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Jane Velez-Mitchell

Masked Predator Attacking Texas Women?; Wife Accused of Helping Kill Husband`s Ex

Aired January 27, 2014 - 19:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Tonight, a bone-chilling mystery. A beautiful young woman vanishes into thin air in a small Texas town while taking a walk near her in-laws` house, just hours before a terrifying attack on a young woman jogging in the same general area. Is a man in a ski mask preying on beautiful young women in Texas?

Good evening, I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell coming to you live.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She went for a walk while visiting his parents in Texas and never returned.

JOSH BEARDEN, LEANNE`S HUSBAND: You know, the daytimes I`m strong- ish. The night times are awful.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sometimes not knowing is worse than knowing.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Cops say 33-year-old Leanne Bearden left her in-laws` house in Garden Ridge, Texas, which is near San Antonio, in jeans and a T- shirt to go for a walk. She didn`t have her cell phone with her. It was just a casual little stroll. But after a few hours, her husband realized something was terribly wrong.

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J. BEARDEN: I knew after three hours that something was really, really wrong.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Search parties have now scoured the entire area, looking, hunting for any trace of Leanne, but so far they have not found any clues. Zero. It is a total mystery.

But just hours after Leanne disappeared, a female jogger was attacked 30 miles away by a masked man who happened to have a spider tattoo. The jogger successfully fought off the masked attacker. The suspect has not been identified or located. Are these two cases connected? We`re asking tonight.

Call me, 1-877-JVM-SAYS, 1-877-586-7297. Together, we`re going to try to solve this case.

Joining me now in a primetime exclusive, Leanne`s husband, Josh Bearden. Josh, first of all, I want to say that my heart goes out to you. I`m so sorry over what you`re going through. I understand that this is a complete nightmare. But I probably don`t even have an inkling of what you`re feeling emotionally.

I want to say, cops have cleared you of any involvement. That is a published report.

Let`s -- let`s start with what you`re going through. What has this been like since the 17th?

J. BEARDEN: It`s been just the worst experience that you could possibly imagine, to go from traveling around the world for two years with your best friend, and seeing her every single day, and then all of a sudden she`s just gone, and nobody has any idea where she is. It`s the worst feeling that anybody could ever have.

And I want to thank you for helping us today, and being interested in our story.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We are very interested. And we want to see if somehow we can either jog somebody`s memory who is watching.

Now, here`s the thing that I want to clarify. What time exactly did she go out, and why would she go out without a cell phone? And yet I understand she had her wallet with her.

J. BEARDEN: You know, we always go out for a walk with a cell phone. So normally, you know, she wouldn`t have her cell phone with her. Plus we only had one cell phone. Because we`d been sharing a cell phone, until we moved back to Denver. So her not having a cell phone isn`t that unusual, because I was doing job interviews.

And as far as the wallet goes, we always hike with our wallet or go walk around with our wallet. I really don`t understand why that`s unusual. But I guess it is. We always go for a walk with our wallets.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Well, let me ask you to stand by. We`re going to mention some clues that we have so far. And they`re few and far between. And then we`re going to get your reaction and the experts that we have on our panel to try to solve this. Or at least get a break of some sort.

Leanne`s husband, you just heard him. He`s speaking to us exclusively tonight. Says she only took her wallet when she left the house, not her cell phone.

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J. BEARDEN: She had, at most, $60 cash. And she had her -- she had her wallet. So she had her credit cards in there, which I have checked.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, according to cops, there`s been no credit card activity on any of her cards. They did confirm that Leanne, in fact, left the house. Police say landscapers talked to them and said yes, they saw Leanne walking north from her in-laws` home.

Now, she`s extremely petite. She weighs just 100 pounds and is 5`2". So she`s in great shape. She could be easily overpowered.

Jon Leiberman, here`s what I don`t get. How is it possible that police are saying they`re calling off the search tonight because they don`t have any evidence that a crime`s been committed. Are you kidding me? This is a petite young woman who, what do you think, she walks out into the sunset with no possessions and no cell phone, just for no reason and that`s not suspicious?

JON LEIBERMAN, HLN CONTRIBUTOR: Look, this is a young woman who also ran marathons. That`s what kind of shape she was in. When she left the house, we`ve learned, she had on hiking boots.

So right now, Jane, there are two parallel investigations. One investigation into the scenario that, did she try and go hiking, and perhaps fell, or got bitten by some sort of animal? And I will say she was not familiar with the terrain around this area, because this was her in- laws` home. That`s one possibility.

And in fact, Texas EquuSearch has offered drones to go up and actually survey all the land around there, because there are these little caves and little cavities where she could have fallen. And that`s one investigation.

The other parallel investigation, as you mentioned, even though the searchers have been called off actively, they are following up leads. They`re looking at 41 sex offenders in that area, in this county. They`re looking at the unsolved case that you mentioned of the hiker. So there are two parallel investigations. Don`t read too much into the fact that they`re not actively searching. They`re putting those resources elsewhere.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, let`s take a look at this possible -- we don`t know -- but there`s possibly -- we can look at it, a connection between Leanne`s disappearance and this other terrifying case. Cops say another jogger was attacked near where Leanne vanished. You can see on the map -- and we`re going to show you -- the location is only 30 miles apart.

Now, according to the woman who was attacked, her attacker was wearing a ski mask and had a spider tattoo on his neck. Now Leanne disappeared on the afternoon, is my understanding, of Friday, January 17. So two Fridays ago. The female jogger was attacked by the man in the ski mask 10 p.m. that same night, 30 miles away. That woman was able to fight him off.

But Joe Gomez, reporter, KRLD in Dallas, what do you make? Is that just a bizarre and terrifying coincidence, or could there be somebody who is on the loose there preying on women?

JOE GOMEZ, REPORTER, KRLD, DALLAS: Yes, we`ve always heard there`s no such thing as coincidences, right, Jane? This was a brazen attack by this individual to assault this woman in the middle of the night, while she`s jogging out there. I mean, a lot of joggers go out there. It`s decent weather out there in San Antonio this time of year. And that he would just attack this woman, with the possibility of getting caught, is very brazen.

Now, what`s also frightening, Jane, is that earlier this month, another woman was stabbed to death at a park in the San Antonio area, as well. She was discovered stabbed to death. Her attacker has never been found. So it`s...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: My understanding was -- my understanding was that there was an arrest in that case. And we`re going to have to try to clarify that. We`re going to clarify that during the break. Because there`s a lot of information coming out.

There was an attack on New Year`s Eve where a young woman was attacked and my understanding is killed, tragically. But my understanding is that that attacker has been caught, or at least the suspect in this case has been caught.

But if not, you`re possibly right. There could be three women now at risk of one dead, one missing, one who fought off her attacker. You know, this is a war on women that we`re talking about here. Women in America should not have to feel terrified of going for a hike or going for a jog. And it`s a sad state of affairs when that is the reality. That when women are jogging in an area, there`s warnings: oh, be careful, be careful.

We have a great surveillance technology. Often used for all the wrong reasons. We should have surveillance technology to protect women in America, so that we, more than half the population -- taxpayers, mothers, daughters, wives, sisters -- can go out without fearing for our lives.

Garth in New York, Garth, New York, what do you have to say?

CALLER: I have one thing to say, Jane. Because I don`t have a problem with the law enforcement camera system. Because there`s so many people been disappearing, and when they`re ready to use the cameras for the right reasons, they`ll find it. What happened to the camera when our children and our sisters and our brothers are disappearing and they don`t find them. What`s going on with the camera system? And what is...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You`re absolutely right. There are -- there is incredible surveillance technology, extremely cheap right now, that we could put on every street in America. You know, they could catch you when you cross a red light. I`ve been caught driving and gone through that red light, boom, that camera has me. So it`s not a question of privacy, because they`ve got the cameras out there. But they should have cameras out there to save lives.

If you`re in a national park, or a local park, put cameras out there, so that people can see who`s going in and out, and we can catch predators.

We`re just getting started. We`ve got new information coming in. We`re clarifying the issue of whether or not a suspect has been caught in the New Year`s Eve case.

And again, we`re on exclusively with Josh Bearden, who is searching for his wife. They went around the world for two years. Then she gets back to Texas and goes missing while taking a walk. What do you think? Stay right there.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have to be doing something. We just -- the waiting is the worst part of this. The waiting and not knowing.

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LEANNE BEARDEN, MISSING WOMAN: How about little kisses?

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: That is the woman who is missing tonight. We`re trying to find her. With her husband in Athens, Greece.

Leanne and her husband just got back from fulfilling a lifelong dream traveling the world. They visited 56 countries in 22 months. And then, in a tragic irony, back visiting the in-laws, Josh`s parents, this beautiful young woman, petite, goes out for a walk on the 17th, Friday the 17th, two Fridays ago, never returns.

And we found out there was an arrest in the New Year`s Eve case. So we`re talking about her disappearance on the same day as a woman is attacked by a man in a ski mask.

Josh, I want to go back to you. I ask this not to embarrass you. But have you been able to look at her cell phone and see, did she have communications with anyone? Is it possible that she met somebody during her travels, and wanted to hook up with that person? Was she upset about anything? Were there money troubles? You know, anything?

J. BEARDEN: No, there`s nothing that I can figure out. And as far as if she hooked up with somebody, or something like that, we were together 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 22 months. I`m pretty sure that I would have known if anything like that was going on. So I don`t mean to chuckle at it, but it`s just -- it`s not possible.

Can you ask the other part of the question? I forgot, sorry.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I said, did you have a chance to look at her cell phone and see if there were any communications? I mean, it may not be something that is -- there might be something that she texted like, "Hey, I`ll stop by the bank," or "I`ll meet you at the coffee shop," or whatever, to a friend that would give an indication of where she was going.

J. BEARDEN: Yes, we turned over my cell phone, or our cell phone over to the police. And they had it for about a day. And then we hired a private investigator today, and he went over the phone records with us. So we`ve gone over every single phone number that`s been called and received. And have checked all of those. So there was nothing unusual that`s on there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Nothing they can use at all.

Well, let me go to Evangeline Gomez, criminal defense attorney. You`ve handled so many of these cases. What do you make of this?

EVANGELINE GOMEZ, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: This is a very sad, tragic case. This is a Katherine Middleton look-alike.

In this situation, I think you`d want to hire various private investigators and actually investigate the theories they come up with. You don`t want to put all your eggs in one basket. You want to make sure that every stone has been unturned, that nothing has been left out of this search.

Also, competing search teams would be something that I would advise hiring, that could work with and independently of the local police department.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, he did hire a private investigator.

E. GOMEZ: One.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. One. Well, OK, it`s a start. Dr. Tiffanie Davis-Henry, this is a surreal nightmare for this family.

TIFFANIE DAVIS HENRY: It is.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What are your thoughts?

HENRY: Well, it`s really tragic. It`s kind of unthinkable that -- you know, I`m someone who goes out when I go running, and oftentimes, I go running by myself in national parks. You don`t think that something like this could happen. But this is certainly a wakeup call, Jane, that this can -- this is a very real possibility.

I don`t think this woman just seemingly vanished in thin air. I think that there is someone out there that knows something about this case. And I would ask, plead with Josh -- and I know he`s doing it -- to keep praying, keep being strong. You and your family, you have the love and support of an entire nation that wants to see Leanne found. So keep making noise. Keep doing everything that you have to do. Keep searching. Don`t let this die, because she is out there somewhere. And someone knows something about what happened to her.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And we`re going to stay on top of this. I hope that surveillance video of the nearest stores, even if they`re a walk, a long walk, check to see if anybody got gas in the neighborhood, any kind of vehicle going through. We have to find this young woman.

This is wrong, that in America, we women have to fear going for a hike or a jog, that we`re putting our lives in our hands. It`s wrong. It`s got to stop.

Later, superstar, hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons is joining me tonight, live. He has a message for the world. And he wants to deliver it on this show. We`re going to talk to him in an exclusive in just a little while. Stay right there, and hear what he has to say. It`s important.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The dismembered remains of a white female believed to be a missing woman.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... killed Ackerson, dismembered her body, packed the remains in coolers, and then drove them to Texas in a U-Haul.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: First-degree murder, if convicted, the maximum punishment is life without parole or the death penalty.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The decedent`s estranged boyfriend...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Grant Hayes and his wife are monsters.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, a woman on trial helping her musician husband viciously murder his ex-girlfriend. The prosecution says this woman, Amanda Hayes, helped her husband kill his ex-girlfriend, the mother of his two young children, and then dispose of her body.

Now, the husband admits he was in a fierce custody battle with the ex- girlfriend. And he also admits that he chopped up her body with a power saw after drinking half a bottle of vodka. But he insists, no, it was his wife who actually killed her first. The wife denies that.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a case about the killing of a human being, and the barbarity and brutality that Amanda Hayes and Grant Hayes exerted on her body such that she disappeared off the face of the earth for 11 days.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Grant Hayes is the classic sociopath. Amanda had absolutely nothing to do with it. He concealed everything that he did.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: This is the victim, 27-year-old Laura Ackerson. What a beautiful young woman.

The father is accused -- the father of her children is accused of killing her. Prosecutors say he dismembered her body and then stuffed it into coolers.

And then this lovely couple, Amanda and Grant Hayes, Mr. and Mrs. Hayes, drove all the way from North Carolina to Texas with coolers filled with body parts, where they dumped her remains in a creek by a relative`s house.

Now, the husband has already been convicted of first-degree murder. This guy. He is serving a life sentence. But he`s appealing, claiming his wife is the real killer.

Well, now his wife is on trial and argues, no, he`s the one who did it all. The husband claims his only crime is about his bad judgment, when after drinking half a bottle of vodka, he decided to cut up his dead ex- girlfriend`s body with a power saw.

The wife counters she was clueless. She had no idea she was riding around with a cut-up body in coolers until they got to Texas, where she claims her husband then threatened her with a machete.

Oh, my gosh. Straight out to the Lion`s Den. Joe Gomez, this is a he said/she said, but it`s basically a convicted killer and his wife, an accused killer, each pointing the finger at each other.

J. GOMEZ: Yes. It`s pretty crazy, isn`t it, Jane? I don`t understand how somebody can drive cross-country with body parts in a cooler and not realize they were in there. But that apparently is what Amanda Hayes is saying.

Her defense attorney maintains that it was her husband that did the killing. And that they drove all the way across the country to Richmond, Texas, where they dumped Laura Ackerson`s dismembered remains in a Texas creek.

Now, her husband, of course, pointing the finger back at Amanda, saying that she and Laura got into some sort of argument over custody of children, that Laura pulled Amanda`s hair and that Amanda struck her in the neck and then he had to clean up Amanda`s mess, drink half a liter of vodka and cut her up with a power saw.

The whole story is so bizarre. And to make -- to make anything out of it, I honestly don`t know who to believe in this case. But it seems to me like they both had something to do with it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And both the victim and the defendant, a beautiful woman -- in fact, the defendant is an actress, and she was in that -- she played an extra, but she was technically in "The Stepford Wives" movie.

Today, the defense said convicted killer Grant Hayes was actually looking for a Stepford wife. You know, we`re talking about that movie where robotic women happily do whatever their husbands ask. You remember.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... that he wanted to marry a Stepford wife.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Welcome to Stepford.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stepford is the family paradise. It has no crime, no poverty and no pushing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Good morning, ladies.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You work out dressed like this?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Of course. We always want to look our very best.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Amanda had been an extra in the movie "The Stepford Wives."

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Unbelievable. The defense says the defendant`s husband wanted somebody he could control.

So Jon Leiberman, HLN contributor, this seems like a bizarre thing to bring up in the defense opening statement, are they kind of implying that, well, in case the prosecution corners her and proves that, oh, yes, she must have known that there were body parts in the cooler, that she could say, "Well, I was just a Stepford wife under my killer husband`s control"?

LEIBERMAN: Absolutely. That is really a key to their defense. They`re not saying she absolutely had nothing to do with it. What they`re saying is, if indeed she had something to do with it, well, it was because her husband compelled her to do that. That is a key part of her defense.

What`s going to be extremely interesting in this case, Jane, is this. If Grant Hayes takes the stand, it will be interesting to see which side calls him, the prosecution or the defense. And if he sticks to his story which actually has evolved into the fact that his wife killed Ackerson but did it for self-defense reasons.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oy, vey. Evangeline Gomez, when you look at somebody who`s capable of cutting up body parts, which he has admitted. He said, "OH, my only -- the only thing I did wrong was I chopped her up after drinking half a bottle of vodka." But what does that say about a person, that they`re capable of doing that?

E. GOMEZ: Jane, make no mistake: This man has zero credibility. A court found him guilty in less than two hours. The defense surely is not going to call him unless they want their defense in their case to flounder.

I can`t imagine the prosecution is going to call him. He seems to be all over the place. Given the statements that have been made, that there was potentially domestic violence on his part, she doesn`t feel comfortable being in the courtroom with him. Remember, this case originally, they were both supposed to be tried at the same time. He allegedly made threats to her, prior to the arrest and wrote a letter while he was in jail, threatening to kill her. So they`re now -- they now have separate trials.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I have to jump in. Dr. Tiff, we only have a couple of seconds. But when a person is capable of chopping somebody up, put the body in coolers, also going to a big box store, buying a power saw, what does that say?

HENRY: That says that -- that says that they`re sociopathic; they`re psychopathic; they`re deranged. They will do anything to cover up their mess.

I actually don`t -- I kind of buy his story, that perhaps -- I`ve never made a good decision if I drank a whole liter of vodka. And I`m pretty sure he didn`t make very good decisions either. I don`t know how much he had to do with it, but I think it`s interesting that she didn`t roll over on him first, that she didn`t tell everyone, "You know what? He made me do this" before.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Water finds its own level, if you know what I mean. Wow.

Listen, Justin Bieber, that story is getting crazier and crazier. You won`t believe where he is now. And you won`t believe what his famous friends are doing to try to throw some sense into him. Next.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s in desperate need of guidance.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does he need six months of rehab? Probably not. But I do think he needs someone with a little adult supervision to say, "Hey, you know what? It`s time to grow up."

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s crazy. It`s crazy. Go Amanda -- what are you doing?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Justin`s going to get -- oh, my God, he`s going to get crushed --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He needs a wakeup call.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my god. Justin just got pulled over.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Justin got pulled over. Justin got pulled over.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Biebs is busted.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, after a wild week of alleged booze, drag racing, leading to his arrest, Justin Bieber escapes the insane mob frenzied scene in Miami and he flees way south of the border to Panama.

But the paparazzi followed him right there. And this is what they captured. The 19-year-old soaking up the sun, strolling along the beach with, guess who, yes, Chantel Jeffries. You`ll see the young woman in a second -- there she is, wearing very little. She is the same young woman who was riding shotgun in Bieber`s Lamborghini when he was busted for DUI, resisting arrest and driving on an expired license.

Tonight, hot on Bieber`s heels, his longtime superstar mentor, the singer Usher. Here`s Usher in Panama, posing with the same fan as the Biebster. TMZ says the superstar flew in with Bieber`s manager, the guy who discovered him. His name is Scooter Braun. And they`re all getting together for a reported emergency intervention on the 19-year-old superstar, who makes $58 million a year, by the way.

Can Usher and Scooter talk sense into this teen idol before something really, really, really bad happens?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s just a vulnerable kid trying to figure it out. And he makes mistakes. He acknowledges those mistakes. And he`s just trying to figure it out like any other 19-year-old except he`s in an extraordinary position.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s got broad shoulders. He said to me that it`s not easy. I literally think he`s trying to figure out who he is in front of the whole world like "The Truman Show". I don`t expect him to be perfect. I expect that when he falls, I`ve got to be there to help him get up.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: New surveillance video shows the exact moment Miami cops surround Bieber driving in the now infamous yellow Lamborghini. Brand-new GPS evidence claims Bieber was not, in fact, drag racing double the speed limit.

So tonight, some are asking, was he framed? Because it doesn`t look like he`s going that fast. But it`s hard to tell. It doesn`t look like -- it`s not like something out of "The Fast and the Furious".

Straight out to RadarOnline`s Jen Heger -- what`s the latest from the Bieber camp in Panama?

JEN HEGER, RADARONLINE: So, what we know is that Justin Bieber is still in Panama with Scooter Braun, Usher; and his mother is down in Panama with him. They have been unable to talk any sense into him, into coming home and to going to rehab.

RadarOnline.com has been told that he`s still resisting those efforts. However, they are making some headway with Justin. Radar reported earlier today that Lil Za who had been living at Justin`s house has been asked to leave, and left Justin`s house. Of course, Lil Za was arrested when the sheriff`s department executed their search warrant and busted him for felony possession of drugs.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, well I don`t know how that helps Justin because Justin`s in Panama. He`s not at his house in Calabasas, California.

But hold on one second because I want to get back to you. With all this recent alleged bad boy behavior, you know, you kind of almost forget, Bieber`s a music superstar.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And he`s very talented. But guess what, tonight some radio stations in his native Canada, and some in the U.S. reportedly say they`re done playing Justin`s music until he cleans up his act -- act. That too, right?

Straight out to Canadian radio deejay Jeff Mauler -- bleep me, please -- from 89.9 FM in Ottawa. Why did you ban the Biebster`s music?

JEFF MAULER, CANADIAN RADIO DEEJAY: Well, I think your report just said it all. He`s such a bad guy. And he makes good music. He needs to get back in the studio. I know our fans here at the radio station, they want to hear some new music. They wanted to concentrate on that and less of the drag racing and drinking, you know?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, ok. But do you feel that that`s going to get to him? What, the pride of Canada, because he`s from Canada? Even though he lives in Los Angeles? Yes, go ahead.

MAULER: No, I -- well, I think some of the people that have reached out to us, other stations around the world. I was just talking to somebody in the Netherlands and they`re going to talk to their radio stations about pulling some of his music, too.

If you hit these guys in their wallet, then they might -- it might be a wakeup call to them. Yes, he`s worth $50 million, $60 million a year, but when that starts dwindling, he`s got to go, oh, my God, I`m losing my bread and butter which is the music. We need radio stations to play the music.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That`s true, Adi Jaffee -- co-founder of Alternatives Addiction Treatment in Beverly Hills. Do you think it will get to him if indeed he admitted reportedly to the cops, he was smoking pot, drinking and taking prescription meds, if indeed he has a substance abuse problem, will a ban on his music do the trick?

ADI JAFFEE, CO-FOUNDER, ALTERNATIVES ADDICTION TREATMENT: No offense to Jeff, I don`t know how big the readership is in terms of -- the listenership in terms of selling Bieber records. But I think you hit on something that`s important that is sort of being neglected here, which is, you know, his alcohol level is not that high but this idea of mixing weed with prescription drugs, with alcohol, all in one and driving a car, you know, that scene you showed earlier was from after the police was already chasing him. So we don`t really know how fast he was going beforehand.

I think there`s a reason to start being worried that he`s losing control over the drugs. Whereas maybe before he had a much better handle on it and it`s starting to slip from him. I`m hoping that the people close to him can actually get to him.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And you know, one thing is, and I say this as a recovering alcoholic with 18 years of sobriety, he`s 19. It`s hard to say, I`m never going to drink again when you`re 19. People do it.

JAFFE: It is.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`ve met people who have done it. But it`s a lot harder when you`ve had your partying and you could say, I`ve been there, done that, a thousand times, as I have the dubious honor of being able to say.

Brand new surveillance video shows moments before Bieber was pulled over -- look at this. Cops say the pop star and Crazy Khalil were driving almost double the 30-mile-an-hour speed limit. But now the owner of the exotic car company Bieber rented from says the Biebs was only going about 30 miles an hour, because they`ve got a GPS tracking system that proves it.

So -- want to go back to Jen Heger, what do you know about this?

HEGER: Well, I think it`s very curious if this GPS device is on this Lamborghini. And of course, you know, this car was driven by Justin. So I think anything coming out of Justin`s camp right now is going to be favorable.

There`s no way that this GPS device would be admissible in a court of law. Because we don`t know -- we don`t have a chain of evidence command on it. Who could have tampered with it?

I think what everybody is overlooking at well, and one of your guests referred to it, is that he did admit to drinking alcohol and taking marijuana and Xanax. Florida has a zero tolerance law for anyone under the age of 21 -- another point.

You know, I understand that the radio stations in Canada are not going to be playing his music, but Justin`s talked about retiring from music. His camp came out and said, oh, no, that`s a joke. But you really have to wonder if he`s serious about that. If that was really maybe a cry for help and he`s had enough of living in the media spotlight at such a young age.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know, Jen, you make a good point. It`s fun for the first, maybe five months. Then it becomes a bit of a nightmare. I mean, who amongst us would want every time we turn around, a thousand paparazzi taking pictures of us from every angle.

By the way, just to compare whether this is drag racing or not, let`s check out a clip from "The Fast and the Furious".

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: That`s drag racing.

On the other side, I`m going to talk, right now, live exclusively to rap legend hip-hop mogul, Russell Simmons -- one of my heroes. We`re going to tell you why he is upset and he has a message for you and the world.

Stay right there.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We need to realize these are beings that suffer the same as we suffer.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Approximately 40 to 45 were brutally slaughtered and another six taken captive.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Many of these dolphins in the cove are committing suicide when they see what`s going to happen to them.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, right here, right now, superstar hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons joins me live, to speak to the world, to weigh in on the dolphin genocide in Japan. He has a message for the world.

Last week, approximately 70 dolphins were murdered in the infamous cove in Taiji, Japan. Sea Shepherd, the amazing activist group claims that an astounding 600 dolphins have been killed there since last fall. Video shows these hyperventilating terrified mammals, who have brains bigger than ours, being brutalized, captured, killed. Among the dolphins captured last week was a beautiful rare albino baby dolphin the world has named Angel.

Russell Simmons wants to talk about Angel being ripped away from her mother and her natural habitat and sold into captivity. The shocking cruelty of Japan`s dolphin hunt, exposed in the Oscar-winning documentary "The Cove" from Lionsgate Films.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are totally freaked out, stressed out to the max.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got it. We got it.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: National star Hayden Panettiere sobbing uncontrollably, so horrified by what she saw.

And now on our show tonight, superstar, founder of the music label Def Jam, American business mogul, Russell Simmons -- and my hero. Russell, speak to us. Tell us what you feel in your message.

RUSSELL SIMMONS, FOUNDER, DEF JAM: Well, the message is simple. This kind of suffering should not be tolerated. That when they said dominion over the animals, they did not mean this kind of abuse. These amusement parks should be stopped. Obviously the meat is poisonous. The dolphins don`t deserve -- for whatever reason they kill these dolphins, it`s wrong.

And I think that if we have a heart, you know, no individual could participate, very few individuals could participate in this kind of torture. And then eat or profit from this kind of work. Those who are doing it should be stopped.

And we should spread the word around the world, that anybody who has a voice, and I have a voice, I`m able to be on CNN, should use it. That`s why I stand up for those dolphins and animal abuse all over the world.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, you speak of animal abuse all over the world. Americans have been in an uproar about the Japanese dolphin hunt. We`ve been covering it every day in our show.

Now, the Japanese fishermen, they`re fighting back and saying, "Hey, you Americans are hypocrites." And they point to about 9 billion animals killed in factory farms in American soil every year. These are pigs kept in gestation crates never able to turn around -- cows and chickens -- abused, slaughtered. What do you say to those fishermen who say, "Hey, you`re hypocrites, you point the fingers at us, but you do horrible things to larger numbers of animals?"

SIMMONS: I think the abuse of animals, wherever it is, should be stopped immediately. I know it`s a long struggle, but when we find compassion to fight for one species, then we learn through that experience, that we should be doing it for all species.

I`ve been a vegan 15 years. I don`t feel sick. I`m 56 years old. Some people say I look younger than I did before I became a vegan. And I feel good. I`m in good shape.

I don`t need to participate in this kind of abuse. It only gives you -- look at it this way, there are 40 billion animals born into suffering every single year, made to be born into the kind of suffering that you just showed on your screen. Through sexual abuse, and through all kinds of abuse, they`re brought to your plate. They cause sickness, cancer, all kinds of sickness, including cancer for the individuals who eat them.

The cows alone are the greatest cause of global warming. Two times more than all the trains, planes and automobiles, just the gas that comes from those cows that we make -- and I say we make, they`re not born naturally -- the environment suffers. The water, the amount of grain, the amount of oil -- our natural resources suffer. And it`s the worst climate disaster in the history of the world.

So when people mount a protest against this kind of abusive behavior, this kind of torture, then I want to stand up. I don`t discount the statement that Americans are hypocritical, when they call for the stop of one abuse, and continue to participate in all kinds of abuses. It`s all wrong.

But today we`re talking about Taiji and this abuse and we should stop it. And the world should unite to stop it. And again, one thing leads to another. People are unconscious to the suffering that they cause. None of them could cause them as individuals. Most of us couldn`t do the things that we stand by and take advantage of, or participate in indirectly. When you follow your fur coat back to the animal that it came from, you can`t wear the coat. So that`s my answer to your question.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Words of wisdom. And I couldn`t agree with you more.

On the other side, we`re going to talk more to Russell.

And we`re also going to tell you how you can help save these poor defenseless dolphins. Go to sea shepherd.org. You can volunteer, you can contact the prime minister of Japan, Shinzo Abe and tell him, this is not how you want Japan to be remembered.

More on the other side.

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MELISSA SEHGAL, SEA SHEPHERD: This is a never-ending process. This happens almost daily, these boats go out at sunrise and find pods almost every day. The dolphins that are released are often injured. They`re separated from their families. We often find several washed along the shore that just didn`t make it.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: U.S. Ambassador to Japan, Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of the late John F. Kennedy, has spoken out, tweeted about the inhumanness of this slaughter. Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon who is Japanese, she has spoken out against it.

And now we`re speaking exclusively to Russell Simmons, a hip-hop legend impresario who is lending his voice. Russell, my understanding from Sea Shepherd is the Japanese people are being really kept in the dark about the horrors of this. And they only started finding out about it when Caroline Kennedy tweeted and then the Japanese press responded. By the way, all that red is blood in the cove.

SIMMONS: Yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: How can we get the message to the prime minister? How can we -- we`re complaining here, but how can they get the message that this is a black eye for Japan?

SIMMONS: Well, there`s lots of ways. I mean I think one of the things Caroline Kennedy can do is deliver a message to President Obama. I know that there`s a negotiation of some sort, a bill, a partnership that`s being formed and America could ask for him to include in the bill some kind of a shift in their policy regarding those dolphins.

See, but this is the problem is the captivity. The reason they`re being slaughtered in record numbers is because you have these amusement parks, SeaWorld in particular, that really pay extreme amounts of money for these dolphins, and, therefore, you have these big cove-like experiences where they take whole families into the cove and slaughter 90 or 95 percent of them while 5 percent are sold for such high numbers.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Russell -- And I`m sorry to interrupt, but we`re almost out of time.

SIMMONS: That`s ok.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And I have to say that we don`t have any knowledge that any of these are going specifically to SeaWorld whatsoever, so I just want to make that clear for legal reasons. We don`t know that. But I understand your point. In other words, it`s the people who go to the amusement parks.

SIMMONS: Well, amusement parks like SeaWorld -- like SeaWorld.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Russell, I want to thank you for coming on. We`re out of time, sadly, but I really appreciate it.

SIMMONS: Seashepherd.com -- .org. Seashepherd.org.

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