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10,000 Feared Dead in Typhoon; Progress But No Deal On Iran; ShelterBox Provides Housing Relief; Blame The Locker Room; Drones; Detroit's Fall From Grace

Aired November 10, 2013 - 15:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Hello again, everyone. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. These stories are topping our news this hour.

Unspeakable grief in the Philippines as the death toll from a monster typhoon skyrockets. Now survivors who desperately need help are asking their government what is taking so long.

And this simple tent could save lives in the storm zone. We'll show you how it works and how you might be able to help victims.

And NFL lineman Richie Incognito goes on the offensive. The suspended player responds publicly to allegations that he bullied teammate Jonathan Martin. Hear his side of the scandal coming up.

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WHITFIELD: We're learning more about the extent of the death and destruction caused by supertyphoon Haiyan and it's overwhelming. Ten thousand are feared; bodies are littering the streets. Entire communities are leveled and there is very little food or water and medical supplies are running out.

President Benigno Aquino toured some of the hardest-hit areas today, including the coastal city of Tacloban. He is facing growing outrage over the government's slow response to the disaster. Aquino was blaming a breakdown at the local level.

Our CNN crew captured the terrifying moments when the supertyphoon ripped through their hotel in Tacloban and people prayed as the wind howled outside.

CNN producer Tim Schwartz and CNN international anchor Andrew Stevens helped rescue people trapped in hotel rooms, as you say right here. They used mattresses to push them to safety in that high water.

Reaching some areas hard hit by the typhoon is extremely difficult; communication lines are down. Roads are blocked.

CNN's international correspondent Ivan Watson is in the Philippine capital of manila.

IVAN WATSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, one of the biggest challenges facing the Filipino government is just trying to get an assessment of how bad the damage has been in a country made up of an archipelago of sometimes quite remote islands.

We traveled by air today following the path of the supertyphoon, starting at the provincial capital, the devastated city of Tacloban.

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WATSON (voice-over): Approach to a shattered city, Tacloban, the first major population center to be struck by supertyphoon Haiyan. Amid the ruins of the airport here, desperate people waiting for food and clean water, some hoping for a flight out of the storm zone.

MURRAY ATTWAAD, TOURIST, NEW ZEALAND: (INAUDIBLE) get a C-130 to Manila or something, I don't know.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just have to see.

ATTWAAD: We will have to wait here; it is a waiting game, as with any situation like this. It is catastrophic.

WATSON (voice-over): In this catastrophe, some residents say they are terrified of lawlessness and looting.

RICHARD YOUNG, BUSINESS MAN: We are forming groups. As a matter of fact, (INAUDIBLE) since last night we have whistles. We were all awake the whole night. If somebody attempts in our street, we arm ourselves with flashlight and everything. We have our firearms; we will shoot you know, retain our property.

WATSON: You are afraid of being robbed?

YOUNG: Yes. We are afraid of being robbed.

WATSON (voice-over): From the misery and fear of Tacloban we fly west following the path of the storm, to Roxas, Kalibo and Busuanga. We accomplished officials from the Filipino Civil Aviation Authority. Like other government agencies, they are trying to assess damage to other islands in the Philippines.

WILLIAM HOTCHKISS, GENERAL DIRECTOR, CIVILIAN AVIATION AUTHORITY OF PHILIPPINES: I was 37 years in the Air Force and have flown all over the country and I have experienced storms before. But not to the extent that this one it put us into.

WATSON (voice-over): In the other towns we saw, the typhoon shattered windows and ripped off roofs. But fortunately these communities did not suffer the far more deadly surge of ocean water that swept through Tacloban.

WATSON: The typhoon swept through here days ago and now the long, hard, work of rebuilding has just begun. All of this damage was done in just a matter of hours and nobody here really knows how long it will take to truly recover.

MELY FABIAN, STORE OWNER: (INAUDIBLE) no water and most badly we have no flights, no boat coming here, so we have no food. WATSON (voice-over): Haiyan has shocked an island nation long accustomed to typhoons. Everyone here tells us they have never seen a storm this powerful before.

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WATSON: Fred, some Filipino government officials, they tell us they have never seen a storm surge before and they fear that this supertyphoon is part of changing weather patterns, climate change, bringing stronger, more powerful storms.

They are afraid that this type of enormous storm system may be part of the new normal for the Philippines and they have to start preparing for these greater environmental risks in the future -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much, Ivan Watson.

Ordinary citizens and grassroots organizations are working around the clock trying to help as many storm victims as possible. And there is plenty of need in Cebu province where thousands of people are without shelter, food and water.

CNN's Anna Coren is there.

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ANNA COREN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: As the scale of the disaster grows by the day, the people of the Philippines are continuing, volunteering their time to make sure that those have lost absolutely everything as a result of supertyphoon

Haiyan have the basic necessities. I'm at the provincial welfare office here in Cebu, where hundreds of volunteers have gathered to put together food and aid parcels.

I want to introduce you to Richard, who has been here all day.

Richard, why do so many people come?

RICHARD: Actually they are here to express their concern to the ones who are affected by the typhoon and they want to offer their help as well. They are individuals; they help work and are private individuals as well. Actually, they are individuals. They have work. They are private individuals as well, those are students even. They come here with emergency help, offer their -- offer themselves.

COREN: Are you overwhelmed by the generosity?

RICHARD: Actually overwhelmed is actually an understatement. I'm very happy. I' deeply touched. Even there are foreigners here that are Germans who came to Palawan as a visitor, vacation and when they heard about the typhoon they came here to help pack the relief goods for all those who are stricken.

COREN: Well, Richard, it's fantastic work. And we congratulate you and (INAUDIBLE) the volunteers involved. These volunteers are going to be back here tomorrow and in the coming weeks as they make sure that those who so desperately need this food and water get it -- Anna Coren, CNN, Cebu, The Philippines.

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WHITFIELD: Thank you so much, Anna.

To find out how you can help the typhoon victims go to CNN.com/impact.

NFL player Richie Incognito says the teammate he is accused to bullying was his best friend. Incognito opened up to FOX Sports' Jay Glazer about his relationship with Jonathan Martin, who left the Miami Dolphins over accusations that he was bullied.

Incognito insisted he never meant to hurt Martin and explained what he would say to Martin if he were to see him.

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RICHIE INCOGNITO, NFL PLAYER: Honestly, I think I would give him a big hug right now, because we've been through so much and I'd just be like, dude, what is going on? Why didn't you come to me?

If he were to say, listen, you took it way too far, you hurt me, I would just apologize and explain to him exactly what I explained to you. I would apologize to his family that they took it as malicious. But I never meant it that way.

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WHITFIELD: We'll explore Martin's interview in depth later on and look at what he says the real problem is.

Meantime police are investigating a shootout at a house party last night in Houston. Two people were killed and 22 more injured when the gunfire broke out. About 100 people were at that party. Witnesses say people were running for their lives after they heard the shots. The Harris County sheriff is currently searching for two suspects.

Diplomats are heading home from Geneva after failing to reach a deal over Iran's nuclear program. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Iran and the West are inching closer to a deal but any agreement will have to wait until the next meeting, which is about 10 days from now.

Senator Lindsey Graham says Congress won't wait that long and could begin working on new sanctions this week.

Seeing the damage left behind after a huge typhoon hit the Philippines is heartbreaking.

A storm chaser who was there for the storm describes the devastation that he saw and the response.

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(COMMERCIAL BREAK) WHITFIELD: As many as 10,000 people are feared dead in the Philippines after a typhoon crushed the island. For people who saw it first-hand, it was horrifying. Storm chaser James Reynolds got stunning video of the storm as it hit the Philippines. He's joining me right now from Hong Kong.

James, you just left the Philippines today. Before you left, what kind of response did you see taking place in terms of aid to help the people in need?

JAMES REYNOLDS, STORM CHASER: Fredricka, well, I managed to escape from Tacloban City via an Air Force C-130 aircraft. And these aircraft were bringing in aid supplies, drinking water, what looked like sacks of rice and fuel. But other than that, there weren't many of these flights coming in. And it looked like it was really not a huge concerted effort that you would hope was taking place in the immediate aftermath of such an enormous disaster.

WHITFIELD: Tacloban, hard-hit, what did you see in terms of the need, what kind of condition were some of the survivors that you saw?

REYNOLDS: Well, the local population were in a total sense of shock after this brutal typhoon more or less passed right over their city. The ferocious winds, the horrendous storm surge which flooded basically the entire of downtown causing devastating damage.

And as soon as the winds died down, people were out, trying to salvage their belongings, see what damage had been done to their homes and they were really just a sense of total shell shock amongst the local population -- Fredricka.

Here you are, a storm chaser. This is what you do for a living. You look at cities and people and how they endure a natural disaster. But how does this compare to what you have seen before?

REYNOLDS: Well, what makes this different, what I've witnessed before is I was there first-hand as the disaster was unfolding as opposed to turning up for the aftermath. So it felt very real.

I was witnessing before my eyes the city basically being torn apart and drowning and to be able to get out in the immediate aftermath and document what was unfolding was really a unique situation for me, just to be there in such an immediate fashion after a catastrophe had taken place -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: And clearly there was so much desperate need unfolding right before your eyes, right before the eyes of the CNN crew as well, all of you taking part in a rescue. Tell me about -- in particular there was a man who was injured that was assisted on a mattress.

In what way were you able to help him and others?

REYNOLDS: Yes, absolutely. As the ferocious winds and rain were battering us, the storm surge was rising very rapidly. And this caught some people who were staying on the lower floor of the hotel totally off guard. And they were trapped in their hotel room, panicking and smashing the windows to try and escape.

And this is where I was with my colleagues, Josh Morgan (ph) and Mark Thomas. It was a case of putting down the cameras and basically trying to help these people get out of that hotel room before the water rose anymore and they could potentially drown.

We found some mattresses with the CNN crew as well helping out. And it was really a team effort to try and ferry these people into the hotel and up to the higher floors, out of harm's way -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: James Reynolds, thank you so much from Hong Kong.

And storm chaser James Reynolds said the reason he left the Philippine so quickly is because one of the members of his crew suffered a life- threatening injury while assisting in those rescues. His colleague is now getting treatment.

The typhoon now moves to Vietnam where it is expected to make landfall tomorrow. It is losing steam but it still has the potential to do a lot of damage.

Alexandra Steele has more from the weather center.

ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Hi, Fred, well certainly this typhoon not nearly the monster that it was when it just raked over the Philippines. With sustained winds of 190 miles per hour, so a shadow of that now, maximum sustained winds at 85 mph, gusts to 105. Moving north-northwest, a little more northerly component, it will make landfall this evening, which is Monday morning local time.

And when it does so, it actually may even just be a tropical storm at that point with winds potentially only 40 miles per hour.

And then it heads towards Tuesday. It just moves north. So the winds not nearly the factor, but we will still certainly some damaging wind gusts and rain. By Tuesday, look at the rain, we could see from Hanoi east toward China potentially 8 to 10 inches of rain. So damaging winds, coastal storm surge flooding, which really may be the calling card for Vietnam, with the problems of this, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right, thank you so much. Alexandra will of course be watching closely.

No deal yet on Iran's nuclear program but some lawmakers in Washington are planning to push for new sanctions against Tehran this week. We'll talk more about that and all things political with chief political correspondent Candy Crowley.

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WHITFIELD: A lot going on in the world of politics this week. Those Iran nuclear talks in Geneva will be front and center on Capitol Hill.

"STATE OF THE UNION" and chief political correspondent Candy Crowley joins me now to talk more about that.

Candy, let's begin with Iran. Secretary Kerry has asked for Congress to hold off on sanctions against Iran. You talked to Republican Senator Lindsey Graham this morning.

Is there optimism in Congress that Iran is close to striking a deal to freeze its nuclear program?

CANDY CROWLEY, CNN HOST, "STATE OF THE UNION": Well, from what I gather from Senator Graham is that there is bipartisan support not to have this temporary freeze, when he described what he wanted, it pretty much was anything and get rid of anything that might lead to a nuclear weapons program.

I think this week you will see some movement made to in fact impose more might see more sanctions on Iran because Graham insists that is the only reason they are at the table now.

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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: We believe that sanctions and the threat of military force is the only thing that's going to bring the Iranians to the table.

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CROWLEY: So basically, Fredricka, Graham is saying what they want is a major plan to end it, not freeze the program in place. In that respect, it is aligned with some of the governments in the Middle East and in the front lines of that, of course, is Israel.

WHITFIELD: Also this week, the president likely will not be able to get away from dialogue and more questions, of course, about his health care plan.

Questions like deadlines, will they be honored from getting the website up and running within three weeks? Two penalties imposed after signup deadlines? And will all of this be potentially punishing or was it already on this past Election Day?

CROWLEY: Well, certainly there are a lot of folks who look at the -- believe it or not, the loss of the Republican in Virginia as a sign that Obamacare is not popular, first of all because we know that the exit polls show that the majority of Virginia voters don't like Obamacare. And we know that the majority of those who don't like it went for the Republican.

He also -- Ken Cuccinelli lost the race for governor to a Democrat, but by a much smaller margin than folks expected him to. So when you looked at the last couple of weeks, Cuccinelli's campaign, it was all about Obamacare.

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CROWLEY (voice-over): So here he is. He started talking about it and that's when his numbers began to get better and he came so close to winning.

Nonetheless, and I have to say, I talked to both party chairs today. One of them, Reince Priebus from the Republican National Committee, who said we are going to tattoo Obamacare on the foreheads of the Democrats.

But Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the Democratic Party chairman, and she said that she thinks Democrats will be only too happy to run on Obamacare.

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REP. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ (D-FL): Obamacare did not have anything to do with Tuesday's outcome. I think actually, Candy, that Democratic candidates will be able to run on Obamacare as an advantage leading into the 2014 election.

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CROWLEY: Take your choice. It's either going to be a great thing to run on or a really bad thing to defend.

WHITFIELD: All right. It's going to be interesting next three years and an interesting week, too, especially since it will be interesting to see whether those nominations of Janet Yellen will indeed be -- or the nomination be held up in any way since Lindsey Graham has said in the past that he wants to hold up those nominations, confirmations, until more information on Benghazi.

Candy Crowley, thank you so much.

CROWLEY: Thanks, Fred.

WHITFIELD: And for people still reeling in the aftermath of that devastating typhoon, help comes in the form of a simple box. We will show you what is in the box and what you can do to help.

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WHITFIELD: All right here is a look at what is trending.

Alexis Summers led the fight to get justice for her mom and she got it. Summers cried tears of joy when her father, Dr. Martin MacNeill, was found guilty of murdering her mother. Summers told our Jean Casarez after the verdict that she thought she really knew her father.

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ALEXIS SUMMERS, DAUGHTER OF MARTIN MACNEILL: I thought I knew him. Now we've come to really understand who he really is. And he is a calculated, cold murderer.

JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: What will you tell your children about their grandfather?

SUMMERS: I don't know. I don't want -- I don't know if I want to tell them about him. He doesn't deserve to be a person in their lives.

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WHITFIELD: And NFL player Richie Incognito opens up to FOX Sports about allegations that he bullied teammate Jonathan Martin out of the league. Incognito insisted he and Martin were friends and he never meant to hurt him. Incognito also said that he wished he had known how Martin felt. I'll have more on this controversy with LZ Granderson and former NFL player, Wade Davis, in just a few minutes.

And a tragedy of epic proportions is unfolding right now in the Philippines. Ten thousand people are feared dead from supertyphoon Haiyan. The storm ripped through the country two days ago, turning homes into rubble and cutting off entire communities.

The U.S. international -- U.S. agency, rather, for international development has one disaster response team on the ground right now in the Philippines. And it expects to send more.

Charities are also sending teams. One charity is called ShelterBox and it helps people with the most basic of needs. Here's Nick Valencia with their mission.

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NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Many of you looking at the devastated images coming out of the Philippines after that typhoon hit the country are asking how can you help? How can you make a difference?

We thought we would introduce you to a disaster relief organization that is on the ground right now. And they are making a difference. This is Wayne Robinson, one of the team members from ShelterBox.

Tell me a little bit about what ShelterBox is.

WAYNE ROBINSON, SHELTERBOX: Sure, Nick.

ShelterBox is a disaster relief organization that responds to disasters such as tsunamis, earthquake, hurricanes, typhoons, wherever they happen around the world.

VALENCIA: You're all over the world in the hardest hit areas in some of the most remote places. And you bring -- what do you bring along with you?

What is sort of the major components of what's in one of these ShelterBoxes?

ROBINSON: The major component of our kit is this large, disaster relief tent. It's 14 feet in diameter.

VALENCIA: Let's take a look. Let's go inside.

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VALENCIA: (INAUDIBLE) here.

So this comes everywhere you guys go. This is a standard sized tent or is it specific to each disaster?

ROBINSON: No, this is our standard sized tent. This is a great product to have out there in the marketplace when folks have lost everything.

VALENCIA: And you can fit about -- looks like about 10 people in here at least.

ROBINSON: You can easily fit 10 people in these tents. It is going to give them shelter, warmth and dignity until they can get back on their feet.

VALENCIA: Absolutely. And how does it work? You set this up for them? Or do you provide them the tools to set this up? How does it work?

ROBINSON: We show them how to set the tent up. We train the trainers. When we get in country, we basically beg, borrow or steal trucks, buses and boats and helicopters and 100 volunteers to make things happen for as many people as we can.

VALENCIA: But this is not the only component; you've got something else, right? Let's see what else you brought.

And this is all included in one box here. And thousands go over to each disaster zone at a time?

ROBINSON: We'll send anywhere from 200 of these kits to 28,000 or more, which we did in the Haiti earthquake back in 2010.

VALENCIA: So you've got the tent, but you also have -- tell me what we're looking at here.

ROBINSON: So many other things that come with our kit, if you can imagine you'd lost everything in a disaster, you have nothing left, one of the main things is blankets and ground sheets, you're going to need those for warmth. In situations where malaria is present, we have mosquito nets that come with it. Obviously we've got a great -- pots and pans and plates, knives and forks and spoons that folks can use to feed themselves.

VALENCIA: You are helping people start from scratch including rebuilding supplies.

ROBINSON: Absolutely. They are going to need something to start rebuilding. They kind of scrounge around in the rubble and start rebuilding their house. That is something they are going to need tools to do that with.

VALENCIA: Water purification as well.

Is that what we're looking at here?

ROBINSON: Water purification is a big component. This is a family sized water purification kit and a water container for carrying that.

VALENCIA: So what is the most -- very quickly, what is the most difficult part about getting into these hard-hit areas? Is it the politics? Is it the people, the reception? What is the most difficult part?

ROBINSON: We have really got all that worked out pretty well. We have got a training academy over in the U.K. and we work with folks on the ground. We don't go in and tell them how to do it. Basically we work with volunteers to tell us where the affected folks are, how to get things into the country without taxation and duty and we make it happen for as many people as we can.

VALENCIA: And of course the most important question for those watching at home is how can they help?

How can they get involved with ShelterBox?

ROBINSON: There's -- we have a great website; it is shelterboxusa.org. You can go on and there with an opportunity to donate or you can text right now to shelter to the number 20222 and that will give a $10 donation to ShelterBox. And that will be used immediately in disaster areas.

VALENCIA: And we should mention that this organization was founded by a Hero, CNN Hero in 2008. Right? Or this has been around since 2000, but he was a CNN Hero of a legitimate organization, been around a long time.

Wayne Robinson, thank you very much for your time at CNN.

ROBINSON: Thank you, Nick.

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WHITFIELD: Wow. That is life-altering fantastic. Many aid agencies are mobilizing to help the victims of the typhoon. To find out how you can help and also get a link to ShelterBox's website, go to CNN.com/impact.

More talk of Richie Incognito. Now he is telling his side of the story in the NFL bullying scandal, insisting that the man he is accused of bullying is actually his best friend on the team.

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WHITFIELD: This week the NFL's Richie Incognito has been nothing but. He's actually become the public face of bullying, alleged bullying, for his alleged abuse of teammate Jonathan Martin.

In an interview today Incognito pushed back, saying he is not a racist nor a bully. But he is being blamed for a problem that is bigger than one player, namely the culture of the locker room. He also insisted that he has talked to Martin and Martin doesn't blame him for what happened.

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INCOGNITO: He texted me and said I don't blame you guys. I blame some stuff in the locker room. I blame the culture. I blame what was going on around me.

And when all this stuff got going and swirling and bullying got attached to it and my name got attached to it, I just texted him as a friend and was like, what's up with this, man?

And he said it is not coming from me.

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WHITFIELD: That conversation taking place via text, says incog.

Could Incognito be right? Is the problem bigger than one player?

I'm joined now by LZ Granderson, a CNN commentator and a senior writer for ESPN.

Good to see you. He comes to us via Skype from Platesville (ph), right, Wisconsin.

And Wade Davis, a writer, public speaker and former pro football players, joining me from New York, good to see you as well.

So, Wade, let me begin with you. You know the locker rooms and the NFL, is Richie Incognito painting the right picture? Is this beyond the players but really a league-wide issue? Kind of what everybody does in the locker room?

WADE DAVIS, WRITER AND FORMER NFL PLAYER: Well, I had the privilege of being on five different teams and I have never experienced anything like that. I do believe that the NFL locker room is a place where there is a lot of things happen from an outsider's perspective wouldn't be viewed as something that is OK. But on the five teams that I've been on, like there was never anything that happened to this extent.

WHITFIELD: So not even as a rookie, you weren't talked to a little bit more harshly than the more senior players? There weren't demands being placed on you as a rookie, to carry bags or to toughen up or you know.

DAVIS: I carried shoulder pads. I had to sing for the rookie talent show. But I never felt forced. Jeff Fisher did an amazing job of (INAUDIBLE) the culture around there and guys like Chance Bond and Samari Rolle and Steve McNair really made sure that everyone, whether you were a first year player or not, felt happy.

WHITFIELD: So Incognito also got a lot of criticism for using the N word in some of those alleged texts. I want to play part of the FOX interview where he actually talks about that. Let's listen.

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Incognito: It is a word that I have heard John use a lot. I'm not saying it's right for when I did it in the voicemail. But there are colorful words thrown around the locker room that we don't use in everyday life.

The fact of the matter remains, though, that that voicemail was left on a private voicemail for my friend and it was a joke.

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WHITFIELD: So LZ, hearing that, does that change the argument of what is appropriate and what is going too far and what is really going on here?

LZ GRANDERSON, CNN COMMENTATOR: You know, I'm trying not to laugh because that rationale he shared with us is just so freaking bogus I can't even believe he was coached to say that.

The matter of the fact is we saw him use that word outside of a locker room in a public space, in which some of the other customers in this bar were actually visibly frightened that he was, starting this thumping around and yelling the N word at Mike Ponzi (ph).

For him to suggest this was something that was isolated into the locker room or something that he heard a black person say so he feels it is OK to say it, as if he doesn't recognize the context in which it was being said is just -- is absolutely ridiculous.

But again, he was well coached to try to sound as sensible as possible. But we have seen too much already to take what he just said at face value.

WHITFIELD: So gentlemen, what now? Incognito is suspended and then there are these texts now that he talks about in that FOX Sports interview.

If these texts between he and Martin demonstrate that Martin doesn't blame Incognito, but instead he really the culture of the sport, might we see potentially a legal fight from either one of these athletes -- we are talking about a suspension; we're talking for one athlete, we're talking about the other one walking off the team, a lot of money at stake, for the loss of either of these team members?

Wade?

DAVIS: I don't think you will see a lawsuit. I think that Jonathan wants to play football again. I think --

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WHITFIELD: Will he play again? Would another team pick him up whether any of these things, you know, even of these details are true or not?

DAVIS: There was a poll. And I think that there were 72 players there that were polled and 47 of those players said that they would have no problem playing with Jonathan Martin. And there's so many teams out there that have a culture of acceptance and aren't similar to what happened in Miami, I think he will play again.

WHITFIELD: OK.

And LZ, you get the last word on that one. I only ask because there are a lot of former players and people within the NFL world, who are saying you know what, this is just simply the way that it is and some believe he would be untouchable -- Martin, not Incognito.

What do you think, LZ?

GRANDERSON: Well, you have to remember, a few months ago we saw video of Bradley Cooper screaming the N word at a country concert and so many people said he'll never play in a (INAUDIBLE) again. And I think he is on the field right now.

So I think this notion of you know someone has done something and you can never come back from it, I think it is always overblown. There are things that happened in that FOX interview. I would have been happy to have seen a little bit more in-depth information gone into. That would just answer. We don't know who told Richie Incognito to make Martin tougher. He reports that it came from up high, like the coach knew that (INAUDIBLE), (INAUDIBLE) heard that question.

We don't know what Incognito said about the other players who have said that he has bullied them. This isn't just Martin; he has actually been accused by other players, (INAUDIBLE) that question.

WHITFIELD: Right, still so many unanswered questions.

GRANDERSON: (INAUDIBLE) unanswered questions. So I don't know what is going to come of this but I do know that the notion that a player can't come back from something has been proven time and time again. At least the NFL just not to hold water.

WHITFIELD: All right. LZ, Wade, thank you so much, gentlemen. Good to see you. Appreciate it.

DAVIS: Thank you for having me.

WHITFIELD: So let's talk about unmanned drones flying in U.S. airspace. That's actually causing fear of midair collisions with passenger planes. Find out what the FAA is doing about that.

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WHITFIELD: Three days of talks over Iran's nuclear program end with no deal but there remains hope an agreement is possible. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said significant progress was made in Geneva and they will meet again 10 days from now. Iran has been under crippling sanctions since 2006 and Senator Lindsey Graham says more sanctions may be needed and that he'll push for that this week. Unmanned drones have been widely used to target terrorists, particularly in Pakistan and Yemen. But what you may not realize is that the government also flies drones right here in the U.S. and that's raising safety concerns in crowded skies. CNN's Rene Marsh has more on what the FAA is doing about it.

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RENE MARSH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): April 2006, an unmanned aircraft patrolling the Mexican border loses contact with its ground- based pilot. It goes on an uncommanded joyride, flying 30 miles until it crashes close to an Arizona home.

It's that kind of scenario or even worse, a midair collision, that the Federal Aviation Administration is trying to avoid as it looks to open airspace to thousands of drones.

MICHAEL HUERTA, FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION: We must ensure that safety and efficiency of the entire airspace including all aircraft, all people and property --

MARSH (voice-over): In the next five years, drone use by businesses and governments is expected to soar. The FAA estimates as many as 7,500 drones could be flying in the U.S. airspace at any given time.

Thursday the agency released a blueprint of steps necessary to make it happen, requiring drones to have sensors enabling it to avoid crashing into another aircraft, standardized training for operators and identifying safe distances drones should keep from other planes.

MARSH: The FAA is working on rules for small drones like this one to even larger ones, with a wingspan of a 737 capable of flying up to 60,000 feet. But some commercial pilots fear sharing the skies could mean disaster.

JOHN BARTON, AIRLINE CAPTAIN: I think that most pilots, commercial aviators across the country, are deeply troubled with the accident rate of drones at this time. I think the number in the last report that I saw was 9.31 accidents per 100,000 hours flying. That's three times the amount of any aircraft category.

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MARSH: Well, right now, the FAA approves unmanned aircraft on a case- by-case basis, usually for reasons like law enforcement, border security or scientific research. Next, the agency will pick six sites throughout the country to test the ability of manned and unmanned systems to safely fly in the sky -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Thanks so much, Rene Marsh.

Detroit may be in bankruptcy, but don't count the city out just yet. Some folks are coming up with new ideas that could help turn things around.

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WHITFIELD (voice-over): OK, so that moment right there, a Wisconsin man could now look at a six-year prison sentence because he zapped his wife with a stun gun. It was all part of a wager that he had with his wife.

So could he really go to prison? Our legal experts will be weighing in on this story and more in the next hour.

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WHITFIELD: Economically depressed and plagued with crime, Detroit filed for bankruptcy. But the historic Motor City is not about to give up. George Howell has more on how politicians and start-ups are helping to carry Detroit into the future.

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GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fred, it is a crucial time for one of America's most storied but troubled cities. From crime to abandoned neighborhoods and even the largest municipal bankruptcy in the nation's history. But when you take a closer look at what's actually happening in Detroit, you do find some signs of hope.

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HOWELL: When you think Detroit, what do people think about first?

ANDRE SPIVEY, DETROIT CITY COUNCIL: Of course they think Motown. You think automobile industry. You think athlete teams. But we need to know that we have a city that's now changing.

HOWELL (voice-over): Most believe the change that's coming about in Detroit is for the better. It's the getting there that they say is tough. You see it in the headlines. On the streets of Detroit, two separate triple murders just this week alone. Folks here are fed up with the crime.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You just have to be strong. You just have to keep thinking about and praying to God and having faith and just hoping. Hoping, even though hope is really not there. But we still have to keep hoping.

HOWELL (voice-over): Then there's the issue of bankruptcy. The city is applying for a process that could dramatically cut the value of hard-earned pensions for thousands of retirees. Even precious pieces of Detroit's Institute of Art could be put up for sale to the highest bidder to help make up for more than $18 billion in debt.

HOWELL: As an elected official, you represent this city, you grew up here. How do you cope with, how do you deal with all of the negative headlines that come out of (INAUDIBLE)?

SPIVEY: It's hard sometimes. This probably had to happen. This was 43 years in the making. We had to come to this point here.

What will we look like this time next year or two or three years from now? And there's great hope and optimism. We people all over this world that are buying parcels in this city preparing for the rebirth and renaissance of our city.

HOWELL (voice-over): Renaissance comes in the most unlikely places, where most see a skyline of abandoned buildings.

Businesses like Detroit Labs are seizing opportunity. This company makes all sorts of mobile apps and had some fun with it, too.

PAUL GLOMSKI, COFOUNDER AND CEO, DETROIT LABS: We're here in the Madison block (ph). There are dozens and dozens of start-ups like Detroit Labs. There are lots of business reasons to be here. But it's also great that the entrepreneurial activity is taking place right downtown.

HOWELL: Detroit Labs is one of many new start-ups backed by a private equity group called Detroit Venture Partners, a firm run by native Detroiter, Dan Gilbert, the founder and CEO of Quicken Loans. And Gilbert is doubling down on Detroit. In addition to the ventures that he's supporting, he's moved all of his Quicken Loan employees back into downtown Detroit, setting the stage for others to follow.

DAN GILBERT, FOUNDER AND CEO, QUICKEN LOANS: As they're looking down here, every time they see an empty building like that, they should look at it as an opportunity to come in and make the space they want, make the company they want.

HOWELL (voice-over): It's the hope this city is counting on, that seeds of optimism are just starting to take root. And people here are determined to turn the tide.

And steer the Motor City into better days ahead.

HOWELL: As Detroit heads into bankruptcy, there is new optimism as new faces take the helm, a new mayor takes office in January, along with five new members of the city's nine council members. Their one and only job is to turn things around -- Fred?

WHITFIELD: Thanks so much. George Howell there in Detroit.

Also, in Detroit tonight, the season finale of "ANTHONY BOURDAIN: PARTS UNKNOWN." He takes us to the Motor City through his lens tonight, 9 o'clock Eastern time.

And then after Anthony's visit to Detroit, he'll host a live, one-hour post-season show called "Last Bite" from Las Vegas. That's at 10:00 pm Eastern. That's all tonight, right here on CNN.

We have much more in the NEWSROOM. And it all begins right now.