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Dental Patient Testing Starts Today; Frozen Food Recalled; 9/11 Steel Beam Cross To Stay; Rare TV Appearance For Turin Shroud; New North Korean Threats; North Korea's Map Has U.S. Targets; Severe Weather Threat; City Pulls Reward In Dorner Case; Knox Retrial; Marching Toward The Elite 8; Jackson Wrongful Death Lawsuit; Unconstitutional Search; Escape To The Florida Keys; Finding Tax Shelter Close To Home

Aired March 30, 2013 - 12:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: I don't know if I want that. It's just one more thing. OK, all right, I feel better now. Thanks, Alison. Good to see you. Have a great day.

All right, we have a lot straight ahead including this, dental patients getting tested after disturbing news that they may have been exposed to HIV or hepatitis. We're learning what's next for those patients.

And Pyongyang is threatening South Korea with war. So what is North Korea up to? Is it getting ready to start a full scale conflict?

And Michael Jackson's family is suing his concert promoter, AEG Live. In less than 40 minutes, our legal guys will be here to talk about the wrongful death suit and what the Jacksons hope to get out of it.

So let's start in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where screening has started for patients who may have been exposed to HIV or hepatitis at their dentist's office. About 7,000 people could be at risk. This whole thing started when investigators found horrific conditions at this dentist office. Susan Candiotti is in Tulsa today -- Susan.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Fred, possibly hundreds of patients could begin to show up today as free screenings begin for up to 7,000 patients of a dentist by the name of Scott Harrington here in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Authorities are concerned that many of those patients may be at risk for hepatitis and possibly HIV. They want to test them because they inspected the dental offices of Dr. Harrington and discovered that there were, according to authorities, filthy conditions including used expired drugs and also not properly sterilizing their equipment.

Now we talked to some of the patients who will be coming today. They are very concerned about that they may have been exposed to these infectious diseases and we asked what will happen after the patients are screened.

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KAITLIN SNIDER, TULSA HEALTH DEPARTMENT: It will take approximately two to three weeks for patients to receive test results. If someone receives a negative test result, they will be notified via mail. If anyone were to test positive, they would see a personal contact to reveal their results.

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CANDIOTTI: The dentist in this case, Harrington, has surrendered voluntarily his license while the investigation goes on. The state attorney's office is looking at the possibility of criminal charges -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much, Susan.

Do you have Farm Rich brand frozen meals and snacks in your freezer? If you do, listen up. Some of these products are being recalled because of reported cases of E. Coli. The CDC says 24 cases have been reported across 15 states involving nearly 200,000 pounds of frozen food. Most states impacted are in the south and the Midwest. E. Coli is a potentially-deadly bacteria that could cause diarrhea, dehydration and in severe cases kidney failure.

A steel beam cross found in the debris of the World Trade Center will not be removed from the 9/11 Museum in Lower Manhattan. A judge tossed out a lawsuit that tried to get it moved. It was filed by a group of Atheists who say the cross is a religious symbol. They say it doesn't honor the memory of the non-Christian victims. The judge said the cross has historical significance.

Millions of people across Italy will get to see a very famous religious relic today on television. The Shroud of Turin is usually kept out of sight in a bullet proof, climate-controlled glass case. According to Vatican radio, the images have been broadcast just once before in 1973. Some Christians believe the shroud was Jesus' burial cloth.

And new threats from North Korea today, the country says it has entered a state of war with South Korea. That's according to state run news agencies. The National Security Council says it takes the threat seriously. Chris Lawrence is at the Pentagon with more on North Korea's latest threats.

CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fred, there's a lot of folks in Texas right now who are wondering how in the world did we get on North Korea's bulls eye list? Now U.S. officials aren't that worried about folks in Austin right now, but they are very concerned about the North's latest moves.

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LAWRENCE (voice-over): Look past the picture of Kim Jong-Un putting North Korean rockets on standby inside his military command. There's a chart marked U.S. mainland strike plan with missile trails aiming at Hawaii, California, D.C. and for some reason Austin, Texas. It's wishful thinking on Pyongyang's part. They can't reach the U.S. yet, but tens of thousands of American troops are well within range of a more limited strike, something short of an all-out attack.

CHRISTOPHER HILL, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO SOUTH KOREA: I think it's more in the sense of North Korea kind of getting right up to the edge, stumbling and then falling over the edge.

LAWRENCE: Former Ambassador Chris Hill says the real danger is the North shelling a border island like it did in 2010. Hill says there's a wild card here that worries the U.S., young, inexperienced Kim Jong-Un's desire to prove himself as a leader.

HILL: Because I think North Koreans are having their doubts about whether this kid is up to this.

LAWRENCE: So far Pentagon officials say the north's rhetoric has not been matched by any actual military moves, but it has no foreseeable end game and could go on for awhile.

North Koreans protested on the streets one day after the U.S. flew long range stealth bombers on a training run, coming within 50 miles of North Korea's border. Some say although the flights may reassure South Korea of U.S. protection, it could lead to unintended consequences.

JOHN PARK HARVARD UNIVERSITY: One China viewing this as alarming escalation. The second is that the North Koreans almost receive validation in terms of their missile development program.

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LAWRENCE: Senior defense officials say there was an intense debate over whether to send those B-2 bombers all the way up to the White House and senior levels of the National Security Council. He says the full range of options was considered with some urging the U.S. to do more than just fly the bombers and others saying the U.S. should hang back, hold back and do less -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much, Chris Lawrence.

So just how big a threat is North Korea? I'll get some answers from an expert who has been watching the regime for years now and the people who helped track down a California cop killer may not get the reward they expected. We'll ask our legal guys what the law says.

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WHITFIELD: So you've heard North Korea's threats to attack U.S. targets, Hawaii, Guam and the U.S. response. So just how big a threat is North Korea? International security expert, Jim Walsh is here to give us some context. So what's going on here, Jim? Kim Jong-Un, what is he doing?

JIM WALSH, INTERNATIONAL SECURIT EXPERT: Well, it's a great question. There are lots of theories here. Some people say he's ramping up the rhetoric and the provocations because he's speaking to a domestic audience. It's not about the United States. It's not about South Korea.

He's trying to rally support at home as he consolidates his position. Others theorized that maybe it's something in his relationship with the military. Remember, he inherited this job in what was called a military first society or maybe he's trying to bargain, provoke a crisis in order to improve his bargaining position.

Again, you know, North Korea is the least understood country in the world, the most opaque country in the world. So we have theories, but we don't have a lot of facts and we don't know which of them is true.

WHITFIELD: OK, now Kim Jong-Un is saying he is being provoked because of the U.S. military exercises taking place in South Korea. So why would the U.S. use, I guess, stealth bombers for these kind of attack practices given the climate right now involving North Korea?

WALSH: Right. Now the Pentagon has said this had been planned for quite some time even though it hadn't been done before. This was in the works for a while. You know, I don't know. It seems as if we have had a lot happen this week that we have never seen before.

I would say the U.S. purpose in doing this, there are a couple of reasons why. One is, they are trying to send a message to South Korea, U.S. treaty allies South Korea and to ally Japan saying, look, the U.S. is strong. We have your back. We're here. You don't need to get upset. We'll protect you. So it's ally reassurance.

A second thing is a message to North Korea. You keep talking this way and making threats and you should be clear about what the possible consequences would be. And then finally it may also be a way to speak to the American audience, the audience at home.

Because all the viewers out there watching CNN, they are seeing this stuff that's happening this week and they are wondering, you know, I get these questions e-mailed to me now all the time.

You know, are things really dangerous? Are we going to have a war? So I think it sends a signal of reassurance both at home and to our allies and a different sort of message to North Korea.

WHITFIELD: So North Korea says it will attack, you know, its enemies, quote, "If the enemies make even the slightest move. Is this what North Korea is talking about, these practice exercises, is that constitute provocation?

WALSH: Yes, well, we hear this every time we have had naval exercises. Since that island shelling in 2010, there have been a continuous series of naval exercises, huge exercises, U.S., South Korea, every time they happen this is exactly what North Korea says. So there's no change there.

So I don't expect them to start anything. You know, the fundamentals, this has been a bizarre week, Fredricka, but the fundamentals haven't changed. The fundamental is that North Korea doesn't want to start a war because it would lose a big war. So it wants to provoke just below the line of a big war.

My concern is not that they are going to commit suicide and start a war they are going to lose. My worry about this whole week and this whole month is that with new leadership and your reporter referred to this, new leadership in a bunch of different countries, someone just has to make a mistake.

You know, we're one dead fisherman from something escalating quite quickly. So I don't think anyone is deliberately seeking war, but people do make mistakes. There can be miscalculations, misperceptions or accidents, and I think that's getting through about this period right now.

WHITFIELD: And the interceptors at the U.S. has said it will continue to put into place, especially over the next year and a half or so, is this kind of a form of intimidation or is this letting South Korea know we stand behind you, we're in position just in case North Korea really does mean business just in case its long range missiles really do work.

WALSH: Yes, I think your basic theory there is correct, which is, it's a form of reassurance to make this announcement. But I think the people that the U.S. government is reassuring in this particular case with those particular interceptors, is the American public, not the South Koreans.

The B-52s, the B-1 planes flying over South Korea, that's a message of reassurance to South Korea. The interceptors beefing up theoretically missile defense in the United States, that's sending a message to the U.S. homeland.

That look, even though the North Koreans are doing all this stuff, we are still protecting you. We are taking action to counter the North Koreans. So I think that's a domestic message.

WHITFIELD: All right, Jim Walsh, always good to see you. Thanks so much. We appreciate it.

WALSH: Thank you.

All right, this weekend people are recognizing the Easter holiday weekend. Alexandra Steele is here. You know, weather is really important. People want have their Easter egg hunts, et cetera. But at the same time, you know, it's just about being together this weekend. So what's in store?

ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: And the peeps. You know, peeps on two fronts, right, no pun intended. It's also opening weekend. The boys of summer, you baseball fans, heading to the game tomorrow night at 8:05 in Houston, 75 will be the forecast at game time.

We could see about a 40 percent chance of showers, but it's a retractable roof so we'll have to see, I think maybe a few showers, certainly no washout. Then on Monday in the afternoon, 1:05 heading to the Bronx perhaps to see the Yankees, 56 degrees, it will feel colder than though that because of the strong, gusty winds.

So kind of keep the cap on because it's going to blow. All right, and then also on Monday at 4:10, this is where it's really going to be cold, 35 degrees at 4:10. It's going to be windy as well, not quite as windy as New York, but maybe 10 or 15 up to 20-mile-per- hour wind gusts.

So it's certainly won't feel like 35 probably feel like mid- to upper 20s. All right, here's the big picture and here's why it's going to be colder. There's a line of showers and storms. Not as kind of robust as they were earlier today. Not as much lighting around, they are all moving east pretty swiftly. So that's good news.

But they will get to New York and Washington for your Easter Sunday. So here's a look at today's forecast, the severe weather threat, I could think negligible, but it is moving eastward. There are a few showers here, kind of an unsettled weekend in the southeast.

The northeast, beautiful wherever you are, maybe Branford, Connecticut or Burlington, Vermont, northwest as well, sunny skies. There's an area of low pressure off the coast. Northern California gets much-needed rain for Easter Sunday tomorrow, but there's where it will be unsettled.

I think we're going to see the rain during the morning hours. So heading off to services in the morning in the southeast, be it Atlanta or Charlotte, Birmingham, but then it gets here to the mid-Atlantic in the northeast for the second half of the day tomorrow.

Big picture highs today kind of average, which certainly feels nice. Here comes the cold air. Highs today 51 in Minneapolis, 41 tomorrow, this is kind of the big tongue here of arctic air that moves in.

And then as we head toward Monday, it gets even colder. Fredricka, that cold arctic air once again gets to the southeast and the northeast and the mid-Atlantic, but there is good news. The second week of April, computer models showing it really warms up and April on the whole may wind up warmer than average, believe it or not.

WHITFIELD: OK, a little sunshine and warmth on the horizon, we'll be patient. Thanks so much, Alexandra. Appreciate it.

When police were hunting accused cop killer Christopher Dorner, rewards were offered for his arrest and conviction instead he died in a standoff with authorities. So what happens to those rewards?

And Amanda Knox faces a new trial in Italy for the death of her roommate. Will the U.S. extradite her? Next.

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WHITFIELD: A month and a half after that California gun battle involving a former L.A. police officer, a $100,000 reward for his arrest and conviction is being withdrawn. In February, Christopher Dorner was wanted for the killing of four people including a Riverside police officer. He was on the run for 10 days.

Then on February 12th, Dorner was finally located holed up in a cabin near Big Bear Mountain Lake. The cabin caught fire and officials say Dorner killed himself as officers closed in on him. Two claims have been made on the reward, but because Dorner was dead before capture, the city of Riverside said the criteria for getting the money was not met.

Let's bring in our legal guys, Avery Friedman, a civil rights attorney and law professor joining us from Cleveland. Good to see you, and Joey Jackson in for Richard Herman, Joey, a criminal defense attorney in New York and joining us from New York.

All right, good to see you as well. All right, gentlemen, Avery you first, you know, the city of Riverside argues that the reward was for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Dorner. But since he died before the arrest, no reward, it's being denied. Is this fair?

AVERY FRIEDMAN, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: No, it's absolutely not fair. Morally, I think it's appalling. But legally speaking, remember the reward was predicated on capture and conviction. So technically, the city of Riverside is going to duck out of their $100,000 contribution to what was supposed to be a $1 million reward.

Los Angeles this week said that it's disingenuous. That's kind. There's a public policy behind governmental support of rewards. I think it is terrible Riverside is pulling out, but ultimately it's a good legal argument. L.A. could dock out, but at the end of the day, Fredricka, L.A. is going to pay some kind of reward. I'm certain that's going to happen.

WHITFIELD: OK, well, Joey, you know, if not for the reports by the couple whose car was stolen and another man whose pickup was hijacked by Dorner, would authorities have even known that Dorner was in the very location where he died?

JOEY JACKSON, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Absolutely not. That's why, Fredricka, they are going to pay the money. I also think in addition to what Avery says, which I agree with, by the way, it goes beyond the moral obligation. I think there's a legal duty imposed duty for them to do it and here's why.

When you look at contract law, there was no written contract, but there doesn't need to be. When contract law is examined, you look at equity. Courts and contracts like to impose especially if there's a verbal contract. They like to hold people to their bargain.

So I think if there was a legal theory pursued or constructive trust theories, I think -- I'm pulling one back from a far. I think under the legal theories you can pursue them and successfully in order to get them to pay the money.

WHITFIELD: OK, but then will it resort to that? These folks filing the claims will have to take legal course or Avery, you know, will Riverside finally say, you know what, I'm hearing the arguments that Joey and Avery are making and so we're just going to give up the money.

FRIEDMAN: Riverside is dumping out of this thing. Really the question is, the big money was supposed to come from unions, Fredricka, and companies. The mayor was creating a fund in Los Angeles. So let's say we'll buy Joey's theory on this. I don't, but let's say a court does.

Where's the money? The unions aren't contributing, the companies aren't contributing. At the end of the day, there's going to be some money and it's going to be pennies on the dollar. Morally the right thing to do legally I don't think these applicants have a chance.

JACKSON: You get them to pay the money. That's how you get it, Avery. They are going to listen to you and I, and they are just going to fork it over.

FRIEDMAN: I had no idea, OK, great.

WHITFIELD: So let's move on to what's now become the retrial of Amanda Knox, earlier this week, the Italian Supreme Court judges ruled that Knox will stand trial again for the death of her former roommate, Meredith Kercher in Italy.

Knox and her then boyfriend, Rafael Sollecito, were initially found guilty in the murder and then were acquitted two years later on appeal. Amanda came home to Seattle, Washington, to finish her studies at University of Washington and now might be extradited to Italy stand trial again.

Joey, you first, this is an interesting lesson for everybody. In other countries sometimes the judicial system works differently. You can be acquitted and find yourself back in court to defend yourself. How?

JACKSON: Couldn't even imagine that happening in the United States. Why, our constitution, double jeopardy. There's an extradition agreement between the United States and Italy and it was enacted in 1984 under Reagan. It's bilateral. We like to respect each other.

But in these instances and particularly United States, we're huge in human rights. Our human rights say once you're acquitted, that's it. The prosecution can't appeal. So our law is different.

So I think at the end of the day, she will be retried and even if there is an overturning of that and has to come back to serve a sentence, she won't because the United States prediction is not going to cooperate and extradite her to Italy.

WHITFIELD: Interesting. So Avery, even though there is an arrangement between the U.S. and Italy where most cases someone would be extradited. In this case, perhaps she wouldn't? FRIEDMAN: Well, what's interesting, in the first place, one of the prosecutors, the Italian prosecutors let her go for. I mean, was it too much wine with a pasta? I mean, the truth is I don't actually think it's double jeopardy. I think because she was found guilty by a jury. But the foreign concept here is she was acquitted by a jury of an appeals court.

Something foreign to American jurisdiction, but here's the important thing. Even if she's tried in absentia, the State Department isn't sending her back. We have had U.S. soldiers convicted of murder in an alleged terrorist a long time ago.

You know what? The State Department is not extraditing. Yes, there's a treaty. Yes, the State Department is going to ignore it. She's going to go on a book tour in the U.S. That's what is going to happen here.

WHITFIELD: All right, Avery, Joey, we're going to see you again. We have other cases straight ahead. You'll be back in 10 minutes to talk about the wrongful death lawsuit civil case now involving Michael Jackson's estate and AEG, that concert promoter. Plus we'll be discussing a ruling that puts limitations on the use of animals like drug-sniffing dogs near your home.

All right, if you saw a lot of red and pink on Facebook this week, you're not alone. Facebook says millions of equal signs became profile pictures. More on the message behind that.

And the Cinderella story of March Madness does not end happily ever after this time.

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WHITFIELD: Same-sex marriage and Lil Wayne's health are some of the topics trending right now. Nearly 3 million Facebook users are showing their support for same-sex marriage by changing their profile photos.

On Monday, the Human Rights campaign started asking people to use its pink on red equal sign on their pages. The U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments on two cases this week that could change the future for same-sex couples in the United States.

Alaska Republican Don Young is apologizing for calling workers on his family farm wetbacks. The congressman said on Friday it was insensitive and he didn't mean to offend anyone. Initially, Young tried to clarify his statement by saying the term was commonly used when he was growing up. Now it's seen as a derogatory way to describe Mexicans who may be in the United States illegally.

And rapper, Lil Wayne is setting the record straight on his recent hospitalization. He called into a Los Angeles radio show and said he wasn't on his death bed and as some media reported. Lil Wayne said he has epilepsy and is prone to seizures. He did say this situation was more serious than previous episodes because he had three in a row. They don't call it March Madness for nothing. We started with 68 teams. All hoping end to up here in Atlanta for the final four, well, now we're at the halfway point and we're in, I guess, bracket for elite eight now. Andy Scholes has more in the "Bleacher Report."

ANDY SCHOLES, "BLEACHER REPORT": Hi, Fred. Well, the story of this year's run by Florida Gulf Coast is going to be a tough one to match for any future Cinderella team. The Eagles accomplished more than any 15 seed tournament history and for a while there last night, they looked like the run might not be over just yet.

"Dunk City" making its sweet 16 debut and the Eagles came out on fire going out to an 11-point lead, but FGCU's carriage would eventually turn into a pumpkin as Florida went on a 16-2 run to end the first half. The Gators experience was just too much to overcome for Florida Gulf Coast. Their Cinderella run ends into the regional semi finals with the 62-50 loss to Florida.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our plan wasn't to be some great national story. Our plan was to go in and compete and win games. But it was unbelievable to see the excitement and passion of not only our local community and the students but also on a national level.

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SCHOLES: The Kansas and Michigan matchup was built up to be a good one and it not disappoint. The Wolverines came storming back. That sent the game into overtime. Burke scored all his 23 points in his second half. Michigan goes on to win at 87-85 to reach the elite eight for the first time since 1994. More on this game, you can head over to bleacherreport.com.

So with Kansas out, that leaves Louisville as the only number one seed left to the tournament. Last night, continued to play like a dominant number one seed lead by Russ Smith's 31 points. They never looked back on their way to a 77-69 win. They advance to the elite eight for the second straight year.

Their opponent will be the two seed from their region, Duke. Behind a hot-shooting night from Steph Curry, the Blue Devils defeated Michigan State 71-61, that sets up a coaching matchup in the regional finals for the first time since Christian Late's famous game-winning shot back in 1992.

That game will be tomorrow. Later on today, two teams will punch their tickets to the final four. Syracuse will square off against Marquette. That game tips at 4:30 Eastern followed by the lowest seed left in the tournament, Wichita State taking on Ohio State. That will do it for the bleacher report. Fred, back to you.

WHITFIELD: Thank you so much, Andy.

All right, Michael Jackson's mother says AEG is responsible for the pop star's death. Our legal guys are back with the Jackson family civil suit and what that family hopes to get from the concert promoter.

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WHITFIELD: On Tuesday, the civil lawsuit against concert promoters for the late Michael Jackson begins in Los Angeles. The suit alleged the promoter, AEG Live, was negligent in hiring the doctor that would take care of Jackson. Jackson died in 2009 after being given the surgical anesthetic Propofol as a sleep aid.

His doctor, Conrad Murray, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and is currently serving a four-year sentence. So our legal guys are back to discuss, former prosecuting attorney and criminal defense attorney, Joey Jackson in New York in for Richard Herman this week, and Avery Friedman, a civil rights attorney and law professor joining us from Cleveland.

Good to see you both again. All right, Avery, you first, what does the Jackson family have to establish to help prove that AEG was negligent in hiring Dr. Murray?

FRIEDMAN: Yes, they got to show that there was negligent hiring. What's astonishing in this case is that they claim they are going to put the Jackson children on as witnesses. What on earth, Fredricka, would the children know about whether or not Conrad Murray was negligently hired?

It's stunning. The Jackson family is looking for $40 billion, that's billion dollars off of AEG Live. They are claiming they have a smoking gun e-mail. I think all that means is AEG Live was going to underwrite it. It had nothing to do with the patient/physician relationship between Michael Jackson and Conrad Murray, nothing.

WHITFIELD: So Joey, won't AEG say Michael Jackson requested Dr. Murray. He wanted his own doctor. In fact, he said he wouldn't go on without him.

JACKSON: Sure, they are going to say that. In addition to that, Fredricka, what's interesting is that what AEG is doing is they are going to use the molestation trial against him. You remember that, 2005, when he was acquitted and cleared of molestation charges --

WHITFIELD: Why is this relevant?

JACKSON: Well, I would argue, if I was sitting in judgment, I would say it's not relevant. But what they are saying, Fredricka, it goes to the issue of his dependency and that's when he began to be dependent upon drugs and alcohol as a result of that traumatic experience with the trial.

I think it's a risky move however because whenever someone starting trashing the victim, people already know it's widely publicize about that trial. When you start trashing the victim himself and be smirking the character of someone who is dead, I think it becomes problematic. It could backfire and have the effect that's unintended. It's a risky move by all accounts on their part. WHITFIELD: But at the same time, the burden of proof is very different in a civil matter than it is in a criminal matter, Avery, and in how will that decipher the potential outcome here?

JACKSON: Lost the signal.

WHITFIELD: Avery, I don't think can hear us. Joey, how would you answer that? It's different in a civil matter.

JACKSON: Well, first, Avery come back soon. What happens is in a criminal case, what you have is beyond the reasonable doubt. It goes to liberty. Whenever our freedom is at stake, the interest is so high that you want jurors to be sure as sure as the law allows.

Whenever you're issuing or dealing with something like money, the standard is less. It has to do with a preponderance of the evidence, which is it more likely or not has to do with the probability as opposed to almost a certainty.

WHITFIELD: OK, Avery, it looks like you're back.

JACKSON: He's back.

WHITFIELD: How do you see this, I guess, journey since the civil matter is different than one that would be argued in criminal court, why would the family pursue the civil matter?

FRIEDMAN: Right. I mean look, Michael Jackson was $400 million in debt. He's dead and he's dead because of Conrad Murray. They have to connect the two. I think that's a very tough burden.

Now whether they get any part of it should be considered a victory. But at the end of the day, negligent hiring, that's all that's left, that's all the California judge let go forward. That's what's starting the jury selection on Tuesday is going to be intriguing.

Look for a juror that's going to want to write a book about it. But at the end of the day, we're going to see if the estate can really show AEG Live being negligent in hiring Dr. Murray. I think that's a very tough way to go. It's a fact question I'm not sure the jury is going to buy it.

WHITFIELD: OK, we're going to move on to another case, the U.S. Supreme Court ruling on now dogs and the use of drug-sniffing dogs. This ruling comes in the case of a police dog being used to sniff out marijuana near the house of a suspect.

A Florida court rejected the evidence saying officers did not have probable cause to use the dog. The U.S. Supreme Court agreed. So Avery, is this a case of where does your property begin, where does it end as it pertains to a search warrant?

FRIEDMAN: Yes, I love this case, Fredricka. It involves an old and medieval term called "cartilage." Nobody knows the term, but what it really is, it's your porch, it's the garden around and Nino Scalia wrote for the Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision, a strange combination, saying unlike a car, when it comes to your home if a police dog is on your porch, that's part, you have to have probable cause and a search warrant. Therefore, the conviction was invalidated. . A victory, I think, for the fourth amendment.

WHITFIELD: Joey, wouldn't every police department know the parameters of this fourth amendment? Unreasonable search and seizure is what constitutes property?

JACKSON: Avery is laughing at that.

FRIEDMAN: Respectfully.

JACKSON: What happens is police generally push the envelope. Why? Because you want to get as much extension as you can. Remember what police do. They are detecting crime and deterring crime. So if you can bring the sniffing dogs around, just a little trickery. But in this case, they didn't get away with it. This one is for the dogs.

WHITFIELD: I like it that one. All right, thanks so much, Joey. Good to see you and Avery, always great to see you as well. Thanks so much, guys.

All right, the legal guys are here every Saturday at this time to give us the take on the most intriguing legal cases of the day. They never disappoint.

All right, coming up next, it was the home of Earnest Hemingway and it's a great place for you to get away from the cold aftermath of winter, all that straight ahead.

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WHITFIELD: Like everyone, you're trying to survive the cold. Well, maybe it's time to get away to a little sunshine. There's no better place to go than to Florida Keys. Holly Firfer shows what to expect in this "On The Go" report.

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HOLLY FIRFER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's a great time to head to the Keys.

SARAH SPAGNOLO, TRAVEL AND LEISURE: It's perfect in March, April and May. You're talking about shoulder season. So the weather is still great, high 70s, low 80s. You avoid the crowds, which will have less after spring break.

FIRFER: The Keys is a string of islands just off South Florida. U.S. Highway One connects the bigger islands to the mainland.

SPAGNOLO: It's a curly group of islands in Florida and it starts with the upper keys. This is home to the sport fishing capital of the country. It's also great for snorkeling and diving. Then you get into the middle keys, which is really family-friendly. There are places where you can bring the kids and they can explore the white sandy beaches. The lower keys are known to be green and quiet except of course, for Key West, which has the festive atmosphere, that really fun and different Victorian architecture.

FIRFER: Key West marks the southernmost point of the Continental U.S. and has been a haven for artists and writers including Ernest Hemingway.

SPAGNOLO: You have to go to Hemingway House. That's Earnest Hemingway's former residence when he lived in Key West. It's actually home to all of his six cats. Then from there, you'll want to go straight to Mallory Square to see the incredible sunset where all the crowds converge to see that orange sky.

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WHITFIELD: All right, for more on the Florida Keys, you can go to cnn.com/travel.

All right, why does this face represent a breakthrough? Find out the answer after this.

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WHITFIELD: I want to ask if the person you're about to see appears real to you. Take a look, just an average, ordinary person, right? Well, think again. That's not even a real life human. It's an animated graphic. It was developed by the company Activision and reveals at a gaming conference this week. You can look for this face or one like it on a computer game some day near you, encouraging or kind of creepy?

Company CEOs can always turn to the Cayman Islands or perhaps Bermuda for tax shelters. In today's "Smart is the New Rich", report, Christine Romans show us why the rest of us can find shelter as close as our front door.

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CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Your home can sometimes be a money pit. But come April 15th your daily shelter can be your tax shelter. First, you can duct mortgage interest. It's the third most valuable tax break in the country worth nearly $100 billion a year.

(on camera): When you're looking at your house for your deductions, the biggest chunk of that is the interest you're paying for your mortgage.

GARY DUBOFF, MANAGING DIRECTOR, CBIZ MHM: There's a limitation on mortgage interest. The first $1 million of debt on a property is tax deductible on your primary residence.

ROMANS (voice-over): Mortgage insurance is also deductible so are state and local property taxes, but if you lost money when you sold your house, too bad.

DUBOFF: Unfortunately, you can't deduct the loss on a sale of a personal residence. However, the IRS would want to tax the gain.

ROMANS: The first $250,000 of that gain is tax free if you're single, $500,000 if you're married. So get your calculator and any receipts for work that boosted your home's value.

DUBOFF: Your original cost plus any closing costs, legal fees and of course, any improvements you may have made throughout the course of the ownership of that home.

ROMANS (on camera): So like everything in taxes, keep good records.

(voice-over): Good records are key if you're taking a home office deduction. Figure out how much square footage you use for business and deduct that portion, but be careful.

(on camera): If you have an office someplace else, but working from home, can you use the home office deduction?

DUBOFF: No, as an employee working for an employer, it really has to be for the convenience of the employer. If you decide you want to work from home on a Friday, you won't be able to deduct those expenses as a home office.

ROMANS (voice-over): Next year you can use this formula from the IRS, $5 per square feet limited to 300 square feet for a maximum of $1,500.

DUBOFF: They simplified it with no questions asked. There's no risk of being audited if you're eligible.

ROMANS: Two more tax goodies hiding in your house. Certain energy efficient improvements can knock $500 off or taxes although that's down from $1,500 in 2011. If you move more than 50 miles for a job, you can deduct those expenses too. Christine Romans, CNN, New York.

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WHITFIELD: All right, would you like to own letters from Marilyn Monroe or perhaps John Lennon? We'll tell you how you can, next.

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WHITFIELD: Now checking our top stories this hour. North Korea's state run news agency says the country has entered a state of war with South Korea. Pyongyang has threatened to dissolve the U.S., but Washington and South Korea say this is not first time that the north has made such threats.

She was considered one of the nation's top school superintendents just a few years ago, but now she could end up in prison. A grand jury in Georgia has indicted former Atlanta School Superintendent Beverly Hall and 34 other educators. They are accused of corruption and racketeering for allegedly changing or fabricating student test scores. Prosecutors say the motivation was to get bonuses tied to student performance.

And a rare collection of letters will be up for auction in late May. An anonymous donor is selling 250 letters including an angry note from John Lennon to Paul McCartney after the Beatles broke up.

But the letter generating the biggest interest is from Marilyn Monroe. The actress penned a not to her mentor just before her suicide in 1962. Monroe wrote, quote, "I am still lost. I mean, I can't get myself together. I sound crazy, but I think I'm going crazy," end quote.

The items will be exhibited April 8th through the 16th at the Douglas Eliman Gallery in New York City. I'll see you in about an hour with the latest breaking news crossing our desk right here at CNN headquarters.

Plus, I'll have this exclusive interview, one former NFL player coming out after hiding his sexuality for years. Our interview with Quan Harris.

And he's facing murder charges many South Africa, but Oscar Pistorius just scored a big win in the courtroom. I'll tell you what has change for him.

But first, another week and another record for the market, but with stocks soaring, how will you know if it's time to get out? Ali Velshi has answers. "YOUR MONEY" starts right now.