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Top Jodi Arias Shockers Caught on Tape; Is Kim Kardashian`s Show Faked?; Dr. Oz Sued Over Insomnia Remedy; Top 5 Secrets of the Jury in Jodi Arias Trial
Aired March 21, 2013 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: We saw on "HLN AFTER DARK" tonight the bold accusation: Did Jodi buy the knife she used to kill Travis? Well, now SHOWBIZ TONIGHT dares to ask in the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," what`s the top Jodi shocker caught on tape?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why is your palm print in blood?
JODI ARIAS, MURDER DEFENDANT: How can that be my palm print?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because you were there.
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HAMMER: Is it the stunning and revealing, brand-new interrogation tapes of Jodi revealed today, or is it the remarkable, brand-new look inside Travis Alexander`s apartment?
"HLN AFTER DARK" co-host Ryan Smith and Jane Velez-Mitchell, the host of "JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL" here on HLN, are right here, and they`re bring to break it down with us.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT starts right now.
Hello and thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer.
And now that "HLN AFTER DARK" has taken on another brand-new, bold accusation tonight in the Jodi Arias murder trial, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can reveal in the "SHOWBIZ Countdown" the top three Jodi Arias shockers caught on tape that were revealed today.
Ryan Smith staying up after dark with us. He, of course, co-hosts "HLN AFTER DARK." It`s weeknights at 10 p.m. Eastern. And Jane Velez- Mitchell`s compelling live coverage is seen weeknights on "THE JANE VELEZ- MITCHELL SHOW," 7 p.m. Eastern here on HLN. And Jane`s got a gun, caught on tape.
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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN ANCHOR: We came here to the New Jersey Firearms Academy to test out Jodi Arias`s claim.
She says Travis was coming at her. She pointed the gun at him to try to stop him. And the gun just went off, that she didn`t mean to shoot him. So we`re asking a firearms expert, can a .25-caliber weapon just go off like that?
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HAMMER: Jane! Jane, look at you. Bold move. Going to a gun range to investigate Jodi`s claim that the gun went off accidently before she stabbed her boyfriend, Travis Alexander, nearly 30 times and slit his throat. You`ve got to reveal to us what you learned there.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, it`s never black and white. That instructor, who was great, told me it really depends. The only two people who were there, Travis and Jodi.
And Jodi claims, "Oh, yes, the gun just went off." Well, I had three different possibilities. One, if it`s already cocked, yes, you barely touch that trigger, boom, it goes off. Then, if it`s uncocked, it requires a real squeeze.
But the instructor said in times of stress, when you`re having an argument, there have been many occasions where people do that squeeze without realizing it.
Now if the safety was on, I found it very difficult -- takes a lot of thumb work to get that safety off. I don`t see how it could have gone off.
But I said to him, I said to him, "Really, somebody`s going to leave a gun on a shelf that`s already cocked?"
And he says, "Believe it or not, people will do it because they`re afraid of the intruders. So they think they can just grab the gun and boom."
So there`s no easy answers.
HAMMER: Yes. I guess that question will continue to be an open one. And people do really stupid things, as we`ve learned, with their firearms.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now Ryan, you haven`t believed a whole heck of a lot of anything that Jodi has claimed in the course of this trial. But do you in any way buy Jodi`s claims that she didn`t know the gun went off?
SMITH: No, I don`t. And you know, it just doesn`t make sense, especially with what Jane just described.
But also, it`s just too convenient. The gun had to be up there. She had to remember where it was. There`s only one bullet. There`s one casing on the floor. It just -- it seems like too much of a coincidence to buy.
And you know what, A.J.? When that jury gets instructions, they`re told to use their common sense. If this is an extraordinary situation, OK. But is it a common-sense type of situation?
If you`re just kind of imagining the circumstances, does it make sense that all of these coincidences would have lined up in the way that Jodi described them? And I don`t think so, so far.
HAMMER: Another convenient truth for Jodi Arias, going on a very long list perhaps.
Well, from the gunshot caught on tape to the actual crime scene where Travis Alexander was found murdered, also caught on tape, this is No. 2 on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown."
Now, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has just obtained this video. It was shot by a crew from the CBS show "48 Hours." And what you`re seeing here is the interior of Travis Alexander`s home, and you`re looking at a piece of a wall that was actually removed from Travis` apartment. The wall had a bloody handprint on it.
We also see the shower where Travis` body was found. Jane, a grisly scene to be sure. What does this new video say to you?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, look at how tiny that shower is. And if she had, as prosecutors contend, gotten him there in a very helpless position, sitting on the floor, it would be very easy to attack him there.
Remember, the prosecutor says she`s completely lying about, oh, she did this in self-defense because she dropped the camera and he got mad. They`re saying that she took her grandfather`s gun and staged a robbery to get it and came there in a premeditated fashion and planned to attack him. That`s why this petite woman was able to overpower this man and stab him 29 times and slit his throat ear to ear, down to the spine.
HAMMER: I find it so compelling, Jane. As you`re talking, we`re looking at this video. And it`s obvious, I think, to anybody who`s seeing this footage that the police just scoured Travis` apartment, obviously. You just have to look at the dusting for fingerprints, the light switch, the shower stall. Ryan, this has to be particularly interesting for you because you and Vinnie Politan on "AFTER DARK" re-created the crime scene. So you really have a unique perspective.
What do you see beside those rooms there?
RYAN SMITH, HLN ANCHOR: Well, I see, especially when you look at our scene, we have the same thing. When we walked in, you see the smallness of that bathroom and how these walls are so tight. And it just doesn`t lend itself to so many aspects of her story. I think Jane`s exactly right.
The smallness of that bathroom, you have to imagine, if you believe Jodi`s story, that he is able to, nude, jump out of the shower, get on her. They have all these interactions; he`s nude the whole time.
That house is very small. And the more I look at it, when I see those dimensions and the way that`s all set up, it just doesn`t seem plausible what she`s describing. Even on down to the hallway and the blood prints on the side. It just is too small for all the kind of maneuvering that she seems to describe to happen the way she described them.
HAMMER: You guys...
VELEZ-MITCHELL: In 62 seconds.
SMITH: Yes.
HAMMER: You getting chills looking at this footage?
SMITH: Yes. Oh, it just -- it just makes you feel for Travis in the situation because it`s his own home, and as I look at it, I just think what must he have gone through as he saw all this happen?
Not only that, the M.E. said he was stabbed first. So if he`s in that crouched position, imagine him in his own bathroom...
HAMMER: Right.
SMITH: ... getting stabbed by Jodi. That`s terrifying.
HAMMER: Well, let`s get right to No. 1 on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown," "Caught on Tape" tonight.
Just revealed today, brand-new video of Jodi Arias during her July 2008 interrogation. Now, the sheriff`s department has just released hours of Jodi being grilled. And you can clearly see she had no idea what was coming when the investigator in Travis`s murder sprung a boatload of pictures that placed her right there at the crime scene. Let`s watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is just one of the photos that was taken by accident. And this is just a small portion of it.
That`s your foot, Jodi. These are your pants. Now it`s off color because we had to enhance it and the color pattern changes a little bit. That`s Travis.
ARIAS: This is his bathroom. That is not my foot.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Those are your pants.
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HAMMER: All right, Jane, you watched it right there with me. She says, "That`s not my foot."
The investigator says, "Jodi, it`s your foot. Those are your pants." What do you think is going through her mind at that point?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, yes, it is your foot, honey.
Well, she`s a pathological liar. And one of the reasons this case is so fascinating is that we get to see how pathological liars work. The truth is a dead issue for them. They process information differently. Anything they think and say in their minds becomes the truth.
So when they say, "Oh, your bloody palm print`s discovered."
"Oh, what do you mean my..."
"Well, yes, you were there."
And so they can genuinely sound like they`re expressing shock when confronted with evidence, because in their mind, any story they make up in their heads automatically becomes their truth.
COOPER: The truth. Yes. Absolutely. You got to see Jodi react, by the way, to hearing the news about what her family suspected about her involvement in Travis`s death. Watch.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why are they not surprised that you`re sitting here talking to me about this?
ARIAS: What do you mean?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They`re not surprised. They`re concerned. They`re...
ARIA: Have you talked to them?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I haven`t, but my other detectives have. And they`re very concerned with you. But they kind of suspected that you had something to do with Travis` death, as well.
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HAMMER: Wow. Ryan, your quick reaction to her reaction?
SMITH: Oh, boy. Shock that her parents could have that kind of response. She can`t believe it. And you see it on her face right there.
HAMMER: Great, guys. Thank you very much for your insight on all of this tonight. Fascinating new footage. Jane, with that gun -- wow! Jane Velez- Mitchell, Ryan Smith, I appreciate it.
Be sure to catch up with the very latest in the Jodi Arias murder trial with HLN`s new series, "HLN AFTER DARK: THE JODI ARIAS TRIAL." It`s Monday through Thursday, 10 p.m. Eastern here on HLN.
And you`ve got to stick around for another fascinating Jodi Arias countdown tonight. I can`t wait to bring this to you: the top five secrets of the jury. It`s the completely surprising things you don`t know now about the jurors. I`m going one on one with jurors from some of the most notorious cases in recent history: Conrad Murray, Phil Spector, Scott Peterson. And you`re going to hear their startling revelations rights here tonight.
Plus, the stunning new developments in the Kim Kardashian/Kris Humphries never-ending divorce saga. Reported confessions from one of Kim`s producers could be a major game-changer. It`s "SHOWBIZ Quick Hits," and the clock is ticking tonight.
This is "SBT," SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN. All around the world everybody singing along everybody singing along never looking back it`s a long, long way from my home
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KRIS HUMPHRIES, EX-HUSBAND OF KIM KARDASHIAN: Doesn`t want to change her name.
A part of me thought that Kim was going change her name for the marriage license. At this point I feel like I`m not even getting married, and I just don`t care.
KIM KARDASHIAN, REALITY TV STAR: The legal documents, I`m going to have to sign "Kardashian" on all my Kardashian stuff. So I`ll do like Kim Kardashian on my license. But...
HUMPHRIES: Just stay Kardashian.
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HAMMER: We should have known that something was up, right? It`s Kim Kardashian, of course, and Kris Humphries clashing. That was just days before their big reality TV wedding. All signs just pointing to a marriage that was doomed -- Doomed, I say -- before it started.
So when will it ever officially end? Now to "SHOWBIZ Quick Hits" on big news breaking today. Let`s quick off the "Quick Hits" with stunning new developments in the Kim Kardashian/Kris Humphries never-ending divorce saga.
So a producer from the Kardashian reality series has reportedly admitted in a deposition that the show actually faked scenes to make Humphries look bad after Kim decided she wanted a divorce.
But Kim just sat down to give her side of the story this week. And she apparently said her love for Kris was real at the time.
CNN legal analyst Sunny Hostin is with me in New York tonight.
OK, Sunny, let`s have at this. Kris has set out to prove the marriage was a sham; it was a fraud right from the start. But if Kim says it wasn`t, who wins this battle?
Now, before you begin, I need your thoughts in 30 seconds or less. Charles, start the clock.
SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: You know, who knows who wins? Bottom line is, we don`t know what`s reality and what`s fake with this couple.
She now says she loved him. He says it`s not true. They`ve been, you know, back and forth with this whole divorce thing. I don`t know what to believe, and I don`t think that a jury or a judge will know what to believe either.
HAMMER: Great insight under pressure with ten seconds to spare, Sunny.
Let me bring in entertainment reporter for CNN Digital, Alan Duke. He`s in Hollywood.
Alan, the divorce case doesn`t seem very cut and dried at all. I need to know: are you team Humphries or team Kardashian in the endless saga? And you don`t get Sunny`s extra ten seconds. You`ve got 30 seconds. Go.
ALAN DUKE, CORRESPONDENT, CNN DIGITAL: Well, I`m a journalist, and I`m not team anything, but it is fascinating to watch this divorce. Usually most of these divorces are done cut and dry in privacy, with filings that are sealed and documents that are hard to get to. But so many leaks here.
And I`m telling you: reality shows out here, is there actually one that`s real? That would be shocking if I would find that one.
HAMMER: This is very true. I think that there`s a very small number of the cooking shows that are actually real.
But let`s get to what`s next on "SHOWBIZ quick hits." Dr. Oz, the great Oz, has been slapped with a lawsuit by an unhappy viewer who says that he burned his feet because of a tip from Dr. Oz.
Now, listen to this tip for better sleep. What Dr. Oz says you do is fill a pair of socks with rice. You heat them up in the microwave. Then you put them on and wear them to bed.
Now the viewer says that he didn`t know his feet were burning because he has diabetes and lost some sensitivity in his feet.
And Sunny, I hear this and I`m thinking, come on. Sometimes you got to take what you see on TV with a grain of salt -- rice. Thirty seconds for your take. Go.
HOSTIN: I think Dr. Oz is in good shape here. If you listen to what he said -- and I have -- and you listen to the clip, he says make sure that the rice isn`t too hot. The fact that this viewer chose not to do that, the fact that this viewer had some sort of disease that kept him from knowing, that`s really on him. That`s not on Dr. Oz.
Alan Duke, it`s a big deal to take on the all-powerful Oz. Do you think this is a crazy lawsuit here?
DUKE: Well, as I wrote about it yesterday, I went back and watched the episode several times. And I think Dr. Oz may have couched things. He said, "If you follow my instructions," and he said, "Warm, not hot."
So I don`t think how well they`re going to fare in court with this. And by the way, I tried this last night. I slept like a baby.
HAMMER: Good for you. All right. Then you had rice in the morning with your breakfast.
Next on "SHOWBIZ Quick Hits," O.J. Simpson coming to a TV near you in the form of a miniseries. Now that O.J. is locked away in prison, FOX wants to tell the story of his 1995 murder trial.
Sonny, the case divided the country. It has been 18 years now. Are you thinking bring it on or leave it in the past? Get that clock rolling.
HOSTIN: I`m thinking bring it on. I mean, I think that the O.J. Simpson trial just changed everything about how we view the legal system. We got that bird`s eye view.
If not for O.J., would we have Jodi Arias? Would we have Casey Anthony? Would we have our bird`s eye view into the criminal justice system? I say bring it on, let`s take a look.
HAMMER: Would we have the fascination we have with car chases as we watched that white bronco making its way down the freeway?
All right. Sunny Hostin, Alan Duke, you did well. No buzzers for you. Thanks for helping us.
HAMMER: Well, I`ve got another explosive Jodi Arias countdown for you tonight. You`re not going to want to miss this. The top five secrets of the jury. What`s really going through their minds?
Well, I have got three jurors right here. They were on some of the most notorious cases in legal history. And you`re going to hear their startling revelations, only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Plus, it`s every geeky high school boy`s dream come true, right? Going to the prom with a supermodel.
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JAKE DAVIDSON, SEEKING PROM DATE: You like fine dining. I like fine dining. You`re on the cover of "Sports Illustrated." I read "Sports Illustrated."
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HAMMER: Yes, why not? Well, Kate Upton actually says she is checking her schedule to possibly accept that kid`s invitation to the prom. It may be the stuff of movies, but it might actually happen for that lucky senior. You`ve got to see the very special "SHOWBIZ Trending" coming up.
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.
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HAMMER: "SHOWBIZ Trending" tonight, Justin Timberlake`s new video for his new song "mirrors." it is an emotional tribute to his grandparents and their 63-year marriage.
Justin`s grandfather passed away in December.
Justin`s new video is trending big time right now on YouTube. The song "Mirrors" comes from J.T.`s brand-new album "The 20/20 Experience."
And to celebrate the long-awaited release of that album, he`s premiering this epic eight-minute video that celebrates his grandparents` incredible six-decade love story. And that tearjerker kicks off tonight`s "showbiz trending."
Janelle Snowden is a correspondent for VH-1`s "Morning Buzz Live" is with us in New York. And I hope you have your tissues. I`ve got mine right here, Janelle, because you`re going to want to break them out for this video. It may be eight minutes long, but every second of this thing is riveting.
I want to watch a little more of it with you.
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HAMMER: What I love is that Justin doesn`t even show up in the video until the nearly six-minute mark, Janelle.
JANELLE SNOWDEN, CORRESPONDENT, VH-1`S "MORNING BUZZ LIVE": Until the very end, yes.
HAMMER: And everything that Justin does is so hot right now. But why do you think this video in particular is getting so much buzz and trending so big tonight?
SNOWDEN: Well, I think part of the reason is because it`s a really sweet sentiment. As you mentioned, it`s a dedication to his grandparents. You see that title card at the very start of the video. It`s so cinematic. It is like a movie.
So you`re following the story. You`re kind of seeing this couple. You know, we like that kind of thing. We love the movie "The Notebook" because we love an endearing love story. So the fact that it`s a dedication to his grandparents and the fact that everything he touches is turning to gold right now.
I predict he`s going to do incredible numbers because he`s had so much promotion. He did "Saturday Night Live." He did five days with Jimmy Fallon. Then he did a live album release party on the CW. And now he`s releasing this eight-minute movie. He`s like -- he`s untouchable.
HAMMER: Yes. He`s doing everything right right now.
Also trending tonight, Tiger Woods`s new romance with pro skier Lindsey Vonn. Now Lindsey apparently not worried about Tiger`s past sex addiction.
But now it`s coming to light that she was cracking jokes about Tiger`s 2010 apology tour. We remember that. She told "TIME" magazine back then that, if she ever got to host "Saturday Night Live," she would drop this line: quote, "Tiger, you`re like my idol, and I, too, have a sex problem." And then she told "TIME," "That would be freaking funny."
Janelle, should we be worried, or many a truth perhaps is said in jest, and they`re perfect for each other?
SNOWDEN: It seems like they actually might be a good match for now. I mean, who knows? She could be in on the joke and we`re not.
I think I just want her to be careful. Because people say history repeats itself.
HAMMER: Yes.
SNOWDEN: People say that, you know, a guy`s not going to change. I think when a guy shows you who he is, believe him the first time. But I know that we, as women, tend to let our egos get involved and think, "Well, maybe he just didn`t love her as much..."
HAMMER: Right.
SNOWDEN: "... as he loves me. Maybe I can change him." Run!
HAMMER: Yes. There were a lot of women involved in that. We`re going to end it there. Thanks so much.
SNOWDEN: Thank you.
HAMMER: Get ready because I`m firing up another fascinating "SHOWBIZ Countdown." And you are going to love this. The top five secrets of the Jodi Arias jury. What is really going through their minds? Well, I`m speaking with three jurors from some of the most notorious cases ever. You`ve got to hear their startling revelations right here tonight.
And get ready for your moment of "SHOWBIZ Awesomeness."
I`m revealing the former Disney star who`s dancing and twerking in that unicorn onesie. Trust me, you need to find out who`s under that hood.
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.
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HAMMER: Right now the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," the secrets of high-profile jurors. The pressure, the media scrutiny, the secrecy. Jurors from some of the most notorious cases -- Conrad Murray, Scott Peterson, and Phil Spector -- are right here tonight. Their startling revelations about what the Jodi Arias jury is really going through.
But which revelation will top the "SHOWBIZ Countdown"?
So what`s the secret to wooing a supermodel? A big bank account, rugged good looks? Nope, just be yourself.
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DAVIDSON: You like fine dining. I like fine dining. You`re on the cover of "Sports Illustrated." I read "Sports Illustrated."
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HAMMER: It`s SHOWBIZ trending. So will a scrawny California senior convince supermodel Kate Upton to go with him to his prom? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues right now.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, and thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer. And now, a must-see, very special SHOWBIZ countdown. It`s the top secrets of the jury in the Jodi Arias murder trial. What are these jurors thinking and hearing and experiencing? Well, tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is bringing you three jurors who certainly know what it`s like for this jury.
Debbie Franklin (ph) was a juror in the trial of Conrad Murray, convicting him of killing Michael Jackson. She`s in Hollywood tonight. So is Ricardo Enriquez (ph), one of the jurors from the first trial of legendary record producer Phil Spector, who was later convicted of murder at his second trial. And Mike Belaceri (ph) was one of the jurors who convicted Scott Peterson of murdering his wife and their unborn child. I want to thank you all so much for being here. We have so many things that we want to ask you guys tonight, so let`s get right to our countdown.
And kick it off with No. 5. It`s the secret pressure of being a juror on a trial that everyone`s watching.
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HAMMER: They were the Jodi Arias trials of their day. Legendary music producer Phil Spector, tried for the fatal shooting of Lana Clarkson at his house in 2003. His first trial in 2007 ended in a hung jury.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Guilty of the crime of second-degree murder.
HAMMER: The result was different in the next trial. Spector`s now serving a sentence of 19 years to life.
Dr. Conrad Murray put on trial for involuntary manslaughter for the death of his patient, Michael Jackson.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Guilty.
HAMMER: He was convicted and is now serving a four-year sentence.
And Scott Peterson, accused of murdering his pregnant wife in 2002. Not only was he convicted, he also got the ultimate sentence.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The penalty of death.
HAMMER: Now it`s Jodi Arias facing the ultimate sentence, and her fate`s in the hands of 12 people who will decide her guilt or innocence.
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HAMMER: So what is the secret to dealing with all of the pressure of being a juror in a high-profile case? Debbie, I want to start with you. The jury that you were on was dealing with the death of the most famous musician in the world, Michael Jackson, of course. So based on your experience, what secret pressure do you think that Jodi Arias jurors are going through right now?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When you`re on a high-profile case, for me, you don`t really realize that it`s on -- you know it`s on TV, you know it`s being televised, but you don`t feel the pressure as a juror that that`s being televised. You`re so involved in what`s going on in the courtroom that you don`t realize that a lot of people are watching you.
HAMMER: So are you almost shocked afterwards to find out exactly how high profile it was and how many people were tuned in, following every single thing that was going on?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was definitely a shock. It was very shocking.
HAMMER: Ricardo, you sat on the jury in the trial of one of the most famous record producers in the world, Phil Spector. What can you tell us about what you experienced with that sort of pressure?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like she said before, we didn`t realize how big it was. We pretty much took the judge`s admonition at the end of each day very, very serious. So we were pretty isolated. We were escorted in. Drove to a secret location and were escorted. So we didn`t see all of that excitement. It wasn`t until afterwards that the enormity of the trial was realized, at least for me.
HAMMER: I have to believe that when we finally do get to speak to any of the Jodi Arias jurors, we`re going to hear pretty much the same thing. They probably have no idea how big this thing is.
But jurors in a murder trial have to often look at some pretty gruesome stuff. That takes us to No. 4 on our SHOWBIZ countdown. The secret trauma of having to look at some really graphic images.
Well, the Jodi Arias jury had to look at the pictures of Jodi`s boyfriend, Travis Alexander, what he looked like after he shot him and stabbed him almost 30 times. And of course, Jodi herself broke down when she was forced to look at those images.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ma`am, were you crying when you were shooting him?
ARIAS: I don`t remember.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you crying when you were stabbing him?
ARIAS: I don`t remember.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about when you cut his throat, were you crying then?
ARIAS: I don`t know.
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HAMMER: It`s really so disturbing, Mike. It`s certainly no less disturbing than you and your fellow jurors having to look at pictures of the body of Scott Peterson`s pregnant wife before convicting him of murder. As a juror, I`ve always wondered how do you deal with that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don`t. You try to -- you try to put it away. But you can`t. It`s -- you know, those sort of -- of things, you really -- you need to see the evidence, and you need to weigh it all, and you need to see these autopsy photos. But you never -- you never are able to put it away. It stays with you.
You know, I`m a Marine Corps veteran. I served during the Vietnam War. I`ve seen men, terrible thing done to the human body. You know, it -- it really wasn`t much different in viewing the autopsy photos of Laci Peterson. It`s horrifying, it`s terrible. And you never lose that. And you just try to put it in a dark corner and just not let it stick with you and come up in your -- in your head, so to speak, because it`s not an easy -- it`s not an easy task. And these jurors going through this current trial, you know, it`s got to be hard on them, yes. Absolutely.
HAMMER: Yes. I mean, it has to be -- it`s unimaginable, you`re going in to do your civil duty and serve on a jury and having to see things that you never want to have to see in your life. Ricardo, let me ask you about this, because you had to look at photos of the body of Lana Clarkson, of course is the woman that Phil Spector was convicted of killing. What do you think the jury in the Jodi Arias trial was thinking when they had to do the same thing?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t think anything really prepares you for what you`re going to see. As a juror, you`re told that they are going to be pretty upsetting, but it isn`t until you actually see the -- in our case, it was actually a disembodied part of her mouth. And that was very, very disturbing. And quite frankly, I really hadn`t thought of it until today. But now that we`re talking about it, I can still remember how upset -- there was quite a bit of silence when we were released back into the jury room, because it was very disturbing.
HAMMER: Well, I do apologize if I have transported any of you back to those what I`m sure were impossibly difficult moments. But as we move on - - I know that the Jodi Arias jury is dealing with something that you guys on our panel are probably definitely curious about. It`s No. 3 on our SHOWBIZ countdown. The secret curiosity of actually hearing from the accused.
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ARIAS: I don`t remember what I was thinking during those hours.
HAMMER: It`s what makes the Jodi Arias trial different from all the other trials we`ve seen lately. Not only is this defendant taking the stand in her own defense --
ARIAS: I knew I had done something that I felt was wrong.
HAMMER: The jury got to ask her questions.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why would you continue to sleep with Travis --
HAMMER: Leading to some of the most dramatic moments in the trial.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: After all the lies you have told, why should we believe you now?
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HAMMER: Jodi Arias spent 18 days on the witness stand. Now, Debbie, I want to go to you on this. Conrad Murray, of course, chose not to testify in his trial when you were on that jury. Give us a sense of what a game- changer that would have been and what it is for a jury to actually hear from the accused, like that as we`ve seen in the Jodi Arias trial.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, even though Conrad Murray didn`t take the stand, we had that audiotape that he did and the transcript from that that was almost 2.5 or 3 hours long. So we felt that we actually did hear from him. And we used that a lot in the deliberations.
HAMMER: Yes. I have the feeling that was a total game changer. Ricardo, you didn`t hear from Phil Spector. Of course you didn`t get to ask questions like jurors have gotten to do for Jodi Arias. As a former juror, how huge is that? To be able to ask the defendant questions?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, quite frankly, from sitting there for almost six months, I don`t think Phil was capable of actually addressing the jury. And had he -- had he been able to, I guess the key would have been why. Why he shot her. But I`m sure that the questions are pretty well vetted by both sets of attorneys. So, you know -- but it would have been interesting to have him say something.
HAMMER: Mike, can you tell me quickly, was there one question you just wished you could have asked of Scott Peterson?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. After five and a half months of trial, we pretty much knew Scott Peterson. Scott Peterson has no credibility. He -- he just -- wouldn`t know the truth if it bit him in the behind.
HAMMER: Yes, I think that`s the exact same thing that the jurors in the Jodi Arias case are finding out and have found out through being able to ask questions.
So that gets us down to No. 2 and No. 1 in our SHOWBIZ countdown of the secrets of the Jodi Arias jury. And our special jury panel is staying with us for that. It`s been fascinating, guys. Don`t go anywhere.
All right.
Let`s change subjects for a moment. You remember your prom, right? Big hair, that itchy tux, maybe a poofy dress. Tonight you`re going to meet a California senior who`s trying to make his prom not just memorable but monumental.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You like fine dining. I like fine dining. You`re on the cover of "Sports Illustrated." I read "Sports Illustrated."
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HAMMER: I love this story. So did that scrawny California senior really just convince model Kate Upton to go to the prom with him? His Youtube plea is trending big time tonight. But will Kate say yes? And wait until you see what we named our SHOWBIZ moment of awesomeness. This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, and the SHOWBIZ countdown of the top five secrets of the jury in the Jodi Arias murder trial. And with us tonight are jurors from some of the biggest, most sensational trials in recent memory. In Hollywood, Debbie Franklin, one of the jurors who convicted Dr. Conrad Murray in the death of Michael Jackson. Also in Hollywood tonight, Ricardo Enriquez, who sat on the jury in the first murder trial of legendary record producer Phil Spector. And in San Francisco, Mike Belaceri, who was on the jury that convicted Scott Peterson of murdering his pregnant wife.
We`re now to No. 2 on our SHOWBIZ countdown, the secret distractions the jury faces when presented with the evidence.
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ARIAS: It was difficult to stay away from him.
HAMMER: In the Jodi Arias trial, it`s sometimes hard to remember exactly who`s on trial. Her attorneys are making sure you hear dirt about the man she killed, Travis Alexander.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Despite projecting himself as a good and virginal Mormon man, from the moment he met Jodi, he was pushing and pushing her to have a sexual relationship.
HAMMER: Including Jodi`s unproven claims about it.
ARIAS: The day I walked in on Travis [EXPLETIVE DELETED] pictures of kids.
HAMMER: Forget the fact that there`s no evidence to back up many of Jodi`s inflammatory claims about Travis, people on trial for their lives and freedom don`t think twice about asking jurors to judge the victim as well as the accused.
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HAMMER: That really seems to be such a common ploy as we`re seeing in the Jodi Arias trial, Conrad Murray`s defense. When you looked at it, essentially put Michael Jackson on trial to kind of imply that he was responsible for his own death. Debbie, you were right there sitting on that jury. You guys must have been asking yourselves, hey, who`s on trial here? What is the secret to dealing with that as the Jodi Arias jurors have to do now?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know, during our trial, I really didn`t get the feeling that they were putting Michael Jackson on trial. I felt that the judge really tried to keep it focused, the attorneys focused on Conrad Murray. And I feel that as jurors, that`s where we kept our focus.
HAMMER: OK. Ricardo, I`m curious to have your perspective on this, because when you were on the jury in the trial of Phil Spector, some of your fellow jurors were perhaps judging his victim, who was a struggling actress that he had brought back to his place. Did you have to be very careful to not let that play into your decisions about Phil Spector`s fate?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not for me so much. There was an incident there where the defense brought out an audition tape that Lana had put out to different people. And in it was various skits that she did. She also did a blackface minstrel show. And I guess the defense tried to prove her as some kind of racist, but what it did, it brought her back to life for us. We actually were able to hear her and see her sing and dance. And afterwards, I remember going to the jury room, and everybody was very quiet. And in the few -- I did see a few tears in their eyes. So what the defense tried to do kind of backfired on them. And after that, it -- she was alive for me.
HAMMER: Perhaps -- go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was a sense of grieving afterwards. I felt really sad that I`d never met her and probably -- would never meet her. So that for me was --
HAMMER: It`s really interesting. And perhaps that`s what the jurors are doing now with Travis Alexander. And that`s backfiring on the defense.
So out of all the secrets of the Jodi Arias jury and what they`re dealing with, what`s No. 1 on our SHOWBIZ countdown? The secret tension behind jury deliberations.
Mike, as in the Jodi Arias trial, your jury was deciding whether to send Scott Peterson to death row for killing his wife and unborn child. Give us a sense of what kind of tension that that Arias jury is going to face once they start deciding on Jodi`s life. I can`t imagine that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. It -- it`s very emotional, very difficult, because the decision you make not only affects the accused, it affects the victim`s family, and it affects the accused`s family. But you can`t take that into consideration. You have to focus on what the facts are. You have to weigh the evidence, weigh the testimony, determine what is the truth and what justice -- how justice can be applied.
HAMMER: And do the job you were sent there to do.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Peterson --
HAMMER: I have to end it there, but I have to tell you, the three of you, this has been spectacularly fascinating. It`s amazing insight you`ve given us tonight. Ricardo, Debbie, Mike, thank you all so much, we really appreciate it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re welcome.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.
HAMMER: And we move on now to something completely different -- the secret to wooing a supermodel.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You like fine dining. I like fine dining. You`re on the cover of "Sports Illustrated." I read "Sports Illustrated."
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HAMMER: OK. So did that scrawny California senior really just convince model Kate Upton to go to the prom with him? It`s SHOWBIZ trending tonight. I`ve got his amazing Youtube plea and Kate`s response for you.
Plus, wait until you see what we have named as our moment of SHOWBIZ awesomeness. This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: If you didn`t have a steady girlfriend or boyfriend in high school, you might remember the sweat-inducing pressure to get a date for the prom. I mean, the nerves, the possible rejection. Probably enough to make you a little sick, right? But a California senior decided to channel that idea, go big or stay home. He asked Kate Upton of all people to prom. Yes, this Kate Upton right here. The two-time cover model from "Sports Illustrated," their swimsuit issue. He wooed Kate with a brilliant video on Youtube. But the question is, does this good guy finish first? Here is CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the best prom date request ever.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Everyone wants her. Will this California high school senior get her?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It hit me. Why don`t I ask Kate Upton to prom? It was a pipe dream. Everyone was like, that`s crazy. You`re going to embarrass yourself.
MOOS: Instead of embarrassing himself, Jake Davidson (ph) ended up on "The Today Show" talking to the "Sports Illustrated" swimsuit model on the phone.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This just got so much better now that you`re on the phone.
KATE UPTON: I absolutely loved the video.
MOOS: This video --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Inviting you to my senior prom on May 23.
MOOS: From the chaise lounge to the mirror, he wooed her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can ride around all night long until 11:00. That`s my curfew.
MOOS: He recounted their commonalities --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`re on the cover of "Sports Illustrated," I read "Sports Illustrated."
MOOS: And she`s being a good sport about your invitation, Jake. She even tweeted, "how could I turn down that video? I`ll check my schedule."
Other mere mortals have asked out celebrities. Mila Kunis was invited to the Marine Corps ball via a Youtube video.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Mila. Sergeant Moore, but you can call me Scott.
MOOS: They ended up going together. And Justin Timberlake got an invite from this Marine corporal.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And if you can`t go, all I have to say is cry me a river.
MOOS: Nobody had to cry, Justin said yes. But Jake Davidson and the film student friend shooting the video took it to a whole new level.
A shower scene?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kate, can I call you Katie? OK, Kate works.
MOOS: Nice touch, banter from the shower, Jake. But maybe a little too forward. Just because Kate Upton goes polar bare, doesn`t mean you have to.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You like fine dining. I like fine dining.
MOOS: Jake says his friends keep imitating what he calls his nasally voice.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You like fine dining. I like fine ding.
MOOS: Stricken by allergies. Meanwhile, Kate Upton`s been stricken by pressure. She told the Web site Mashable --
UPTON: The pressure`s on. And I feel like it`s you guys, it`s the news that`s putting it.
MOOS: Please don`t let us screw it up for him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What time should I pick you up if you`re interested?
MOOS: She says she still has to adjust her schedule. While he`s adjusting his savings to splurge on wheels for prom night.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Old vintage Rolls Royce that I could rent out.
MOOS: Jake`s got visions of the Rolls Royce of swimsuit models swimming in his head.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You like fine dining. I like fine dining.
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HAMMER: That was CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Hopefully Kate`s schedule will fall in line. We`re rooting for you, Jake. Go for it. All right.
The star of tonight`s SHOWBIZ moment of awesomeness was once a Disney tween queen. And now she`s showing us what she`s twerking with wearing a unicorn onesie in a video that`s gone wildly viral today.
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HAMMER: No clue, right? We`re going to make the big reveal next. A jaw- dropping moment of SHOWBIZ awesomeness you can`t miss. This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: It`s time for SHOWBIZ awesomeness, where we name the most awesome moment of the day. So Miley Cyrus has been going a long way to show us that she`s all grown up, right? She`s engaged -- we refuse to believe the rumors. She`s rocking this funky haircut. And she`s been sporting some pretty edgy fashion. Tonight, Miley is showing the world what she`s twerking with, disguised in a unicorn onesie in a video that has gone awesomely viral. Watch.
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HAMMER: Awesome, right? She reveals herself at the end of the video. But if you still don`t believe me, it is Miley shaking like that. Look at this picture that she tweeted.
I have to say I am pretty impressed.
Coming up next on "Dr. Drew on Call," tonight Dr. Drew`s behavior bureau is identifying the subtle yet very telling behavior in the just-revealed Jodi Arias interrogation videos. You got to see what Dr. Drew has got lined up, and it starts right now.
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