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Mississippi Man Charged In The Ricin Letter Investigation, Live Coverage From Boston

Aired April 27, 2013 - 15:00   ET

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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us. I am Carol Costello live in Boston. And if you want to know what the story line is out of Boston this afternoon, it is that look at all of these people surrounding me.

Look at Boylston Street, almost back to normal. If you didn't know of the tragic event that is happened just a few days ago, you would have thought to yourself, wow, life is normal here. In fact, the mayor of Boston is urging people to come down to Boylston Street and spend money, because as you know, the stores, the businesses, the restaurants have been closed for a week or more and lost a lot of money. So, the mayor says come on down, the police will give you no tickets. Parking is free. Stay as long as you want. All I ask is you spend $25 to help the business people down here.

Now, there is a makeshift memorial that is from directly behind me and Poppy's. There are all of these people have come down to see this memorial and also to be one with Boston, so, everybody --

CROWD: Boston strong.

COSTELLO: You can see there is just a great spirit down here of Americans joining together and trying to bring Boston back to normal, trying to help Boston heal and even to me it is the greatest feeling.

Before we get into the investigation and what is new in the investigation and what's new about the suspects and the bombings here in Boston, we have to tell you about a breaking news story out of Washington, actually, out of Mississippi, too.

We just got word a Mississippi man has been charged now in the ricin letter investigation. Federal agents believe this man James Everett Dutschke sent a letter lays with poison to President Obama and two other public officials. The White House says the president has been informed of the arrested. Our Alina Machado has been following the story. She is in Tupelo, Mississippi.

What's the latest, Alina?

ALINA MACHADO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well Carol, we just learned from the U.S. attorney's office that James Everett Dutschke has been charged with developing and producing and stock piling a biological agent. That agent identified as ricin.

Now, James Everett Dutschke, as you mentioned, was taken into custody overnight between 12:30 and 1:00 in the morning. He was arrested here at his home in Tupelo, Mississippi. The FBI agents made the arrest and he was then turned over to the U.S. marshal's office.

Now, we first learned about Dutschke at a hearing on Monday related to the initial suspect in this case that. That man is Paul Kevin Curtis. Curtis had said that he had been framed and named Dutschke as a possible suspect in the case. On Tuesday all the charges Curtis was facing were dropped, and then the attention seemed to focus on Dutschke. Curtis was released from jail and Dutschke then was back here and we were told and saw FBI agents searching a former martial arts studio associated with Dutschke. We know they were here at his home here at his home here in Tupelo, Mississippi searching at this location.

Now, we have been here all day and talking to neighbors, people that have known Dutchke for a few years. We talked to one man named Dennis Carlock and here is what he had to say about the arrest.

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DENNIS CARLOCK, DUTSCHKE'S NEIGHBOR: I am glad they got him. Like I told before, I don't care how they got him, as long as they got him out of this neighborhood.

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MACHADO: Obviously, there is some tension here between the neighbors and Dutschke. Now, we have been in contact with Dutschke's attorney. Throughout the week she had been telling us her client had nothing to do with the ricin letters. Today, when we reached out after finding out about the arrests, she told us it is her understanding that Dutschke's arrest has been confirmed and she had no further comment -- Carol.

COSTELLO: I talked to Tom Fuentes, a CNN contributor and a former FBI guy, he said that authorities in the first instance, and I am talking about the first suspect they arrested, sort of rushed to arrest someone. What makes them so sure this time they have the right person?

MACHADO: That's a very good question. That's something that people are going to be asking, and looking to find the answer to over the course of the coming days. What we do know about Dutschke is that he is expected to be in court Monday. So, hopefully we will find out more and what it is that led investigators to feel confident enough to be able make this arrest here.

COSTELLO: All right. Alina Machado reporting live from Tupelo, Mississippi this afternoon.

And now, let's come back to Boston where I am and the bombing investigation.

We do have some new information coming in about the search for that laptop. I am sure you have heard about it, a laptop belonging to one of the suspects, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Authorities are combing a landfill 40 miles from here trying to find the laptop.

Susan Candiotti is live in Devens, Massachusetts to tell us where the search stands.

Hi, Susan.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Carol.

Well, the search is over. It lasted two days, Thursday and all day yesterday. And as you said, according to a U.S. official with knowledge of the investigation, the main focus of that landfill search was to look for a laptop believed to long to the accused up bombing suspect in this case, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

Now, did they find it? Officially, the FBI is not saying what if anything they removed from the landfill. So, we are still trying to find out whether that laptop was found. The reason that they were looking for it there came from according to our official source with knowledge of the investigation, this is a U.S. official, telling us that in part they were led there from interviews that were done with the suspect in this case as well as other investigative leads with people who also may have knowledge of what happened to that laptop after the bombing, and the apparent alleged attempt to get rid of it.

Now, we don't know again whether they found it. But if they do, that could contain all kinds of information about the context of the two main suspects in this case may have had leading up to the alleged plot, leading up to the bombing that happened in Boston as well as research they may have done looking into how to make a bomb, e-mails, appointments, calendars, phone numbers, this kind of thing, so, Carol, still waiting to learn more about that.

COSTELLO: I just can't imagine how they would ever find it. It is like finding a needle in a haystack, because even if they found it, it may be smashed to pieces in the landfill, right?

CANDIOTTI: Well certainly, if they did find it not knowing what kind of condition, you are right, it may have been in. Was there an attempt to smash it, wipe it clean? Who knows? Of course they hope it was in good enough shape they could retrieve information. And of course the FBI has evidence response teams and investigators and people that specialize in this kind of thing at Quantico, Virginia, at the lab and very good at trying to retrieve information from computers -- Carol.

COSTELLO: Hope they find something.

Susan Candiotti reporting live from Devens, Massachusetts this afternoon.

Another startling find and yes, authorities found something and you won't believe what it is, part of an airliner's landing gear wedged between two buildings at ground zero. The New York City police department announced it is likely from one of the hijacked planes flown into the twin towers, but it can't say which one. The question is how did it get there and why it was just found now? Alina Cho is in New York.

ALINA CHO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Carol.

This is such an amazing discovery on so many different levels. Here is what happened. It all started on Wednesday morning when surveyors were here looking through the backyard of this building behind me. They were looking to do construction work, and they stumbled upon what they call a mechanical part. They didn't know what it was. But upon closer examination they were able to see a Boeing serial I.D. number. And it was at that point they realized it was likely the landing gear from one of the hijacked plane that is crashed into the twin towers on 9/11.

Again, an amazing discovery for two reasons really. Number one, the sheer side of the piece. It is five feet by four feet by 17 inches in depth and where it was found. It was wedged between two buildings. The width of that space is just 18 inches which begs the question, how did it get there?

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RAY KELLY, COMMISSIONER, NEW YORK CITY POLICE: It is a big part, and obviously very, very narrow confined area. Somehow the part gets down here. Could it have been lowered at some time? It is possible. There is a rope that is on it. It looks like it is intertwined with that part. It would have had to fall down exactly. It hit at a certain angle that make it go right down.

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CHO: And this is incredible on another level. One of the buildings here behind me is actually the site of that controversial ground zero mosque. As for the investigation, the chief medical examiner and others will be back here at the site on Monday. They will be sifting through the material looking for toxins and possibly human remains. Of course this brings up so many terrible memories for the 9/11 families who call this discovery frankly outrageous and disgusting, and they say it is further proof that a proper search of the area after 9/11 was never conducted -- Carol.

COSTELLO: Wow. Alina Cho reporting for us from New York City.

Now on to something, well, you need to hear to believe. You won't be surprised after all. Maybe you will be happy if you have a flight scheduled. I don't know.

The FAA has suspended the furloughs of air traffic controllers and they say everything will be back to normal by tomorrow night. Thousands of flights, as you know, were delayed because some air traffic controllers were forced to take days off. Now, here is the catch and here is what I was talking about. That's the good news I just said. There is a flight hang up. It turns out the bill that is now on the president's desk that allows the FAA to bring back the controllers cannot be signed by the president because it has a typo in it, a miss spelling. A house GOP aide says it will definitely be fixed by Tuesday and also he added the delay will not keep controller from getting back to work so no more delays for you, just a slight delay in the form of a typo for that bill now on the president's desk.

Still ahead in the NEWSROOM, we will speak with the international security expert, Jim Walsh, about where new terrorists are being recruited and trained. Be right back.

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COSTELLO: Thousands of people here in Boston have come down to Boylston Street, to Copley square to remember and honor those who were hurt or die in the marathon bombings. Take a look. People are leaving flowers and teddy bears and American flags, runners left their shoes in honor of the victims and to remember them. There is poignant messages written on walls. You can't see it from this picture. But, this he have makeshift walls set up and people are writing messages, we love you, Boston. We are here for you. Stay strong, Boston. We are proud.

It is a magnificent day in the city of Boston and people are trying to get back to normal and frankly not let the terrorists win.

Welcome back to special coverage in Boston.

Even after visiting the Russian republic of Dagestan and taking an interest in jihadist groups, one of the suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev still flew under the radar of the FBI. A lot of questions like that. Are areas like northern Russia the new hot bed for terrorists that will target the west?

Jim Walsh is the international security analyst. He joins us now.

Welcome, Jim.

JIM WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Good to see you, Carol. I wish I was up there with you. Looks like a beautiful day in my home city.

COSTELLO: It is a gorgeous day. You would be proud of everyone. They're out here. They are spending money like the mayor asked them and they are just trying to live life as normal because they figure that's the best way to beat the terrorists.

In talking about the terrorists, we know the two suspects are from ethnic Chechen. Do we really need to worry about Chechen terrorists coming to the United States?

WALSH: You know, I really don't think so, Carol, primarily because even though there is extreme, extremism there and there is a long and bloody history, the focus, the target focus for Chechens and those in the caucuses has been Russia. The people they battled in the streets are Russian. The targets of their terrorist attacks have been Russian.

Similarly, I think in North Africa, another place where you have Al Qaeda elements and extremists of various kinds, that's an area of the world where does it border? It borders Europe. And so, I think there, the targets are most likely to be for reasons of convenience and also because of ideology, France or other states in Europe rather than the United States.

In the decade after 9/11, I think what you have seen is Al Qaeda central has broken up and sort of devolved. There are lots of local groups in Yemen and Northern Africa, but their focus is local. They are thinking globally and acting locally in a way that is unsavory but in some ways reduces the probability they would be able to execute attacks against the U.S. homeland.

COSTELLO: Yes. Everybody is trying to figure out why. So, did these two suspects just use Chechnya and what's happening there as an excuse? Are they actually Muslim extremists? I mean, in your mind what are they?

WALSH: Yes. Well, I think you know, at the end of the day, you have to say at least the younger brother, he is an American. And the older brother lived long enough in the U.S., didn't get citizenship but had a green card, lived here a long time and was unhappy as an American.

I mean, these folks are closer to home grown terrorists than they are what we normally think of as foreign terrorists. But that doesn't, you know, and I think they are in some ways that's the tough one, right? They didn't have a track record. No prior record of doing this. And they didn't have any affiliations with organizations.

I think the U.S. has done a very good job in the decade plus after 9/11 in targeting organizations abroad, following what's happening abroad, following people that have a record, a track record or have statements or other sort of data that would lead you to believe they could be suspects.

These folks were really off the grid. Yes, she showed up on the tide list but not compared to the other threats people are being looking at. But, as I look forward, you as I look to the future and I think the question is a good one, you know, where do we look as we look forward?

I don't worry about northern Africa so much. I worry about the future of the Syrian civil war. A lot of extremists are being drawn to Syria. Eventually that conflict will resolve itself one way or another Assad will lose or he is going to win, and then we are going to see what happens. Do those folks leave and then where do they put their sites? Who do they begin to target at that point? So, I think looking forward, we to want keep an eye on Syria. And that's one of the reasons why it has been a tough policy call for the U.S. Does it get involved and get stuck with the tar baby? Does it stay away but then let extremists begin to drive that train? That's why Syria is such a tough policy problem for the U.S.

COSTELLO: Jim Walsh, thanks so much. We appreciate it.

WALSH: Thank you, Carol.

COSTELLO: You are welcome. A new arrest in the ricin letter investigation, yes, a new arrest and another suspect in custody. We will have the latest details coming up.

Plus, a live interview with the attorney of the man wrongly accused of the crimes just last week. We will be right back.

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COSTELLO: We have a live coverage here in Boston. I am Carol Costello. Thanks so much for joining us this afternoon.

The mother of two bombing suspects says she thinks the attacks at the Boston marathon were fake and the blood was paint. She and her husband who appeared in a news conference in Russia left their home in Dagestan and are living in another part of Russia. The father's planned trip to the United States has been put off indefinitely. The mother jumped bail last year in Massachusetts on felony charges of shop lifting and destruction of property. So, new no word on when the parents will be arriving here in the United States.

An attorney for Katherine Russell, the American woman married to the deceased bombing suspect, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, says she knew nothing about her husband's alleged terrorist activities. Since the bombing she has been laying low at her parents' home in Rhode Island.

CNN's Erin McPike is outside that home.

ERIN MCPIKE, CNN GENERAL ASSIGNMENT CORRESPONDENT: Erin, the only time we have seen her in the past week was Tuesday morning and Friday afternoon when she left the Russell household with her attorneys. They took her both times to their office and on Friday afternoon she met with those attorneys for about 90 minutes. We don't yet know whether or not the FBI has gotten a chance to question her. Now, when she arrived at her attorney's office on Friday, I did get a chance to ask her how she was doing, and if she could tell us what was happening. But she didn't answer those questions and the attorneys ushered her right inside.

I can only tell you she just looked overwhelmed and bewildered with what was going on. We do know that security vehicles have been stationed outside her house all week and when a family member leaves a security vehicle generally trails them. We haven't seen Katie Russell outside the house other than meeting with the attorneys. We do know that the FBI is very interested what she has to know about Tamerlan, about Dzhokhar, and what was going on inside the tiny apartment they lived in Cambridge, Carol. But, as far as we know the investigation will continue until she does talk to the FBI, Carol.

COSTELLO: Eric McPike reporting live from Rhode Island this afternoon.

Still ahead in the NEWSROOM, charges filed in the ricin letter case new charges, we are going to talk to the attorney of a man who was wrongly arrested and talk about the new suspect and what we can expect. We'll be right back.

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KEVIN CURTIS, CLEARED IN THE RICIN CASE: I never heard of ricin or whatever. I thought they said rice. So, I said I don't even eat rice.

(END VIDEO CLIP) COSTELLO: That was Kevin Curtis, the Mississippi earlier believed who has sent that ricin blaze letter to President Obama. He is now free and clear. Certainly his life changed after that experience. Does he plan to take legal action for being wrongly accused now that police and the justice department rather has placed another man under arrest?

Christi McCoy, who was Curtis' attorney, joins us now on the phone from Tupelo, Mississippi.

Hi, Christi.

CHRISTI MCCOY, KEVIN CURTIS' ATTORNEY (on the phone): Hey, Carol, how are you?

COSTELLO: I am good. Thank you so much for being with us this afternoon.

The justice department, investigators have arrested a man named James Dutschke and this Mister Dutschke, I mean, Kevin Curtis is the guys who pointed the finger in his direction. Tell us how this all came about in your mind.

MCCOY: Well, actually, it is my understanding that when my client was arrested on Wednesday night and he was interrogated for several hours and gave them the name of Mr. Dutschke. Later we found out the FBI interviewed Mr. Dutschke on Thursday, that following day. We went throughout our proceedings. I never mentioned his name. His name was never really brought up until Monday in part of the hearing, you know, his name was mentioned as someone who may do this to him.

Even after that, there was no indication from the government that they were even looking in that direction. However, I have since discovered, and thankfully so, that even while they were investigating Kevin and had their sights on Kevin, they didn't stop there. They were following other leads. At this point, even after the arrest, I can't conclusively say what the tips were, what evidence they had. I do believe they have firm evidence against Mr. Dutschke that they just never had against my client.

COSTELLO: Does Mr. Curtis or you have any idea why Mr. Dutschke would allegedly send ricin-laced letters to the president and other public officials?

MCCOY: You know, it is pure speculation. But we do believe that Kevin was not the target, that this was an action -- this action was not designed to hurt Kevin. That was more of an afterthought, based on kind of what we know. We do believe that it was intended for President Obama, Mr. Wicker, and Judge Holland.

Now, I have been told -- and again this is not by law enforcement, that Mr. Dutschke -- he has run on the Republican ticket before in Mississippi on local races, so we know that he was kind of not in line with President Obama's issues and politics. And we have been told that Mr. Wicker had taken a stance recently that informs line with President Obama, and that that infuriated Mr. Dutschke. Again, that is just what people who know him have said. I don't know that to be the truth because, quite frankly, Carol, I can't imagine why anyone would do that. But I am confident that he did it. I am very comfortable and confident that I believe that.

COSTELLO: Well, and we should reiterate that Mr. Dutschke has been charged. He has been arrested. But of course, he has not been tried in a court of law.

MCCOY: Absolutely.

COSTELLO: He's innocent until proven guilty. Absolutely.

In regards to your client, Mr. Curtis, how has his life changed since he was suspected in these ricin-poisoned letters? And now he is cleared and now another man placed under arrest?

MCCOY: Right. You know, the last week or so -- now we're going on ten days, it has been such a roller coaster for Kevin. I mean, just the arrest in and of himself, it took him a couple of days to actually process. When I was meeting with him Thursday, I was -- I could tell that Kevin really did not have his mind around what was going on. And, for example, we went into a courtroom, and he is looking around and there are all of these people, media -- and he said are these people here for me? It is clear that he really did not grasp the significance of it.

Since he has been released, he has pretty much been on a whirlwind as far as -- the press, of course, is very, very interested. And we obviously wanted to accommodate, and we have done our first live interview with CNN. But then we went to New York and did a couple of shows there. At this point, he is just trying to decompress. Spend some family time and these are people that -- and I am going to guess Mr. Dutschke's family is the exact same way. These are people that go about their daily lives with no interruption or anybody even interested, so it has been quite a roller coaster.

But like I said, Kevin is decompressing now and trying to spend time with family and kind of taking a deep breath and trying to get back to his life.

COSTELLO: Yes. I can only - I can't even imagine, actually. Christine McCoy, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. We really appreciate it. Again, the Justice Department has placed another man under arrest and charged him with sending those ricin- poisoned letters to President Obama and to other public officials. His name is James Dutschke. As you know, authorities had originally arrested Kevin Curtis, and he is now cleared.

While investigators are figuring out what motivated the bombings here in Boston, people here are finding ways to move forward. They're rallying around their Celtics, especially. I will talk to one of the team's co-owners next.

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COSTELLO: As you can see, it is a very busy day here in the city of Boston. Everybody coming down to take a look at this makeshift memorial that sprung up in Copley Square. People are writing messages like stay strong, Boston and we love you strong - or we love you, Boston and we're here for you. I'm telling you, it is a beautiful site, and it is a beautiful day here in Boston, Massachusetts.

Welcome back to our live coverage in Boston. People surrounding me and throughout the city are honoring victims of the bombings in very many special ways. Sports fans even got a chance to honor local heroes and first responders at last night's Celtics game. Take a look.

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ANNOUNCER: And volunteers from the Boston Athletic Association, they are all and will always be heroes among us.

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COSTELLO: As you can hear, the applause was thunderous. It was the first home game since the bombings, and although the Celtics did win game three of the playoffs against the Knicks, the sense of unity was apparent throughout the arena. And that's really what's important.

Joining me now is Celtics co-owner Steve Pagliuca. He's also a managing director at Bank Capital, which has already donated $1 million to Boston's One Fund. That's incredible, Steve!

STEVE PAGLIUCA, CO-OWNER, BOSTON CELTICS: Yes, it's fantastic --

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COSTELLO: Wow! Well, tell us what it is and what it does.

PAGLIUCA: Well, the One Fund was set up very rapidly by the mayor and the governor to help the victims, and they have Ken Feinberg coming in to distribute the money, and I learned this had morning it is already over $25 million.

COSTELLO: You're kidding?

PAGLIUCA: I think in ten days now. So, the outpouring of support from everywhere in the commonwealth, from outside the commonwealth, it has been amazing. Sports teams here, I think collectively have done over a million dollars between the Celtics and the Bruins and the Patriots and the Red Sox. We've had a shirt out there - we had a shirt made, kind of a One Boston shirt. Warm up shirt. I think we sold 2,600 the first day, 2,600 the second day. And they're all sold out right now.

COSTELLO: Take a look around you and look at all these people. I mean, can you imagine?

AUDIENCE MEMBER: Celtics!

PAGLIUCA: Go Celtics! Boston. It is great.

COSTELLO: Doesn't it warm your heart? I mean, everyone is out here just to show their support and their love for the city of Boston. PAGLIUCA: It is amazing, and the Garden was just overwhelming on Friday night. Just a sense of unity. We had the first responders there, people from the hospital and people on the front lines that did all the heroic work out there. We always have a thing called Heroes Among Us. I think this is the record for the amount of heroes we had on the floor at the same time, and also a record I think for the outpouring from the fans in the Garden and outside the Garden. It was just incredible.

COSTELLO: I wandered through this makeshift memorial, and there are so many touching messages written on them. You know, balls that are set up there temporarily. People left their running shoes, their American flags. And I couldn't help but cry, and I would imagine last night was really emotional for you as well.

PAGLIUCA: It was really emotional. Boston is really a small town, and the pro sports here are almost like a college sport. And to have everybody focused on this and praying for the victims and caring for the victims, you know, my offices are right here looking down on this street. And we heard the explosions, and then learned and came over to the window and saw an amazing thing. Bostonians were running towards the people, not away from the bombs. And you heard the story before. They were actually diving in there and getting people ambulances. The governor told me that the first person operated on 27 minutes after the explosion happened.

COSTELLO: Wow.

PAGLIUCA: Which is incredible, and the governor and the mayor have done an amazing job. They've prepared for disasters. He told me in 2007 they started doing drills to make sure if there was a disaster, people would get to the right hospitals and they would have the ambulances lined up. And it was an amazing the response of this city from first responders and citizens to the government officials -- and very proud to be a Bostonian.

COSTELLO: And just to look around because it is amazing to me, the streets are cleaned and most of the buildings repaired. A couple of the restaurants are still closed, obviously, but people are out shopping, they're laughing, they're talking and nobody is panicking. I saw a few people embracing and crying. But others came to comfort them. And it seems to me that this best revenge is to get back to normal and live your life.

PAGLIUCA: Yes. Boston and America is really resilient. You saw that at the Celtics game. You see that in the courage of the victims that will affected by this for many, many, many year. And that's why this One fund at OneFundBoston.org is so important to raise this money to help those victims. It is just the outpouring and support has just been wonderful.

COSTELLO: Awesome. Thank you so much.

PAGLIUCA: It's great for you to be here. Thanks for covering this and all the help you guys have done here in the city.

COSTELLO: Anytime. Thank you so much, Steve!

PAGLIUCA: Thank you. Go Celtics. Have to get the one on Sunday.

COSTELLO: That's right. That's right! They will do it this time.

PAGLIUCA: I brought a little pin for you here.

COSTELLO: Oh, awesome!

PAGLIUCA: It says "Boston stands as one."

COSTELLO: Oh, I love that. I will put it on. Thank you so much. Very nice meeting you, too.

PAGLIUCA: Bye-bye.

COSTELLO: We'll be right back.

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COSTELLO: Welcome back to CNN's special live coverage out of Boston, Massachusetts. We're learning more about the social media presence of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, including a now-deleted Instagram account. The profile is no longer active, but some information is still available. Our Laurie Segall gives us an inside look into that account.

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LAURIE SEGALL, CNN TECH CORRESPONDENT: A deleted Instagram account sources say belonged to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Unlike the rest of his digital life, it hasn't gotten much attention since his arrest. Close friends say Dzhokhar used the name J Miester, but it was removed before the April 15th bombing.

But a digital trail shows images that he liked in the past. Several include references to Chechnya that are marked with dozens of hashtags. One shows a Chechnan warlord who masterminded terrorist attacks against Russia and but was killed in 2006. Several show Dzhokhar interacting with other users. An expert on Chechnya says is shows an understanding of Chechnya and its struggle for independence from Russia.

The close friends tell CNNMoney from what they saw he used Instagram for social purposes. So how are we able to resurrect them? here is how it works

SAM ALTMAN, PROGRAMMER/TECH ENTREPRENEUER: So, we're looking at a photo from Instagram on a site called Statagram, and this is the copy as it existed on the web today. We can see that these users, these 19 users have liked it, and we can see there are six comments on the photo. Here are the hashtags.

However, we can also go back in time, thanks to the Google web cache. Here is other data around that back from April 10th of the same photo. So, we can see there is the same six comments there are today. And here is a list of users that like the photo, most of which are already on there and there have been new ones since April 10 that have liked it as well. But there is one that liked it in the April 10th version of the page, jmeister1 that is not you can see on the current version.

SEGALL: Law enforcement experts like Julitette Kayyem say the deleted account is likely to get a close look from investigators.

JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: If I were an investigator right now, obviously the platform he deleted matters the most. Were there clues embedded in the combination of images that can tell us something about what Dzhokhar was thinking? Because some of those pictures are very benign, some standing alone don't mean anything.

SEGALL: Digital footprints continue to get bigger as people become more and more willing to put their lives online.

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COSTELLO: Laurie Segall joins us live now. So, Laurie, how valuable is this Instagram account for investigators?

SEGALL: We spoke to national security expert that says this is very valuable because we have seen the social media, Carol. But what we haven't seen is this account he deleted. So, you know, I can't connect these dots, but the idea that this account was deleted make it is valuable. So now we see what is the next step for law enforcement? Are they going to go to Instagram? Maybe they have gone to Instagram. They wouldn't comment either way.

But they are going to need more information than what we are able to scrape from Google's archives. They are going to need access to this deleted account because as you can imagine, there could be all types of information on there, whether or not they need to rule this out or whether or not it could lead them to something. Carol.

COSTELLO: And I am looking. I was looking at your story in a little tiny monitor, and I swore I thought his Instagram had 100,000 followers. Did I see that right?

SEGALL: No. If you look at it -- so his Instagram account, essentially it is completely wiped out except for these traces you can see on the web. But you look at his Twitter account now, it has 100,000 followers because after the fact so many people are accessing it and so many people are interested in his digital imprint and the mark he made on social media.

I think now the big question for investigators to find out who followed this Instagram account that's been deleted, who did he follow, and does any of this fit into the piece of the puzzle that they're trying to really make out?

COSTELLO: Laurie Segall, reporting live for us today. Thank you so much.

Friends and family of the eight-year-old boy killed in the Boston bombings are holding a memorial parade for him. It is really touching. You have to see it. We'll show it to you next.

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Rocky Erickson is a legend for fans of early psychedelic music. He's been making music since he was a child.

ROCK ERICKSON, MUSICIAN: It was something I could always look forward to, you know, if I would -- if I would get out of school early, then I can go home and play my guitar.

GUPTA: "The 13th Floor Elevators", "You're going to Miss Me", hit the charts in the 1960s.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have Rocky, 17, you know, making music, going on "American Bandstand".

GUPTA: His son Jegar recalls the day that his dad's world changed.

JEGAR ERICKSON, ROCKY ERICKSON'S SON: The cops focused on him. He got arrested for picking up a person, there was a joint found on him.

GUPTA: To avoid prison, Rocky pleaded insanity and was committed to a psychiatric hospital. He was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and treated with Thorazine, electroshock therapy and experimental medications.

J. ERICKSON: He described it a little to me and I didn't expect it. He said "Sometimes I hear something and (inaudible). I tell it to shut up."

GUPTA: What's kept him alive he says is his music.

R. ERICKSON: Find the things that you have that you love are important and make sure that you know you have them with you.

GUPTA: Every day is still a battle. But Rocky says his mental health is improving.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, reporting.

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COSTELLO: It is a gorgeous day here in Boston, Massachusetts. I'm Carol Costello. Welcome back to our special coverage.

I'm standing in the middle of a makeshift memorial. Just take a look at the people around me in Copley Square. It is amazing how many people are out and about just celebrating Boston. Just being here for the people of Boston.

Let me show you a couple of displays set up in the area. Take a look at this. Boston strong. Forever fearless. Bostonians united. There's some names on there. You see people writing messages. But many more people left wreaths and flowers and teddy bears. A lot of running shoes were left behind because the marathon was bombing and they want to show support. Over here we have stuffed animals. This is from elementary schools from around the Boston area.

Of course, as you know, that cute little eight-year-old boy died in the Boston bombing. He was honored today by his Little League team and will later by a choir here in Boston. We may attend that later tonight.

I want to talk to some of the people that are gathered here to pay their respects to the people of Boston to support them. Your name is Mary Jo?

MARY JO KNEAD (ph): Mary Jo Knead. And I'm from Cincinnati. And I have run and I've run in races and my son ran in the marathon in Minneapolis. And I ran the last little bit with him. And when all of this happened it just was like this is such a wonderful thing to do, and then to have something like this happen is just very emotional. And we're here on business and I said, we can't leave until we come down here. And I really wish I had a flower or something to put here for all of these --

COSTELLO: I think your presence here is good enough because that's what the mayor of Boston's asking. For people to come down here to Boylston Street, Copley Square to show the terrorist that is they can't win, to show that Boston is strong.

KNEAD: That's, you know -- the rest of the plan would be to stay down here and eat dinner, support the restaurants that are open again and just been -- it's been just -- I can't describe how it's felt to be here. We have been here since Thursday and where we're staying in Cambridge -- we were here last summer, MIT and Harvard, here for educational things. And then to look out the door and lock out the window and think, what it was like and to have a city locked down. I can't imagine it. And everybody is wonderful. How they're all back. You know?

COSTELLO: I know. Thanks to all of you for coming down. The mayor of Boston thanks you. The governor of the state thanks you. Thank you, Mary Jo.

KNEAD: Thank you.

COSTELLO: Appreciate it.

We'll be back with much more from Boston after this.

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