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California Shooting Suspect Identified; Missing Teacher's Car Found With A Body Inside; Mandela Hospitalized for a Lung Infection; Self-Help Couple Committed Suicide

Aired June 08, 2013 - 19:00   ET

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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Don Lemon.

We're going to begin with new information on that deadly mass shooting in California. Santa Monica police have identified the suspect. They're not releasing his name yet because his next of kin are believed to be out f the country.

We also now had new surveillance pictures of a suspect seen entering the library on the campus of the college. The suspect would have been 24 years old today. Santa Monica's police chief says Friday's mass shooting that left four people dead was almost certainly planned.

Let me go to Kyung Lah now live outside the police station. What are we hearing about the suspect's weapons?

KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, what we know about the suspect, even though we don't know his name, police are already identifying him as, quote, "a cowardly murderer." And as you said, Don, he was 23 years old. He would have been 24 had he survived that deadly shootout with the police.

What we also know is that he was heavily armed. Take a look at this arsenal that the police showed off to the media today. This is just a portion of what he had on him. It was all in a duffel bag, what you're looking at.

You can see the large number of magazine clips, those golden bullets sticking out of the clips as well as a .44 caliber handgun and the upper receiver of a .223 rifle found on the suspect.

And, again, this suspect was dressed in all black, wearing kneepads. They're saying that he was also carrying a fully ready .223 semiautomatic rifle that he used to hurt so many people here in Santa Monica.

He had an additional ability to fire off 1,300 rounds. That's just an estimate from the police. That's why they are saying that he was heavily armed and ready for battle.

The police department did say that they did have additional contact, that they knew they had contact with this man, the suspect, the gunman back in 2006, but he was a juvenile then, so they can't legally tell us what that contact was about. And as far as his connection to Santa Monica College, Don, we know now from the police that he did attend there in 2010 -- Don.

LEMON: Pretty frightening photo that we're just getting in.

I want to ask you something said in the news conference. Kyung, in the news conference, police talked about a safe room inside the library. What do you know about that?

LAH: You know, the police really credit their training, their quick response for all of this but they're certainly not discounting luck and the quick thinking of some of the students here. These were people who are in the library. And so, what they did is, they either had a room they could run to or they created this room. So, they ran into the little room, they try to stack as much as they could against the door but then through the plaster what police told us is that they could see and hear the bullets coming in. They dodged them by laying down, by trying to avoid being shot.

They say they simply do not know how those students survived inside that safe room but they are certainly thankful that they did, Don.

LEMON: Kyung Lah, thank you very much. I want to go to New Orleans where police today found a car belonging to a woman who has been missing for more than three months.

Heartbreaking. And there is something else. A body is inside that car. Police diver found the car in the New Orleans' bayou. No official word yet if the body is Terrilynn Monette, last seen March 2nd leaving a bar.

I talked with her mother a little while ago.

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TONI ENCLADE, TERRILYNN MONNETTE'S MOTHER (via telephone): It's very hard, it's very difficult. As you know, I've been coming down here since my daughter has gone missing and, you know, I just -- I can't believe that it has taken them this long to find this car. I'm just in shock right now. I'm in shock.

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LEMON: Terrilynn Monette was a teacher. She's 26 years old. Several police agencies and lots of volunteers have been searching the city and waterways around New Orleans since Monette was last scene.

Now we go to Philadelphia in the arrest of a man police have been searching and seeking in connection with this week's deadly build collapse. Sean Benschop was operating some heavy equipment at a demolition site when the collapse occurred. He was drug tested and found to have marijuana and other drugs in his system. Six people died when that four-story building crumbled on Wednesday.

Our Susan Candiotti has more now.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Don, here's what we can tell you about the man who has now been arrested. His name is Sean Benschop. He is 42 years old.

At the time of the building's collapse, police say that he was wearing a soft arm cast on one of his arms. We don't know what caused that injury. But immediately after the building came crumbling down, police did a preliminary blood test on him and the results show he had traces of marijuana in his bloodstream, as well as prescription drug medication.

Now, as they were preparing the warrant for him, police went looking for him but they weren't able to find him until Saturday afternoon when he eventually turned himself in. He is going to be charged now with six counts of involuntary manslaughter. That covers of course the six people who were killed when this building came tumbling down on top of a Salvation Army thrift store.

Also, he's being charged with 13 counts of recklessly endanger the life of another person. That involves the 13 people who are injured as a result of this, and one count of risking a catastrophe.

Now, two victims in this matter have already filed a civil lawsuit against the property owner of this area and the demolition company that he had hired accusing both of them of gross negligence. A spokesperson for the district attorney's office says that she hopes the arrest will bring some comfort to the victims and their families -- Don.

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LEMON: Susan Candiotti, our national correspondent in New York, thank you very much, Susan.

In what may have been an attempt to frame her husband, the FBI says a Texas actress now admits she sent ricin-laced letters to President Obama and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Still, Shannon Richardson claims her husband made her do it. She's now in federal custody. If convicted, she could spend 10 years in prison.

It remains to be seen if two days of talks helped President Obama and his China counterpart forge a friendly working relationship. Minister Obama and Xi Jinping talked a range of high taxes issues during their low key summit in California desert. The topics range from North Korea to environmental issues to cyber security. The president described the meeting with the Chinese leader as terrific.

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MAYOR CORY BOOKER (D), NEWARK: It's hard even to pick up a daily newspaper and not to feel somewhat skeptical about Washington, D.C. and our federal government. But I tell you today that I reject that attitude.

(END VIDEO CLIP) LEMON: That's Cory Booker and he wants to go to Washington to help change that image. New York's mayor announced his candidacy for the U.S. Senate today. The 44-year-old Democrat is running to finish the term of late Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg.

Right now, Booker's only opponent is fellow Democrat, Congressman Rush Holt. But others are expected to enter the race. The special election is set for October.

With his wife by his side and prayers around the world, Nelson Mandela is in a Pretoria hospital tonight battling a recurring lung condition. South Africa's first black president is in serious but stable condition. It's the fourth time in a year the 94-year-old anti- apartheid icon has been hospitalized. And this time, the government isn't downplaying it.

As Robyn Curnow reports now, Mandela's health has been slipping for some time -- Robyn.

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ROBYN CURNOW, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Don, South Africans woke up this morning again to the news that Nelson Mandela was back in the hospital. This is the fourth time he's been treated for a lung infection, pneumonia this year.

Now, what is different this time? Well, the use of the word "serious." The South African government coming out early this morning, saying that he was in a serious but stable condition. Now, for a government that is used to mostly downplaying Nelson Mandela's health, having tight control of information about it, this quite frank assessment had many South Africans worried.

(voice-over): These are the most recent photos of Nelson Mandela, taken in April this year at his home, surrounded by South African President Jacob Zuma, his doctors and some of his grandchildren. Mandela looked bewildered and didn't smile, reacting with discomfort as a flash goes off as he grandson takes his picture.

So different to the vigorous man who fought so hard and endured so much.

The former South African president has seemed frail and unsteady for some years now. Public appearances have become increasingly rare, too much effort for a man in his 90s.

But (INAUDIBLE), Mandela sometimes dozed off during speeches and seemed confused. His last official appearance was in 2010, at the closing ceremony of the World Cup in Johannesburg.

Throughout the past year, Mandela has been treated here for a recurring lung infection. Now, he's back in the hospital, rushed there in the middle of the night, again suffering from a lung infection.

MAC MAHARAJ, PRESIDENTIAL SPOKESMAN: Lung infections can spread very fast. I'm not a specialist in the matter but it does affect person's breathing, can be very serious and life threatening. And I think the doctors would be very, very careful when they're dealing with a man of his age. He has a history of this infection. It is containable, but it has to be securely located (ph) in the context of his age and frailty.

CURNOW: President Jacob Zuma has asked South Africans to pray for him.

(on camera): Well, Don, as South Africans now go to sleep, they're left with a familiar situation, a lot of anxiety, a lot of worry about a much loved icon, but also not a lot of answers about just how grave his illness in.

Back to you.

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LEMON: All right. Robyn, thank you very much.

George Zimmerman was in court today. Experts testified about screams heard on the 911 call after Zimmerman shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Hear how today's hearing might affect his trial that starts on Monday.

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LEMON: There's a critical hearing today in the George Zimmerman murder trial. It ends without a ruling. At the center of it, the screams for help heard in the 911 call the night Trayvon Martin was killed.

CNN's Martin Savidge is in Sanford, Florida, for us tonight.

Martin, is the jury selection still expected to begin on Monday?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It is indeed. That is the official start of the trial. The judge says that she sees nothing to prevent that from happening. There has been a motion, though, that's been filed by the defense team. They are hoping to try to delay it. They say they still need more time.

But Judge Debra Nelson does not seem to be in any mood to listen to that.

You know, speaking of listening, we've gone through now three days of testimony pertaining to the 911 call in which the fatal shot is captured in which there are screams before that shot is fired. Key here is trying to figure out if there was a way to determine who is screaming and what exactly they're saying. We believe it's someone screaming help.

Now, the defense is saying, of course, it was George Zimmerman. However, it's the prosecution that contends. No, it wasn't George Zimmerman. In fact, it was Trayvon Martin that was screaming.

The analysis of that is what's key here. And the defense has brought on some experts that have refuted the prosecution that claim they know who's screaming.

Here's the defense expert that finished up the testimony today, George Doddington.

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GEORGE DODDINGTON, ELECTRICAL ENGINEER: There are no worthy judgments or decisions that can be made on this data. This is the worst of the -- this is the worst possible forensic example.

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SAVIDGE: Now, the defense does not want anyone to come on the stand and make a claim that it is, in fact, Trayvon Martin screaming for help because, of course, that would absolutely destroy or throw great harm towards the George Zimmerman defense of self-defense, which is what she says -- Don.

LEMON: All right. We'll be watching. Thank you, Martin Savidge. Appreciate that.

A grand jury has indicted kidnapping suspect Ariel Castro on 329 charges. The former Cleveland school bus driver is accused of holding three women hostage in his home for 10 years. The indictment describes brutal treatment. One charge accuses Castro of aggravated murder for punching one of his hostages in the stomach until she miscarried. The bulk of the charges: rape, 139 counts, and kidnapping, 177 counts.

Just how much is Big Brother watching you? The government admits it gathers personal data without warrants. How deep does the government dig? That's next.

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LEMON: I want to tell you about some new developments tonight concerning the government collecting phone records on Americans. A request has been made for a criminal investigation into the leaks that led to stories disclosing the data mining process.

And tonight the White House is weighing in.

Jessica Yellin is traveling with the president. And she joins us now live from Palm Spring.

Jessica, I understand that one of the president's advisers has something to say about all of this now. What is he saying?

JESSICA YELLIN, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Don.

That's right. President Obama has wrapped up his meeting here in Palm Springs with China's president and -- where they talked about cyber threats. In the briefing about those meetings, they took a moment, some of his advisers took a moment to also answer questions about these NSA surveillance programs and pointedly said that there will not only be investigations about who leaked all of this information we've just learned about these surveillance programs, but we should also know that they have harmed our national security.

This is one of the president's top national security advisers. Listen.

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BEN RHODES, WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: What we're focused on doing right now, and you've seen this in the DNI statement, is frankly doing an assessment of the damage that is being done to U.S. national security by the revelation of this information, which is necessarily secret because the United States needs to be able to conduct intelligence issues without those methods being revealed to the world.

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YELLIN: Now, Don, I think that statement actually leaves for questions unanswered than it addresses because we actually don't know what kind of damage has been done. There's so much that's unknown to us. But, you know, the administration says these things are classified so we can't really end up knowing enough information to really ask the kinds of questions we want to ask, Don.

LEMON: That's a good point, Jessica. I saw an interview today with James Clapper also speaking out, saying the same thing. Can we assume, and maybe it's too early, that the information has harmed intelligence irrevocably in this country?

YELLIN: My understanding is the claim really is they're worried that people who would like to do us harm now have insight into however to work around our intelligence gathering. So, let's say some al Qaeda operative now knows not to use the Internet in a certain way. They can go around it and use the Internet in a different way based on the reports that they've read.

That's the kind of thing -- it tips off bad actor to the tools of the trade and gives them clues so they can invade our intelligence services. But the problem is we don't, you know, they raised the national security flag and say we're all in danger, but we don't know how true or untrue it really is. One of the big unknowns here also is how did somebody get all this information? How did they leak it? And does that pose a real threat too? Is there a hole at the national -- at the NSA that allowed somebody to download all these classified documents and get them out to the public, Don.

LEMON: Jessica Yellin in Palm Springs, thank you very much for that Jessica.

We're going to talk about this a little bit more now. Now that Americans are aware of what's going on, the data mining and the cataloging of phone records by intelligence agencies, it has started a fierce debate. But what rights are Americans willing to compromise in the name of national security.

We're joined by two men with different perspectives on this: First is Jim Harper. He is with the Cato Institute and has written about the danger of collecting mass amount of information on Americans. He's in Washington for us now.

And by Skype from London is Rod Beckstrom. He is a cyber analyst who says it's a good thing.

I want to start with you, Rod. You're not concerned about the big brother aspect to all of that?

ROD BECKSTROM, CYBER SECURITY ANALYST: I wouldn't go that far. I mean I think the government needs to have intelligence function that help to protect the country but of course any function like that, any programs have got to comply with the Constitution of the United States of America.

So I think that you know these revelations raise a lot of questions that you said and mentioned, you and Jessica, this is going to be debated and torn open between Capitol Hill and the White House and other places. So, I think it's the start of a very, very important national dialogue and I think we've got to take these issues very seriously in terms of how a proper balance can be achieved that supports the U.S. Constitution.

LEMON: OK. So, Jim, before, I have a couple of questions for you. But I want to ask both of you gentlemen this question.

Jim, first to you. Most, I think many Americans have already assumed that their information at least had the possibility of being looked at if you worked for any corporation, they can read your e-mails if they own your device or cell phones. They can look at your devices. They can monitor your phone calls.

What is so surprising about this information? First to you, Jim.

JIM HARPER, CATO INSTITUTE: Well, we certainly share a lot of information online these days, a lot of information with loved ones more and more all the time. We benefit a great deal from it.

But none of that gives the government the right to access this information, much less store it for long periods of time. We're talking about in this case, as much as seven years if Senator Dianne Feinstein is correct of records about all our phone calls.

This document right here, just four pages double spaced is the released document that Americans haven't seen in something like 230 years. It's a general warrant. A general warrant, something that the Revolutionary War was fought about because King George issued those, allowing his soldiers to rummage houses in the United States. This allows the National Security Agency to access information about every American's calls and catalog that information, keeping it essentially forever, very revealing information with very little security benefit.

And I think that's the important thing we need to talk about. The balance is not struck by collecting all information about all Americans calls. Heaven knows that the vast majority of Americans are good people who do nothing wrong and don't deserve to end up in databases like this. LEMON: So, having said that, if the vast majority of Americans are good people who have done nothing wrong, then what's wrong with looking at the information if you have nothing to hide then?

HARPER: Well, in the United States of America -- one hopes a free country -- you should have privacy for any run or no reason. We have a Fourth Amendment that restricts the government's access to information because the framers knew about the unique powers of the government. The government still has unique powers.

We want government to have power to investigate criminality, to discover terrorism. But they must do so in a particular way.

In fact, they have to state with particularity what they're looking for when they go to get a warrant. Again, this general warrant is the opposite of that. It allows the government to collect all information about all people's calls.

LEMON: Hey. So, Rod, the same questions to you. After 911, most people just sort of assumed that much of our information was being looked at any way. So, again, the same question that I asked before.

BECKSTROM: I got to side a little bit with Jim here. I mean, I think if these allegations are true and there's, you know even with the White House confirming in some way they are getting these phone records from all citizens through Verizon, that's extremely broad sweeping and concerning.

And I think even for some of those that help to shape the Patriot Act, even the author had some comments yesterday saying, you know, he really didn't anticipate it would be used like this. And that's the risk of legislation like the Patriot Act, that some of us were concerned at the time, the legality or the constitutionality of it.

So I think, you know, Don, the Internet has ripped the world open and everyone's data is vulnerable, including the government's. That's what we're seeing right now. The government's sensitive data is being leaked, we saw with WikiLeaks and the trial that's going on of Manning right now.

But we're moving into an extremely transparent world and we're going to have to change our structures to deal with that. And even intelligence organizations are going to have to realize the activities that they're doing will be probably put much more scrutiny than they ever have been in the past.

And with respect to citizens, Don, I think people thought some more things might have been happening after 9/11, but I think some people are extremely surprised by the breadth of the day that is spoken about in the warrant and the revelations.

LEMON: That this is indeed overreaching.

Thank you so much, gentlemen. We really appreciate you joining us here on CNN.

BECKSTROM: Thank you.

LEMON: Coming up, a New Orleans mystery may have been solved. Police have found a car belonging to a teacher who went missing in March. We'll take you live to the scene, next.

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LEMON: Half past the hour, a look at the headlines now here on CNN.

At least 11 people were killed and dozens injured in Benghazi, Libya today, during clashes between protesters and the militia with ties to the government.

It happened after demonstrators attack the headquarters of the Libyan shield brigade. It's been nearly two years since the overthrow of Moammar Gadhafi and many militias have yet to lay down their arms.

Two U.S. soldiers and an American civilian were killed today in Afghanistan. A gunman wearing a uniform opened fired on the Americans in an eastern province. The gunman was then killed. In a separate attack an Italian soldier was killed and three others wounded in the attack in a convoy of military advisers in western Afghanistan.

What used to be topical storm Andrea is causing problems along the East Coast today and flood warnings are out for New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island even as water levels are dropping right now. Three to four inches of rain fell on Boston and New York, especially Long Island. Just look at the mess there. And there are high surf advisories for Massachusetts, for New York which could be hit with three to six foot waves. Goodness.

A missing woman, an anguished family and a three month mystery in New Orleans may have an answer tonight. This Honda Accord was pulled out of the bayou just a short time ago. Police search crews looking for Terrilynn Monnett. She is a teacher who disappeared in early March. The car is definitely hers and there was a body inside. We want to get now to Monica Hernandez. She is down in New Orleans. She's with our affiliate WWL.

So Monica, do you have any idea when we're going to get an idea on the body found in this car?

MONICA HERNANDEZ, WWL REPORTER: The coroner's office took the body away just hours ago. It could take a few days because of the condition the body was in after being inside the bayou you for more than three months now.

LEMON: Tell us about the long search for Terrilynn Monnett. Volunteers from Texas, from Louisiana, police working in their spare time, why were so many people dedicated, why did they dedicate so much time to finding her? It certainly did take a while.

HERNANDEZ: You know, I have covered this story since Terrilynn Monnett first went missing and I can tell you that this has been a story that has touched the heart of the community from day one. I would go out and people would tell me "I'm a mother, I can relate to this hurting mother if my daughter ever went missing. I don't know what I would do and I just want to help." There would be volunteers coming out every weekend searching for Terrilynn Monnett in the woods, of City Park near the last spot where she was seen and there were crews volunteering to search out in the bayou behind me.

In fact, the area where her body was found crews had been out searching at least three times before. So there's a lot of questions about why the car hadn't been found before. But today a volunteer diver with the Slydell Police Department which is a suburb just outside of New Orleans came in, used sonar and was able to find Terrilynn Monnett's car and positively identify it and make sure that in fact there was a body inside. And help give this grieving family a sense of closure.

LEMON: You know, I spoke with her mother today, Tony Enclade and as you were speaking we're looking at pictures of the family and friends who are there and the media there and they certainly appear to be taking this hard. The family is at the scene. Tell us how they're dealing with this today, the discovery of this car.

HERNANDEZ: You know, for so long the family has said that they're holding out hope, that they believed that they would find their loved one alive. So today they looked on as her black Honda Accord was pulled out of Bayou St. John with a body in the driver's seat. You could see them tearing up, they were embracing each other. It was a very emotional day. There was a lot of community support here too. There were dozens of people, total strangers who never even met Terrilynn Monnett who gathered on the bayou to watch that car be pulled out of the bayou and to support her family in the time of grief. In fact, they we're so distraught that her father, Terry Monnett, told me we are very upset right now. We're too distraught to speak on camera and they walked off and went to go grieve on their own.

LEMON: Monica Hernandez with CNN affiliate WWL, reporting to us live from New Orleans. Thank you, Monica.

Not long after police found Terrilynn Monnett's car, I spoke with her mother Tony as I mentioned to the reporter there and at the time the New Orleans Police were being very cautious about what to tell her. Here's our conversation.

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TONI ENCLADE, TERRILYNN MONETT'S MOTHER: Actually to be honest with you I only know that her car has been extracted. As of yet I do not know the contents of the vehicle.

LEMON: They don't know the contents of the vehicle?

ENCLADE: No, I don't.

LEMON: We're looking at video now of the family members and people who knew your daughter in the median and it appears that everyone is just stunned and devastated. How are you guys dealing with this? ENCLADE: Yes. Well, it's very hard. It's very difficult. You know, as you know, I've been coming down here every month since my daughter has gone missing and, you know, I just, I can't believe that it has taken them this long to find this car. I'm just, I'm in shock right now. I'm in shock.

LEMON: How far is it, this is Bayou St. John where they found the car and she went missing in New Orleans. This is Slydell. How far away is this?

ENCLADE: What?

LEMON: From where she went missing to where she found the car, the city park where - this is city park where we're looking at the people who are gathering in the median here. How far from where he went missing to where they found the car?

ENCLADE: From her apartment or from which location? Where she was last seen at?

LEMON: Yes, ma'am.

ENCLADE: I would say that's about, what, maybe no more than five minutes. No more than five minutes from where she left from.

LEMON: Why are you surprised that it took so long to find the car.

ENCLADE: I'm surprised because they've had several departments that have been out there searching and, you know, I just don't see why it took them three months to locate this car. I just, I just don't. I just don't. And I think the more frustrating thing than anything is to know that she was there, possibly could have been there for three months.

LEMON: Did police tell you when you can expect to hear more from them on an identification?

ENCLADE: No. As of yet, no, they haven't. They haven't told me when I can hear more.

LEMON: You know, I asked you this question the last time and I have to ask you again. Have you prepared yourself for the worst?

ENCLADE: You know what, to be honest with you, I can't, I can't even begin to go there right now. I'm in shock. I can't believe this. I can't believe this. I can't believe this.

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LEMON: Our thanks to Toni Enclade and we're hoping it's not her daughter and they do find her alive but the possibility seems to be pretty remote that that's going to happen. We'll keep you updated.

Two self-help radio hosts who are dedicated to helping others take their own lives. Up next the chilling video of their advice to listeners. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

LEMON: I want you to pay attention to this story. It's very interesting. Two self-help coaches who host a radio show called "The Pursuit of Happiness" apparently committed suicide together in their Brooklyn apartment. This is video of the couple, psychiatrist Lynne Rosen and John Littig. They spent their lives promoting personal self- growth and inner happiness. I want you to take a listen.

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JOHN LITTIG, RADIO HOST: That's exactly right. Stepping out of your comfort zone is very important or you know, alternatively you can start to get comfortable with change.

LYNNE ROSEN, RADIO HOST: Yes, I like that. That's great.

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LEMON: So on Monday their building manager says he smelled a strong odor coming from their apartment, broke down the door found the couple's bodies holding hands on the coach. Police say plastic bags covered their heads. A tube attached to a helium canister was nearby and two suicide notes were found in the apartment. The man's note read "I can't take it anymore. My wife is in too much pain."

Behavior expert Wendy Walsh joins me now from Los Angeles. Wendy, this is very disturbing. What a sad story. All the people who take lives, take their own lives, these two people you would probably least expect. Why these two people?

WENDY WALSH, BEHAVIOR EXPERT: Well, you know, Don, we often teach best what we most need to learn. That doesn't mean that they were not very helpful to lots of people but obviously there was a piece of their own pain and suffering and in her case depression and I might remind you, yes, she was a psychiatrist and there are therapists out there that also suffer from things, just because you're a medical doctor doesn't mean you can't get cancer, right?

LEMON: Yes.

WALSH: So I think the other piece of course is that they had probably what I would cause a fused relationship, the pop psych term is co- dependent meaning that no one can remember whose problem is whose. So he sort of went down with her ship, if you will. Very, very tragic.

LEMON: We often teach best what we need to learn. Truer words have never been spoken, Wendy. Very good advise. You know, it's difficult to fathom what could have caused this. But this couple dedicated their lives to helping others so why couldn't they help themselves.

WALSH: Well, I think they were from time to time. I think they sort of rebounded from each other and bounced off of each other and used their teaching and the general public to help console themselves. But it sounds like she went through a bout of depression at that point, they were probably so fused that it caused depression in him. I mean, if one partner can stay solid and separate they can reach out for help.

LEMON: So you're a human behavior expert, you're a therapist. But therapists need therapists, you need to bounce something off other people, correct?

WALSH: Of course. I tell my Pilates girls you go to Pilates, she says absolutely. She has her own Pilates girl. We all need people whether it's therapy, whether you go to your church and talk to you pastor we all need to connect to people and talk.

LEMON: There is a statistic that is really quite startling and it's according to the CDC, suicides now kill more Americans than car accidents. That is huge. And I find it surprising. Do you?

WALSH: Absolutely surprising and just shocking to think. We always think that car accidents are the big danger here in America and now to think that our own killing ourselves of our own devices. But you know, I have to say, Don, that I think one of the problems in the country is our definition of happiness is that we have way too much focus on fame and money and if we don't have those things, we're feeling unhappy where there are plenty of cultures around the world where they have far less money and they report greater levels of happiness, Costa Rica even Mexico, Denmark and its because their definition of happiness has to do with healthy families, healthy relationships and safety and security.

LEMON: Let's talk about that. Let's have some self-therapy here on the air. Because it's things, owning things, having all these things. I'm going through a purging process right now, getting rid of lots of thing. I've never been happier. I find that most people, most friends, most people I talk to, I was interviewing one of our new hosts here on CNN, George Stroumboulopoulos and he said, "Don, I got rid of" - and he said this in an interview. I'm not saying anything (INAUDIBLE) "I got rid of so many things, I don't even have a couch in my apartment. I never have been happier in my life."

WALSH: Well, I would keep the couch but I do think purging can help because we give sort of an unfair attachment to the things in our life. But Don, research is pretty clear that money doesn't buy you happiness unless that money takes you just out of poverty into middle class. After that more money is not associated with happiness. And the research is pretty clear that things that can definitely affect your happiness are exercise, altruism, remember giving to others feels really good and also healthy relationships, good, secure family relationships.

Now in the last 50 years our modern capitalist society has been all about individual rights and freedoms, a mobile workforce that has torn people away from their extended families. So now with that technology the isolation that's happening. People alone with their computers in places. So it's contributing to unhappiness.

LEMON: Good stuff. Thank you, Wendy.

WALSH: Thanks, Don.

LEMON: We'll be right back.

WALSH: Good to see you.

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LEMON: Earlier this week a South African judge delayed the murder trial of former Olympic sprinter Oscar Pistorius by two months. At issue isn't whether Pistorius killed his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp but whether he did it intentionally.

Also this week new pictures of Steenkamp were released by one of her former friends. (INAUDIBLE) now reports, they show a very different side of the woman who was quickly becoming one of South Africa's top models.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Reeva Steenkamp was becoming one as one of South Africa's sexiest women on her way to becoming a world class model. This shows Reeva posing for the cover of FHM, a hot monthly magazine.

(INAUDIBLE) was the editor of the South African edition. She had, you know, beauty and intelligence which was double whammy.

Reporter: Intelligent enough to get her a law degree. Terry Smith remembers a much different looking Reeva when they were law school classmates.

Those pictures of her when you knew her, she does look different to the Reeva that, you know, I think Oscar fell in love with.

KERRY SMITH, REEVA STEENKAMP'S FRIEND: I think it's the whole modeling industry where you have to weigh a certain amount and it's very superficial. People see this glossy blond haired beautiful bodied woman and that's what they think she is as well. They don't realize what a fantastic person she is. She's not a dumb blond who just stares at a camera all day. (INAUDIBLE) of her bikini, very cliched saying. Beautiful on the outside as you are on the inside. That's Reeva. She was more beautiful on the inside. Really, she was.

Reporter: Smith took these photographs of the aspiring model at a local beach. In those days, modeling was more of a hobby for Steenkamp than a serious profession.

SMITH: She would always say modeling is not a career because your beauty only lasts so long. You have to do something. You have to have something.

Reporter: When Smith was in a relationship that became abusive Steenkamp was there pushing her to get out.

SMITH: She said you know, get out. You can't sit and accept being treated like that. She was incredibly patient throughout.

Reporter: Ironically, Reeva became an advocate for women facing violence and abuse. According to the country's medical research council, a woman is killed by her husband or partner every eight hours in South Africa. Steenkamp and Smith talked about helping these women.

SMITH: She wants to protect and save as many women as possible that she could from being abused. We always say we want to do, establish a (INAUDIBLE) for women.

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LEMON: It is no mystery who killed Reeva Steenkamp but was it murder or a accident. Make sure you join us for an hour long special that examines what happened that fateful February night including exclusive interviews with friends and relatives. "Oscar Pistorius: Brutal Murder or Grave Mistake?" It airs tonight in about 10 minutes here on CNN.

Next, a CNN exclusive. The mother of this sick little boy talks with CNN about her battle to save his life. She's trying to get him a lung transplant. The mother describes her race against time.

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LEMON: A CNN exclusive. An interview with a mother fighting to get new lungs for her sick little boy. A judge ruled her son and another boy are temporarily exempt from a rule that prevents kids under age 12 from quick access to adult lung transplants. Milagros Martinez already lost another son to cystic fibrosis. He died waiting for a lung transplant. She talks about her emotional journey.

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MILAGROS MARTINEZ, MOTHER OF 11 YEAR OLD JAVIER ACOSTA: This is like watching a movie that you have seen before and you want a different ending, basically. So, you are inclined to do whatever it takes to change that.

And it was very difficult dealing with that. My son was 11. He was a month shy of his 12th birthday when he passed.

But I'm very grateful all this has come about. Because it gives him the opportunity to change the ending of that movie, you know what I mean? This is a different outcome, hopefully, you know, should this come into effect. You know, and it will be a wonderful thing for him. He's also going through so much.

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LEMON: The mother's attorney says the group that sets national rules for lung transplants is expected to meet Monday and talk about its policy on child transplants. We'll update you.

Next, something you don't hear every day. I'll play it right after this.

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LEMON: Late night hosts have always had an uncertain, unnatural, I should say fascination with NBC news anchor, Brian Williams. The latest treatment, Jimmy Fallon's show, his team put together pieces of the anchorman's newscast so it looks like he is singing or rather, rapping. Look at Brian Williams performing

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BRIAN WILLIAMS, NBC NEWS ANCHOR: Straight out of Compton. Crazy mother from ice cube gang sawed off and hauled off in your neighborhood ice cube is crazy as I believe I'm stopping, when I say come straight out of Compton.

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LEMON: One of the guys posted that song, posted this (INAUDIBLE) and this reaction on Twitter. It says "He liked it." So he posted it.

I'm Don Lemon at the CNN World Headquarters in Atlanta. "Oscar Pistorius Brutal Murder or Grave Mistake" begins right now on CNN.