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Middletons Visiting the Royal Baby; One Cleveland Victim IDed; Snowden Misses Most Sensitive NSA Docs; Sgt. Murphy Learns His Fate; The Life of a Royal Baby; Climbing Mount Fuji with Google; Prince Charles Leaves Hospital

Aired July 23, 2013 - 12:30   ET

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: And, Max, you're right there at the hospital. Tell us what it was like.

MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Michael will like this one because the only comment he made on the way in was a gesture to the journalists, saying, have you been there long?

(Inaudible) about how long we've been here (inaudible) expressed that sympathy for us.

We'll get the proper comments when he comes out. I'm sure he'll speak to the cameras. Carole Middleton came earlier, spoke to the cameras. I'm sure he will after he's met his first grandchild and, of course, his heir, ultimately, after Prince William.

So this is the first time he's going to see his successor, so a truly exciting moment for him, a truly exciting moment for William as well to be able to introduce his father and stepmother to his new baby boy.

MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Yeah, a grandfather at last, he's obviously a very proud man. And you were saying your feeling is he'll probably pop out and say a couple of words.

FOSTER: Only because he would normally -- he's not shy of saying a few words, and if Carole Middleton does, I think he certainly would as well. So I think he'll come out and say something, so we'll keep a (inaudible) for you.

I don't know how long he'll be in there, maybe 15, 20 minutes, and then he'll come out, paving the way, potentially, for the couple to come out as well. If they're ready for visitors, maybe they're ready to be discharged as well. We'll see a bit later on.

HOLMES: I'm delighted for you, Max, after days and days of absolutely nothing, it has all been happening for you in the last 24 hours.

MALVEAUX: No, there's a ton of excitement. It's a party atmosphere.

HOLMES: Oh, yeah.

MALVEAUX: Max, I imagine people have been out there for many days, just like you, and this has really been a moment they've been waiting for.

FOSTER: Absolutely. There are big crowds here as well. I don't know if you can actually see, but they've brought all of the hospital staff out as well. And there's a bridge going over this area, but there's huge sense of anticipation here. People really want to see this new baby for the first time.

HOLMES: A bit of the crowd around you there, difficult to move that camera around. Max, let us know when they pop out and if they've got a word to say.

I want to go back to Kate, though, because the original thing we were going to talk to you about, which I think is fascinating, having lived in London for five years way back in the '80s, I was always amazed at the traditions in England.

They go back centuries, some of them anachronistic, but in many ways charming as well. I mean, we had the town criers out, announcing this. Tell us about that and why that originally began.

KATE WILLIAMS, CNN ROYAL HISTORIAN: We love town criers in Britain. We had them in the old days when people couldn't read, when there weren't any newspapers even if they could read, so actually, that's how the news was spread all over the country.

So when something like a great royal birth occurred, how are you going to know about it if you live in the middle of nowhere? Well, that's because the town crier will come out there. He'll pass the news from crier to crier through the towns, ringing his bell. And that's the reason why we have also the 21-gun salute. We had the 41-gun salute earlier, which was to announce to the country that a baby has been born.

And that's (inaudible) Westminster Abbey, the bells ringing, so you've had a pretty noisy time of it here in Britain, though, with the crowds, the criers, the bells and there are the guns, so there's no one in this country who doesn't know that a royal baby has been born.

MALVEAUX: And, Kate, what's amazing about that, too, is you've got the tradition, but you also have Kate and William as a modern couple, tweeting. They're tweeting the announcement as well.

HOLMES: Tweet and easel, yeah.

Kate, we've got to leave it there. Appreciate that, Kate Williams there.

The other thing, of course, now that it's a boy, we don't get to see the new law come into effect where if it was a girl she would be in the order of succession.

MALVEAUX: Right. This is more traditional.

HOLMES: Yeah, it's going to be the boy regardless of the change in the law. Yeah.

MALVEAUX: Well, this is another story we're following.

It could have been worse here. This is what U.S. intelligence officials are saying about Edward Snowden's security leaks. We've got the details, up ahead.

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MALVEAUX: Authorities have identified a second woman found dead over the weekend. This is in East Cleveland, Ohio. Now police say the woman's name is Shatisha Sheeley. She was 28-years-old from Cleveland. And she's one of three women found dead over the weekend wrapped in plastic bags.

HOLMES: Yeah, 35-year-old Michael Madison, you may have heard, has been charged with three counts of aggravated murder and three counts of kidnapping. Police think he may be a serial killer and they fear they are going to find, unfortunately, more victims.

MALVEAUX: And you know how worried officials have been about the NSA leaker Edward Snowden revealing a bunch of intelligence and the secrets behind it. Well, it turns out that the situation might not be as bad as we thought.

HOLMES: Perhaps. Here's Barbara Starr.

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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: A new intelligence community conclusion about Edward Snowden, it could have been worse. One U.S. official tells CNN Snowden did not get the, quote, "crown jewels" of the National Security Agency's secretive surveillance programs.

The confessed leaker did not get access to the most sensitive information, contents of intercepts of communications of terrorists and other countries.

The U.S. intelligence community has been reviewing what the computer programmer stole, according to a U.S. official. That's not to say it wasn't damaging.

ROBERT LITT, GENERAL COUNSEL: Our adversaries have noticed these revelations. It's too early to tell yet whether it is going to have an impact, but there's no question that they have sat up and taken notice.

STARR: Since the leaks, U.S. intelligence has seen signs of terrorists changing passwords and ensuring their communications are encrypted.

KEITH ALEXANDER, NSA DIRECTOR: We have concrete proof that they have already -- terrorist groups and others are taking action, making changes, and it's going to make our job tougher.

STARR: Officials insist they are not suddenly downplaying Snowden's revelations, and U.S. intelligence agencies are making security changes. It will now take two people to download some classified information, and information will be more segmented making it harder for future documents to be so easily grabbed.

ASH CARTER, DEPUTY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: There was an enormous amount of information concentrated in one place. That's a mistake.

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HOLMES: And Barbara Starr joins us now from the Pentagon. As always, a pleasure, Barbara. We heard a little bit there at the end of the report. Expand on that. What's to stop another disaffected contractor, another Edward Snowden, to go in there and do the same thing again?

STARR: Well, look, the reality is, if someone wants to commit a crime, anyone in the intelligence community will tell you they can do it. But they are putting new roadblocks in the way, passwords, two- man teams to download documents, electronic tagging, making sure not too much information is put on one server in one place.

Interestingly, a lot of this, they say, was already in the works. They believe it's very possible Snowden knew that and grabbed this before they could finish making all the improvements that they did.

So they do believe they're putting the things in place to slow it down. Any guarantees you can stop it forever? Probably not.

HOLMES: Thanks for you reporting, as always. Good to see you, Barbara, Barbara Starr there at the Pentagon.

MALVEAUX: And, of course, Snowden still in the airport there in Russia.

HOLMES: Hoping to get out in the next few days.

MALVEAUX: Yeah, U.S. officials still baffled, still worried about what's going to happen here, but you know, I mean, it's been weeks now.

HOLMES: He's hoping, or his lawyers are hoping, he's going to be allowed into Moscow in the next few days, in the days ahead, and then, of course, he's waiting to get to South America. We shall see.

Long time in an airport, though.

MALVEAUX: Wouldn't love that.

Who has four castles, a fleet of expensive vehicles ...

HOLMES: You.

MALVEAUX: Not me. Not that good.

Only about a day old, this is the royal baby boy, hat it's like to grow up royal, up next.

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MALVEAUX: Here are some of the stories making news AROUND THE WORLD.

This was a heart-stopping landing, this for about 150 people aboard a Southwest Airlines flight. This was Flight 345 into New York's LaGuardia airport. It was arriving from Nashville. Now this plane ran into trouble when it was touching down. You see it there, the nose gear failing. Ten people got injured when that happened.

HOLMES: Touching down, putting it lightly. Bashing down, really. The accident under investigation. Passengers, well, they're eager to say what happened.

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KATHY BOLES, SOUTHWEST FLIGHT 345 PASSENGER (via telephone): It was very clear as soon as we went down that something was really wrong, and we did not land on wheels.

AL RADFORD, SOUTHWEST FLIGHT 345 PASSENGER: A strong boom, you could tell something hit very, very hard. Was sitting right over the wings, didn't realize that the front of the wheels had come down at that point, until we came to a stop and then you realized we were tilted some.

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HOLMES: And the NTSB, by the way, says its early focus in the investigation is on the crew's actions upon approach. Not sure exactly what that means, but we will find out in the days ahead.

MALVEAUX: And the Massachusetts state police officer who leaked of the alleged Boston Marathon bombers' capture is now learning his fate, right now. Sergeant Sean Murphy, he was suspended for a day for releasing these photos without authorization. They were published on "Boston Magazine's" website.

HOLMES: Murphy says he did it because he was angry that "Rolling Stone" put that photograph of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on its cover. Murphy says it glorifies the bombing suspect. More than 59,000 people have supported Murphy on the "Save Sergeant Sean Murphy" Facebook page. There's always one of those.

MALVEAUX: At a closed-door hearing, three commission (ph) officers, they're deciding what further punishment, if any, Murphy is going to face.

The royal baby boy eventually will become the king.

HOLMES: You love that music, don't you?

MALVEAUX: I do.

HOLMES: You do.

MALVEAUX: I actually really do love it. For a couple of day at least, right?

HOLMES: Yes.

MALVEAUX: He's going to have to wait though, however. He's got to wait his turn (INAUDIBLE) moment. He's third in line to the throne.

HOLMES: Yes, and the one currently there doesn't seem to want to go anywhere, that's for sure. You can imagine growing up as a future king. Life's not going to be the same, as the rest of us. Well, I don't know about you.

MALVEAUX: Poor (ph) commoners that we are.

HOLMES: Poor commoners that we are. There will be plenty of volunteer work that will turn up in a lot of things. You will get a nice education, of course. And there will be cars that others will driver for you.

MALVEAUX: It is also going to be life within palace walls. CNN's Randi Kaye takes a look at the life of a royal child.

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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's good to be the royal baby. He's officially welcomed into the world with tolling bells and a royal gun salute. Not bad, aye?

But, wait, it gets better. When he leaves the hospital, he'll go home to a palace.

VICTORIA ARBITER, CNN ROYAL COMMENTATOR: Primarily the baby will live with William and Kate, obviously, at Kensington Palace in apartment 1A, which is the former home to Princess Margaret.

KAYE: But that's not all. The royal baby also will have access to at least three other palaces. His grandmother's home, Buckingham Palace and its 775 rooms, Balmoral, a sprawling Scottish castle where the royals like to summer, and Sandringham House, the estate where the royal family spends Christmas.

How many nannies do you anticipate this royal baby will have?

ARBITER: At this time there's no nanny. Let's remember, Kate grew up in a home where her mother was waiting for her when she came home from school. It was very family oriented. Her parents were at everything. They're a very close family. But I think in the beginning, if they - if they have a date night, I think Grandma Middleton will be roped into baby sit.

KAYE (voice-over): The duchess of Cambridge wants to be a full-time mom and raise her son with as small an entourage as possible. And when the royal couple's son is old enough to attend school?

ARBITER: Schooling will be probably quite similar to the way William and Harry were schooled, even Kate. William was the very first heir to the throne to go to a nursery school, a primary school. Charles didn't go to proper school until he was eight years old. Boarding school will definitely be in the future.

KAYE (on camera): Is it fair to say this royal baby will grow up fairly spoiled?

ARBITER: I think, yes, obviously this baby will be showered. But if you remember, Diana, she really took pains to make sure that William and Harry appreciated their position and how privileged they were. Yes, she took them to theme parks. Yes, they got to do all this fancy stuff. But they also went to homeless shelters. They went to AIDS hospitals without the photographers there.

KAYE (voice-over): What will the royal baby wear?

ARBITER: Kate is practical with her own clothing. So she's going to be well aware of the fact that babies grow very quickly. Often times between diapers and being sick, they can go through clothes quite quickly. So I think she's -- you're not going to see baby sort of all dressed out in baby Dior.

KAYE: And when he's out and about, keep an eye out for his trendy stroller that retails for about a thousand dollars. The Duchess of Cambridge has reportedly purchased a Bugaboo.

Being a royal baby isn't all fun and games. It's work. There are obligations. Royal children usually join the queen on the palace balcony for her birthday and attend other historic, royal occasions. And then there are the trips overseas. As a baby, William went to Australia and New Zealand with his parents.

KAYE (voice-over): As with any member of the royal family, security for the newest royal will be key. Princess Diana was able to take William and his brother Harry to theme parks and fast food restaurants, even movie theaters. Paparazzi were there, but in this day and age, the duke and duchess of Cambridge also have to worry about camera phones and regulating the general public. Judging from the looks of it today, that will be no easy task.

Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.

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HOLMES: And he'll be wearing nappies, not diapers, by the way.

MALVEAUX: Oh, they're called nappies over there? Is that right?

HOLMES: And he'll be in a cran (ph), not a stroller. And a cot, not a crib.

MALVEAUX: OK.

HOLMES: And the little thing in the mouth is not a pacifier, it's called a dummy (ph).

MALVEAUX: You know, either way, dummy or not, he's going to live a good life.

HOLMES: Oh, yes. There will be a -

MALVEAUX: Whatever it's called, right?

HOLMES: A gilded (ph) dummy (ph).

MALVEAUX: A gilded dummy.

Well, if you want to climb the world's tallest volcano without the sweat and tears of it all, there's finally a way. This is a view from Japan's Mount Fuji. Up next.

HOLMES: Yes, there's the Google guy climbing up.

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HOLMES: Welcome back.

If you've ever used Google Map's street view, and who hasn't, you know how cool those images can be. It really is great. The panoramic technology, city streets, all the way to the Great Barrier Reef. Pretty much anywhere.

MALVEAUX: Yes, it is really (INAUDIBLE). Well, it's true. Well now the street view is going to new heights, literally, to Japan's highest peak. This is Mount Fuji, of course. Our Diana Magnay takes us along for the ride. Watch.

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DIANA MAGNAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A lucky snapshot of Mt. Fuji from an early morning flight. A few months later, with the snow almost gone, we're climbing it with a team from Google Street View.

MAGNAY (on camera): That's really quite heavy. And, (INAUDIBLE), how many cameras have I got on top of this thing?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have fifteen.

MAGNAY: Fifteen. Wow.

MAGNAY (voice-over): The load bearer, Giro Dohi (ph), goes on ahead so our camera doesn't get in the way of his. Google's David Marx explains the concept.

DAVID MARX, GOOGLE: This year, in particular, with the mountain becoming a UNESCO World Heritage site, there's going to be a lot of climbers and it would be great if they were able to kind of see the trail before they got here and were able to prepare for it, whether mentally or physically or whatever.

MAGNAY: So far, Google's street view has trekked the Grand Canyon, parts of Antarctica and even a stretch of the Great Barrier Reef. And anyone on their way somewhere interesting can apply to take the trekker backpack with them.

MARX: The technology is set up to be so simple that you can train someone in about half an hour and then they can just go.

MAGNAY: Or that's the theory, at least.

So we're at station seven, but, unfortunately, the Google street view trekker camera is at station six and it's being -

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HOLMES: Great stuff there from Diana Magnay. But we're going to go back to London. Prince Charles and his wife, the duchess of Cornwall, Camilla, exiting the hospital there after popping in to see Prince Charles' first grandchild.

MALVEAUX: It was a brief visit. We expected it wouldn't be too long. But let's listen in.

PRINCE CHARLES: You wait and see. You'll see in a minute.

HOLMES: Said it was marvelous. I think that was the first thing he said.

Max Foster, I don't know if he's there and can fill us in. But, yes, a quick visit. How long was that? About half an hour or 40 minutes, 20 minutes maybe, I don't know. Not all that long. Popped in to see Prince William, his son, and Catherine.

MALVEAUX: And, of course, the heir to the throne, who we do not know his name just quite yet. We're going to - we're going to take a look at the pictures again of them leaving the hospital.

Max, tell us about this electrifying moment. And tell us what he said. We weren't really able to hear him. Maybe we can listen again.

FOSTER: Well, we all -- we all predicted he'd say marvelous, and he did. I didn't hear the last part of what he said. It wasn't a major statement. But he clearly had a big smile on his face. A thrill to see his grandchild for the first time. This is the future monarch, going to be following in his footsteps, of course.

So we had the Middletons, they've gone in. We've had the royal family, representatives have gone in. now, I think, the way is paved for the duke and duchess to come out on the doorstep. There's still a chance that will happen in the next few hours. So we're pretty much braced for that. I think it's more likely it's going to happen soon, Michael and Suzanne, than tomorrow morning. That's the other option.

HOLMES: Yes, we'll get the - we'll get the lip readers out for the rest of it. But, yes, I caught that marvelous myself and it's a word he likes to use.

What do you think? I mean you cover the royal's full-time. Was he really looking forward to this, this whole grandfather hood thing?

FOSTER: I think so. I mean I think he's got - almost got the since, and he jokes about it, but he's in his late 60s. You know, he should have been retired and he hasn't even taken on the top job yet. I think a lot of people, when they do get a grandchild, they -- it makes them feel a bit older. So - but I think, you know, certainly you can only be thrilled when your son has a healthy, very healthy, over eight pound boy. So I think genuinely and Camilla looked really pleased. I mean she's a professional grandmother. That's how she's been described. And she's going to throw herself in. Very close to Kate, actually.

HOLMES: Yes, thanks, Max.

MALVEAUX: And you are seeing again those amazing pictures.

HOLMES: Yes.

MALVEAUX: I mean these are the moments that people are going to remember.

HOLMES: Prince Charles, as Max saying there, the longest apprenticeship in history, waiting for the top job.

We'll be right back.

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