coffee. I'll explain, just ahead.
LEMON: Half past the hour now. Want to get you caught up on the headlines right now.
Two militants have been killed in a suspected U.S. drone strike. Two intelligence officers tell CNN it happened in north Waziristan, a Pakistani tribal region bordering Afghanistan. They say the drone fired two missiles, striking the militants on a motorbike.
The first vote for the next Pope will happen on Tuesday. Cardinals will gather for the papal conclave in Vatican City. One hundred and fifteen cardinals will keep voting until a winner emerges. When the next Pope has been chosen white smoke will emerge from the chimney on the Sistine Chapel.
A fire claimed seven lives at a home in rural southeastern Kentucky. Firefighters rushed to the scene yesterday and discovered the bodies of two adults and five children. Family members say the couple were expecting another child. The woman was the mother of three of the children. The other two were sleeping over.
So you loved your supersized tea or soda? You may want to avoid New York City then. Beginning this week, the Big Apple begins a new ban on big sugary drinks. And it's not just soda. Coffee is among the culprits, too.
As CNN's Mary Snow reports, the new regulation is rather complicated.
MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's complicated. Lattes won't change because they have milk. Now coffees with sugar, that's another story. At least one coffee chain is bracing its customers, and we found many who were surprised to learn of the breadth of the city ban.
SNOW (voice-over): Along with that cup of coffee, a side order of new rules. Dunkin' Donuts is handing out these fliers to its New York City customers on how new regulations spills over into its coffee business.
It's part of the ban on supersized sugary drinks that goes into effect Tuesday as part of the city effort to fight obesity. To comply, Dunkin' Donuts will no longer put sugar in coffee over 16 ounces. You'll have to do it yourself.
KAILA GANTT, COFFEE DRINKER: Yes, I'm surprised. I thought it was just like soda and like iced teas. I didn't even know it was coffee until just now.
STEPHANIE FORD, COFFEE DRINKER: It's annoying. I believe it's unnecessary. Like there's so many other things to worry about in this city.
SNOW: The city isn't banning restaurants from putting sugar in coffee. The Department of Health says the limit for a barista is four packets of sugar per 20 ounces and customers themselves can add as much sugar as they want.
But Dunkin' Donuts says it wants to cut down on any confusion. McDonald's also says it will tell customers to add their own sugar in coffee over 16 ounces. Both places say they've been prepping workers to be ready.
(On camera): At restaurants, sodas this size is what the city doesn't want served. This is 20 ounces. Now this one is still OK. It's 12 ounces, and customers can order as many as they want. But at restaurants like this one that prides itself on Texas sized servings, it makes a difference.
ERIC LEVINE, DALLAS BBQ: Oh, everything's big.
SNOW (voice-over): Eric Levine is the director of Dallas BBQ, which has 10 restaurants.
(On camera): Are you going to stop using those 20-ounce glasses? LEVINE: We will when the law says we have to. Right now we're sort of in a limbo and we're allowed by the city law to hold off until I think about June.
SNOW: The city says it will not enforce violations for three months as restaurants adjust. Levine is waiting to see the result of a lawsuit filed by restaurants, beverage companies and others to try and stop the city from its ban on supersized drinks. He estimates all the changes will cost his business tens of thousands of dollars and plenty of headaches.
LEVINE: A lot of aggravation. Menu changes, sign changes, digital boards, Facebook, Web sites, text, computers, everything.
SNOW: Now another company that is holding off making any changes right away is Starbucks. It says there are some gray areas that it's sorting through and it's using the city's three-month evaluation period to take a look at what changes it needs to make to be in compliance.
LEMON: All right, thank you, Mary Snow.
Next hour, I'm going to talk with a panel of guests about whether this sugary drink ban is a case of the government going too far. Make sure you stay tuned for that.
And coming up, meet a man who spent more than 11 years in prison for a crime he did not commit. Now an Ohio jury is trying to make it right.
LEMON: A man who spent years in prison for a murder he did not commit gets one of the biggest ever civil rights settlements. David Ayers was convicted of a 1989 murder and was vindicated by DNA evidence after he'd spent 11 years behind bars.
On Friday, a federal jury awarded him more than $13 million for pain and suffering.
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DAVID AYERS, FREE AFTER 11 YEARS IN PRISON FOR MURDER: I was just in tears. I was just crying. Because, I mean, I'm -- you know, I'm finally free after 11 years. For a crime that I was accused of. It will never bring back all the time that I lost for the years that I was incarcerated.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LEMON: A federal jury determined that Cleveland Police officers falsified testimony and mishandled evidence in the case.
Now to the big stories in the week ahead. From the White House to Wall Street, our correspondents tell you what you need to know. We're going to begin tonight with the president's plans for the week.
DAN LOTHIAN, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I'm Dan Lothian at the White House. President Obama this week continues his outreach to lawmakers by going up to Capitol Hill, where on Tuesday he'll meet with Senate Democrats. Wednesday, House Republicans and Thursday, separately with House Democrats and Senate Republicans. Then he wraps up his week by focusing on energy, traveling on Friday to a government lab in Argon, Illinois.
POPPY HARLOW, CNNMONEY CORRESPONDENT: I'm Poppy Harlow in New York. We're following Friday's very strong jobs report showing that 236,000 jobs were created in February in this country, Wall Street will turn its attention to other key economic news coming up this week. We'll get the February retail sales figures. Those are very important because consumer spending makes up almost 2/3 of our total economic growth in this country.
We're also going to get the latest inflation readings along with earnings from Costco and of course we'll see if we have another week of record highs for the Dow.
We'll keep an eye on all of it for you on CNNMoney.
A.J. HAMMER, ANCHOR, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT: I'm SHOWBIZ TONIGHT's A.J. Hammer. And here's what we are watching this week. We're going one- on-one with Andy Dick. Andy is vying for the Mirror Ball Trophy on the brand-new season of "Dancing with the stars." Borris Kodjoe talks to me about being a real husband of Hollywood. And of course tune in all week for the SHOWBIZ countdown.
LEMON: All right. Thanks, guys.
Remember Dolly the cloned sheep? Well, move over, Dolly, scientists are buzzing about a cloning breakthrough. Another animal cloned hundreds of times.
LEMON: OK, listen to this. One mouse cloned nearly 600 times. The scientific implications could be huge. I know it sounds weird. Researchers in Japan created a potentially endless line of mice.
CNN International's Azadeh Ansari is here.
Azadeh, how did this cloning experiment work? It sounds a little creepy to me, I have to tell you, and a little frightening.
AZADEH ANSARI, CNN INTERNATIONAL DESK EDITOR: Right, and -- and you should be alarmed.
ANSARI: Remember Dolly, we talked about this before we --
LEMON: Yes. Yes. ANSARI: -- we came to the segment. But I mean, that raised a lot of international concern in 1996. Now fast forward 17 years, and these researchers in the (INAUDIBLE) Center of Development Biology in Kobe, Japan, what they did, Don, is they take -- they took actually one ideal mouse that they wanted to clone and they replicated that one mouse 581 times, to be exact.
OK. And that's really crazy. I mean, if you think about the implications of this -- and let me get into -- I'm going to get a little bit geeky with you here in terms of how this is all done. I'm going to drop (INAUDIBLE) do background --
LEMON: Go ahead.
ANSARI: Bear with me. So how did this happen? So cloning in general is creating two identical -- genetically identical organisms. But through non-sexual means. So there's no hanky-panky involved here. So all of this happens in a test tube. So Dolly was created in a test tube.
ANSARI: And these mice were also initially started in a test tube. So they take the ideal genetic information from that ideal mouse that they want to replicate and then they insert that into an egg, which has had its nucleus removed. OK? So then you have this egg with the ideal genetic information, place it in a test tube, and that then divides and then once it gets to a stage where it's in the embryo form, it's implanted into a surrogate mother and then the mother has the baby, like it's a Dolly or the mice, and then it just continues. And there was 25 consecutive genetic cloning cycles.
LEMON: And they're all identical.
LEMON: Exactly the same.
ANSARI: Identical. So what I want to highlight here in that whole process is somatic cell nuclear transfer. That's what it's called. That's a technical term. But -- so --
LEMON: Were you a college professor once before you --
ANSARI: I actually was. And I taught biology.
LEMON: OK. OK. That's --
LEMON: How did I -- how did I know that?
ANSARI: You're so smart, Don.
But, you know, I'll stop the geek talks but what is really important here is that not -- it's not so much the technique as it is the fact that you would mentioned the endless potential there, right?
LEMON: The ethical concern. What's the ethical concern here?
ANSARI: Always a consideration. Right? Always something that -- any time you have ground breaking scientific discoveries or breakthroughs, it raises a lot of red flags. Both on the ethical and the moral front. And so again, the frontier is endless. But why is this important? Again, why do we care? Why are we even talking about this? Because it can be applied to livestock, for example. So if you could make the perfect chicken or the perfect cow by just replicating it in the laboratory, think about what that means.
LEMON: Human being?
ANSARI: Now that's taking it to a whole other level. But absolutely. And that's where it starts --
LEMON: Don't think they're not thinking about that.
ANSARI: But that's where -- that's where it starts to get scary, Don.
ANSARI: And again, not just -- I mean, those conversations are being had. It's just allow -- if you allow yourself to go there, it's exciting but also very scary.
LEMON: I'm sure people would take 500 of you. But of me, no.
ANSARI: Why not?
LEMON: You would not want that. Wreak havoc on the earth like that. Thank you, Azadeh.
ANSARI: You're welcome, Don.
LEMON: Appreciate it.
You know, it's been a long time coming, but Tiger Woods may be back into familiar territory. And a U.S. city finding money to build a football stadium in part to keep their team from leaving. What's wrong with the old one? And do teams wield way too much power? We're talking sports, that's next.
LEMON: Police in Florida are reportedly seeking an arrest warrant against former tennis star Jennifer Capriati. The 36-year- old's ex-boyfriend says she punched and pushed and stalked him at a health club on Valentine's Day and says there were at least seven other times Capriati harassed and stalked her. The former top ranked tennis star denies the allegations calling them an over exaggeration.
It's just weeks before the Masters, and Tiger Woods just won his second title of the year, and another city makes room for a new NFL stadium. But what's wrong with the old one?
I know what we're talking about when I read that because I heard all the guys in the NEWSROOM talking about it on Friday.
Jon Wertheim is here, "Sports Illustrated" executive editor.
Congratulations, Mr. Wertheim. And before you can say thank you there's a cover right now of "SI" showcasing the 50 most powerful people in sports.
Congratulations. You got a promotion, huh?
JON WERTHEIM, SPORTS ILLUSTRATED EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Hey, thanks. Appreciate that.
LEMON: Very nice, very nice. I understand that you came in at number 48 on those rankings. Did you?
WERTHEIM: Yes. I had to -- Obama was 44 so I was a couple of spots before him. No, I did not make the list nor will I in the foreseeable future.
LEMON: So Tiger Woods just wrapped up a victory just moments ago in Florida. His game is coming together at just the right time I would think. We've seen the scenario before, haven't we?
WERTHEIM: Yes. You know, last week we talked about Rory McIlroy who walked off the course. This was golf's it guy and who's going to be the new king, and then here comes Tiger. He keeps saying physically he's in a great place. I suspect a lot of this is mental, too, though he'd rather probably talk about the physical. But no, he's playing terrific golf and as you said before, three weeks before the Masters.
This was a big title. He hit the ball well, also staved off a lot of great players. I mean, this is as good -- you know, this is basically as good a title as he's won since his last major which was almost five years ago.
LEMON: But, Jon, he's -- he is no longer number one in the world, but he's playing better than just about anyone in the world right now. Is he -- is he an obvious favorite in Augusta next month?
WERTHEIM: Yes, he's still Tiger, and especially if he comes in with this kind of momentum hitting the ball like this, I think, you know, the track record speaks for itself and I wouldn't take those rankings too seriously. I think he suddenly has become very much the player to beat in Augusta. LEMON: Yes. So the story that we were talking about before where I said everybody was talking about it at noon when we were teasing it is the stadium because it's right here and everyone started looking out the window because we can see the stadium. Money and stadiums. Atlanta this week agreed with the NFL's Falcons on a plan to replace the Georgia Dome.
Can we -- the Georgia Dome is like right over that way as we're looking behind me. That's Atlanta behind me. The Georgia Dome here, which is right next to -- right next door to CNN, it's only 20 years old, Jon. Why do these NFL teams consider 20-year-old buildings to be obsolete? It's not that old.
WERTHEIM: Because there's all sorts of revenue from suites and so forth that they can be capitalizing on, but we've -- you know, we've seen this twist, we've seen this shift from who's going to fund this. And we've seen the shift from public to private. I mean, this is an 80/20 partnership. The team is putting 80 percent in the $1 billion up. You know, whether or not the $200 million is the best use of taxpayer money we can debate. I mean, there's definitely -- the shift is going towards the team having to pay more of its own but -- you know, I mean, Miami is a winner.
Miami had a basketball arena that barely lasted 10 years. I mean, that's -- you know, pet goldfish last longer than that.
And you know, these -- as long -- you know, football is interesting because you have the L.A. market that's open, right?
WERTHEIM: So any team that's unhappy with their lease or with their stadium situation, there's a really attractive media market that's lacking a team right now. So you can always threaten to move there.
LEMON: Yes. And you said it's privately funded, right? So it's not public because we could use mass transit instead of a stadium.
WERTHEIM: This is an 80/20 split. So the team is putting in the majority of the money but it hasn't always been that way.
LEMON: Yes. Thank you. Thanks, Jon Wertheim. Appreciate it.
WERTHEIM: Thanks, Don.
LEMON: All right. A vital yet little known segment of American history is being put to the national spotlight. We take a closer look at the Gullah/Geechee nation. That's next.
LEMON: It's weaved along the southeastern coach, a rich piece of American history. The region was one of the first places that slaves were brought to America to work on rice and cotton plantations. Amid the horrors of slavery came a culture of rituals, music and language known as Gullah or Geechee. Many of their descendants have kept that heritage alive. And now they're being joined by the National Park Service.
CNN's senior media producer Peg Davis brings us the story.
MARQUETTA L. GOODWINE, QUEEN QUET, GULLAH/GEECHEE NATION: My birth name was Marquette Maurice Goodwine. I am Queen Quet, chief and head of state for the Gullah/Geechee nation. Many African-Americans are searching for their roots and often skip over the south and try to go directly back to the motherland, not realizing how much of a retention of their family roots, their cultural ways, and even the way we're (INAUDIBLE), their language has been maintained in the Gullah/Geechee nation. The Gullah/Geechee National Heritage Corridor travels from the cape fair region of North Carolina down just above St. Augustine, Florida.
And so along this coastline is still the homeland of the Gullah/Geechee people in the Gullah/Geechee nation.
Cotton, sea island cotton, Carolina gold rice, and indigo were not just the major three commodities sold out of this region. The main one was black gold, black cargo, what they called our ancestors who today people refer to as Gullah/Geechee. And so if people come in and drive right by and go on the main thoroughfares or just go late out in the sun they miss the heart of what is truly here.
The people who are still the descendants of those who shape this entire country that many want to celebrate today. But as I always say at the Gullah/Geechee Sea Island Coalition, one must take care of the root to heal the tree.
MELISSA HARGROVE, CULTURAL ANTHROPOLOGIST, UNIVERSITY OF NORTH FLORIDA: My name is Dr. Martha Hargrove, and I'm a cultural anthropologist at the University of North Florida. People usually come to understand or recognize that they are Gullah/Geechee by seeing someone, do something that is associated with Gullah/Geechee culture. When I see Queen Quet speak to people.
And when she begins speaking Gullah, they hear what their grandparents said or what their parents and what they've said themselves or the way something is pronounced, or a mannerism, and they immediately, I mean, it was like a -- almost like a revival to see people say my grandmama did that. She put moss in her shoes when she went into a cemetery.
We made tea out of this particular plant for blood thinner and I say, well, that's -- those are all, you know, cultural live ways that you've inherited that you don't really even realize are Gullah/Geechee.
This is what we can learn from Gullah/Geechee culture, is that you always take a moment no matter how bad the bugs are, no matter if it's raining, to pay respect to your dead, to honor your breath, to honor that you're alive because someone else may have done something or, you know, may have held onto a tradition that brought them through.