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Toronto Mayor Controversy; Typhoon Survivors; North Carolina Child Abuse Case; Police Shoot at Minivan; Bleacher Report; Interview with the Harlem Globetrotters; Obamacare: Campaign Issue in 2016

Aired November 17, 2013 - 06:00   ET

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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: In the news business, he is the gift that just keeps on giving. Late night comics love him for that, but plenty of people in Toronto, well, they want him gone. As the city gears up to gut even more power from Mayor Rob Ford, he prepares for his own, yes, television show.

ZORAIDA SAMBOLIN, CNN ANCHOR: The typhoon that struck the Philippines is long gone, but the desperation, it is only getting worse. Millions are still homeless, hungry, and they are losing hope by the hour.

SAVIDGE: And it began as a simple traffic stop, but the mom in this minivan with her five children in tow gave police in New Mexico a ride they will not soon forget.

SAMBOLIN: Good morning, everyone. Nice to have you with us. I'm Zoraida Sambolin.

SAVIDGE: And I'm Martin Savage. Nice to be with you. It is 6:00 in the morning and this is NEW DAY SUNDAY.

SAMBOLIN: So, calls for Toronto's embattled mayor to resign are getting louder by the second. Tomorrow, the city council will vote to place the mayor's office and budget in the hands of the deputy mayor.

SAVIDGE: The council has already stripped Ford of some of his powers, including his ability to govern during an emergency. Despite his watered down position, a defiant Ford says that he is not going anywhere.

SAMBOLIN: And tomorrow he's also set to launch his own television show with one of his biggest supporters, with his brother. For weeks, Ford's admission to smoking crack cocaine and his refusal to step down has been the butt of jokes for comedians.

SAVIDGE: And last night, the cast of "Saturday Night Live" got their shot at it. They poked fun at Ford's erratic behavior, including lewd comments he made on live TV.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE, ACTOR, "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE": I am sorry for how I have been acting. It is not indicative of my position of mayor in this great town of Toronto.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE, ACTOR, "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE": Hey, man, I got what you asked for.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, not here, OK? Let's do it under the desk.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (singing): I'm the best mayor of all of the mayors! I'm the best mayor in the world! Your mayor and suck (EXPLETIVE DELETED)!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAMBOLIN: Oh, my goodness. All right.

SAVIDGE: I took a look at that clip before just so I was prepared for that.

SAMBOLIN: All right, for the people of Toronto, there was nothing funny about the mayor's real-life drama.

SAVIDGE: No. Angry protesters gathered outside of Toronto city hall yesterday. They said that they want more than just an apology from the mayor, they want him out of office.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If we can't get him out of office for the terrible behavior, the awful things he's said, then it means we have absolutely to standards.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: An apology is no sufficient and it's does not suffice for what has taken place.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAMBOLIN: Oh, they are angry. But not everyone wants the mayor to resign. CNN's senior international correspondent Nic Robinson has more.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Zoraida and Martin, there's one person who's been standing beside the mayor here, inside the city council chambers, voting with him not to have his powers stripped away. That's his bower, Doug Ford, a council member here. I asked him about the humiliation that his brother is going through with all these powers being stripped away. This is what he told me.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DOUG FORD, MAYOR'S BROTHER: Just imagine if you took the CEO out and said, every one of you folks have the same power as the CEO. It wouldn't work

ROBERTSON: Isn't it going to be humiliating for your brother, though, to be put in that position?

FORD: Well, you know something, this whole issue is humiliating. ROBERTSON: This is what he's going to be remembered for.

FORD: Oh, he's going to be remembered by doing a great job. He's going to be remembered if he fails to move in the right direction. And he's going to be remembered as a comeback kid.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ROBERTSON: Very important there that he's actually not sure himself how his brother, the mayor, is going to handle the pressure and the stress of the current situation. But the way the mayor is handling it so far, he says he's going to take the city council to court, challenge them by law, even though he's going to have to put his hand in his pocket to do that.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ROBERTSON: Your brother, the mayor, said today he will fight some of these issues in court. It won't be the public money, it will be his money. How much is this going to cost you? How long can you go on fighting it?

FORD: Well, we've spent close to probably $1 million fighting on all the other court cases, three of them. Now you've got to keep in mind, this battle didn't happen right now.

ROBERTSON: How many more -- money is it going to cost?

FORD: This started - this started three years ago when Rob Ford said he was --

ROBERTSON: But this - this is going to cost big. This is - this is taking on the city.

FORD: And every - well, every single -- that's fine. We've taken on bigger guys too. So --

ROBERTSON: How deep are your pockets?

FORD: Oh, I have, you know, short pockets.

ROBERTSON: Short pockets?

FORD: I have very short pockets. So --

ROBERTSON: Then this would then - you'll have to stop the fight pretty quickly?

FORD: We're never going to stop fighting.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ROBERTSON: And that fight only expected to get longer. On Monday, the council expected to vote, to take more powers from the mayor, give them to the deputy mayor, take his operational budget, take some of his staff as well. But the mayor will get his own voice later the same day, a new talk show with his brother, unscripted, they say, but this will be their chance to appeal to their supporters, to put their view across, an hour-long, but who knows what the mayor will say. We've seen some of his comments in the past few days. It can go any way.

Zoraida. Martin.

SAVIDGE: Nic Robertson, thank you very much.

As we enter now week two of that recovery in the Philippines after that deadly super typhoon, people in that largely catholic nation are going to church and many are finding their places of worship badly damaged, the roof ripped off of some of those churches.

SAMBOLIN: The number of dead jumped again overnight. The government confirming now 3,681 deaths there, with more than 12,500 people hurt. And more than 1,100 are reported missing.

SAVIDGE: Reporter Karl Penhaul is in Tacloban.

And, Karl, I know that you've been attending some of those masses this morning and I'm sure it's been very emotional.

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Martin and Zoraida.

We were down at the Santo Nina Church (ph), one of the largest here. The roof was completely peeled off by that super typhoon. And so as the mass was going on, rain, because it's rainy season here, was just pouring down into the church, down the aisles, and on to the pews. And there at one end of the altar well stood the priest, him talking to the faithful about what it would look like when the end of the world came, trying to assure them that this wasn't the end of the world, trying to calm their fears, trying to give them solace.

But as you looked around that church, it was difficult for many families to find solace. We talked to two sisters, both of them mothers, 10 days after that super typhoon, they have not found five of their children. The youngest is two years old.

One of the women, Gaylum Bell Begara (ph), said that she survived by clinging on to an electricity pole. Her sister clung on to a TV and then a banana tree. And as the floodwaters subsided, she said that being in that tidal surges was like being whipped around in a washing machine. She said they were flipped this way and flipped that way. And when the floodwaters subsided, no sign of their five children. They're hoping against hope that they can find their children, but, of course, at this stage, those hopes must be fading.

And Gaylum Bell said to me, she says, I can't deal with it. I can't deal with the fact that I couldn't protect my sons when they most needed me. And she said that she would gladly head up to the tallest building in Tacloban and jump off it. She said that really she was very close to suicide herself. And it's very clear here that these families are going to need some kind of psychology help. Really difficult to imagine how they're going to overcome those kind of scenarios. This woman, herself, started off saying, if my sons could hear me now, I would just like to apologize for not being able to protect them. She says, if only I'd find their bodies and assure myself that they're not lying under debris or being eaten by dogs right now.

Martin. Zoraida.

SAMBOLIN: Oh, my goodness.

SAVIDGE: Karl Penhaul, that is just a horrific thing for any parent to have to endure. And, you know, on top of the devastation that people see, it's the devastation within that they have to come to grips with. Thank you for that report.

ZORAIDA: How do you heal from that, Martin, right?

SAVIDGE: Yes.

ZORAIDA: All right, eight minutes past the hour. At least 27 babies were born in Tacloban after the typhoon and many of them were premature.

SAVIDGE: Now we know that at least seven of them have died.

ZORAIDA: Yes. That includes a baby that we told you about yesterday. Her mother was manually pumping air into her lungs because there was no power to hook up her ventilator at this makeshift neonatal unit. Doctors say they have no idea when a generator will be brought in to provide the power that they need. I know these are really difficult stories to hear, but this is the situation on the ground. This is what's happening.

SAVIDGE: Right. I mean I think that gives you, more than anything, the image of what these people have to deal with in the aftermath.

And for ways that you can help survivors of Typhoon Haiyan, you can go to cnn.com/impact.

Back here at home, in North Carolina, just a few miles south of Charlotte, authorities say that they have stumbled on an absolute sickening case of child abuse.

SAMBOLIN: A child handcuffed to a front porch, a dead chicken tied around his neck. CNN's Rosa Flores is on this story.

Good morning, Rosa.

ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Martin, Zoraida, there are many shocking factors to this story. And perhaps one of the most shocking is the profession of the mother in question. She actually works for the Department of Social Services.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

FLORES (voice-over): The outside of this North Carolina house provides clues of the alleged horrors happening here. CHIEF DEP. BEN BAILEY, UNION COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA SHERIFF'S DEPT.: The child had a dead chicken hung around his neck.

FLORES: Sheriff's deputies say that 11-year-old boy was shivering, while allegedly handcuffed by the ankle to the porch. When the deputy asked the owner what was going on, another child opened the front door, releasing several large dogs that chased the deputy to his cruiser.

TONY BIGHAM, NEIGHBOR: Man, he come out of here like greased lightning when he came back out here.

FLORES: Authorities won't get into the details, but the owners of the house, Dorian Lee Harper and Wanda Sue Larson, now face intentional child abuse, inflicting serious injury, false imprisonment, and cruelty to animals charges. Authorities removed five children from the home, ages eight to 14, four adopted kids and the one allegedly handcuffed, a foster child.

BIGHAM: That was awful. I just wish I'd have knowed that was going on because it would never have went on.

FLORES: Harper is a nurse. Larson is a supervisor at the Union County Department of Social Services. Because of her job title, she also faces failure to discharge her duty as a public official. Larson wasn't at the house when the child was found allegedly handcuffed, but she is accused of being complicit.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

FLORES: All of the children are in the custody of a social services agency outside of Union County. And we should add that the sheriff tells CNN that that boy on the porch is the only one who appears to be mistreated. Harper and Larson are scheduled to face a judge for their initial appearance on Monday.

Martin. Zoraida.

SAVIDGE: Well, yes, thank you, Rosa. I mean we just listen to that story, you're staggered. I mean you really -- what can you say? You don't know what to say.

SAMBOLIN: No, but you want to know. You want to understand the why.

SAVIDGE: Yes.

SAMBOLIN: So we're going to talk a little bit later to the sheriff of Union County to try to get some answers for you, try to understand how this happened.

So still to come on NEW DAY SUNDAY, an incredible scene caught on police dash cam when a routine traffic stop involving a mother and her five kids -- look at this, it gets out of control.

SAVIDGE: Plus, a special treat. Something good. The Harlem Globetrotters. They'll join us live to show off their eye-popping skills and talk about their goal of entertaining the troops overseas. Good news around the corner.

SAMBOLIN: Should be a little happy, don't you think. Yes, a little happy this morning.

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SAVIDGE: A van full of children with their mother in the driver's seat and shots fired by police.

SAMBOLIN: It is a story that's just now coming to light. It happened just outside the city of Taos, New Mexico, on October 28th. Now the mother and her sons are facing charges and the officers are under investigation here. Reporter Alex Goldsmith with our affiliate KRQE has more.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

POLICE: They're doing 71 in a 55, OK.

ALEX GOLDSMITH, KRQE REPORTER (voice-over): Oriana Ferrell and a state police officer are arguing over a ticket just south of Taos.

POLICE: I'll be right back. Go ahead and turn the vehicle off for me.

GOLDSMITH: But as the cop walks away, Ferrell does the opposite, pulling away instead. So he pulls her over again. The officer isn't too happy.

POLICE: Get out of the vehicle. Get out of the vehicle right now!

GOLDSMITH: You can see the officer tried to pull Ferrell out, while the five kids inside scream! Her 14-year-old son gets out by thinks again when the officer pulls his Taser. The struggle continues!

POLICE: You're already facing evading charges right now. You ran away from me, OK?

ORIANA FERRELL: Sir, I pulled back over. I didn't run away!

You see my children. I'm not trying to do anything wrong. I'm just trying to take them to the Rio Grande.

GOLDSMITH: Finally, Ferrell agrees to get out and talk, but the conversation doesn't last long.

POLICE: Turn around and face your vehicle. Ma'am, listen to me.

FERRELL: Please don't!

GOLDSMITH: Ferrell and the cop struggle as she tries to get back into the van. While that happens, the 14-year-old gets out again and this time he rushes the officer, trying to defend his mom. After a short tussle, the boy runs back into the minivan. The officer tries to get him out while backup arrives.

POLICE: Open the door! Open the door! GOLDSMITH: Ferrell starts to drive off while another officer fires at the minivan full of kids as young as six. Ferrell then takes them on to a four-minute high-speed chase into Taos, cutting into wrong way traffic before eventually pulling over and giving up in front of a hotel. Her 14-year-old son is arrested and so is she.

Alex Goldsmith, KRQE, News 13.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SAMBOLIN: All right, Martin, so you're watching this, and so what's your reaction?

SAVIDGE: Well, so -- well, I mean, first of all, this is one of those stories where it's like, what really went on?

SAMBOLIN: Yes.

SAVIDGE: I mean what was going on? And you could see that in both cases, maybe with the officers and with the driver, there are problems here in how they handled things. I just want to know, what was going on?

SAMBOLIN: I wonder why she pulled away the first time because it seems that maybe if she had not pulled away, maybe this wouldn't have escalated to the degree that it did.

SAVIDGE: Right.

SAMBOLIN: Who knows? But that is a bizarre story.

SAVIDGE: Yes. And -- but the thoughts of anybody firing at a vehicle -- and maybe that officer was unaware, of course, because he had just arrived on scene. So there's all of these what-ifs and maybe and who knows. And the truth is, an investigation hopefully is going to bring it all to light.

SAMBOLIN: We're going to find out, that's right.

SAVIDGE: Right.

SAMBOLIN: OK. It is now 18 minutes past the hour.

Officials believe they have found the body of 42-year-old Gerardo Nales. He is the man who found 1,800 feet out of a plane into the ocean on Thursday. Remember this story? It was just puzzling. Police say his body was found in a mangrove area yesterday morning, but they're waiting on the coroner for an official investigation. Detectives don't know yet if - I'm not sure if it's Nales or Nales -- fell from the plane accidentally or if he jumped. The pilot of this plane called in a distress call and he said, you know, somehow that door, as you saw it there in the animation, opened up and the guy fell out. It's a crazy -- bizarre story.

SAVIDGE: But, see, another story here where we're - we're --

SAMBOLIN: Yes. We need answers.

SAVIDGE: We need answers, which is why we're here.

Still to come, though, on NEW DAY SUNDAY, interceptions, last-second field goals, and then shattered title dreams. We'll have more on USC's stunning upset over Stanford last night.

SAMBOLIN: And why -- what happened after a game is putting a dark shadow over that victory.

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SAVIDGE: I have said this before, and I don't mean to sort of keep dragging it out, but I know coming from Cleveland what it's like to see your sports dreams shattered.

SAMBOLIN: Ahh!

SAVIDGE: What happened? We were -

SAMBOLIN: Poor thing.

SAVIDGE: We were right there. And that's what happened last night.

SAMBOLIN: You can relate.

SAVIDGE: Yes.

SAMBOLIN: You can relate there.

SAVIDGE: USC we're talking about.

SAMBOLIN: All right, so Joe Carter is joining us.

SAVIDGE: Yes.

SAMBOLIN: And actually I want people to stand by because it's rare that we talk about reindeers in sports.

JOE CARTER, BLEACHER REPORT: Yes.

SAMBOLIN: So I want folks to stand by for that.

CARTER: Yes, we'll get to that. It's our last story.

But really the first sorry is, it was so nice last night to see that epic throwback game between USC and Stanford. You know, these guys used to go at it in the past. We watched so many great games between these two programs. And it was nice to see Jonathan Martin, of all the people out last night, enjoying his alma mater, sitting there on the sidelines. Didn't take any interviews, just enjoyed the game last night.

It was refreshing as well to see USC go toe-to-toe with the fourth best team in the country. And then ultimately they upset the fourth best team in the country. USC kicked a field goal with 47 seconds left in the game. That pretty much sealed it, 20-17, and no one expected this, USC to upset Stanford, fourth best team in the country. Maybe Ed Orgeron, the new head coach there. I don't know. I mean they've won five of six since they fired Kiffin. So maybe. As for Stanford, any chance at a national title game is over for them.

Now, after the game there was news that some USC fans, when they stormed the field to celebrate, you see the malay (ph) there. The Los Angeles Fire Department said that five people were hurt during that stampede. No serious injuries here, though. The worst appears to be just a broken ankle.

Now an incredible play by Auburn has them in hunt for the SEC championship and maybe slightly a national championship. They were down by one to Georgia, 33 seconds left, a hail Mary is answered right there. Unbelievable. Nick Marshall puts the ball up and then it gets tipped into the hands of wide receiver Ricardo Louis. The guy wasn't even looking. Look at the replays. He wasn't even looking. It goes over the top of his head into his hands. It's being called the miracle at Jordan Hair (ph). Possibly the play of the year. Auburn would win 44-38. And now they've got two weeks to rest so they can prepare for number one Alabama in the Iron Bowl, which is going to be a great, great matchup.

Now, trending this morning on bleacherreport.com, it's a very unusual prize (ph). You've got to check out this story. American skier Mikaela Shiffrin, she won yesterday's first World Cup slalom event in Finland and the grand prize is that right there, a live reindeer.

SAMBOLIN: Why?

CARTER: Well, no, it's what they do in Finland. I really can't explain why. The name of the reindeer, so original, Rudolph they decided to it.

SAVIDGE: Oh, who saw that coming?

CARTER: Right. Obviously she wants to win an America - or, excuse me, an Olympics gold medal when she represents America in the - in the Olympics but -- coming up soon. But, you know, this isn't unusual because I guess they gave Lindsey Vonn a cow a few years ago when she won the event. So they give animals away, as well as a cash prize.

SAVIDGE: So you know that coming?

CARTER: Yes, you know that -- you possibly could win some sort of large anima.

SAMBOLIN: What do you do with a reindeer? I mean do you donate it or what do you do?

CARTER: She said she's going to keep it and - she said she's going to keep it in Finland and that when she goes back to visit, she's going to just visit her reindeer as well.

SAMBOLIN: All right.

SAVIDGE: Well, I hope she visits often. It will be one very hungry reindeer.

SAMBOLIN: Thank you, Joe.

CARTER: You bet.

SAMBOLIN: Oh, my goodness.

OK. So want to see the longest basketball shot ever made? Yes. Just look at this. Harlem Globetrotters rookie Corey Thunder somehow -- no way -- drained this amazing record-setting 109-foot basketball shot from the stands. Is this real?

SAVIDGE: Yes. (INAUDIBLE).

SAMBOLIN: Ah, question mark from Joe Carter.

SAVIDGE: What?

SAMBOLIN: Shattering the previous Guinness World Record by more than five feet.

CARTER: OK, that was real. That was real. Yes.

SAMBOLIN: And this is real, they say. Oh, it is real. Joe says it's real. No Hollywood special effects there. That's incredible!

SAVIDGE: Yes, well, I've seen that shot, it is amazing to see. Basketball can be a game of inches, but it was clear, that was like by a mile.

SAMBOLIN: Oh!

SAVIDGE: Here's another moment, though.

SAMBOLIN: That's very scary there.

SAVIDGE: And this was William Bullard. He recently avoided serious injury when the backboard came down on him after a slam dunk. It's pretty terrifying to watch, but the good news is he was able to walk off the court to a standing ovation. He only suffered a nasty cut to the head and an injured shoulder.

SAMBOLIN: Oh, my goodness. You see that and you're shocked, right?

SAVIDGE: So anybody who thinks that this is just entertainment, just, you know, goofing -

SAMBOLIN: Yes.

SAVIDGE: It shows you right there, it is potentially dangerous.

SAMBOLIN: Yes, it is indeed.

All right, and speaking of the Globetrotters, we have a very special treat for you this morning.

SAVIDGE: Yes, stars from the one and only team are going to join us to talk this hour. All the news that they are making.

SAMBOLIN: You want to challenge them to a game, Martin.

SAVIDGE: Oh, no, come on, I'm not a fool.

And, of course, they'll be there to perform some of the great spins and tricks, live on the air.

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SAMBOLIN: Mortgage rates were mixed this past week. Take a look.

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SAMBOLIN: Welcome back. 31 minutes past the hour. I'm Zoraida Sambolin.

SAVIDGE: And I'm Martin Savidge. Here are the five things you need to know for your NEW DAY, I'm going to warn you - most of them are not that pleasant. Authorities say that they discovered an 11-year-old boy handcuffed to the front porch of his North Carolina home with a dead chicken tied around his neck. His foster parents are jailed, they're charged with child abuse. The boy and four other children who lived in that home are now in state custody.

SAMBOLIN: At number two, today, people across the Philippines gathered at damaged churches to pray for the dead, just a week since Supertyphoon claimed thousands of lives there. Some churches are providing food and shelter to hundreds of families. Meanwhile, some people who have been scavenging for food all week are finally getting access to aid.

SAVIDGE: Number three, and this is so important for dog owners, they are being told to take caution. Although investigations are only going, a possibly deadly virus known as the circovirus may be linked to multiple canine deaths in California and Michigan. Dog owners should check with their vets if they notice excessive vomiting or lethargy.

SAMBOLIN: Wow.

SAVIDGE: There's no known vaccine, but according to Michigan State University there is no evidence that it can be transmitted to humans.

SAMBOLIN: And come over to your TV. I want you to take a look at this map. If you live in the bright pink area, you could be in the path of a possible tornado outbreak today. The National Weather Service predicts parts of Illinois, Indiana, and Michigan could see multiple, significant tornadoes and very damaging winds. More than 6 million people live in that bright pink area there.

SAVIDGE: Number five, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford was the target of this week's "Saturday Night Live." The show cast Rob Ford who admitted last week that he was smoking - or had smoked crack cocaine. They also poked fun of his erratic behavior including lewd comments he had made on television. Tomorrow, Toronto city council members will vote to place the mayor's office in the hands of his deputy.

SAMBOLIN: And nuclear talks with Iran pick up again Wednesday in Geneva. Russia says now's the time to close a deal.

SAVIDGE: Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr had the chance to ask Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel about that potential agreement. It is a CNN exclusive from the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California.

BARBARA STARR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Zoraida, Martin, I asked Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel straight up, how worried is he if there is a U.S.-led nuclear agreement with Iran, that Israel might feel so isolated, it might react with military force and bomb Iran's suspected nuclear sites.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHUCK HAGEL, DEFENSE SECRETARY: Well, those are realities that the Israelis tell us, explain that to us. We understand that. I think the Iranians understand that.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STARR: Hagel insisted the U.S. won't go for what he calls a bad agreement, just to have an agreement. But here at a gathering of defense experts and lawmakers at the Reagan Presidential Library, there was plenty of skepticism about an agreement with Iran and a lot of that skepticism was led by key Democrats, including Hagel's predecessor, former defense secretary, Leon Panetta.

LEON PANETTA, FRM. DEFENSE SECRETARY: There are obviously a whole set of concerns that have to be addressed. What's going to happen with the enriched fuel that they've already developed. What's going to happen with the 10,000 centrifuges that are still there? What's going to happen with this heavy water reactor? And how is all of this going to be inspected and verified.

STARR: But is trust and verify enough when it comes to Iran? The powerful chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee says, no.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. CARL LEVIN, (D) CHMN., ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE: I love the slogan, trust but verify, but I've never understood it, because I think the right slogan is don't trust. I don't trust the Iranians. And by the way, they don't trust us.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STARR: So the message here at the Reagan presidential library was many Democrats joining with pro-defense Republicans in being very skeptical of any nuclear agreement with Iran. Zoraida, Martin?

SAVIDGE: Thank you, Barbara. Barbara Starr on the road with the defense secretary in Southern California. Well, the Navy says that two sailors were injured when a drone malfunctioned and crashed into a ship during a training exercise. That incident happened yesterday afternoon while the ship was testing combat operations off the coast of Southern California. The ship is now headed back to the base to assess the damage and also so that investigators can try to figure out why it happened and why the drone malfunctioned.

SAMBOLIN: And still to come on "NEW DAY," the one and only Harlem Globetrotters. If you have ever seen them live, you are in for a treat this morning. Here's a little look at what they have in store for us.

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SAMBOLIN: Checking headlines around the world. First to Tacloban, one of the cities hardest hit by the super typhoon in the Philippines. CNN's Anna Coren is at the airport, where people are trying to escape the devastation. Anna?

ANNA COREN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: (inaudible) here at Tacloban Airport, where there are thousands of people who are gathered in the hope that they can get out of this devastated city. Many of them have been waiting patiently here for days, camping out. They've brought their luggage, which is really all that remains of their belongings. They're hoping to either get to Cebu or Manila where they can meet up with family and friends or stay at evacuation centers.

But the rain is causing a huge problem. As you can see, it is absolutely torrential. And it is hampering not only their flight to get out of here, but also the aid operation.

The rain has eased, so we wanted to bring you out onto the tarmac to show you what is going. As you can see, the aid is being piled up on the tarmac. It's ready to be distributed. It's coming in from USAID, UNHCR, the Red Cross, and other relief organizations. We're not just talking about food and water, medicine, the basic necessities, but also plastic sheeting for emergency shelters, as well as sanitation kits and water purification kits. So very important as we move into week two of this natural disaster.

Now, while Tacloban has been very much the focus of this massive relief operation, you know, authorities are now saying we need to start focusing on other areas that have been just as hard hit, that have not received the media attention. Anna Coren, CNN, Tacloban, the Philippines.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SAMBOLIN: Thank you, Anna.

And now to Tokyo where Caroline Kennedy is making history just days before the 50TH anniversary of her father's assassination. CNN's Saima Mohsin reports from Hong Kong. Saima.

SAIMA MOHSIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Caroline Kennedy arrived in Tokyo to take up her post as U.S. ambassador there. The daughter of President John F. Kennedy, who was killed 50 years ago next week, is the first woman to serve as America's ambassador to Japan. The country where women's roles have traditionally been restricted. Kennedy was sworn in by Secretary of State John Kerry in Washington on Tuesday. Back to you, Zoraida.

SAMBOLIN: All right, thank you very much.

And now to London, where Prince Harry is leaving for his trip to Antarctica and some of the most extreme weather on the planet. CNN's royal correspondent, Max Foster, is in London. Max?

MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Prince Harry leaves the UK on Sunday, set for Antarctica, and a 200-mile trek in temperatures as low as minus 45 degrees. And with a 70 kilogram sled in tow. He's joined a team of British veterans who lost limbs in combat and who are competing against a team from the U.S. and another made up of Canadians and Australians. It's all about raising funds and awareness for injured veterans.

SAMBOLIN: Max Foster, thank you very much. Martin, over to you?

SAVIDGE: Thanks very much.

Have you ever seen the Harlem Globetrotters live? Well, three of the stars join us live right after the break for a special preview of their upcoming military tour. You're not going to want to miss this. Stay here.

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SAMBOLIN: Do you like that music? It was a wild couple of days for the one and only Harlem Globetrotters. First, Globetrotter William Bullard avoided a very serious injury. Did you see this? His slam dunk sent the entire backboard crashing down right on top of him. Things could have ended much worse for Bullard, who was able to walk off the court and to a standing ovation. He's OK.

SAVIDGE: Then Harlem Globetrotters rookie, Cory Thunder (ph), somehow drained this amazing record-setting 109-foot basketball shot, shattering the previous Guinness world record by more than five feet.

SAMBOLIN: I wasn't a believer, but that is -- look at it right there, you can see it. Follow it, follow it, follow it. It happened. Now the beloved team has announced plans to entertain our troops overseas with some of their very unique and very cool skills. We are so excited to have them there, live right outside the CNN center in New York. Y'all are supposed to be in Atlanta. We have Hi-Lite Bruton, TNT Maddox and Special K. Daily. Thank you so much for entertaining us this morning. We really appreciate it.

So what we want to know is, will the troops get to see any record- setting shots like the one that we just saw?

HI-LITE BRUTON, HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS: Well, my specialty is making the crowd smile. And my friend, Special K, he does the same thing, and TNT. Good, family-style entertainment is what the Harlem Globetrotters is all about.

SAVIDGE: Let me ask you guys real quick. Give us a taste of some of what you're going to be demonstrating for the troops when you're over there.

BRUTON: Well, what he would like to do for the troops is, we would like to go over there and bring a piece of America to them. We're going to Europe and they can't come to us, so we come to them. And they do so much for us, Americans, not just Americans, but people all over the world. So it's a pleasure and it is an honor for us to go over there and entertain our troops.

SAMBOLIN: So I understand you guys even have a really special camouflage basketball that you use for this particular tour.

BRUTON: That's right. This is the camouflage basketball that we'll be using, and this is the fifth straight year that we're using this camouflage basketball in order to show the troops how much we appreciate them. So we're going over there with this camouflage basketball to let them know the Harlem Globetrotters and the world are still backing you, we're watching you guys, and thank you for everything you're doing.

SAMBOLIN: We want to see a little something-something while we talk.

SAVIDGE: Yes. Give us a demonstration of what the troops are going to see overseas from you. Show us something.

BRUTON: You guys want to see a demonstration? Okay. Here we go. How you feeling, Special K? There you go right there, baby! Ah, yeah! That's Special K. Right there, TNT Maddox! All right!

SAMBOLIN: That's fantastic, guys. We're really thrilled that you decided to join us today. This isn't the first time you have entertained the troops overseas though, is it?

BRUTON: It's not the first time. I've been overseas to entertain the troops about ten times, and actually, we're going to be leaving the day after Thanksgiving to go over there and entertain the troops. And we've been to a lot of places. You know, one of the most exciting places for me is playing in the Persian Gulf on the "USS Eisenhower."

SAVIDGE: I've seen a number of the shows overseas, and I know how much the troops really appreciate it. It is a way of sort of bringing a bit of America home to them, especially during the holiday period when they're not there. What was the reaction from the troops when you've been doing this?

BRUTON: I'm sorry?

SAVIDGE: What's the reaction from the troops when you've been performing before?

BRUTON: Man, it's crazy. When we come over there, we step off the plane and we're walking off the plane going to the troops, man, they treat us like we're royalty. But actually, we're over there to serve them, because they serve so many others. So that's what my job is, and I love it. I really love going over there and performing for the troops. It's not a burden or anything like that. And actually, we can't wait to get over there.

SAMBOLIN: That's fantastic, especially you're going right after the holidays. That's going to mean a lot to everyone.

I want to talk to you about one other thing before we let you go. It was that scary moment that happened to your teammate that almost got seriously hurt when that hoop came crashing down on him. Has anything like that ever happened before?

BRUTON: Harlem Globetrotters, we play every single night, and Bull Bullard actually did that same dunk a million times. Just one of those freak things, but Bull is OK. He's a super athlete. You'll probably see him on the Ninja (ph), and he's fine. He's going to be playing and you guys can go to the arena, Ticketmaster, check him out, Harlemglobetrotters.com, and Bull Bullard, Special K., TNT and Hi- Lite, we'll be coming to a city near you.

SAVIDGE: That's wonderful. I'm so glad to see that he's okay, and we are really proud of you going over there and supporting the men and women who are serving our country overseas.

SAMBOLIN: Yeah, thank you so much. Appreciate your time this morning. I wish they were here, because I want to learn how to, you know, twirl that basketball on my finger. So maybe next time. Thank you!

SAVIDGE: See you, guys. That is so appreciated. I know it is, by the troops.

SAMBOLIN: We'll be right back.

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SAMBOLIN: Welcome back. Each week, we are shining a spotlight on the top ten CNN heroes of 2013. As you vote for the one who inspires you the most at cnnheroes.com. This week's honoree is challenging the tradition of female genital mutilation that still exists in many countries and fighting to give girls a chance to shape their own destinies.

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KAKENYA NTAIYA, CNN HERO: I avoided the ceremony as far as I could. Most of the Maasai girls undergo this mutilation when they are 12. I really liked going to school. I knew that once I go to the cutting I am going to be married off and my dream of becoming a teacher was going to end. My mind said run away but I had to face my dad and say I would only go through the cutting if he lets me go back to school.

It was done in the morning using a very old rusty knife with no anesthesia. I can never forget that day. Eventually, I was the first girl in my community to go to college in the U.S. I am Kakenya Ntaiya, and I return to my village to start a school for girls so they, too, can achieve their full potential. When they start at school they are very shy, but over time you see them very confident.

How are you girls?

They are doing very well. It is the most exciting thing. Our walk is about empowering the girls. These girls are saying no to being cut and dreaming of becoming lawyers, teachers, doctors.

My daughter will do better than my son.

Why should you work hard to achieve your goals?

I came back to the girls in my community don't have to negotiate like I did to achieve their dreams. That's why I wake up every morning.

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SAMBOLIN: CNNheroes.com for you to vote.

All right, and while Princeton students and alumni gathered at yesterday's homecoming game, the university board was holding its own meeting. They are trying to determine whether they should offer students a vaccine to protect against a rare outbreak of meningitis.

SAVIDGE: The CDC says the drug, which is only approved overseas, can be used under these circumstances, but not every student is so sure. Here's CNN's Alexandra Field with the story.

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ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Princeton University tries to stem the spread of meningitis "B," a potentially deadly disease.

ANGELICA CHEN, STUDENT: We just try to be careful, but we're not freaking out about it.

FIELD: Doctors have linked seven cases of the bacterial meningitis to the Ivy League campus. Now board members are considering whether to offer students a vaccine that's only used overseas.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I were a parent, I would be very interested in getting the information and generally accepting. And if I were around that table with the board of trustees, I would be gently encouraging them to do this.

FIELD: There's no approved hepatitis (sic) B vaccine in the United States, but given the outbreak of the rare strain on an American campus, the CDC has FDA approval to import Baccero (ph). It's the only vaccine for meningitis B, and it's approved for use in Europe and Australia.

If this vaccine was brought to the campus, would you encourage your son to take it? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think I would tell him to take it, but I'm not sure, because I'm not sure of the drawbacks.

FIELD: Princeton's first case of meningitis "B" was diagnosed back in March when a student returned from spring break. The seventh case was diagnosed last week. The possibility of a vaccine is what some students have been hoping for.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It will take off a lot of the stress that we're going through right now.

FIELD: If board members and university administrators agree to offer the vaccine, it would be available to some 8,000 students on a voluntary basis.

TYLER TAMASI, STUDENT: I trust the vaccine, as long as it's approved in Europe and Australia, it gives me confidence in like the fact that it works, I guess. I probably wouldn't get it at the moment. Like I said, I'm not too worried about the whole meningitis outbreak yet. So if Princeton starts vaccinating students, I don't know if I would be first in line for it.

FIELD: Alexandra Field, CNN, Princeton, New Jersey.

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SAMBOLIN: A school spokesman tells CNN the final decision on whether or not the vaccine will even be offered is not expected before Monday.

SAVIDGE: Well, thanks for starting your morning with us.

SAMBOLIN: We've got a lot more ahead on "NEW DAY Sunday," which starts right now.

Good morning, everyone. I'm Zoraida Sambolin. Nice to have you with us today.

SAVIDGE: I'm Martin Savidge. It's 7:00 on the East Coast.

SAMBOLIN: A good mood this morning!

SAVIDGE: 4:00 in the west if you haven't figured the math out. This is "NEW DAY" on Sunday.

SAMBOLIN: We start this hour with recovery in the Philippines now entering week two after that deadly super typhoon ripped apart homes, devastated so many lives. Today people in the largely Catholic nation are returning to church, and many are finding their places of worship badly damaged. Despite that, many are finding solace and hope.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is the only time, this is the only place where we can unburden all the things that we are feeling, because of our faith. And with him, we are -- we feel that there's a sense of security with the Lord. (END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: The death toll has risen again, that happened overnight. The government now confirming 3,681 deaths, with more than 12,500 people hurt, and more than 1,100 that are still reported as missing.

SAMBOLIN: Reporter Karl Penhaul is in Tacloban. Karl, you attended a really emotional mass this morning. Can you tell us about that?

KARL PENHAUL, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Zoraida and Martin. Even these sanctuaries, these sturdy buildings that are churches here in the Philippines were not safe from that superstorm. And we went down to the Santo Nino church, one of the largest here in Tacloban, the roof was absolutely peeled off by the typhoon when it passed over and the rain was pouring down on to Sunday mass. That doesn't stop the faithful from going there.

At one end of the church, at the altar, the priest trying to assure his congregation that this was not the end of the world, that there was still hope that they could still move forward. You look around in the small crowd that have gathered there, and difficult for many of them to find solace. Two sisters, both mothers, 10 days after the typhoon struck, they're still hunting for five of their children. The youngest of them, 2 years old.

And at this stage, they don't know where they are, whether they are alive or dead. They say they were taken down by the tidal surge like it was a washing machine, spun this way, spun that way. And when the mothers emerged from the waves, they couldn't find their children. The hunt goes on, but at this stage, certainly, easy to imagine that they might be dead.

But, of course, the focus is now on the survivors and relief aid is starting to filter in, amid all the chaos Tacloban now, we saw a little being handed out to lines that were hundreds of yards long, a few cans of food, a few cakes, a few rolls of bread, but enough to give people some hope that now help is starting to get through and those bottlenecks have been broken -- Martin and Zoraida.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: We'll be talking with the representative of the U.S. military about the aide and the effort that the U.S. providing.

Thanks, Karl Penhaul, very much.

SAMBOLIN: And for ways that you can help survivors of Typhoon Haiyan, go to CNN.com/impact. There's a lot of information on there and ways in which you could potentially help all of these victims.

SAVIDGE: Moving on now to North Carolina, excuse me, this story is just shocking. It's occurring just a few miles south of Charlotte and authorities there say they've stumbled on an absolutely sickening case of child abuse.

SAMBOLIN: Listen to this. A child handcuffed to a front porch, a dead chicken tied around his neck. CNN's Rosa Flores is on that story. Good morning to you, Rosa.

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ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Martin, Zoraida, there are many shocking factors to this story, and perhaps one of the most shocking is the profession of the mother in question. She actually works for the Department of Social Services.

(voice-over): The outside of this North Carolina house provides clues of the alleged horrors happening here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The child had a dead chicken hung around his neck.

FLORES: Sheriff's deputies say that 11-year-old boy was shivering, while allegedly handcuffed by the ankle to the porch. When the deputy asked the owner what was going on, another child opened the front door, releasing several large dogs that chased the deputy to his cruiser.

TONY BIGMAN, NEIGHBOR: Man, he come out of here when greased lightning when he came back out of here.

FLORES: Authorities won't get into the details, but the authorities of the house, Dorian Lee Harper and Wanda Sue Larson, now face intentional child abuse, inflicting serious injury, false imprisonment, and cruelty to animals charges.

Authorities removed five children from the home, ages 8 to 14. Four adopted kids and the one allegedly handcuffed, a foster child.

BIGMAN: That was awful. I wish I had known that was going on, because it would have never went on.

FLORES: Harper is a nurse. Larson is a supervisor at the Union County Department of Social Services. Because of her job title, she also faced failure to discharge her duty as a public official. Larson wasn't at the house when the child was found allegedly handcuffed, but she's accused of being complicit.

(on camera): All of the children are in the custody of a social services agency outside of Union County. And we should add that the sheriff tells CNN that that boy on the porch is the only one who appears to be mistreated. Harper and Larson are scheduled to face a judge for their initial appearance on Monday -- Martin, Zoraida.

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SAVIDGE: Thank you, Rosa. Rosa Flores covering that story from New York for us this morning.

SAMBOLIN: And Union County, North Carolina, Sheriff Eddie Cathey is joining us by phone.

Thank you for taking time to speak to us about this horrific case this morning. SHERIFF EDDIE CATHEY, UNION COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA (via telephone): Yes, ma'am.

SAVIDGE: Sheriff, what led you to conclude that the four other children in the home had not been abused?

CATHEY: Well, that's a little misleading. We have not concluded they haven't been abused, we've just seen no obvious sign other than a small amount of weight loss in those children. But we're still investigating this and the investigation will tell that.

SAMBOLIN: And we understand from the reports that you found this really by happenstance. I think an officer was responding to something that was happening in another home and happened to see this little boy on the porch. He was handcuffed, and he had a dead chicken around his neck. Do -- do you have any explanation for that, when you talked to the homeowners?

CATHEY: Well, when we talked to the homeowners, no, but we don't have any idea of what would possess anybody to handcuff a child out on a porch on a cold, wintry morning with very little clothes on and tie a dead chicken around his neck. I can't understand that and to be honest with you, I'm glad I can't understand it.

SAMBOLIN: Right.

SAVIDGE: And so they haven't said anything to you? I mean, you must have questioned them both. Have they given any kind of explanation as to what was going on?

CATHEY: The male subject that we arrested actually requested an attorney and has not cooperated and Ms. Larson has cooperated, and she has given us a lot of information.

SAMBOLIN: Is there any information you can share with us?

CATHEY: Well, there's not information we can share with you. It is -- she works in this, so we know she knew about it. She knew right from wrong, she knew the law. Any person with any common sense knows that you can't treat children this way.

So, our officer will continue to talk to them, as they talk to us, and we will talk to these kids, and then we'll make a determine to how to move forward with the prosecution.

SAVIDGE: This was a foster child who was found outside, handcuffed by the officer. Had they had other foster children? I mean, could there be concerns of previous children that have been in their care?

CATHEY: Well, it is concerning. There's four other children that were there, were adopted children. So those are questions that we will have to answer as we move along is, how did they adopt those children? How did they get those children? How was their home visits? If you look at this home, you know, we also wouldn't have allowed them to adopt an animal out of the animal shelter.

SAMBOLIN: And this particular family had never been in trouble with the law before?

CATHEY: We know of nothing yet.

SAMBOLIN: All right, sheriff, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us this morning, Sheriff Eddie Cathey, Union County sheriff there. It's just mind-boggling, absolutely mind boggling.

SAVIDGE: It's a horrific story that just -- I mean, you want to know so much more.

SAMBOLIN: Right. There's no justification for what they found, but what you do want to understand is, what were they thinking, right? What was going through these folk's minds, that they did something like that to a child and the other children? Because they seemed to be in good condition, but you don't know yet.

SAVIDGE: I can't imagine they were thinking anything. I mean, I just -- I'm sorry, I'm at a loss.

All right, moving on. He's as recognizable as many of his famous clients he has defended, Bill Clinton to O.J. Simpson to Mike Tyson. Attorney Alan Dershowitz joins us live to reflect on his 50 years in law. That is next.

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SAVIDGE: You already know this, but I'll repeat it anyway. He's represented some of the biggest names in the news, Bill Clinton, Mike Tyson, Patty Hearst, O.J. Simpson, you could go on and on with that list. Now, famed attorney Alan Dershowitz has a new book, "Taking the Stand: Reflecting on 50 Years of Life in Law."

SAMBOLIN: And also, you've been teaching for 50 years. That's fantastic.

Joining us this morning, we have Alan Dershowitz.

Excited to have you this morning.

I want to dive right into this book, because lots of folks are reading it and they say there are a lot of saucy details in this book. Care to share some of those?

ALAN DERSHOWITZ, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL: Well, you know, there's a big dispute now about who is the father of Ronan Farrow, Mia Farrow's son. I can't tell you the answer to that, but in the middle of the Mia Farrow/Woody Allen custody dispute, a phone call.

He said, "Hi, this is Frank." And I said, "Frank who?" He said, "What do you mean Frank who?" as if there's no other Frank in the world.

"Frank Sinatra, I love that girl, Mia. I was married to her. I love here. I don't like what Woody is doing. What can I do to help?"

I didn't want -- I didn't want Frank Sinatra, with his reputation as a tough guy interfering, so I said, "Please, please, don't do anything." But he really, really loved her. So maybe that gives you some clue.

SAVIDGE: I can imagine, clearly, people who you represent and also being so famous yourself that you had these kind of moments. For instance, the one I read about was that you were with -- well, you're in a private room with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and he wants to know --

DERSHOWITZ: Did O.J. do it?

And I said, "Mr. Prime Minister, does Israel have nuclear weapons?" He says, "You know I can't tell you that," and I said, "Aha, I can't tell you that."

SAVIDGE: Nice deflection.

SAMBOLIN: There's another one in here. It's a Marcia Clark moment. Please tell me about that one.

DERSHOWITZ: Marcia Clark went up to Johnnie Cochran. He was about to make his closing argument in the O.J., and I want you to think of one thing when you make your closing argument, and he said, "What?", and she said, "I'm not wearing any underwear." I didn't believe it. So, I called Marcia Clark, and I said, "Is that true?" She said, "Absolutely." I said, "Which part of it, that you're wearing underwear or you told Johnnie Cochran?" She said, "That you'll never know."

She uses all of her resources. You got to give her credit.

SAVIDGE: She used every opportunity she could.

Let me ask you, is there ever a client whom you turned down? I know you get many, many people come to you, but not necessarily because of case load. I'm talking about because of what they did.

DERSHOWITZ: No, not because of what they did. But I do turn down clients because of what they're going to do. I don't represent people who are in organized crime, who are drug dealers, who are terrorists, who are in the business of continuing crime. I don't want to be consigliore to a crime family. I don't want to help people go back to the business of doing crime.

But there is no crime too serious, nor is there any person to presumptive guilty who doesn't deserve a defense. So, I'm there to help them, a lot of my clients have probably been guilty. Thank God for that. Would we want to live in a country where the majority of people charged of crime are innocent? That might Iran and China, it's not the United States. And to keep it that way, defense lawyers like me have to represent people who might be guilty or innocent.

A lot of them turn out to be innocent. I'll tell you about a fascinating case. I was representing a woman who was an exotic dancer, who was involved with Binion from Binion's Casino. He ended up dead. They thought she had smothered him to death and they found a button mark on his body, the same shape as the button he was wearing, proving that his chest had been compressed. I did an analysis, blew up the photograph. Turned out it wasn't a button mark at all. It was a pre-existing benign tumor and she walked free. She now has an art gallery, has two kids. That kind of thing really makes you feel good.

SAMBOLIN: Are there any other stories like that where you start going down one road and it just totally surprises you with the twists and turns?

DERSHOWITZ: Absolutely. Even the O.J. Simpson case. Look, I was on TV the morning after the murder and I said, usually it's the husband who did it, probably did it. And I still don't know, obviously, anymore than anybody else does, but I did discover that the sock that they claim he was wearing during the time of the killing and had his blood and the blood of the victim's was actually manufactured by the police.

How do I know that? Because the blood on it had EDTA, which is a chemical not found in the human body, but only put in test tubes to make sure the blood doesn't coagulate. And also, the blood had mirror images on all four sides. If he was wearing the sock at the time, there would only be mirror images on the first side and second side, but not the third and fourth. If you pour the blood, it has images on all four sides.

So, we didn't win the O.J. case, they lost it. Because the jury believed that the police were trying to frame somebody who they believed were guilty.

SAVIDGE: Yes, they did.

Yes, well, why -- let me ask you this -- why come out with a memoir now?

DERSHOWITZ: Well, it's been 50 years, I'm 75 years old, it's my 30th book. It's time. And, you know, who knows whether I'll have a chance to write another memoir.

I also want to predict what the law will look like in the next 50 years. So, it's a 100-year book -- 50 years looking back, 50 years looking forward. This is the right time for me to be reflecting on my future, on the law's future.

And I make a lot of predictions. I think the Supreme Court will diminish in its authority over the next 50 years.

SAMBOLIN: Well, it is a great read. We are so glad you're with us this morning. What a great story teller, right? I want to sit in on one of your classes. Thank you very much for joining us today.

DERSHOWITZ: My pleasure.

SAVIDGE: "Taking the Stand" is the book. Alan Dershowitz is the author.

And a pleasure to sharing stories. So many more we could talk about. You are up early with NEW DAY SUNDAY.

It's beginning to look a lot like 2016. Key Republican turns up in Iowa.

SAMBOLIN: Where you're going with that?

SAVIDGE: I was wondering that myself.

And he promptly rips into Obamacare. What a shot (ph).

SAMBOLIN: And he has become the butt of plenty jokes. Now "Saturday Night Live" gets its turn at mocking the Toronto's controversial mayor.

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SAVIDGE: You know, when a Washington politician trades the Beltway for Iowa, you know somebody is thinking about 2016.

SAMBOLIN: Democrats have given potential Republican candidates a really easy target, Obamacare.

SAVIDGE: CNN's Erin McPike joins us now from Washington.

And, Erin, what did Congressman Paul Ryan tell Iowans about the new health care law. I imagine it wasn't good.

ERIN MCPIKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Martin, he obviously said that he thought Obamacare was very harmful to millions of people. But what was interesting about his speech is that he said that he and Mitt Romney were running against big government in theory, but that if Iowans got a chance to see what Obamacare was really like in practice, the outcome of the election could be different. And he raked President Obama over the coals for it.

Here's a little bit of what he had to say last night.

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REP. PAUL RYAN (R), WISCONSIN: We heard all of the soaring rhetoric and all of these promises. And now we see what's happening. The way I see it, there are only two explanations. Either they were being dishonest or they were just incompetent. Frankly, I don't know which one is the worse.

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MCPIKE: Now, he also said the next time a famous politician comes to Iowa, he hopes that Iowans will be a little more skeptical, which is, of course, a dig at Iowa Democrats for selecting Barack Obama in the caucuses in 2008 and perhaps a warning shot to Iowa Democrats for 2016, if Hillary Clinton comes through, Martin.

SAVIDGE: And, Erin, I know -- you know, of course, Ryan was on the losing side of the ticket in 2012. Is that going to hurt his chances in Iowa coming up?

MCPIKE: Not really, no, because Iowans got a chance to see him when he was campaigning in 2012, and he talked a lot about what they learned from that loss in 2012. And generally, Republicans at least, tend to value the kind of experience that Republicans can get when they make a first presidential run. And it seems that he got a pretty good reception in Iowa last night.

So, it actually shouldn't hurt him at all.

SAMBOLIN: All right. CNN's Erin McPike, thanks so much for getting up early with us. Appreciate it.

SAVIDGE: And if you are just waking up, where have you been. Embattled Mayor Rob Ford was the target of last night's "SNL".

SAMBOLIN: The show's cast mocked his admission of smoking crack cocaine and his recent very erratic behavior. We're going to show you all the highlights in case you missed it, right after the break.

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SAVIDGE: In Toronto, another push to boot Mayor Rob Ford out of his job. He's been in the crossfire since he's admitted to smoking crack cocaine. Tomorrow, lawmakers will vote on placing the mayor's office and budget in the hands of his deputy. They've already stripped his power to govern during an emergency and appoint committee chairs.

SAMBOLIN: And they aren't the only ones who want ford out. On Saturday -- look at this -- angry protesters, they gathered outside of Toronto City hall with one very clear message: Rob Ford has to go. But the defiant mayor says he is not going anywhere. Ford is scheduled to launch his own TV show tomorrow, with one of his biggest supporters, his brother.

All right. And the jokes -- you know, they just won't stop when it comes to the controversial mayor. His provided plenty of fodder for late-night television.

SAVIDGE: Oh, he is such rich material. The cast of "Saturday Night Live" took their shot last night and here's a look in case you missed it.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am sorry for how I have been acting. It is not indicative of my position of mayor in this great town of Toronto.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, man, I got what you asked for.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, not here, OK? Let's do it under the desk.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (singing): I'm the best mayor of all of the mayors, I'm the best mayor in the world, your mayor and suck my (EXPLETIVE DELETED)

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SAMBOLIN: How many times have you watched it, Martin, and there are still tears in your eyes.

SAVIDGE: Clearly not enough.

SAMBOLIN: All right. So, in another sketch, the show poked fun at the mayor's public image.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're worried about your public image?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course I am, but I feel like my public image is suffering because I don't have any good photos. I just feel like I would be better off if I had a good head shot, you know? Do you mind if I get one now with your cameras?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, yes, sure. I'll count you down, all right?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, good.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Three, two, one!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I think we got it!

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SAMBOLIN: Oh, my goodness, we just told you that he's launching this talk show. So, apparently they're going to have a lot more material.

SAVIDGE: The reality show has just had a huge audience. I wonder if they have a recall process. I don't know. That was something that sort of crossed my mind politically. Does Canada have that? So, we'll have to see.

SAMBOLIN: I don't know. But, you know, that has been kind of what they've talked about. How much can they do and how much can't they do? That's why they keep on stripping him of power, slowly but surely. I guess they're hope he will step away.

SAVIDGE: Maybe he should hope the TV show takes off.

SAMBOLIN: All right. So, now, for a must see moment.

Watch this firefighter in Arizona, folks. Look at how close he comes to falling off the balcony of that burning apartment.

SAVIDGE: We'll tell you how it happened. The charred railing gave away after he slipped and fell. I'm still mesmerized. Thankfully, he got stuck on the ledge, and that kept him from, of course, falling and landing on his head. His fellow firefighters got to him in time, and he is OK.

SAMBOLIN: As if they don't risk their lives enough, right?

SAVIDGE: They do. They really --

SAMBOLIN: Unbelievable!

All right. We're going to see you back here at the top of the hour.

SAVIDGE: And we look forward to it.

But first, "SANJAY GUPTA, M.D." begins right now.