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Lamar Odom Lashes Out at Dad; NFL Sues Over Rude Super Bowl Gesture; Behind the Scenes at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT; Interview with Stars of `Mother of all Talent`; Woman Creates Thigh Art

Aired September 25, 2013 - 23:00   ET

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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Tonight, Odom explodes. Lamar Odom lashes out at his dad and then praises his real family, the Kardashians. You`ve got to hear Lamar`s shocking public rants.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know where you`re going to be? Will you stand above or below the equator for the delivery?

SIMON COWELL, JUDGE/COACH, FOX`S "THE X FACTOR" (via phone): You mean am I going to see it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HAMMER: Will "X Factor" judge Simon Cowell make an exit from the delivery room when his first child is born?

SHOWBIZ TONIGHT starts right now.

Thanks so much for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer. And it`s great to be here tonight with my guest co-host tonight, Natasha Curry, who...

NATASHA CURRY, CO-HOST: What`s up?

HAMMER: ... of course is the anchor of "WEEKEND EXPRESS" here on HLN.

Natasha, can you believe this massive back and forth that was so shocking today between Lamar Odom and his dad?

CURRY: Yes, it`s actually really sad, A.J. And Lamar has more than enough problems with his DUI arrest, his reported drug problems, trying to keep his marriage together with Khloe. So many things right now.

HAMMER: Yes, and the last thing that Lamar really needed was his own father trashing him, which he did in this startling new interview that was revealed today.

But within hours our heads were spinning once again when Lamar`s dad seemed to be trashing his own trash talking.

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JOE ODOM, LAMAR`S FATHER: We have, like, a lot of handsome men in our family.

HAMMER (voice-over): Lamar Odom`s always had a complicated relationship with his father, Joe, as we saw on the E! reality show, "Khloe and Lamar."

LAMAR ODOM, PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL PLAYER: I`m not asking him to be a father. I`m just asking him to act like you are my father.

HAMMER: Now that father-son relationship has become a lot more complicated. After Lamar`s dad, Joe, slammed the Kardashians in one interview, he immediately took it all back in another interview today, just hours after the first.

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADAR ONLINE: Lamar`s father, Joe, is blaming all of his problems -- the NBA problem, the drug problems -- squarely on Khloe Kardashian and the rest of the Kardashian family.

HAMMER: This all began with an interview posted on Radar Online. Lamar`s dad, Joe, blasting the entire Kardashian family. Lamar`s dad called the Kardashians the curse of his life.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN, REALITY TV STAR: I know that something is missing in my husband`s life. I know if Lamar were to hang around Joe just one more time, I really think Lamar is going to thank me.

HAMMER: Even though we saw Khloe try to bring Lamar and his dad closer on the reality show, Lamar`s dad told Radar, "She`s controlling." For good measure, he calls Kim Kardashian a porno star. And he saves his most bitter rant for Kris Jenner, calling the mama Jenner "an evil bitch."

TERESZCUK: He says she doesn`t care about Lamar. She only cares about her family and their image.

HAMMER: Now Lamar, who`s been lying slow ever since reports of his drug problems and marital trouble first surfaced, is standing up to defend his in-laws. Lamar tweeted today, "He`s disrespecting the only family that has loved me without expecting anything in return. They are the only ones that have been here consistently for me during this dark time."

And in what could be his first acknowledgment of his drug problem, Lamar says of his formerly drug-addicted father, "He is my downfall. His own demons may be the only thing he gave to me."

TERESZCUK: It is the first admission from Lamar that he is definitely in a dark place.

HAMMER: Now, Lamar`s dad is trying to make nice with the Kardashians. Today he told TMZ, "I feel like they`re getting a bad rep. I apologize for the things I had said previously. The family is a wonderful family."

TERESZCUK: This might be a point of reconciliation for he and Khloe. He might be thinking that "These are the people that really have my back, and they`re the ones I`m going to stick with."

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HAMMER: Watching this play out, I`m thinking if it`s not the strangest, it is certainly the shortest Kardashian-related family feud we`ve seen, at least in a while.

Lamar`s dad said his son didn`t have any troubles with drugs and his NBA career before the Kardashians came into the picture, and now Lamar apparently has troubles with both.

I want to bring in our good friend for our first burning question, Jenny Hutt, the host of "Just Jenny" on Sirius XM Radio.

So Jenny, was Lamar`s dad right when he said that the Kardashians are to blame for Lamar`s troubles? I mean, it seems a bit farfetched to me.

JENNY HUTT, HOST, SIRIUS XM RADIO`S "JUST JENNY": First of all, let me start with his dad needs to be quiet, unless he`s there to say, "I love you, my son, and I`m going to do right by you, be there and take care of you unconditionally."

Had he said that, I`d be a bit more pleased. My issue is to blame the Kardashians, it`s just the wrong move altogether. And it`s also without merit, that sort of statement, because the Kardashians, they love their own, they protect their own. They take care of those who fall under their umbrella. So I just think it`s totally out of whack.

HAMMER: Yes. No, it sounds like a bunch of B.S., quite frankly.

HUTT: Yes.

HAMMER: Jawn Murray, our friend who`s also the editor in chief of AlwaysAList.com, is here.

Jawn, the Kardashians are certainly responsible for lots and lots of things. All of Lamar`s problems, it`s highly unlikely to me. What do you think?

JAWN MURRAY, ALWAYSALIST.COM: Absolutely. I mean, look, Lamar is -- this is for the first time -- is taking ownership that there is a problem. And so, you know, he needed to acknowledge that. His father is totally out of line with what he said.

However, I too, was a skeptic initially, A.J. I have to say: the timing of this story. It was broken by a TMZ reporter who is a known friend of the Kardashians. And it broke the Friday after Kris Jenner`s test run of the talk show went off of television. So the timing of it was a little conspicuous.

However, the dad is still out of line and inappropriate for what he said about her.

HAMMER: Out of line and inappropriate. I mean, I`m not a big fan of name calling at all. Anybody knows me knows that to be true. And let`s not forget what Lamar`s dad first said before he took all of it back. He called Kim -- I believe the word he used was "porno star." And her mom...

MURRAY: That`s pretty accurate, though, A.J.

HAMMER: It may be accurate, but throwing it around there in a public interview like that just doesn`t seem appropriate.

And then, Jenny, you know, all of a sudden it this big about face. I actually think somebody got to him and said, "You know what, Pops? Reel it in."

HUTT: Yes. You`re going to be swimming with the fishes.

Look, I think that what Jawn just said about the timing of the announcement and the story, that still doesn`t make the Kardashians the ones who are culpable here. Lamar has a drug problem. That is not their fault. That`s just all I`m saying.

HAMMER: So Natasha Curry, what exactly is the Kardashian family saying at this point about Lamar`s public beef with his dad?

CURRY: Well, A.J., E!, which is the network that airs "Keeping Up with the Kardashians," is reporting today that seeing Lamar defend the family was, quote, "very emotional" for the Kardashians and comes as promising news.

And we`ve got another battle tonight that could be called the battle of the initials. This is totally different.

The NFL versus MIA. They NFL just sued the rapper for giving us all the middle finger during the Super Bowl last year. MIA flashed her middle finger during her halftime performance with Madonna.

Now the NFL is suing her for a million and a half dollars, accusing her of breeching her contract, her performance contract. Well, MIA just responded by delivering a nasty hit with a YouTube video. Watch.

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MIA, RAPPER: The NFL thing is completely ridiculous. It`s a massive waste of time, a massive waste of money. It`s a massive display of just how corporate (EXPLETIVE DELETED) shaking. They want me on my knees and say sorry so they can slap me on my wrist.

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CURRY: All right. That`s got to hurt, Jenny. Our burning question is whose side are you on in the whole football finger fight? MIA`s or the NFL?

HUTT: I`m on the side of the NFL, I have to tell you. I read a bit about some of her assertions. And she`s saying to the NFL, "Come on, guys. I gave the finger. So what? Look at the girl who are scantily clad." Why is she bringing up the girls who are scantily clad? Who cares? The issue is she broke the law. You`re not allowed to give the finger on TV. She chose to do it on TV. Keep your fingers like this.

CURRY: Jawn, what do you think?

MURRAY: Natasha, I could not agree more. I`m with the NFL.

First of all, they didn`t even publicize that they were filing the lawsuit. Like, we know about it because she ran her mouth. She wasn`t even an invited guest. You were a guest of Madonna`s. Janet Jackson was there, and she had Nipple-gate. Her career took a hit. Pay the fine and, MIA, go on about your business.

HUTT: She has insurance. She`ll be fine.

CURRY: I`m sure she will be, and we`re all talking about her. It can`t be bad for her career.

Now, MIA calls the lawsuit ridiculous, though. Even her attorney is saying that this is going to be settled privately. But Jenny, I don`t really think of it as, you know, making it to court. What about you?

HUTT: I don`t really think this is going to end up in court. That would be a waste of everybody`s time. Settle it. Let the insurance company pay and move on. I mean, grow up.

She chose to give the finger on national TV during the Super Bowl. What did she think was going to happen?

CURRY: Jawn, what do you -- what do you say to that?

MURRAY: This is gross entitlement. You know you did something wrong. Pay the fine. And if anything, do a rap song about the NFL. Get your revenge that way if you want to redeem yourself. But stop with all the -- You`re not the victim and, you know, blaming other people. You did something wrong. Pay the price.

HUTT: Right.

CURRY: Am I the only one? Because I was just watching Nicki Minaj, and like, you know, her lyrics were more offensive to me than the finger. What happened?

HUTT: Yes. With Nicki Minaj and the lyrics, things get bleeped out. The fact is, whether the volume`s on or the volume`s off, or there`s a bleep or not, if you give the finger, people knows what you`re saying, right?

CURRY: Yes. That`s true.

HUTT: And it wasn`t this. It wasn`t that.

CURRY: You got that right. Well, Jenny and Jawn, guys, thank you so much -- A.J.

HAMMER: We move now to the challenges of finding your one true love. Think about it. You have eHarmony and a lot of people say, well, too many questions to answer there. Professional matchmakers can be way too expensive to some people.

So what about finding love with a giant billboard? That`s exactly what Gordon Engle did. I guess he figures that the road to romance starts with a highway billboard. But I want to know: Did this actually work? Well, Gordon is here to answer that question and so many more questions that I have tonight.

Also this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will you marry Lauren?

COWELL (via phone): Let`s put it this way.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HAMMER: Is Simon Cowell getting hitched?

Simon, here`s a little tip for you: ditch the V-neck T-shirts if you`re going to take a walk down the aisle. Not a pretty look in church.

This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.

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HAMMER: Well, Sheryl and Tia right here with us tonight. So great to have you guys here. We`re going to find out more about "Instant Mom" in just a moment.

You know, we have such a great time bringing you SHOWBIZ TONIGHT every single night, but how does all the magic happen? Well, tonight we are pulling back the curtain to take you behind the scenes and reveal how we get this show on the air every night, and I swear it`s not with Krazy Glue.

Diana Madison from Hollyscoop.com and "The Lowdown" hung out with me all day long to uncover the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

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DIANA MADISON, HOLLYSCOOP.COM: What`s it like, you know, day-to-day to be on the show? How does your day start, how does it end?

HAMMER: It`s a -- it`s actually a great experience every day, because the nice thing of doing an entertainment news show is it is something different every day.

And we start off at 8 a.m. We have an editorial meeting where the brain trust that is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, a really talented and smart bunch of people, get together in the morning to sort of hash out what the stories are and what the angles are going to be on the different stories that we`ll be covering every night, coming up with our "Countdowns," which we love to do.

And then the day kind of unfolds. It`s a lot of getting familiar with the stories. I have some other responsibilities. I`m on HLN throughout the day many days. I`m on CNN throughout the day with entertainment reports.

And ultimately, by about 2:30 the show has kind of come together. Hopefully, a little earlier. And then we go through all of the segments and review. And if we`re on track, if the train is running on time, by about 3:30 in the afternoon we head to the set and begin taping.

MADISON: Has anybody else been in your office and seen this? Is this your guilty pleasure?

HAMMER: Yes.

OK. So you`re now looking in the section that is primarily books that were sent to me prior to an interview. I went through them, and then I put them there. And there they have sat except for all this time, except for -- and you ask any disc jockey who was around before the proliferation of the Internet, and they have Joel Whitburn`s book. And I actually -- all this information is now obviously online. I actually still keep this here.

MADISON: Justin Bieber. Let`s talk about him.

HAMMER: Yes, what`s going on with the Biebs? I was sad to see some of this behavior that Justin Bieber has been going through and the way his celebrity is manifesting itself.

MADISON: Yes. Do you think Miley Cyrus maybe has the wrong people around her? She signed with Larry Rudolph who we know is the manager of Britney Spears. She`s definitely taking a very Spears type of approach to her career. What do you think about that?

HAMMER: Listen, this is her artistry. Who am I to say, "Don`t express your artistry"? I don`t think this can necessarily work in the long term.

Welcome to Control 41.

MADISON: Nice.

HAMMER: This is one of five almost exact duplicate control rooms here at the HLN/CNN world headquarters in New York. And this is where the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT show is directed from every day. A wonderful staff of really talented people sitting in all these rows. Our director sitting over here. Our technical director sitting in front of the Starship Enterprise over there. And this is where they put it together.

MADISON: Thanks for having me in your office and your space.

HAMMER: Well, thanks for what you do. I think it is the wave of now and the future.

MADISON: Thank you. Let me get a hug for that.

HAMMER: Let`s get a hug.

MADISON: Let`s get a hug for that.

HAMMER: You`re squishing my microphone.

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HAMMER: Good times. Diana Madison with the "Lowdown with Diana Madison" and Hollyscoop joining me now from Hollywood.

I swear, Diana, I wasn`t drinking. I look so chill during that whole day. But what a good time. We`re like besties now. What was really surprising to you about the day we got to spend together?

MADISON: You are really chill. I realize that you have this amazing office space that`s really Zen. And I got to know that you`re really spiritual. You have that one corner that you go every day and relax. And I learned that you do a lot of charity work and you take a look at this one photo in your office, which you`ve got to show it to your viewers that`s really cool. And that always keeps you Zen and humble. It brings perspective to you.

And I love the art work in your office space. And to have a clean office, because my office is very dirty. I have a lot of clutter. So I actually started cleaning my office ever since I came to yours.

HAMMER: Clutter in the office, clutter in the mind. It all goes hand to hand. My only regret from the day, and I say this in all sincerity, but it didn`t really work out. I would have highlighted the staff here at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT a whole lot more, just because they are the real people who make this thing happen every day. I just kind of show up and do my thing.

Charles, do we have the control room shot? That`s all we can show, unfortunately, with that camera. The front row there. Charles getting a little extra plug. But I want to show that off.

And thank you for highlighting the show and spending the time with us. I really appreciate it.

MADISON: Well, I love your show. It was really fun to come in and invade your space: your studio and your office.

HAMMER: All right. I hope everybody checks you out on Hollyscoop. Diana, thanks again.

Well, here is another behind-the-scenes secret that I love. It`s all things Apple. Tonight, I`m going to introduce you to a 4-year-old who`s not a fan of the new Apple operating system for iPhones and iPad at all.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What`s different?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everything.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you`re just going to have to get used to it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I don`t want it.

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HAMMER: Some people like their OS a certain way. This is going to call -- be called an iTantrum. Guy is not having it at all with all these new bells and whistles, and now his reaction has gone viral.

Also Simon Cowell, the dad.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know where you`re going to be? Will you stand above our below the equator for the delivery?

COWELL: Oh, do you mean am I going to see it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HAMMER: You`ve got to hear what "The X Factor" judge just said about witnessing the birth of his child. This is pretty startling.

This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was told by Apple Care that I could walk in the store and get the part.

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CURRY: That woman`s epic Apple store meltdown went viral online. But now a 4-year-old who`s been totally crushed by the new Apple operating system is upping the ante. Here`s CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with one kid`s massive meltdown.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We adults clutch our smartphones like babies with pacifiers, and now babies hold smartphones like adults. So why should we be surprised...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What`s different?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everything.

MOOS: ... when a 4-year-old has a meltdown because Apple changed its operating system?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Your friends never looked more attractive.

MOOS: Four-year-old Jack isn`t laughing over Apple`s new iOS 7.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you`re just going to have to get used to it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. I don`t want it.

MOOS: At its launch, iOS 7 may have been cheered, it brought Jack to tears.

(on camera): The dad who posted the video says his son doesn`t actually own an iPhone. He just uses his father`s iPad. But that didn`t save Jack from being mocked.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t want it.

MOOS (voice-over): As one poster noted: "Children in Africa upset because they don`t have clear water and food to eat. Children in America upset because of iOS 7."

(on camera): I especially like the guy who posted "When I was four the closest thing I had to an iPhone was an Etch-A-Sketch. Siri, do you even have a clue what an Etch-A-Sketch is?

ROBOTIC VOICE: I suppose it`s possible.

MOOS (voice-over): Siri`s getting grilled by iPhone users in diapers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)

ROBOTIC VOICE: I don`t know what you mean by "W-W-W."

MOOS: Before anyone criticizes Jack`s tantrum, adults do it, too. Jimmy Kimmel had a field day with a customer who walked into an Apple store, thinking she could pick up a certain part.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was told by Apple Care that I could walk in the store and get the part.

MOOS: That tirade got the ultimate tribute, harmonized by the Backstreet Boys.

BACKSTREET BOYS, MUSIC GROUP (singing): I was told by Apple Care that I could walk in the store and get the part.

MOOS: As for Jack, his dad told ABC he`s already fine with the new operating system. He was upset mostly because his dad told him he would never see the old operating system again.

But when Apple demoed the new version...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It got some thunder brewing.

MOOS: ... little did they know...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, yes.

MOOS: ... that a 4-year-old would be the one thundering.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t want it.

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CURRY: You know, A.J., I haven`t updated mine yet, because I think I`m going to have the same reaction. But my friend Tiffany said it best, A.J. Sometimes kids express what we as adults want to express. You know? You get upset like that, you need a nap, you want to cry about it. Come on, right.

HAMMER: I`m just glad Jack`s dad didn`t try to put him on an Android phone. That would have been all kinds of hell.

All right. This next story might make you cry like a baby. You know that frightening Discovery Channel show "Naked and Afraid."

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m a pretty shy person, and the fact that I`m going to be running around naked with somebody I don`t even know, I`m not scared, I`m absolutely terrified.

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HAMMER: So now a haunted house in Pennsylvania is trying to amp up the scare tactics this Halloween with a naked haunted house. It would scare the pants off of you if you had any pants on.

Also a naked thigh becomes a beautiful canvass. It`s the eye-catching art that you`ve got to see to believe. And you will.

This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.

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HAMMER: Right now we are counting down the top three buzz makers extending their 15 minutes of fame.

Date me. It`s not even easy for rich guys to find love these days. So tonight, the millionaire who resorted to putting up a billboard to find love is right here. Did it work? Gordon Engle will answer that question and reveal why he went to such extreme measures.

Also, did Simon Cowell take Gordon`s lead and finally settle down?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will you marry Lauren?

COWELL: Let`s put it this way.

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HAMMER: Is Simon about to get hitched and give up his bachelor ways for good? I will reveal the big clue.

SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues right now.

Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thanks for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer with my guest co-host tonight Natasha Curry, the anchor of HLN`s "Weekend Express." We`re kicking off tonight`s "15 Minutes of Fame" countdown with our number three. The guy who just became famous when he started looking for love.

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HAMMER: With a billboard. Look at this. It says, "I`m Gordon, let`s have dinner! Help Gordy find love!" Nice. And Gordon lives in North Carolina, but he put the billboard up in Chicago, because that`s where his parents are from and that`s where they met. Gordon`s with us tonight in Charlotte. It`s nice to meet you. Let`s take a look, take him full, Charles, let`s see the guy.

A lot of people would say you`re the whole package. Man, you are apparently very wealthy. You`re a good looking guy and I hear you play the guitar. Women love that, Gordon. Why in the world would you, of all people, need a billboard to find love, my friend?

GORDON: Do I only get 15 minutes, though?

HAMMER: Well, we`ll see how it goes.

GORDON: You know what, I think it`s real - it`s just real rough out there. It`s a jungle. And I think people, including myself, are a little bit tired of the whole match, you know, the Internet dating. You don`t meet somebody in a grocery store in the produce section anymore. So, it`s tough. And let`s try a billboard. I mean 20 bucks a month for match.com or throw out some real coin for a billboard. Why not.

HAMMER: Well, talk to me about what`s happened since HelpGordyFindLove.com was first advertised. First of all, how long has this thing been up there? And tell me what kind of traffic you`ve gotten, do you have the women just knocking down your door now?

GORDON: I get a lot of applications. I have a website with, you know, you`ve got to apply. I`ve just got some questions on it. Not knocking down my door. And one of the problems is I`ll get people that are a long ways away. And I don`t really want to do the long distance thing. I live here in Charlotte and I also live in Sweden. So .

HAMMER: Yeah, but it`s up in Chicago. What did you think was going to happen?

GORDON: Well, you know, I think a show like that can maybe give me more exposure so that maybe somebody in Charlotte would see it.

HAMMER: OK, what`s - hey, here we are talking about it. Putting it up there. But tell me about these women that you`re meeting from this billboard or at least that are filling out these applications. Are they so different from the women that you have met elsewhere?

GORDON: I think so. Because I think what I`ve done is, you know, people take me more serious. I mean I want to be honest, A.J., I think the kind of woman, and this`s going to sound strange, but this is going to be my ideal match, probably not going to be somebody that`s going to respond to a guy on a billboard. I know that sounds ironic. But here`s the thing: I`m really taking a risk in doing all this. And I think there`s somebody special out there for me who also believes in taking risks. Because at the end of the day that`s what life is all about, right?

HAMMER: Yeah.

GORDON: Taking risks.

HAMMER: Well, no, and you make a great point, you make a great point. Is the person who is going to respond to a billboard really the person that you want to get involved with, but the truth is, you never know. But here is what I need to know. You said .

GORDON: Yeah.

HAMMER: What - match.com, one of the dating websites, those are, however, 10, 20, 30 buck a month.

GORDON: Right.

HAMMER: How much are you spending on this bill board.

GORDON: It`s a few thousand bucks. But people spend a lot more that on a house, a college education and a car. Even one of those three things, and I think this is nothing to find the love of your life. It`s really a small amount if you want to figure that - the girl of your dreams, your wife, she`s going to be the most - should be the most important thing in your life. So, what`s a few thousand bucks? Anybody can scrape together a few thousand bucks. You don`t have to have a lot of money.

HAMMER: Hey, listen. They advertise .

GORDON: And, you know.

HAMMER: They advertise beer on billboards. They advertise jeans on billboards.

GORDON: Yes.

HAMMER: Why not look for love. Gordon, we`re going to live it there, but I`m going to wish you the best of luck. And you`ll have to come back and let us know how it all works out.

GORDON: Thank you, A.J.

HAMMER: All right, you got it.

NATASHA CURRY: Oh, I can`t wait to see that.

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CURRY: All right, coming in at number two on our "Countdown". Two women who will reveal the secrets to extending 15 minutes of fame of kids. Nikki Golarzai (ph) and her daughter Lorri Tierney are with us tonight in New York. So, Lori owns her own casting agency in Vermont. It works for her. And we`re going to see them in action on a brand-new show called "Mother of All Talent" premiering October, 2nd, on the TV Guide network. So, ladies, thanks for being on. You`re getting - you have some pretty tough casting agents, I`ve got to say that and on the show we see you picking apart these wannabe child stars. Let`s watch first.

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LORRI TIERNEY: This girl? No?

NIKKI: No. Here. She has a mustache. What the hell is this? She`s got Christmas Tree braces on her mouth. What? Special skills. Let me see. She draws. Who gives a [EXPLETIVE DELETED] if she draws? The smiling is the special skill - burping. I don`t want it. That annoys me.

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CURRY: Nikki, why so tough?

TIERNEY: Crazy, right?

CURRY: Right. So, I mean you guys have to be tough. I mean, but isn`t it tough to be tough on kids?

NIKKI: Not really.

CURRY: It is a problem, right?

NIKKI: No, not at all. I want them to succeed. So, I have to be tough sometimes. I mean you can`t be a unibrow and you can`t have a mustache. They have to fix that problem. I want their dreams to become a reality in their best interest.

TIERNEY: That`s true. She may come across as brash, but the truth is, Nikki has a kind heart and she really does have the children`s best interest at heart.

NIKKI: Yeah.

TIERNEY: But sometimes the parents don`t.

NIKKI: That`s true.

CURRY: Oh, very, very good point there. Yes. Sometimes you get that going on. And you`re also tough on the so called mamagers, speaking of which, moms who, you know, manage their own kids. Let`s watch them with that.

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NIKKI: It`s not lined up.

TIERNEY: I don`t want - I don`t want her - but maybe you could do .

NIKKI: Take the piece off. A little twizzle, shave, whatever you .

TIERNEY: A little bit. So, you look like you might have modelled before.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah, I was I was (inaudible). I was a former play maid (ph). And I did .

NIKKI: What?

TIERNEY: Oh, my god.

NIKKI: Did you tap him?

TIERNEY: I went to the mansion.

NIKKI: Did he tap you?

TIERNEY: Yes.

CURRY: Wow. Lorri, so I mean it`s like the little girl`s there for the casting audition or is her mom and her two friends?

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TIERNEY: Well, that`s exactly, exactly. We find - we - that comes across pretty often to us.

NIKKI: It does. It does.

CURRY: Really?

TIERNEY: A lot of the moms vicariously want to live through their kids.

NIKKI: Yes.

TIERNEY: This was their dream and now .

NIKKI: They are trying to pursue it.

TIERNEY: They are trying to pursue it.

NIKKI: through their child.

TIERNEY: So, we do try - so, Nikki does sometimes protect the child from the stage mom.

NIKKI: Oh, yes.

TIERNEY: Believe it or not.

CURRY: That`s wonderful to hear too.

NIKKI: Yes.

CURRY: Because, you know, I`m sure sometimes things can get a little bit overboard. So, Nikki, what`s the secret then to these kids not being famous for just 15 minutes? How do they push it past that?

NIKKI: Well, each child has to be judged. You know, every child has a different type of personality, a different type of look. You have to observe the child and make a fit for them. Maybe a child that`s not very acting - you know, if she doesn`t have acting abilities, she would be definitely good for print pretty.

TIERNEY: I think to extend the longevity of their career is first and foremost the children have to want it.

CURRY: Yes.

TIERNEY: They have to be the ones that are driven. And we have seen that, too, in the business.

CURRY: Yes.

TIERNEY: We have seen where the kids are completely driven begging their parents, please take me to an audition. Please. And you know what, I always tell the parents, if your child wanted to play soccer, you would sign them up for a soccer team.

CURRY: Yeah, so, great point. And someone who beat what, you know, could be called the 15 minutes of fame curse, Raven-Symone became famous on the last three seasons of the "Cosby Show" back in the `80s. We just uncovered her audition tape.

NIKKI: I remember.

CURRY: From 1985, which she was just three. Watch quickly.

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RAVEN-SYMONE: I`m Raven-Symone. See, now I can (inaudible) R, A, V, E, N, S, Y, M, O, N, E. And I`m three years old.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you know when your birthday is?

RAVEN-SYMONE: September 6th, 1985.

COSBY: But September.

RAVEN-SYMONE: No, September - no - OK. 1995.

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CURRY: Aww. What a memory. Nikki, Lorri.

TIERNEY: I love it.

CURRY: Yeah, we know, it can happen. And Nikki, Lorri, thanks so much, Ladies.

TIERNEY: Thank you.

NIKKI: Thank you.

CURRY: That leaves us at number one on today`s countdown of the top three buzz makers extending their 15 minutes of fame. Here is your one little hint. This woman takes art to a completely different level. You`ve never seen anything like it. I promise.

HAMMER: Yeah, it is pretty crazy. Looking forward to seeing that in just a moment. But right now I have got to tell you about this. Simon Cowell`s delivery room shocker.

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HAMMER: Do you know where you`re going to be? Will you stand above our below the equator for the delivery?

SIMON COWELL: Oh, do you mean am I going to see it?

HAMMER: Yeah.

(voice over): OK, look, it may be a modern era, but did Simon really confess that he`s afraid to see his baby`s birth? Who does that? A daddy of delivery room. Talk about naked and afraid.

COWELL: I`m a pretty shy person. And the fact that I`m going to be running around naked with somebody I don`t even know, I`m not scared. I`m absolutely terrified.

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HAMMER: Imagine that. The wild reality show "Naked and Afraid" actually just inspired the most bizarre haunted house ever. It`s seriously creepy. You actually have to get naked to get in. And wait until you see tonight what we named as our moment of "SHOWBIZ Awesomeness." This is SBT. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

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HAMMER: Now on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Geico`s 15 minutes of fame. Time for now for the big reveal. Number one, on our countdown of the top three buzzmakers extending their 15 minutes of fame, it`s Jody Steel`s thigh art. This looks like an amazing tattoo, right? It`s actually a body art of a whole different kind.

CURRY: Yeah, A.J., the thigh is the limit for this Massachusetts college student who uses her legs to make theme amazing eye catching doodles. Here`s CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Doodling on yourself in class used to get you detention. Doodling on her thighs during class gets Jody Steel attention.

JODY STEEL: I`m pretty torn between the elephant and Walter White.

MOOS: These are her favorites. Walter White, lead character on "Breaking Bad" Jodi`s favorite show and - is that an elephant on your thigh or you are just happy to see me? Jodi started drawing on her thigh in class at Emerson College because the desks were too small to both take notes and draw.

STEEL: So, the next available canvass was my legs.

MOOS: That`s how actors like Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Joseph Gordon-Levitt got on her thighs.

STEEL: I may have a small crush on one or both of them.

MOOS: One of her film school professors noticed Jodi drawing.

STEEL: She told me to stick around after class and I was like what.

MOOS: Professor ended up asking Jodi to illustrate the book the professor was editing. Jodi says drawings like these take her an hour or less. Jodi, didn`t your mom ever tell you not to draw on yourself or you`ll get ink poisoning? Jodi says two years of using this ink pen have produced no symptoms. You know that dictionary defines ink poisoning as a disease made up by parents to get their kids to stop drawing on themselves. All Jodi needed was a photo of me and I started to materialize on her leg.

(on camera): What are you rubbing out on me?

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STEEL: It`s -- I`m spreading the ink. You know, the shading.

MOOS: And then you`re going to wash me off tonight?

STEEL: Yep.

MOOS (voice over): If she doesn`t, the ink gets all over her sheets and clothes. Short skirts are a must for this work. Of course, an artist has to prep her canvass.

STEEL: I`ve bought way too many razors.

MOOS: She has to shave every day now that photos of her work have gone viral.

(on camera): We`re doing my lips simultaneously.

(voice over): Some of her fans online don`t just analyze the art.

STEEL: Very creepy messages about like you have such wonderful legs.

MOOS: In person some mistake her drawings for tattoos.

(on camera): Do you have a real tattoo somewhere?

STEEL: Yeah. I do. I don`t know if you want to see it.

MOOS: Yeah, we want to see it. Are you kidding?

(voice over): Ying and Yang coyfish she designed. Finally, it was time to see myself right side up.

STEEL: Hopefully, I don`t flash anything.

MOOS: Forget high art. This is art that`s thigh high.

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CURRY: I love it. She`s that ridiculously talented. What do you think, A.J.?

HAMMER: I think I don`t believe that`s it`s an old wives tale that you can`t get ink poisoning. I`m sorry.

(LAUGHTER)

HAMMER: There is no way!

CURRY: You know what? You know? I did it in the second grade. I used to draw on myself nonstop. And I`ve never had it. My mom always told me I would. So.

HAMMER: Watch out. You`re young still.

(LAUGHTER)

HAMMER: Let`s get to this. Did Simon Cowell, the world`s most famous bachelor just actually drop a major clue about getting married?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will you marry Lauren?

SIMON COWELL: Let`s put it this way .

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HAMMER: Simon is getting ready to have a baby, of course. You got to know if wedding bells are in his future. We`ll get to that hint.

Plus, wait until you see what we have named as our moment of "SHOWBIZ Awesomeness." Here comes the SHOWBIZ buzz list, it`s what SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`S stuff is buzzing all about. Well, we`re all revved up for Ron Howard`s upcoming Formula One flick of "Rush". Start your engines this Friday. The Pulitzer Prize winning author of the namesake has a brand new book. It`s called "Lowland." It`s a majestic look at the price paid for idealism. Super rockers, "Kings of Leon" just dropped their new album. This is called "Mechanical Bull." I can tell you, it is one raucous riot. Heads up, Ellen DeGeneres has launched an app for "Heads Up." It`s the really hilarious new version of the game that she plays on her show with her celebrity guests, so now you can play it with your friends on your smartphone. And you can record the whole thing. And here`s a good reason to stay in every Sunday night for the rest of the fall. "Homeland" is back on show time with the brand new season.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was love. You and me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But it`s not good-bye.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: However it hurts the least.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will you marry Lauren?

COWELL: Let`s put it this way. I wouldn`t expect her to be a single mother.

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HAMMER: Simon Cowell talking marriage. He`s the guy we thought would be bachelor. He stunned fans with the news he has a baby on the way. Could a trip down the aisle be up next? This is a real Simon shocker and brings us to tonight`s SHOWBIZ hot flashes, that is where we take on the day`s hottest stories, Natasha.

CURRY: That`s right, AJ, and we begin with Simon`s baby confession. Simon just went on the record with Ryan Seacrest on Ryan`s radio show about the big changes ahead for him and his pregnant girlfriend. That marriage bomb shell was not Simon`s only stunner either. He let everybody in on his plans for the big delivery day.

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RYAN SEACREST: Do you know where you`re going to be? Will you stand above our below the equator for the delivery?

COWELL: Do you mean am I going to see it?

SEACREST: Yeah.

COWELL: Are you out of your mind? I know this sounds awful, but it`s a little bit like you don`t want to go into the restaurant while they`re making you dinner.

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CURRY: So Simon will be waiting in the halls of the hospital for his son to be born. Come on, Simon. Get in there. You jumped in on this from the beginning. You have got to finish the deal if you know what I mean. Let`s bring in comedian Bryan Safi, who is with us from Hollywood. Bryan is a writer for FunnyorDie, which I am a huge fan of. So Bryan, from tough grumpy singing judge to this softer side of Simon, talking about marriage. Do you think he should maybe hold auditions for who will sing at the wedding?

BRYAN SAFI, FUNNYORDIE.COM: I love that idea. I also love how traditional shotgun 1950s marriage this is. He gets someone pregnant and then they decide to get married. I love how Donna Reed this whole thing (inaudible) except he broke up a marriage and also subjects us to a hairy chest and extra small shirts all the time. Other than that, I love how this is going.

CURRY: And he`s been known as quite the ladies man in the past. Are you surprised to hear he might be settling down, AJ?

HAMMER: He`s having a baby with the woman who is soon to be the former wife of his former best friend. I think that Simon, who doesn`t really care what anybody thinks of him, could not possibly leave her and move onto anybody else with that situation at play. I am kind of not surprised. He has got to save face somewhere. Hopefully it`s for better reasons than that. But let`s move from that stunner to a Halloween shocker. This is great. Calling for nude thrill seekers. Get this. Owners of a haunted house in Sinking Spring, Pennsylvnaia, are trying to amp up the scare tactics with a naked scare challenge. Here is how this is going to work. You strip down to your birthday suit or your skivvies, you have the choice, and you go through the dark halls of this haunted house to face whatever is coming at you. Pretty terrifying, right? The people who started this say they got the idea from the Discovery TV reality show, "Naked and Afraid." Look at this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m a pretty shy person. The fact I`m going to be running around naked with somebody I don`t even know, I`m not scared. I`m absolutely terrified.

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HAMMER: There you have it, a TV show turned real life terror. Bryan, I`m thinking I`m perfect for this thing, because Halloween is my birthday, and I should wear my birthday suit on my birthday at the haunted house.

SAFI: AJ, I would say go for it. Except for one thing. Any time someone says public nudity, I can tell you who is not showing up, and that`s hot people. There are no hot, no good looking people ever on nude beaches anywhere. In fact, I think the people that will ultimately get scared are the people running this thing looking at all these people running around naked.

HAMMER: So Bryan, I don`t know how to take that. You`re saying I`m not going to show up and I`m going to leave it there.

Bryan, thank you so much. I am so psyched to show you this, an entire high school taking on Katy Perry`s super hit "Roar." This is one of the most epic lip dubs I have ever seen. They did it in one take.

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HAMMER: You shall roar after you see tonight`s SHOWBIZ awesomeness. This is SBT. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. On HLN.

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HAMMER: Time for SHOWBIZ awesomeness. This is where we reveal the most awesome story of the day. And tonight we`re going to let it roar in a single take.

CURRY: That`s right, AJ. Hundreds of students in Lakewood high school in Colorado just pulled off a feat that would make even Steven Spielberg jealous. They managed to lip dub Katy Perry`s mega hit "Roar" in a single take. They swept through the school halls, past cheerleasdes and student council, and just about every sports team you can think of, so you got to watch them here, roar.

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HAMMER: I couldn`t even get through family photos in one take.

CURRY: I know. That`s amazing that they were able to pull it off. Maybe she`ll perform with them next time. You never know.

HAMMER: That`s why we say it is awesome. Thank you for watching. I`m AJ Hammer in New York. You can catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT every Monday through Thursday at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific. HLN continues right now.

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